WEBVTT - Neville Bongbottom 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:08.840 Okay, so let's no no no no no no no 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.119 no no, you're sober. You're cool to drive? Are you 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.280 a good Stone driver? Well, I guess we're going to 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:22.800 find out when we leave here. Honey, honey, honey. Saw 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.360 is a generous way of putting it. I was out. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.480 I was. That is the most lit I have been 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.839 in eons. It was. It was embarrassed. I can't. I 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.919 woke up the next morning. I was embarrassed. Virgins For 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.240 for those of you who don't who may have missed 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.640 part of that conversation, apparently my co host and our 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.240 producer were hanging out without me in Los Angeles, and 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.239 Fran was wasted while it happened and doesn't even remember it, 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:56.520 so I don't care. Um anyways, I have to say, um, yes, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.880 I I was out. I embarrassed myself in front of 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:04.240 a professional colleague in an unprofessional way, because we keep 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.240 it really just squeaking it real professional over here, like 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.679 the way Phoebe just came back into the zoom chat 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.480 to glare at me, to say, to be like, you 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.840 think this is professional? Yeah? You all? If you follow 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.840 us at like a Virgin nine, you've seen the trans 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.480 lesbian cent our porn we send each other, which I 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.160 took me at least thirty minutes to censor. There was 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.679 so much to blur out. All that is to say, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.360 I'm like super hungover from the weekend. I was living 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:40.160 out of a suitcase from June through October Rose. My 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.920 suitcase was literally open, and I was traveling, traveling that's 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.240 really hard to my body. But when I came back, 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.520 I felt so disconnected from my l A fam And 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.360 so when I reached out to people and I was like, 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.440 I'm back in l A finally, like let's hang again, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.320 Let's go pregame, let's go to a drag show, let's 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.000 go to the strip show, whatever, and so that that's 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.240 what happened this weekend. Um, So I'm very However, that's 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.320 honestly something I can't relate to. I that's one one 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.440 of my favorite Yeah, one of my favorite things about 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:12.080 not drinking is not ever being hungover. But I feel 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.560 like it's hard to You're very good at navigating that 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.119 I don't drink thing. You're very just like I don't drink. Well, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.280 that's actually something that's only like pretty recent because you know, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.840 I like, I mean, as as i've talked about before. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.639 I used to work in nightlife, and drinking was really 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.480 just kind of like a social crutch, and not even 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.040 a crutch, it was more like a social prop because 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.160 it feels weird to be at a party and not 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.560 to have a drink in your hands, especially the kind 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.280 of parties I was at. But I've never really been 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.800 interested in drinking, but always felt like it was something 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.120 I needed to participate in socially. And then even when 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.480 I wasn't partying anymore, it still was like I would, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.840 you know, maybe have like a cocktail every once in 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.160 a while, or like a beer on vacation. But actually, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.160 since moving back to New York, I've been reconnecting with 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.800 people or like connecting with new people, and you know, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.760 the like go to if someone is like, yeah, let's 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.440 let's meet up for a drink, And what I just 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.520 started saying is, oh, I don't drink, but like, let's 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.880 meet up for coffee. And it actually has been really 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:21.520 nice for me to define it that way, because the 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.640 last thing I want to do is be at a 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.960 bar when I don't drink, because the worst thing you 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.040 can do is someone who's sober is be around people 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.520 who are drunk, and it's just nice to have that 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.080 finally defined and to not be in that sort of 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:42.400 like in between place. And I just don't ever want 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.440 to be around drunk people ever. Again. Yeah, I mean, 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.920 you're amazing at navigating it, Slash. You just do it 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.280 because I feel like most people would absorb what is 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.680 the really like icky reliance on alcohol in social spaces, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.880 especially queer social spaces, Like it's someone in a group 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.080 says I don't drink. I mean, I do think that 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.560 there's more respect for it now, like people are having 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.440 better conversations about sobriety, even though what you're doing is 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.520 not necessarily sobriety so to speak, in the way it's 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.360 often associated like nowadays, but like a lot of times 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.279 people are like, you don't drink, but like why but 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.919 like just one drink? Like are you going to have 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.599 a mocktail but like still be with us? Or like 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.160 people really feel like if you're not drinking, then like 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.400 we can't have fun Like and yeah, I don't feel 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.840 like that at all. Like I'm if I'm out at 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.360 a dinner and people are drinking, I don't feel any 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.680 type of way for it. It's more I mean as 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.120 Kim Control famously said, I don't ever want to be 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.240 in a situation. I don't want to put myself in 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:46.279 a situation where people are gathered with the explicit purpose 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.880 to drink and get drunk. I understand that we live 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.440 in a world in which people drink alcohol in social situations. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.920 That's fine, But I'm not trying to be in social 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:01.359 situations that only exist because of alcohol. Extremely curious on 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.200 your answer to this, what are your thoughts on mocktails. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.400 I'm totally about mocktails. I actually have started asking at 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.520 restaurants when people are ordering drinks if they have them 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.680 or one of my go two's has now become getting 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:21.560 a seltzer with bidders, which is a lovely, lovely little beverage, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.000 or you know, like a brunch getting a juice or something. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.840 Love that. Okay, we love a juice moment. But I'm 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.480 also just fine drinking water, I don't know, that's whatever, 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.400 or or a Coca Cola. Yeah, I mean, I know. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.800 I honestly like being in l a where you have 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.599 to drive everywhere. I've like welcomed the fact that, like 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.640 I can't drink because I have to drive, you know, 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.640 Like I like drinking in certain scenarios, but like, I 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.720 don't really want to drink every time I go out, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.520 Like it's just not necessary a lot of the time 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.160 in order for me to have fun. And yeah, I'm 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.320 glad that, like, you know, more and more people are 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:58.560 figuring out, like what their relationship to alcohol is. On 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.800 the on the of figuring things out, you might have 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.320 noticed that this is a slightly different discussion than the 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.240 ones we normally have at the beginning of our episodes, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.880 and that is because, you know, after a year of 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.279 doing the show, and we have now been doing like 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.640 a Virgin for a year, and we recently found out 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.080 that in that time we've had over half a million downloads, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:25.039 which is incredible showstopping. Um, we are thinking a little 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:30.839 bit about how to reinvigorate the show and make it 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.440 more enjoyable for us and more enjoyable for you the listeners, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.440 because as much as we love obviously consuming media, that 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.000 is like the whole point of this podcast is talking 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.440 about media and what it means to us. The news 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.000 segment at the beginning of the episodes especially, is starting 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.440 to feel a little formulaic, starting to feel a little 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.760 bit so much like we are showing up with lists 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.680 of things that we have to have takes on rather 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.640 than very like fill in the blanks yeah times and 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:05.560 not like, you know, an organic conversation about ourselves our lives, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.880 and we would like it to maybe be more of that. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.400 But also we kind of want to try experimenting with 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.000 a few different ways to do this this opening segment, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.160 and we also want your opinion on what you think 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.760 it could be. Yeah, and not just the opening segment, 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.120 but just like just how the show is brought together 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.760 with that segment and how we make this show, like 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.320 we're thinking about you, the virgins, and also just like 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.040 what excites Rose and I and Phoebe and yeah, we 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.600 we want to do that with you. So, um, if 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.160 you have opinions on like, you know, what brings you 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.320 to the show? What episodes do you skip? Like, what 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.600 parts are your favorite, what are your least favorite? What 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.760 do you wish we talked about? Are things that you 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.360 wish that we could visit every week? I think we 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.400 want to hear from you, and so we are releasing 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.000 a survey. This is probably the only time we'll do this, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.920 So this is your opportunity that collights A bunch of 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.000 questions asking for feedback on the show, and now is 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.520 your opportunity to give it. Actually, like we really do 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.160 need you to give feedback, Like it'll help us so 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.240 much to shape this show and just to like move 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.560 into the next year. You can click that link in 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.680 the show notes. Maybe Rose and I will post it 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.760 on our social and as a little incentive, we'll be 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.679 giving a certified virgin hat to three lucky survey filler 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.400 outers picking at random. Uh, we haven't decided on a 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.760 deadline yet, but like we'll figure out a deadline just 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.400 for now. Make sure that you fill out this survey 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.839 ahead of the holidays, and I think over the next 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.079 couple weeks months, we will just be playing around with 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.520 the show and trying things out and seeing what sticks. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.240 And um, we you know, we love that you all 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.040 listen and are so passionate about the show, and um, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.440 you know, welcome us into your ears every week, and 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.480 we just want to make the best show possible, y'all, 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.600 and also the best show for us because we put 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.640 a lot of work into this and you know, we 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.079 want it to continue to be fun to do. Also, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.160 fran your hair is looking very share like right now. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.240 Oh my God, thank you. Yeah, it is giving a 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.640 little moonstruck, like the scene after she gets like the 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.600 little perm and she's like standing outside the opera. Thank you. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.040 That's like the nicest compliment anyone could ever give me. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.000 It is moonstruck season, after all, it is moonstruck season. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:35.600 And say that I did something really exhausting yesterday, which 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:42.240 is I walked around Soho on a Sunday afternoon. Oh God, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.960 why what for? Well, you know, I'm in the in 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.720 the middle of decorating my apartment. My best friend Ryan, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:54.120 who works in interior design, is doing my apartment for me, 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.400 And we had picked out a couch from crighton Barrel, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.200 but wanted to go see it in person and sit 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.840 on it before we ordered it. So we went to 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.000 the Crane and Barrel and Soho and the style of 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.280 couch that I want is the only one that they 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.720 don't have in store. And so it's always that way, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.880 isn't it. Yeah, So we like looked around for a while, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.840 didn't didn't really see anything else that was like met 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.720 the specific requirements we were looking for. And so then 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.360 after that we went to CB two, we went to 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:33.560 some other furniture stores and like Soho on a Sunday. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.160 It was very much giving. We were about to be 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.800 stopped by someone with a tiny microphone making a TikTok 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.320 like you and I had that time at the Grove. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.840 It's Billy on the street who it was, um and 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:50.079 we were We had plans to go to Brooklyn Museum 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.960 afterwards to see the Muclaire exhibit, but after after being 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.040 in Soho for a couple of hours, I just had 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.120 the last thing I wanted to do was go walk 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.720 around a muse him on a Sunday. No, so I 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:09.720 simply gave up and came home and finally finished season 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.920 five of The Crown. Oh wait, what did you think 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:17.360 of the end? You know? I, Um, I think it 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.199 should have ended with Diana dying. I like don't understand 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:26.199 why season five didn't end with Diana dying. And yeah, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.640 and also like they were really pushing approach charles agenda 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:35.240 this season is that it's so the categorical opposite of 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.280 last season. They're like, Charles is the progressive, Like look 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.719 at how like, you know, like forward thinking he is. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.320 I'm like what? And yeah, I was like I was 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.120 wondering if maybe it was because they were trying to 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.640 remain somewhat objective, but I think they swung too far 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.120 in the other direction, you know that being said, I 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.640 love the Crown, I as I just like, I will 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.440 watch however many hours of it are made. I just wonder, like, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.720 is the show going to end with like Megan recording 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.560 her podcast is not going to be the last seed 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:12.000 of the Crown? Not? No, yeah Megan with Oprah and Harry, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.440 um not Harry? Is that his name? I don't know 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.080 any of the royals names. Yeah, Harry, Harry us okay, 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.439 Frince Harry, that's the one. We also say that the 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.640 guy that plays Charles is way too hot. It is hot. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.839 It's it's not right, it's it's it's not right. I 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.480 honestly did not care about the royal family before the Crown, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.920 and I still don't care about I still don't. But 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.640 the thing is, this is the only thing that I 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.000 care about. The Crown. I don't care about I don't 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.720 care about the real people. I care about the Crown. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.720 Let's be very clear. I care about the Crown, not 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:48.520 the Crown as in her Royal Majesty's the Crown. Wait, 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.800 this is this is like okay, I'm gont it's okay. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.640 I was like, I was gonna text you this, but like, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.040 maybe this is podcast appropriate um in the vein of 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.160 our inndc's episode and also our porn episode the the 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.680 other night. Actually literally last night, I was, you know, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.200 looking at porn for no reason in Porture, and the 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.200 reason wasn't to come no, no, no, no, of course not. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:14.400 It was just recreational, like leisurely porn viewing rolling um 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:20.600 and the algorithm from my Twitter fed me an Indie 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.920 Slee's era Emo boy porn where they were wearing knee 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.280 high black and white striped leggings send it to me 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.600 right now, and they were wearing arm bands like black 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.000 and white like there before Christmas like arm bands and 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.120 like an emo. But it was so amazing to see 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:45.520 it for research purposes. It's probably an entire genre of porn. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:50.959 That porn is absolutely a thing. Oh my god. Okay, Well, anyways, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.000 I don't I honestly don't know if I will send 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.520 it to you. I think it's like, I think that's 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.120 like a professional boundary. Friend, there are there are no 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:04.280 professional I hate to break it to you, but those 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:09.440 don't exist. And thank God for it and God herself 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.679 but you know what, if I changed my mind about that, 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.359 you will be hearing from my attorney. Ak, my grandpa. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.080 It is your your grandpa, My grandpa is My grandpa 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.640 is my attorney. When I signed with my agent, I 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.200 sent the contract to my grandpa and he was like, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.800 he was like, I don't know anything about this, but 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.880 um looks good. That is a sketch. That's a character 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.640 in the show. It's like, and you'll be talking from 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:36.080 my attorney anyways, Nana, where you what's like the boy 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.720 version of Nana? I don't even what do people call 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.720 their grandpa, pops, Papa, Papa, Papa? You are like papa. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.880 I have several family members who listened to our podcast 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.960 and I had to I had to one of them. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.080 I had to explicitly tell not to listen to the 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.400 porn episode, and the other two told me that they 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:01.560 skipped it. Good. My my cousin Ali a thanks Giving, Um, Ali, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.440 if you're listening, love you. Um. You know, outed herself 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.560 to me as a virgin and said, but there are 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.560 some episodes that I do skip because they get a 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.400 little a little too. I don't think I should be 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.440 listening to this. And you know what, I love boundaries. Yeah, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.920 that sounds great. That's good for your cousin. I have 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.800 no family members that listen to this. Honestly, it's it's 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.160 my My relationships are stronger when my friends and family 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:30.000 don't listen to this podcast. Um, that's not totally true. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.680 I'm being facetious. I love it when people listen to 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:37.400 my podcast, our podcast. I I am very happy to 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.000 know that people who um have to hear me talk 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.360 in real life also want to hear me talk um 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.840 through their headphones. Do you ever do that thing though, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.520 where you're look at the You're like at like that, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.480 you know, at drinks quote unquote, like at dinner or something, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.120 and then you start telling a story that you told 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.600 on the podcast, and then you're like, oh wait, I 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.640 think someone here listens like they've already heard me tell this. Sorry, no, 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.600 because as we've established, I don't remember anything I've ever said. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:24.720 It doesn't apply, of course, of course, of course, I okay, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.520 I Oh my god, why am I going right there? 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.280 I get so lonely in l A. L A is 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:34.120 a lonely, lonely city, and weed makes me feel less alone, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.520 like all the time, Like it does. It sometimes make 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.080 you feel more alone, yes, of course, but like I 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.200 think that all of the positive things about weed at 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.320 the end of the day provide me a sense of 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.000 company because I'm basically talking to myself and making jokes 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.720 with myself and stuff like that, and I love that 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.400 and I love well it turns up the echo chamber 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.040 in your brain, so you have an audience. It's so 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.440 funny though, because like it does make my brain feel 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.320 is more fluid, like less anxious about what people have 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.520 to say, and then at the same time go on 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:10.160 these crazy anxious spirals. Does your like weed brain ever 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.680 go down like weird catastrophizing around something that would never happen. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.520 Of course, my sober brain does that too, but but 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.280 for me it's these like tiny little circles. Were just like, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:26.359 it'll catastrophize this paranoia. Mama, Yes, the paranoia is paranoying. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.760 Yeah yeah, But anyways, I didn't mean to go all 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.760 the way there, because weed is great. I love weed. Yeah, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.919 we're both already were Yes, okay, virgins. You know those commercials, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.560 it's like your this is you on Drudge, Yes, the 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.560 person who's melted into the cow. It's like, do you 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.520 promise I want that to be and honey, let's be real, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:50.520 that was me. That's me on kedemy and every time 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.560 I'm on oh my god. Yeah. No, weed does not 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.800 make you feel like I mean, maybe like a dank 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.600 Indica would make you feel like that, but I don't 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.280 think we'd should ever make you feel kind of neck like, 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.000 that's not my what do you How do you like 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:08.720 to feel on weed? I like, I like to feel relaxed, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:14.800 a little floaty, a little silly, and maybe it, depending 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.680 on time of day, kind of sleepy. I don't really 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.800 smoke weed to feel like up and social, although that's 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:26.440 definitely the way that I smoked weed for like most 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.080 of my twenties. But now I'm an Indica girl, you know, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.359 I want to be chill vibes. When did you smoke 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:38.480 weed for the first time? Room? I was a scene, 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.760 I want to say, a senior in high school. I 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.160 had basically I had been a nerd my entire like 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.919 like school career. Like. I went to the same school 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.400 from kindergarten to like high school and was a loser 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.280 all the way up until my last two years. And 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:54.919 I finally made friends with the cool kids that had 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.679 the weed, so we got like I think we smoked 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:05.240 in a park and listened to Grizzly Bear. That sounds beautiful. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.280 It was, it was great, But I remember being like, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.000 so it was more about the psychosomatic facts. I felt, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.280 you feel really sick, you feel really dizzy and anxious, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.600 like I feel like you usually feel like the negative 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.879 things with first experiences with weed, because you're probably smoking 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.800 bad weed. You know, we were in like high school, 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.959 what about you. The first time I smoked weed was 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.680 at camp, and I just kind of got very giggly. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.320 What kind of camp? Sleepweight camp? Oh, like a Jewish 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.439 sleep away camp. It was predominantly Jewish, but it was 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.080 you know, um not like it was secular. Yeah, it was, 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.439 it was secular, just curious. I feel like all my 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.520 friends have like a formative Jewish sleep away camp experience. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.080 It was where all my first were and weed was 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.560 one of them. And but then in high school was 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.359 probably the first time that I bought weed with the 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.840 intention to smoke it. And then, you know, very but 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.760 quickly became some one of a stoner, and then much 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.119 more so in college. I'm the opposite. I mean not 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.920 the opposite, but like I became a stoner, like I 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:14.520 did not really smoke weed that much up until I 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.520 moved last you were more of a pepper pepper girl. Yes, 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.600 I did not like what we did to my brain, 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.639 and like you know, I would like socially smoke sometimes 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.199 but usually not. And I even actually had these roommates 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.600 that were stoner's minds, and I hated the smell of 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.800 weed and hated weed in the house. And I was 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.040 such a fucking dork about a little narc Yeah, I 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.159 was like a little not I mean, never tattled, okay, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.360 but I but I was like, it was narc behavior. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:44.000 It was it was you were judgmental. It was narc passing, 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.080 not narc passing. Okay, big r A energy, Yeah, exactly. 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.879 I would make a great r A obviously. I think 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.560 I had more access to weed in college and freshman 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.439 year of college when I lived in a dorm. My 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.040 dorm was on fifty five Street in Midtown, and there 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.080 was a smoking spot that we used to go to 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:07.440 that was across the street from our dorm in like 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.320 a bank that was one corner of a city block, 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.960 and it had like a weird little like ramp with 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.200 a corner where everyone from our dorms went to smoke 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:19.000 weed and that like that's why I think things like 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.040 that is so much about weed, like when I was 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:23.800 a really big stoner, and I think for a lot 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.480 of people, so much about weed is the ritual of weed. 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.720 Where you smoke, how you smoke, you know, all of 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.480 the different paraphernalia. Yeah, that are I think your relationship 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.600 to like art and culture and like what you're consuming 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.640 while you're like there's just like a whole like ecosystem. 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.240 When I was younger, and this is how I think 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:47.639 I have changed with smoking weed is when I was younger, 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.080 weed was much more social, and now it has become 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.679 something that is more of a solitary thing, which is 0:21:54.800 --> 0:22:01.199 not as fun. Yeah, I us, no, it's not. I 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:07.600 mean I had a lot of I mean one like 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.520 I had a ball with weed alone because we had 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.399 to be alone in the pandemic and so like that 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.760 was just like a relationship like I built with myself, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.280 like with weed. Weird weirdly enough, but like so like 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.959 I actually have more experiences smoking alone than I do 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:27.320 have smoking like with people, probably, which is really weird 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.400 because I love smoking with people. But yeah, that's it's 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.760 just a consequence of like when I took it up, 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:34.760 so I'm kind of I was like the virgin to 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.879 eat almost Where can you roll a joint? Yeah? Absolutely, 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.840 because I used to roll me own cigarettes in college, 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.919 so it would probably be Yeah, I would rolled my 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.240 own cigarettes. I did that when I studied abroad in London. Girl, 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:52.800 I was rolling my own cigarettes without filters. Every awful 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.040