1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your hosts 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: This is rutfresh Radio. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: I'm your host, Casey Smith, and the second rut is near. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: It may be a fable or it may be real, 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: but it would seem that hunters around the country are 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: relying on a second cycle of dose and good weather 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: to bring the deer in. 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: This is Retfresh, Let's go. This is rutfresh Radio. I'm 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: your host, Tyler Jones, and I am sitting here in 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: a truck with case See Smith. This podcast is brought 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: to you by First Light. Casey, we are kind of 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: in a weird long stretch back and forth from lease 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 4: to hotel Airbnb. You know, are are staying place Yea 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: and Man's. It's late in the season, you're tired. It 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: gets kind of hard to make these thirty to forty 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: minute trips back and forth. But we are still after it. 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: We're still having fun, We're still deer hunting. You just 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: get in that car and get kind of warm and toasty, 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 4: and you see I get heavy. 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: You know, that's why I leave my little dial on 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: sixty six. You know, it kind of keeps me a 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: little cooler that way. I'm not quite as sleepy, I 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: don't think, but maybe I am. I'm not sure. It's 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: it's kind of weird. We are hunting with a big 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: camp this week. We got we got some buddies in 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: to do some hunting. We'll talk about that here a 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: little bit, but it's seven guys is what we have 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: right now, between our crew and the friends that are here. 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: And to how seven guys you. 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: Can either pay a lot of money for quite a 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: few motel rooms or you can get a cabin, and 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: that's what we did. But places that hold seven guys 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: aren't always right next to where you're hunting. And that's 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: a good thing, right because you kind of like to 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: hunt remote places. And uh so it's making us drive 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: a whole lot. Yeah, we are driving past a lot. 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Of interesting things to look at. 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 5: I just saw them two sable by the way. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: Did you see some tables? See them? 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: We've seen elam though, we've seen Ibex, We've seen cimeter 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: horn ORX. 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: We've seen gimms, buck, I've seen elk, did. 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: You say, I, yes, I've seen horses. Yeah, it's true, 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: seen ub Delas, army Dellas. I saw big white tails. 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: I saw big one this morning, did you I did big? 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: I saw the one we've been seeing. It's pretty nice. 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: And then I saw big like kind of looked like 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: a mainframe a but had a little knife on one side. 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: Kind of white horn's kind of had that high fence look, 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: did he? I mean just the white horn. 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes, just for clarification, we are not hunting a high 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: fence place now, do opposite. Actually, I kind of wish 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: there's at least a little bit of fence around it. 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: That way, maybe some people wouldn't be on there when 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: we're not there. But this you're hearing there, I. 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Mean, we're actually hunting an area that I hunted with 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: my dad probably nearly twenty years ago. And surprisingly there's 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: a lot more high fences out here than there used 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: to be. There wasn't any high fenses out here when 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: we used to on out here, but yeah, there is 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: now quite a few. I guess not quite a few, 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: but I mean I think I've seen three or so maybe, 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: and you know, kind of kind of different. Man, it's different. 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: It's cool, you know, it's cool to see those animals 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But I was thinking about this 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: this morning and as I was passing by those high fences, 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: and I was like, man, you know, one reason I 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: wouldn't want to high fence, like all things kind of 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: just level of play and field and whatever. Like, one 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: reason I wouldn't want to high fence my property is 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: because I think it is cool to have a deer 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: show up in the rut and have the opportunity at 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: least have a deer show up in the rut that 78 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: that isn't on your property, right, I don't really want Like, 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: we've been seeing the same buck several times on this 80 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: trip in the same high fens spot. He's got like 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: a one acre little spot yeah there, and it's kind 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 4: of weird. It's like, well, you know, that's that's gonna 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: be what his spot is. And you're gonna like and 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: on a hyphen's place, especially out here where it's kind 85 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: of opened and there's like, you know, I guess smaller tracks. 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: When I'm saying that, I mean like two three thousand 87 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 4: acres like you're gonna know what deer on that place. Yeah, 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: And it's kind of like if you don't have a 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: deer that excites you, you may not be super excited 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: to hunt that year, right, Whereas like there's always a 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: chance if you're on a creek system somewhere or like, 92 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: you know, whatever you might be on like even my property, 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: you know, my personal probably at the house. I hadn't 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: seen any deer or that all year, but like there's 95 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: still a chance, right that in December something ends up 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: just eating corn, you know, on my property or whatever. 97 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 6: You know. 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: We got a place near the river where we're it's 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: a pretty small acreage comparatively to what's out here, but 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: it's it's all right. It's got a couple spots, it's 101 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: got some food on it, We got some feeders, and 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: it's got a wheat field as well. 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: And man, it's uh, we might have had a little 104 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: success in camp last night. I won't tell you too. 105 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: Much about it because that's gonna come out on video 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: next year. But that deer, I'm pretty sure we don't have. 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: If we have pictures of him, we don't have many. 108 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: And so it's it's that exact thing you're talking about 109 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: where that buck. 110 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: Showed up. Yep, you know, and we were able to 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: capitalize on them. We have friends in camp. One of 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: them is named Leay McClendon. He might know him as 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: Lay McNasty. 114 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: He's the guy who makes real funny Instagram videos about 115 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: like teaching and stuff like that. 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 5: And it's like, why are you. 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: Up you know that kind of stuff or or I 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: don't even literally don't even care, so that's late. And 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: then we got JP Frantz, who is a Houston astro 120 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: picture you might have seen him in. 121 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Some of the playoff baseball stuff. 122 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: JP st for Jordan Peterson. Yeah, Georgy Peterson France. 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: We've got Jordan Peterson in camp. That's what it stood for, 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: the mustache Man. 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: And they've been hunting hard man and getting African, having 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: a lot of good deer encounters. And if you want 127 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: to hear more about that, you can tune into the 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: Element podcast. We'll have a lot of coverage about that. 129 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: But today we have got some guys from around the 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: contrary to give us some Rut fresh reports. I know 131 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: it seems late in the year for the Rut and 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: it is, and to be honest, I'm sure, there's a 133 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: lot of y'all that are like, Man, the rut is over, 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: and it might be for you, But there's a lot 135 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: of the country still that has the rut yet to happen. 136 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: And then there are parts of the country like where 137 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: we're at, where the rut is just kind of winding up. 138 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: And then there's still places even further north potentially that 139 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: they are experiencing a second rut. And I've seen a 140 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: lot about that on social people have been talking about that, 141 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: and it was even mentioned some in our interviews this week. 142 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: So, Tyler, who do we have this week on a 143 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: rough Fresh Radio. 144 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: We've got a guy named Brandon Miller who is with 145 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: the Everyday outdoors Man. He's up in Pennsylvania, had some 146 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: success recently. It's so interesting to me that sometimes people 147 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: will shoot bucks this time of year up in the 148 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: North and they'll just straight up just losing Antler. They'll 149 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: just shet them off as they're running away crazy Like 150 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: around here, they're doing some much different higher testosterone things 151 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: right now, you know, which I guess is how we 152 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: roll in Texas. Nate Creek from identical draw. He's been 153 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: in Kansas quite a bit. They got a little bit 154 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: of land there, and they've been doing some popk land 155 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: hunting too, just kind of depends on what they got 156 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: on their property. I think Mark OLiS he's out in 157 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: the great state of Alabama, actually, the very crazy rut 158 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: state of Alabama. Yes, and he's going to tell us 159 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: a little bit about what trail cameras have done. He's 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: with Moultrie and what trail cameras have done for him 161 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: and his you know, opportunities at understanding the rut right 162 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: in in that crazy state and figuring that out. And 163 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: then we've got our very own Jp Frantz, the Element's 164 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: very own. 165 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 166 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he wants to be right, that's right. He 167 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: wants to be a part of the Element. We're not 168 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: gonna let him in just yet. He's gotta he's got 169 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: to prove some things first, you know. He he ain't 170 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: got the you know, he just he's got he's got 171 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: to figure out, you know, how to how to win 172 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: that World Series I think, first. 173 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: But he'll he'll do it. He'll do it anyway. 174 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: JP's out here in Texas, so obviously he's got a 175 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: Texas report for you this week, and I'm pretty excited 176 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: about all of it. 177 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 5: So let's get to the interviews. 178 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: This is Brandon Miller with the every Day Outdoorsman, and 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: apparently I've seen a picture that leads me to believe 180 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: that he's a buckslam full in Pennsylvania. 181 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: What's up, dude? 182 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: Not too much, not too much at all. Just got 183 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: back from the cabin yesterday. 184 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 7: It's later, real nice Pa mountain buck on Friday after 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 7: still hunting seven and a half miles. 186 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. So how far does that put you 187 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: away from like the truck or whatever? If you're going 188 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: seven and a half miles. 189 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 8: I was two and a half. 190 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 7: Miles from the from the car then, so we had 191 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 7: to pack them out. 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: Oh okay, just two and a half ain't no big deal, right? 193 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: I complained all week about being two and a half 194 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: miles from the truck earlier in Oklahoma. 195 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: That's awesome, dude, So are you? First off, congratulations on 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: the knis buck is really cool. You have one of 197 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: the coolest orange jackets I've ever seen. Apparently you shot 198 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: that deer gun hunting right? 199 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 9: Correct? 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 201 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: And so does the gun season in PA make it 202 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: more difficult less difficult to find bucks or how does 203 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: that interaction work? 204 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 7: Sometimes it can be a little bit difficult. Especially the 205 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 7: big woods are bear season actually the week before deer season, so. 206 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 8: A lot of guys are in the woods doing bear drives. 207 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 7: And it seems to push these deer deeper and deeper, 208 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 7: which can make it tough. But we work for them 209 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 7: and we try and get on them. 210 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: That's cool, dude, apparently y'all. 211 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: Y'all, so you have like a team of dude through 212 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of buddies that kind of all work together 213 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: to kind of find the hot spots of deer. 214 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit. 215 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 7: It's more or less just a couple of guys, but 216 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 7: we kind of still hunt by ourselves and just try 217 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 7: and find them alone, and then if we get on 218 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 7: a bunch of them, we'll kind of collaborate and try 219 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 7: and get on them together. 220 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: I got you. 221 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: So you said you were still hunting. Is that kind 222 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: of the thing to do this time of year. 223 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, for gun hunting, it's what I typically like to do. 224 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 7: Sometimes I'll do a little bit of stand hunting, but 225 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 7: especially with the snow that we had, it was more 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 7: still hunting, just trying to find them. 227 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 4: So if the deer being pushed back farther, is that 228 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: helpful for a guy who's willing to put in seven 229 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 4: and a half miles in a day. 230 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean, if we can, if we can know 231 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 7: and see the topography that we need to get to, 232 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 7: just looking on maps and trying to find where these 233 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 7: deer are going to be hiding out, it really helps us. 234 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 8: And we're away from that pressure. We don't see anybody else. 235 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 8: And these deer, yes. 236 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 7: They've been pressured there, but they've been there for that 237 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 7: entire rifle season most likely, so they're kind of or 238 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 7: unpressured in those deep areas. 239 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, So what are you looking for on the 240 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: maps that helps you to find those deers? Those deer 241 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: this time of year. 242 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 7: Leeward sides, and if the leeward side just happens to 243 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 7: be on a southern side where we have like a 244 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 7: north northwest wind, those deer in those in that southern 245 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 7: exposure just trying to stay warm in that sun. And 246 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 7: if we can find some thick laurel and that's actually 247 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 7: where I shot my buck in thick laurel on the 248 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 7: leeward side, So that's kind of what we're looking for. 249 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 9: That's cool. 250 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: So are you seeing any running activity at all right now? 251 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 8: Or is that all long past, and actually that's a 252 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 8: great point. 253 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 7: So when I was still hunting, I caught three different 254 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 7: sets of tracks with blood in them from a dough 255 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 7: that was in heat, and I had a whole bunch 256 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 7: of scrapes opened up in rubs as I was still 257 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 7: hunting as well, and I actually saw the buck and 258 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 7: I couldn't get the shot at that buck, but then 259 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 7: I killed another one. So yeah, we're still seeing some 260 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 7: rud activity. It's not as much, obviously, but it's still happening. 261 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: About dude, sounds kind of bucky. 262 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 5: It is the is? The is the leeward side because 263 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 5: it's cold. 264 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 8: More or less. 265 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 7: The leeward side is that's where the wind is pushing 266 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 7: over the top and they're out of the wind. And 267 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 7: the leeward side would also, hopefully if the wind is 268 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 7: out of that north northwest, have that southern exposure to 269 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 7: keep them warm and out of that wind. 270 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: Gotcha, is it snowing or has it been snowing up 271 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: there much? 272 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 8: We had an inch on Friday, but not a whole 273 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 8: lot of snow. 274 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: Okay, so in the next week, what does the weather 275 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: look like and how's that going to affect deer? 276 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 8: Right now, it's gonna be typically lows in the. 277 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 7: Thirties and highs in the mid fifties, so it's still 278 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 7: a little bit warm for this time of year. Buck activity, Yeah, 279 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 7: I believe they're going to be on their feet, but 280 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 7: it's gonna be right at daylight and right at dark, 281 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 7: and I think you're gonna have to go find them. 282 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 7: I don't think you're gonna be able to set up trees, 283 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 7: stand and get on them unless you know exactly where 284 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 7: Buck's patterning. It's gonna be a little tough to find them. 285 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: I like the aggression, man. 286 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: So on a scale of one to ten for the 287 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: next week, if you had to rank buck movement in Pennsylvania, 288 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: what would you call. 289 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 7: It, I'd probably say a three to three and a 290 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 7: half and I would say, if you're gonna find one here, 291 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 7: you're gonna have to be aggressive and. 292 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 8: Go get them. 293 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 5: Shoot. 294 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: Man, that is a good tactic. 295 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 6: I like it. 296 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: Aggression. It's good stuff. Congrats on the big buck, dude, 297 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great rest of the season. 298 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 8: Hey, thanks, guys, appreciate it. 299 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 4: I've got Nate Crick from Identical draw here. Nate has 300 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 4: been out just hammering in Kansas this year quite a bit, Nate. 301 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: What's going on, man, hey Tyler? 302 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, Man, November was great, and I can't believe it 303 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 6: is December. Like the late season just snuck up like 304 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 6: so fast. But I love a lot of some things 305 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 6: about late season. But I'm also I always have to 306 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 6: miss the rut a little bit during this time of 307 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 6: the year. 308 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. Man, it starts to starts to hurt 309 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: your heart a little bit, you know. Oh yeah, yeah, 310 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: for sure. So what what the deer doing out there 311 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: right now? Man? 312 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 6: I've seen like a pretty big change in the last week. 313 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 6: So I shot a buck on some walking hunting in 314 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 6: Kansas on November twenty eighth, and it was just a 315 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 6: quick hanging hunt. Scatted on the maps, got up in 316 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 6: the saddle, thought it'd be just a good just traffic area, 317 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 6: but also had some bigger timber around there, so just 318 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 6: hoping that maybe there'd be like one last dough that 319 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 6: would get some get some movement in the area. And 320 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 6: I heard heard drunks to the south, hit some pretty 321 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: hit some drunks back. Nothing happened for fifteen minutes, and 322 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 6: actually hit the antlers together really lightly. I don't do 323 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 6: like any big like rattling sequences this time of the year, 324 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 6: even late November. I just hit him really lightly so 325 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: that year could hear them. And sure enough, ten minutes 326 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: later I saw a big old five by five walking 327 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 6: straight through the grass to me, and he came to 328 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: twelve yards. So, I mean, November twenty eighth, still like 329 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 6: working the calls. Still the calls are still good. But 330 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: in the last week I've seen a huge shift. I mean, 331 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 6: the deer movement has, at least in our part of Kansas, 332 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 6: has basically shut down. We haven't We've got cameras all 333 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 6: over our private eighty acres and we haven't had a 334 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 6: mature buck on camera in probably like ten days. It's 335 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 6: just like, I think it's full on recovery mode. I 336 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: think those bucks are just absolutely exhausted from an entire 337 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 6: month of just chasing and doing buck things. So I 338 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 6: mean the buck eye shot was just skin and bones. 339 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: I mean he was just absolutely worn down. So I 340 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 6: feel like there's kind of in between from the rut 341 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 6: till they're not like fully just like food heavy, yet 342 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 6: they're just like in recovery mode. They're just ice in 343 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 6: the wounds, just kind of laying low and I feel 344 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 6: like that's kind of what I felt this last week. 345 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: So so this time of year in that part of 346 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: the country, the deer become pretty agriculturally depended. Is seems like, 347 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, that's where their main food sources are. How 348 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: do you feel like the agriculture is this year. 349 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 8: I feel like it's pretty much the same. 350 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 9: I mean in our area. 351 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 6: Of course, like most Midwest everything gets picked to the bone. 352 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 6: So it's like, I mean there's still a lot of 353 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: food sources around there. We're lucky on our on our 354 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: parcel to be able to leave some standing food, which 355 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 6: definitely helps us later in the year. But right now, 356 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: it's just it's really interesting, like I almost feel like 357 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: you still have to like if you're gonna try to 358 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 6: kill the mature buck this time of the year, you 359 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: still kind of have to hunt them, like almost like 360 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 6: an early season cold from like you've got to get 361 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 6: really tied to that betting and just hope they move 362 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 6: a little bit. And that's what that's what this kid 363 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 6: of the year. I feel like they're just laying low 364 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 6: in their safest spots, and so like if you're gonna 365 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 6: sit a food source right now where two weeks from 366 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 6: now late December, if the tenths are good, like you'll 367 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 6: have hopefully a pile of deer in your food where 368 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 6: right now, I don't think they're there yet. I don't 369 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 6: think they're really willing to to make that movement happen yet. 370 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 6: But I mean there's food around, definitely. But I was 371 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 6: actually driving basically like north central Kansas. 372 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: I drove like from. 373 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 6: North central Kansas to like south south central Kansas a 374 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 6: few mornings ago, and I did not see a deer 375 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 6: for like the first two hours of the drive during primetime, 376 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 6: like before the sun was up until then. So I'm like, dude, 377 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 6: everything's just taken a full on reset right now. 378 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: I think it's wild. Answer, it's a weird thing. We've 379 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: seen some similar stuff where we've been hunting now and 380 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: then in the next week or so. Do you expect 381 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: things to change a little bit based on weather or 382 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: anything like that, or is it look pretty stagnant the weather. 383 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 6: The weather's stagnant. But I do have hopes that the 384 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 6: deer are going to just be like having to get 385 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 6: to the food source. I think they're just gonna have 386 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 6: to get there because they're hurting right now. They need 387 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 6: that so I'm hoping that the food sources. 388 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 9: Do pop on. 389 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 6: Usually it seems like usually like late teens to the 390 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: twentieest time of December. Always it always starts to pop on. 391 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 6: So I'm hoping that, Yeah, the next week or so, 392 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 6: it's gonna it's gonna change up for sure. 393 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 5: Awesome, man, Well, thanks for the report. 394 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 4: Before I let you go, Man, on a scale of 395 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 4: one to ten, what do you think buck movement will 396 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: be like in the next week or so? 397 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 10: Uh? 398 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 6: Man, I this might be kind of depressing, but I'd 399 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 6: say like maybe four or five out of ten. 400 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, we got to have real, real reports, man, 401 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: And I appreciate the honesty. Man. 402 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: I feel like that's where we're gonna be good. 403 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: Good, Well that's cool man. Well, so I guess the 404 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: idea is just stay in the woods and here in 405 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: the next you know, week or two, man, things are 406 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: gonna start popping on food sources. So appreciate the report, 407 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 4: and I hope you guys have a great rest of 408 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: your season. 409 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 5: Man. 410 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 9: Yep, thank you guys. 411 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: This is my buddy Mark Olss. 412 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: He works from Moultrie Mobile and more importantly, he is 413 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: a white tailed deer hunter from the state of Alabama. 414 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: Mark, what's going on? 415 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, It's it's going good here. 416 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 6: Man. 417 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 10: We're uh, we're you know, getting ready for Christmas with 418 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 10: the family and uh doing a little hunting. 419 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 8: And stuff like that. So it's a it's a good 420 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 8: time of year. 421 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 5: Heck. 422 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's nice to have that cooler weather finally 423 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: roll down in the South, you know. 424 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 8: Oh man, it's uh. 425 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 10: We we've had a great we had a pretty uh 426 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 10: severe storm system come through, you know, like early Saturday morning. 427 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 8: Uh, and and now that cold wind. 428 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 10: Is behind it, so it's it's been pushing in here 429 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 10: hard since yesterday. 430 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 8: So it's feeling good. 431 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 6: Now. 432 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: That's cool man. Have you been out in the woods 433 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: sum chasing deer round? 434 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been out a little bit here lately, uh, 435 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 10: and and been out hunting, and you know, it's it's 436 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 10: it's kind of uh that pattern, our rut is or 437 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 10: for most of the state is coming up. But it's 438 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 10: kind of like you know, hitting the systems. You know, 439 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 10: do you do you have cool weather a warm because 440 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 10: we've had plenty of warm weather and stuff like that 441 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 10: movement wasn't that great And then when you had those 442 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 10: cooler tempts had some good movements. So it's it's kind 443 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 10: of been up and down on the deer movement now 444 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 10: now mature buck movement had been very nocturnal still really. 445 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: So my yeah, tell me more about the rut, man. 446 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 4: I know that Alabama is one that a lot of 447 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: people have questions about. Talk a little bit about that, 448 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: and you said it's coming up for most of the state. 449 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: Talk about when that is too. 450 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, So Alabama, it's pretty cool. 451 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 10: And it all dates back to like the restocking efforts 452 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 10: back in the fifties and sixties. You know, deer were 453 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 10: brought from Michigan, Wisconsin, different places, and so Alabama has 454 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 10: a crazy rut. It's not all at one time. In Alabama, 455 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 10: they're deer rutting from mid November through mid February, and 456 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 10: you can find pockets. There's little zones. They may only 457 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 10: be like half a county big where they had Michigan deer, 458 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 10: and those deer are rutting in November like most of 459 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 10: the country. And then you know where I'm at, you know, 460 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 10: really Christmas is kind of a peak rut. So right 461 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 10: here where I live, man, the bucks are really starting 462 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 10: to move, starting to see new bucks show up, starting 463 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 10: to see those scrapes and rubs. 464 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 8: So there's some really increased activity going on, but the 465 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 8: dos are still grouped up. 466 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 10: The bucks are kind of just moving roam and looking 467 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 10: and a little sparring going on. They're not just all 468 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 10: out going crazy by any means yet. 469 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: So I know chruck camers are a big part of 470 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: what you do. 471 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: Are you really kind of paying attention to the cameras 472 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: to get a feeling for what the deer are doing 473 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 3: right now? 474 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 10: I am, especially for some certain spots. So here here 475 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 10: by the house, I've got a very steep ridge. It's 476 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 10: really thick, I mean really really hard to access, and 477 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 10: it's more a bedding area, and so I don't I 478 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 10: stay out of there. 479 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 8: I put my cameras in there. They're running. 480 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 10: There's these uh there's some small benches as you go 481 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 10: up that ridge, and those are their travel corridors. Now 482 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 10: I am starting to see some mature bucks moving in 483 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 10: the daylight on those on those sections of those benches, 484 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 10: and it's because they're in that tight cover. 485 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 8: So so those deer moving, but it's just not ready yet. 486 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 10: So I am really watching the cameras because I don't 487 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 10: want to go in there and blow things out until 488 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 10: it's time to really get in. 489 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 8: There and hunt. 490 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 10: So it's it's coming, but we're probably still a couple 491 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 10: weeks off from where I would even try to enter there. 492 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 8: And I will use my cameras to tell me when 493 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 8: the time's right. 494 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 5: Real quick talk about what what you'll see on the 495 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 5: camera that will tell you when the time's ride. 496 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 10: Well, it'll I'll start seeing those bucks move more consistently 497 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 10: in the daylight mornings and evenings, and then they really 498 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 10: will start cruising those things all day long. 499 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 8: So when I start seeing that increase, like for example, I. 500 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 10: Had two really nice bucks on Thursday moved through about 501 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 10: eight thirty in the morning, and that's great, But those 502 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 10: bucks came from somewhere else. They they're not deer that 503 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 10: I've had on camera, so they're they're doing their thing 504 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 10: like Roman right now. When when they really start hitting 505 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 10: those cameras consistently, that's when I'm gonna make my move. 506 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: Sure. 507 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: Sure, So in the next week or so, what do 508 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 4: you propose that deer movement or buck movement rather will 509 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: be like on a scale of one to ten, if 510 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: you had to guess, Well. 511 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 10: You know, personally, I think it's it's probably gonna be 512 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 10: maybe in that seven to eight range. 513 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: That's good. 514 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 10: And the reason I said, now that's not that's not 515 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 10: going to be well, you said buck deer movement in general. 516 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 10: You know, I'm gonna drop it a little on Bucks 517 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 10: because maybe around six because they're just and again again 518 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 10: in this state, it's all about where you're hunting. So 519 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 10: I don't want to say that because there's gonna be 520 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 10: places that are cranking and those guys are going to 521 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 10: see the movement. But across the broad stroke of it, uh, 522 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 10: you know you're going to start the bucks are starting 523 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 10: to move. We've got the cool weather. We've got stable 524 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 10: weather this week that's going to be favorable. I've always 525 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 10: noticed deer movement around here is best, you know, morning 526 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 10: and evening when you've got those favorable conditions, just cool mornings, 527 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 10: you know, and things like that. 528 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 8: So I think this is a great week to be hunting. 529 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 10: It's again, stable weather, deer getting ready, multi mobile, We've 530 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 10: got on there a game plan. It's a predictive deer 531 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 10: movement model. So I before the call, I've plugged that 532 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 10: in just to kind of see what it was saying, 533 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 10: and it's actually showing some pretty good movement patterns for 534 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 10: this week, and and that uses trail cam data multi 535 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 10: mobile trail cam data to track just buck movements. So 536 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 10: if someone has multi mobile, I encourage them go. 537 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 8: Check out that new feature. 538 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: That's pretty snazzy. 539 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 3: Man. 540 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna do that right now. I just say 541 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: that check out Mark. We appreciate the report, man, Thanks dude. 542 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: I hope you have a great rut. 543 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 8: Hey, thanks guys. Good luck to you guys as well. 544 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: This is JP Frantz. He is a Houston Astros picture. 545 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: But more importantly, he is hunting with us in Texas. 546 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: Jp, what's happening, doggs? 547 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: What's going on? 548 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 9: Appreciate the invide guys. 549 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: For sure. 550 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: Man, It's been a good time to sit he around 551 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: here and laugh and eat food with you. But deer 552 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: hunting is what we're actually here for. Been did a 553 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: little bit of that, huh for sure? This's your first 554 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 3: time dear hunting Texas. 555 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 9: Second? Second? Second? 556 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: Okay, got you. I don't want I'm gonna ask you 557 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: which one was better, because I don't want to know 558 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: you've been out in the woods with a couple of 559 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: our smelly camera guys. I'm gonna ask you what the 560 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: hunting has been like which one is, uh, smellier? 561 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 9: Well, I've had more sits with Greg, so I've had 562 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 9: more time to smell him. Smell him. How those gone 563 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 9: for you? 564 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 11: It's gone great, man, that's the It's the first time 565 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 11: I've been hunting with a camera guy. I was kind 566 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 11: of interested to see how it was gonna work having 567 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 11: two guys in a tree. 568 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 9: No, it's been awesome, man. 569 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, cool. 570 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 5: This is their movement. 571 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 11: Like I mean, this morning was probably the best morning 572 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 11: we had. We saw about ten deer and you want 573 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 11: to move right, yeah, yeah, sorry, Yeah, we saw about 574 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 11: eight or nine dose young buck and then what looked 575 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 11: like a pretty decent eight off behind the cuitar tree. 576 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 9: But they just they stayed closer to that river never 577 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 9: came in. 578 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: Have you hunted feeders before, Yes, yeah, yeah. 579 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 9: I mean I'm from Louisiana. 580 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 5: That's all we think, right, Yeah, that's what we Texas. Yeah, 581 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: it's uh, it's it can be challenging. 582 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: And you were talking you in case you were talking 583 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: about this earlier, but uh, deer just come from everywhere 584 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: sometimes when you're coming to a feeder, because it's just 585 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: like they hub into this one area, right, right, and so, 586 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: but as far as like, as far as like buck 587 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: movement goes, I mean you're seeing quite a few dos. 588 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: Are you. 589 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 4: Do you feel like bucks are cruising right now? Are 590 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: they in lockdown? What do you what are your assumptions 591 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: about that? 592 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 11: I mean, it's it's from what I've seen that that 593 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 11: that younger buck that came in, he just looked like 594 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 11: he was paying on mine to anything, just went straight 595 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 11: to the corn. But every other deer we've seen it, 596 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 11: he's looks like he's just been cruising up and down 597 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 11: that river. Like this morning we had that eight point 598 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 11: I think what we, what me and everything happened is 599 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 11: that he may be caught one of those doughs that 600 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 11: went and maybe followed them. 601 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 9: And they had those two single dear. 602 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 11: I couldn't tell if they were bucks or not, but 603 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 11: I mean they were doing the same thing, cruising up. 604 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 9: And down that river. 605 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 606 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: I personally, I haven't really noticed anything chase at all. No, 607 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: just some kind of nudgeing and stuff. None of that 608 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: nose down like that crazy. We've seen some of that. 609 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: We have on Yeah, there's an impending rain front coming 610 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: in for you know, the later part of this week. 611 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: How do you think that's going to affect the deer? 612 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 9: It should get them up and moving. 613 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 11: Like I said, we had that front roll through with 614 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 11: what a day and a half ago, and it's the 615 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 11: movement's been picking up since that, So I mean, I 616 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 11: think it's gonna get pretty good depending. I don't know 617 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 11: what stage of the rut we're at right now being 618 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 11: in in West Texas. Do y'all know if it's happened. 619 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: And here's the deal with what I've noticed about Texas 620 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: is like there are peak rut dates, but that peak 621 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: is not as high and the mountain is wider, you 622 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So, like I think right now 623 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: there's chasing that's happening that we're not seeing, and then 624 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: there are bucks lockdown with doors, which we have seen, 625 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: and then there are some bucks or dose that just 626 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: don't even care too much, you know. So I think 627 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of that going on, and it seems 628 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: as if you're just waiting on the right one to 629 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: show up, right. 630 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely, I think the cruising aspect because I mean, like, 631 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 11: like we've said, the couple of days we've been here, 632 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 11: not a lot of bucks have gone to the feeders. 633 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 9: They've kind of really passed them up and just not 634 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 9: minded them. 635 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I think that. 636 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's definitely a key thing, right, 637 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: Like the bucks don't seem to be super interested in 638 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: food source essentially, they're just they're trying to find those. 639 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, so you're actually making some moves to not yep, 640 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: to kind of change things up. 641 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: What's what's your thoughts on that? 642 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 11: Like we were saying on that one spot we were hunting, 643 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 11: there's just too many ways for those deer to access 644 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 11: that feeder, and it's just whichever way the wind's blowing, 645 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 11: they can get downhill from any angle. 646 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 9: So yeah, we're moving. What's it? 647 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 11: It's probably a good it's probably a mile probably a 648 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 11: mile away, same river system, so I mean we may 649 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 11: or may not see some of those bucks crews in 650 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 11: that river, but yeah, the plan is to just kind 651 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 11: of limit that access to that feeder and try to 652 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 11: get them to come in all similar directions. 653 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet man. 654 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: So if you had to rank the buck movement on 655 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: a scale of one to ten for the week that's 656 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: coming up here, what would you think it would be? 657 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 11: I was gonna say between like a six and eight, 658 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 11: So I'll go seven. Just for the fact that I'm 659 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 11: never hunted here. 660 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 9: I don't know. 661 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 11: I don't know how it all really works optimistic, but yeah, 662 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 11: it's I think we were looking at it. They had 663 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 11: another front rolling through at the end of next week, 664 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 11: so that should definitely pick some stuff up. 665 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the conditions, man, I appreciate your perspective on things. Man. 666 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: Glad you here home with this. 667 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate it. Again, guys, it's a blast, yep. 668 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: Man, it's good to see people still out there getting 669 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: it in the woods, trying to kill some big old bucks, 670 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: and it's good that they've got good information for us 671 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: to do that. I appreciate all the guests this week. Hey, 672 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: we actually have a video on the Element channel that 673 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: you should check out where one of our very own 674 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: Greg Latham's, has turned a buck into a lot of 675 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: barbecue recently, and you should go check that out on 676 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: our YouTube channel. 677 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: He you know, he killed this deer down in like 678 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: the mecca of barbecue man. Yeah, for sure. Man. 679 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: He hangs out undernet Hill Country stuff and it's kind 680 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: of a cool Texas experience. 681 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: And if you want to see some Texas experienced stuff. 682 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: The dudes that were hunting with here in camp are 683 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: getting the full fledged Texas experience. These losing Occagion just 684 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: didn't know what hit him when they came over here. 685 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: We had Mexican food five days in a row and 686 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: they were tired of it. 687 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: But we weren't. 688 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: But their recent success will be on our Instagram page. 689 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: The Element at the Element Wild. We are not the 690 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: Element Wild. You know the Element however, that was already taken, 691 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: So we're the Element. We call those guys Lap by 692 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: the way, Yeah Lap Lay in JP. 693 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: So go check that out on Instagram. 694 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: And while you're there, head over to the Meat Eat 695 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: your Instagram where you can see and get more information 696 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: about the live tour that is going on where Steve 697 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: and all them guys show up and tell a bunch 698 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: of jokes and Chester places his guitar for everybody need 699 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: to hear. 700 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: So this has been rough, fresh, Keep it fresh, m hm.