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Speaker 1: Bad slavery is the longest running example of bad capitalism.

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Speaker 1: And I think good capitalism is where I benefit and

428
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: you benefit more, and bad capitalism is where I benefit

429
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: and you pay a price for it. And all I've

430
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: been saying is that slavery was an example of bad capitalism, racism,

431
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: and this stuff does not work. Atlanta, where we are now,

432
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: is the tenth lars economy in the entire United States

433
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: of America, eight hundred and sorry, five hundred and eighty

434
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: billion dollars GDP, bigger than Singapore. You could pick Mississippi,

435
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: in Alabama, in West Virginia together, and take Atlanta out

436
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: of Georgia, and take Georgia, put all those together, put

437
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: him inside of the city of Atlanta and still have

438
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: room economically. Because some folks that pursued a business model

439
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: that made no sense and were stuck on that and

440
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: never integrated, never embraced, and some of the poorest economies

441
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: were once the richest, the richest. I'm about to shut up.

442
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: The richest city in the world in eighteen forty was

443
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: not just Mississippi, well in the world, Slavery cotton Seaport.

444
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: But they didn't change their business plan, they didn't upgrade

445
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: their software, they didn't get out of their own way,

446
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: and now it's one of the poorest places in the world.

447
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: So I just think that if we can discuss this,

448
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: and I think this took twenty twenty five minutes and

449
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: we unpacked pretty simple terms why this doesn't make sense,

450
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: and it's mathematically and scientifically historically confirming. In other words,

451
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: anybody can watch this and with AI you've got no

452
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: excuse not to no facts and say is what John

453
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Bryant saying, well, Bishop Jason saying true. If that's if

454
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Speaker 1: you can confirm that, then what are we talking about?

455
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Right chapter number three? We're all the same. I think

456
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: something else, something quite simple that we have to consider.

457
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: Our body does not reject human body parts based on race. Wow,

458
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: if you need a heart transplant, you can take a

459
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: heart transplant from a black man and put it in

460
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 2: a white man's body and the body will accept the

461
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: heart from the black man. It's not like the heart

462
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: will say, oh, that's a black heart. I won't take it.

463
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: It's not any different. The molecular structure of the organ

464
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: and its ability to knit itself back together with any

465
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: kind of medication, regardless of who they are, you're going

466
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: to have to take some sort of medication makes it

467
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: possible for the body to integrate. If you need a

468
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: blood transplant and I have the same blood type as

469
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: you do, we don't have to ask what race a

470
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: person is or what color they are. Should be a

471
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: better term before we're able to ingest that blood transfusion

472
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Speaker 2: and sustain our lives.

473
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Speaker 1: Because lot plasma was created by a black man. Charles Drew,

474
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: by the way, really yeah. And I'm always inspired by

475
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the Instagram posts I see of the white man walking

476
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: up to the black family who gave his daughter a

477
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: heart or a lung because there was an accident and

478
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: the donor was black. All the racial friction just falls

479
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: away to your point.

480
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Speaker 2: And that's something I think we need to think about.

481
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: That are the same species. You can't take the heart

482
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: of a dog and put it in a goat. There

483
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: you go. You can't take the heart of a goat

484
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: and put it in a cow. Yet we are the

485
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: same species. And my concern is I'm concerned about the

486
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: species as a whole surviving because this is not just

487
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: an American problem, and it's not just a black and

488
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: white and brown problem. It is happening in the Middle East.

489
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: It's happening all over the world. Syria is in a rubble.

490
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Congo people are being killed. They're calling Congo the Red

491
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Carpet because there's so much blood being shed in Congo

492
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: currently right now. I stopped writing Shades of Grave because

493
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: I came to Africa with an American ideal about race,

494
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: and when I got over there, where everybody over there

495
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: just about was black, I found out it didn't have

496
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't about what Americans say. It's about they divided

497
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: over tribes and they were fighting and killing over tripes.

498
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: They were doing genocize over tribes even though they looked

499
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: just a lot. So we have found reasons to hate

500
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: Tids were involved in the slave trade. They didn't know it.

501
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: They didn't know it, but they were fighting with each other,

502
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: taking each other prisoner, selling each other for trade economics

503
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: for you know, and then they would trade somebody to

504
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: the coast because whites couldn't go to the center of Africa.

505
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: You needed somebody to trade you out to the coast,

506
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: and they didn't realize they were trading somebody into slavery.

507
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: But everybody Arabs were involved in slave trade, Blacks, yes, Europeans.

508
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: There was a horrible Indians. It was a horrible business

509
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: model that was accepted back then. Wait wait wait, yeah,

510
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: slave traders never stopped. There we go. The slave trade

511
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: is going on right the yes, sir.

512
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: There are people that are paying money to get out

513
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: of God, to get out of Nigeria, to think that

514
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: they're going to freedom, that are going to be sold

515
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: into slavery.

516
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: All over the world.

517
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: Their slavery is going on for money. There are whites

518
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: being sold bodies, young bodies, young girls, young boys. So

519
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: and slavery still exists today as much as ever. It's

520
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: just underground, but it's still there. And in denered servitude.

521
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: You go into parts of the Middle East and they

522
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: take your passport at when you come in and you

523
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: say U owe them X dollars. You got to work

524
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: it off, and if you work it off, you get

525
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: your passport back, but not a moment until and you

526
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: live in their housing and you do their job right,

527
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: and you you know you're invisible and I don't want

528
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: to get I mean, yeah, the point is, yes, things

529
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: are messy and complicated. Let's now connect bishop this to

530
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: six thousand years ago. No, let's go back one hundred

531
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: and fifty, or let's let's make this real complicated. Let's

532
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: let's go back four hundred thousand three, two hundred thousand

533
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: years ago where Neanderthals ran into Homo sapiens.

534
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Speaker 1: And we're all cousins. So no different than you say

535
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: these tribes are badding. You had Neanderthals who were better

536
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: copers for cold weather, they were better hunters, and so

537
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: on and so forth. The Hopeo Sapiens they came together,

538
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: there was some inner breeding, and there was some you know,

539
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: they got busy. You think that the that the Neanderthals

540
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: would have been would have survived because it was just

541
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: brute force. I would say that the Homo Sapiens were

542
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: spiritually in dowed. They were more thoughtful, and ultimately they're

543
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: the ones who actually survived in this chain reaction of

544
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: human development. And if most of us have a little

545
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Neanderthal in our DNA, by the way, that it'swhere between

546
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: zero if you're in Africa up to five percent I'm

547
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: sure I have some fact I know I have some

548
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: in my in my system, I'm percent European, seventy one

549
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: percent African, the rest is Asian, Indian, and others. So

550
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: who do I hate? By the way, I hate hate Europeans.

551
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: I hate myself. But go back to the story. So

552
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: so that battle for how we evolve is a constant struggle,

553
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: and I think the spiritual. I think God in doubt

554
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting into I'm getting out of my lane. Now

555
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: you're going to correct me. God in doubt the top

556
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: of the food chain of humans with his spiritual dimissions,

557
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: so that we have a higher responsibility than every other animal.

558
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: I think that God's breath in us made us unique

559
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: amongst animals.

560
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: I think it's not only just a higher responsibility. I

561
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: think it's a higher ability because the Creator created us

562
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: in his likeness, in his image. Therefore, we are creative.

563
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 2: We have no other species that has made an automobile, yet,

564
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: we have no other species that's created an airplane. Yet,

565
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: we have no other species that's built a house with

566
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: the elevators. Yet, we have no other species that has

567
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: progressed as much as man has, and most of it

568
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: in the last three hundred years. Yes, Okay, up until then,

569
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: we were kind of coasting along like this. But the

570
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: elevation of the man's brain. As a man's brain developed,

571
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: his creativity was a reflection of the growth of his

572
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: brain and how he perceived himself and how he was

573
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: able to add on to his environment and was expressing

574
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: his likeness of God in being creative. And that creativity

575
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: has an economic impact that that helps the middle class

576
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: to survive because you become producers, not just consumers. You

577
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: produce things, and when you produce things, you're able to

578
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: have a cost to them, which creates job markets, that

579
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: creates GDP, that causes growth to happen in the world.

580
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: And we have to understand that we didn't have a

581
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: GDP to start with, we didn't have a gross economy

582
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: to start with. This is all something that we enhanced

583
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: the earth with as we evolved into more intelligent, intellectual species.

584
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: And we don't roar like the lion.

585
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: We don't.

586
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: We don't run like the cheetah. We don't. We don't

587
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: leap like the hyaena. We don't. We don't do we

588
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: don't fly like the eagle, because that's not our strength.

589
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: Our strength was not in our arms, not in our wings,

590
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: not in our legs, not even in our ears, but

591
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: in our head. Our greatest strength is our ability to think.

592
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: And we have stopped thinking. We are letting machines think

593
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: for us. We are letting other people think for us.

594
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: We are letting entertainment think for us. And the more

595
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: they think for us, the less creative we become, and

596
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: the less creative we become. The less inventive we become,

597
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: and the more less like our creator we evolve into.

598
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: And we lose the middle class when we stop making

599
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: things and start consuming things. Because all animals consume woo,

600
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: but not all animals create.

601
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: Man, you just got transported back to the Potter's house.

602
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: No no, no, but preach it, but think about it

603
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: for a minute. It is the creativity of man that

604
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: makes him superior. It is the creativity of man that

605
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: made ships and made aircraft, and made planes and made astronauts.

606
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Creativity of man. You don't see anybody else making astronauts.

607
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: You don't see eagles making astronauts. It is the creativity

608
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: of man, which is part of our fallen but still

609
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: available god likeness. That we are creative, whether it's art,

610
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 2: whether it's painting, whether it's music. We are the only

611
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: species that can do like Beethoven and create a symphony

612
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: and be deaf when we created and still be able

613
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: to do it. That level of creativity is an explordoration

614
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: of the godlikeness of our brain. And that's something that

615
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: we have to appreciate. And it does not limit itself

616
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: to any particular culture. Or we wouldn't have hip hop,

617
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: that's it, Or we wouldn't have that ass or we

618
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't have soul music, that's it, Or we wouldn't have

619
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: all the Chopin and Beethoven and Bach and all of

620
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: these different types of music that we have enjoyed over

621
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: the years, or the Africans wouldn't have.

622
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Taken it came from blackness, by the way, taking plains.

623
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: And them and make music out of them and xylophones,

624
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: we've created all that. We have taken sticks and turned

625
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: them into furniture. We have taken trees and turned them

626
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: into tables. We are creative. No other species can say

627
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: that but us.

628
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: That's right.

629
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: And our concern now becomes as we develop an artifact

630
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: that imitates our creativity, called artificial artificial intelligence. My concern

631
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: is the more that we rely on it rather than

632
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: use it as a tool. The more we rely on it,

633
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: the more our brain shrink, and the less competent we become,

634
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: because it is easy to become enslaved by whoever thinks

635
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: the most, with the most superiority.

636
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Can I, by the way, brilliant, Can I say two

637
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: provocative things? Let's do it?

638
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Catch it?

639
00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 1: Number four searching the truth. I want to suggest that

640
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: AI is another opportunity for humanity to leap to touch

641
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Speaker 1: something closer to God's evolution. More power brings more responsibility,

642
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: more accountability, the need for more morality to use it

643
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Speaker 1: properly as you're saying, to use it, so it's not

644
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: using us, So our brains get bigger, not smaller. But

645
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: it AI, I think was already there. We're just leaping

646
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: to discover it. And now we've got to figure out

647
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: how whether we're going to how are you use it?

648
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Whether we pass the test. We've passed every test up

649
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: to now, not to implode ourselves, to destroy ourselves, to

650
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: be useful to God, not to be useless to God.

651
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back now because the number that

652
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Speaker 1: the thing has mentioned more in the Bible than anything

653
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: else two thousand plus instances is money. The only time

654
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Jesus got upset was when he turned over the table

655
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: of the money changers in the temple. I'm gonna say something.

656
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I want you to disagree with me on tape. If

657
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: you disagree with this, I've we never had this conversation.

658
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: I think there was battling amongst tribes in the time

659
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: of Jesus, and I think that, simply put, Jesus was

660
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: too much truth. He had to go. I think there

661
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: are people who've served as sort of profits and helpmates

662
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: of Jesus over time. I think that I'm gonna jump forward.

663
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: I think that Gandhi was too much truth when he

664
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: tried to take make two nations and made them one.

665
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Somebody said he had to go. Shimon Perez in Israel

666
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: was too much truth when he tried to create peace,

667
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and somebody said, you've got to go. Martin Luther King Jr.

668
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Was too much truth, you gotta go.

669
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

670
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Black and white are just We should work together as

671
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: God's children. Malcolm X coming back from Mecca saying, you know,

672
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: all white people are the devil. I just prayed with

673
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: some we should be together. He was a threat to somebody.

674
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: They wanted him dead so bad. There was two shotguns

675
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: and broad daylight, indalate broad daylight in front of his family,

676
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: kids and wife. They wanted them dead, dead, dead, dead dead.

677
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Two weeks after he got back, I think from Mecca

678
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: too much truth.

679
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: I think that o the lit Yes, hold, I thought,

680
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: if you can. I think. The unique thing about Jesus

681
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: is number one. He is a composite in his historical

682
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 2: component of all types of racists. Yes, so he came

683
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: not only with truth. He came as a representative of

684
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: all people. He had the Canaanites in him, the Jevishites,

685
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: the hit Tights. He had the Jews, he had the Gentiles.

686
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: They were all in one body, And whereas religion had

687
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: separated one from the other, Jesus had embodied them together

688
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: and made them one. And his only prayer that we

689
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: have a chance to answer is that he prayed that

690
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: we might be one, even as he and the Father

691
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: were also one. That was the only thing that Jesus

692
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: ever asked for, is that we come back together as

693
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: we live together in the womb of his body, in

694
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Speaker 2: the womb of his flesh, in the womb of hisself,

695
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: and So while these other teachers bring truth, what separates

696
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: Jesus from being bringing truth is that he is truth.

697
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: Yes, he is truth.

698
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: And the more that we begin to understand that the

699
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: truth is the fact that there is one species which

700
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: we embodied Christ, so that he died for all men all.

701
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: See.

702
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: See, he didn't just die for the Jew or die

703
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: for the white man and died for the black man.

704
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: He died for all mankind because a little bit of

705
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: everything was down inside of him. And likewise there's a

706
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: little bit of almost in all of us, a little

707
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: bit of everything down inside of us. And as we

708
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: begin to come back to an us understanding of redemption,

709
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: of development, of building, of growing, of going forward, if

710
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: we can get back to that, I think a lot

711
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Speaker 2: of powerful things can begin one.

712
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Speaker 1: Hundred percent with our question. By the way, yes, is

713
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: there anything I've said? By the way, before I say

714
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: anything else where I've stepped. I stubbed my told spirit.

715
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: No use not stub your toes.

716
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: It's just that the reason Jesus cleared the temple was

717
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: because Herod the government had taken over the church. So

718
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: the government was using the money that they raised in

719
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: Herod's temple and taken advantage of their faith to subsidize

720
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: the government. So it ceased to be a spiritual ceremony

721
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: or offering. It became another way to tax the people

722
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: and to use their faith to take advantage of them,

723
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: and to pollute the sanctity and the purity of the Gospel.

724
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: And Jesus came over and kicked over to the table

725
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: because he never intended for the government to get in

726
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: God's business. Okay, and even today, even in the way

727
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: we married by according to the state of Georgia, I

728
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: now pronounced, what does the state of Georgia have to

729
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: do with this? This is not a state institution. But

730
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: we keep trying to fuse together that which is spiritual,

731
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: which that which is colonel. And whenever God sees that,

732
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: he always throws it over, because we were never meant

733
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: to be one.

734
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: One final thing. The woman with twenty final things, the.

735
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: Woman with the alabaster box that comes in and annoys

736
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: his feet for burial. She has the boxes made out

737
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: of alabaster. The oil is made out of spignrd. She

738
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: had represented a year's wages. The spignrd never changed the

739
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: components of the box, and the box never changed. The

740
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: component of the spignert, that which was alabasm master was alabaster,

741
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: and that which was spignant, with spignant understanding the uniqueness

742
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: of that. Two things can walk together, but they can

743
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: never imitate the other thing. They walk together, but they

744
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: are not together. They are still separate. So when we

745
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: start talking about coming together, you have to start together.

746
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: In order to come together, you have to be Adam

747
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: and Eve and come back together. You can't reconcile what

748
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: was never one before. And so the understanding of oneness

749
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: is built upon beholo Israel, the Lord that God is

750
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: won you see, And as soon as you get that

751
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: in your head, you can't be like him and be two.

752
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: Okay, talk to them.

753
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: When God gets ready to create everything else, he creates

754
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: it with his mouth. But when he gets ready to

755
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: create man, he reaches in one man and pulls a

756
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: woman out of him. He doesn't have to reach back

757
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: into the dirt, because a woman is not a separate species.

758
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: And the problem with men is we keep trying to

759
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: make the woman a different species, a lower level species,

760
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: when in fact she is a part of him. Woe man,

761
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: And so Jesus back to my point. Jesus clears the

762
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: temple because Herod has gotten into the business of religion

763
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: that he can profit bad capitalism.

764
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: There you go dead on the head.

765
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: And the other thing that we have to think about

766
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: is the absence of middle class is the absence of

767
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: industrial growth? Yes, because when we stop being creators, we

768
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: are left only to be consumers, and it leads to

769
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: the detriment of the wealthy as well as support.

770
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go what's up further, Most wealth came from

771
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: poor people. Most legitimate wealth came from poor people who

772
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: found the latter scarried out. You went from the poor

773
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: to working class, working to working middle class to middle class,

774
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: and that the lattering. That that everything you're saying one thousand,

775
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: absolutely Now, how do I see weave all this together?

776
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Because you just gave us a theology lesson that was

777
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant.

778
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: Chucking them five products to owners.

779
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this. I'm gonna say this in sort

780
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: of very simple layman's terms. Way back when, three thousand

781
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: or so years ago, we had a choice to make.

782
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: We could have put our economy inside of our culture,

783
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: our culture inside of our economy. In my view, we

784
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: made the wrong mistake. We made the wrong choice. We

785
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: decided to take our culture and put it inside of

786
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: our economy. Now everything's for sale. President Bill Clinton once

787
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: told me it's hard to get somebody degree to the

788
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: truth when the lie is paying their paycheck. And so

789
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: now everything's for sale. And to rationalize is to tell

790
00:49:54,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: rational lies. And history is his story. So I'm gonna

791
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: banon your books, I'm gonna destroy your history. I'm gonna

792
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: shut off the lights of your background. I'm gonna say

793
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: this story didn't happen. So I'm gonna sanitize this in

794
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: a way because I've got the power that contorts and

795
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: distorts your worldview. I did this video that went viral

796
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: Bishop about Black Africans, Black Caribbeans and African Americans. We're

797
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: the same, but we're different. It's cultural. Black Africans had

798
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: mom and dad at home, had children at home. The

799
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: Black Caribbeans, when they were enslaved, they were allowed to

800
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: stay married, the kids were staying at the house. It

801
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: was less traumatic. The version of slavery was less brutal,

802
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: economically brutal and otherwise culturally brutal, and it lasted a

803
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: shorter time in the brutal way of being a slave

804
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: versus just being an indentured servant. America took this model

805
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: and grew it. They didn't they didn't descend it. It grew,

806
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: it became more. As I said, notch in Mississippi was

807
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: the wealthiest city in the world. Cotton tobacco, the plus

808
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: the cotton gin and all this machinery, the AI of

809
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: that time, the technology at that time grew. The Wall

810
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: Street came. Wall Street was Montgomery, Alabama. Don't trust me.

811
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: All these Wall Street firms started in Montgomery, Alabama. That

812
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: was Wall Street because they were finance singing, the biggest

813
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: business in the world at that time. So we've just

814
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: gone in less than an hour around the world, and

815
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I think we've broken a lot of eggs. We've broken,

816
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: we've we've destroyed, destroyed a lot of presumptions. And if

817
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: we had time, we could we could we could go

818
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: back six thousand years and show talk about how black

819
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: people and Jews were cousins in the Middle East. They

820
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: were all one family and and they took different focuses.

821
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Blacks became the experts in creativity, culture and cool and

822
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: we master that around the world today and we say

823
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: it's cool, and it's cool in Tibet. But and then

824
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: others became experts in capitalism and commerce in markets, right,

825
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: and now we rock the stage, but they own it.

826
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: So now all I'm saying is, where are the rules

827
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: of published and the playing fielders level? We kill it?

828
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: The arts, professional sports, not just traditional sports, tennis, F

829
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: one racing, soccer, right, we kill it. Faith politics from

830
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the slavery to the President of United States of America,

831
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: mister President Barack Obama. We can do anything. So if

832
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: we were positioned around good capitalism and we say not

833
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: just black lives matter, but black capitalists matter, and we

834
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: go from civil rights to civil rights, and we began

835
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: to become owners of our stages.

836
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: It is hard to teach a product to be an

837
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: owner if you have a low self esteem. No no, no, no, no, no,

838
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: you don't hear the profundity of what I said. Okay,

839
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: we came here a product. Oh no, we were for sale.

840
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: No I got what you said. So the idea that

841
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: the product is now an owner is a role reversal

842
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: that that our mentality doesn't always uh embrace even with

843
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: an education, because education is often indoctrination. What we need

844
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: is to have it modeled in front of us. What

845
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: it looks like to see somebody who looks like us,

846
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: who owns and is not being owned. Okay the world

847
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: I present to you. Bishop, No, I don't. I don't

848
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: have enough money to be in that road. Ambassad's ambassador

849
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: Andrew Young would say. Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous. Yeah,

850
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: Oprah Winfrey, Tyler.

851
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Perry, Yeah, Robert Robert Smith, right, Charlemagne.

852
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Now I'm talking.

853
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean all these he and she Rose, uh, Janis,

854
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: Brian Holroyd, all people who are Byron Allen, all the people,

855
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey. But but but not just the political talent,

856
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: not just the entertainment talent. What's your gentleman has it?

857
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: They live in being Nail a company in the Midwestern

858
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: He's not a household name. But Dave Stewart, Dave Stewart,

859
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean everybody should go to research. Dave Stewart, I

860
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: mean making smart sexy again?

861
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: What what what? Before we take the first dollar or

862
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: coin or whatever it is, I think don Peebles too,

863
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: before we take any of it in. If we don't

864
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: change our mind, we'll never be able to change our money.

865
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: It's all about mine. It's all about mindset. Because if

866
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: you think you are a product. When you get money,

867
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: you will only draw more products sort of spend it

868
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: so to spend it.

869
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about the Caribbean and Africa. They

870
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: have higher self esteem and lower confidence because they did

871
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: not succeed in a market economy big one. But they

872
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: have hire self esteam because they had family structure and

873
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: everybody looked like them and so self esteem was not

874
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: their issue. We had higher confidence because the biggest of

875
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: market economy in the world, but lower self esteem. It

876
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: was beaten out of us. That's why somebody from Caribbean

877
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: can come here three years later they've stayed four people

878
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: in a house. Now they own the house. And they

879
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: go from you know, being a taxi a dormant to

880
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: being a taxi driver, taxi driver or Uber driver, uber driver,

881
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: owning the black cart, black card, owning five black cars.

882
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they are all the valets. This

883
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: is the park high in d C. Plus all the

884
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: taxis and all and all the uber and that's the

885
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: immigrant story. But they don't have self esteem problem. They

886
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: just needed to have a business plan. When we because

887
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: we were assets to your point, because we were we

888
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: had low self esteem. Our families were destroyed. Mother and

889
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 1: father went that way, family went that way. We did

890
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: not love ourselves, did not like ourselves. I think to

891
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: this day we're mostly depressed. I go back in where

892
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: I started, look at our inner city neighborhood. Now. If

893
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't like me, I'm not gonna like your. If

894
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about me, I'm not gonna feel

895
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: good about you. If I'm a surviving mindset, I'm an

896
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: expert in what I'm against and I what I'm for.

897
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: I see a check a check cash next to a

898
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: pati loan lender, next to a rental own store, next

899
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: to a title lender, next to a liquor store, next

900
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: to a pawn shop, and we think it's normal. It's

901
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: not normal. No, someone's praying on you. They are targeting you,

902
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: and we don't even notice it.

903
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: The odd thing about it is this, there are no

904
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: walls around the ghetto. Nope, and yet we are imprisoned

905
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: by invisible walls.

906
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: Let a center, the credit scord set you free.

907
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are. We are imprisoned by invisible

908
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: You can be poor in West Virginia. You don't have

909
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: to be poor in Chicago.

910
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: That's right.

911
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 2: You can be poor in Mississippi. You can be poor,

912
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 2: and you can be poor in Georgia. It's your mindset

913
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: that makes you unable to escape when somebody comes along

914
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: and shows you when you talk about how you started,

915
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 2: when somebody comes along and shows you a better way,

916
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 2: yes they vote, they've given you something better than money. Yes,

917
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: they have given you vision. Yes, by the way, I

918
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't want to make you uncomfortable. But now

919
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: you now know why you were attacked. Its true, too

920
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: much truth, too much wisdom. The light was shining so high,

921
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: so loud, so bright that that versus applauding you. Egos

922
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: don't fly in packs, but egos and respect other eagles.

923
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: Buzzards hate pa Basically, buzzers love packs. But buzzers can't

924
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: get to that that that level of of that that

925
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: ascendancy of of height, and so they shoot at eagles.

926
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: Buzzards shoot at eagles, and and they try to bring

927
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: you down if they can't come up, and it is

928
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: it is human nature. Unfortunately on your hurt people hurt people.

929
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: Hurt people hurt people, and so you got to get

930
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: the toxicity out of your life. Starting with you. Your

931
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: first relationship is with yourself so you mentioned mindset. All

932
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 1: poverty other than sustenance poverty, roof over your head, food

933
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: and the table, and reasonable healthcare is mindset. Whether I

934
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: believe I can or whether but believe I can't. I'm right.

935
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: What it is glass half fullers and half empty depends

936
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: what's looking at the glass. If you're around a bunch

937
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: of people and they say this glass is half empty,

938
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: run for all your life. Run. If you hang around

939
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: nine broke people, you'll be the tenth. And I don't

940
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: mean broke financially, I mean broke in. So you have

941
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: a surviving mindset, a throbbing mindset, and a building winning mindset.

942
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: You need to surround yourself with builders and winners. The

943
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: book The Tipping Point Knocking Gladwell University of Illinois study

944
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: proved that five percent of positive role models every community

945
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: stabilizes by the way, he's black, he doesn't look it

946
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: knock him Gladwell, He's Caribbean. Yes, it's stabilizes. Doctor King

947
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: only had twenty percent of the Black community support right

948
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: at his height, right right, twenty cents white community support

949
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: at its height and having them with Jewish and still

950
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: he changed the world, which.

951
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: Means everybody doesn't have to agree with you, or like

952
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: you or support you. You can't take everybody with it.

953
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: You cannot take everybody with you. I've never met a

954
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: hater that was doing better than me. Hello, I like

955
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: what I'm doing much better what you're not doing. Yeah,

956
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: I can do better all by myself. I don't need help. Yeah,

957
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: I've never You don't see people throwing rocks down. Whoo,

958
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: They're always throwing rocks up. We're trying to get something

959
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: to fall. So you have to understand proximity. It's based

960
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: on the perception of the fact that you're in the

961
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: big house and I'm in the field, that you have

962
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: a car and I've got a donkey. Anytime somebody hates you,

963
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: it is because they admire something about you, but they

964
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: think it's too far out of their reach. Rather than

965
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: being inspired that they would rather attack you. That's right,

966
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: catching them six.

967
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: Blue friend.

968
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: I want you to intellectually show us the footprints that

969
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: you stepped in from homelessness to become who you are.

970
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: You have been there, you have done that. I want

971
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: somebody to be able to catch the breadcrumbs or the

972
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: footprints that changes your life. If you were homeless, right, now,

973
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: what would be the first step. Well, you know I

974
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: was homeless, I know it, like quite literally. That's why

975
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: I said fly to air and airport. Yeah, and I

976
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: was in a car that was being repossessed and the

977
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: company was calling me every day. And I saw two

978
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: murders before I was nine years old. I'm just for

979
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: the audience who think that all this guy can't relate

980
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: to me. My mom and dad divorced over money, where

981
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: they fought domestic abuse right in front of me, had

982
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: to call the police when I was four or five

983
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: years old, saw murder when I was seven years old,

984
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: my best friend murder when I was nine years old,

985
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: the nancial literacy course when I was ten years old,

986
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: started my first business nine years old, start my first

987
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 2: business ten years homeless when I was eighteen, nineteen, twenty

988
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: years old. So rainbows only follow storms. You cannot have

989
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: a rainbow without a storm first. You can't grow through

990
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: except through legitimate suffering. I believe that's biblical. I'm gonna

991
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: say the same thing we've been saying this whole podcast.

992
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: Ignore the noise. My number one advice is eagles don't

993
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: fly in packs. Ignore the noise. Why do we spend

994
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: all of our.

995
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: Time trying to impress somebody that we don't want to be, Like,

996
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: try and impress the sixth square block celebrity that's got

997
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: all the girls, or all the guys or all the whatever.

998
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: They got the money but know wealth. They got smart,

999
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: but no sense, and we're stepping over Donald to pick

1000
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: up a dime, like knock it off. I walked through

1001
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: life consciously oblivious of most things around me because it

1002
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. And I work really hard to keep

1003
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: toxicity and toxic people away from it. And it's a job,

1004
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: and they will resist. If you have toxic people around

1005
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: you and they know they're playing a game, and they

1006
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: know the best chance they have success is a leach

1007
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: on to you, and you try to get them away

1008
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: from you, they will work. They will fight violently to

1009
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: teach to stay attached to you. People who have hurt me,

1010
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: bishop people who tried to hurt me have not been strangers.

1011
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: All of them are people that I know, and they

1012
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: thought they rationalize their behavior. I'm sure they convince themselves

1013
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: that they were right. And if you have low self esteem,

1014
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: you can be drawn into this cesspool of irrationality where

1015
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: you're aiding and abetting somebody who's destroying you. So I

1016
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: just say, look, I can do bad all by myself.

1017
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't need help. If I'm in a relationship with somebody,

1018
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: you gotta add to me. Whether if I'm in a

1019
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: relationship to myself, I need to add to me. I'm

1020
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: just reasonably comfortable with my own skin, and every day

1021
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: I screw up and I try to take ownership of it.

1022
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: But if I'm going to know you or No CJ,

1023
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: or know somebody else or know Michael Phillips, then I

1024
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: need two plus two. Who has to equal six to

1025
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: eight or hen or what we're doing. If we're not

1026
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: better together, what are we doing. I don't need somebody

1027
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: else in my life to bring me down, as you say,

1028
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: throwing rocks down versus throwing rocks up. No, no, no no.

1029
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: I want you to be better because you know me,

1030
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: and I want to be better because I know you.

1031
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: That's a that's a great marriage, by the way, marriage

1032
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: of a partnership or friendship, but it starts with your

1033
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: relationship with yourself. I'm just reasonably comfortable in my own skin.

1034
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: That's what I love about Oprah. She's just cool with

1035
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: her I mean, that is a that is a high

1036
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: frequency woman. My wife shades you a high frequency woman.

1037
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: Your wife, your daughter, high frequency people. So that's my

1038
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: advice on financials. That's my advice on success in life.

1039
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: Get yourself right, become find a way to make peace

1040
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: with yourself. God is your business plan. You're the You're

1041
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: the agent, your your legs, your hand, and your You

1042
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: got to do the work. But he's your business plan

1043
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: or she and you can get that right tool. Billionaire

1044
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: Tony Wrestler, who we both know now, who's one hundred

1045
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: and fifty the richest man in the world. If you

1046
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: don't quit, you can't fail. Just it's about you make

1047
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: money during the day. You build wealth in your sleep.

1048
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: So let's buy a home, let it compound. Let's buy

1049
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: some stocks, let it compound. Let's get an insurance plan

1050
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: and a will and let it do its job. Let's

1051
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: buy Let's let's start a business. Let's make your nine

1052
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: to five financial five to nine. This is what everybody's

1053
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: done for the for in six thousand years. It's not

1054
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: my thing is we just haven't done it. Financial literacy

1055
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: is a civil rights issue of this generation. When you

1056
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: know better, you do better. Old Southern saying, no matter

1057
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: how much I love you, my son or my daughter,

1058
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: if I don't have wisdom, all I can give you

1059
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: is my own ignorance.

1060
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, only thing I would add to it, and

1061
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: I'm not the expert on that kind of stuff. Find

1062
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: your product and you've found your answer. Yes, whatever the

1063
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: product is. If it's a bag of seeds, yes, if

1064
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: it's an ability to make cupcakes. If you find your

1065
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: product and figure out how to take the product and

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Speaker 2: turn it back into the business and continue to grow

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Speaker 2: it till you grow yourself out of it so that

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Speaker 2: you can invest in stocks. Because if you're really homeless

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Speaker 2: and you're really broke, you may not have anything to invest.

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Speaker 2: You're still trying to find something need and get your

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Speaker 2: credit score up there. Yeah yeah, yeah, get your creditscre

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Speaker 2: up you got, but you gotta find a product to

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Speaker 2: do that. You got to find a product.

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Speaker 1: This ship. On this point, I'm gonna suggest their first

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Speaker 1: product is them because if I look around your studio, true,

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Speaker 1: if I look around your house, as I look around

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Speaker 1: your office, as I look around virtually spiritually right now

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Speaker 1: in my office, all of my special forces team, all

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Speaker 1: of your special forces team, everybody, here's a twinkle in

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Speaker 1: their eye. There's something special. We're not human beings having

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Speaker 1: a spiritual experience. We're spiritual beings having a human experience.

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Speaker 1: Energy matters. I'm suggesting humbly. He's correct. Find your product,

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Speaker 1: find what you have to sell, but be the thing

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Speaker 1: that is sells itself first, because you're the vessel. You

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Speaker 1: are God's vessel here. So get comfortable with you. Build

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Speaker 1: you up so that when someone meets you, even in

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Speaker 1: a crowd, the world stops. They're like, WHOA, who's that

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Speaker 1: that twinkle in your eye? You can't you can't find

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Speaker 1: your product if you don't have the thought. What you're

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Speaker 1: talking about is a thought, Yes, cognition switch to think

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Speaker 1: a certain Yeah, that's the ignition switch that makes you

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Speaker 1: find whatever it is you're going to find. When we

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Speaker 1: were in Africa, by the way, my wife only wanted

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Speaker 1: to me one person. This is years and years ago.

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Speaker 1: We were in Africa with Ambassador Andrew Young. She heard

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Speaker 1: that Bishop td Jakes was in the next hotel, and

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Speaker 1: she didn't care about Giraffes or Safari's African history anymore.

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Speaker 1: She didn't want to hear no preachings preaching the Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister she said, John, I just want to meet Bishop tdjys. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and I got what now now I call it husband point,

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Speaker 1: What a disappointment. No, I'm still benefiting from that. We

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Speaker 1: could do this all I'm not going to do that

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Speaker 1: to you. We could do this all night. I hope

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Speaker 1: you heard something that inspired you from the wealth of

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Speaker 1: this tremendous library of knowledge that's been made available to

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Speaker 1: you through John Bryant, and I hope you took something,

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: took some notes down. You don't have to agree with

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Speaker 1: all of it. Maybe you got a half of it.

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Speaker 1: You don't even have to understand all of it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you've got three sentence. Three sentences, three of the right

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Speaker 1: sentences could change your whole life, vision, provision, understand it.

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Speaker 1: The more you can see it, the more you can

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Speaker 1: be it. Thank you for joining us on the Next Chapter.

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Speaker 1: I'm TD Jakes and this is John O'Brien. I love you,

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Speaker 1: mad Hey, everybody, I want to take this time to

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Speaker 1: thank you for watching the Next Chapter podcast. If this

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Speaker 1: conversation inspired you, helped you reflect on an idea, or

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Speaker 1: spark something new inside of you, make sure to like,

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Speaker 1: life isn't about how you begin, it's about how you

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Speaker 1: finished strong. So start your next chapter with us right

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