1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's no no no no no no no 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: no no, you're sober. You're cool to drive? Are you 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: a good Stone driver? Well, I guess we're going to 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: find out when we leave here. Honey, honey, honey. Saw 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: is a generous way of putting it. I was out. 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: I was. That is the most lit I have been 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: in eons. It was. It was embarrassed. I can't. I 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: woke up the next morning. I was embarrassed. Virgins For 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't who may have missed 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: part of that conversation, apparently my co host and our 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: producer were hanging out without me in Los Angeles, and 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Fran was wasted while it happened and doesn't even remember it, 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: so I don't care. Um anyways, I have to say, um, yes, 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I I was out. I embarrassed myself in front of 15 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: a professional colleague in an unprofessional way, because we keep 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: it really just squeaking it real professional over here, like 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: the way Phoebe just came back into the zoom chat 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: to glare at me, to say, to be like, you 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: think this is professional? Yeah? You all? If you follow 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: us at like a Virgin nine, you've seen the trans 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: lesbian cent our porn we send each other, which I 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: took me at least thirty minutes to censor. There was 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: so much to blur out. All that is to say, 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm like super hungover from the weekend. I was living 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: out of a suitcase from June through October Rose. My 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: suitcase was literally open, and I was traveling, traveling that's 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: really hard to my body. But when I came back, 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I felt so disconnected from my l A fam And 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: so when I reached out to people and I was like, 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm back in l A finally, like let's hang again, 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Let's go pregame, let's go to a drag show, let's 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: go to the strip show, whatever, and so that that's 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: what happened this weekend. Um, So I'm very However, that's 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: honestly something I can't relate to. I that's one one 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: of my favorite Yeah, one of my favorite things about 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: not drinking is not ever being hungover. But I feel 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: like it's hard to You're very good at navigating that 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: I don't drink thing. You're very just like I don't drink. Well, 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: that's actually something that's only like pretty recent because you know, 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I like, I mean, as as i've talked about before. 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: I used to work in nightlife, and drinking was really 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: just kind of like a social crutch, and not even 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: a crutch, it was more like a social prop because 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: it feels weird to be at a party and not 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: to have a drink in your hands, especially the kind 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: of parties I was at. But I've never really been 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: interested in drinking, but always felt like it was something 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I needed to participate in socially. And then even when 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't partying anymore, it still was like I would, 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe have like a cocktail every once in 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a while, or like a beer on vacation. But actually, 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: since moving back to New York, I've been reconnecting with 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: people or like connecting with new people, and you know, 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: the like go to if someone is like, yeah, let's 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: let's meet up for a drink, And what I just 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: started saying is, oh, I don't drink, but like, let's 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: meet up for coffee. And it actually has been really 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: nice for me to define it that way, because the 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: last thing I want to do is be at a 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: bar when I don't drink, because the worst thing you 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: can do is someone who's sober is be around people 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: who are drunk, and it's just nice to have that 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: finally defined and to not be in that sort of 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: like in between place. And I just don't ever want 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: to be around drunk people ever. Again. Yeah, I mean, 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: you're amazing at navigating it, Slash. You just do it 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like most people would absorb what is 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the really like icky reliance on alcohol in social spaces, 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: especially queer social spaces, Like it's someone in a group 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: says I don't drink. I mean, I do think that 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: there's more respect for it now, like people are having 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: better conversations about sobriety, even though what you're doing is 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily sobriety so to speak, in the way it's 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: often associated like nowadays, but like a lot of times 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: people are like, you don't drink, but like why but 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: like just one drink? Like are you going to have 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: a mocktail but like still be with us? Or like 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: people really feel like if you're not drinking, then like 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: we can't have fun Like and yeah, I don't feel 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: like that at all. Like I'm if I'm out at 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: a dinner and people are drinking, I don't feel any 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: type of way for it. It's more I mean as 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Kim Control famously said, I don't ever want to be 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: in a situation. I don't want to put myself in 85 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: a situation where people are gathered with the explicit purpose 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: to drink and get drunk. I understand that we live 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: in a world in which people drink alcohol in social situations. 88 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: That's fine, But I'm not trying to be in social 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: situations that only exist because of alcohol. Extremely curious on 90 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: your answer to this, what are your thoughts on mocktails. 91 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm totally about mocktails. I actually have started asking at 92 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: restaurants when people are ordering drinks if they have them 93 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: or one of my go two's has now become getting 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: a seltzer with bidders, which is a lovely, lovely little beverage, 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: or you know, like a brunch getting a juice or something. 96 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: Love that. Okay, we love a juice moment. But I'm 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: also just fine drinking water, I don't know, that's whatever, 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: or or a Coca Cola. Yeah, I mean, I know. 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I honestly like being in l a where you have 100 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: to drive everywhere. I've like welcomed the fact that, like 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: I can't drink because I have to drive, you know, 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Like I like drinking in certain scenarios, but like, I 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: don't really want to drink every time I go out, 104 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Like it's just not necessary a lot of the time 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: in order for me to have fun. And yeah, I'm 106 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: glad that, like, you know, more and more people are 107 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: figuring out, like what their relationship to alcohol is. On 108 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: the on the of figuring things out, you might have 109 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: noticed that this is a slightly different discussion than the 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: ones we normally have at the beginning of our episodes, 111 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: and that is because, you know, after a year of 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: doing the show, and we have now been doing like 113 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: a Virgin for a year, and we recently found out 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: that in that time we've had over half a million downloads, 115 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: which is incredible showstopping. Um, we are thinking a little 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: bit about how to reinvigorate the show and make it 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: more enjoyable for us and more enjoyable for you the listeners, 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: because as much as we love obviously consuming media, that 119 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: is like the whole point of this podcast is talking 120 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: about media and what it means to us. The news 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: segment at the beginning of the episodes especially, is starting 122 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: to feel a little formulaic, starting to feel a little 123 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: bit so much like we are showing up with lists 124 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: of things that we have to have takes on rather 125 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: than very like fill in the blanks yeah times and 126 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: not like, you know, an organic conversation about ourselves our lives, 127 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: and we would like it to maybe be more of that. 128 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: But also we kind of want to try experimenting with 129 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: a few different ways to do this this opening segment, 130 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: and we also want your opinion on what you think 131 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: it could be. Yeah, and not just the opening segment, 132 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: but just like just how the show is brought together 133 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: with that segment and how we make this show, like 134 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: we're thinking about you, the virgins, and also just like 135 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: what excites Rose and I and Phoebe and yeah, we 136 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: we want to do that with you. So, um, if 137 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: you have opinions on like, you know, what brings you 138 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: to the show? What episodes do you skip? Like, what 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: parts are your favorite, what are your least favorite? What 140 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: do you wish we talked about? Are things that you 141 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: wish that we could visit every week? I think we 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: want to hear from you, and so we are releasing 143 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: a survey. This is probably the only time we'll do this, 144 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: So this is your opportunity that collights A bunch of 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: questions asking for feedback on the show, and now is 146 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: your opportunity to give it. Actually, like we really do 147 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: need you to give feedback, Like it'll help us so 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: much to shape this show and just to like move 149 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: into the next year. You can click that link in 150 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: the show notes. Maybe Rose and I will post it 151 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: on our social and as a little incentive, we'll be 152 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: giving a certified virgin hat to three lucky survey filler 153 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: outers picking at random. Uh, we haven't decided on a 154 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: deadline yet, but like we'll figure out a deadline just 155 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: for now. Make sure that you fill out this survey 156 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: ahead of the holidays, and I think over the next 157 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: couple weeks months, we will just be playing around with 158 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: the show and trying things out and seeing what sticks. 159 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: And um, we you know, we love that you all 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: listen and are so passionate about the show, and um, 161 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, welcome us into your ears every week, and 162 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: we just want to make the best show possible, y'all, 163 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: and also the best show for us because we put 164 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of work into this and you know, we 165 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: want it to continue to be fun to do. Also, 166 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: fran your hair is looking very share like right now. 167 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh my God, thank you. Yeah, it is giving a 168 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: little moonstruck, like the scene after she gets like the 169 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: little perm and she's like standing outside the opera. Thank you. 170 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: That's like the nicest compliment anyone could ever give me. 171 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: It is moonstruck season, after all, it is moonstruck season. 172 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: And say that I did something really exhausting yesterday, which 173 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: is I walked around Soho on a Sunday afternoon. Oh God, 174 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: why what for? Well, you know, I'm in the in 175 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: the middle of decorating my apartment. My best friend Ryan, 176 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: who works in interior design, is doing my apartment for me, 177 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: And we had picked out a couch from crighton Barrel, 178 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: but wanted to go see it in person and sit 179 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: on it before we ordered it. So we went to 180 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: the Crane and Barrel and Soho and the style of 181 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: couch that I want is the only one that they 182 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: don't have in store. And so it's always that way, 183 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, So we like looked around for a while, 184 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: didn't didn't really see anything else that was like met 185 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the specific requirements we were looking for. And so then 186 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: after that we went to CB two, we went to 187 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: some other furniture stores and like Soho on a Sunday. 188 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: It was very much giving. We were about to be 189 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: stopped by someone with a tiny microphone making a TikTok 190 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: like you and I had that time at the Grove. 191 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: It's Billy on the street who it was, um and 192 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: we were We had plans to go to Brooklyn Museum 193 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: afterwards to see the Muclaire exhibit, but after after being 194 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: in Soho for a couple of hours, I just had 195 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: the last thing I wanted to do was go walk 196 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: around a muse him on a Sunday. No, so I 197 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: simply gave up and came home and finally finished season 198 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: five of The Crown. Oh wait, what did you think 199 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: of the end? You know? I, Um, I think it 200 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: should have ended with Diana dying. I like don't understand 201 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: why season five didn't end with Diana dying. And yeah, 202 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: and also like they were really pushing approach charles agenda 203 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: this season is that it's so the categorical opposite of 204 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: last season. They're like, Charles is the progressive, Like look 205 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: at how like, you know, like forward thinking he is. 206 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm like what? And yeah, I was like I was 207 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: wondering if maybe it was because they were trying to 208 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: remain somewhat objective, but I think they swung too far 209 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: in the other direction, you know that being said, I 210 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: love the Crown, I as I just like, I will 211 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: watch however many hours of it are made. I just wonder, like, 212 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: is the show going to end with like Megan recording 213 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: her podcast is not going to be the last seed 214 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: of the Crown? Not? No, yeah Megan with Oprah and Harry, 215 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: um not Harry? Is that his name? I don't know 216 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: any of the royals names. Yeah, Harry, Harry us okay, 217 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: Frince Harry, that's the one. We also say that the 218 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: guy that plays Charles is way too hot. It is hot. 219 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: It's it's not right, it's it's it's not right. I 220 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: honestly did not care about the royal family before the Crown, 221 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: and I still don't care about I still don't. But 222 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the thing is, this is the only thing that I 223 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: care about. The Crown. I don't care about I don't 224 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: care about the real people. I care about the Crown. 225 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Let's be very clear. I care about the Crown, not 226 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: the Crown as in her Royal Majesty's the Crown. Wait, 227 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: this is this is like okay, I'm gont it's okay. 228 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I was gonna text you this, but like, 229 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe this is podcast appropriate um in the vein of 230 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: our inndc's episode and also our porn episode the the 231 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: other night. Actually literally last night, I was, you know, 232 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: looking at porn for no reason in Porture, and the 233 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: reason wasn't to come no, no, no, no, of course not. 234 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: It was just recreational, like leisurely porn viewing rolling um 235 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: and the algorithm from my Twitter fed me an Indie 236 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Slee's era Emo boy porn where they were wearing knee 237 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: high black and white striped leggings send it to me 238 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: right now, and they were wearing arm bands like black 239 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: and white like there before Christmas like arm bands and 240 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: like an emo. But it was so amazing to see 241 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: it for research purposes. It's probably an entire genre of porn. 242 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: That porn is absolutely a thing. Oh my god. Okay, Well, anyways, 243 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't I honestly don't know if I will send 244 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: it to you. I think it's like, I think that's 245 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: like a professional boundary. Friend, there are there are no 246 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: professional I hate to break it to you, but those 247 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: don't exist. And thank God for it and God herself 248 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: but you know what, if I changed my mind about that, 249 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,359 Speaker 1: you will be hearing from my attorney. Ak, my grandpa. 250 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: It is your your grandpa, My grandpa is My grandpa 251 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: is my attorney. When I signed with my agent, I 252 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: sent the contract to my grandpa and he was like, 253 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know anything about this, but 254 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: um looks good. That is a sketch. That's a character 255 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: in the show. It's like, and you'll be talking from 256 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: my attorney anyways, Nana, where you what's like the boy 257 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: version of Nana? I don't even what do people call 258 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: their grandpa, pops, Papa, Papa, Papa? You are like papa. 259 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: I have several family members who listened to our podcast 260 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: and I had to I had to one of them. 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I had to explicitly tell not to listen to the 262 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: porn episode, and the other two told me that they 263 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: skipped it. Good. My my cousin Ali a thanks Giving, Um, Ali, 264 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: if you're listening, love you. Um. You know, outed herself 265 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: to me as a virgin and said, but there are 266 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: some episodes that I do skip because they get a 267 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: little a little too. I don't think I should be 268 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: listening to this. And you know what, I love boundaries. Yeah, 269 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: that sounds great. That's good for your cousin. I have 270 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: no family members that listen to this. Honestly, it's it's 271 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: my My relationships are stronger when my friends and family 272 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: don't listen to this podcast. Um, that's not totally true. 273 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm being facetious. I love it when people listen to 274 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: my podcast, our podcast. I I am very happy to 275 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: know that people who um have to hear me talk 276 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: in real life also want to hear me talk um 277 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: through their headphones. Do you ever do that thing though, 278 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: where you're look at the You're like at like that, 279 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, at drinks quote unquote, like at dinner or something, 280 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and then you start telling a story that you told 281 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and then you're like, oh wait, I 282 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: think someone here listens like they've already heard me tell this. Sorry, no, 283 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: because as we've established, I don't remember anything I've ever said. 284 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't apply, of course, of course, of course, I okay, 285 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: I Oh my god, why am I going right there? 286 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: I get so lonely in l A. L A is 287 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: a lonely, lonely city, and weed makes me feel less alone, 288 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: like all the time, Like it does. It sometimes make 289 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: you feel more alone, yes, of course, but like I 290 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: think that all of the positive things about weed at 291 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day provide me a sense of 292 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: company because I'm basically talking to myself and making jokes 293 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: with myself and stuff like that, and I love that 294 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: and I love well it turns up the echo chamber 295 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: in your brain, so you have an audience. It's so 296 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: funny though, because like it does make my brain feel 297 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: is more fluid, like less anxious about what people have 298 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: to say, and then at the same time go on 299 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: these crazy anxious spirals. Does your like weed brain ever 300 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: go down like weird catastrophizing around something that would never happen. 301 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Of course, my sober brain does that too, but but 302 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: for me it's these like tiny little circles. Were just like, 303 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: it'll catastrophize this paranoia. Mama, Yes, the paranoia is paranoying. 304 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But anyways, I didn't mean to go all 305 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: the way there, because weed is great. I love weed. Yeah, 306 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: we're both already were Yes, okay, virgins. You know those commercials, 307 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: it's like your this is you on Drudge, Yes, the 308 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: person who's melted into the cow. It's like, do you 309 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: promise I want that to be and honey, let's be real, 310 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: that was me. That's me on kedemy and every time 311 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm on oh my god. Yeah. No, weed does not 312 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: make you feel like I mean, maybe like a dank 313 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: Indica would make you feel like that, but I don't 314 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: think we'd should ever make you feel kind of neck like, 315 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: that's not my what do you How do you like 316 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: to feel on weed? I like, I like to feel relaxed, 317 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: a little floaty, a little silly, and maybe it, depending 318 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: on time of day, kind of sleepy. I don't really 319 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: smoke weed to feel like up and social, although that's 320 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: definitely the way that I smoked weed for like most 321 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: of my twenties. But now I'm an Indica girl, you know, 322 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I want to be chill vibes. When did you smoke 323 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: weed for the first time? Room? I was a scene, 324 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I want to say, a senior in high school. I 325 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: had basically I had been a nerd my entire like 326 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: like school career. Like. I went to the same school 327 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: from kindergarten to like high school and was a loser 328 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: all the way up until my last two years. And 329 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: I finally made friends with the cool kids that had 330 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: the weed, so we got like I think we smoked 331 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: in a park and listened to Grizzly Bear. That sounds beautiful. 332 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: It was, it was great, But I remember being like, 333 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: so it was more about the psychosomatic facts. I felt, 334 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: you feel really sick, you feel really dizzy and anxious, 335 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: like I feel like you usually feel like the negative 336 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: things with first experiences with weed, because you're probably smoking 337 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: bad weed. You know, we were in like high school, 338 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: what about you. The first time I smoked weed was 339 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: at camp, and I just kind of got very giggly. 340 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: What kind of camp? Sleepweight camp? Oh, like a Jewish 341 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: sleep away camp. It was predominantly Jewish, but it was 342 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, um not like it was secular. Yeah, it was, 343 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: it was secular, just curious. I feel like all my 344 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: friends have like a formative Jewish sleep away camp experience. 345 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: It was where all my first were and weed was 346 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: one of them. And but then in high school was 347 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: probably the first time that I bought weed with the 348 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: intention to smoke it. And then, you know, very but 349 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: quickly became some one of a stoner, and then much 350 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: more so in college. I'm the opposite. I mean not 351 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: the opposite, but like I became a stoner, like I 352 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: did not really smoke weed that much up until I 353 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: moved last you were more of a pepper pepper girl. Yes, 354 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: I did not like what we did to my brain, 355 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: and like you know, I would like socially smoke sometimes 356 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: but usually not. And I even actually had these roommates 357 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: that were stoner's minds, and I hated the smell of 358 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: weed and hated weed in the house. And I was 359 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: such a fucking dork about a little narc Yeah, I 360 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: was like a little not I mean, never tattled, okay, 361 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: but I but I was like, it was narc behavior. 362 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: It was it was you were judgmental. It was narc passing, 363 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: not narc passing. Okay, big r A energy, Yeah, exactly. 364 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: I would make a great r A obviously. I think 365 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I had more access to weed in college and freshman 366 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: year of college when I lived in a dorm. My 367 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: dorm was on fifty five Street in Midtown, and there 368 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: was a smoking spot that we used to go to 369 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: that was across the street from our dorm in like 370 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: a bank that was one corner of a city block, 371 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: and it had like a weird little like ramp with 372 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: a corner where everyone from our dorms went to smoke 373 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: weed and that like that's why I think things like 374 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: that is so much about weed, like when I was 375 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: a really big stoner, and I think for a lot 376 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: of people, so much about weed is the ritual of weed. 377 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Where you smoke, how you smoke, you know, all of 378 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: the different paraphernalia. Yeah, that are I think your relationship 379 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: to like art and culture and like what you're consuming 380 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: while you're like there's just like a whole like ecosystem. 381 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: When I was younger, and this is how I think 382 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: I have changed with smoking weed is when I was younger, 383 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: weed was much more social, and now it has become 384 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: something that is more of a solitary thing, which is 385 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: not as fun. Yeah, I us, no, it's not. I 386 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: mean I had a lot of I mean one like 387 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: I had a ball with weed alone because we had 388 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: to be alone in the pandemic and so like that 389 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: was just like a relationship like I built with myself, 390 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: like with weed. Weird weirdly enough, but like so like 391 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: I actually have more experiences smoking alone than I do 392 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: have smoking like with people, probably, which is really weird 393 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: because I love smoking with people. But yeah, that's it's 394 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: just a consequence of like when I took it up, 395 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of I was like the virgin to 396 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: eat almost Where can you roll a joint? Yeah? Absolutely, 397 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: because I used to roll me own cigarettes in college, 398 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: so it would probably be Yeah, I would rolled my 399 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: own cigarettes. I did that when I studied abroad in London. Girl, 400 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I was rolling my own cigarettes without filters. Every awful 401 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend that a female friend of mine has had has 402 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: been the kind of guy who rolls his own cigarettes. Yeah. 403 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: That It is such a particular type of vibe, and 404 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: the vibe is the crush in ethel Cat's crush Like, yeah, 405 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: it's like his brother, his dad's on death row, his 406 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: brother back to the Valedictorian, he's hiding guns in his locker. Yeah, 407 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: that's the way where someone who's faking being that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 408 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: faking being the Um what is your like? Go to 409 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: munchy food? Oh? Um? Do you get the muncheese? Oh 410 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: my god? Yeah, I have to eat. I eat so much. Um. 411 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: I will eat a rotissary chicken sandwiches or you do 412 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: that all the time anyway? Yeah yeah, yeah, love rotissary 413 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: chicken sandwich with avocado and lime. Yum. Uh. I will 414 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: also if I have nothing in the house. I usually 415 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: have frozen bread and I will make a grilled PBNJ 416 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: with bananas. Isn't that that's like a good munchy food? 417 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: What about you? That's one is really good. I don't 418 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: really get mun cheese. Yeah, maybe for like just something 419 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: sweet or chips love chips. Yeah, I I girl, I eat. 420 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: You would be shook by the amount that I consume 421 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: when I'm stoned. It's like I usually have to have 422 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: multiple meals. It's like crazy. I love food, I mean stoned, 423 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: but like, um, when what's like the highest you've ever been? 424 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: I know that I wrote this question the doc, but 425 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that I have an answer for it 426 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: because I guess because I've done so many other drugs 427 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: that have been more overwhelming, I just it doesn't compare. 428 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: But I guess like just the most stone I've ever 429 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: been is maybe like feeling the most paranoid I've ever been? 430 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Or anyways, I do you okay? Oh what's your answer? So? Uh. 431 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: One of my earliest memories of smoking was in college. 432 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: My best friend from college, Carl Bergman, was a stoner, 433 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: and she was one of the first people to like 434 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: make we'd feel fun with me, like I wouldn't freak 435 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: out because I was with someone I love so much 436 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: and I was visiting her in Minnesota. Uh, and she 437 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, we're gonna there's this like allah like 438 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: rocky horror screening of this terrible movie called Trolls Too. 439 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of it? We were you just 440 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: talked about Okay, Okay, I know I was doing that 441 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: thing where I was doing that thing and like podcasting 442 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: where I was like pretending like we haven't already talked 443 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: about it for the sake of the of the Virgins, 444 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: but actually, like the curtain is drawn, Virgins, you were 445 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: seeing this is the fourth wall. This is Candice in 446 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: real House Ses of Potomac turning to Cameron saying, is 447 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: this what we're doing? Have you? Oh my god, you 448 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: have to watch Potomac anyways, So Trolls Too is this 449 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: like kind of cult classic bad movie. It's considered one 450 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: of the worst movies ever created. And it's like there're 451 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: no trolls in the movie as well. It's about goblins, um, 452 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: and I don't be there goblins who identify as I 453 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: love your trans reading of this movie that I do 454 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: not remember because I was so blitz out of my mind. 455 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: And we made we handmade our own like t shirts 456 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: for the trolls troll screening, and we had like just 457 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: we were sitting on the floor like holding markers and 458 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: like drawing over all over our shirts, like as writing 459 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: like trolls to and drawing pictures of trolls. It was 460 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: like the highest thing I'd ever done. And it was 461 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: like one of the first things that I ever did high. 462 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: And we went and saw this movie and I hadn't 463 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea what the movie was or what 464 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: happened or what it was about, but it was amazing. 465 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: It was an amazing experience. Um, since you like mostly 466 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: smoked weed later in life, did you have a lot 467 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: of experiences with having to buy weed illegally or like 468 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: any drugs illegal? Like yeah, I mean in New York. 469 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you reach a point in New York 470 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: where you're like everyone around me is doing drugs, and 471 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: I just I like having drugs on hand at parties, 472 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, like, even though I 473 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: was not in nightlife as deep as you were in 474 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: my life, I still went to like so many fucking parties, 475 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I love to buy drugs. And I 476 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: love coke. I love buying coke. It makes me feel 477 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: so adult. Um, what about you. The first time I 478 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: bought weed, like in New York City, I was so scared. 479 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: And the delivery service that we used they pulled up 480 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: to my They told me what kind of car they 481 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: were coming in and said that they would pull up 482 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: to my apartment and I would get in and we 483 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: would drive a block and they would sell me the 484 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: weed and then drop me off. And I'm like, God kidnapped, 485 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: so listen, but that's literally just what happened. They picked 486 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: me up there like exchange exchange, and then I got weeds, 487 00:27:41,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, wow. Back in the day 488 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: when we had dare, did you ever have to watch 489 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: any of these like anti drugs? I'm sure at some point, 490 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, in in school we had a launch to 491 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: p s A. We had a big we had a 492 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: big anti drug program in our health class where like 493 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: we would have to like give presentations on drugs. Did 494 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: you ever have to do this, like give a presentation 495 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: on it? Okay, so everyone but I could do it today. 496 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 1: Everyone in our class had to. Like so they're like 497 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: these teens that are like and harrow and it's like 498 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: these like like literally like we're like what sixteen seventeen 499 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: like and like giving presentations about ecstasy and I tried 500 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: it last week. I've never done ecstasy. I don't think never. 501 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean I've done molly, which is essentially ecstasy. You've 502 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: just never done like pills. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I love 503 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: ecstasy like old school tabs of ecstasy. Yeah, that's what 504 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. That's Oh my god, that was like my home. 505 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: That was college and like post college for me. Wow, 506 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: I just like took ice cream scoops out of my brain. 507 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: I honestly envied the lifestyle that you had, honestly, like 508 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I remember being your that age and like wishing that 509 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I was like that cool, you know, like I, well, 510 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: that's why they have things like dare is because drugs 511 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: are cool, and even my parents made them sound cool. Like, 512 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, I grew up having parents who had done 513 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: drugs when they were kids, like still did drugs and 514 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, smoking weed, and it was never like that 515 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: taboo for me. I also have smoked a lot of 516 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: weed with both of my parents, which is a weird experience. 517 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't like being higher on my parents, but I wouldn't. 518 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: And I don't like seeing my parents or really anyone 519 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: in my family being high, because like people are silly 520 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: and stupid when they're high, and like I don't, Yeah, 521 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: you've I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, 522 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: you've never smoked weed with your parents? Not with my parents. No, 523 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: I've been high around my parents without them knowing, but 524 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: like slightly different, slightly different, like justin and I will 525 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: do that sometimes. But anyways, are you a bong person? No? 526 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: You know? I had a bong in college that I 527 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: named Neville Bong bottom shot named a lot of my 528 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: like a lot of my bowls. Okay, what other Neville 529 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: bong bottom was the best one? Nevill Bob Bottom. I 530 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: hate you? Where you am a gravity bong? Girly? No, 531 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I think that that so I put the sawed off 532 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: soda bottle. I dated this guy um in twenty one. 533 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: I think that was like a huge stoner and like 534 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: had a bong and would always make a smoke out 535 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: of a bag and I was always just like, oh 536 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: my god, I'm so unnecessarily hot. It's a whole big deal, 537 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and you get released. I prefer the ease of just 538 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: smoking a vape, but I love the elegance and simplist 539 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: city of a joint, and joint will forever be the 540 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: chicist way you can smoke weed. It's how I always 541 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: want to smoke weed. Yeah, yeah, it's it's the ritual 542 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: it is. And it's also like it's it's like smoking. 543 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: It's like smoking cigarette. That that is, you know, also 544 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: the ritual of it. And I don't smoke cigarettes anymore, 545 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: but I smoke joints. Do you have any relationships between 546 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: like we like sping Stone and a certain like album 547 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: or a certain like kind of music that you like 548 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: to listen or something like a memory with it, because 549 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: like I feel like I would have a totally different 550 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: relationship to something like Fetch the Bolt Cutters or I 551 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: don't know, do you have any music like that? You know? 552 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I love to get stoned and listen to, you know, 553 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: an album in its entirety, you know, and just have 554 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: like a little movie play behind my eyelids, like you know, 555 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Confessions on a dance Floor or something, or I love 556 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: I did in the pandemic several times got really high 557 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: and watched the video of Madonna's Confessions tour. If anyone 558 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: out there, if you have never seen. I've never seen 559 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: you have to watch it. It is incredible. I've heard 560 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: you talking about if I could, if I could build 561 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: a time machine, I would use it to go back 562 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: in time and see the Confessions tour. I feel like 563 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I see you or Ryan tweet about it, like every 564 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: other week we do. What's your like? Go to stony music? 565 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: U one of the it's not go to but I 566 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: always think of like Victoria Victoria Manai's album with Jaguar. 567 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't really listen to them a lot. Oh my god, 568 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: it's a very short album, but it was it was 569 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: so amazing. Um. Actually Chloe and Halley's album also, like 570 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, but god, I don't know. I think that. Um, 571 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: I like that. I like weed when it feels like creative. 572 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: I was I was wondering about that for you because like, 573 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: obviously weed is something that you used to relax, but like, 574 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: are you able to work when you're really stoned? Sometimes 575 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: we're oftensibly working right now? Yeah, like I mean now, yeah, 576 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: it's like actually one of the rare times now I 577 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: don't really work well stoned. No, It's like I I've 578 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: tried to write well stoned, but it has to be 579 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: a very specific like a lot of different planets have 580 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: to align for me to be able to do that well, 581 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: which I have done well, but like, no, not not 582 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: all the time. I have really found that it's a 583 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: good thing to do when you specifically need something that 584 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: your high brain can provide. Like I like to get 585 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: stoned if I'm like going in and doing punch ups 586 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: to make something funnier. Um, there was a specific kind 587 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: of weed chocolate I was getting for a while that 588 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: like really put me in that headspace. But mostly I 589 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: just want to. Like in college a lot, my friend 590 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: Katie and I would My school was on the upperast Side, 591 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: so we would get really high and then take the 592 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: bus through Central Park to the Upper West Side to 593 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: the Natural History Museum and go to the Hall of 594 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Marine Life and then just lay down on the floor 595 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: under the giant whale and just like be high for 596 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: a couple of hours. That was how we spent most 597 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: of college. That's so fun. When when I was in college, 598 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: my my stoner friend Carl Bergman, she was in this 599 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: like all women like improv troop or whatever, and um, 600 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: they would like put on like shows, and she did 601 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: this one show called quever Madness That was like a 602 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: series of sketches about weed and it was amazing. Rose 603 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: like on, I know, like I you and I feel 604 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: all type of way about like going to see like 605 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: improv shows, you know what I mean? Like sing improv 606 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: shows is is is hard sometimes, but they're also madness. Wait, 607 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: have you ever seen the movie Reefer Madness? The movie musical. 608 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: It's actually so good and I believe it. I was 609 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: obsessed with it in high school. I had a hyperfixination 610 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: on it. And actually my same friend Katie, we used 611 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: to call each other and sync up our screens to 612 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: watch it a the same time. Kristen Bell's in it, 613 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: one of the one of the things that early on 614 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: made me into a little bell hop not a little 615 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: bell hop. Um and um Nev Campbell's in it, and 616 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: her brother Christian Campbell, who's gay question Mark, he's the 617 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: lead in it, and um on your gas Dire's in it. 618 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so funny. Oh my god, I'm sure. 619 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Also I haven't seen in a long time. I'm sure 620 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: it's also really problematic. Problem Actually, I could already think 621 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: of like three different things from it. Okay, I am 622 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: now thinking of like bad stoner movies in general, like 623 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: um like Trolls too, because like it was like a 624 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: stoner from like everyone in the movie theater was high 625 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: when I went to see that. But like show Girls 626 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: is kind of that, you know what I mean? Girls 627 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: is a little intense to watch when you're really high. Yeah, 628 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but I also famously don't like show Girls. Yeah, 629 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: you hate show Girls. I think is that there's a 630 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: little skew there, but like, but validly t I think 631 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: it's like one of those movies or like the Teeth, yeah, 632 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: or like Tommy Wi those The Room, like these movies 633 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: that I'm like that I wouldn't want to watch those 634 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: when I was high. But you've seen them, right, you 635 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: know what. I've never seen The Room. I've never seen 636 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: The Room either. I don't really I have no desire to. 637 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: But I've seen Teeth, but I don't. I don't consider 638 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: Teeth a stone or movie, but it but Teeth is 639 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: like so bad. It's one of those like extremely terrible movies. 640 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: I actually think Teeth is like kind of a good 641 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: horror movie. Wait, really, yeah, I've never seen it. Oh No, 642 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: I think it's like it's good. It's about a girl 643 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: and it's about a girl who has vaginad tata, she 644 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: has her vagina and she I mean a sexual violence 645 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: and like her getting revenge on men by cutting their 646 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: dicks off. My god, seriously, yeah, I didn't realize it 647 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: was a sexual violence film. Well, wow, maybe I'll have 648 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: to watch it. Maybe but not stone Oh my god, wait, 649 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: I need to answer your question. So um, I did 650 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: think I remembered that I pretty much exclusively watch Housewives. Don't. 651 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not fun sober, and it gets 652 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: too dark because it's all their sterlines are so dark, 653 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: now you know what I mean? Yeah, they need to 654 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: smoke more weed. Yeah they do. It's so true. Honestly, 655 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: if they were drinking less vodka tonics and smoking more weed, 656 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: it would be a much less watchable show. We changes 657 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: your personality. I feel if you're doing it all the time, 658 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: it changed my person I fully don't trust people who 659 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: don't like smoking pot. That used to be me. I 660 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: don't trust people who don't like weed, Like, why don't 661 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: you like weed? It's with me? So now when I 662 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: mean people that say, oh, we don't like smoking meat, 663 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: I pretty much almost always. It depends on what vibe 664 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: they're giving. But I almost always assume, like, oh, you 665 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: haven't smoked meed that you like yet, because saying you 666 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: don't like weed is like saying you don't like wine. 667 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: Like there's so many of varieties of weed, you know, 668 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: the same way there's so many of the varieties of 669 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: wine and different experiences and settings that you're in that 670 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: make the circumstance of that weed bad or good to 671 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: you in that moment. It took me a long time 672 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: to figure out that I could actually like actively search 673 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: out strains that, you know, made me feel how I 674 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: was trying to feel, rather than just you know, smoking 675 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: or imbibing whatever I could get my hands on exactly, 676 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: and including a regano. Have you ever been sold regano? 677 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: Is it like record? Do people like smoking a regano? No, 678 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: It's just it's just like looks kind of like weeds. People. 679 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: People do it to scam people. Am I wonder if 680 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: I misremember it? So at um Muna's Halloween party, not 681 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: not this year, about last year I was there with Ash. 682 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: You were I can't remember what you were doing, and 683 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: then um, I was like we were I was trying 684 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I was trying to bump a cigarette. 685 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, when you're at a party and like 686 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: it's outdoors, an outdoor party, and you're just like everyone's smoking. 687 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: You're like, I really want a cigarette right now. And 688 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: so I looked at Josette and I was like, hey, 689 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: can I bums? Because they I saw they were smoking, 690 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: and I I said, hey, can I get a cigarette? And 691 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: she turned to me and she was like, um oh, 692 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: there are Regano cigarettes. Like we're quitting. And I was like, 693 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: I hate Los Angeles, Like give me out of here. Yeah, 694 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: you can buy like herbal cigarette. Hey that did you 695 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: ever have a period of smoking clothes? I feel like 696 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: that's very indus So that's disgusting. No, I like definitely 697 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: like smoked a lot of clothes cigarettes at Webster Hall. 698 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: At one point in my life, I had a cigarette 699 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: recently that was yogurt flavored. Yes, they were from Tokyo. 700 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: My friend had just recently gone. They were like creamy. 701 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: It didn't even taste, yes, it was delish. It didn't 702 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: taste and it didn't taste like a flavored yogurt. It 703 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: tasted like it tasted like plain non fat yogurt, and 704 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: it tasted like creamy and tangy. Um. Speaking of weed food, yes, um, 705 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: what's your favorite? Like, do you are you a gummy girl? 706 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: Are you a cookie girl? Or you a brownie girl? Definitely? 707 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 1: Definitely gummies, Definitely things that are crunchy. Definitely ice cream. 708 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: What about you? Gummies are the easiest. I used to 709 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: love making brownies in college and like in in my twenties. 710 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: Actually I had a I had a roommate once. He 711 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: was like this random guy who moved in with my 712 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: old friend and I and we made weed brownies one 713 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: weekend and he we we all like my friend and 714 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: I knew to eat one each. He ate the whole 715 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: plate of them and disappeared for two days. We could 716 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: not get in touch with him, and like I truly 717 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: thought he was dead. Oh my god. And then he 718 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: just showed up on the third day and was like, Hey, 719 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: that's like so unnerving, Like you can die, can't you die? 720 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that you could o d from weed? 721 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: Really well, how how would it happen? I don't know, 722 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,479 Speaker 1: Like your body with I don't know. No, I don't 723 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: think so it's natural from the ground. From the ground. 724 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing in the ground that can get herb. Do 725 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: you think that people can be addicted to weed? No, 726 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean like on its side, Like, no, the term 727 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: addiction doesn't apply to weed. I think that the medical 728 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: a medical addiction can't like you can't get medically needed 729 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: to weed. But I think to feared dependencies, yes, that 730 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: are pretty much akin to addictions. Yes, absolutely is weed 731 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: a gateway drug? Mm hmm, No, I don't think so 732 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: what about what do you think? I mean maybe, but 733 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: I think any drug can be a gateway drug. I 734 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: it definitely is the first drug I tried, and once 735 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: I was smoking weed a lot, I felt more you know, adventurous. 736 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know doing drugs is a gateway drugs. 737 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, like the term gateway 738 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: drug is actually like so dated, like literally the first 739 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: drug that you do is the gateway drug. That is 740 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: a range of drugs. And listen, gen Z, these like 741 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: maybe our generation, like you know, we always try weed 742 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: first or whatever, but like gen Z, like these girls 743 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: are doing molly, you know what I mean, Like we 744 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: saw euphoria. Okay, they don't even like smoke weed on 745 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: euphoria though, They're like there's like we're kind of it's 746 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: like weed is too boring. It was just like um 747 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: uh narcotics. It is crazy to me sometimes, like when 748 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: I'm like standing on the street, like as we were 749 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: just twenty minutes ago, standing on the street smoking and 750 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: joint and thinking that Like when I was younger, I 751 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: was so terrified of being found smoking weed in public 752 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: and thought I was so slick, Like we used to 753 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: um smoke in a phone booth, like bring a bring 754 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: a bowl out to a phone booth on Third Avenue 755 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: and just like smoke around it and we're like, no 756 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: one knows what we're doing. My parents, it's very obvious 757 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing, literally, like they're like everyone, a lot 758 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: of people in my neighborhood, but especially my parents were like, Maje, 759 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: you so deathly scared of getting hot smoking weed, Like 760 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: it's as if you killed someone, you know what I mean? 761 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: Well you could and I have and you have killed 762 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people while stoned, because is a recreational 763 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 1: activity that you like to do. What other drugs do you? Like? 764 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I love um kindamine. Yeah you and you 765 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: were a coke girl. I never was, or if I was, 766 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: it was for a very short time. Yeah, Yeah, I 767 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: love I love coke. It makes me feel bad, but 768 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: that's because it comes with a certain culture, and the 769 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: people you do coke with are usually like not amazing people, 770 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Yeah, which is why I usually 771 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: just I was a big psychedelic girl, you know, like 772 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: I like hippie vibes. You know. That's like I think 773 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: the weed thing. Love acid. You used to love acid. 774 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: You used to love and do a lot of acid, 775 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: but haven't done it in a long time. I never 776 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: liked mushrooms. I have no ideal acids. Like, I really 777 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: want to try acid. I mean, the thing that's cool 778 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: about acid is that it actually changes the world around 779 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: you and you see things that aren't there, and I 780 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: never felt that is very cool. I'm so scared to 781 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: do that. But I also want to do ayhuasca. Um 782 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: So I don't really want to puke. Oh I'm a 783 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: big I'm a big drug puker though, But that's a 784 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: good thing. The puking is good. It's part of the ceremony. 785 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: Like when I did coke a lot for like a 786 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: couple months, I would always puke, but it would be 787 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the night. It was like something 788 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: that I had to get out of the way, like 789 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: puke on the way to a party and then just 790 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: be fine. We do have to admit there are some 791 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: drawbacks of smoking weed, like cotton mouth, which my mouth 792 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: is very dry right now. Cotton yeah, yeah, that does suck. 793 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 1: It also makes you anxious, makes me anxious. Bloodshot eyes, 794 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I need to bring eye drops everywhere. Honestly, 795 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: I love the smell of weed, though uh yeah, I 796 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: guess I do too. I like the smoke, I don't like. 797 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: I don't love the smell, Like I don't smoke in 798 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: my house. I know you don't smoke in your house, 799 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: and you know what, that is your That is your choice. 800 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: I honestly just like, I don't like the idea of 801 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: my house smelling like weed in any regard when someone 802 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,479 Speaker 1: walks into it, because like you know who, Like I've 803 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: been into a stoner's house, you know, and like it's 804 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: like seeped into it's just like come, It's just because 805 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: it's like in every part of the apartment. It's like, um, 806 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: it's like when you walk into an apartment, You're like, Wow, 807 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: someone definitely just ejaculated in here. 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