1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Ruthie's Table four, presented by Sky. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: There are all sorts of very good reasons to listen 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: to Ruthie's Table four, but I suspect that for many 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: of us, it is simply the love of Ruthie Rogers. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: I'm Ashley Baker, a journalist as well as one of 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Ruthie's many friends, and I am here to turn the table, 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: so to speak, on our host. Her new book is 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: out next week and it's called Table four at the 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: River Cafe, Conversations about Food and Life. It is full 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: of so much wisdom about love, food, the pursuit of happiness. 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: But today we're about to figure out what is in 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: that special sauce that makes Ruthie's world so completely irresistible, 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: not to mention delicious. We will not be sitting at 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Table four today. We are going to be sitting at 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: the one where Ruthie and her friends and families so 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: often gather's here at Ruthie's beautiful home in London. Ruthie, 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: one of the things that I love so much about 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: this book is that it feels really different for you, 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: like you have a restless creative energy. You've done so 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: many incredible things over the course of your career and 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: now you're giving us something to curl up with in 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: bed at night. Were you nervous about doing a book 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: like this? I mean, or did it seem very intuitive 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: for you? 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: It was challenging. It was challenging to do a book 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: without a recipe. It was just a very different book. 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: But I loved every minute. I really loved doing this book. 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: Talking about recipes, I never thought of them as poetry. 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: And then I heard Michael Kane read his on the 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: River Cafes podcast. I mean, what inspired this idea to 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: bring recipes and turn them into this means of communication. 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: Well, the real story is that about twenty years ago, 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Richard and I thought, we have this big space the house, 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: we have friends, and what if we did for a 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: call of charitable event. We would ask actors or writers 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: and musicians to do whatever they wanted to do in 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: this space and we would have we could seize about 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: one hundred people and they would come in and then 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: we would ask the person who was performing they could 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: give the money the proceeds to their half to their 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: charity and have to one that Richard and I believed in. 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: And one night Ian McKellen did his and He had 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: a piano and he sang songs, and he read Shakespeare 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and he did a sonnet, and he told anecdotes. And 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: at the very very end, that's something I didn't know 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: he was going to do. He read a recipe from 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: one of our books for Rebelita, a tuskin soup, a 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: bread soup, and it was just he stood on these 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: stairs and he read the recipe. And it was so 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: spellbinding to hear a recipe you know, peel take fore 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: cloves of garlic and gently smash them and you know, 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: fry the oil. It was beautiful to listen to. And 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,559 Speaker 1: so I think what we thought of doing these podcasts 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: that people might want to just tune in and hear 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Ray Fines or Jake Jillanol or Victoria Beckham David Beckham 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: to read a recipe. And then our mutual friend Graydon 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: Carter said, I think we need something a bit more, 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: And why don't you segue from the recipe into his story. 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: So tell me about the first few episodes and how 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: you tempted these incredible people to come talk about food with. 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: You and why why? Yeah, it was the pandemic. There 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: were people were alone in their houses, people were you know, 63 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: not flying off to do something in another country. And 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I think there were people who cared about the River Cafe. 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: They may have also cared about me because it was 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: a time that was quite difficult because my husband had 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: had an accident. I always like to think that if 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: I'd asked David Beckham to talk about football, or Michael 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Kaye about making movies, or Wes Anderson about directing a movie, 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: they might have said, I've done that so many times. 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: But if I asked them to say, what we're going 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: to do is talk about food. Did your mother cook, 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: did your father cook? Did you cook as a child. 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: There's so many questions concerning about food in people's lives. 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: And so we did call Michael and he said yes, 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: And then I've reached out to Wes that they were 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: the three, and he said yes. And then we asked, 78 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I think the third one was I think it was 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: Jake Chillanol. Actually three men that I knew, and each 80 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: of them really just did read a recipe. We did 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: a meeting with the iHeart people in New York and 82 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: they listened to Wes Reader's recipe for a roast pigeon, 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: and they listened to Jake read a recipe for tomato sauce, 84 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: and they listened to Michael Caine. I think it's a 85 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: recipe with potatoes and panchetta, I think, and so I think, 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: just hearing those three voices, they said, let's do it, 87 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: And that's really how it started. 88 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to read you an introduction that I wrote 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: for you, because you always write these lovely introductions for 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: everyone else. But I hope that this gets sort of 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: the sense of why I think Ruthy's Table four resonates 92 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: with so many people. 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: This is my for Ruthie. 94 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes in life, if you're very lucky, you end up 95 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: with a friend like Ruthie Rogers, the one who makes 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: you laugh and makes you sing, who always asks about 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: your parents and loves your children almost as much as 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: you do. For many people around the world, Ruthy Rogers 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: is best known for The River Cafe and now all 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: these years into irresistible podcast Ruthie's Table four. But for 101 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: those of us lucky enough to really know her, she's 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: a shining example of how to live and how to love, 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: which is why I suspect Ruthy's Table four has become 104 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: such a sensation. We can all feel it through the 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: airways and now we are here to celebrate it because 106 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Ruthie has collected all of those best moments into this 107 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: irresistible book. 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: Congrats Ruthie. 109 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: Wow. Well, now I know how people feel when they 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: have actually read to them. I don't usually say, this 111 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: person want free oscars or found the cure to disease, 112 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: or the ball through a net in the middle of 113 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: a the World cupcame. But it's really more about what 114 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: they mean to me and why they're here and what 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: I think we can do together. I do have a 116 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: connection with most of the people who have been on 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: the podcast, but there are some people I met literally 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: for the first time as they walked into do the podcast, 119 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: and so I think it is establishing a trust and 120 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: establishing a connection and knowing that they're safe. And we're saying, 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: you know which, We're going to talk about food, really, 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: but that goes into politics, it goes into relationships, it 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: goes into history, and as you say, it's through the 124 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: lens of food, we get the story. 125 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: On that note, I mean, for a podcast again that's 126 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: ostensibly about food, we get into so many other topics 127 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: and I'm going to take you through some of my 128 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: favorite parts of the book that are the most surprising 129 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: things I think that we have discovered is that, Okay, yeah, 130 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to start with Elton John because he rarely 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: does interviews. I mean, this is an incredibly intimate moment 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: that you have with him. And you have Elton and 133 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: his husband, David Furnish, who are friends. 134 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Of yours, right, yes, they are. 135 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: How did you guys meet? 136 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: We met actually when John Kerry was going to be 137 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: the Democratic candidate, and we met. I was shopping they 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: were there, and I guess we recognize each other, talked 139 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: and we started talking as everybody was right then and there, 140 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: thinking this is a crucial, crucial election. And I told 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: them that I was going to do a benefit for 142 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: John Kerry in our house and maybe Elton would like 143 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: to come and play. And they both left at the idea, 144 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: and that began the conversation of how we could create 145 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: something together. David is Canadian, they're both incredibly socially active 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: in terms of what they've done for AIDS, and so 147 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: it was it was out of that through a really 148 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: close friendship, I ad them. 149 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't realize this really shocked me. Elton 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: says about the time that they met. He says, I 151 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: was in AA, so I hadn't really met anybody except 152 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: AA people for three years. I mean, did you know 153 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: his struggles with alcoholism have been publicized, But I mean 154 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: this was really surprising to me. 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I didn't know that at all. And I 156 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: think they were sitting there in his house. We went there. 157 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: I think we went for a walk first, we were 158 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: in the garden. I think I do think people are, 159 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: even people have given a lot of interviews, are vulnerable. 160 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: You know. I opened up about my struggles, they opened 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: it up about theirs, and I think it is a 162 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: very meaningful interview. At the end of it, woman who 163 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: was there listening actually said, you know, I've sat through 164 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: so many of these interviews with over the last twenty 165 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: years with Elton, but I hadn't heard these stories because 166 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: what a journalist asked, did you show peas with your grandmother? 167 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Maybe not. 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean it was so moving how he talked about 169 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: growing up in a council flat after mouth of World 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: War Two, And a recurring theme in many of your 171 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: conversations is this idea of cooking as being a bright 172 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: spot in very dark times. Did you notice that when you. 173 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Guys, did you know? I think with you know, older 174 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: people like Michael Caine who actually went through the war 175 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: and rationing, and when you ask the question what did 176 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: your kitchen look like? And then describing her kitchen. Most 177 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: of the people in this book, probably most of the 178 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: people in life, did not grow up entitled. They did 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: not grow up with a sense of the advantages that 180 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: so many us have, and they see food almost as 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: a measure of their success that they became a point 182 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: whether they were Paul McCartney or Elton or Tracy Emmen, 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: all really found that at a certain point they could 184 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: eat well because they had achieved something in life that 185 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: allowed it. 186 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: I love how Victoria Beckham spoke about how her mother 187 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: used the oven as a filing cabinet and she didn't 188 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: grow up with fancy food at all. And then when 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: she was in The Spice Girl, she told you that's 190 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: when she started going to restaurants and discovering this love 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: of cooking. I mean, she was a fascinating interview because 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: her thoughts on food and her diet has been so 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: discussed in the tabloids over the years. 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: What did you learn from what I thought about Victoria 195 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: is that she's rigorous. It's discipline. She really said that 196 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: she found the food that could make her perform well, 197 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: and she knew that there was a certain way of 198 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: eating that meant she could sing and dance on the stage. 199 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: And that discipline, I think, which is probably part of 200 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: her knowing how to sing and how to do the 201 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: moves and how to listen to the music and perform, 202 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: was the same as the rigor that she did does 203 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: with her diet. I've eaten with her just very recently, 204 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: and she sticks to it. It's her disciplinement. 205 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: Rose is, you know, was your co founder at the 206 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: Railver Cafe and such an important part of your life. 207 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like she's lore in the Ruthie 208 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Rogers story. Rose died in twenty ten. But for your 209 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: listeners and your friends who never had the chance to 210 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: meet her, what was she liked? 211 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: She's a force, you know, in every way. She was 212 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: someone who who you know, filled the room. She was beautiful, 213 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: she was tall, she was a character. You know, she 214 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: she whatever she was doing, if she looked at you, 215 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: you felt you were the only person in the room. 216 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: You know. She was that kind of She was a 217 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: great teacher, and you know the first time I met her, 218 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: I say that I rang the doorbell of her house 219 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: because she was a neighbor and friends. Richard had been 220 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: a friend with her for years, And I rang the 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: doorbell and she came to the door with a baby 222 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: on her hip and the martini in her in her hand, 223 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, and that was Rose and she said, come on, 224 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: and who are you. She was the most lovable and kind, 225 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: and she was fierce. You know. She didn't you know, 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: like something. You would know it whether she walked into 227 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: a restaurant and said, you don't know how to make palento? 228 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Should I come and teach you. She was amazing and 229 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: much much loved, and we think of her all the time, 230 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, we think of her when we, you know, 231 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: guill a piece of fish or make a cake. You 232 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: knows is there. 233 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: In Michael's interview, he also talked about talks about your 234 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: grandparents and your father in particular, coming back to America 235 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: was sort of a European taste in food. I wanted 236 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: to talk to you a little bit about, you know, 237 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: what that was like for you growing up and sort 238 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: of the most early taste sensations that you can remember 239 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: as a child. 240 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I think We ate very simply in my house. Both 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: my parents worked, so my mother was a librarian, my 242 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: father was a doctor. We went to school, we did 243 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: our homework, and then meals were they were good food, 244 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, they were always served on the table. It 245 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: was a lot about discussion, and I think it came 246 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: probably from generations of you know, immigrant families. My one said, 247 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: my grandparents came from Russia, the other from Hungary. And 248 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: I think the you know, the importance of community and family, 249 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: my grandfather said used to say my father when he 250 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: would bring somebody home, are they family or strangers? You know, 251 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: the idea that you were in a foreign land and 252 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: you didn't have friends, you know. So I think that 253 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: probably stayed with my parents, but the circle spread and 254 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: we didn't have strangers, but there were friends and people 255 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: who came to the house. I think our house was 256 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: the house that my friends wanted to go to, and 257 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: I think that's nice. 258 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: Kind of reminds me of the River Cafe. 259 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: Maybe, I hope so at our own house. I always 260 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: liked it when my kids brought friends home rather than 261 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: inter other friends' houses. 262 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: That's another recurring theme in the book, this idea of 263 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: interesting people getting together talking about the big ideas and 264 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: what matters in life. And Wes Anderson had a great 265 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: anecdote about that. He talked about going on the Queen 266 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: Mary Too from New York to England with Jason Schwartzman 267 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: and Roman Copela and his wife Jenny, Untilda Swinton and 268 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: West and his wife. I mean, I love this idea 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: of kind of great people getting together and doing unexpected things. 270 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: Did you notice that was a topic that sort of 271 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: came up as sort of being you know, as a 272 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: crucible for the creative act. 273 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: I think the lot of the people just saw collaboration 274 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: and food as part of their work. So especially filmmakers 275 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: who are on set all day, you know, particularly Wes, 276 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the day sitting down and then 277 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: having dinner and talking about what you did. And that 278 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: happens with people who are chefs, people who are Vvec Murphy, 279 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: who was a surgeon general, you know, talks about being 280 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: a government I'd say Mark Harney talking about at the 281 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Bank of England making sure that when people came into 282 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: his office there was something to eat or drink, you know, 283 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: that people could sit and have something to relax. Michael Bloomberg, 284 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: who always asked him if he interviewed people at restaurants, 285 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: and he said yes, because the way a person acts 286 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: in a restaurant is so telling of who they are. 287 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Are they kind to the waiter, Do they look the 288 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: waiter in the eye, do they share their food? Do 289 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: they you know, there's so many things that you can 290 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: find out meeting with someone about who they are. 291 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: These are really emotional conversations a lot of the time. 292 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: I mean, has there ever been a moment in an 293 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: interview where you've had to stop reset, you know, where 294 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: people have ended up sort of surprising themselves with what 295 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: they revealed. 296 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Very early on when we and I know she 297 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind, when Gwyneth Paltrow was on and we we 298 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I love her and we know each other, 299 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: and we started talking and I think I talked about 300 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: her first and said that when my youngest son died, 301 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: we wanted to have It was very sudden, and then 302 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: it was very close to the Christmas party at the 303 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: River Cafe, and I wanted to do something for all 304 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: the people who had really seen me through and my 305 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: family through this terrible time, and so I thought, what 306 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: can I do for the you know them? So we 307 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I asked Gwynneth if she would just come and sing 308 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: a song when they sat as a surprise, and that 309 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: she did. Left a concert gig I think at Wembley 310 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: of Chris Martin came across London, got there and I 311 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: told them all they were going to hear a lecture 312 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: in organic farming. They were kind of prepared for that. 313 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: And then Quinneth came out in her little Christmas cap 314 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: and sang and you know, she's when we both started 315 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to cry. We tell that story, and then as we 316 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: were sort of teary, we talked, but she talked about 317 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: her father in Florence and the death of her father. 318 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: Another one of the recurring themes that's so beautiful in 319 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: this book is this idea of a maternal relationship. And 320 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: I think that for many people you have that kind 321 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: of you know, you're a bit of a motherly figure. 322 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: Especially for Austin Butler, you're very close too. 323 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: I was so moved by his story of you know, 324 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: his mother who was a stay at home mother who 325 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: ended up passing away, and you know how Austin started 326 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: cooking as a child because his dad had to work. 327 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: He was getting paid two dollars a night. I mean, 328 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: did that surprise you. 329 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it surprised me, but it told 330 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: me something more about him. You know. Austin was someone 331 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: that he was. He Elvis hadn't come out yet. He 332 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: was here filming with Carrie Fukunega, Masters of the Air 333 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: with Callum Turner. We were all a bit orphans in 334 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: the storm at that time. They were away from their families, 335 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: they were making this film. My husband had had an accident, 336 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: so we were all other friends who came. We were 337 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: just about six of us, and so in the world 338 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: of you know, kind of uncertainty, the certainty was that 339 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: for forty eight weeks, our thirty nine weeks, somebody counted 340 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: every Sunday we met for cards and supper, you know, 341 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: and that was it. And sometimes people would come who 342 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: hadn't been before. Sometimes somebody was in town. But it 343 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: was this core group Austin, Callum, Carrie, my two friends 344 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Katie and Stefan, and that's what we did. 345 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: I want to talk briefly about Richard because in many 346 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 2: ways he's another three line of this book, certainly an 347 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: important part of the life of the show and life 348 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: of the River Cafe. Did you tell him that you 349 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: were thinking about starting a podcast. Did you discuss it 350 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: with him? I mean, what do you think he would 351 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: make of all this? 352 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: I think he would love it. Yeah, I think he 353 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: would love it. And the great thing about Richard is 354 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: that he was just like, let's do it, you know, 355 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: whether it's starting the restaurant or having a party or 356 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: he just was a very positive person. And I always 357 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: think of all the people that I would like to 358 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: I'm often ask who what guests would you like to 359 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: have most, And of course I would have had Richard 360 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: because he loved he loved food. I don't think he 361 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: ever had a meal. And his son, Zad, my step son, 362 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: who's producer of this series, had created with me of 363 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: it all those days ago. You should have a microphone here. 364 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: But I sometimes say that I don't think Richard ever 365 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: ate a meal without a glass of wine, do you. 366 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, true, okay, I think, But I think 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: that he just got such pleasure out of food. He loved, 368 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: He loved to eat, he loved people. He could not 369 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: understand the concept of wanting to be thinner. You know. 370 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: The whole thing was about the pleasure of food and 371 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: the thing he loved most was having the River Cafe 372 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: next door to his office, and so he was there 373 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: all the time. You know, there's a great story which 374 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: is that we came in there was a new waitress 375 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: and she was crying, and I said, why are you crying? 376 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: It was a restaurant. It was just like nine o'clock 377 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: in the morning. She said, well, I brought a cross 378 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: Launt in from home and I put it on the 379 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: bar and Richard Rogers came in and ate it. He said, okay. 380 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: So he loved food, he loved people. He you know, 381 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: he so he would have been fun to have him 382 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: here on these Yeah, he would have enjoyed it, especially 383 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 1: since his son and it's a family affair. 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he would have love Carrie Russell. She's one 385 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: of my favorite interviews in this entire book. Carrie loves 386 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: to eat. She's a girl after our own hearts. She 387 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: said that when she's on sets she mostly eats donuts. Yeah, legitimately, 388 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: I love that. 389 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: Don't she love that? Mel Brooks was good. Mel Brooks 390 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: could remember, age ninety nine, the name of the woman 391 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: who gave him his first spaghetti aged seven, So for 392 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: ninety two years he's remembered this woman's name that gave 393 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: him the pasta, you know, and that's a food memory. 394 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: He was great, And both he and Frank Gary had 395 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: mothers who kept a carp in the bathtub a huge 396 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: fish so that they can make a filter fish when 397 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: they wanted to. And I think that was kind of interesting. 398 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: They were probably ten years apart in age. One was 399 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: from Toronto, Canada, Frank Gary and Mel grew up in Brooklyn, 400 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: but they both kept fish in the bathtub. 401 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: Sugar is all s a main character in this spooke. 402 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like so many of the people 403 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: you spoke with had these memories of eating sweets when 404 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 2: they were younger, especially people like Stephen Fry who had 405 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: a memorable experience at boarding school. 406 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: It was really compelling listen to Stephen Fry talk about 407 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: food is comfort food as something that he craved when 408 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: he was sent to boarding school so young, where you 409 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: would have thought the food might be carefully cooked, but 410 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't, and so the refuge of the sweet shop. 411 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: I think food is comfort is something that I really 412 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm interested in and go for it. 413 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: Well, your brother Michael is partial to Blintzes, right with 414 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: your aunt Florence, who made a good glens. 415 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah would Yeah, No, I wouldn't go for the blintss. 416 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: I think it really depends what I'm feeling, what kind 417 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: of comfort, But I think it would be probably a 418 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: postive with tomato sauce. Yeah, I just feel good when 419 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: I eat. 420 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: That, you know. 421 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: I think one of the powers of this book is 422 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: the way that it gives you insight into people that 423 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: thought you knew, right, like people like Nancy Pelosi, Sarah 424 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: Jessica Parker, Tracy Emmon, Stephen Fry, Jeff Goldbloom, Al Gore. 425 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: You know, we've read hundreds of interviews with these people 426 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: over the years, and yet I think your book gives 427 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: us new insight into what we thought we knew, and 428 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: that's what makes it so special. So on that note, 429 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: we are going to try to give people more insight 430 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: into a quick. 431 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: Lightning round of questions. Okay, the first, what is your 432 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: karaoke song? 433 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: All of me? 434 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: How do you like your eggs scrambled? Richard's favorite thing 435 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: that you ever cooked for him. 436 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: A fish with a sauce that is made of the 437 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: juices of the fish, and he put. 438 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: It into the favorite city, Mexico City. 439 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: I lived there for six months and as blown away 440 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: by the culture and the kindness and the beauty of 441 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: that city, of the people who live in it. 442 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: Does anyone call you Ruth? And if so, who, No. 443 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe they're really annoyed me. 444 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: Where is your happy place? 445 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: Right here with you? Right now? 446 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 2: My eleven year old daughter is relishing this book. Oh, 447 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: my seventy nine year old mother is relishing this book. 448 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: I think this is a book really for everyone. And 449 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: that's what I think is so special about it. I mean, 450 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: who are you going to give this to for their birthdays, 451 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: for the holidays? Who on your list is getting this? 452 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Who is this food? 453 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 3: Who needs this book? 454 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Who needs this book? I'd love to have it in library, 455 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you know. That would be the nicest thing, as if 456 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: it could be in school libraries and so people could 457 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: go children and adults could just pick it up and 458 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: read it and be inspired to you know, think that 459 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: food could make them feel better, that they can share it, 460 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: that they can create it and listen to the stories 461 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: of people they might have thought as a great actor 462 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: or a great writer. But oh, you know this is 463 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: that what food means to them. It's another dimension one 464 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: of the joys for me, and it was very early 465 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: on was to hear Al Gore, who was going to 466 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: be president. You know, he was an amazing vice president. 467 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: He gave us the movie on climate an Inconvenient Truth, 468 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: and I just for the first time when he sent 469 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: in his recipe, because I think we did it over 470 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: zoom or he read his. When he read his recipe, 471 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: was there is someone who's been the president of the 472 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: United States telling you to take a ripe tomato and 473 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: put it in boiling water and then peel it very 474 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: gently and then squeeze the juice out of it and 475 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: put it in a frying pan in olive oil with garlic. 476 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: And I thought, this is like incredible. He's telling us 477 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: how to cook, you know, a tomato. And this is 478 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: Al Gore. 479 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: Either daught her he's writing the first chapter of his 480 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: romanticy novel. 481 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Well that was that was very fines who basically made 482 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: love to the chocolate nemesis. But that's another story. 483 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, on that note, I think it's lunchtime for us, 484 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 3: all right. 485 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: Ruthie's Stable for to support Leukemia UK. Their Cartwheel for 486 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: a Cure campaign raises funds for vital research and more 487 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: effective and Kinder Treatments for a cute Malloyd leukemia. 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