1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkschen. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshon and Dad, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: you are in Los Angeles, my friend recording this on 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the day of Game three, So upon release, we won't 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: have all of the action from Game three, but we 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: got a lot of great baseball to talk about with you. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: The games in Toronto were very interesting. And speaking of Toronto, Jeff, 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: I saw Harold Reynolds in Toronto. Harold, of course, was 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: our guest last week, and his Bo Jackson story just 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: was so good that I must have gotten one hundred 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: comments from people who saw it. So I saw Harold, 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: and Harold told me that Bo called him and said, 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: stop using my name. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: My phone is blown up. 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Stop it. 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: No so that so Bo Jackson wasn't really a but 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: he called Harold Rednolds to tell him to stop telling 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: stories about me by phone as blowing up. This is 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: Bo Jackson, who hasn't played in the big leagues in. 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: Thirty one years, and his name is still out there. 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Jeff, the response to him, he is such a lightning rod. 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Like everybody has a story. Everybody loves Bo Jackson. We 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: just threw it out there one story and it got 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: an amazing coverage. 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Agreed, Dad, Let me tell you on your Twitter account 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: at Kirchin Underscore ESPN and it did half a million views. 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: On Instagram, it did one point two million views of 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: that clip. Now, Dad, I had posted the blooper of 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: what had happened with Harold Reynolds before that. That only 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: did a measly one hundred and thirty four thousand views 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: on Instagram. But this one, Dad, still swarming the internet 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: with people. If you don't follow us at Great Game 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: or what Instagram, Facebook, TikTok all of the stuff and 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: then follow my dad on Twitter, you're missing out. 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: On some really great video. 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: Because obviously Harold Reynolds the interview was amazing, but seeing 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: him tell the stories it's even better. 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 4: It was great. So that was the good. 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: Now wait, here's the real question, though, Dad. I don't 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: want to put pressure on you, but I have more 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: bo Jackson stories from Harold that I was thinking about 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: putting on social media. 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: Now I'm a little bit worried to. 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: Do it because Bo Jackson is someone I don't want 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: to be messing with. 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: If he finds out it's me. 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: This is not our fault Jeff. Okay, Harold told funny stories. 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: That's all there is to it, and that's what we're 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: gonna stay with, all right, all right, we'll discuss that later. 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: Whether we'd go more Bo Jackson. 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so Bo Jackson future guests, Harold, we know him 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: through Harold. 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: Harold had a great time Dad. 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: The amount of people saying Harold needs to come back 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: next season as another guest, I felt like, even though 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: we let him go, I felt like he could have 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: gone for seven hours. 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: So we need Harold back next year. 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we bring Harold and Bo Jackson on the 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: same episode. 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: Thoughts of course, Jeff, we'd love to get bo Jackson. 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's that easy. But we'll give 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: it our best, all right, speaking, I'm not easy, Jeff. Yesterday, 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: So Sunday, I'm traveling from Toronto to LA and I 65 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: get through security, which took almost an hour at the 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: Toronto airport, nobody's fall, customs, everything else, and I find 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: out my flight has been delayed for seven hours. Seven 68 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: hours it's your night, right, So now I can't make 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: my connection to LA So I have to switch flights, 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: and I finally get on a flight that leads me 71 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: with a five hour layover, and then I lost my look, 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to be I lost my first class seat. 73 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: So they said, we'll put you in the exit row 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: in the back. It'll have some leg room. When I 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: got there, the exit row was not available. So I 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: sat in a middle seat for six hours on an airplane. 77 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: And Jeff, let's see if you could remember what pop 78 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: pop does when he sits on a middle seat on 79 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: a night flight with a completely packed airplane. 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: What do I usually do? Well? 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: It could be a number of different things. Sometimes you 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: task yourself with coming up with the nineteen sixty two 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Reds starting lineup. Sometimes you try to name the gold 84 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Gloves short sets since nineteen twelve. 85 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: Remember me or you know me well? 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: Or you do team tims a lot. You do a 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of team tims to keep yourself op. 88 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: I did so this time I went way, way, way 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: over the edge. I did some anagrams because I remember 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: I did. Oh that's did the Clayton Kershaw anagram? 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: You know? Say it again? You got it? 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: Did you ever tell Clayton Kershaw anagram? 93 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: He's too good for me to give him such a 94 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: ridiculous shit. I don't want to insult him by telling 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: him that la PSI hero wants k He would look 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: at me like, what is wrong with you? Because that 97 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: would be a legitimate question. So I spent a good 98 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: three and a half hours doing anagrams. 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 4: Three and a half. 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: I was so bored because I didn't bring a book, 101 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: and I was so cramped. I couldn't even get my 102 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: computer out because there was no room, that's how crowded 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: it was on that play. So I came up with 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: two of them. They're both terrible. But since I've already 105 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: I've already told you Yoshinubu Yamamoto of the Dodgers, who 106 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: pitched the classic game too all right, Uh? An anagram 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: for his name is oh you shiny toy Mamba. 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: That's what I came up with. 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: So he's shiny, he's a toy mamba. A mamba, of course, 110 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: was Kobe Gryant's nickname. You know, an African snake is 111 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: a mamba. But he's a toy mama because he's little 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: and he's shiny because he's great. I can't believe we're 113 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: going to put this on the air, but yes, oh 114 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: you shiny toy Mamba, that's what I came up with. 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: Yamamoto's name. 116 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: That I mean, it's terrible. It isn't antigra. 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: It is. 118 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: It's bad, but it isn't like at least it fits right. 119 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: So and then I figured, well I've already done Clayton Kershaw. 120 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Let's take a shot at the Game three starter for 121 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, since that's all I just need to care 122 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: about a Dodger anagrams A Tyler Glass. 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: Now, who is this? You know? 124 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: Six foot eight inch, really smart, really handsome. He looks 125 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: like a he looks like an actor, he looks like 126 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: a rock star. He looks like somebody more than a 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: baseball pitcher. So for him, I came up with sly 128 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: Tan glos lower, sly Tan glower is Tyler Glass. Now 129 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: that's worse than Yamamoto. 130 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: Agreed, that's really bad, man. 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: All right, Well let's. 132 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: Get out of that and let's just go on to 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: some real baseball that we saw. 134 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Yea, yes, I think he would be proud of me 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: because I was trying to come up with an anagram 136 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: for somebody. And so I sat on Blake Snell for 137 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: a while and I was trying. I can't believe because 138 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: we haven't done anagrams in a while. We really haven't. 139 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: And I was thinking Blake Snell and the only things 140 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: I could get out of it, but it's not using 141 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: all of the letters are enabls is in it and sellable. 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to enables K like I just couldn't 143 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: get anything as clever as a shiny mama terrible. 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: All right, I did my. 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Very big Blake Snell also, and it comes up. He's 146 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: got the word balls in his name because he throws 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: a lot of balls for a reason. So for Blake Snell, 148 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: it's K balls lean L E E N. Now that 149 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything, but his strikeout is K is strikeout, 150 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: so strikeout balls are lean. 151 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 4: That's lean. 152 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: So I can't believe we're gonna use any of these things. 153 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna cut all of these out because they're. 154 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: All so I don't think we can. 155 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we can cut them out. Although Blake 156 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Snell's anagram you came up with sounds like something you 157 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: don't want to hear at the. 158 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: Urology exactly, I meant balls and strikes. 159 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: That's fairly obvious. 160 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: All right, we go, we gotta get onto real baseball 161 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: and get off of this ridiculous discussion. 162 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: I apologize, all right. 163 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: So Yamamoto, Jeff in Game two was absolutely tremendous and 164 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: just another reminder, Jeff, he's this little guy, he's got 165 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: elite command, and because he's so disciplined in everything he does, 166 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: he's always always, I'm told, searching for the perfect throw 167 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: is how it's put to me, like the perfect pitch. 168 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: And that's like his only fault is he's such a 169 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: perfectionist that every pitch he throws has to be perfect. Okay, 170 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: That's how he gets behind in the count one to 171 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: oh once in a while, because he's even picking on 172 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: that first pitch to make sure it's just down and 173 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: away on the corner, you know. But he was absolutely 174 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: brilliant again. And this is two complete games in a row, Jeff. 175 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the last person pitcher to throw two consecutive 176 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: complete games in the postseason was Kurt Chilling, who did 177 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: it three in a row in two thousand and one. 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: That's how good Yamamoto is. And he took a Blue 179 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Jays team that you know, it was relentless, and he 180 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 2: shut them down completely. 181 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: Okay. 182 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: The other thing I'd learned was that Addison Barger, along 183 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: with Ernie Clement, has become my new. 184 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: Favorite player of the major leagues. Oh no, I just 185 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: told you what. 186 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: A great throwing Army has. And of course he hit 187 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: the first pinch hit Grants in the history of the 188 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: World Series. 189 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: Jeff, does that surprise you at all? 190 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: Been playing the World Series since nineteen oh three and 191 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: that was the first pinch hit Grand Slam. 192 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: It surprised me. 193 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: I've learned, dad, that nothing surprises me anymore when it 194 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: comes to Major League Baseball and the history of it, 195 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, yes it does, but at this 196 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: point I can't be surprised. 197 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: Right, So he woke he slept in David's teammate, Davis 198 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: Schneider's couch the night before the game. So he woke 199 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: up before Game one sleeping on a buddy on a 200 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: teammate's couch right inside the SkyDome, I mean the Rogers Center. 201 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 4: There's a hotel there. That's where he woke up in 202 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: the morning. 203 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: And at the end of the night, he gave his 204 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: spikes to the Hall of Fame because they needed his 205 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: spikes because they're the first spikes that ever hit a 206 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: pinch hit Grand Slam in the World Series just shows 207 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: you how life changes. But Jeff, I also told you, 208 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: this is the part I want to talk about. Is 209 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: he swings as hard as any player in the major 210 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: leagues today. So I just asked him, you know, have 211 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: you always swung this hard? He goes always, he said, 212 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: I was the littlest. You know how big he is, Jeff. 213 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: He is ripped and he's only five eleven, but he 214 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: is massive. He's so strong and ridiculous. So he said, well, 215 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: I was the smallest kid in my high school. I 216 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: was four to ten as a freshman in high. 217 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: School, four ten, Jeff. 218 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: He said, as a sophomore, I was five feet tall 219 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: and ninety pounds. 220 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: I was smaller than. 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: That, but I was about that size in the tenth grade. 222 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: So he said, ye so, and he said, and my 223 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: dad always wanted me to play up. So he said, 224 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: I was thirteen years old, a really small thirteen year 225 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: old playing against eighteen year olds, thirteen against eighteen And 226 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: he said, that's how I learned. 227 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: I better swing as hard as I can. 228 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Just in case I hit it, because I was so 229 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: much smaller than everybody else. 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: So that amaze me. I was speaking to Davis Schneider. 231 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: I got such a kick out of this watching him 232 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: before BP during VP before Game two, he was doing 233 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: batting stances of Aaron Judge, Mike Trout, Mike, John Carlos Stanton, 234 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: and Paul Molader, and they were all absolutely seamless impersonations 235 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: of other hitters. So I asked him, like, what's the 236 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: deal with that. He goes, well, I just love baseball. 237 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: I just love watching guys swing, and I'd love to 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: imitate them. It's rare that you see a player in 239 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: today's age doing it. So he was doing it for 240 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: his teammates and they were howling with laughter because it 241 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: was so funny. So I told him the Moletor one 242 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: was absolutely perfect because he never played. 243 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: With Paul Paul Balader's yes, so. 244 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: I found it he was And then I told John 245 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: Schneider about this, and John Schneider, the manager, told me 246 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: that Davis Schneider will take one of those batting stances 247 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: into a game and say, all right, I'm going to 248 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: do the air Judge stands here, I'm going to do 249 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: John Carlos stan I'm going to do Paul Maler not 250 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: all the time, but once in a while. And then 251 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: he actually takes it bad with the stance from somebody else. 252 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 4: Do you find that odd? It's incredible, It's incredible. 253 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit not a real game, right. 254 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Come on, in a game and he's a good player, 255 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: so it works. And last thing, Jeff from the takeaway 256 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: is Don Mattingly is in the Hall is in the World. 257 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: Series for the first time. 258 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: You know, he almost made it as a Dodger manager 259 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: a couple times, but as a player he barely missed. 260 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: Remember he came up in eighty two, the Yankees went 261 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: to the World Series in eighty one. His final season 262 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: was ninety five and they won the World Series. The 263 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: Yankees did in ninety six, so he played eighty two 264 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: through ninety five and never played in the World Series 265 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: for the Yankees. But Jeff, this is the only story 266 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: you really need to know about Don Mattingley, who, after 267 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: Keith and Nan and as I believe, it's the greatest 268 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: defensive first baseman ever. He's certainly the best one I've 269 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: ever seen batting champion MVP. And if he hadn't heard 270 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: his back, he'd be in the Hall of Fame right now, easily, 271 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: because I think he was the best player in the 272 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: American League for a five year period. But this is 273 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: the only story you need to know. So it's ninety 274 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: five and his back is killing him, and the Yankees 275 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: have a good team. Buck Showalder is a manager, and 276 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: Don Mattingly goes to Buck Showalder like halfway through the 277 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: season it says, you got to take me out of 278 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: the cleanup spot. I'm not good enough to hit cleanup 279 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: for the Yankees right now. And then when the season ended, 280 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Jeff he went to Buck Showalders that you got to 281 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: go get another first baseman. I'm not good enough to 282 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: play first base for the Yankees anymore. Can you imagine that, Jeff. 283 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: This is a discussion that the manager has to have 284 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: with the injured, slash aging player, and it's the hardest 285 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: discussion in the world. Mike Hargrove, former Indians man at 286 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: the time, told me once, never ever, ever tell a 287 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: superstar player that he's done. That's the worst thing you 288 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: can possibly do, even though it has to be done. 289 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Don Mattingley told the manager himself, I can't do this anymore. 290 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm not good enough to play first base for the Yankees. 291 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: And they went and got Tino Martinez that offseason. And 292 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: won the World Series the next year. So that's who 293 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: Don Mattingley is and always will be. 294 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: Legendary. 295 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine having to have that conversation because. 296 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: With all of the high athletic. 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Iq of these players, I'm sure a lot of them 298 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: don't want to look inward and say, no, my better 299 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: years are behind me. But for Don Mattingley, who makes 300 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: a great manager now because he was able to have 301 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: the wherewithal to even manage himself, tell the manager, you 302 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: don't need to tell me this. I'm telling you this. 303 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: That's a good lesson for our kids, dad, for the youth, 304 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: for the families listening right now. I didn't really have 305 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: a tough decision saying telling you I was done with baseball, 306 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: because baseball was done with me before I even really started. 307 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a hard game. 308 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: You were a good little player and your heart wasn't 309 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: in it, and you can't play baseball unless your heart 310 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: is in it. 311 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: We've been over the under the courts. I only have 312 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: a few because there aren't many games. 313 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: And this is just a follow up on the Ernie 314 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: Clement using a glove from eBay. I made a terrible 315 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: reporter's mistake by not asking him where did you get 316 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: the glove from? So he said, I asked him again. 317 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: He said, it's a missouno glove. A little old lady 318 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: from Japan put it on on eBay and that's how 319 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: he got it. So that makes the story even better. 320 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: He's not just using and a glove he bought on eBay. 321 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: He bought it from an old Japanese lady. It's a 322 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: miszouno glove and she put it up. That's that's the 323 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: glove he's using. So there's an older woman in Japan 324 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: thinking to herself, Yeah, this third basement for the Blue Jays, 325 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: use my glove. 326 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: We were talking about that in the episode. 327 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: We talked about it like what someone's got to be 328 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: watching this thinking wow. I mean, listen, I sold a 329 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: desk on Facebook Marketplace the other day for like twenty bucks. 330 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be like at the reporter's 331 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: desk at NBC Nightly News anytime. But that's the comparison 332 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about. 333 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: Jeff or Unearly implement great and like I said, Addison 334 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: Barger is just a great conversationalist, a really funny guy. 335 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: So we talked about his grand Slam, first pinch hit 336 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: Grand Slam in World Series history. It was also obviously well, 337 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: it was his first Grand Slam of his career, So 338 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: he becomes the fourth player to hit his first career 339 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: Grand Slam in a World Series game because he never 340 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: hit one during the regular season, because this is really 341 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: his rookie year. 342 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: Essentially, he's played before, but this is one year he 343 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 4: really got chance. 344 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: Bobby Richardson, Chuck Hiller in nineteen sixty two Jose Kn'take 345 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: of nineteen eighty eight are the only guys to hit 346 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: their first career Grand Slam and it came in the 347 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: World Series. 348 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: Find that interestingssive? I find that interesting. And then there's 349 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman who went how long with that one and 350 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: then hit one of the biggest, the biggest Grand Slam 351 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: in World Series history. 352 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: He hit several before, he hit the biggest Grand before that, 353 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: but he went like two hundred and twenty six home 354 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: runs into his major league career without hitting a Grand Slam, 355 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: and then I think then he hit a bunch after that. 356 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm not going to try to remember that stat so. 357 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: You know, I keep hearing the same story about Freddie Freeman. 358 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: By the way, when Freddie Freeman retires, Dad, I genuinely 359 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: think of current players right now, he's my number one 360 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: ask as a guest. 361 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really firmly believe. 362 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 1: That because he threw and through I've never met the guy, 363 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: never spoken to the guy, seems like one the greatest 364 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: nicest in the world. And then I've heard this story, 365 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: and I'm sure baseball fans everywhere. 366 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: Have heard this story before. 367 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: But Freddie Freeman's mom passed away from melanola, and he 368 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: wears long sleeves for every game throughout the entire year. 369 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: So we're talking those hot, hot days in la in July, 370 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, hot hot, you know, humid days in Georgia. 371 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: He's wearing long sleeves in honor of his mother, to 372 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: protect his skin, but in honor of his mother. 373 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: Written that. 374 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: I've talked to him about it multiple times and he 375 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: has cried openly to me right in front of me. 376 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: Is he as good as I think he is? That 377 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: as a humans? Okay, that's good to hear. 378 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: And he's the future Hall of famer. He's a Hall 379 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: of Famer right now for me, if you're retired right. 380 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: Now, and he genuinely to me, gives don maddingly vibes 381 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: in that. I think he's the kind of guy to say, like, hey, 382 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: you can't keep me in the starting lineup. I'm not 383 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: the same guy. You can't keep me here. I need 384 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: something new because I'm not the guy I was. He 385 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: seems like that kind of team player. Number one guest 386 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: of current players. 387 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: I was okay, very good, all right. So Boba Schett 388 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: started a World Series game at second base, chef. He 389 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: had never played a Major League game at second base, 390 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: and then he started Game one of the World Series 391 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: at second base. So he is the first player to 392 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: start a World Series game in the infield, having not 393 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: played that infield position in the Major leagues since Jake 394 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: Flowers in nineteen thirty one with Saint Louis. And no 395 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: one's ever done this at Jake Flowers played third base, 396 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: but no one's ever done this at second base, but 397 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: never played second base before. And then he starts a 398 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: game in the World Series at second base, which again 399 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: is a difficult position to play, and he played well. 400 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: He got to hit his first at bat on a 401 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: three to zero pitch that they had him swinging on 402 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: three to zero. In his first at bats in September 403 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: the sixth and he made a pretty darn good play 404 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: to his right. So I was it was impressive bo 405 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: Bashett did in game one. 406 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: And last thing, the sixth, last twenty one thirty one, 407 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: Emily's birthday. 408 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: It comes up again. It's haunting me at this point. 409 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Way to go, Jeff, good memory, all right, Last thing, Jeff. 410 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: I had a little chat with Mookie Bets the other 411 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: day and I just related to him the story that 412 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: Jerry Harriston told us that Mookie Bets is the best 413 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: athlete he's ever been around, and that Mooki, you know, 414 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 2: hits a golf ball three hundred and ten yards. 415 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: He's you know, he spolled nine three hundred games. 416 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: And Jerry Harrison told us that that Mooki could play 417 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: slot receiver in the NFL right now and would start 418 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 2: at point guard for the Lakers. So for fun, just 419 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: for fun, I went to Mooki and said, look, this 420 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: is what Jerry Harriston said. So I said, what about 421 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: what about the Lakers point guard? And he laughed and 422 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: he said, I don't think that's going to happen. 423 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: I don't think I can do that. I don't think so. 424 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: But then when I said, what about slot receiver. He said, 425 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: I think I could do that. He thinks you could 426 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: play in the NFL right now, and given how fast 427 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: he is, given how quick he is, given how great 428 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 2: his hands are, maybe that's possible. So he left that 429 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: one open. Yeah, I think I could do that. How 430 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: about that? 431 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: Well? 432 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: And I also think that any athlete you ask that's 433 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: in baseball, what's the hardest thing to do in sport, 434 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: They'll say it's hitting a baseball. So if you can 435 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: hit a baseball, I'm not saying you can go play quarterback. 436 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: In the NFL. That's not what I'm getting at. 437 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, in the four major sports, 438 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: if the hardest thing pretty much agreed upon is hitting 439 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: a baseball thrown by a pitcher, then everything else is 440 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, I can figure that out. 441 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: I've told you many times the skills required to play 442 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: baseball transfer to the other sports way easier than basketball 443 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: and football skills transfer to baseball. I've told you a 444 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: million times. You put a ball of any kind in 445 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: the hands of a baseball player and he's going to 446 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: look like he knows what to do with that, and 447 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: he has played that before. 448 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: That's a fact. I believe in that. 449 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: On this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you 450 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: have for me? 451 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: Okay? 452 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: On this date in nineteen sixty four, Lenny Harris was born. 453 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: Lenny Harris had more pinch hit successful pinch hits two 454 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: hundred and twelve of any player in Major League history. 455 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: He also had eight hundred and four at bats as 456 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: a pinch hitter, so two hundred and twelve hits eight 457 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: hundred and four bats. Most Ever, I always loved it though, Jeff. 458 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't an. 459 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: Everyday player for most of his career, which explains all 460 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: these pinch hits. But when he was with the Rockies 461 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine, they had a bunch of guys 462 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: that came off the bench and could play anywhere. 463 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: And I did a little. 464 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: Story on those guys, and they called themselves the stuntman, 465 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: which I just loved. A stuntman is a guy who 466 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: starts the game on the bench and then he's asked 467 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: to come in and pinch hit or pinch runt or 468 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: played several different defensive positions. I love that phrase, the stuntman. Greed, 469 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: that's so cool, it's so perfect fitting. That's what you 470 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: got to be all right, let's see how well your 471 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: memory is. Jeff nineteen eighty eight. On this day, Corbin 472 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: Joseph was born. 473 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Corbin Joseph, brother of Caleb Joseph. 474 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: To go and remember the story. He told that he 475 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: and his brother played in high school together. His brother 476 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: hit for the cycle, and then Caleb, who was the 477 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: best player on the team, at a home run, a triple, 478 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: at a double when he came to the plate and 479 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: he he told me, hit a line drive back to 480 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: the picture and then Pitcher caught it. Otherwise he would 481 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: have hit for the cycle. Also, brothers hitting for the cycle. 482 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: I know it's a high school game, but that would 483 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: have been that would have been an all timer. Right. 484 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: Do you think Uncle Matt and Uncle Andy, your two 485 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: older brothers, ever came close to anything like that at. 486 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: Catholic No, not a chance. 487 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: Matt was a freshman and Andy was the scene and 488 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't think either one of. 489 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: Them ever hit for the cycle. 490 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: But the thought of doing it in the same game 491 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: with your brother, that's just phenomenal. 492 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: All right, dad, Do you have a team tim to 493 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: wrap up Tay's episode? 494 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? I do, And again, did. 495 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: You come up with it from the middle seat of 496 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: the airport I did. 497 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: Let me just say, though, Dad, you even though the 498 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: middle seat might stink for you, you might be the 499 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: best middle seat person ever. You're very slight. 500 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can fit. 501 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Your whole body in between the two arm rests. Yeah, 502 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: you're and you sleep like this, your head back. 503 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: You're easy. You're an easy seat. 504 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 505 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: People look at me and say, good, we got a 506 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: little guy. I told you the story, Jeff, I'm gonna 507 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: tell it again. I was on a baseball wrider's flight. 508 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: Not just baseball riders, but a bunch of us were 509 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: going from one place. 510 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: To the other. 511 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: This is like the mid nineties, okay. And there were 512 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: three baseball riders in the back of the plane, and 513 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: all three of them weighed well over three hundred pounds, 514 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: and they're sitting side by side by side. So one 515 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: of them, Marty Noble, comes up because he sees me 516 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: at the front of the plane. He comes up and 517 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: I have a middle seat near the front of the plane, 518 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: and he says, Tim, we need to make a trade here. 519 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: So I went and. 520 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: Sat in between the two three hundred pound guys in 521 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: the back of the plane, just so they didn't have 522 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: to sit three by three by three, So we switched 523 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: and Marty Noble went up and sat in a middle seat. 524 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: Not comfortable for him, but you're right. This is the 525 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: only advantage of being five to five and one hundred 526 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: and forty pounds is that I can sit in a 527 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: middle seat and come up with a Team Tim. So 528 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: the team Tim was inspired by Yamamoto who And it's 529 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: also Spencer Strider's birthday today, Spencer Stryder of course, Braves Pitcher, 530 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: he's really really good. 531 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 4: Today's birthday. 532 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: So let's see if you can figure out the team Tim. 533 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: Yoshi yea, I'm Amoto, Spencer Strider. 534 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 3: Is it initials with the same letter. 535 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: Yes, Jeff, you're really starting to think like me, which 536 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: really worries me that you would start to think this 537 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: quickly like me, because I don't want you to be 538 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: like this, Jeff, you should be doing something more important 539 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: on an airplane. 540 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: D that I'm gonna stop you there. You have corrupted 541 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: me beyond belief. Okay, I just want you to know 542 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: I love you, but I am totally cursed. I look 543 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: at box scores differently. I tried to come up with 544 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: an anagram for Blake Snell. What am I doing? 545 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: I have a daughter, Jeff. 546 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: Jeff, I told you and Kelly all these years. Whatever 547 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: you do, don't be like pop Pop. Don't be like 548 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: me it don't be like popop. Yeah, it's pathetic, it's sad, 549 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: but it's it makes me happy. So it got me 550 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: through a six hour flight. So it's the all repeating letters, 551 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: Team Tim and guess who are guests? 552 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: Who are first base? 553 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Is he's already appeared on this podcast. 554 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: Who is the first baseman? 555 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: We just Freddy Freeman. 556 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman f a right, and our second basement is 557 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Frankie Frish, Hall of Famer. You got lifetime three sixteen hitter, 558 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: which I believe is still the highest career average by 559 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: a switch hitter, which has always amazed me. 560 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 4: Jeff. 561 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: If switch hitting is such a great advantage, how come 562 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: no switch hitter ever hit three seventeen or higher for 563 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: his career. 564 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 4: You know it approves. 565 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: Switch hitting is really hard to do, and Frankie Fish 566 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: was one of the best switch hitters of all time. Now, 567 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: third base, I have Manny Machado in part because he's 568 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: still active and people might remember him. 569 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: But I have Buddy Bell down here. Also. I covered 570 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: him with. 571 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: The Rangers in the eighties, and he was one of 572 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: the great defensive third basemen I've ever seen and got 573 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: well over two thousand hits. I'm not sure why no 574 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: one thinks about Buddy Bell as a Hall of Famer. 575 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: I certainly do after watching him play all those years. 576 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: Shortstop is hard. 577 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: Jeff. 578 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: I came up with a bunch of shortstops, Boba chev 579 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: being won, but he didn't make the final cut. Trey 580 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Turner of the Phillies, but I landed. And again I 581 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: need some help from our listeners because I did this 582 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: off the top of my head on an airplane last 583 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: night or two nights ago. 584 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: Carlos Korea is the shortstop. Wow won a couple of World. 585 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: Series, did some really big things in the postseason, So 586 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm going with him at shortstop. Outfield is Mickey Mantle. 587 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: Mantle Barry Bond, Mini Oh, I could have gone with 588 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: Minnie who. 589 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Mini minus Hall of Fame. I thought you could have 590 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: gotten He played a little bit at third too. I mean, 591 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: not not a ton of games, but I was looking 592 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: it up really fast because I thought, that's who you're 593 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna go with. 594 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: Wow. 595 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: Jeff is a Hall of Famer also, but so is 596 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: Goose Goslin, So he's my third outfielder. Although I forgot 597 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: Minnie Minoso and you brought him in, So I'm glad 598 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: we brought him up. And our catcher was difficult, Jeff. 599 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: I considered Darren Dalton, but I ended up with Bob Boone, 600 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Boone's father, and Bob Boone won a ton of 601 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: gold gloves, played on some championship teams, and so I 602 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: landed on Bob Boone as the catcher. Now again, many 603 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: of our listeners have a better list than this. We're 604 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: more than happy to take your call or to take 605 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: an email or something, because there's some really clever people 606 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: out there, Jeff, a bunch of guys, and we're going 607 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: to get to these later this week and next week 608 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: and everything else. A lot of people have sent some 609 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: team tims in that just put mine to shame. There 610 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: are some really smart, clever people out there. 611 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know, a lot of people are learning the 612 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: game to the depths that you are along with me. 613 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm just shocked that there's a Goose Goslin and a 614 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: Goose Gossips, right, and I. 615 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: Did, yeah, at Goose Gossage is one, even though his 616 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: first name is Rich there are a bunch of pictures, Jeff, 617 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: A bunch of pictures with the repeating letters. So Burt 618 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: bly eleven, Mike Messina, Goose Gossage, Robin roberts Don Drysdale, Dizzy, Dean, 619 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: Red Roughing, maybe the best hitting pitcher, one of the 620 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: best hitting pictures ever, Yamamoto. Of course, we mentioned and 621 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: Candy Cummings who played in the in the eighteen hundreds, 622 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: and he is the guy that supposedly invented the curveball. 623 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: He's the first one who threw a curveball, Candy coming. 624 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: So that was what I came up with, Jeff on 625 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: my on my trip Sunday night from my difficult trip 626 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: five hour layover, six hour trip middle seat on American. 627 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: You did great. 628 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I just did a quick Google to double check Bo 629 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: Jackson's actual name. 630 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: It's Vincent Edward Jackson. So we didn't make that restake again. 631 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: We've made it multiple times. All Right, we're going to 632 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: try to get Bo Jackson on the show. We have 633 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 2: zero chance of that happening. 634 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: Zero. But who do we have on this week, Jeff? 635 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: Who do we have on this week? 636 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: We have the Shulmans. This is gonna be great. 637 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: We have a father son duo, Dad the first ever 638 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: father son duo to call a World Series game. Dan 639 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Shulman is the TV voice of the Blue Jays for Sportsnet. 640 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: His son Ben is the lead radio voice of the team. 641 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: This is historic. 642 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: This is the first time ever that we know of, 643 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, how incredible. And they're gonna be our guests 644 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: on our father son podcast during the World Nice. 645 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: That's exactly why we set it up this way, because 646 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: this is a relationship show. You and I are so 647 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: lucky to get to do this together. But they have 648 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 2: a better gig than we do, Jeff, they are calling 649 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: World Series games together, father and son. Now again they're 650 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: in different boosts, but they've done games together in the 651 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: same booth. 652 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 4: Which I think is it's so cool. 653 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we will have the Shulmans and that will. 654 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: Run on Wednesday. 655 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: Dan, of course, as a dear friend of mine from 656 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: all the years I worked with him at ESPN, did 657 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: games with him, did shows with him, and Ben I've 658 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: gotten to know now and I will warn everyone. Dan 659 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: Shulman's favorite movie is. 660 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: The Princess Bride, So we're going to talk about that 661 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: when we get on the air. Very undergrad You're going 662 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: to say it very funny. 663 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: They have a much I thought you were going to 664 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: say they have a much better gig than we do, 665 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: because they actually get paid to do their jobs and 666 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: we just do this podcast because it brings us enormous 667 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: ammgressive jewel. 668 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: We do this in our spare time. They do it 669 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: for a living. There's a big difference there. Job. 670 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: Make sure to check out that interview tomorrow and as 671 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: we mentioned Harold Reynolds last. 672 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: Week, if you missed it, go back in the podcast. 673 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: You do not want to miss it. So many great stories. 674 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, and as always, thanks for being 675 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: a part of our family.