1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: and culture, start with headline news and then journey to 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally, that 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: dude rubbing these hands together like birdman because I'm feeling 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: it right now. Man, love for you guys out there, Friday, 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: swag away, get that book. Let's get through it, hunted 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: K day and time. Exactly when is that? Oh, it's 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna happen in a couple of days, a few days. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: And you get some of these cars right. 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: Here, or somebody said and not or and you get 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: this jersey. 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I heard your hands out there. Give me both of 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: them while they stopped being cheap. All right, Well, you 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: know how we start off every show with what's up 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: with that? 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Dude? Let me tell y'all, man, I went to a 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: conference yesterday. Now. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: I was really excited to go to this conference for 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: two reasons. One, I was gonna learn more about the game. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the game I'm in right. 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Now, sports media, right, So I was like, let me 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: go there, and get edumacated on what's going on in 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: the game with cast that had bees in their bank account. 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean the bees in the trap like billionaires right, 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: like a Stan Kronkey was there talking to him. And 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: then you look around and you can see all these 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: VCS execs. Okay, but that ain't the real reason. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I went, like everybody else, right, I love to be educated, 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: but prefer to be entertained. Let's just say that, Well, 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: my favorite basketball player in the world was throwing this conference. 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: His name is Kevin Durant. Yes, KD was in the building, 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: all seven foot of him, even though he liked to 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: be six or eleven. That sucker there got to be 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: seven feet. So it was the boardroom. Everybody knows he's 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: co founded the Boardroom with Rich Climbing. Amazing job of 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: what they've done and the growth that they have and 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: everything under their umbrella. A couple players there, Polo, you know, 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, he was there, banchero Jalen Green 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: was there. 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: You had despite the viral video that y'all all clowned 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: them on, he was in the house. That was great. 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Ran it too. 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: The CNBC president who threw the conference as well, with 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: the boardroom in partnership, right, so everybody knows CNBC talk 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: about some money, talk about CNBC. He pulled me to 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: the side. He's like, hey, you don't know who I am, 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: but I went to holy Cross. Now, going to Columbia 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: and playing against holy Cross back in those days where 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: Gordie Lockbomb went it literally was like us playing Alabama. Right, 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: so I remember this game because most of the time 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: people come up to me, I don't remember the game. 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: I remember like if we won or lost, maybe, but 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember the game. 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: He was like, do you played against us? When I 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: was young? 58 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the field special teams and now 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: he's the president of CNBC, is my point. But he's like, yeah, 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I was like a youngster and you destroying everybody in 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: that game. 62 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: And then when you were getting drafted. 63 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: You know how they run that montage you like, okay, 64 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: the best available draft prospects. Marshaul's wally from Columbia, And 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: while they're saying all that stuff about. 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Me, they run that video, he said. 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: The video and they were clowning in the frat house 68 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: was nothing but me playing against holy Cross for like 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: minutes and just destroying and picking the people up. 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't remember all that, but I do remember. 71 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: Being amped for that game because I was a step 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: up playing a Patriot League from the IVY League. 73 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: So that was a fun conversation. Had an amazing time. 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Obviously, I got my picture with Kevin Durant, y'all see, 75 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: and it just I talked to him. You know why 76 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: I love Kevin Durant one because that sucker, there is 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: a pure basketball player made in the lab, in the gym, 78 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: in the heaven, that sucker. 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: You just look at him. He's like, just bam, be 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: just graceful, right silly. 81 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: But more than that, I love his approach through social media, 82 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: through his personality of humanizing himself. So he sees the 83 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: fan fair, he hears what everyone says good and bad 84 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: about him, and he responds like, now dog ain't no star, huh, 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: I got a chopplin a car. He is more like 86 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: I heard y'all and this is what y'all need to hear. 87 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I love his engagement. Y'all could say he's a troll 88 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: or he should be too big to be responding, but 89 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: listen to what you're saying. If you're saying, if Kevin 90 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Durant a basketball star is too big to just talk 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: to another person that supports him. Think about that, right, 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: So that's what I love about him. He doesn't just 93 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: say trolling things. He says good things as well. Of 94 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: course that doesn't make the news. Salute to my favorite 95 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: basketball player in the world. After that, I went to 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Craigs for dinner. Craigs is a special spot in LA 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: for famous people. I ain't famous, so when you pull up, 98 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: it's so cute because when you pull up, you see 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: the paparossi there and they sitting there and they know 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: who's coming and all that. And then if you, like 101 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: me not famous, guess what they do, go back to Instagram. 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: They go back to Instagram every now and then. If 103 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: it's something big in sports, they'll come up to me. 104 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: But nine times out of ten, I'll walk right in 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: and then right behind me like Tom Hanks, and then 106 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, sinat that that. 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: You know. 108 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: That's how it goes. So in La, get in where 109 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: you fit in, while I fit in well. With my wife. 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: We were there our two friends. One's a big real 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: estate agent out here. The other one runs all of 112 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's in Sierra's business that's a cool gig. You 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: should hear his stories. Sucker that be everywhere. I need 114 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: a jart tagging along with them man and kicking it 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: with them. Had a great time. And now let's get 116 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: to somebody who, at least for part of this year, 117 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: won't have a great time. His name is Jim Harbaugh, 118 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Michigan coach. You know, I'm the one that broke the 119 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: news years ago there was going to Michigan. 120 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm in Carr. I am Blefter right here, Adam Schefter 121 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: in a different color. 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: But the suspension and negotiations that he's having with the 123 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: NCAA has not been finalized. But that four game suspension 124 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: is looming for Jim Harbaugh. Now they're in discussions to 125 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: try to come to some resolution. I don't know what 126 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: that's going to be because it's kind of it's bold 127 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: and explicit in the rule book of what the violation 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: is and the result of that. So the Lumen suspensions 129 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: tied to an nc DOUBLEA recruiting violation and it went 130 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: back to a. 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Level one violation. What's level one? 132 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: We all learn most serious con for the NCUBA and 133 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: not cooperating with the NCUBA as well. 134 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that in a second. 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: So this all happened during the COVID nineteen shut down 136 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: recruiting dead period, and the violations include impermissible contact recruits 137 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: during the NCAA mandatory dead period. Y'all know the dead 138 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: periods of time you can't contact anybody. You gotta respect that. 139 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: Get these kids in space. 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Let them think, let them live a normal life. 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I guess that's the reason, right as well as you 142 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: use a defensive analyst on the field for on field 143 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: coaching activities, which is another rules violation. 144 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: All right, we're learning right now. 145 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: Those violations came from an escalation of smaller violations. 146 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: But the failure, y'all. 147 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Catch me here, the failure to cooperate rate emerged during 148 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: the investigation, and then there were multiple meetings between Harball 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and ncuble A which he refused to admit he lied 150 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: during the investigation. Y'all know that's a running theme on 151 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: this show right here, right like, if you make my 152 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: job harder, I'm gonna. 153 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Make your life harder. And that's what the e C 154 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: double A basically say, hey, bro, tell the truth. We 155 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: kind of got you here. 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: It's like the fans of anybody when they ask you 157 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: questions like that, typically they know the answer. 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: They just want you to lead them easier to that answer. 159 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: If not, they gonna find out the hard way, and 160 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be harder on you. So Harball still has 161 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: not acknowledged specifically that he misled or lied to the 162 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: NC double A. Now what's funny about that is he's 163 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: getting charged with lyon and then they want them. 164 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: To tell the truth. He like, Nah, just keep the 165 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: charges going. Dah. Let's see what y'all gonna do to me. 166 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Is a four game suspension, So they're gonna come to 167 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: some resolution. They're gonna figure it out all the violations. 168 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: Now more games he may miss. 169 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: It's hilarious. 170 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: They are beyond favorite in all of these games. East Carolina, UNLV, Bowling, Green, 171 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: and Rutgers. I mean, none of those teams sent a 172 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: chance against them. So it's a four game suspension, but 173 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: against those four opponents, how much of a pinch is it? Also, 174 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: how much of a pinch is it when your four 175 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: game suspension for a head coach would mean that coach 176 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Carball would be able to coach practice every single day 177 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: of the week, but not be allowed to come to 178 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: the game or the stadium on game day, So basically, 179 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: coach them up, get him ready, to get prepared, because 180 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: we know preparation is the separation. The game is just 181 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: where you show what you already prepared for. And then 182 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: he just at the. 183 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: Crib chilling watching them play UNLV beating him seventy three 184 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: to six. 185 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Right, So my question is, one, is this enough of 186 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: a pinch if he really violated it? But two, even 187 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: if he did violate it, why are y'all really pressing 188 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: this issue? Because the NC DOUBLEA is really what needs 189 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: to be highlighted here, not Jim Harball and his indiscretions. 190 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: The NC DOUBLEA is caught up right now in this 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: civil war of eras, the civil war of the era, 192 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: of the old regime, the old way of doing things, 193 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: and this new nil college football landscape. Right it's like 194 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA and mess around to y'all may go away. 195 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: That's what it's looking like right now because people are 196 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: like dog, these rules are archaic. You guys are now 197 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: not only having archaic rules but really trying to uphold 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: them with penalty. 199 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: When you know what Jim Harball really did. Let me 200 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: tell you what the infraction was. 201 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: He lied about buying recruits Hamburgers with his own money. 202 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: That's where they went down to. 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: Yes, really in the age of nil with dudes I 204 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: know have seven figure deals. Yes, Caleb Williams is a 205 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: millionaire off nil deals and hardball's coaching a top five 206 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: team in our country and he is about the miss 207 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: four games because he bought some recruits Burgers. 208 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. A ruler is a rule. 209 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: Change the rule first, don't violate the rule first. 210 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: I agree with that, But let's just admit how idiotic 211 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: these rules are and how they don't keep up with 212 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: the times, and then they punish you in the present 213 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: for something that was written in the past that shouldn't 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: be around anymore. 215 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 2: So is this suspension really a suspension? And should it 216 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: even be a suspension? Like? It's just so silly right here. 217 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I know that when I play that Columbia and because 218 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: of the statute of limitations, I can say this now, 219 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: A whoa recruit. I had a couple of violations. Let's 220 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: just say that I had a couple of my alums. 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Let's just say we're nicer than me than the average joe. 222 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: That's all I must say. And I enjoy those nick 223 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: games as well. Y'all figure it out. 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: The love Yeah, baby Friday Swagger? Wait, which member is 225 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: gonna win this? Oh? We shipping those things out? 226 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: People getting that love or pick the exact day in 227 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: time we go over a honey Kaka and when you 228 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: could get those and yeah, I'm stop being cheap and 229 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: you could get this jersey right here. 230 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: From the now defunk San Diego Chargers. 231 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Well they may be defunct, but the LA Chargers show, 232 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: ain't they done paid my boy Herbie? Okay, before I 233 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: get into the story, I just gotta let you know 234 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: my Herbie's story. 235 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Right. 236 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: So I was hosting the LA Chargers event charity golf 237 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: tournament party all this stuff about a month ago, right, 238 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: And I have not met Justin Herbert in real life, 239 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: but I go to every single game and that's my 240 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: favorite player. It was Lamar Jackson but kind of getting 241 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: weird a little bit of late and not just being available, 242 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: and it hurt a little bit. 243 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: So I was like Lamar Jackson but. 244 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert because I see him every single time at games, 245 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: but I never met him in real life. Right, So 246 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: finally I'm at the tournament and I didn't even know 247 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: if he was there, and I didn't want to put 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: myself in that position mindset to be disappointed that Herbert 249 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be at the golf tournament. 250 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: So I'm just riding around. 251 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: But I'm like, damn, this is the house that Herbert 252 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: is building, right, I'm just chilling, all right. Then I 253 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: pull up to I don't know, the thirteenth hole, and 254 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: then I turned and as I turned, there's a cart 255 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: pulling in. And guess who's in the cart? Y'all know Herbie. 256 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: And then I run up to him like fan man, 257 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: like straight up, like I don't give a damn like 258 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: Dawg Dusser. First of all, I'm like this, I ain't 259 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: even say like this. I say this justin Herbert, that 260 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: sucker there six six for real, like for real? Six six? 261 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: He like, hey, so this was nice to me. Now 262 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: first that card had caught me likes. Now, I know 263 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: I'm somebody, but I ain't Tom Hanks like I told 264 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: you before. I could go to Craigs and I get 265 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: a picture. But Herbert knew my name, right, So I'm pumped, 266 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, you know you're my favorite player, 267 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: Always rapped for you I got love for you, blah 268 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: blah blah. 269 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: And then he stopped me. He said, you don't understand. 270 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: I grew up watching you. I love you. Sports Nation 271 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: was my thing. And then it clicked. I was like, 272 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: that's twenty four year old. Oh go back to ten, 273 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: twenty carry to one. 274 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: Yes, when out twenty silly shows and fun shows, kids 275 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: are going home. 276 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: My ma, mom, be quiet. Its three o'clock s First 277 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: Nations on something like that. And then that kid is 278 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: now this kid who I'm a fan of. Ain't that 279 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: crazy how the world works? 280 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's talk about what we all a fan of him, 281 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: especially the Chargers organization because they paid him a super 282 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: Lotto prize two. 283 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty two and a half million dollars. 284 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: But now the pressure, the heat is really on Justin 285 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: Herbert five year extension, and we know that Justin Herbert 286 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: has been putting up some crazy stats, but it hasn't 287 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: led to the ultimate team success despite them making the 288 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: playoffs last year. I popping stats. We get it, and 289 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: they got a loaded roster. The Chargers are stacked. But 290 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about what the Chargers were thinking. 291 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: Here's a quote. 292 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: If I know one thing, our players, front office coaches. 293 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: We believe in him one hundred percent. That's from the 294 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: general manager Tom to LESCo. He's a perfectionist. And how 295 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: much he does in preparation for his job. I've been 296 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: around all the great quarterbacks have that as far as 297 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: they what they do in the building to prepare for 298 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: the next opponent and the amount of work into it. 299 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: Then combine that with his physical ability, I ain't lying. 300 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: We're extremely lucky to have him. 301 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Yes, they're talking about Herbert and betting on Herbert Big 302 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: to take them to a place they've never been, which 303 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: is winning a super Bowl. But at least get us 304 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: to somewhereere we've been once in our history, sixty four 305 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: years of existence. One time they appeared in the Super Bowl. 306 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Y'all remember when the charge within the Super Bowl? Yeah, 307 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: it was forgetable. Oh San Francisco tilted on them. Boyd 308 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I forget that final score fifty something to twenty or 309 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: something like that. It's crazy. So Herbert three seasons, let's 310 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: talk about him. His stats and his records are insane. 311 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Little trivia right here, who has the most passing yards 312 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: through a player's first three NFL seasons in NFL history? 313 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: History. You know every quarterback you can ever name him? Too? 314 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Yup that one too? Who has the most charts? Justin 315 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: Herbert Herbie? 316 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Okay, only player NFL history to throw for four thousand 317 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: yards in each of his first three seasons. Still Herbie, 318 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: he joins Peyton Manning good company. Let's just say that 319 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton man as the only quarterback 320 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: to pass for twenty five touchdowns in each of his 321 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: first three NFL seasons. Yes, that's Justin Herbert. Ah, Now 322 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: I can hear y'all? 323 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: Right now, all of those stats are cool, All of 324 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: those stats are cute. 325 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Didn't hear Patrick Mahomes's name in there? Despite Patrick mahons 326 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: being the best quarterback right now? So how can we 327 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: make sense of these stats? Because all of that says 328 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: you should be the best. 329 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: But you may be one. 330 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: Of the best, but your team is not having the 331 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: ultimate success, so therefore, how good are you? That's the 332 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: conversation that circulates around Justin Herbert. He saw him last 333 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: year have the shoulder injury at the end of the season. 334 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: It was his non throwing arm shoulder, so therefore he 335 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: had the postseason surgery. Played with fractured Ribs still put 336 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: up some crazy stats, but it's not about Herbert because 337 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: the me I come from that mindset, like before I 338 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: can worry about wins and losses. 339 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: I gotta do my job. And sometimes people look at 340 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: that selfishly. 341 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: It's like, nah, I gotta go out there and get 342 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: sacks from Herbert. I gotta get yards, I gotta get points, right, 343 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I gotta completion percentage that's high. I gotta do my 344 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: part and then it's gonna add up through osmosis for 345 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: us to have team success. But somehow, some way, people 346 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: get lost in that when they talk about quarterbacks. 347 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: Ah, how good is he? 348 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: They ain't one, and then you show him somebody who 349 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: does win with a quarterback, you don't think that good. 350 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Like let's say Eli when you know or Mark Sanchez 351 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: who kept going to the AMC Championship game, people killing them, 352 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, is it he is good 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: because he got the stats or he's not good because 354 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the stats. 355 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: That's simple, But what about this one? They are actually 356 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: doing well as. 357 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: A team, But is he that good? And y'all like 358 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: uh uh? And then what is justin Herbert fit in there? 359 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: So that's the conversation. But look at the team he 360 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: got this year, were about to tilt. You got Kellen 361 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: Moore now as your offensive coordinator, new juice calling the place. 362 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: We got Keenan Allen, Mike Williams coming back on those 363 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: restructured deals. Quentin Johnson got drafted in the first round. 364 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Enough though, receiver Austin Ekeler got his deal amended and 365 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: he got some new incentives to go chase it. We 366 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: got Trey Pipkins the second, We got Rashawn Slater coming 367 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: back from injury. You got Bosa Khalil Mack, Eric Kendricks 368 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: and dirt when James is coming back. 369 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: What's the problem. What's the excuses here? 370 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: No excuses, because now you got Herbert, who is now 371 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat, comfortably secure with that seat belt 372 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: on for five years, knowing he's leading this franchise. So 373 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: they put a huge bet on Justin Herbert. Y'all think 374 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: that's a smart bet because I do. And if you 375 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: can't bet on Justin Herbert doing his job like he 376 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: has done his job so far in his career, then 377 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: who can you bet on? 378 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: Right a sure bet? Well, Patrick Mahomes is already taken 379 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: a sure bet. 380 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Is there another quarterback Josh Allen that's a sure bet? 381 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who's up next to get his money? Sure bet? 382 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: But where are the sure bets? If you're talking about 383 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: team success? 384 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: I named those. 385 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't even name Lamar Jackson if you're talking about 386 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: a sure bet. But then when you start talking about now, 387 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: he's just a baller. He always gonna do his job, 388 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: justin Herbert is in that conversation. I just hope that 389 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: it finally materializes for a team success. So y'all can 390 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: stay off my boy, Herbie, because the dude is a 391 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: top five quarterback in my book. My question is is 392 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: he a top five quarterback in your book? And do 393 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: you think the Chargers are really a Super Bowl contender 394 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: this season? Y'all better say yeah, because this show gonna 395 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: be nothing but Charger game videos of me clowning around 396 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: with Herbert in the background, just acting a donkey because 397 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: we love going to those games. 398 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: And do y'all think they're gonna win a Super Bowl? 399 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: Maybe not this year, but within the five years of 400 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: this new contract, this new deal. 401 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: What y'all think about those Chargers? Lights out? 402 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: Remember that the Shan Merriman dance or the junior say 403 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: our boom or the Wiley buck the boat boy, my 404 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: chargers need to get over that hump. Damn you wrote 405 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: a book, Yes I did. Damn you want this book? 406 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: Be a member Friday swag away? What else we got 407 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: up in chill? 408 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 409 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Boy, got my breakdown of my stats and everything on 410 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: these playing cards. 411 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: It's yours. Damn, that's a whole lot. That's too many 412 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: right there. And we got this straight out of Jersey 413 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: Wiley right here. Man, you imagine Justin Herbert my quarterback, Godly. 414 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: Joe Boso on that side, Wiley on this side, coming 415 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: around the corner, getting those quarterbacks. 416 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish just for the money alone. All right, 417 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: let's talk about sa Kwon Barkley speaking the money, because man, 418 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: I read this headline. I said, oh, I gotta talk 419 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: about this right here. 420 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: They said he hurt every NFL running back with his 421 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: hilariously bad extension. Now why did that grab me? Why 422 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: do you hit dogs? 423 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: Holler? 424 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: Because when I saw that Sa Kwon Barkley signs a 425 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: new deal, you know you're watching ESPN breaking news. I 426 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh, what happened? Sa Kwon Barkley signs 427 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: a new deal. I expected, you know, five years, something 428 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: like sixty something, seventy something, and I saw one year. 429 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: And then the player repping me, the former player in me, 430 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: was like, one year on a franchise. 431 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: TWN, you sign in one year. I was like, oh, 432 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: and then I saw. 433 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: Then I thought after I saw one year, I was 434 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna see thirty three million or something stupid. I saw 435 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: one year eleven million or something. I was like, oh, 436 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: that's all bad. But I'm gonna have to dive into 437 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: this and take y'all through this. So he was supposed 438 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: to be like Saquon, this agent of change, as they said. 439 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Right. 440 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: He was the first to break his silence about the 441 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: running back pay controversy. I remember that in the off season, 442 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: saying he would sooner sit out than be underpaid. 443 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: I'd rather sit out. 444 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Y'all ain't gonna play me like that unless y'all pay 445 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: me like that. I was all right, say say it 446 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: with your big thighs, right. And then two days later, 447 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: after the league has the top rushers all on zoom, 448 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: led by Chargers Austin Eckler, who had his contract commended 449 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: this off season because he was kicking up some dust. 450 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, they discussed their. 451 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: Wo FO pay system and they had a coordinated response 452 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: which was seeming like they were unified as a unified front. 453 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: But then two days after that, he signs that eleven 454 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: million deal with a two million dollars signing bonus. I 455 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this is all bad, but the devil 456 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: is in the details. Let's go here. This is one 457 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: of and I'm quoting a lot of this, but I'm 458 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: feeling the same way most ill advised nonsensical contracts from 459 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: a player perspective in recent memory. Yes, I am not 460 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: going in on him. I'm going in on it, and 461 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: it is what you signed this deal? 462 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: WHOA. Not only did he give up all his leverage. 463 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm gonna walk with me, y'all, but he 464 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: mortgaged away his future leverage all for a lateral contract. 465 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Remember that he was offered a one year, ten million 466 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: dollar deal, so he got a lateral contract with escalators. 467 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: That he probably won't hit. All right, contracts so bad. 468 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: That is truly mystifying that him and an agent would 469 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: sit there, look at these terms and actually say, yeah, 470 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: let's do this right now, especially after everything we've been 471 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: through this off season, right, why would he accept this 472 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: h when he was the one so adamant about I 473 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: ain't gonna go. 474 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: Out there and get played. Unlet sy'all pay me. 475 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: So the franchise tag was ten point zero nine, he 476 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: ends up getting eleven million. Oh but that franchise tag, 477 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: if he would have signed, it would allowed him to 478 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: be a free agent in twenty twenty four or be. 479 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: Tagged just once more with a huge pay raise. Right. 480 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: But that was the deal he didn't sign, and that 481 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: was the deal he found unacceptable, and that was the 482 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: deal we thought he was gonna hold out over. 483 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: But now he signs this deal. 484 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's the same deal, one year, ten point zero nine, 485 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: with the base and the performance bonuses of this three 486 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: hundred and three thousand dollars random if he runs for 487 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and fifty yards three hundred and three thousand dollars, 488 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: if the Giants make the playoffs, three hundred and three 489 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. If he records eleven total touchdowns, three hundred 490 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: and three thousand dollars, if he records sixty five receptions. 491 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Now let's note why did they pick all those numbers 492 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: and why did he agree to those numbers. Barkley's never 493 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: rushed for thirteen hundred and fifty yards, So that's one 494 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: they thinking they gonna win. We'll see, he's recorded eleven 495 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns only once in his career. 496 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: Tough one again, We'll see he. 497 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Hasn't caught sixty five passes since his rookie year, and 498 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: last year he was only targeted seventy six times. So 499 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: either they gonna target you a lot more you better 500 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: not drop no balls, or else you ain't gonna get 501 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: that and send them either and heard of the money 502 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: is tied to the Giants making the playoffs in the 503 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: NC East that the Eagles and the Cowboys still exist 504 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: in and who knows what's gonna happen there this year? 505 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Why because their schedule is much harder this year than 506 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: it was last year when they made the playoffs. Okay, 507 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: so all of this, you could say, all right, Marcella's 508 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: you making a bunch of noise about not that much 509 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: ready for this. 510 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: Here's the kicker. He gave up the ability to become. 511 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: A free agent in twenty twenty four by signing this deal. 512 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: They reset the franchise tagger again. So now say Kwan 513 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: gets the same deal basically that he was gonna hold 514 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: out for but next year if he balls, guess what 515 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: they do, franchise tag him. Guess where he is, exactly 516 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: where he was just a week ago, about a week 517 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: ago that Bobby smurt up in it. 518 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: Huh, And then they can tag them again. 519 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: Now they don't waste it two years of your prime 520 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: on franchise tags, and you wasted one year signing the 521 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: lateral deal. So that's three years from now we'll be 522 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: looking at, say quantum out. You ain't get exactly what 523 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: you deserve, but you got a lot. I don't sneeze 524 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: at the franchise tag you, but dns get paid a 525 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: whole grip. So I think the franchise tag for a 526 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: DN is north of twenty some million dollars. You tell me, 527 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: I get the average top salaries of the top five 528 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: guys at DN. 529 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: Even though I'm gonna act like in public, h what 530 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: y'all doing? 531 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: Which I'll doing? Oh come on, man, give your money. 532 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Me and my agent talking. I'm like, I can live 533 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: off that franchise tag because they go only do it once. 534 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: Oh they could do it twice and then that's it. 535 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: So I can make two years forty to fifty million dollars. 536 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: And then hit them over the head for. 537 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: That big deal. But I'm a DNA. My prime is 538 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: longer than even the running backs. Damn say kwan, man, 539 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: this is messed up. This deal set them cats back. 540 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: They were talking all that before, how they were gonna 541 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: try and change in adjust to market, and Nick Chubb 542 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: kept it real. 543 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: He like, what can we do for real? 544 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Stop playing dog, and I'm gonna tell y'all why this 545 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: is a horrible deal. Not only is it the numbers, 546 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: but you know that whole like fake tough stance that 547 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna take, you know, man, like what what what? 548 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: You know? 549 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: Everybody talks about their stance until it's time to stand. 550 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: And I am not slighting, say quonferencaying, hey bro, I 551 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: ain't gonna mess around and miss eleven million dollars. But 552 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: that stance you took is different than the stand you 553 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: took right there because money talks, and no money I 554 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: get it, eleven million dollars. No money talks even louder 555 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: than money talks, right, So you're like, man, I can't 556 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: be losing out on this money. But you know what, 557 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: messed this all up and I'm just gonna keep it real. 558 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: Undrafted low round running backs coming into the league and 559 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: balling out of control. Messed it up for the guys 560 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: at the top, messed it up for the big dogs, right, 561 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: because you can never let a player that's perceived less 562 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: than you do as well or more than you, because 563 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: guess what they're gonna say to you, You ain't worth it. 564 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: I go get anybody to do that. They start thinking 565 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: that you're a dime a dozen't right. So team constructors, 566 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: they not stupid. They sit there and say you're replaceable. 567 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: Not just you, but that position is replaceable. It's a 568 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: passing league, so you're already secondary to the passing game. 569 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: And there are guys that are four, fifth, sixth, seventh 570 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: undrafted that we can go get and not pay top 571 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: dog who is in his prime or exiting his prime. 572 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: So I just look at it all, like, man, this 573 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: is all bad. 574 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: You look at a quarterback, a good quarterback, you never 575 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: think he's replaceable. A good quarterback, you hold on to 576 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: him for dear life, like a real good quarterback. Tough 577 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: sledding right here. So y'all where y'all on this deal? 578 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: Will say, I feel bad, man. I hate to see 579 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: somebody get got like that. Why did you why did 580 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: we see Saquan sign this deal? Like, just give me 581 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: something in the comments that I could hang my hat 582 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: on and understand that. And did he screw the other 583 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: running backs in the same position, in the same situation, 584 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: like Josh Jacobs, you know, Josh Jacobs on the phone. 585 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: Like, what the hell is going on right now? Hey? 586 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: Sa Kuan? He texting them all kind of memes, right 587 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: you're like, d you tripping Jordan crying memes all that, 588 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: and man, my last one is y'all think this is 589 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: ever gonna get fixed? 590 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Or the running backs dunes A fullbacks? Hey, fullbacks? Here 591 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: we come running backs with them as well? Right to 592 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: the football Player Salary Cemetery SAA SaaS state of affairs. 593 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Hopefully you bawled out Squan and go get your money again. 594 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: Boy double Dutch who used to double Dutch out there? 595 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: I got third place in the third grade in double 596 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Dutch in the whole school. Now I broke barriers. I'm 597 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: a pioneer. You want to know why, pretty obvious. I 598 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: was the only boy in the competition and I got 599 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: third place. Like all these girls out there doing it 600 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: with their little beads in their head, they do it 601 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: all that, and I was like, y'all doing too much movie. 602 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I was just like that call was running that track. Basically, 603 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: they were like, damn Marcells can double dutch. It was weird. 604 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: They was like, Yo, where he get that kind of coordination? 605 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: I was like, uh, run on track, y'all, silly out there? 606 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: Where's my metal? I should get a medal for being 607 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: a pioneer of double dutch right there? If we get 608 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: this book right here, if you're a Whiley's world member, 609 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: also get some of these playing cards, playing cards, or 610 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: you can get this jersey, not Or, and damn I'm cheap. 611 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: I keep trying to go back to Or, and you 612 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: can get this jersey. All you gotta do is say, hey, Marcellus, 613 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: you're going over one hundred K this exact day and 614 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: this exact time. All right, y'all, let's get into some 615 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: future conversation, cause we're gonna funk up folk up some comments. Yeah, 616 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: let's get to Cam Newton, who rips a young fan 617 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: in the video. He said, when I grew up, he 618 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: didn't disrespect those older let alone a professional athlete preach. 619 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: We didn't care if they want a ring or not. 620 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: They are the one percent of the one percent this 621 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: generation doesn't get that, and Cam gave him exactly what 622 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: he was looking for. Hey man, man, these kids today, 623 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: God dog was wrong with y'all. I mean, I'm generalizing 624 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: to the fullest, but damn it, y'all shouldn't let me 625 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: be in a position to generalize. If I see another 626 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: person walking up to somebody unqualified, what they merriage? They 627 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: ain't did what he did, and you ain't gonna even 628 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: get a chance, probably to do what he did on 629 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: your best day. It's his worst day, and you got jokes. 630 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Woo whoo. 631 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that same kid when he 632 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: don't make it. I'm gonna yah, yeah, do whatever you're 633 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna do in life. He successful, homie, but you ain't 634 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna make it in the league. 635 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: And then if you. 636 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Don't, which is the statistics, the odds, I ain't even predicting, 637 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: hell on you, just the fact of the matter. Cam 638 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: Newton not only did he make it, he was the 639 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: best player in the league. 640 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: NFL MVP for one year. Y'all got jokes? Who follow 641 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: that kid? For me? Y'all? I'm gonna find that kid. 642 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: I can't wait till be twenty one when he graduated college, 643 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: I'd be like, what row did you get drafted? Oh? 644 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: And if he hey, prove me wrong. That's the challenge 645 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: right here, pull me wrong. I give you this book. 646 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: Let me stop. All right, let's go to this one before. 647 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: I can't stand these kids. 648 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Professional athletes should not engage in this sort of behavior. 649 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: Just ignore it. Well, was then say more about the 650 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: hecklers that Cam interesting. Makes Cam look petty. Doing that 651 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: shows the fan got under his skin and Cam has 652 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: low self esteem. Oh my god, really, by Cam engaging 653 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: in this, the fan actually won. Oh I'm sorry to 654 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: hear this from you, cause you're coming from a perspective 655 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: that you're looking up to Cam Newton instead of looking 656 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: at Cam Newton and just respecting what Cam Newton has 657 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: done as you see him. There's a difference, Like Cam 658 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: Newton is still a human being, so guess what he's 659 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: allowed to feel things, He's allowed to respond to another. 660 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: Human being, and that energy can be transferred, right. 661 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. 662 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: Only time that gets skewed is when we think higher 663 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: of you than that that said Cam Newton didn't look 664 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: bad in that situation. Cam Newton didn't start that situation. 665 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: That kid had jokes to me, unmerited jokes. Yeah, he 666 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't win a Super Bowl. Oh so what you see 667 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley? 668 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: Oh where your rings at? You? 669 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Imagine how dumb you sound walking up to Charles Barkeley 670 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: talking about how many rings he wont You're like, well what? 671 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: And Charles Barkley would have been a lot different than 672 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Let's just say it wouldn't have been as 673 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: nice as Cam Newton. So I'm not with that right there. 674 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: Let's get to Michael Jordan who tipped only five hours. 675 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: He got five on it, though workers should get paid 676 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: properly in the first place and not rely on tips. 677 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Hey, man, like this whole industry is shot. Like y'all, 678 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, hold on, you got a boss. 679 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: But instead of coming at him and pressing him and 680 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: changing that industry or getting a union or something, y'all 681 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: coming at me with the side eye because I'm not 682 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: giving you twenty percent cause you didn't bring the fries 683 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: out when they were still hot. Like I just mean, 684 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: lord man, we can't get into this all right, So 685 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: member comment below. 686 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: It's my man Gringo Starr. 687 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: Who says hai, I didn't think you get into a 688 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: conversation about tipping, but hey, since we are here, I'll 689 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: give my two cents cheap asss good joke. I tip 690 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 1: everyone from fast food workers, bartenders, delivery folks, shoot, even 691 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: tip strippers. If a private dance was nice, how could 692 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: it ever not be nice? My point, tipping at a 693 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: place I frequent generally gets me remembered and treated better 694 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: as a customer. 695 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: That's facts. 696 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: You get burned every once in a while for tipping. 697 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: I tip based on performance, professionalism, etc. I never leave 698 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: people nothing, though generally an act of kindness goes a 699 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: long way. Man, that's loose calling that kindness, but go ahead. 700 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: Vegas does have different tipping rules because it is such 701 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: a service oriented city. If I'm at the tables, I'll 702 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: tip more so the cocktail waitress will keep coming back 703 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: and serving them drinks. Marcellus, are you a Hennessy dude 704 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: or a cavasier man? Let's get a sponsorship for the channel. 705 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: So it sound like you work for one of them companies, 706 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: if not both of them companies. And frankly, that's not 707 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: my favorite dark liquor. 708 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: I like me whiskey I'm a whiskey man, yes, or reposado. 709 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: I like reposado. But you know my favorite drink is alcohol, 710 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: so I love all types. So I take that as well. 711 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: Interesting points you made right there, that's the whole thing. 712 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: Is it kindness tipping or is it obligation tipping? 713 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Like we're trying to figure out that and you illuminated 714 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: some of that. All right, Just get the Pat McAfee 715 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: show to ESPN Radio. I genuinely think most of the 716 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: reason Pat went to ESPN was to not have to 717 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: pay for their sports rights such as NFL. 718 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: NBA highlights, etc. 719 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Since ESPN already provides that interesting which he catered the 720 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: new studio for. So the show going to audio only 721 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: or primarily is just a dumb. 722 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: Move from all parties involved. 723 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: Hen let's see that. Nah dumb is strong one every 724 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: show itusts. Let me tell you what's happening with Skip 725 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: Bayless right now and his show when they're two month hiatus. 726 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: They are testing that show, testing. 727 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: People people who may be on the show going forward 728 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: or may not. I tested for Sports Nation day one. 729 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I was never gonna be on Sports Nation Day one. 730 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: It was Colin Coward and Michelle Beatle. I tested with 731 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Max Kellerman. Max Kellerman wasn't gonna be on Sports Nation. 732 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: It was Colin Coward and Michelle Beatle. So the point 733 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: is they're just trying to figure it out. Is it 734 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: a science? No, you just feel comfortable, then you stay 735 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: release it and then as soon as you put it 736 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: out there, you also learn from how you're receiving it 737 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: as viewers, and then once they see that, they make 738 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: more edits. This show, Never Shut Up has changed from 739 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: hello to right now. Right started off Jean Brinckinsonari was 740 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: doing it, then it was just me, then it was 741 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Mikey p Then it's. 742 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 2: Back to me. I don't know who next, Gotta find somebody, 743 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: maybe Max Kellerman. That's the point. No slight to anything. 744 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: Yes, you always are weaving trying to find that secret 745 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: sauce that is so hard to find. All right, last 746 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: comment right here, Pat show was so successful because it 747 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: wasn't ESPN or Fox. 748 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: That's the only reason it was different. 749 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: And they cussed and far more enjoyable than first Take 750 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: or undisputed. 751 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: I hear you. I want to be positive, but give 752 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: it some time and it will be like every other show. 753 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: Damn y'all. 754 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: Got a doomsday scenario for this dude. Man, I'm rooting 755 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: for him even if y'all right, I'm rooting for him. 756 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him because he was the guy that 757 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: they told no, you can't work at ESPN and on 758 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: that level. 759 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: And why am I rooting for him Because I was there. 760 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: I was on that level he was trying to get 761 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: to and this sucker them past me broom by a 762 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: thousand times, and I applauded. I told you, the way 763 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: I get jealous is I'm coming to get you, not 764 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: you come back to me. Keep running, go pack, keep going. 765 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: So the go pat is ESPN go back. They went from. 766 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: Nah, dog, you can't even be on NFL Live too. 767 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: We'll pay you eighty five million dollars to come here 768 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: and do whatever you want to do and some of 769 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: what we want you to do. 770 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: Come on, y'all salute the man just for that. 771 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, let's talk about a Hall of 772 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: Famer right here. I want to see if we got 773 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: my man Cobra in the building. You know, he had 774 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: two time champion this week alone, and Cobra comes out 775 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: the corner. 776 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 3: Hey, it feels good feed back, man. I have to 777 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: rock through all white tea today, So you can't make 778 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: fun of me. You know I'm not sensitive either way, 779 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: but you know I'm just saying I love it. 780 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: Man, you look fresh too. Let's do all right? Man? 781 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: So you know what today is? Would you rather Wednesday? 782 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: So here's an example. I'll ask you, would you rather? 783 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: A question like would you rather go a week using 784 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 3: the Beyonce Lemonade diet or a week without internet? Which 785 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: is a tough one, but I've done both right, and 786 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 3: you can respond with something like the Beyonce diet. Of course, 787 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 3: I don't know how Corpra went the whole week without 788 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: the internet, so it'll play like that. 789 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I've never went a week without 790 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: the internet, So yeah, that diet, I've done that. Die 791 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: before it's hell, but I go back to hell. No Internet, 792 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: that's killer, all right man? 793 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: So here we go. So it's two of your former teams. 794 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 3: One has only won in the AFL and one has 795 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: the storied history of winning Super Bowls. Who would you 796 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: rather see win the Super Bowl this year? The Buffalo 797 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: Bills or the Dallas Cowboys. 798 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh thank god, thought you gonna say Buffalo or San Diego. 799 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: I'll gonna have a choice talking about it. Yeah, Buffalo 800 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: Dallas too easy. Buffalo like Dallas to me, I don't 801 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: look at Dallas like everybody else does, Like when they 802 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: gonna win again, I'm like, well, you mean again? They 803 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: already they men. I remember winning three out of four. 804 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: I was like, that's good for my lifetime and everybody. 805 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all on ball time because Jerry doesn't did it. 806 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: But then when I look at Buffalo, I'm like, don't. 807 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 2: I don't see it. 808 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: They have nothing to show for that in terms of 809 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trophy. So give them their first instead of 810 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: giving Dallas what they're fifth or something like that. 811 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm good, go to Buffalo. 812 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, but I you know, I'm rooting 813 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. Man. I'm tired of all of hate 814 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: on Dak. And even Mike McCarthy said this is his 815 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: most talented team he ever had, So it's not even 816 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 3: on Dak. It's really on him now, and he put 817 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 3: it on himself. So you know, I want to see 818 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: them pull it out. 819 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 2: Oh that's a death sentence when someone says talent, I e. 820 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: Let me tell you why. 821 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: The most talented players you've ever seen in any sport 822 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: from birth to now. There's some of those guys on 823 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: that list that didn't go pro like I know, for me, 824 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: the most talented guys I see Stas Bozeman, are Obie 825 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: Moore in track, let's go, Keith walk Green and football 826 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: y'all mean, I know them names, man, them suckers with 827 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: ten times better than me and what I played, but 828 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: they didn't make it. 829 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: So I'll never go that talent game. 830 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 3: Man. 831 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: It's like this gumbo of talent, chemistry, professionalism, discipline, etc. 832 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: Point being Mike McCarthy, you're gonna have to convince me 833 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: more than just talent because that usually doesn't win it. 834 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 3: All right, all right, So the second question, the would 835 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: you rather? Would you rather start your NBA franchise with 836 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 3: Shaq and Kobe or Jordan Pippen or Stephan Durant all 837 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 3: in their prime? 838 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, oh, man, way in their prime? Jesus. Oh 839 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: they're so every one of them is going to attack 840 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: you differently. 841 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: But I would have to go with Kobe Shack because 842 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: Shaq was the most dominant, the yeah, the most unguardable specimen. 843 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: He wasn't even a man, he was a mammal under 844 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: that damn rim like dog. It just it looked like 845 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: Discovery Channel sometimes. How he just destroyed cats. 846 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: You're like, he eating that dude alive, So it would 847 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: be that. And then you got Kobe come on, mamble 848 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 2: marble in his zone insane. So that's too close to Jordan. 849 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: I take that. 850 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fine, and Pippin is amazing, But who 851 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna deal with Shaq and KD? My favorite player him 852 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: and Steph slightly redundant KD down in the block with 853 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: Shack ain't pretty? Uh yeah, it gotta be Kobe Shack. 854 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 2: What you smelling? 855 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, I agreet Kobe Shack easy. You know, the 856 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 3: one two punch inside and outside in their primes. I 857 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: agree with you on that one. I got a little 858 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 3: nervous when you start talking about PIV because you know 859 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 3: he'd be firing back on people, so you have to go. 860 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 2: We don't want to smoke on this show. Now. Hell, 861 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 2: I ain't getting no, man, I'm not good enough for 862 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 2: Scotty to fire back on He only he only hate 863 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 2: on the legends. 864 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: He don't hate on just the homie. So no, that's man. 865 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Coby. You know people are telling me 866 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: on the low lo like that dude Cobra Special when 867 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: he comes home. Man, they love the energy. 868 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 2: I don't try to want me to get comfortable. No, 869 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: you want me to be comfortable. 870 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,959 Speaker 3: So I'll come back over with the regular T shirts 871 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: that you get cloud of me. But hey, tomorrow is 872 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: a pickleball Thursday, so I'm gonna watch your show from 873 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 3: the sidelines, man, So have a good one. 874 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: Oh love Man, I can't wait to his ass and 875 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: some pick a ball. Somehow, someway we're gonna make that 876 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: work because I think I could get cod bro man. 877 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 2: All Right, y'all, y'all know how we ended every show. 878 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: We ended where a whiley is and if I could 879 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: speak god dag, let me get a little something. I'm 880 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 2: parts you ready for this. This hit me before, and 881 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: this is gonna hit y'all right now. 882 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: When you take things for granted, the things you are 883 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: granted get taken. Ah, whoa no lie there, oh man, 884 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: when you just like ah, I can skip square one 885 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: step one. 886 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm taking that for granted. 887 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: Oh guess what it's like almost like the universe says, 888 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: give me that back so I can remind you of 889 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: how precious this is. You know, the first example I 890 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: think about in sports softomore slumps, sophomore slumps is this 891 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: because your first year you're so nervous, Oh my god, 892 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm green, went behind the ears, what's gonna happen? And 893 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: you have success, beginner's luck, whatever you wanna call it. 894 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: Early as success, some guys fall victim to take in 895 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: this for granted whatever that this is football, basketball, sports life. 896 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 2: Second year at the company, Oh man, I killed it. 897 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: Last year, got my bonus, So I'm not gonna put 898 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: in the same amount of hours. Oh man, I killed 899 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: it last year. Rookie of the Year. Man, I ain't 900 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: even got a trip on that. Ill ain't know that coverage. 901 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: I ain't gotta work on that one. If you skip 902 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 1: square one, oh square one, gonna yell back, ay man, 903 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: come back here, get over here, we here for you, boy, 904 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: you gotta start all over again. 905 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: So don't take things for granted. 906 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Man. 907 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: I remember when I was playing. 908 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: The hardest part was having that success in those pats 909 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: on the back and still having to go back to 910 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: the drawing board, to the lab and figure out what 911 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna work on. 912 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm not a big believer that you learn more when 913 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: you lose. I don't like that. I like to learn. 914 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 2: When I'm winning, it feel good. But guess what, I'm 915 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 2: gonna keep going. 916 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: And people always say that, but then they don't check 917 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: themselves when they say that. 918 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: The legends they won a ton like you say Boat. 919 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: You saying Boat was so dominant on top of just 920 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: being the fastest man ever world record, of course, but 921 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: when was he losing? 922 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 2: No, but when was he learning? All the time he 923 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: was learning while he was winning. He ain't have to 924 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 2: lose to be like, you know what, I should pick 925 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 2: my knees up a little more. You know what I mean? 926 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 2: You know what I need to do. I need to 927 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 2: have better form down stretch. No sucker was winning and learning. 928 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, people, y'all need to stop because y'all 929 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: say these things, and then these kids hear these things, 930 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: and because they're so young, they think that's the law, 931 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: a natural law, when it's not true. I had a 932 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: kid on my team we've only lost one game in 933 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: the last two years, and he said, and I want 934 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: to quote him, but basically he's like, man, when we lose, 935 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna learn a lot about ourselves. 936 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a minute. First of all 937 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 2: when we lose, while we gotta lose. 938 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: Second of all, who said, ain't learning like we I'm 939 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: adding new plays every week, y'all doing better every week. 940 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, give yourself some credits. So just as simple, 941 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: when you take things for granted, the things you are 942 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: granted get taken. 943 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: All right, y'all gotta do it. 944 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: For more to It, check the show notes for all 945 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today. Want to keep 946 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: the conversation going, Let's talk. Find me on all socials 947 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: at Marcel's Wiley. More Too is a production of Dan 948 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media. Show is 949 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcell's Whilely, Paul Anderson, and 950 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: Nick Panella. 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