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Speaker 1: There's a race in Wisconsin on April first that you

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Speaker 2: So far, over forty million.

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Speaker 1: Dollars has been spent on ad reservations, both aired already

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Speaker 1: or for future reservations in this race. It's the Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court race. So why does it matter? Why am

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Speaker 1: I covering it on here? You might ask, Well, you

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Speaker 2: We're talking about registracting, we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about election laws, We're talking about issues of crime,

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Speaker 1: much attention. That's why so much money is flowing into

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Speaker 1: this race. This race will determine the ideological outcome of

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And then you look at the

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Speaker 1: liberal candidate in this race. I mean, it's supposed to

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Speaker 1: And she sentenced a repeat child creditor who has found

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Speaker 1: years in prison. She's received donations from George Soros, so

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Speaker 1: you know where.

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Speaker 2: She stands on the issues.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need to know that George Soros supports

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Speaker 1: this woman. So we're going to have Judge Brad Shimmel

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Speaker 1: view the constitution? So stay tuned about this Wisconsin Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court race with the candidate, Judge Brad Schimmel.

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Speaker 2: Well, Judge Shimmel, it's great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: You've been busy.

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Speaker 1: You're in a tough race right now, which is recently

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Speaker 2: We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: Over forty million has been spent on ad reservations, both

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Speaker 2: Why do you think this has gotten so much attention.

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Speaker 3: Well, it started in twenty twenty three with the race

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Speaker 3: national billionaire liberal donors promising that if she got on

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Speaker 3: They saw that opportunity in twenty twenty three, they took

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Speaker 1: And also redistricting as well, which you know, the liberal

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Speaker 2: In this race, specifically this would this comes down to

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Speaker 3: Right, this is it And if if a conservative doesn't win,

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Speaker 2: What do you think this race comes down to?

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Speaker 1: You know, what would you put up as sort of

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Speaker 3: It's a very simple, very traditional issue. Courts need to

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Speaker 3: Would any of you make would eether you make a

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Speaker 1: And we saw the court recently rule in issues like

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Speaker 3: They need to know that the court's playing politics with this.

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Speaker 1: We've got more with Judge Shimmel, but first, after more

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about Susan Crawford.

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Speaker 3: She was a highly partisan Chief Legal counsel for former

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Speaker 3: of many cases we've found that demonstrate extraordinarily bad judgment

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Speaker 3: it was more important to focus on that offender and

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Speaker 1: Community, Which would make sense why someone like George Sorows

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Speaker 3: Her yeah, to the tune of a million dollars before

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Speaker 1: Then she's attacking you for Elon Musk involving himself and

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Take us through your time as.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the you know, the left accuses

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Speaker 3: there's no politics. Everything in our life now is political.

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Speaker 3: We swear that we will administer justice without regard to persons.

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Speaker 3: that's refreshing to me. That's what I'm most proud of

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Speaker 2: Would you describe yourself as an originalists?

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Speaker 1: And then before we go, why do you think we've

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Speaker 2: What's behind that?

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Speaker 3: Because liberals are frustrated that their ideas can't win at

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Speaker 3: So they've figured out just like they figured out decades

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Speaker 3: And they have. They've done the same thing now with

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Speaker 3: courts can make the rules the way the liberals want.

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Speaker 2: And where can people go to support you?

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Speaker 3: Shimmel for Justice dot com, s C H I AM E,

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Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to ask for donations, that's prohibited for

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Speaker 3: how you can help our campaign, help us to win.

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Speaker 2: On April first, Good Shimo.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, sir, and we hope.

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Speaker 2: That you win. So thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was Judge Brad Shimmel. Appreciate him for making the

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Speaker 1: time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home

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Speaker 1: for listening every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: But you can listen throughout the week until next time