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Speaker 2: Puled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 3: Dies for the en zone, he said, touchdown.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there. Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want to make it clear right off the top,

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Speaker 2: I'm not questioning any one's mental toughness or mental fortitude

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Speaker 2: on this podcast whatsoever. But I do sort of feel like,

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Speaker 2: not just the point guard, if you will, Danny Surrek,

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Speaker 2: Darren Urban Poly podcast here, I feel like, maybe like

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Speaker 2: this support group leader, if you will, if needed, you know,

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Speaker 2: and if you do just means you care. So I

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Speaker 2: searched up here to be an effective support group leader.

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Speaker 2: What do you need? The skill set combines elements of supportive, democratic,

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Speaker 2: and facilitative styles, focusing on creating a safe environment, okay,

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Speaker 2: empowering members here rather than directing them. Being supportive prioritizes

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Speaker 2: member welfare and emotional needs. So hopefully by the time

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Speaker 2: we're done with Cardinals Underground, you'll be able to check

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Speaker 2: all those boxes basically on my performance review?

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Speaker 4: Are you Matt Foley motivational speaker here?

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Speaker 2: It's a good one.

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting.

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Speaker 2: That's right after the cow bell. That's two weeks in

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Speaker 2: a row. Ancient SNL there you go? Where's where's Gershman?

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Speaker 2: Does he better know about Matt Fole?

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Speaker 4: He probably doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You know what the light was on for Zach? Not anymore.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you're here for us, Paul, because really, what

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Speaker 4: would we do without you?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? You know It's okay. That was a little snarky,

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Speaker 2: little snide comment there, that was out the side of

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Speaker 2: his mouth, Danny, I mean you know, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 2: there's two kinds of people during the bye week. You

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Speaker 2: either need or you shun the support group. I mean,

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Speaker 2: which which side are you on? Right there?

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Speaker 3: I know I'm truly just out a loss of words.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't know I fell into either those categories.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to wrap my head around how we started.

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Speaker 2: This, Okay, I'm just trying to deal with five straight

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Speaker 2: losses by thirteen points.

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Speaker 4: It's emotionally not each by the way, that would be

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Speaker 4: thirteen total points. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did I not say the word total?

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Speaker 4: You said thirteen total points?

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Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully I said that. And look, you guys are

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Speaker 2: the postgame radio interviews. Locker room adjacent, So whatever that

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Speaker 2: area is, Uh, work with me, Darren, Okay, and you

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Speaker 2: tell me, I mean, you know, diagnose the vibe, the mood,

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Speaker 2: because very few people ever set foot in the Cardinal's

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Speaker 4: The one thing that's that sticks with me. I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously they're not happy. I can't get passed Kalais Campbell

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Speaker 4: talking about things in the group, and Khalaius, who would

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Speaker 4: basically saying, somebody said what exactly needs to happen? And

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Speaker 4: I think he was going to drop an adjective in there,

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Speaker 2: Was going to punctuate it with a certain word. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: When when Klayis Campbell gets that way, then that's a

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Speaker 4: I am remarkably pleased by like how they've been able

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Speaker 4: I truly believe they are able to do that.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesdays, Yeah, on the Monday after this latest loss,

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Speaker 2: draft picks and free agent signees, and then he went

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Speaker 2: I told him today if we didn't have a good team,

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Speaker 2: you flat out we'd be in trouble. We would, because

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Speaker 2: I've had experiences where we didn't have the fabric of

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Speaker 2: room full of mercenaries and guys on one year contracts

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Speaker 2: just looking out for themselves, and yeah, things can go

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Speaker 2: that was even after lost number four in a row

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Speaker 2: right after Tennessee, after Indianapolis, and then you walk into

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Speaker 3: A way that the players are not upset, upset about

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Speaker 3: reality is, though they mean it when they say you

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Speaker 3: have twenty four hours to flush the game and move forward,

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Speaker 3: you cannot allow a game to beat you twice. And

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Speaker 3: you want to see a locker room that still has energy,

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Speaker 3: that still has belief in each other and what they

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Speaker 3: tough to get back. It is good to see that

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Speaker 3: a lot of football still to be played. There have

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Speaker 3: plenty to work on, absolutely, but you want to see

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Speaker 3: And look around the league. You see teams, even when

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Speaker 3: is important to have team first players with that mentality,

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Speaker 3: and that's what they have built on this team.

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Speaker 2: The biggest question to me coming out of the buy,

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Speaker 2: and it's the same question we've posed after every single game,

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Speaker 2: win or lose, is just the word finish. And it

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Speaker 2: is a remarkable stat that the Cardinal's point differential on

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Speaker 2: the year is the same point differential as the Tampa

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Speaker 2: One team is five and two, the others two and five.

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Speaker 2: Because the Cardinals point differential in the fourth quarter, brace

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Speaker 2: yourself is negative forty seven. So when we've talked this

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Speaker 2: last month about what's correctable and what's concerning, and we

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Speaker 2: put most everything into the correctible column. The whole fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter thing at this point, if there's no if there's

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, the whole fourth quarter thing

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Speaker 2: is is leaning into the much more into the concerning

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Speaker 4: It's funny that same interview with Kalais after the game.

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Speaker 4: Somebody said what needs to change, and he said, just

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Speaker 4: nothing else has to change, and there's a lot to that. Now, again,

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Speaker 4: And that's the part of like, you're right, the fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter needs to change. Yes, there is no question, because

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Speaker 4: that's what's front and center. However, you could have, in theory,

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Speaker 4: done nothing different in the fourth quarter. But if you

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Speaker 4: don't give up a field goal right before halftime, you

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, or what Paris Johnson Junior

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Speaker 2: to be close? Yes, how about a blowout going into

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, Paul, as somebody who has

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Speaker 4: you want to have something up. Now. This is way

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Speaker 4: worse on road games because I'm downstairs and you only

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Speaker 4: to calmly be in the press conference. Way different. However,

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Speaker 4: on a very personal note, and let's let's make no

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Speaker 4: in that last thirty seconds. I mean, it's thrilling for

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Speaker 3: Even though even the wins have been close. Week one

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Speaker 3: in New Orleans, they needed that one play in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, second to last play the game, and the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals defense delivered. That was an incredible pass breakup a

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Speaker 3: tag team of DB's Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. They've

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Speaker 3: been that close in their five losses. Interesting enough, fourth

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Speaker 3: quarter has been the problem in all five of those losses,

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Speaker 3: yet every loss is still unique. San Francisco was self

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Speaker 3: all self inflicted. That that's a team that's a bad

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Speaker 4: I forgot about that game what happened in that game.

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Speaker 3: But then you look at the last two the Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: not just hanging in there. They were leading those games

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Speaker 3: They are just a few plays away, which is what's

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Speaker 3: so frustrating. The Cardinals are not getting blown out of

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Speaker 3: the water. You really are a few plays away. And

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Speaker 3: that's the difference in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I also had some people mailbag. Mail Bag has been

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Speaker 4: interesting last couple weeks. You know, whether you want to

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Speaker 4: equal opportunity opportunities here, Like, yes, if the offense does

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Speaker 4: at times, would they have won these games? Yes, But

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, what about the thought of

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Speaker 2: You know, it's really interesting you say that because on

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Speaker 4: On this team, and he said that all last year

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Speaker 3: I know that it's somewhat move because the Cardinals lost

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Speaker 4: Which is what Danny was mentioning earlier. And that makes

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Speaker 3: I mean this. I shouldn't even be bringing this up

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Speaker 2: For example, on fourth and two and they complete the

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Speaker 4: On the fourth and two. I'm not sure Garrett is

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Speaker 2: News alert. Trey McBride does that all the time. Yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: What doesn't happen all the time is us getting cultured

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Speaker 3: To here getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he got me very excited.

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Speaker 2: Now I am on.

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Speaker 3: Social media and consume more at pop culture than both

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go.

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Speaker 3: I've been meeting to bring this one up on getting Cultured.

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Speaker 2: I did miss that, maybe.

436
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: Because the whole point of the segment.

437
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I was too preoccupied by the fact that

438
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: my alma mater almost lost a Belichick last Friday night.

439
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: But what the what they're calling? You know what they're

440
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: calling that play at the goal line, the clutch punch,

441
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: The clutch punch where the player came out and knocked

442
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: it out closer goodness, Yes.

443
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: Don't hang it in the loop. There was a heist

444
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: in Broad Daylight.

445
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw.

446
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: I did not.

447
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: You didn't see this.

448
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 4: I'm getting cultured.

449
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: There were stolen though stolen jewels worn by French royalty.

450
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: So the thieves dressed up as construction workers Broad Daylight,

451
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: used a crane lift and a chainsaw to break into

452
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 3: the louver and stole jewels. So far, authorities have only

453
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: found two pieces that they must have dropped on that.

454
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: I saw that movie. It wasn't that good.

455
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 3: Well, because this is Ocean's fourteen.

456
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they posed as construction workers and it took them

457
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: all of four minutes to get in and out. So

458
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: there's a construction worker like a yellow vest and a

459
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: hard hat, drilling into the case with this, you know,

460
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: this jewelry that's three hundred years old, and nobody thought otherwise,

461
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: because they thought and.

462
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 3: By the time they case and by the time authorities realized,

463
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: they were out of there.

464
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: Damn.

465
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: In similar news, a Pobblova costing painting for six hundred

466
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars was stolen on its way to

467
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: a Spanish art museum. There was a van carrying dozens

468
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: of pieces to the museum, and three days later, when

469
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: the crates were opened undone the painting had vanished. It's

470
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: a small painting, about five inches by just under four inches.

471
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: An authority say there was an unscheduled overnight stop. However,

472
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: bow drivers claimed that they took turns sleeping in or

473
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: near the van to keep walking.

474
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: I just would you mentioned Pablo Picasso and this is

475
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: this is a failure on my part.

476
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: Okay, but you're gonna have to narrow that down, fair.

477
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: I I was, I was pretty old before I realized

478
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 4: that my lifespan in Pablo Picasso's lifespan overlapped. You know,

479
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: I always think, Okay, this dude is from like the

480
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds, or which he technically is. He was born,

481
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: but he didn't die until nineteen seventy three, for goodness sake.

482
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So they knew what they were looking for.

483
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: There were a bunch of paintings in the van, but

484
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: they left the dogs playing poker on velvet, and then

485
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: they took.

486
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: The which I heard was Picasso's favor.

487
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: Sure you've both been cultured. You're welcome, we have. I

488
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: got both of.

489
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: You art heists. I know, goodness gracious.

490
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: Gotta be careful. Okay, but if you're able to pull

491
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: off an art heist in broad daylight, okay, what's off

492
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: limit these days?

493
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: First of all, I always wonder about this stuff. It's like, Okay,

494
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: you get this painting that's worth a ton, and or

495
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: you get these jewels that are worth a ton. And

496
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I realized there's a black market

497
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 4: out there in the world. But it would seem so

498
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: difficult to offload those things and not have it get

499
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: tracked back to you. I just think that, you know

500
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: Hans Gruber and the bear bonds, it just makes more

501
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 4: sense to me.

502
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: And Ocean's eight. They they did a really good job

503
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 3: taking apart in the jewels and then making them in

504
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: the ear rings and necklaces and getting a whole bunch

505
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: of other things made.

506
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: Was the Hans Gruber diehard? Was that? It was diehard?

507
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: Yes, because I'm surprised you looked at me like you knew,

508
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 4: Paul you did.

509
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: You should quite the guts to, you know, blurt it

510
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: out in the moment. So okay, let's see here the

511
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: the sheet, the game plan says quarterback. We don't know

512
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: who's going to be quarterback for sure in the next

513
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: game that comes around. All we know is the head

514
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: coach maintains, if Kyler Murray is healthy, he is the quarterback.

515
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: What have you seen out of Jacoby Brissett? And anything

516
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: you've seen out of Jacoby Brisset that feasibly viably maybe

517
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray watched and could incorporate. You know, I was saying, Look,

518
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: one thing Kyler Murray has not had in his career.

519
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: He's been starter since day one, K one, QB one,

520
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: number one pick overall starter right out of the gate.

521
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Never had a chance. Even like Drake May had five

522
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: games last year to sit behind Jacoby Brissett in New England,

523
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray was never afforded that privilege. So is there

524
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: a possibility that maybe Kyler was on the sideline and

525
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: I spent most of the last two games standing behind

526
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: QB one and he's watching Jacoby Brissett executor Drew Petsing

527
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: offense and do it, you know, with a lot of

528
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: experience and knowledge going back to their Cleveland days. I

529
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: can't tell you how much time they spend on the

530
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: sideline in between possessions, Drew Petson and Jacoby Brissett seemingly

531
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: just drawing it up in the dirt, like looking at

532
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: the play sheet and saying, Okay, I like this, I

533
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: like that, you know, throw this out. We're gonnajust that.

534
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: So you know there's a lot of collaboration going on

535
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 2: on that sideline.

536
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you hope. I mean like, I don't know.

537
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what's been going on in these meetings.

538
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly the conversations that's going on. I mean,

539
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: it's factually they're different quarterbacks. There's only so much crossover

540
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 4: in my head that they're going to do. Just like

541
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: if you go into a game and you are expecting

542
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett to get you know, five off scheduled rushes

543
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: for eight to ten yards, You're probably not going to

544
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: get those. So I do think that needs to be

545
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: taken into account. And but it it has looks good

546
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: with Jacoby. The fact that you can get a backup

547
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: quarterback to come in and play so soadly, which obviously

548
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: many people have noticed, uh is is notable. I mean

549
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 4: you need to you need to make note of it.

550
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: You know that said you're still I hate to dial

551
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 4: it back, but I mean you're still ending up with

552
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: the same results. Yeah, the offense has been performing a

553
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 4: little bit better, but not well enough. And you know,

554
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 4: you you think to yourself, if it's if it's fourth

555
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: and one and a half, and yeah, Jacoby said's a

556
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: bigger guy in the and the and the quarterback sneak

557
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: had been working really well, and maybe that's who goes

558
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 4: in there at that point, even if Kyler is healthy

559
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: for that play. But if Kyler's in there, you call

560
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: a different play. And maybe, you know, there's there's a

561
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: lot of things that go into this. I don't I

562
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 4: think I think too many people are trying to make

563
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: this a super black and white kind of topic. I

564
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: do not agree that it's black and white. I understand

565
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: where people are coming from. I think you can make

566
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: an argument on both sides. I don't think it's as

567
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: black and white as everybody.

568
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett had another good game. Did not result in

569
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: a win, which is tough because because that's the most

570
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: important thing. But he did play well. He was twenty

571
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: five of thirty six, but more than half of his

572
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: completions were for a first down. Brissett's not the most mobile,

573
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: which is actually one of his better qualities is his

574
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: ability to stay in the pocket and withstand those hits

575
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: and wait for the receivers to break their routes and

576
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: get the ball out. Even with the hand in his face,

577
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: Brissett still ran the ball six times for twenty six yards,

578
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: so he's able to run through the pocket when it's

579
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: collapsing and he has to. There's still plays that Brissette's

580
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: gonna want back rewatching the game of Okay, he had

581
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: this receiver open, didn't get the ball out quite fast enough.

582
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: But Brissette has looked very calm under pressure, and he

583
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: has been poised in the pocket, and that offensive line

584
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: struggled against the Packers' front. Now Micah Parsons is unlike

585
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: many in this league. He is tough, not just for

586
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: the Cardinals O line, but for any O line in

587
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: the league. And the Cardinals did the best that they

588
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: could in the sense that you know. Parsons said after

589
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: the game, I wasn't expecting to be one on one

590
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: as many times as I was, And if you watch it,

591
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't really one on one a lot. He was

592
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: just winning. There were a lot of times that the

593
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: Cardinals were pulling right guard will Hernandez to join right

594
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: tackle Jonah Williams, and they were tat teaming him and

595
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Parsons was so good that he was finding a way

596
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: to beat both of them. Parsons was one on one

597
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: with Paris Johnson Junior, who for the most part did

598
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 3: a pretty good job in negating that. And it was

599
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: more than just Parsons. I mean, kwy Walker had a

600
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: very good game. It was just it was it was

601
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: a tough game for the office mine Gary and Bursett

602
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: did a really nice job staying in the pocket. He

603
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: took twelve quarterback hits, six of those for sacks, and

604
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: he did a nice job staying poised through that.

605
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: I just on the Parsons thing, I did want to

606
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: bring this up. Yes, I know because many people showed

607
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: it to me, and you didn't need to show it

608
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: to me because I saw it. I understand. Michael Parsons

609
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: said after the game they left me one on one

610
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: more often, But they left me one on one and

611
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: teams hadn't done that. That doesn't mean they left him

612
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 4: one on one the whole game. It means that there's

613
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: a lot of teams that maybe do it three times

614
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: and the Cardinals might have done it ten times. That's

615
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: what that means.

616
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: This wasn't Chandler Jones against Taylor Luwan, No, it was not.

617
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: I actually went back and watched every single Parsons snap

618
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: just to get a sense of what was going on.

619
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: And there were absolutely times when the Cardinals had something

620
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: set up where there should have been a couple guys

621
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: dealing with it and it didn't get dealt with. There

622
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: were definitely times when there was one on one most

623
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: of them felt like they were in the first half

624
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: against Paris Johnson. Paris did get beat once on a sack.

625
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: For the most part, I thought he did a decent

626
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: job when he was going one one with Michael Parsons

627
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: at one point. Are our good cohort Craig Realley wanted

628
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: to say, Yeah, we talked about a certain play and

629
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, I part of Paris got pushed back,

630
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, but on that play, Jacobe still

631
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: got to pass off and it's still gained eight yards

632
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. And what I told Craig was,

633
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: I'm not about to be the fundamental police. If Michael

634
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: Parsons gets blocked and he doesn't make the play, that's

635
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: all that matters. If we're looking for like beautiful, I

636
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: think that's the wrong way to look at it. And

637
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: I think there were times again Micah had a very

638
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: good game. But when I think of a guy wrecking

639
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: a game, I'm thinking of you're not able to do

640
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: anything offensively. And the Cardinals were in a position to

641
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: get the game winning touchdown in the end if they

642
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: had If the Packers had lost the game and Michael

643
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: Parsons had had three sacks, who gives a flying fig.

644
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's not like they did anything that the

645
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Cardinals weren't expecting. All the all the offensive linemen talked

646
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: all week about how he's gonna come off both edges

647
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 2: and on third down. Guess what they're gonna put him

648
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: inside or you just won't know where he'll be on

649
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: third down. And and you know what the Cardinals knew

650
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: as well that Jeff Hafley, their defensive coord for the Packers,

651
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: was gonna stuff Michael Parsons inside why to prevent the

652
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: chip blocks on the edge. And then we talked in

653
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: the pregame show about how man this would have been

654
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: a good game to have Tip Ryman. Would have been

655
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: nice to have Tip Ryman as you know that blocking

656
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: tight end, that why tight end to be alongside Jonah

657
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: Williams or Paris Johnson junior.

658
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: That's a topic I know meaningless.

659
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was a tough deal speaking of Tip Ryman.

660
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: At the bye week your review, you go back and

661
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: you sort of assess, okay, your keys to this season,

662
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: right and and and I am reminded of my one

663
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: key to the season that I gave you. And I

664
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: sort of cheated one key because my one key was actually.

665
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: Ki, you gave us one key.

666
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: But okay, ultimately I decided on one key, Danny. It

667
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: was a process, trust the process, and it was the

668
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: one key though, as I said, I cheated because it

669
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: was the twelve player draft class that was last year

670
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: of two thousand.

671
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: I remember that podcast, so that seems like six years ago.

672
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: It does. It really was only seven games ago. And

673
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: I threw out there, well, if you get difference making

674
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: seasons from Marvin Ayrrison Junior and Darius Robinson and Max

675
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: Melton and Trey Benson, Isaiah Adams and Tip Ryman and

676
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: Elijah Jones, and that only takes you through round three.

677
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: That's how many draft picks were last year. And then

678
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: the back half of the draft really is headlined by

679
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 2: Taylor or by Rabbit Taylor Demerson as you look down

680
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: and you know right there, look, there's room for improvement

681
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four draft class, no doubt, no doubt.

682
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: A handful those players are hurt, yep, but absolutely you

683
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: need more. What has been nice the last few games

684
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: is seeing the receiver step up. That includes Marvin Harrison Junior.

685
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: He drew a really important pass interference call even against

686
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 3: the Packers, So I think that Harrison has looked good

687
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: and Jay Jones and Michael Wilson have really stepped up

688
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: the last two weeks. When this offense has needed the

689
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: pass game to get going. The run game has been

690
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: a frustration all season, even when you had James Connor healthy,

691
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't able to get rolling off the bat the

692
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: way we expected based on how last season ended with

693
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: such intense carryover personnel wise from the offense. Connor goes down,

694
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: you have Trey Benson. Benson gets hurt shortly after well,

695
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: then next thing you know, running back of Mari de

696
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: Mercado is hurt. So now the Cardinals, with Bam Knight

697
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: Michael Carter being signed to the active roster Denest Johnson,

698
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: you're on running backs four, five, and six. And that's

699
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: with an offense that's also playing without their starting quarterback,

700
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: without their top two blocking tight ends. And while it's

701
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: next man up, mentality is, this is a pretty different

702
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: personnel grouping offensively than what this team was planning on

703
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: having when they were making their playbook and getting everything

704
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: going at the start of the season. These are different

705
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: skill sets.

706
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna say earlier, and then we got sidetracked.

707
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: But when you bring up Michael Wilson and Zay Jones,

708
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: if I'm Kyler Murray and I've watched the last two

709
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: games like yes, with the front row seat and the

710
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: whites stripe the sideline, my trust is reinforced in those

711
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: two guys to give them a chance to make a

712
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: play downfield. Second and third level, you know, and trust

713
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: is everything in the whole quarterback pass catcher dynamic, that chemistry,

714
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 2: that relationship. You got to trust when that ball leaves

715
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: your hand that your guy's gonna make a play or

716
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: if he doesn't reel in the catch, he's gonna prevent

717
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: an interception. And obviously Michael Wilson and Say Jones have

718
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: made some tremendous contested catches, physical catches down the field.

719
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: They've tracked that ball. So I am curious when Kyler

720
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: does get healthy, he does get back out in the

721
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: field if he's more willing than ever to give those

722
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: guys a chance to eat.

723
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: From that list, cornerback Max Melton and safety rabbit Taylor

724
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: Demerson have done a nice job with their reps this year.

725
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: They have looked good as a whole, The dbs have

726
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: looked good. Now, are they giving up a lot of

727
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: yardage a lot of pass plays as teams are playing

728
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: from behind in the fourth quarter, Yes, but the way

729
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: they've executed for the most part has been good. A

730
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: player you also need more from is defensive lineman daries Robinson.

731
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: He didn't miss two games with a peck injury, but

732
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: this year so far he's got two tackles for loss,

733
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: one sack, one quarterback hit. I know that the plan

734
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: is once you get the rookie Waltern on the third

735
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: out there, that that could allow Robinson to maybe shift

736
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: out side a little bit, maybe pass rush more as

737
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: opposed to just being involved in the run game. That

738
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: you need more from fifty six. So there's really no

739
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: way around it. As a former first round pick.

740
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Agannon said he looks explosive. That was a

741
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: direct quote this week, but you know, we need to

742
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: hear we need to hear his name called more during

743
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: a broadcast and.

744
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: He was credited with three pressures against the Packers, which

745
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: he also played his fewer snaps a gear when he's

746
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: coming back from the peck. So hopefully that's a that's

747
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: a sign of things to.

748
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: Come, hopefully trending up. So like one of us was

749
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: last week trending up? Right? Was it last week I won?

750
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: Or the week before was two weeks ago?

751
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: Paula, Okay, really two weeks ago.

752
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: I can't still hold on to that.

753
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: You can hold on We have a gift.

754
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: Paul, here we go wise Guy in three two one,

755
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: It's time for the wise Guy the World's Fastest Growing

756
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: Cardinals Quiz Show.

757
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: The stakes are low, the winner gets absolutely nothing. Here's

758
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: your hostess with the Mostess Denny's Air.

759
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: Right. Wise Guy trivia continues even during the bye week.

760
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: No it, yeah, we're sure about this, you know, the

761
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: no days off, no weeks off. Coach Ballichick speaking of

762
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what could the subject be exactly?

763
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: What would be the theme for those who say that

764
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: we don't want you to win? That's not true. So

765
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: we're changing things up from football.

766
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

767
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: NBA is about to kick off, So these are basketball

768
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 3: themed questions with the Cardinals tie.

769
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: Okay, could this be more down the center lane for

770
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: Darren Urban? Then we're gonna talk basketball.

771
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: Why don't you shoot the lasers from your eyes? From

772
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: me to our executive producer, Jim of one hundred and

773
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: the Glass, who writes the questions.

774
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: Paul, when we get around one hundred a big NBA

775
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: fan as we all know.

776
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: So when we get around to an eighteen game season

777
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: and two buys, one of those buys needs to be

778
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: classic car questions. Okay, let's go let's go bring it.

779
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm ready, let's go.

780
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna get some tool.

781
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Let's let's bring it. Let's bring it in trouble, let's.

782
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: Go number the rating champ.

783
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 4: Number three, please number three. Where are you going, Alex?

784
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: One of the most exciting shots in basketball is the

785
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: three pointer, which Cardinals kicker holds the team record for

786
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: most consecutive three pointers and air without a miss. Hint

787
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: he played in the Arizona era.

788
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Neil Rackers.

789
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: Dang it, that was my answer.

790
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: Yes, thirty one consecutive field goals in two thousand and five.

791
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: This is amazing. On the we're recording this on NBA

792
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: Opening Night, and we're gonna.

793
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Have wall this except we didn't. Okay, here we go.

794
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: Let's see here. We talked about Mac Wilson senior earlier, number.

795
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: Two, number two. This former Cardinals defender was an honorable

796
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: mention McDonald's high School All American basketball player during his

797
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: senior year of high school in the late nineties.

798
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I was around those teams. It was Vince Tobin.

799
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: Let's see late nineties Cardinals defender high school McDonald's high

800
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 2: School All American basketball player. Really hmmm, all.

801
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: Right, Tommy Knight, Darren with the possible steal.

802
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: It was a defender in the late nineties.

803
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: Good he went to high school in the late nineties.

804
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: I went to high school, Adrian Wilson.

805
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Correct, Oh, not only do I get it wrong, but

806
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: we gotta give a dub props. Are you serious? Really right, Paul?

807
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: You can always get worse Darren?

808
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: Question four?

809
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: Uh, well, we talked. Following Paul's thought process, we talked

810
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 4: about Kyler Murray saw many number one.

811
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: There's one.

812
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: There's no way. Aduble was a McDonald's All American basketball player,

813
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean honorable mention. Are you sure he didn't add

814
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: that to his own Wikipedia page. I think I actually

815
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: was capable of doing that.

816
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: I think now that I think about it, I think

817
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: I do have a photo of his little.

818
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Certificate, mister sixty inth vertical.

819
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go, Here we go, Darren. Question one.

820
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: The father of a former Cardinals offensive player spent eleven

821
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: seasons playing in the NBA and won a title in

822
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine. Name both the father and son.

823
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: Okay, see now I have this the two that Darren got.

824
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: I knowed you repeat?

825
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: Please sure, because you asked so nicely, the father of

826
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: a former Cardinals offensive player spent eleven seasons playing in

827
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: the NBA and won a title in nineteen seventy nine.

828
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: Name both the father and son.

829
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 4: That would be Lonnie Shelton of the Seattle SuperSonics and LJ.

830
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: Shelton former tackle That.

831
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: Sure would be Darren officially gets the win. Let's just

832
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: do this question for funzies, Paul, I mean, come on,

833
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: let's see it all right, Maybe you can convince Darren

834
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: for winner takes all on the final question.

835
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: Probably not.

836
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 3: No, You're not even gonna try.

837
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want this to end.

838
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, hang on a little longer.

839
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: Here we go.

840
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: On July fourth, nineteen eighty six, Cardinals legendary wide receiver

841
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: and Ring of Honor member Roy Green played in a

842
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: three on three event? Do you want me to continue

843
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: the question?

844
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: Roy Green? Three on three?

845
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: He played in a three on three event with NBA

846
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: stars Michael Jordan, Dominique Wilkins, Patrick Ewing, James Worthy, and

847
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: Johnny Dawkins.

848
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: Can I stall long enough to text Roy Green?

849
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: You should know this. You should know this. Here we go.

850
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: Which well known monument served as the location for the exhibition.

851
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: The arch.

852
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: He got right to bad. You didn't convince Darin to

853
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 3: do Winner Takes All eighty six.

854
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: They're in Saint Louis. I don't know many other monuments.

855
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: Almo did do it, so it could have been Old

856
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 4: Bush Stadium.

857
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: Oh I see, Okay.

858
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: Good deductive reasoning. Darren gets the win.

859
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: Darren got the question.

860
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: So disappointed if he did not win the basketball themed

861
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: wise guy trivia.

862
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: He got the questions directed to him in an opportune times.

863
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: That's what he really got. Okay. So it's you know,

864
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: it is about the play calling. It's not always about

865
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: the players. You know, it can be about the play

866
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: So all right, uh, speaking of playmakers, Trey McBride, I

867
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: just said earlier, I advised I I did advise Craig

868
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: Griilo and Rob Frederickson. Appreciate what you're seeing, gentlemen, Trey

869
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: McBride and the caliber of playing what he's doing out there.

870
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 2: You know, there are moments and there are players. Adrian

871
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Wilson but grudgingly was one of those guys where you

872
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: have to appreciate what you're seeing out on that field.

873
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: And to be set all these records and every time

874
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: a game ends and he's a Cardinals leading pass catcher.

875
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: And then there's another historical record about no tight end

876
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: has done this in their first three or four seasons,

877
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, and he really didn't even make

878
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: much of a mark his first season and a half.

879
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: It's truly been impressive. And what's impressive to is how

880
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: many resources opposing defenses are devoting towards stopping Trey McBride

881
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: and and and they can't do it.

882
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: He's talked a lot about that recently, and yet he's

883
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: getting He's been really good the last few weeks. You know, Sunday,

884
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: Paul is National tight End's Day, is it?

885
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: Okay?

886
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you sell.

887
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: So there's tight End you and then there's National tight

888
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: End's Day. Yes, masterful marketing. Who's response? Don't tell me

889
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: it's Kelsey. Who's who's responsible? As a Kittle? It's Kit Kittle, Okay.

890
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: I mean Kelsey's in there, but I think Kittle's pushing

891
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 4: the train, which, hey, that's just smart. I mean it's

892
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: almost like somebody who has the name Paul putting all

893
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: these names after himself to promote his own brand.

894
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: Stop stop I already.

895
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: That's true. I keep forgetting he's got people in his ear.

896
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: Don't need to rub it in. So okay, yeah, national

897
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: tight end date? Now is that is that a detriment

898
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: because the Cardinals aren't a bye That's that's not.

899
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think we're going to see a

900
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: whole lot of content because Trey is gonna be off

901
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: those days. But here's here's my question, very serious. Now,

902
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: like and you're down on the field seeing this like

903
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 4: up close and personal, but like, is he the best

904
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 4: tight end in the league right now? I mean, brock

905
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: Bowers is dealt with injuries all year, Kelsey's older Kittle

906
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: has been hurt. Kittle played a game without a catch

907
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: the other day, Like I think it might have been

908
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 4: the first time since.

909
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: He was a rookie.

910
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: He's the blocking tight end.

911
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And don't get me wrong, he's still a very

912
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: good player. But like I Laporta is good.

913
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: But I I, you know, consistent is someone who has

914
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: him on the PAULI Pigskins, the fantasy football team. Laporta

915
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: is inconsistent. I wish I had trading.

916
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: I mean, there's there are a lot of really good

917
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 4: tight ends, but I I don't know, I feel like,

918
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: I need to pause that for led.

919
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: There you go, Danny said, light the lamp for her.

920
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: There are a lot of good tight ends on there. Kincaid,

921
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: the kid from Dallas.

922
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren is. Tyler Warren is up and coming.

923
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: But Tyler Warren isn't Tray mcbridene yet in my opinion.

924
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: You know, McBride is. McBride is his own side show.

925
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: You talk about the sidelines, like just if you ever boreed,

926
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: just put an eye on Trey McBride, all right. Just

927
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: in the last two games, they're chipping him with a

928
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: defensive end. At Indianapolis, there were a couple of times

929
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: he came to the sideline. He barely made it a

930
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: thirty yard line, which is the edge of the player's box,

931
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: and he went down to a knee and put his

932
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: arm on his helmet, and all the trainers weren't over. Man,

933
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: You all right your yeah, I just need a minute.

934
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: I mean it was physical. The back of his jersey

935
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: was torn. After the game, he wasn't even wearing a shirt.

936
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: You know why because he had this massive scrape just

937
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: along his back from that turf in Indianapolis. And then

938
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: you had the game, this most recent game, and was

939
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: the first touchdown catch that wasn't that glanced off his fingertips.

940
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Man was he hot? He came to the sidelines, pounded

941
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: the bench with a pad on it, thankfully smart enough

942
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: to make sure there's a pad on that metal bench,

943
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: and he pounded that. He has a lot of a

944
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: lot of fits in him. That way he can make

945
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: ten catches on eleven targets. It's the one target he

946
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: didn't reel in that sticks with him, and he's so

947
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: mad at himself and he goes out there and then

948
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: he takes it out on the defense. And then there

949
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: are other moments where after his touchdown, he threw his

950
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: gloves up to one of the some kid five year

951
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: old in the front row. Kid dropped it. He ran

952
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: over there himself, didn't wait for like a ball boy

953
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: or something. He ran over himself and gave it to

954
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: the kid. I'm like, Trey, you got people for that.

955
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: Come on, you don't have to do that. He's just

956
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: he thoroughly enjoys playing the game, and nobody competes like Trey.

957
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: McBride is one of the players. That's when we have

958
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: a look at who they are off the field. It

959
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: almost makes me laugh because when you see him walk

960
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: around the facility, he always has a smile on his face,

961
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: like he has a very positive outlook on life. He

962
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: is always willing to sit and chat with us, even

963
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: about non football things. And then McBride gets on the

964
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: field and he's one of the nastiest players in the game,

965
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 3: and he likes to talk his fair share of trash talk.

966
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: And then you see who he is off the field,

967
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: and that's a great instance of going out of his

968
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: way to make sure that the kid in the front

969
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: row got the gloves. It's been impressive to see not

970
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: just the big picture trend that McBride has had to

971
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: get to this point, but with all this tension from defenses,

972
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: he is still reliable. He still has that big catch radius,

973
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: strong hands, refuses to go down on first contact, and

974
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: he's already got multiple receiving tight touchdowns, which was quite

975
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: a struggle last year. Didn't find the end zone until

976
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: Week sixteen seventeen last year. I like that this offense

977
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: is getting McBride more involved as they move the chains,

978
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: and then also in the red zone, and you really

979
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: need that player Without James Connor, who's going to incite

980
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: emotion from this team and make sure that they are

981
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: still in it and they're energized. And that is McBride.

982
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: What do you get your wife for National Tight Ends Day?

983
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 4: The pauly.

984
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: The same thing I got it for our anniversary. Oh dear,

985
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: just still pending. Ah, that's two B determined stuff's going on.

986
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: So all right, we had some free advice on defense.

987
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: What was our suggestion? You know, if you're gonna make

988
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: tweaks in the by maybe Bullitz mac Wilson Senior a

989
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: little bit more, you know, unleash some of his pass

990
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: rush skills a little bit more, a little bit, Trey McBride,

991
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: Can I say this for everything he's done, especially in

992
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: the end zone versus last year. You know what, we

993
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: have not seen as much this year. Yards after catch,

994
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: We haven't seen any hurdles. Our defense is doing a

995
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: better job of corralling him and rallying to the ball,

996
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: rallying to eighty five. Is it just me? He hasn't

997
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: broken as many tackles, hasn't had as much space to

998
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: work with.

999
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: You have a nice spin move on his touchdown this week.

1000
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Yes, true, So there's evidence of when he's in space,

1001
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: right the first guy never brings him down, so I

1002
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe a couple more tight end screens, you know,

1003
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: if there's a suggestion box on the offensive side of

1004
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: the ball, some more tight end screens, you know. Dare

1005
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: I say it a bubble screen. I know everyone's you know,

1006
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: sick of bubble screens and the Cardinals offense. But if

1007
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: it's going eighty five and he's got a head of steam,

1008
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: usually good things happened.

1009
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: I'd have to look at the numbers from last year,

1010
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: but the last three games I've looked, he's got twenty nine,

1011
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty eight yards after catch, which is

1012
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: which is leading the team the week prior. Okay, so

1013
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: starting in Seattle he only had twelve yards after catch,

1014
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what he was averaging last year,

1015
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: but that's probably something he wants to improve on. After

1016
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: the bye week.

1017
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: Speaking the division, there man Seahawks Niners rams all five

1018
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: and two, there was some graphic on the ESPN morning show,

1019
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: NFC North best division in NFL. Sure sure about that?

1020
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: I get it, Like when was that graphic?

1021
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was earlier today. It was after Funday night football,

1022
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, you know, I get it the

1023
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: Lions and you know, and even the Bears quarte.

1024
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 4: Last year and then it all.

1025
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: Melted away by the way. You know, you want a

1026
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: hot take? Do you know? The hot take? A couple

1027
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: of weeks ago after the Tennessee loss on CBS Sports

1028
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: I never watched CBS Sports Network, but they tweeted out

1029
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: one of those studio shows and a former player. He

1030
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: equated the Cardinals loss to the Titans the manner in

1031
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: which that happened to the fail mary by the Bears

1032
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: against Jade Daniels and the Commanders. Tyrek Stevenson, Oh.

1033
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: They really struck a chord with you there, and.

1034
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: They liken that just the shock factor of losing a

1035
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: game in that fashion and what it did to the

1036
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: rest of the year and what happened Bears lost ten

1037
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: in a row.

1038
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: I agree with that even worse, Tyrek Stevenson found himself

1039
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: on your list incompetent.

1040
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: Once we got away from that season, though, I understand

1041
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: that that was a rough, rough way to lose, and

1042
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: everybody in the moment wanted to say put them in

1043
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: a tailspin. But then we see way later that Caleb

1044
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: Williams and the coaching staff absolutely didn't connect whatsoever. And

1045
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 4: it's just me, but my guess is the losing streak

1046
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: had way more to do with a quarterback and the

1047
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 4: coaching staff not being on the same page than one

1048
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: bad loss.

1049
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Facts. I would agree with that.

1050
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 4: I mean, it's fun to talk about because that's what's

1051
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: out there in the public, but it's usually what's not

1052
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: out there in the public that actually undermines a team

1053
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: in the end.

1054
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: So would you go? Here was another question I heard

1055
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: posts Would you go with the Chiefs and the Eagles

1056
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: or would you go with the Colts and the Lions,

1057
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: meaning the old Guard and the new Guard to represent

1058
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: the AFC and NFC. If you had to go one

1059
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: way or the other, one way or the other right here,

1060
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: right now, would you go Chiefs and Eagles last year's

1061
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl combatants who are surging again, or would you

1062
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: go Colts and Lions?

1063
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: I go Colts and Lions. Change it up. With the

1064
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: exception of against the Cardinals, the Colts have been a

1065
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 3: fun team to walk.

1066
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, I think I would be more

1067
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 4: interested in seeing Colet's lines.

1068
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: It's not who you want. Who would you I think.

1069
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 4: The Chiefs and Eagles because here's I think the Chiefs

1070
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: are rounding into you know, again, this is assuming they

1071
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 4: stay healthy. I think the Chiefs are starting to look

1072
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 4: a lot like Chiefs are like three four years ago,

1073
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure who in the AFC is necessarily

1074
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: going to keep up with that when it's all said

1075
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: and done. I think the Lions are better than the

1076
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 4: Eagles right now, but I don't think it's that far away.

1077
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: And if the thing about the Eagles is what happened

1078
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: to Saquon Barkley, is it all offensive line? You know,

1079
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: we want to talk about what happened to the Cardinals

1080
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: run game. The Eagles run game has disappeared off the

1081
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: face of the earth, and tangentially off that. I thought

1082
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: i'd bring this up one of what did what everybody

1083
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: say last year about Barkley? They said they were going

1084
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 4: to he was going to take a big step back

1085
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 4: because all the touches he made. Correct Sure, Christian McCaffrey

1086
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: is on pace for four hundred and fifty touches this year.

1087
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 4: It would be like the seventh most all time history.

1088
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: And if you look at the list of the guys

1089
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: that end up having that many touches in a season

1090
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: which sekwon didn't even make that list. Every one of

1091
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: those guys like fell off the face of the earth

1092
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: almost immediately.

1093
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: After, like the Earl Campbell's of the World.

1094
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: Earl Campbell's James Wilder of the old School Buckso DeMarco.

1095
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: Murray, can I say this, by the way, those four

1096
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: teams are just named. You know what they all have

1097
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: in common, excellent offensive lines and they have go to

1098
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: generational offensive linemen that they run behind in money moments.

1099
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: Kansas City has Trey Smith the right guard. They just

1100
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: made the highest paid guard in the league. You look

1101
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: at the Eagles either, the Eagles of the Lions still

1102
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: have the best offensive line in the game, Colts probably

1103
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: top ten, and Quinn Nelson is a Hall of Fame guard.

1104
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: So when we argue about fourth and one and a

1105
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: half in the quarterback sneak, to me, it's not the

1106
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: decision to go for it. That's the NFL in twenty

1107
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: twenty five. You got to be aggressive, you don't want

1108
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: and it's not even the play call necessarily, Although when

1109
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: they ran the extra defensive lineman in there and they

1110
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: stacked the interior of the box, that was a tough

1111
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: deal to me. It's the same thing that plagued you

1112
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: at times last year. Who's the go to offensive lineman

1113
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna run it behind? Who's in Jonathan Gannon's words,

1114
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: the war daddy offensive lineman. You're gonna run behind? Even

1115
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: Week seventeen last year at the Rams. You remember earlier

1116
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: in that game, Cardinals were driving, about to take the lead.

1117
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: They get into the Rams red zone. It's fourth and one,

1118
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: we're going forward. We're here to win the game. Give

1119
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: it a James Connor stuffed dropped for a loss? Who

1120
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: are you running behind? You know Will Hernandez at the

1121
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: beginning of last year, before he got hurt, he was

1122
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: that guy. You know, if you can have that player

1123
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: to run behind. The Panthers had Rob Hunt for example, right,

1124
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: just an elite All Pro guard so to me, to me,

1125
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: that's the key part of the equation for a lot

1126
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 2: of these teams and these contenders, and especially play calls

1127
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: like that.

1128
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 4: Although and I just want to dial up finishing up

1129
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: one thing you just asked about the best division in football.

1130
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to understand how a division with three five

1131
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 4: and two teams and a two and five team that

1132
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: has lost all their games by what they've lost and

1133
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: have the minus, well, how could that not be the

1134
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: best division? Even your even the team in last place

1135
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 4: is like causing a ruckus with whoever they play.

1136
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: Two of those divisional losses for the Cardinals came by

1137
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: walk off field goals. You lost by one point.

1138
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: Just remember the e ESPN stands for East Coast Bias

1139
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: and that brings us to winning behavior. Can you display

1140
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: winning behavior? You have to consistently display winning behavior. That's

1141
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: winning behavior. You've got to define what winning behavior is

1142
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: and hold people to that standard. Yes, who am I

1143
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: to speak about winning behavior? What do I know about that?

1144
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: I just lost wise Guy again, so I can't get

1145
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: to Danny before. Want.

1146
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: I want Danny to have her moment. But I have

1147
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 4: two quickies off the off the page. Wait, I want

1148
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: to throw out their one, Sam love it winning behavior

1149
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: Arizona State. I also want to give winning behavior to

1150
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: our old teammate, Jonathan Hayward. Paul remembers Jonathan, I believe

1151
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: that was before your time, Dan. Johnny Johnny is in

1152
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: a new band suit yourself. We went and saw him

1153
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: and when you want to talk about winning behavior? And

1154
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 4: I told him this. He plays drums, does some singing.

1155
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 4: They had their first gig and watching him with a

1156
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: giant smile as he's playing it just reminds me of

1157
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: and I told him this, like, find something in your

1158
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: life that while you're doing it, you have a giant smile.

1159
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: And I'm guessing that's what happens when you're messing around

1160
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: with your cars, Paul, when they're running, when they're running, well,

1161
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 4: not your daily drivers, but but I just I want

1162
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: to shout out Johnny because he was living his best life.

1163
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: It's true, he's like the Trey McBride of drumming, always

1164
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: smile in his face.

1165
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 4: By the way, suit yourself, I like it. Okay, EP

1166
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: is available everywhere there you go?

1167
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: Nice. Okay, is there a segue to your shoe repair man?

1168
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: Because if there is, I'm incapable.

1169
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: So when I put this on the rundown, it was

1170
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: intentionally as a funny story, and it's it's not so

1171
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: funny anymore. So long story short. On Sunday, I realized

1172
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: once I got to the stadium I was accidentally given

1173
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: the wrong pair of shoes from the shoe repair man.

1174
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, this gets so much better.

1175
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're like, oh gosh, this is only me.

1176
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna do my best to consolidate this. I

1177
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: dropped off of play a pair of short, black leather,

1178
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: pointed toe booty so a heel, a little heel, like

1179
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: a little boot Okay, So thankfully the shoes I was

1180
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: wearing that weren't mine. I was at least wearing socks,

1181
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: so that's that's good and clear. I went to pick

1182
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: up my boots late last Thursday, and I didn't try

1183
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: them on when I was there. I grabbed them. I

1184
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: took them home. I tried them on with my game

1185
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: day outfit with my pants on Friday to see if

1186
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: the pants would be short enough with that extra healler

1187
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: would they be dragging the floor? And I put the

1188
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: boots on, and I had this thought of like, are

1189
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: these my shoes? And I'm like that, that's crazy, right,

1190
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: I just haven't worn them in a year because I

1191
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: wear them in the fall in the winter. And so

1192
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: then I get dressed on game day and I put

1193
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: the shoes on again, and I'm like, these feel kind

1194
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: of small, but like, what are the odds that someone

1195
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: else has my exact shoe? So I go to the

1196
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: stadium and then I'm about to put the headset on

1197
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: to go live on air for our first pregame radio show,

1198
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I know I'm driving myself crazy, but

1199
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: I think I'm right. I look through an old video

1200
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: because two or three years ago I had done like

1201
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: a day in the lifelog for the Cardinals, and I

1202
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: know that Kyle Droni had a shot of me like

1203
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: a full body and I remember the outfit I was wearing.

1204
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: So I look with Cody Fincher, one of our producers,

1205
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: and you can see on the still frame the way

1206
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm standing. My shoe has a silver zipper on the

1207
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 3: inside of the foot. And I look down and the

1208
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 3: shoe that I'm wearing has a black zipper on the heel.

1209
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: So this is like CSI shoe repair at this point.

1210
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: And then I sit down, I put the headset on it.

1211
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: I go, I'm wearing someone else's shoes. So then it

1212
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: just it was a long day because my shoes are

1213
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: like six and a half and I was in size

1214
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: fives for ten hours. Like two days later, I'm not exaugering.

1215
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: My feet are still sore. My toes were like curled.

1216
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: We sit down for bostgame press conferences and I sit

1217
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: next to Dare and I can't feel my toes.

1218
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 4: So she was in bad place people.

1219
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: She went to defensive quairer Nick Rawls said, I lost

1220
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: a shoe.

1221
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, So the shoe repair is closed Sunday and Monday.

1222
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: So I kept trying to call in and there wasn't

1223
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: a way to leave a voicemail. And I sent an

1224
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: email because they have like a contact us page on

1225
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 3: the website. So I try to reach out. I'm thinking,

1226
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: this is this is a crazy story. Well this is

1227
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: where this is unfortunately where the story is no longer

1228
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: so funny boy. So I called the shoe repair Tuesday.

1229
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: Always give me.

1230
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: This is a this is a small local business. So

1231
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to share the name and put them

1232
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: on blast and ruin somebody's life. That's not my intention.

1233
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: So I called Tuesday and I say, hey, you know,

1234
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: I tried to reach out. I was given the wrong shoes.

1235
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: Are you able to see if you have mine? And

1236
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: he's like I haven't found them, Like, well look when

1237
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: you come later today, and I'm like, I don't want

1238
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 3: to wait till after work. So during my lunch break

1239
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: on Tuesday before we filmed this, Darren in hindsight claim

1240
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: that I went to do this during my lunch break

1241
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: so that I had content for the podcast. So I

1242
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: go to the shoe repair.

1243
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: This is its own podcast, by the way.

1244
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. This is a long story. So pretty much,

1245
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: he doesn't have my shoes. I'll save you the trouble.

1246
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 3: He was incredibly rude and disrespectful. He put the blame

1247
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: on me that he didn't tag my shoes, which means

1248
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: he gave my shoes to someone else. I brought the

1249
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: shoes back because they're not mine and they don't fit.

1250
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: Let's get the money quote. That's what the podcast is for.

1251
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 4: You didn't say who it was, you can still give

1252
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 4: the money quote.

1253
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: So he was looking through the bins for my shoes,

1254
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: and he was saying, if you want to complain about

1255
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: the job we do or the customer service, like people

1256
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: are happy, and I was like, I don't think you

1257
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: do a bad job. I just want my shoes. He's

1258
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 3: looking through the bins. He goes, well, I can't do

1259
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: anything for customers out of mental problems. Excuse you.

1260
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: That's right.

1261
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: So long story is still long, but I'll make it short.

1262
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: He doesn't have my shoes. He was incredibly rude to

1263
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: me until another customer walked in, and that was the

1264
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: first moment he apologized for his mistake. I mean, like

1265
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: I told him it wasn't my size and I had

1266
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: to pick up a second pair of shoes, and he

1267
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: didn't believe me. He grabbed the soles of my shoe

1268
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: and the other shoe and put him together. And then

1269
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: he was silent because my shoes were six and a

1270
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: half and I was wearing fives and he was trying

1271
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: to blame me. So when the other customer walked in,

1272
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: he apologized and said to give him three days to

1273
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 3: see if someone returns it. But I'm not going to

1274
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: leave without cash or check. And here's the best part,

1275
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: which tells you everything you need to know. He says

1276
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 3: to me, if I find another pair of shoes that's

1277
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: similar in your size, will you just take those? So again,

1278
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to

1279
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: ruin someone's life who has a small business. If you want,

1280
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 3: you to message me and I can tell you where

1281
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: not to go. But I have a feeling I will

1282
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 3: not be getting my shoes back.

1283
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: So we're saying that's not winning behavior.

1284
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: Not winning behavior.

1285
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: I feel like we should finish.

1286
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm Sorry, that was a really long That was sorry,

1287
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: but we needed to know the details.

1288
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So it.

1289
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: Was a funny, like unbelievable story. Now it's not so

1290
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 3: funny anymore.

1291
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: Well, the mental problem that was funny. Yes, okay, I

1292
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: mean not.

1293
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 4: To Danny, you know.

1294
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, So if we want winning behavior, are we

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Speaker 2: talking about I picks in week seven? Is that what

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Speaker 2: we're doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, that was solid segue Paul. It's almost like

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Speaker 4: you've done this before. Paul went eleven and three this week.

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Speaker 2: About that?

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Speaker 3: Give me the back to third play.

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Speaker 4: He is pulled within one game of myself. I went

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Speaker 4: ten and four, thank god, because I've been really sucking.

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Speaker 4: Danny went eating six.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you what my problem was. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: didn't trust my gut. So last year Aaron Rodgers screwed

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Speaker 3: me over every time I chose him with the New

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Speaker 3: York Jets. And I think to myself.

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Speaker 2: If there's a game, now you sound like the shoe

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Speaker 2: repair guy. You're blaming other people.

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Speaker 3: If there's a game where I'm gonna go against what

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Speaker 3: I always do, it's the Browns and the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's Joe Flacco and the Browns. Right wrong? So I

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Speaker 3: went with the Steelers. And let this be a reminder

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Speaker 3: to myself and a listen to all. Please take my

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Speaker 3: isocam men, never change. I cannot trust Aaron Rodgers, so

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Speaker 3: that's my own fault.

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Speaker 4: So overall, I am sixty five and thirty five. I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna blow right past that comment. Sixty four and

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Speaker 4: thirty six. For Paul and Danny, it's sixty two and

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Speaker 4: thirty eight. This is still a tight race, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Men never change, you know what. I own that comment

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Speaker 2: because I still won't take the Seahawks for the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers. In any of my picks. I refuse to believe,

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Speaker 2: and I paid the price. Two of my three losses

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Speaker 2: were in the division, So I think I need to

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Speaker 2: start believing a little bit more in our NFC West neighbors.

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Speaker 4: I'm just hoping Danny can find a good pair of

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Speaker 4: shoes this weekend for her.

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Speaker 2: Buy, and if not, we'll have to check the depth

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Speaker 2: chart in case, you know, she loses a shoe, her

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Speaker 2: shoe depth chart. That's right there, we go. That'll do

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Speaker 2: it for Cardinals Underground. I think that was Underground Extra today.

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