1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Welcome into Fox Football Saturday. I'm back as your host again. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: It's Karen Vitally and I'm joining me today as CEO 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: of Fangirls Sports Network and forty nine Ers Beat reporter 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Tracy Sandler. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 3: Hi, Trace, Hey, Carvion. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm so good. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: So this is a little different of a setup because 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm coming to you live actually from Chicago, Illinois, and 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Tracy's holding it back down in our Los Angeles studios 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: with Bob Benson, Chris Burfette. Is that Martin Weiss I 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: heard on the news desk? 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: Thanks Bill Blaze. 14 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh oh boy, I didn't even think about that. Wow. 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: It's a really Michigan heavy show there in the studio. 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Good thing. 17 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm back in the Midwest here. But we have a 18 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: very we have a great, very NFL heavy show for 19 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: you today. We have predictions, we have reactions, we have Spitgate, 20 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: and we'll hear from WGN's Caitlin Sharky ahead of Viking Spars, 21 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: followed by Ty Dunn in an explosive new read about Kaylab, 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Williams and the Bears on his Golong sub stack. 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I mean, we are so back. 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I the NFL is so back, and I felt. 34 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: Kind of back for a while now because I've been 35 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: backsin this training cam started. But it is funny when 36 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: it turns over to actually week one, there's something in 37 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: the air. It just there's some op ump is gonna 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 4: be my word of the day, and there's some omph 39 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: and we are so. 40 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: Bad with that. I love that. 41 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: It's it's funny too because not that this is the 42 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: case in LA but in a lot of other parts 43 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: of the country, including Chicago, there has been a change, 44 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: like a change in the weather. There has literally been 45 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: a shift in the air. It's cool outside. I've got 46 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: like I'm trying to keep my flowers alive because it's 47 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: getting cold at night. I've got a fireplace going, and 48 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, it's fall. Fall means football, 49 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: and we're here. We've already had two games. We had 50 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs Chargers last night from Brazil, which was incredible. That 51 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: halftime show. I am such a fan of Carol g. 52 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you are to trace, but yes. 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: It was amazing. 54 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: I love a good halftime show, and I feel like 55 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: when we get them beyond just the super Bowl, it's 56 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: so fun. 57 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: It is so fun. 58 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: And then we had Eagles Cowboys to start the season 59 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: on Thursday. But I want to start with chief Chiefs 60 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Chargers because there's the listen, are the Chargers? Are the 61 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 2: Chargers back? We're talking about We're back? Are the Chargers back? 62 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: I know Tracy, this is someone very near and dear 63 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: to your heart because Tracy is a Michigan alum. As 64 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: she's already stated, I think that you know, it took 65 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: three seconds of the show for Tracy talk about Michigan. 66 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: But you got Jim Harbaugh at the Helm here and 67 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: in year two, I don't know anybody that was worried 68 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: about this running back by committee thing clearly shouldn't be 69 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: including Justin Herber. I mean, what was your take on 70 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: what you saw trace far as what Jim Harbaugh has 71 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: had for this year. 72 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned Justin Herbert, and we kind of have 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: to start there. I mean, he's granted, it's week one, 74 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: so I realized this is not a playoff game of 75 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. But he always gets knocked for not being 76 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: able to come through and all of that, and there 77 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 4: he is playing the Chiefs in Brazil. He had a 78 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: heck of a game. I mean, he truly was fantastic. 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: I feel like it was a different Justin Herbert than 80 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: we've seen. And I know how talented he is, and 81 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: I know he has certainly been very good over the years, 82 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: but I think Harbaugh has just taken him to another level. Again, 83 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: it's week one, but I love a week one over reaction, 84 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: so I think the Chargers are very back. 85 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: And maybe, just maybe they won't Charger this year. I 86 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: know it's a tall task. 87 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's a tall task. It's only 88 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: week one, so who knows. But I really appreciated the fact. 89 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: I mean Justin Herbert had seven rushing attempts thirty two yards, 90 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: and it wasn't quite to the level that we've seen 91 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs when they've struggled. But Kay Adams actually 92 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: brought this up on the broadcast, which I thought was 93 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: a really good point in that the Chiefs struggle against 94 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that have forty five or more rushing yards in 95 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: a game. Now, again, Justin Herbert didn't quite get there, 96 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: but clearly he came through on some crucial downs in 97 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: that game. And you look at like the third down especially, 98 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean Chargers were seven of thirteen, which is just 99 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: over It was just yeah, just over fifty percent if 100 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: I can do it math correctly. Chiefs really struggled that 101 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: first half on third down. That was the biggest difference. 102 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: But I think the added dynamic of Justin Herbert being 103 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: able to kind of take off and not being afraid 104 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to do that, especially when you consider I mean, I 105 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: was very worried about the Rashaan Slater injury, and I 106 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: was very concerned to see what was going to happen 107 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: with this Chargers offensive line. Now, Joe All looks the 108 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: part of that left tackle position. You got Trey Pipkins 109 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: on the other side, Trey Pipkins who hasn't had a 110 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: start since twenty twenty three, and you draw a really 111 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: tall straw when you have to go against Chris Jones 112 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: and your first start in a couple of years. I 113 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: was really concerned about that, but it seemed like, I mean, 114 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: go figure, Jim Harbaugh got that offensive line right and 115 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: this run game is very balanced. 116 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: The charge the Chargers looked very balanced. 117 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: They did. They looked very balanced. 118 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: And I think another thing that is certainly worth mentioning 119 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: is they had wide receivers and they caught the ball 120 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: and that was not something we saw the last time 121 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: the Chargers were played. 122 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: There's still a couple of those Quinton Johnson drops, which 123 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: I think everyone's just going to have to live with. 124 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: You was yes, five of seven, so two one of 125 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: them was kind of a heartbreaker. But you had Lad 126 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: McConkie Keenan Allen looking like vintage Keenan Allen. Seven receptions, 127 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: sixty eight yards in that touchdown. 128 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: So he is Keenan Allen back. There's a lot of 129 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: are they backs right now? I feel like that that 130 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: is one of them too. 131 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: Well, then I guess the bigger question with this game 132 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: then is are the Chiefs back or not? 133 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Because I mean, I have to. 134 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: Think that Xavier Worthy going down so early in this 135 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: game changed the game tremendously. Now, Andy Reid, I think 136 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: is one of the best at in adjustments even and 137 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: figuring things out on the fly. Coaching staff is very 138 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: experienced of doing stuff like that. But it was very 139 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: obvious that the Chiefs were missing Xavier Worthy. 140 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: I would agree with that. So I thought you were 141 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: about say, smell, I absolutely would agree with that. I don't, 142 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: I mean the Chiefs. It's hard to say. 143 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: I mean, it is week one, so I can totally 144 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: wax poetic on the Chargers basically winning the Super Bowl 145 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: after week one. But I don't want to wax poetic 146 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: and say that the Chiefs are done after week one. 147 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: I have felt for a while that this is the 148 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: year that they may be dethroned from the AFC West. 149 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: I feel like from the Broncos, however, they they may 150 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: be dethrowned. 151 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: But I can't. It's like I can. 152 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: Only overreact in certain places, and which is probably a 153 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: little hypocritical. But okay, they I can't count about just yet. 154 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: I mean, they are still the Chiefs. They still have 155 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, they still have Andy Reid. They have a 156 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: slimmed down ready wedding ready, Travis Kelsey, they have Chris Jones. 157 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we got a long way to go. 158 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: In this, but I think the Chargers showed that they 159 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 4: can beat them. And I think one of the things 160 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: with the Chiefs, you know, the last time we saw 161 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, it was pretty much a disaster. In the 162 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: Super Bowl certainly was better, but I didn't see anything 163 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: that made be like they're a lock for the AFCs. 164 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: So not saying that they won't win it, I just 165 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: don't look at them is like up a lock once again. 166 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: No, and I mean again if you're gonna talk. 167 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: The thing is, we've seen the Chiefs do this before 168 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: when even though they suffered the most drops in the 169 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: league by their receivers, they still end up in the 170 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, they win the Super Bowl. Even when that happens, 171 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: and you look at you know, not having Savior worthy, 172 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: all of that workload went to Hollywood Brown, who. 173 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Had sixteen targets, only. 174 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 2: Caught ten of them too, just shy of one hundred 175 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: yards on the day, did not get into the end zone. 176 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: And you think, okay, like this is just the Chiefs 177 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: from a couple of years ago where no one could 178 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: catch the ball, but they still made it happen, and 179 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: that was because of one number fifteen. Yes, Patrick Mahomes 180 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: making just some wild plays every time. I think I 181 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: can't be surprised by him anymore. He does like that 182 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: third down conversion where he's like on again laterally throwing 183 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: the ball, pitching it like getting himself out of pressure, 184 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: which the Chargers did. I mean, Mintor's defense is Jesse 185 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: Minter's defense is it looks like. 186 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: The real deal again. 187 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: And getting getting to Patrick Mahomes is not easy to 188 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: do because of how well he can scramble and create 189 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: in the backfield and all that kind of stuff. But 190 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: I mean, when Mahomes is your leading rusher as the Chiefs, 191 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: I feel like that's not a recipe that's going to 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: get you a lot of places. He had six attempts 193 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: for fifty seven yards and he had that rushing touchdown. 194 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm never going to put anything past 195 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: the Chiefs because of Patrick Mahomes, and I think that 196 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 2: they can claw their way. And it's only week one 197 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: and this that the other like we said, this is 198 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: not something we haven't seen before from the Chiefs. But 199 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: I just it was fun to see the Chargers go 200 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: out and do that. And I love this division because 201 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: I also am in the camp that I don't think 202 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: the Raiders are going to be that bad this year. 203 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: This could be a really fun division that in that 204 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: hasn't had a different winner in a long time. 205 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: Maybe will this year. 206 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: There's certainly the possibility. 207 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: And I think that in itself is fun for the 208 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: division because there really hasn't been that possibility in so long, 209 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: and so I think that just creates obviously competition, and 210 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: you know, makes the games fun. It makes every week fun. 211 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is fun. I mean he is truly incredible. 212 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: Like you know, a lot of people love to hate 213 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: on the Chiefs, but he's a tremendous quarterback. But I 214 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: think you're right this division maybe low key, sneaky, super 215 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: competitive and just going to be super fun to watch. 216 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: I mean, Pete Carrol's in it. Now, that's fun in itself. 217 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: I know, it really is. 218 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: You've got experienced coaches, really fun players, especially at quarterbacks. 219 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: Some of those defenses and the defenses you think about 220 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: that Broncos defense man, But I want to go to 221 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: the other side of the league, because the first game 222 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: we saw was the Eagles. 223 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: Cowboys did not disappoint. 224 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: Did not disappoint from the jump, Tracy like, I was like, 225 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: we don't need to get the entire season in in 226 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: the first game. Good God, between all of the different 227 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: things that happened, and then obviously like we can talk 228 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: all we want. I think that honestly, the Marty Schottenheimer Cowboys, 229 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: the shoddy Cowboys. I like what they did a lot 230 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: on offense. I really thought that there were some fun 231 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: little wrinkles that they had in there. The increased rate 232 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: of motion I think opens up that offense. 233 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: Quite a bit. 234 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: You have more than one guy to get the ball 235 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: to if you're Dak Prescott now that they have George Pickens. 236 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: Although Ceedee Lamb needs to catch a ball, I really 237 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: want to I want to focus more on that, maybe 238 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: yet a later time, because we don't have a ton 239 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: of time to do it. But the rate of motion 240 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: that they used, it was just really quick. Stat they 241 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: use most of the snap, This is courtesy of men 242 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: to cimes actually use most of the snap forty two 243 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: percent of plays on Thursday Night last year. They ranked 244 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: twenty ninth league wide in that stat at the snap 245 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: and forty two percent would have ranked fourth. So they 246 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: I mean, granted again a small sample size, but you 247 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: want to look for kind of indicators of what's different 248 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: in this Shottenheimer offense. And I think that that's it, 249 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: and I think that's going to serve them very, very well. 250 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: But we can't talk about this game without talking about 251 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: what happened at the very beginning of it, which is 252 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: that Jalen Carter, the Eagles best defensive player, gets thrown 253 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: out of the game for spitting on Dak Prescott like 254 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: the loogie heard around the world. 255 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: It's so, I mean, that's how I really knew we 256 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: were back. 257 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: But you have a divisional game on Thursday night, before 258 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: the game really even. 259 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: Begins, I was like, how does that even happen? 260 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: And we laugh about it and it is like it's 261 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: ridiculous and it's funny. But Jalen Carter's got to get 262 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: it together. This can't be happening every weekend. It's you know, 263 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: what is a football game. People are going to antagonize you. 264 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: People are going to try to get under your skin. 265 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to figure out how to handle that 266 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: because you can't be out there spitting on people left 267 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: and right. 268 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I saw something on Twitter that I completely agree with her. 269 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: I was like Jalen Carter spitting on Dak Prescott, spinning 270 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: on a rival like tough, mean, don't want to mess 271 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: with him. Jalen Carter getting rage baited by Dak Prescott 272 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: who spit on the ground and said something to him, 273 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, we're not back. 274 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: This is terrible, and it's true. 275 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: It's true, like if he was baited into it, Like 276 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: not that anybody should spit on anybody that's extremely disrespectful. 277 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: That's like a whole other level. It's like it's one 278 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: thing to say something to a guy, but to physically 279 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: spit on him. But the NFL is cracking down wholeheartedly 280 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: on these unsportsman like penalties. And there was a lot 281 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: of attrition from both of these guys honestly after the game. 282 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: And I think we have the sound from both Dak 283 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: and Jalen talking about Spitgate right after the game. 284 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: I'll probably spend a thousand times throughout the game, I mean, 285 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: especially game day, maybe even in general, and something I'll 286 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: guess I'm not proud of. But in that case, he 287 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 5: was trolling. I guess you could say trying to mess 288 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: with Tyler Booker. I was just looking at him. I 289 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: was right here by the two linemen, and I guess 290 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 5: I needed to spit and I wouldn't go to spin 291 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: on my liman and. 292 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 6: I just spit ahead. 293 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: But I'd say he was back there with Jeor was 294 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: in that sense, and he asked, or he goes, you're 295 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: trying to spin on me. 296 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: And at that point, I mean, I. 297 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: Felt like like like he was insulting me, like I 298 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: don't I wouldn't spend on somebody. I'm damn su You're 299 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 5: not trying to spin on you, like we're about to 300 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: play a game. I heard the Rough talking and then 301 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 5: I heard him say this is a toss of offense 302 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: or it's something like that. 303 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 7: Am. 304 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 8: That's when I know, you know, I walked off the 305 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 8: field calmly. 306 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: I was not mad. 307 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 8: That's pretty much. I couldn't really do nothing else, you know. 308 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 8: The rough decision is the rough decision on the situation. 309 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 8: When things started to come out and you start seeing 310 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 8: a thing that. 311 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 5: If you can go off that, but I don't got 312 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 5: nothing to say about it, you. 313 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: Know, just to throw someone out of the game for it. 314 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, like we don't have a ton of 315 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: time before we had to go to break But Tracy, 316 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: is that Are you okay with that? 317 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: I think it feels maybe like a little bit of 318 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: an overaction. However, I think what it is is you 319 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: don't want this happening now every game, like, oh you 320 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: takes me off, I'm now going to spit on you 321 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: because I can do that because you knew, like everybody 322 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: was going to make it a big deal any because 323 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: you could see it happening. 324 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: And I think it's maybe more about that. I don't know. 325 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm I'm on the. 326 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: Fence about it because it is pretty disrespectful. Like if 327 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: we were sitting here and you didn't like one of 328 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: my takes new came over and spit on me, I would. 329 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: Feel like that's not cool. 330 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: So I know, I don't know. 331 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: It's gonna I'm really I'm struggling a little bit with it, 332 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: but I. 333 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: Get why it's a possible. 334 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: My thing is like, if anybody heard what was actually 335 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: said on that field between these guys, I'm like, there 336 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: has been so much more in disrespect that has happened 337 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: verbally on the field that no one ever gets to 338 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: hear because the NFL won't er it, but as someone 339 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: who has been on the sidelines during a game, it's 340 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: it gets it gets crazy in practice. Man, that's it's football. 341 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 342 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't want it to affect 343 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: rivalries because, like I mean, Eagles Cowboys is such a 344 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: good rivalry, and like you're gonna get stuff like this, 345 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: like I get not wanting to set a precedent that 346 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: this is okay and this that the other. 347 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: But then find him. Man, Like I don't know, I 348 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: just I don't. 349 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: I don't know that like ejecting a player for doing 350 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: that and eventually altering the outcome of the game. I 351 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: mean it didn't end up, you know, because the Eagles 352 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: pulled it out, But if that would have altered the game, 353 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: if the Eagles would have lost, this would have been 354 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: a completely different conversation. 355 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, very just yeah, I don't know. 356 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: It's a it's a tough one. I think it could 357 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: be discussed and debated. I understand why they do it. 358 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: I also understand the idea of just finding him. It's 359 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm glad it's not my ultimate decision, 360 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: but I guess the note to all NFL players listening 361 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: to the show because I know you are all tuned in. 362 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: Do not spit on your opponent. Yeah there's pH still day. 363 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Just don't do it. 364 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: All right, We're going to take a bigger picture look 365 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: around the league, what we can predict or what we 366 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: what we expect from this twenty twenty five season on 367 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: the other side, but we're going to take a break. 368 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: Right now. 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I've got Tracy Sandler with 379 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: me over the airwaves in LA holding it down with 380 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: the guys. 381 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: Looking at your chair to talk to you. I keep 382 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: looking over at you. I'm just gonna pretend you're there. 383 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 9: I know. 384 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm so lost. I'm like, where do I look? Okay, 385 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: look at Tracy but I am. I'm thrilled to be 386 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: back with you, guys. I'm thrilled to be back with you. Tracy. 387 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: I just like, I can't believe football seasons here. We're back, 388 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: We're here. It's the twenty twenty five season, which doesn't 389 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: actually sound real. It's like sometimes I feel like Curing 390 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: the year makes me like it's like I'm back in 391 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and three and I'm watching a movie that's 392 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: like supposedly in the future, and it's like, yeah, you're 393 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and I'm like, because it sounds like 394 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: a futuristic year. 395 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 4: It does, though, I can affirm that I did not 396 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: fly here in a flying car. 397 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: I sat in traffic. 398 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: So that's why don't we have flying cars that just since. 399 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 3: Told me we were going to have them. So I 400 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: am like, seventy years ago, Yeah on they we haven't. 401 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: They knew figured that out? 402 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean seriously, so I'm a little disappointed. 403 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: But put down on La traffic, my god, Like, could 404 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: you imagine flying literally flying down the four or five. 405 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: It'd be great, incredible. 406 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: Well, it is the twenty twenty five season, and I 407 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: want I haven't had a chance to really talk to you, Tracy, 408 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: talk about just the league as a whole, what we're 409 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: expecting this season, and we're gonna do some season predictions 410 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: of with a playoff field or like just just look 411 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: and we're gonna look at the division winners or who 412 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: we're going to predict as the division winners the wild cards, 413 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna do it. I'm not even the 414 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: one I like, I hate doing these, but I'm doing 415 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: it anyway. I'm going to ask you, Tracy, your super 416 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: Bowl prediction. I will give my because I just feel 417 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: like at this point you can't not go on record 418 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: before Week one really kicks off without at least having 419 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: some sort of prediction. Okay, so let's go through the 420 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: playoff field. Who we think is going to win each division. 421 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: Let's just start in the NFC. We'll go directionally, NFC North, Okay, me, 422 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: you have well before we get to mine, I want 423 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: to know. 424 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I really want to pick the Minnesota Vikings 425 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: for obviously. 426 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: Gee, I wonder why Tracy went to Michigan in case everybody, 427 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: and I. 428 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 4: Because I love JJ McCarthy and I'm a new Vikings 429 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 4: fans school, but the mic of Parsons trade makes me 430 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: pick the Packers. 431 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I have I completely agree with you, and in fact, 432 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: I thought it was still the Lion's division. I got 433 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: to go up there to Detroit this off season. I was, 434 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: I was up there for training camp and I was talking, 435 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: you know about the new coordinators and you know, especially because. 436 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: They had they brought guys in. 437 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: If they brought a guy and it was John Moore, 438 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: who was with the team a couple of years ago, 439 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: very familiar with them. And then they elevated Calvin Shepherd 440 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: as defensive coordinator. And like, he's a guy that had 441 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: been brought up by Aaron Glenn and had been prepped 442 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: for this, whether it was gonna be with Detroit or 443 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: someone else. Calvin Shepherd has been preparing to be a 444 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: coordinator for years at this point, and I think he 445 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: does a phenomenal job. He's a lot more fiery than 446 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn is. Even on the practice field, Calvin sometimes 447 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: doesn't get the memo that he's not playing anymore. It's fantastic, 448 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: But like Aaron Glenn was like the strong, silent type 449 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: and Calvin is like, I'm gonna get in your fix 450 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: and MFU. 451 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: But I was like, all right, I'm not worried about 452 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the Lions. 453 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Frank rag Now, then that whole thing honestly made me 454 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: more worried about the coordinator changes and the staffing changes. 455 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm still not totally convinced when you're starting two young 456 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: players on the offensive line that that's going to go 457 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: terribly well. But Jared goff Is, you know, he's good. 458 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: He's a good quarterback, he's experienced quarterback. He can make 459 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: up for some of those developmental things that come to 460 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: the offensive line. But then you're right, green Bay trades. 461 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: For Mike Parsons changes that everyway. 462 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: It changed everything, not only just for the North, but 463 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: it changed everything for the entire NFC. Like their odds 464 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: just catapulted. But more than that, I mean, the biggest 465 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: thing that you wanted out of Green Bay last year 466 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: a you wanted more consistency with Jordan Loves. So Jordan 467 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: Love has to stay healthy in order for this to work. 468 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: But you got the number one wide receiver in the draft, 469 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: the first the first first round wide receiver that the 470 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: Packers have picked since I think two thousand and five 471 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: something like that, or maybe. 472 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five. I think it was nineteen ninety five, 473 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: nineteen it was like in the nineties. No, it was 474 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: a long time ago. 475 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: And so now you have a number one wide receiver 476 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: for Jordan Love, you have Josh Jacobs in the backfield. 477 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: You feel good about your offensive line, even though you 478 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: didn't really know where everybody was playing until late in 479 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: training camp. But then this defense in the second year 480 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: under Jeff Halfley. I think Xavier McKinney last year he 481 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: really masked a lot of issues, especially with the pass 482 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: rush by getting all those takeaways. But you combine that 483 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: with a real deal pass rush, and if either Rashaan Gary, 484 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, becomes the Shawn Gary of three years ago, 485 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: or another. 486 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: Michigan man, Tersey not to go blue, but you yeah. 487 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: Or Lucas VanNess if you get a step forward from him, 488 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: and I think that that has to happen when you 489 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: have the threat of Micah Parsons on the other side. 490 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: Now. 491 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: So this is just such a complete team and it's 492 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: very well coach Matt Laflour is one of the best 493 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: coaches in the league, and I just I can't think 494 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: that that's not going to happen with the NFC, nor 495 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: that I know I went long on this, but this 496 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: is the division that is near and dear to my heart. 497 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: So I also picked the Packers to win the NFC North. 498 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: They were always you know, they're always there, They're always 499 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: right there. 500 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: Like they could win. 501 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: And that's just kind of the culture that they've built 502 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: and the way that Brian gooton Kunz has been able 503 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: to kind of sustain success there. But good lord, I mean, 504 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: if that, if Michael Parsons doesn't get you over the 505 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: hump on top of you know, as long as Jordan 506 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: Love stays healthy, they're a scary team. 507 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 508 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: I think they're very, very scary team. And you're right, 509 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: it changed the entire NFC. 510 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to NFC South, which I'm going 511 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: to try to be quicker on even though this is 512 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: like like if I'm a fan anymore, I'm like I 513 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: always say I had the fan beat out of me 514 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: by working in this. 515 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: Industry for so long. 516 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: But if I am a fan, it is still of 517 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers who I worked for for six years, have 518 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: so many friends still out on that team. So I'm 519 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: a massive Buccaneers fan, and I need to understand why 520 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: after four years of winning the division that they are 521 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: not getting their respect. They deserve everybody. We do this 522 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: every single year with the Bucks. It's like, well, I 523 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, Atlanta could come out of nowhere, 524 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: who knows, And I'm like, no, this is a good team. 525 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: This is a very good team. The Buccaneers are. 526 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: They went to the division around two years ago, made 527 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: the playoffs again last year, won the division. Like I 528 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: know it's not a great division, but when are we 529 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: going to give the Buccaneers their due? 530 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 531 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: If you have somebody different, I would I mean, I 532 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: would say the Buccaneers for all the reasons that actually 533 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 4: would make sense and on paper and statistically and everything 534 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: you just said. 535 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: But just for fun, I'm going to say that Falcons 536 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: like a thing. 537 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it is like the little like that's the 538 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: that's the moment, Like the Falcons are like the moment. 539 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: They're the fun team of the moment. To like, pick 540 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: against the hipster team of the moment if you will. 541 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I like the hipster team at the moment. And honestly, 542 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: I'm nothing if not a hipster, which no one's ever 543 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: called me that, But I'm going to go my hipster 544 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 4: team at the. 545 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: Moment is the Atlanta Falcons. 546 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcon. You know, I like that defense should be 547 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: very very good, and you're it's riding on Michael Pennix. 548 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: Can he be the guy? 549 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: Can he be the guy? We'll see, We'll see. 550 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 6: Uh. 551 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: The NFC East, I don't know. After Thursday and then 552 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: being down Jaylen Carter uh and A J. Brown not 553 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: getting a target until very late in the fourth quarter 554 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: and it not seeming to matter all that much. 555 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: I have to go with the Eagles. 556 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: I just I'm going to go with Eagles as well. 557 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: But I think it'd be really funny if the Cowboys wanted. 558 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 4: I don't know why I would find that absolutely hilarious. 559 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go with the Eagles as well. 560 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: Okay, NFC West, We're just gonna get through the NFC 561 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: right now because and then we'll get to Super Bowl, 562 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: and then we got to get to a break. I 563 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: always go along and MC West. I have rams, actually, 564 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: but I have a healing I know who you. 565 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: Really I got rams. I've had rams. I've said actually, 566 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: I publicly. 567 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: At least on my Instagram said like a month and 568 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: a half ago, Matthew Stafford stays healthy. 569 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: The Rams are going to the Super Bowl. Oh, I 570 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: just did part of my prediction. 571 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: Okay, well then let's fast forward I know when and 572 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: get the AFC. 573 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Sorry, guys. 574 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: Super Bowl prediction. I think I have a fun one. 575 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: I have Green Bay Buffalo. 576 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: Oh that is a fun one. Yeah, that's a very 577 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: fun one. Mine is so dependent on Matthew Stafford. But 578 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: I would go rams Buffalo. But I would say if 579 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: if Matthew Safford is not healthy, then I would agree 580 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: with yours. And that is a fun super Bowl in California. 581 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of love the idea of these 582 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: two freezing weather teams. 583 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: Playing the super Bowl in California in February. Don't hate it. 584 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: That would be funny. 585 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Okay, we are going to have to go to an 586 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: update break and Martin Weiss, are you there? 587 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Is it me you're looking for? Yeah, it isn't fat play. 588 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 7: I am here and college football in full swing a 589 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 7: lot of these games, you know, do you? 590 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 8: Glass is the opponent there? 591 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 7: I'll start at Ohio State twenty one to nothing over 592 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 7: Grambling two, twelve to fifty left in the first half, 593 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 7: Oregon over Oklahoma State twenty to nothing, and Oregon is 594 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 7: just this has been Dan Lanning every so Watson just 595 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 7: comes out and is like, I'm gonna whoop somebody. That's 596 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 7: the feeling of this game right now, because it feels 597 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 7: like Oregon is just trying to put the woodshed to 598 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 7: Oklahoma State. Thirteen thirty left in the first half. There, 599 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 7: Troy has a seven to nothing lead over Clemson. That 600 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 7: game's in a rain delay. Austin Pete and Georgia the 601 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 7: Bulldogs with a fourteen to three lead over I forget 602 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 7: what Austin. 603 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 8: P's mascot is. 604 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 7: I used to know this, but I forget it right 605 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 7: now in this moment, they're also going a rain delay. 606 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 8: The governors. 607 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 7: Somebody google that Tennessee right now, the twenty second rate 608 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 7: team in the nation with the thirty one to nothing 609 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 7: lead over East Tennessee State with twelve minutes left in 610 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 7: the first half. 611 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 8: End of the first quarter. 612 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: Kentucky with they are the governors, We'll just. 613 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 8: Go and yeah, I was, I'm gonna stay right there 614 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 8: with the win. I'm gonna stay right there with the win. 615 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 8: I almost almost turned to win into a loss. I'll 616 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 8: stay with the win. 617 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 7: Kentucky with they said nothing lead over twenty aeth ranth 618 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 7: Old miss at the start of the second quarter, and 619 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 7: Florida lead. I'm sorry, Florida and South Florida scoreless, Florida 620 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 7: thirteenth rane team. 621 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 8: In the nation with just under nine minutes left in 622 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 8: the first quarter. Back to you guys, Thank. 623 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: You, Martin very much appreciate that. 624 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it was spinning that we went so 625 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: long on the NFC North because we have somebody coming 626 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: on the line right now from WGN Sports. It's my 627 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: very good friend Caitlin Sharky covers the Bears will be 628 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 2: there Monday night. 629 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: Shark How the heck are you? 630 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 10: I'm so good, so good to be with you guys, 631 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 10: and I'm looking forward to Monday night. It feels like 632 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 10: forever since I've covered an actual football game that matters, 633 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 10: So I'm very anxious to get this Monday night football 634 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 10: game underwear. 635 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: All right, Well start there. 636 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: Let's start with the preseason and what you saw. You 637 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: were at camp all preseason long. Bears did well in 638 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: the preseason. What was different about this year? Has there 639 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: been anything tangibly different? And what is that? What is 640 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that you've noticed under the Ben Johnson era. 641 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's just the way they go about 642 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 10: their business, the way they practice a culture shift for sure, right, 643 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 10: Like the practices were much more intense under Ben Johnson 644 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 10: than they ever were with Matt Eberflus, maybe even sometimes 645 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 10: a little too physical, But I think that was great. 646 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 10: That was needed, That momentum shift was certainly needed. I 647 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 10: think the coaching from Ben Johnson to Caleb Williams was 648 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 10: vastly different than what we saw with Matt Eberflus than 649 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 10: Shane Waldron and Caleb Williams. So I think for me 650 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 10: it was like, Okay, this is the real deal. Like 651 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 10: Ben's not playing around. 652 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 11: He would be very. 653 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 10: Open and honest with us as reporters about like, hey, 654 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 10: like this is a situation we're not good enough and here, here, 655 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 10: and here, and that's not something we heard ever from 656 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 10: the coaching staff last season, which I thought was shocking 657 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 10: because it was a five win season. We never heard 658 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 10: like we need to be better here, Caleb needs to 659 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 10: be better the old line, the defense, like we never 660 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 10: heard any of that. So for me, it was like, Okay, 661 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 10: we'd go through camp in the preseason and these preseason 662 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 10: games and Ben would be like that wasn't good enough, 663 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 10: and that wasn't good enough, and that wasn't good enough, 664 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 10: even the old line coaches and the assistance like that 665 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 10: was such a refreshing twist of like, hey, we're holding 666 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 10: everybody accountable. We need to coach these players, and we 667 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 10: have a certain expectation that it needs the mess. 668 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: Caitlin, I have a question. 669 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 4: I look at this game, and I look at the quarterbacks, 670 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: and I feel like in week one, overreaction mode, it 671 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: feels like a game where whichever quarterback plays well is 672 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: going to Canton and whichever quarterback doesn't play well should probably. 673 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: Just hang it up. Right now, Does it feel like 674 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: there's that kind of pressure on this. 675 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think there's certainly more pressure on 676 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 10: Caleb Williams. Right, being a number one overall pick and 677 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 10: this is year two. You've got all the toys that 678 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 10: you need to play with, you have the head coach 679 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 10: that everyone wanted you to have, and so it's like 680 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 10: a perfect storm for Caleb Williams. For Jayday, it's like, okay, 681 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 10: like there's going to be emotions, right whether or not 682 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 10: he thinks, you know, Minnesota, he called this Minnesota's now home. 683 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 10: It's not Chicago, like he grew up not far from 684 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 10: Soldier Field, So it's one of those things where like 685 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 10: emotion's gonna fuel the anticipation. But there's great coaching in Minnesota. 686 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 10: Look what they did with Sam Darnold, So can they 687 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 10: do that with J. J. McCarthy and a rookie quarterback. 688 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 10: There's so much unknown, But for Caleb Williams, he doesn't 689 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 10: have the luxury I think of the unknown. So for him, 690 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 10: he's like, Okay, I have to come out. I have 691 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 10: to show out. If he doesn't, I think we're going 692 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 10: to know pretty early on in this season. They have 693 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 10: a really tough first chunk of their schedule. I think 694 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 10: we're going to learn pretty soon what Caleb Williams is 695 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 10: and what kind of quarterback he is in year two. 696 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: And we've heard Ben Jonson talk about you know, I 697 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: think he's very he doesn't sugarcoat it. He's very realistic 698 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: about everything, like this is not a finished product. This 699 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: is not going to be a finished product this entire 700 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: year most likely. And they threw a lot at Caleb, 701 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: So what do you think are realistic expectations for the 702 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: beginning of the season where they did overhaul both sides 703 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: of the ball, and they did. Now Caleb has learned 704 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: a completely new system. He's changed his footwork. He's done 705 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: so many things differently and was not it wasn't Ben 706 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: didn't take it easy on him. 707 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: So what do you think is realistic to start? Like, 708 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: when do you panic? 709 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: If like, if they don't win right off the bat, 710 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: when do you start panting? 711 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 11: Yeah? 712 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 10: I think for me it's like it's always Kelly when 713 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 10: the head coach is like, hey, hey, hey, we're not atist. 714 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: Everybody slowed down. 715 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 10: I think it's very Telly when a head coach is like, Okay, 716 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 10: all I want him to do is win the game. 717 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 10: So for me, I think Ben Johnson's approaching this and 718 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 10: Caleb Williams the same. To me, a successful season is 719 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 10: an eight win season. 720 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 11: They haven't really sub schedule right, and this is. 721 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 10: A whole offense for Caleb Williams. Doesn't matter how much 722 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 10: they've improved the old line. That of course it matters, 723 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 10: but like not in terms of like Okay, that's now 724 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 10: going to beat the Ravens or that it's now going 725 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 10: to be like like it's one of those things where 726 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 10: it's like incremental sets. And I think for Ben Johnson 727 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 10: he's like, all I want to do is win games. 728 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 10: So I think for the important part for Caleb and 729 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 10: Ben Johnson, this entire team, it's like to do what's 730 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 10: expected and not do more, not do less. And so 731 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 10: for Caleb it's like, Okay, you're going to say some 732 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 10: tough opponents to come in prepared, ready to go work hard. 733 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 10: You've learned so much. 734 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 11: But it's also a. 735 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 10: Game by game kind of game plan. So I mean 736 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 10: the fact that Ben Johnson was like, I don't even 737 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 10: know what our offensive identity is, that's pretty telling of 738 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 10: his roster as well. He's like, I want to run 739 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 10: the ball. You can tell he wants to run the ball. 740 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 10: Lean on the run game early on, especially when Caleb's 741 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 10: working out the Kings, especially the pre snap stuff. But 742 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 10: for me, it's like there's going to be some bumps, 743 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 10: like it can't come out firing. They're not going to 744 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 10: hang forty points on to try. I mean, maybe they will, 745 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 10: but I have a hard problem when they're going to 746 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 10: go to just play and hating forty points on his 747 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 10: former team. So Ben Jonson would love that, of course, 748 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 10: But I don't think the offense like they've given Caleb 749 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 10: everything that he needs to be successful. It's just a 750 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 10: matter of how they execute and everybody executes the plans. 751 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 4: So with that being said, what is the vibe in 752 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: Chicago right now? Are fans prepared for that? Are fans 753 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: like if this team does not have a winning record 754 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 4: and go to the playoffs? 755 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm done? Like what is kind of the vibe right 756 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: now going into this Monday night game? 757 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 10: I think there's obviously like cautious optimism. I think is 758 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 10: it CAUs. 759 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't know? 760 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 10: Okay, So the Bear fans that come up to me 761 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 10: in like public or like friends, family, whatever, They'll be like, Okay, 762 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 10: you know, how are the Bears going to be? And 763 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 10: I think they're asking that question, and it's always followed 764 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 10: up by how is Caleb going to be? Because they know, 765 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 10: like this is such an important year for Caleb Williams 766 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 10: and it doesn't all fall on Caleb, Like obviously he 767 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 10: takes a huge part of this responsibility in the team's success, 768 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 10: but it doesn't all go on Caleb Williams. So for me, 769 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 10: I think you come off a five win season last 770 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 10: year amidst a bunch of turmoil that I'm sure you 771 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 10: guys have talked about already on the show and to 772 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 10: talk about. So it's like a five win season for 773 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 10: a rookie quarterback, different coaches, different offenses, all of these things. 774 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 10: Like for them to win eight nine games I think 775 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 10: would be a success. And I know bear stands are like, 776 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 10: we need this guy to be the answer. We need 777 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 10: to like be there, we need to win now, and 778 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 10: Ben Johnson wants to win now. But for me, it's 779 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 10: like there's going to be some bumps in the road, 780 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 10: And for me, it's like, how does the execution look 781 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 10: how does the situational football look? 782 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 11: Like? 783 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 10: Those little things that we didn't see last year, like 784 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 10: you know, timeouts not being used in hail Mary's, like 785 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 10: those types of situations. If those read are their head again, 786 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 10: then you're like, Okay, this is a problem. But if 787 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 10: those are eliminated and they're in close games and Caleb's 788 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 10: doing what he needs to do and the defense is 789 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 10: performing well, it's also a tough schedule. So it's like, Okay, 790 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 10: you're in the NFC North, You're in the NIF say 791 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 10: like it's going to be a battle, so understand where 792 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 10: you are where you need to go. 793 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: As an organization, I'm preaching patients from the rooftops around Chicago. 794 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: But Shark, thank you so much for joining us. I 795 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Have so much fun Monday night at 796 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: the game. Thank you so much. 797 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 10: Yes, thank you guys all too. 798 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: All right, you guys, we are going to come back 799 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 2: with the dues and the don'ts right after this. You're 800 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: listening to Fox Football Saturday. I don't even want to 801 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: come back like this is great. 802 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah you can't see me. I'm fully dancing in here. 803 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: Oh me too, Welcome back in to Fox Football Saturday. 804 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: Because football is in fact back, as are our dance 805 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: moves apparently. 806 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank god, no one can see me. 807 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: I love I love talking to people around the city 808 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: here in Chicago, which is where I'm broadcasting from, because 809 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: like it is, it just ranges the gamut. Because I 810 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: do feel like so many people, like Caitlyn said, we're 811 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: trying to Kaitlin Sharky, who was on with us from 812 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: WGN Sports. She was talking about like how you know, 813 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: people come up to her just wanting wanting to believe, 814 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: they want to believe, and I feel like this game, 815 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: in particular on Monday night, Tracy is like the people 816 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: that want to believe the most. Because Minnesota fans want 817 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: to believe in JJ McCarthy so bad. And you have 818 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: to because, like you know, you've got Kevin O'Connell. He's 819 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: in the best situation you can possibly be in this, 820 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: that and the other, and like Chicago is so starved. 821 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean when I tell you that, like, there is 822 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: a person it was one of my neighbors. I don't 823 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: know who it is that has a Wi Fi name 824 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: eighty five Bears. I'm like, that was I know, but 825 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: that was forty years ago. Like what are we doing? 826 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 9: Oh? 827 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: That kind of hurts my heart. I know I still 828 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: want and the Vikings. 829 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean I get it. I totally get it. 830 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: I love the Vikings too, Like I mean, I'm not 831 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: that's not a popular opinion around here in Chicago. 832 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: But I'm a full fan now, like full on fans. 833 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: They're an easy team to one person. 834 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: But I am a full on like school, I practiced 835 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 4: the chant. 836 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: That's still it's a great atmosphere if you get to 837 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: a game, good Lord or US Bank is incredible. God 838 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: willing the Bears will have a stadium just like it. 839 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: But all right, it's time for our next segment, The 840 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: dues and the don'ts of Sports. 841 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 6: Highlight, putting a spotlight on the don't the subject brings 842 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 6: me no joy. 843 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: That's insane. 844 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 6: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports. 845 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna start with don't Tracy, don't hold back. 846 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 11: Now. 847 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to Monday night, TCU North Carolina 848 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: in Chapel Hill, Bill Belichick's first game as a college coach. 849 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: The absolute hubris of this man to think that after 850 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 2: not winning without Tom Brady in New England, that he 851 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 2: can just go to a college Chapel Hill, which is 852 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's a basketball school. Hire his sons, hire 853 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 2: his friends, kick everybody else out and somehow win games. 854 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: And TCU went in there, curb stomped them forty eight 855 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: fourteen on Monday night. 856 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: And then the. 857 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 2: Piece there resistance of all of this, the TCU social 858 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: media account. 859 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: Got so good. 860 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god, just went in and 861 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 2: just kept trolling like all night. They were just quote 862 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: tweeting things like deadsmen, was like, hey, wake up, Bill 863 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: Belichi coaches college football today, and they quote tweeted it 864 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: and said, babe, go back to sleep, like just the 865 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: most hilarious, and they just kept going, They just kept going. 866 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: It was phenomenal and I wish that pro. 867 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: Teams college teams lean into that, lean into that. Because 868 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: the Internet is the wild West, you might as well 869 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: have some fun with it. 870 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: I agree with that one hundred. I have a don't 871 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 4: and a do all rolled into one. 872 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: Oh. 873 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm gonna start with the don't. Don't take 874 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: a bell ball away from the child. 875 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: So oh in last I have thoughts about this. We'll 876 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: get to that later. Okay. 877 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: Last night's Philly's Marlin's game. There's a football. He's a 878 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: home run ball. People go for it. 879 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 4: This this man, he it looks like he gets it 880 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: fair and square, brings it over to his son. This 881 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: woman comes marching over and saying it was hers and 882 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: it's a whole thing, and she takes the ball from him. 883 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: I don't like that. The do in this is that 884 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: the Phillies had the young man. 885 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: Come down after the game and the players autographed up 886 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 4: bat for him, and they got baseball. He got baseballs 887 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 4: and all kinds of fun things. But like, come on, guys, 888 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: it's it's a home run ball. 889 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: Let's it was. 890 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: For his son. It's one thing. 891 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean, like I don't know, like we've seen it 892 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: too where like guys, like rip the ball away from 893 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: like a little kid, and you're like. 894 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: What what are you doing? What are you doing? 895 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: H But then to see that, yeah, no, I have 896 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: I have thoughts, but that was I actually, I mean, 897 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: I found the whole situation was very, very funny, and 898 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: so that was gonna be that's that will be another 899 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: segment for me. But all right, I got another du 900 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: And it's not necessarily has to do social media or 901 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: anything like that. 902 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: It's just good practice, best practice. 903 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: In fact, okay, do just pay your good players, which 904 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 2: sounds like a very normal thing to do, but it's 905 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: something that the Cowboys somehow couldn't bring themselves to do 906 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: with Michael Parsons. 907 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: They trade him away and then as if. 908 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: To just be like, hey, it could be this easy, 909 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos this week signed Nick Benito to a 910 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: four year extension worth up to one hundred and twenty 911 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: million dollars seventy million guaranteed. He's a great player on 912 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: a great defense. It could all be so simple. Somebody 913 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: tell the Dallas Cowboys. 914 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: Somebody tell Dallas. I would say, my boy, that's. 915 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: Fair, that's fair. Col tell Dallas, period. 916 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 4: Just tell Dallas. And so there's my other dope Dallas. 917 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 4: Even though thank you for Lucas super appreciate it. 918 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: Stop trading away. 919 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: Off your fans, oh your bets layers and upsetting your 920 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 4: fan bases. 921 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: The point is the fans want to buy tickets and merch. 922 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: You're doing nothing to help that. 923 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: Ugh, Dallas Sports might be dead all right? 924 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: Coming up hour two, we're gonna do a worst of 925 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: first segment and who could do it this year? Stay 926 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: tuned you're listening to Fox Football Saturday. Welcome back to 927 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: hour two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm Carmel Vitali coming 928 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 2: to you live from Chicago, Illinois, and I'm one CEO 929 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: of Fangirls Sports Network and forty nine Ers Beat reporter 930 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: Tracy Sandler, who is back in our LA studios. 931 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: We're having a ball now that football. 932 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: Is back and for the best pregame show every weekend, 933 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radios. Countdown to Kickoff, 934 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: presented by bet MGM. Every Saturday and Sunday morning. We 935 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 2: will count you down to all of the biggest games 936 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: for three hours right up until kickoff. For all of 937 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: the best plays and up to the second injury news, 938 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 2: tune in to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM 939 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports 940 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Tracy clire Me, one of 941 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 2: the things that I love the most about the NFL 942 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: is that. 943 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: You never know what's gonna happen. 944 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: So true. 945 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: It is the ultimate parody league. You know you talk about, 946 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: although it's gotten better, I will say, you know, the 947 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: NBA has mixed up their champions but for a while there, 948 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: it was like the same four teams were winning it 949 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: every year and that the other. The NFL is truly 950 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: just a roll of the dice in so many different ways. 951 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: And when you think about the fact that the playoff 952 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: field overturns by about half every year, which sounds insane 953 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: because it almost feels like, you know, when you're doing 954 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: these predictions, like you're like, well, I can't really imagine 955 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: any other team winning. 956 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: The NFC East or what this that the other, but 957 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: it can happen. 958 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: So and I have a feeling you're gonna like this 959 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: segment trace worse to first. 960 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: Who could do it? 961 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 4: First of all, I just want you to know I 962 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: like all your segments. Oh so I just want you 963 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 4: to know that right off to that. Secondly, this is 964 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 4: a good one. 965 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: It's fun. 966 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: It's fun because I do it happens, it happens nearly 967 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 2: every year. And I think that there are a few 968 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: teams that could be in the running. And I think 969 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: that some people might be even prized by what I'm 970 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: about to say. 971 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: But I want to hear yours first. 972 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: Give me your first team that you think could go 973 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: worse to first, And again I think I have an angling. 974 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think you think I'm going to 975 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: say forty nine ers and I have them. 976 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,479 Speaker 3: I have them in there. 977 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I. 978 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 4: Do have them in there as a possibility. I just 979 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 4: think the season is going to be a little up 980 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 4: and down on defense just because of the youth on 981 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 4: the defense and how many of those guys did not 982 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 4: play in the preseason or have training camp because they 983 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 4: were hurt. 984 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: And then there's a Christian McCaffrey angle. 985 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 4: And I will say this, they elevated a couple of 986 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 4: players today, none of whom are running backs. And they 987 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 4: have a running back that's doubtful to play tomorrow. So 988 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 4: that makes me think they think he will play tomorrow. However, 989 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 4: this Christian McCaffrey thing is a huge part of it. 990 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 4: But let's put all that aside, and I would say, yes, 991 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers certainly are a team that has 992 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 4: a chance. 993 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: I have a couple others, but now I'd like to 994 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 3: hear what you have to say. 995 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So obviously I also think that the 996 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 2: you know, the forty nineers are candidates do it. Although 997 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: I did predict that, I think the Rams are gonna 998 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: take that a night divisions, yeah, but this is this 999 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 2: is who could do it, And I do think that 1000 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers have a very strong case to 1001 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 2: do that, because I did. They they were just they 1002 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: were not as bad as what their record indicated last year. 1003 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: The injuries got to them. We all know that. I 1004 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: have a really fun one. Oh exciting the Tennessee Titans. 1005 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I guess I think that towards this tail end 1006 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 2: of last year, I think the Titans got a lot better. 1007 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: And then you add in cam Ward, who is like 1008 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: the least talked about number one overall pick ever that 1009 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 2: I can remember in the last like ten years. 1010 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like, why aren't we talking more about him? 1011 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: He looked good in the preseason, and like if any 1012 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: one player can change a franchise. 1013 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: It's a quarterback, correct, and it's a guy like cam Ward. 1014 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: I just I he's so dynamic and his skill set 1015 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: is so good, and like if he turns out to 1016 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: be I don't want to say half the player, like 1017 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: three quarters of the player that we think he could be, 1018 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: this could be a really good team. And I think 1019 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: that that defensive line last year underperformed. I thought they 1020 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: were gonna be a lot better than they were. But 1021 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: I do think that they've made some additions and I 1022 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: think that they could be better this year. And the 1023 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: AFC South is it's totally up for grabs because I 1024 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: have so many questions about the Houston Texans right now, 1025 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 2: including like. 1026 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: They didn't know Slash. 1027 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if they they know now, like who's 1028 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: starting on the offensive line in front of c J. 1029 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: Stroud? 1030 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 2: And yes, they have like the incredible defense, and I 1031 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: think that they have the best pass rushing duo in 1032 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 2: the league when you talk about Denil Hunter and Willie Anderson. 1033 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: But if CJ. Stroud keeps getting. 1034 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 2: Sacked at this rate because his offensive line can't hold 1035 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 2: up for him, then what are we What are we doing? 1036 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't. 1037 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't trust that I would trust an up and 1038 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: coming team at the very least. 1039 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm leaving the. 1040 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: Door open for some fun stuff to happen in the 1041 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: AFC South, and I think it could be the Tennessee 1042 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: Titans well. 1043 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 4: And I think, going back to what you said about 1044 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 4: cam Moredon not being talked about, he has been like 1045 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 4: the least talked about number one pick. I mean that 1046 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 4: I can ever remember. I think that's a benefit for 1047 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 4: them because I think they can be this thinking about 1048 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 4: no one's talking about, and they can very quietly start 1049 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 4: winning some games and maybe pull away with that division. 1050 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 3: I like it. I like the Titans as a pick. 1051 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: We're talking about like hipster picks here. 1052 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 3: We are big into hipster picks. 1053 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm big into it because you know what, like I 1054 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: can call my shot and if it happens, great and 1055 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: I will will not shut up about it, and if 1056 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen, I'd be like, well, you know, it's 1057 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 2: just a prediction. 1058 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 3: So it's a prediction. Was like a maybe, right right? 1059 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: It was like it was, It's a it's a win 1060 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: win situation here for me. Okay, do you have who 1061 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 2: do you have else, who else. 1062 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: Do you think? 1063 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 9: So? 1064 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 4: I have, well, what I mentioned when I picked them 1065 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 4: as my hipster vibe pick in the Falcons to win 1066 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 4: the NFC South. But since I guess I've talked about them. 1067 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 3: How do we feel about the New England Patriots? 1068 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: Ooh I love that? 1069 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: Thank you? 1070 00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: I thought you? Doesn't doesn't? 1071 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: Don't We have like a clip of Jonas saying that, 1072 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 2: Oh I love that. 1073 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I just thought of right now. But yes, no, 1074 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: I love that. 1075 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: I obviously, you know, Rabes just fits because he's been 1076 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: a Patriot his whole life. 1077 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: Essentially. I love Drake May. 1078 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 3: I know he's great. I really like him too. I 1079 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 3: think this team has got a lot of potential. 1080 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 4: I'm actually pretty excited, clearly because I pick them, but 1081 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 4: I'm pretty excited about the New England Patriots. I think 1082 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 4: this one could end up being really, really fun. 1083 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: The biggest question though, is like can they get past 1084 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: the bills? Like that's that's what keeps that That's what 1085 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: kept me from putting them on this list where I'm 1086 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: just like, oh no, no, I can conceivably say that 1087 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots can get like I think they 1088 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 2: could become a wildcard team, but actually winning the division 1089 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: is it's gonna be difficult. 1090 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 3: I would say they could. They could. 1091 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 4: When I look at these worst to first too, I 1092 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 4: mean I know it's literally worse to first, So can 1093 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 4: they win the division? 1094 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 3: But to me, from where. 1095 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 4: The Patriots were, if they're a wild card team, they've 1096 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 4: kind of gone worse to first in my face. 1097 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: No, that's it. 1098 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: That's a vast improvement from where they were. And again, 1099 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: like if you if Drake May, I mean I thought 1100 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 2: he was great last year and when he came in 1101 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: and I was really worried about him, but you know, 1102 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: it worked, and if he continues that trajectory, I just 1103 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: I love him. I loved him coming out of the draft. 1104 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 2: I thought that he was just he's so smart, and 1105 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: he comes from an athletic family, a very athletic family, 1106 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 2: and like the younger brother of like the family of 1107 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: athletes is always the good one, you know what I mean, 1108 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 2: Like they because they got pushed by their older brothers. 1109 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: So I just I had so. 1110 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 2: Much faith, which is a very obviously scientific and stat 1111 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 2: heavy analysis of Drake May. But I've had faith in 1112 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 2: Drake May for a while and now I just I 1113 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: want to see it come to fruition. 1114 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: So I love that pick. All right, I have one more. 1115 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 2: And I think people areuld be surprised by this because 1116 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: of the way that I talk about them. But if 1117 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: we're talking about who could go worse first, you have 1118 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 2: to talk about the Chicago Bears. 1119 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I here's. 1120 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: Why I'm going to tell you why I like, I 1121 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: want I think that this is a real possibility. As 1122 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: much as I believe that this is the Packer's division 1123 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 2: now now that they have Mica Parsons, but this division 1124 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: isn't going to take fifteen games to win again because 1125 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 2: of the schedule that this division has to play. Not 1126 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 2: only do they have to play each other, so they're 1127 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 2: going to cannibalize each other. They're all very good teams, 1128 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: but they all then they all have to play the 1129 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 2: AFC North in the NFC East, And I'm like, oh 1130 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 2: my god, Like, where where would fifteen wins even come 1131 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: from for one of these teams? Like, it's just not 1132 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 2: going to happen. And so if it only takes only 1133 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 2: if it only takes eleven or twelve wins to get 1134 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: to win this division, all four of these teams are 1135 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: capable of getting to twelve wins. Now, likely that's a 1136 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 2: different that's a different talking point entirely, But could it 1137 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 2: happen When you look at the roster that the Chicago 1138 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 2: Bears have, they have a lot of talent. And if 1139 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is the truth and he finally coached Caleb 1140 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 2: Williams the way that Caleb Williams wants to be coached, 1141 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 2: and Caleb finally starts to see the game the way 1142 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: that Ben Johnson sees the game, and then they get 1143 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: into the fun type of wrinkles and the pettiness that 1144 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is so known for, and then the defense 1145 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 2: gets back to the dominating you know. I mean their 1146 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: defense was not bad under Maddie Perflues. 1147 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 1: Last year. 1148 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 2: It went off the rails, but Maddie Refluse, whatever you 1149 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: think about, the guy can call a defense. If this 1150 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 2: defense under Dennis Allen can get back to that aggressive 1151 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: kind of just attitude that we've come to know from 1152 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: Bears defenses, I mean that combined with you know, there's 1153 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: gonna be a complete uptake in man coverage because that 1154 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 2: is somebody That is something that Dennis sound loves to do, 1155 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: is that two man and you get Jalen Johnson, your 1156 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: best defensive player in those lockdown situations, provided he's healthy, 1157 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 2: because we don't know if he's actually gonna start on Monday. 1158 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 2: But like, if everybody's healthy on this defense and you 1159 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 2: have this scheme, like you can lean on them while 1160 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: well Caleb kind of gets adjusted to, you know, the 1161 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: system and all of that kind of stuff, even if 1162 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 2: it takes a little while and that learning curve is 1163 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: a little long. If this defense is what we think 1164 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 2: it could be under Dennis Allen, they could absolutely mitigate 1165 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 2: any sort of damage that's done during that learning curve process. 1166 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 2: And this is a team that could start ascending at 1167 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 2: just the right time, So they could the Bears could 1168 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 2: go from worse to first. I'm not saying they're going to, 1169 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 2: but they. 1170 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: Could, but they could. 1171 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 3: They definitely could. 1172 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 4: And it's interesting when you talk about the Bears that way, 1173 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 4: it's like the forty nine ers of the opposite issue 1174 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 4: is they have this very young defense, very inexperienced, and 1175 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 4: the offense is going to have to kind of make 1176 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 4: up for them, and they may ascend at the right 1177 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 4: time too, because in theory in November December, that defense 1178 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: is going to be a lot better than is September October. 1179 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 4: And that's why my big maybe is Christian McCaffrey for 1180 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 4: that sure, but I think it's almost there, kind of 1181 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 4: opposite in that way, which is fun. I also wrote 1182 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 4: down just a couple of potential most improved tea Oh okay, yeah, 1183 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 4: and I actually had the Bears as one of them, 1184 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 4: but I'm going. 1185 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: To also say the Raiders and potentially the Jets. 1186 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: Yes, No, I love that because again, I don't think 1187 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: that the Raiders are going to get past the Chiefs 1188 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: or the Broncos or maybe the Chargers, but I do 1189 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: think they're going to be a lot better just with 1190 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 2: the improvements that they've made and with Pete Carroll, and 1191 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: I just I have to think that they're they're they're 1192 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 2: gonna be fun. And I think the Jets could be too, 1193 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: because I am a big believer in Aaron Glenn from 1194 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 2: when he was in Detroit. I got to talk to 1195 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 2: him multiple times, actually sit down with him, and he's 1196 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 2: just he gets it, you know. And I really really 1197 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 2: like what they've done in New York, and I think that, yeah, 1198 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 2: I really it'll be interesting to see if they can 1199 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 2: get Justin Fields to do something that he wasn't able 1200 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: to do here in Chicago. But I'm with you. I 1201 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: think both of those teams could be vastly improved. Not 1202 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: win the division necessarily yet, but vastly improved. 1203 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: Is that's that's a win for both of those fan bases. 1204 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, though, Are we concerned that Amari Cooper cant again 1205 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 4: one day and was like, yeah, now I'm out, I 1206 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 4: don't want to do this thing. 1207 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: I think that has to be more of like he realized, 1208 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 2: he was just it's not up for it. 1209 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 4: And I don't know, so much funnier to think of 1210 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 4: it the other way it is. 1211 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: That's true, it's like, oh, this team's not going to 1212 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. 1213 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 4: I think you're right, But it's so much funnier to 1214 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 4: think that he stepped out to practice and. 1215 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, no, no, I don't believe this. Bye, 1216 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 3: oh my god. 1217 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're gonna have a little bit more fun 1218 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 2: because we're gonna talk about X factors for this season, 1219 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 2: not just players, not just coaches, but maybe executives, rule changes, whatever, 1220 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: something that could have a drastic implication on the rest 1221 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 2: of the season. 1222 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: On the other side of this break, you're listening. 1223 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 2: To Fox Football Saturday you guys have been on one 1224 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 2: today with the music just banger after banger. I absolutely 1225 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Welcome back into Fox Football Saturday. Carmen Vitally 1226 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 2: here with you, and I've got Tracy Sandler holding it 1227 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 2: down in the LA studios. We are celebrating it finally 1228 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 2: being week one. 1229 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: Of the twenty twenty five season. Tracy, can you believe it? 1230 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 3: I cannot, but I love it. It's like real football. 1231 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: Real football. Like I said, there's a chill in the 1232 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: air Lisi or Chicago. 1233 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not one here, but I'm talking now. 1234 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: Uh, And it's just like like, yeah, there's there's a 1235 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 2: different energy. Things just feel different, they feel back aligned. 1236 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: You know. 1237 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 2: The off season is so interesting too, and I'm sure 1238 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 2: you get this too, Trace, where like people ask me, like, 1239 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 2: what do you do in the off season, I'm like, Honestly, 1240 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 2: my job's harder in the off season because like you're 1241 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 2: having to manufacture storylines, narratives, things that you need to 1242 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: talk about because it's just like, all right, how many 1243 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: different times can I say like, oh, I don't know 1244 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 2: how it's gonna go with Ben Johnson and Chicago, Like 1245 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: there is so much that you have to kind of prognosticate, 1246 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: and we are finally done with the prognostication, except we're 1247 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 2: not because something we're I'm gonna ask you to do 1248 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 2: it for this segment. But like you know, like the 1249 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 2: prognostication era is pretty much over, Like we we now 1250 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 2: get to like starting next week, we will have a 1251 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: full slate of games to have talked about, to preview 1252 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: this that the other, and have like real deal news 1253 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 2: to talk about. I don't know, do you You do 1254 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 2: you find that too? 1255 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: I do. 1256 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 4: I also find that there's not really an off season 1257 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 4: because absolutely right after the super Bowl we have the 1258 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 4: combine and then freegency and then oders meetings, and then 1259 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 4: the draft and then rookie Minnie camp and so yes, 1260 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 4: but in all of that is the prognosticating because it's 1261 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 4: really you can talk about whose draft, you can talk 1262 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 4: about the fregient signings, but then it's prognosticating, well, how 1263 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 4: big of a difference will he make? 1264 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 3: What you know, what will this be? 1265 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 11: Oh? 1266 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 3: These coaches was fired, this was hired? How is it 1267 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 3: going to change? 1268 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 4: So it's still the prognosticating, And yes, at a certain 1269 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 4: point you can only talk about it so much much 1270 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 4: I'd like it. I can only say how many times, 1271 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 4: like so many times at the Fortnighters wide receiver room 1272 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 4: was kind of messy, but now it's not, and here we. 1273 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 2: Are right and like and I get it, and fans 1274 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 2: like a pick up on that too. I'm sure, like 1275 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 2: you know, for all of our listeners, I'm sure that 1276 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 2: you've you've rolled your eyes multiple times, like in any 1277 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 2: off season, being like, oh my god, they're talking about 1278 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 2: this again, or like, why are they talking about this? 1279 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: Trust me, we get it too. There's just not a 1280 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 1: whole lot else to talk about, right, So now we're 1281 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: gonna have real things to talk about. I promised me. 1282 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: I promise you we will. 1283 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: With the iHeartRadio app, though, you can and all of 1284 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: those things that we're going to talk about this season 1285 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 2: wherever you happen to be, catch us and all of 1286 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven 1287 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: and the new and. 1288 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: Improved iHeartRadio app. 1289 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app and stream 1290 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 2: us live all day every day, and be sure to 1291 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 2: select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in 1292 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 2: the iHeart app so it will always pop up at 1293 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: the top of your screen, just like an analog little 1294 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 2: you know thing in your car you can you can 1295 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 2: preset Fox Sports Radio because we're all about taking it 1296 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 2: back to like the nineties and early two thousands at 1297 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 2: this point. Like anything I can do to like recapture 1298 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 2: that nostalgia, Tracy, I just I do it. 1299 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 3: I like that. I understand that. I'm on board. 1300 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: It was a better time, all right. 1301 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 2: So I said that, you know, after all of that 1302 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: about the prognostication, one more segment of prognosticating, Well. 1303 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 1: The game. 1304 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 3: We only had two games so far, so right. 1305 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 1: Right, we covered that. 1306 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 2: You know, I want to talk about X factors and 1307 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 2: not in the sense of like, oh, well this guy 1308 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 2: could win. 1309 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 1: This game for this team. 1310 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: No, I want to talk about X factors for this 1311 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 2: season that will drastically alter the course of the season 1312 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 2: as a whole for either a team, for the league, whatever, 1313 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 2: but like will have a huge impact on this season 1314 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 2: and maybe even beyond. So I will start with probably 1315 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 2: the most obvious because it's and I'm gonna start with 1316 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 2: the player, but it's MICHAEH. 1317 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: Parsons. 1318 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 2: Yes, uh, and it is because of what he did. 1319 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you can see it. Vegas doesn't lie. So 1320 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 2: you see the line now, on the Packers winning not 1321 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 2: only the NFC nor but potentially the Super Bowl at 1322 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: this point, because if there was a weakness on this 1323 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 2: Packers team last year outside of the continuity and the 1324 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 2: injuries to Jordan Left and them not knowing what the 1325 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: heck they were doing, who they were throwing to, all 1326 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff, all those all those minor things, no, 1327 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 2: I mean, their their greatest asset was was and ended 1328 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 2: up being their biggest crutch. But I have to say that, 1329 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: like Micah Parsons being at it and Brian Gooton, go's 1330 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 2: pulling the trigger on this because. 1331 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: This was Mike Parsons was not cheap to get. 1332 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 2: You give up multiple first round picks form, which, to 1333 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 2: be fair, I think is justified and warranted when you're 1334 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: talking about one of, if not the best pass rusher 1335 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 2: in the league joining a team that has a. 1336 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: Lot of really good pieces on it as it is. 1337 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 2: But this could significantly alter the course of the Packers franchise, 1338 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 2: whether or not they end up winning the Super Bowl. 1339 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 2: Like if this doesn't go well, now you've given up 1340 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 2: two first round picks, and granted, you know, even if 1341 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't go well for the Packers, like that's they're 1342 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 2: still probably a wild card team and so like you're 1343 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 2: still picking you know that those first round picks for 1344 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: the Cowboys or like in the late you know, in 1345 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: the twenties, but like, I don't know, like this this 1346 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 2: is a potentially just completely it completely altered the NFC 1347 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 2: landscape for me, where I was like, yeah, the Eagles 1348 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 2: are totally poised to repeat as champs. And then you 1349 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 2: look at like the Packers, who are going to be 1350 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 2: battle tested too in this division, and if they can 1351 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 2: come out of that because they have Micah Parsons and 1352 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: they have a real deal pass rush and they're still 1353 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 2: taking the ball away and the offense is humming on 1354 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 2: all cylinders or you know whatever that. 1355 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 3: That I knew where you were going. 1356 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, where I was going. I was like, I messed 1357 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: up with metaphors. It's okay. I just that that alters 1358 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: the course of you know, the NFC for for me. 1359 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 4: Well, and I also am I don't see how it 1360 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 4: can't go well, like you know, famous. 1361 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: Last words I'm talking on right now, we're walking on. 1362 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 4: The knock all the wood. But from a talent perspective, 1363 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 4: it's sure. So there's I won't say the word. But 1364 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 4: there are things that can happen that would make it 1365 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 4: not go well this season. But from a talent fit perspective, 1366 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 4: oh yeah, I don't know how it couldn't go well. 1367 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 2: No, if you want to get pressure with four, put 1368 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons on that line. 1369 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and. 1370 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 2: And you'll be able to get pressure with four. So yes, 1371 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: that's that's my first one. I actually have a couple 1372 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 2: of players in this. But but let let's hear your 1373 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 2: first X factor. 1374 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna I have the ones that you would 1375 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 4: think I would have, but I'm going to go with 1376 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 4: one that I think I might get a lot of 1377 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 4: tweets being like, what on earth are you talking about? 1378 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 3: But I'm doing it anyways. Bo Nicks. Oh, okay, I 1379 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 3: think if both. 1380 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 4: I think if bo Nicks continues the trajectory he was 1381 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 4: on and plays well on that team with that defense, 1382 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 4: I still stand by and you know, I love Jim Harbon. 1383 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 4: I would love the Chargers win the AFCUS, but I 1384 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 4: still stand by that. I think the Broncos would could 1385 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 4: win the AFC Wes and I think bo Nicks, if 1386 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 4: he just continues on this trajectory, I think it changes 1387 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 4: things and if somebody other than the Chiefs wins the 1388 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 4: AFC wes that changes the league. 1389 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 2: It does, no, it does, because yeah, that's they have 1390 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: been even though they didn't win the Super Bowl last year. 1391 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they were going for a three peak guys, 1392 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 2: like I mean, what are we talking so easy? 1393 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: Like the talk about like is the dynasty over? 1394 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 2: Like stop stop, like if as long as you've still 1395 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 2: made it to a super Bowl like I I you know, 1396 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 2: and like I said, we've seen this from the from 1397 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They they've bounced back quite amply. But if 1398 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 2: somebody else can win it, then it's like, oh, oh 1399 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 2: m hmm, maybe the dynasty is coming to a close. 1400 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 2: That would be very interesting to me. 1401 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: And I do. 1402 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 2: I love the Broncos. It seems like Sean Payne's been 1403 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 2: on one this preseason. 1404 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm very curious from people I've talked. 1405 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 2: To you in that building, he's he's kind of on 1406 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 2: a war path, which I think comes with like there's 1407 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 2: expectations now, you know for the Denver Broncos, Like last 1408 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: year they kind of came out of nowhere and they 1409 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 2: were like, oh, nobody expected them to be this good 1410 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: and this defense to be that good and then bonux 1411 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: to be that good that quickly. But now it's like, Okay, 1412 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 2: well you were good last year, so now you need 1413 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 2: to be good and even better. 1414 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 1415 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: So, like I get it. 1416 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 2: I would not want to be in the firing range 1417 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 2: of of Sean Payton on a war path. 1418 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, same, so much. 1419 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got another fun one, and it is a 1420 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 2: player one. I'm not we weren't just gonna do players, 1421 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: but this is this, this has implications beyond just winning 1422 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: and losing games. Actually, Travis Hunter is my X factor 1423 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 2: because not only if they can figure out how to 1424 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: truly like weaponize his skill set, will the Jacksonville Jaguars 1425 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 2: maybe win to game some games and be in contention 1426 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 2: for the AFC South because it's totally up for grabs 1427 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 2: and all that fun stuff, But like that will open 1428 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 2: the door for two way players in this day and age. 1429 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying everybody can do it, because they can't. 1430 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter truly is like a freak of 1431 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: nature in the sense that, like his stamina is just 1432 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 2: absolutely outrageous and that isn't something that everybody can handle 1433 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 2: or that like most people can handle. Like it's gonna 1434 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 2: be a very select few. But I think that this 1435 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 2: has been like a two way player. And I fell 1436 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 2: in this camp too when they when they drafted him, 1437 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 2: and we were talking about Travis Hunter in the pre 1438 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 2: draft process where I was like, okay, but like, is he. 1439 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Really going to be a two way player? Because like, 1440 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: how do you do that in this league? 1441 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 2: Like with how complex defenses it are and offenses and 1442 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,439 Speaker 2: like how things are Just how in the world would 1443 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 2: you do that? Even from a mental standpoint, how would 1444 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 2: you do that? But I don't know if you can. 1445 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 2: If this goes well with Travis Hunter and he does 1446 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 2: play significant snaps both offensively and defensively, I just think 1447 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 2: that that opens the door for the possibility for more 1448 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 2: of these guys, you know, and you see him come 1449 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 2: up out of college and guys doing that in college, 1450 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: and it's like, Okay, well maybe they can do it 1451 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 2: at the NFL level. 1452 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 11: Oh. 1453 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 1454 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 4: I think that's a very very good one and it 1455 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense, And you're right that one 1456 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 4: has implications beyond do the Jacksonville Jaguars Jaguars win football games? 1457 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 3: That has league altering implications. I like it. I like 1458 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 3: it a lot. I'm going to do one more. It's 1459 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 3: a player. 1460 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 4: It's actually two players, but they're in the same division, 1461 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 4: so I rolled them into one. But Matthew Stafford and 1462 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey. Their health I think has major implications on 1463 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 4: the NFC West, Like if they're not healthy to Seattle 1464 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 4: win the division, who's to say and the. 1465 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: NFC if you talking about wildcards teams, you know. 1466 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 4: So I'm saying both of them just because they think, yes, 1467 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 4: it was the whole NFC and that does kind of 1468 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 4: it has the full trickle down effect. So I'm saying 1469 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 4: both of them. It's true. 1470 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 3: It's like their health to people's health, could effect. 1471 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Could effect Yeah, absolutely, yeah they could. You're right. I 1472 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: just want to get to an honorable mention really fast. 1473 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift love it. I know, I know nobody wants 1474 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: to hear that, but I did. 1475 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to hear that. 1476 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,959 Speaker 1: But like the way that. 1477 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 2: She's opened up football for a whole other subsect of 1478 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 2: people that maybe weren't necessarily involved or interested in the game. 1479 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: And now you know, they have them breaking down stuff 1480 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 2: and talking about the Chief's injury woes and all this. 1481 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, good for you man, and Taylor swift saying, like, 1482 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 2: give her eighteen months so she could be an analyst. 1483 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I believe it. Could you imagine if she ends up 1484 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: actually doing a halftime. 1485 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 3: Show stop, Oh my gosh, it would be amazing. 1486 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 2: It would it would like it altered. It alters the 1487 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 2: audience of the NFL, which is the spirit of this segment. 1488 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: So I think that would be great. 1489 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 4: If she does the halftime show, then you better get 1490 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 4: your super tickets now because the Swifties are taken over. 1491 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's fair. Oh god, all right, well, uh, 1492 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not in the business of gate keeping 1493 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 2: the NFL. So you know what, the more the merrier, 1494 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 2: there you go, and the more the merrier, as we 1495 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 2: bring in Martin Weiss with an update. 1496 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 7: You know, did you all happen to see uh first 1497 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 7: name pronunciation may get this wrong, my bad tire Tarts Instagram? 1498 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Oh not his Instagram, but like, oh my god, yesterday. 1499 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 7: Yes, I mean obviously you know the slap heard around 1500 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 7: the world. 1501 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Open hand Swifties go after him. 1502 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 8: Oh man, it's nasty. 1503 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 3: That you don't do. Not upset the Swifties. I mean, 1504 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 3: people really should say this. 1505 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Do I live my life in fear? Of them. That's 1506 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: like she's part of the NFL landscape. I'm like, I'm 1507 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: not gonna say it's a bad. 1508 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 7: I can't read any of these out loud. That's not 1509 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 7: for like their song lyrics. But I just I don't 1510 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 7: know this should be true. But I'm saying on the 1511 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 7: radio with confidence. 1512 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 8: So it's a. 1513 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 7: Fact tire targ got more engagement on his Instagram and 1514 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 7: Twitter yesterday than he ever has an I'm. 1515 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 3: Willing to accept that is true. 1516 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 8: After the slap erd around the world and then. 1517 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 7: I knocked the ball down on the goal line, so 1518 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 7: it's a good thing to get kicked out of the game. 1519 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 3: They didn't spit on him. 1520 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 7: There's not much going on in college football right now. 1521 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 7: It's a lot of blowouts. A total blowout Old Mintstake, Kentucky. 1522 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 7: You know Old mittaking a seventeen to thirteen lead going 1523 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 7: into the half. They were trailing, seving nothing. It's actually 1524 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 7: thirteen nothing. I believe in this game at a point. 1525 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 7: But now seventeen to thirteen Old Misster twenty threeen in 1526 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 7: the nation. 1527 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 8: Florida has a six to three league. 1528 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: Say that's not a blowout. 1529 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 7: Six three definitely not a blowout, and the state of 1530 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 7: Florida had a really good week last week. I know 1531 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 7: South Florida, I mean, University of Florida doesn't want to 1532 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 7: be a sacrificial lamb here, but South Florida that's the 1533 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 7: game we all have our eyes on after watching Florida 1534 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 7: State in Alabama's like, is Alabama really not. 1535 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,919 Speaker 8: Going to score here? Yeah, that's pretty much how it went. 1536 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 7: Everybody else who's playing is up big, except for Clemson, 1537 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 7: who's trailing Troy right now with two thirty six left 1538 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 7: in the first quarter. 1539 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 8: That game was in a rain delay. Georgia is still 1540 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 8: in a rain delay. 1541 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 7: Ohio State playing Grambling forty two point lead there. Oregon 1542 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 7: up by thirty eight over Oklahoma State going into the half. 1543 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 8: See what else we got here? 1544 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 7: Penn State shut out Florida International, Texas arch Manning had 1545 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 7: four touchdowns in an interception and thirty eight to seven 1546 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 7: win over San Jose State. Florida State won by seventy 1547 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,959 Speaker 7: four today and Iowa State seven. 1548 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 3: Did you say seventy four? 1549 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1550 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1551 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 2: They scored like forty nine points in the first half 1552 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 2: or something like that. 1553 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 7: Quick math, Yes, that'd be forty nine points in the 1554 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 7: in the first half there formerly Texas A and M 1555 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 7: Commerce now East Texas A and M. 1556 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 8: Thanks for coming out. 1557 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks for the money. Talk to you later. 1558 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 7: Syhawk Trophy goes to Iowa State sixteenth to thirteen. And 1559 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 7: I was on Big New Kickoff earlier today and in 1560 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 7: two Overtimesaylor, the Baylor Bears beat seventeenth r SMU forty. 1561 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 8: Eight to forty five. Ladies. 1562 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thank you Martin, thank you very much. 1563 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. All right. 1564 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm very excited for this next guest that we have 1565 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: on the line because he is one of those well 1566 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 2: sourced men in the league. If you do not subscribe 1567 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 2: to his go long substack, you might as well do 1568 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 2: it now. 1569 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 1: It's Tyler Dune. 1570 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Tyler, ty so excited to talk to you because you 1571 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 2: just wrote something, multiple parts of something about the Chicago 1572 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 2: Bears and Caleb Williams that I think people find very interesting. 1573 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: How are you. 1574 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 11: I'm doing good. 1575 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 9: I'm doing good. Great to connect with you here again. Carmen, 1576 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 9: it's been a bit. I think you were on the 1577 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 9: Golong Pod when we launched that thing back at twenty 1578 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 9: twenty your buck stage. 1579 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god, was it that long ago? 1580 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1581 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm so thank you for returning the favor, man, 1582 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 2: because I'm so excited to talk to you. 1583 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 11: Hey, thank thanks for having me. I know, I told 1584 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 11: you I was going to have all these It's accounted for. 1585 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 11: But the two month old is on my lab feeding. 1586 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 11: I like you, he's doing good. We're gonna make it happen. 1587 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 11: He's just subjected to some Bears and NFL talk, you know, 1588 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 11: early in his life. I hope he's not too you know, 1589 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 11: trauma tized. 1590 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, God's starting the trauma early. 1591 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 2: My goodness. Okay, well let's talk about it because you 1592 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 2: came out with a Now it's a three part article, 1593 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 2: the House of Dysfunction, and the first part is the 1594 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Curious Case of Caleb Williams. And so I'll be honest, ide, 1595 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 2: there is so much in here. And as someone who 1596 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 2: covers the Bears very closely, dysfunction was like the buzzword. 1597 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 2: It was the name of the game when it came 1598 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears, across so many different levels and 1599 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 2: now seeing it kind of put in this. So how 1600 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,839 Speaker 2: did this come about for you? Why did you start, 1601 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, kind of digging into this and were there 1602 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 2: things in there that you found that surprised even you 1603 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,560 Speaker 2: from the outside looking in at how dysfunctional this organationwise, 1604 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, in full transparency. 1605 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 11: Way back in February March, I was looking at this 1606 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 11: union through a lens of optimism, right, like, yeah, I've 1607 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 11: been around those Detroit Lions a bunch to see what 1608 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 11: Ben Johnson has done, you know, through the eyes of 1609 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 11: those quarterbacks. I think I've done stories on that in 1610 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 11: the past. And this is somebody who like literally will 1611 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 11: lock his door, treat his office like a lab and 1612 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 11: get the answer to the test. I mean, he's an 1613 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 11: insane worker. So I'm thinking, okay, that with this insanely 1614 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 11: talented pastor that we saw at USC, and I just 1615 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 11: kind of assumed, like most people, that he had a 1616 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 11: bunch of Dunce's coaching him and they did him wrong, 1617 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 11: and okay, let's let's learn about it. And I started 1618 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 11: just cold calling people on that staff, around that staff, players, 1619 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 11: and the and the more you learn, the more I did. Anyways, 1620 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 11: uh learned a completely different reality than what was expected. 1621 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 11: And look, I mean the coaches, and they say this themselves, 1622 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 11: they're not blameless. And if you are coach in the NFL, 1623 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 11: you should know that you take bullets for players. There's 1624 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 11: a lot on you. But as detailed in our series, 1625 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 11: I mean they went above and beyond to Taylor their 1626 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:22,040 Speaker 11: offense to this quarterback early and saw many, many, many 1627 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 11: red flags early that just never really went away. It 1628 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 11: never got better. And I think that what is most 1629 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 11: troubling amongst I mean there's a lot that's troubling, but 1630 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 11: you've got a really talented quarterback and Caleb Williams who 1631 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,680 Speaker 11: just did not want to put in the work. I 1632 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 11: mean that was told to me again and again and 1633 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 11: again from coaches, from from some players. He wasn't watching 1634 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 11: the film at home, wasn't going to some optional pass 1635 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 11: protection meetings, wasn't working with receivers after practice. Just didn't 1636 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 11: seem to understand that what worked in college, you know, 1637 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 11: you might be able to break free from that pass rusher. 1638 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 11: For Santos, the State was a school that one of 1639 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 11: his coaches mentioned, like it just that that isn't what 1640 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 11: you see in the NFL. And I don't know if 1641 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 11: it will click on it. If it does, look if 1642 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 11: he maybe he has genuinely changed. Everything they're saying right 1643 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 11: now is all positive. I think thirty two teams. Thirty 1644 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 11: two of thirty two teams would sign up for very 1645 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 11: talented quarterback, genius head coach. So it's not like this 1646 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 11: thing is doomed, but it's gonna be mkailed. 1647 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 1: Looking in the mirror himself, do you feel like for Caleb? 1648 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 4: I mean, if if Ben Johnson can't do it, can 1649 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 4: no one do it for Caleb? I mean, because you 1650 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 4: do have to want to do the work. You know, 1651 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 4: it can't even just it can't just be your coaches 1652 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 4: pushing you or outside forces. 1653 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 3: You have to want to do it. You have to 1654 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:42,640 Speaker 3: love it. 1655 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 4: And I think you know, people talk a lot about 1656 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 4: the draft. We want guys that love football, and people 1657 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 4: might laugh at that, but loving football means watching the 1658 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,640 Speaker 4: film at home, doing extra you know, extra with your 1659 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 4: receivers after practice, et cetera. 1660 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 3: So, but do you feel like this Ben Johnson era 1661 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 3: can change that in him? 1662 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 11: That that's the thirteen million dollars per year question, right, 1663 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 11: and that's what they're paying him. Yeah, And I think 1664 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 11: you know, you know, this was told to me by 1665 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,640 Speaker 11: another GM for this series, and I brought up, you know, 1666 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 11: this this pairing and kind of posed like, where's this 1667 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 11: thing going and he basically said, look, remember that he 1668 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 11: didn't draft Kayleb Williams, Like right now, yes, Caleb Williams 1669 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 11: is his guy, but look at the Chicago Bears themselves right, 1670 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 11: like Mitch trubiscuous, Matt Naggy's guy till he was, and 1671 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 11: Justin Field was Ryan Polds, Matt ebers Whu's guy until 1672 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,720 Speaker 11: he wasn't like big things change, and he's the one 1673 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 11: with a lot with deep power. I think he even 1674 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 11: has more personnel, say than they may be letting on 1675 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 11: it gets up to Ben Johnson. I mean, I don't 1676 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 11: think he'll be afraid to make a change if he 1677 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 11: has to make a change. Now, we don't have to 1678 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 11: go bench Caleb Williams right now before they even played 1679 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 11: a snap of regular season football. I'm not doing that. 1680 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 9: Like he he is talented, but. 1681 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,719 Speaker 11: More there's more to the position at the professional level 1682 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 11: to being talented. That's what all of these coaches and 1683 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 11: even scouts who study Caleb Williams say repeatedly, Like if 1684 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 11: he didn't he didn't want to be corrected by coaches, 1685 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 11: he would literally just walk away from them, right, And 1686 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 11: we kind of paint that scene in the Seattle game 1687 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 11: to lead the whole thing. Where Thomas Brown is telling 1688 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,679 Speaker 11: him something he doesn't want to hear it, he walks away, 1689 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,679 Speaker 11: and I think that he kind of walked all over 1690 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 11: Shane Waldron in that regard, and Shane didn't really want 1691 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 11: to be confrontational, didn't push back where Thomas Brown would. 1692 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, Garbon, this is an old school 1693 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 11: football coach. He's not gonna put up with it. Ben 1694 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 11: Jampson is not gonna put up with it. And Ben 1695 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 11: Jason has the benefit of a full spring, a full summer. 1696 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 11: You're seeing it way more than me up close in 1697 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 11: training hip. I'm sure he was on him day in 1698 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 11: and day out. 1699 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: He was, and someone saw it. He was there, you 1700 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: go real quick. 1701 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 2: I just do you think it was because Caleb just 1702 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 2: didn't have a respect for that coaching staff. 1703 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 11: Hmm, that's an interesting question, perhaps, right, But but let's 1704 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 11: remember how it all began. I mean, the offensive coordinators 1705 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 11: sweepstake was was real. I mean, Ryan Poles took a 1706 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 11: lot of pride in that interview process. They went through 1707 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 11: a lot of different candidates, and that all these candidates 1708 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 11: knew who the quarterback was going to be. I mean, 1709 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 11: Ryan Foles's mind was made up the four Caleb Williams 1710 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,639 Speaker 11: was even draft eligible. I mean, this is his mahomes 1711 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 11: that this is who he is wanted all along, and 1712 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 11: that's a whole other story. I think it's also a 1713 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 11: kind of revisionist history on on Shane Watson. But Shane 1714 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 11: Waldron isn't is not perfect. He should have stood up 1715 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 11: to Caleb Williams. People on his staff even told me 1716 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 11: that they thought he kind of twisted and contorted the 1717 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 11: offense too much, too soon, when maybe he should have 1718 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 11: stood his ground. But this is somebody from the Sean 1719 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 11: McVay tree. I mean, this is somebody who did the 1720 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,680 Speaker 11: hell of a lot of good things in la in 1721 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 11: Seattle with Russell Wilson and Geno Smith. It's not like 1722 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,680 Speaker 11: this is some archaic coach from nineteen seventy two. He 1723 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 11: can coach and I think that, yeah, that's what really 1724 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 11: pissed off a lot of these coaches went with those 1725 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 11: reports that came out that they weren't helping Caleb. I 1726 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 11: mean it's not just reports. I mean Caleb is saying 1727 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 11: to himself and what I'm sure is an exceptional book 1728 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 11: from Seth Wickersham's I'd imagine that's what kind of loosened 1729 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 11: the gums for this three part series we have where 1730 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 11: they want to let their experience be known and look, 1731 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 11: take it for what it's worth. 1732 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:32,560 Speaker 2: I get it. 1733 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 11: Anonymous sources can make people uncomfortable, but these people are 1734 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 11: all over the NFL, they have other jobs. I gave 1735 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 11: them that nobility to share their experiences of fear of retribution, 1736 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 11: and I think their experiences do matter. There is an 1737 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 11: NFL portrayed at press conferences, on Twitter, all of that, 1738 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 11: and then there's the real thing behind the scenes, and 1739 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 11: it's not always pretty. 1740 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 1: No, it certainly isn't. 1741 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would be shocked by 1742 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 2: what actually goes on in most of these teams. 1743 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: I could talk to you forever. I'm so sorry we 1744 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 1: have to go, but thank you so much for coming on. 1745 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 2: If you guys have not seen it yet, go to 1746 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,799 Speaker 2: Tyler's substack, go along and check out House of Dysfunction. 1747 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 1: There are three parts. 1748 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 11: Tie Yes, part three will be going live in the AM, 1749 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,640 Speaker 11: but the first two are up and the second one 1750 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 11: we kind of take you inside those draft meetings ahead 1751 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 11: of the pick and you know you've got the GM 1752 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 11: and personal people laughing literally laughing Drake May. Oh my god, 1753 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 11: wasn't a decision when it came to the first overall, 1754 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 11: so what. 1755 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 1: It is well worth your time, folks. Thank you so much. Tie. 1756 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: We will be back with some lol moments of the 1757 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 1: week right after this. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday. 1758 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: I sure do. 1759 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 2: Friends of low Places. I got to meet Garth Brooks once. 1760 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 2: It was really cool him and as that cool he came. 1761 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 2: I was interning for the Chicago White Sox actually, and 1762 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 2: he was in town doing a show and he wanted 1763 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,200 Speaker 2: to see the ballpark and so I was one of 1764 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 2: the people that got to take him around. 1765 01:16:58,640 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome, it was. 1766 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 1: He was so gracious, him and his wife. 1767 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 3: Anyway, I love that. I'm still think about it because 1768 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 3: I love. 1769 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 2: Garth Brooks like a heartwarming story. Also, my dad's band 1770 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 2: used to do this song. Oh he's like he's on 1771 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 2: like a dad band. He plays the drums with all 1772 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,759 Speaker 2: of his friends and I'm like, they just do covers 1773 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,720 Speaker 2: of songs. It's really cute. 1774 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 3: Oh I love that. 1775 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: I know. 1776 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of so I like that. Ah God, I 1777 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 2: wish we had more time to talk to Tay. First 1778 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 2: of all, because like you really should go. It's like 1779 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 2: it's seven dollars a month to go subscribe to his substack. 1780 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 2: Tyler does he work for Bleacher Report. 1781 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 1: He does his own thing. 1782 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 9: Now. 1783 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 2: He's been doing this go along substack for years at 1784 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 2: this point, and he gets some A lot of it 1785 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,880 Speaker 2: is anonymous sourcing, so like, if you have an issue 1786 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 2: with that, that's sorry. 1787 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,680 Speaker 1: But like he does get a lot, he does his 1788 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: due diligence. Man. 1789 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean thirty two sources for this sources for this 1790 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 2: story that he talked to across the league, which is 1791 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 2: just incredible. So go check it out seriously. All Right, 1792 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 2: our last segment of the afternoon for you and I, 1793 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,639 Speaker 2: Tracy the LOL moment of the week. 1794 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,759 Speaker 1: I love it and story. 1795 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 2: It's a story that's just you know, that made you laugh, 1796 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I need a laugh, so I 1797 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,440 Speaker 2: think everybody. 1798 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: Else needs to laugh. So why don't you? Why don't 1799 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: you start us off? All right? 1800 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna talk about Jim Harbaugh because he's he 1801 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 4: makes people l all the time. 1802 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,599 Speaker 3: I have two things. 1803 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 4: One, McKai Beckton, you know, was questionable with an illness 1804 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 4: and he ended up playing in the game. And Jim 1805 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 4: harvaugh a kind it to the Michael Jordan flu game, 1806 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 4: and that in itself just made me lol because it's 1807 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 4: so Jim Harbaugh. 1808 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 9: So that was that. 1809 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 4: And then in the postgame locker room, he was giving 1810 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,719 Speaker 4: out the game balls and he started, you know, justin Herbert, 1811 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,920 Speaker 4: this one that would and then he ends it with 1812 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,640 Speaker 4: you know what, everybody gets a game ball, and I 1813 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 4: was like, wow, Jim Harbaugh's become the you get a 1814 01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 4: trophy for showing up guys. 1815 01:18:59,320 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 1: I was just gonna stay. 1816 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 3: I love it, absolutely love it. 1817 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to go back to the Phillies, Karen. 1818 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 2: That was my fellol moment because I mean, honestly, what 1819 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 2: are we doing, like if we can't laugh though at 1820 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 2: just the absolute audacity of adults. Who are these adults 1821 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 2: that are trying to take ball away from children? I 1822 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 2: mean it's funny from an outsider perspective, but that poor kid, 1823 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 2: Like you're you're running baseball for that poor child who 1824 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 2: just wanted a ball and whose dad went and got 1825 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 2: him one. And I mean the foot props of the 1826 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 2: Phillies for you know, making that happen and all that 1827 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,439 Speaker 2: kind of stuff and still getting him a ball and whatever. 1828 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 2: But like I just I if I didn't laugh, I 1829 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,639 Speaker 2: think I'd cry at the fact that all these people. 1830 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Do these things ridiculous. 1831 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 2: It was so good being back because football is back. 1832 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Tracy Sandler, Christophett, bo Benson, 1833 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 2: Martin Wise. 1834 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,240 Speaker 1: We will talk to you next week.