1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: M hm. Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddy. I'm your 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: humble host today, especially your humble host. And you'll find 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: out why because I have a very special guest, someone 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: who this would have never happened had we not had 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: a mutual friend. So let's start the show. Welcome to 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: Wrestling with Freddy. Now stepping up to the mic, the 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: host of Wrestling with Freddie, Freddie Prince Tune Yeah. Former 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: w w E champion m J Pendece, Welcome to the show. 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: How are you? Holy crap, I haven't seen you in forever. 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: What the hell is going on? Oh my gosh, thank 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: you for having me. It's such a strange way the 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: universe has has brought us together again. Uh, I don't know, 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: do you remember at all? Like I was a baby 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: when you were you were a so so let me 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: break this down. I did a movie for Netflix with 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Amy Garcia, who people might know from from Lucifer, and 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: you should all bow down in her presence whenever you 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: you meet her. Don't even shake her hand, just bow 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: because she is. She didn't just earn my respect, man, 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: that girl earned my love. Like if she was ever 21 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: in trouble, I would get her a jet to a 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: non extradition country and a hunter grand in less than 23 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: an hour. Like, that's that's how how dog I would 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: roll for her. So she mentioned to me randomly that 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: her writing partner used to wrestle, and I went, wait, 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: who who's your I said, I used to work there. 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Who's your writing partner? And she said your name? And 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: my jaw hit the floor because I still have this 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: memory in my head. I don't know why, but you 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: came to like what was like an acting workshop that 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: we would do where all the wrestlers would take scenes 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: or do acting exercise is and you did one about Pokemon. 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: What this dude? That's wrestling in Japan now? And I 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: remember being like, what the hell? What the hell is 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: a Pokemon? Like I didn't know what I didn't know 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: what it was. So I was sitting there trying to 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: like analyze it, and the whole time, like when you 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: were done, I think I asked Cardona. I was like, Hey, 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: what what the hell is a Pokemon? And he was like, 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: what's the matter with you? And I was like oh, 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: and then it all made sense. But do you remember 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: this at all? Are am I crazy? Oh? My god, 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: it's coming back to me, um, you were. I'm telling 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: you you were, so I don't know how old you 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: were when when they brought you up. How old were you? 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I mean I think they 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: got signed when I was like twenty one or something 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: like that. It looked like you were seventeen. I mean, 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: it looked like it was illegal for you to work 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: there because of child labor laws. It was insane. But yeah, 51 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: I definitely. I remember A big issue was that, like, 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: no one would believe I was a woman, and so 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: throw all of the makeup you can onto this. You 54 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: pulled like this evil kind of smile and this evil 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: little you would narrow your eyes a bit, and that 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: made you look much more grown up. It was a 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: real smart move that you did. But you kind of 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: had a meteoric rise you. I mean it just from 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: I mean you're there and they're trying to figure out 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: what to do. But once they did, and I know 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: the person very well who came up with with your story. 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: He wasn't on the road, but he conceptualized it in 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: the office. But once it was that one episode you 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: just kind of like took off. How do you process 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: that at twenty two? I'll put it to you this way. 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: My pops was twenty two. He couldn't handle it, and 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: he literally like turned to drugs and ended up killing 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: himself because a twenty two early twenties that's a ton 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: to deal with. And they put a rocket ship underneath 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: you and just launched you off. What talk to me 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: about how you felt there and all that? Gosh. I mean, 72 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I guess it was really helpful that I had grown 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: up so rough and I survived so much before I 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: ever got there, that anything that happened it was like 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: sprinkles on top of a Sunday of just surviving life. Uh. 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: And so I really always took everything with a grain 77 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: of salt and realized that it could be, you know, 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: living on the street. I could be dead from all 79 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: the decisions I've made before. Wrestling really saved my life. 80 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: You know. I I tell my story a lot, but 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: the the Cliff Knows version is I grew up insanely poor. 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: I was homeless for most of my childhood. Was lucky 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: to make it out alive, and wrestling and storytelling and 84 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: just living in this these fantasy world saved my life. 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: So I always kind of had that perspective that this 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: was an opportunity that I was just gonna have fun with. 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: And I really think it is a hundred well I 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: say a hundred percent, but I have to give myself 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of credit. So let me say so 90 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot out of a credit goes to the fans 91 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: because it just spoke to me being successful, spoke to 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: what they wanted to see. And they really were fighting 93 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: for this movement of just someone on screen that represented them. 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: And I was the first that really was not this 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: picture perfect, you know, supermodel. And I wasn't a big, 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: strong warrior either. I was just like a scrappy little 97 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: mouse that looked like she was twelve and was them. 98 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: I was a fan that snuck in And I think 99 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: just that idea of feeling represented and seen. Um, I mean, 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: that's what made me want to tell stories, and that 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: what's what made me want to wrestle in the first place. 102 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: That resonated with with this generation of fans, and so 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: their love of me and championing me and my journey 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: kept me in the storylines. And uh so I owe 105 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: them so much of the It's it's funny because and 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: you talk about growing up and how rough it was 107 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: in your book um, what's the name of your book again? 108 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: It's called Crazy is my Superpower? Please go to Amazon 109 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: or wherever you buy your books and look that up 110 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: and you can learn exactly what this woman went through 111 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: as a child. You know, it's weird because you still 112 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: look so young, but you are an old soul, and 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: kids that have to grow up more quickly tend to 114 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: go back and embrace that childhood when they get older 115 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: and start to have success. My my friend McCauley is 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: one who never had a childhood, right. He was a 117 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: working professional from age birth until he till he finally stopped, 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: and so he never got to do any of that 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: stuff that you got to do as a kid and 120 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: then as an adult win and went into that. So 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: when when you have that kind of and I see 122 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: you doing that now. But what I wanted to get 123 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: to is you have this old soul because when you 124 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: talk about why you loved it, I've heard eyes like 125 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: Terry Funk say that almost word for word what you 126 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: just said. And I know you're not like a Terry 127 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: Funk historian, and and taking a quote and like mishmashing 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: it into your own. That's just you talking. But you 129 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: have this very sort of old school and I and 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I guess it is from growing up. But you've been 131 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: able to apply discipline in a way that very few 132 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: artists can, because most artists are right brained and they 133 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: reject everything the left brain has to offer, which is 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: order out of chaos. Um. And I'm guilty of that, 135 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of artists are. And I I know 136 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: a ton of people want us to talk wrestling, but 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: you made this transition from professional wrestling into writing a 138 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller and then transition from that into 139 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: the art of screenwriting, which is incredibly difficult. Everyone's written 140 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: a script, but none of them are good. Right, there's 141 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: only a small handful that that can impact the right 142 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: person that says yes in order to get it made. 143 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: And now you've done that. I don't think another wrestler 144 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: has ever done that. I don't know if they've wanted to. 145 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: But you've now transitioned into Hollywood and screenwriting. You have 146 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: a movie that recently wrapped. Do you want to talk 147 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: about that or I just I just get off on 148 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: the process. So what whatever you want to talk about 149 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: is fine with me. But this is an incredibly impressive accomplishment. 150 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: Whether you're coming from wrestling or not, and you're still 151 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: having to apply a similar but completely different discipline to it. 152 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: So I'll shut up and just let you talk about 153 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: whatever you want to talk about. This this movie which 154 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: I've seen like video rehearsals of the stunt fights and stuff, 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: and that was so sick. But anyway, I'm gonna I'm 156 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: not go ahead. I did. I think you're right. It 157 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: is so the same kind of discipline, right. I think 158 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: what really helped me was just the perspective of like 159 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: I was grateful to have food in my fridge, Like 160 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: that was my baseline. If I could just have a 161 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: career and I could feed myself and you know, send 162 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: money to my parents, Like life was good. That's all 163 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I needed. And I felt such a like end of 164 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: a chapter when when that when that chapter ended, it 165 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: felt like I was so whole. And what I knew 166 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: I could take into the next chapter was these fans 167 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: and that we really had this mission of representation um 168 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: and I just needed to figure out what that was. 169 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: And so the book was the first try I wrote. 170 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: I wrote crazy as my superpower, and I don't want 171 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: to get my story out there because I had felt 172 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: that I hadn't really told people where I came from 173 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: and how hard I struggled and my mental health journey. 174 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: And I wanted to be really transparent about up because 175 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: these people had supported me for so long. And what 176 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: I noticed from that was that these these these fans 177 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: really just believed in seeing a different perspective and seeing 178 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: a different kind of hero in the world. You know, 179 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I did not see women 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: who looked like me on TV. I never saw any 181 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: woman the last name Mendez. I never you know, she 182 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: had brown hair. I could be like, okay, close enough, 183 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: by the way, there's still only maybe two but we're trying, 184 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: and so like, you know, to me, there was a 185 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: point when I realized, oh, if I want to see 186 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: characters like me on TV, I'm just gonna have to 187 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: be that character. And that was wrestling, and then after 188 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: that it was Okay, it's not just good enough, it's 189 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: just if it's just me. I need to create more 190 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: characters for the next generation. And so that's how I 191 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: started writing UM. I had gone to six months of 192 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: film school. N y U, that's good. Yeah, I got 193 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: some experience. I couldn't afford it. UM, But I started 194 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: wrestling when that didn't work out, So everything kind of 195 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: felt really serendipitous, and I took this circuitous route to 196 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: get back into writing UM and it was just all 197 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: about like representing this, this type of of this just unseen, 198 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: underrepresented character UM. I started in comics and with Amy 199 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: we did Glow and we did Dungeons and Dragons and 200 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: Wonder Woman, and then we really just started to dapple 201 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: in writing for television and screenwriting. The first thing I 202 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: did was I entered I started at the bottom, like 203 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: going from wrestling and being like, oh, I'm this champion, 204 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I had such a perspective of like 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: everywhere I go, I need to like hustle and just 206 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: like and like I have no ego, and like that 207 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: has been what really served me in wrestling. I knew 208 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: I had to start from the bottom of the barrel. 209 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: I started wrestling for like I would get paid into 210 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: like hot dogs and like bus fare and then and 211 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 1: I knew I had no ego about I was just 212 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: going to work my way to the top. And so 213 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: when I started writing, it was the same thing. I 214 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: entered a writing competition UM and in one and I 215 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: got on the blacklist slatin x TV List and like 216 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that opened the door and that is what introduced me 217 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: to a lot of people, and I started taking meetings 218 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: and um, that's been a really productive tool for screenwriters. 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I know a couple other writers who have literally gotten 220 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: careers because of that tool. Yeah, and you know what, 221 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: even like the the exposure was amazing, but there's also 222 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: a thing where like they people just give you feedback 223 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: if you asked through that, but through the black the Blacklist, 224 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: and so just like even every meeting, people give me 225 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: feedback and what I can make it better, how I 226 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: can make the script better, or what they connected to it. 227 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: I really saw that there was like a space um 228 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: that just needed to be filled, and so Amy and 229 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: I just started this production company and started taking open writing, 230 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: open writing assignments, and that's how we ended up writing uh, 231 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Blade of the forty seven rown in, which is going 232 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: to be on Netflix next year. It is it was 233 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: this idea for a project that they had and Amy 234 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: and I were everything we do, it's like just just 235 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: go ball to the wall. Um, do it a hundred 236 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: percent your vision and it's either gonna work or you're 237 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: gonna fail miserably. But at least you don't. You know, 238 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: you didn't, you know, you left everything all on the field. 239 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: And that's what was with wrestling, like I'm either gonna 240 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: get fired by playing this little like nerd chick tom Boy, 241 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: or it's gonna work. And it worked. So the same 242 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: thing kind of worked with writing, and we pitched this 243 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: all female version of what they wanted to do. I 244 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: was like, no, it's all about the women, like they're 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: the stars. It's inclusive, it's it's very diverse, and you know, 246 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: we were scared, like okay, that was okay. That by 247 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: the way, there's actually like Japanese history to support that, 248 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of like the women in the farms 249 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: trained with the spear to learn how to fight, and 250 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: they could hide the spear as a as like a 251 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: garden tool, and that was how they were able to 252 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, train their weapons and keep them hidden in 253 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: plain sight. So there's actually like evidence of this in existence, 254 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: to which I love. And then so it's actually like 255 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: it's even though it's a fantasy, fantastic movie and there's 256 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: powers and people are doing things with swords that with 257 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: a wire is a lot easier to do, it still 258 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: has like that one route that one seed of truth, 259 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: which all those movies kind of need. Yeah, definitely the 260 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Ona bu Geisha, Like they are fascinating, and so we 261 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: really wanted to lean into that through that the wall 262 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: and actually worked, and these wonderful producers and studio gave 263 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: us a chance and gave us our first shot. You know. 264 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: It just kind of took off from there, and and 265 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: it's really interesting how like one thing always leads to 266 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: the next, you know, like a certain meeting you need 267 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: a writing sample of hour long drama, and it's like, 268 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: we don't have it. Let's let's get it done in 269 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: a month. Done. Uh, And all of a sudden, we're 270 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: now in the you know, in the race for our 271 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: long dramas and and so stuff is just kind of 272 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: snowballed in a really wonderful way. And we just got 273 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: hired for our second feature. Yeah. So it's like, and 274 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: we're developing, can you can you can you mention again 275 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: or is it too early? I can't yet. I'll tell 276 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: you later. Yeah, And we're developing on two TV shows 277 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: and so, oh my gosh, man, that's so insanely great. 278 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing. It's the cool thing the world. 279 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: And I think it only works because I I don't know. 280 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: I know that like nothing can kill me. Like I've 281 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: lived on the street, I've like starved. I know I 282 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: can survive that, and so if I have to go 283 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: back to it, I can go back to it. So 284 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: now just have this like burn the boat's mentality though 285 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: it's so hardcore, you know what I mean, It's like 286 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: there is no I remember. But they asked Sugar Ray 287 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Leonard back in the in the seventies, he was a 288 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: boxing world champion and they said, uh, what do you 289 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: plan on doing if you lose this fight? Like what's 290 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: an expert you? And He's just like, I don't, that's 291 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: not an option, Like I I never even thought about 292 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: that until you just said it, Like I don't. I 293 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: don't train to lose, man, I trained to win. And 294 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: you just kind of push your cards all in or 295 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: your chips all in, and you're like, look, if you 296 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: think you have a better hand, cool, but I'm not 297 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: telling you my cards until you pay you fold. And 298 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: like you said, you went in with a nerd gimmick 299 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: that you're just like, if it's I got to seven, 300 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: if they call I'm in big trouble. But if they fold, 301 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm good, and they did. They blinked and you didn't, 302 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: and it helped get that character over. Apparently it's helped 303 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: you guys. You add Amy kicks serious ass. And I 304 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: want to segue, you're talking television and we're talking wrestling, 305 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: So I have to I have to babble a little 306 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: bit again, um to get into this, because where I failed, 307 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: you have succeeded. And I really want to talk to 308 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: you more about this because I just want to pick 309 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: your brain and get schooled. But everyone else should here too. 310 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: So about a year ago, I guess this was during 311 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: the pandemic, a couple of friends approached me and talked 312 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: to me about Wow, Women of Wrestling, and they said, hey, man, 313 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: would you be interested in trying to help get this 314 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: made on TV in one way shape or for me 315 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: to write an EP or whatever. And I said, yeah, 316 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: I love wrestling and I love women's wrestling. And I said, 317 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I think women's wrestling is is really at a high 318 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: point right now, and they should get an opportunity. So 319 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: I talked with David McClain, and he and I didn't 320 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: exactly click, but we had respect for one another, but 321 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: we certainly didn't click, and Genie Buss, owner of the Lakers, 322 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Go Lakers. We went to what I knew to be 323 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: friendly ex ecutives, where I knew the executives, where I 324 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: knew they would give this the idea chance. And it 325 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: was a brick wall, another brick wall, and another brick wall, 326 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: and there might have been a fourth brick wall in there, 327 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I hit my head so many times 328 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: I could not get this idea over to a single 329 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: executive forget you know, you know, I got one in 330 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: the room, but it was a room of three. I 331 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: couldn't get it over to anyone. And I'm just like randomly, 332 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, checking out the news. Dada da da da, 333 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: and then I just see your name and I see wow, 334 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: and I go, oh my god, they're gonna be on TV. 335 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're gonna be on TV. And I 336 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: flipped out in the best possible way. So could you 337 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: please talk. I have no ego about this. I just 338 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: want as many wrestlers as possible to have as many 339 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: opportunities on television as humanly possible. So that's my stake 340 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: in this game, right, So how did you come? I 341 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: guess maybe the glow connection, but what was the process 342 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: of getting the viacom D and forget everyone else listening, 343 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: this is just you and school me up. I've got 344 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: to give all that credit to to Genie and David. 345 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I was brought on at the end of that, so 346 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: they really did all the hustling and and figured out 347 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: the right home. She's an amazing woman, isn't she. She's 348 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: a force of nature. And oh, what I've understood is 349 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: that she you know, those brick walls continued, and she 350 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: just really believed in this. And what I so appreciate 351 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: about her vision is that she wants it to be 352 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: a family friendly show that like everyone can sit down 353 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: and watch it on Saturday morning. And that is such 354 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: an old school vibe that I connected to because you're 355 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: an old soul, You're Terry funk. I just you know, 356 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: I remember being really little and the only posters they 357 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: had of the female wrestlers were in bikini's and like 358 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: the magazines, and I was like putting a bikini poster 359 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: up on my wall. Um So, just the idea of 360 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: like giving a younger generation, um this this sort of 361 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: like wholesome superhero type lean. That's what their characters lean 362 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: into is that superhero vibe. They all kind of have 363 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: an archetype character, which I really really liked as well. 364 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Genie for a second, because I love 365 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: talking about how people made it, and I love bringing 366 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: on people that it's so it feels so disrespectful to 367 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: say I'm proud of you, right, that just feels disrespectful. 368 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm so impressed by you and by so many of 369 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: your period that I've had other wrestlers on here. I've 370 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: had the miss on here who just I look, you 371 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: talk about a force of nature, like like, I've had 372 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: other wrestlers on here. But Jennie was such an interesting person. 373 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: She wanted she wanted me to make a puppet show. Okay, 374 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: and I love puppets all right, Like I loved my 375 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: uncle wrote the Rainbow Connection for for Kermit the Frog. 376 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: My uncle's Paul Williams, so like I got to play 377 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: with the first Kermit the Frog. I love muppets, and 378 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: and we had a friend in comment and so we 379 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: were gonna come up with it. I can talk about 380 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: it now because it's never gonna happen. It was called 381 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: Little Lakers, and it was all these like it was 382 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: like Little Kobe, Little Shack, all these and they all 383 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: had like attitude, right, And so I was talking to 384 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: her about Saneca, So where are you seeing this? Like 385 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: you just want to put on like spectrum or something 386 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: like that, and she goes, you're not thinking big enough. 387 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: And right when she said that, every sentence she said after, 388 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I've never forgotten like any and I delete things people 389 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: say to me all the time, good advice and bad. 390 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: But she has this ability to think big. Even when 391 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: you think your idea is too big and you're nervous 392 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: to pitch it, it's like it's not big enough. I 393 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: think you have a woman behind you and behind this 394 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: company that when she commits to something, she is committed 395 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: to it. And she's been involved with while for a 396 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: while now. So for her to make that commitment with 397 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: you and to have that trust in you. And again 398 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: I was the wrong fit. You are the right fit. 399 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: I think you have a huge opportunity here to bring 400 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: more wrestling to that. And it's not about competing. I 401 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: hate it's always about competent. That's so stupid, man, there's 402 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: so many channels. It should be about opportunity, right. There 403 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be an Academy Award Actors should be family. Like 404 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: there's no real wrestling award. They're slammies, but those aren't real, 405 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Like wrestlers are a family. So this should be you know, 406 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: it should always be about opportunity. And I love that 407 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: you're working with with someone who I she has earned respect. 408 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: It's not about between thousand championships. I don't I love 409 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: the Lakers, but that's not as important. She has earned respect, Okay, 410 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: in a world where no one wanted to respect her. 411 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: She was Jerry Buss's daughter. What did she ever work for? 412 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: What did she is? Like Stephanie McMahon, you know, all 413 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: she ever had to be with Vince McMahon's daughter, and 414 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I'd be like, dude, she's saved the Jeff Hardy Championship promo. 415 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: She single handedly saved it. When the power went out, 416 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: ran in and it was like, excuse my language, and 417 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: said fuck that we're fixing this. I was already like, 418 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do. She's like I do, 419 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: and I mean just steamrolled through man. So it's like, 420 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: those are moments where respect is earned, and Jeannie has 421 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: earned that respect, and so when she gives it to 422 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: someone like you, and it's not like me starting to 423 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: appreciate that I already know YouTube based on how you 424 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: came up. I just I'm so excited to see what 425 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: your plan is. I mean even beyond creatively, like you 426 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: can even improve the work there. You can help prevent 427 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: injuries there, just because you know how to work the 428 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: perfect way, you know what I mean. Like, and you're 429 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: the same size as some of those girls too, you 430 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, and I love that you're 431 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: out here in l A doing it. Can you talk 432 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: about do you guys have a plan on where you're 433 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: gonna shoot yet? What's the plan for you guys? So 434 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: we'll actually be shooting pretty soon. I think we're maybe 435 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: sixty days out. Um, so it's getting it's getting kind 436 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: of close. Um, we're gonna be in syndication in the 437 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: fall of two. Please check w O w E dot 438 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: com for your local listings. Still I still have my 439 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: T shirt. I'll rock my shirt. It's also on the 440 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: seed w Seed app and the Pluto app. But um, 441 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: you know it's it's really what inspired me to join 442 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: WOW was the idea that it was women behind the 443 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: scenes in every capacity and women in front of the 444 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: camera and every capacity, and to me. I love wrestling, 445 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: and I never stopped lovest loving wrestling. Um, and this 446 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: was like the perfect way to rejoined the world of wrestling, 447 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: but also combined it with what I'm doing now and 448 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: what I have a passion for now. And so I'll 449 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: be executive producer alongside Jeanie and David McClane, which is mine. 450 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm so happy, Oh my gosh. And then I when 451 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: I talk to her on the phone, you know, um, 452 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: she really just kind of laid it out there, like 453 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: what she wants us to be and what the vision 454 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: is and um, and then also left a lot of 455 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: space for what I wanted to be or what I 456 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: could bring to the table. And I really, yeah, I 457 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: just I think that that's the right way to start something. 458 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: It's you know, we know that people know that the 459 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: product is or if they know what it was before, 460 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: but this is going to be a new beast, and UM, 461 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: we're really excited about that, and it's it's it's a 462 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: great group of women. UM. And I somewhere along the 463 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: way just kind of got inspired to say, Okay, I'm 464 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: also gonna do color commentary. I knew it. I knew 465 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: I was actually were going to ask you. I was like, 466 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: I gotta do something. I can't. You gotta kid, you 467 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: can't do them like that, You can't do the people 468 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: like that. Oh my gosh. I mean, you know, like 469 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: wrestling opportunities have popped up over the years, and I've 470 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: just never been ready for that. Um I'm not sure 471 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: like physically if that's something that like is the fires there, 472 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: but the art of it it's always been there, you know. 473 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: And when I was a fan, the women were my 474 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: favorite part of the show, and I would, you know, 475 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: skip the guy's matches to watch the ladies. And so 476 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I had such a crush on sensational Sherry, Oh my god, 477 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: like everyone else like pulled for Elizabeth and I literally 478 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: like what what, Oh my god, Oh god, never know 479 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: share Like I was such a Sherry Mark. Like when 480 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: everyone went trip Stratus, I went lead to I was like, oh, 481 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: oh day, lead all day. I like the tougher chicks. 482 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I always like tough chicks. Man. I married Buffy the Vampires. 483 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: I like tough chicks. Man, Oh my god, I love that. 484 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: My husband's is the same thing about Sherry and Elizabeth. 485 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: It was all about ship because she was she could 486 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: talk to man like and she could really work, she 487 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: could actually like wrestle that w W have didn't really 488 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: let her wrestle, but she was actually really good wrestler 489 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: before she got there. Um, and they just limited what 490 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: what women can do as you had to deal with 491 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: when you were there. I'm sure they said certain moves 492 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: you weren't allowed to do. Oh yeah they were. I 493 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: mean I talked about in my book a little bit, 494 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: but they you know, it was it was the time 495 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: when we had very small windows of matt tive minutes 496 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: and and a minute each for your walk in and 497 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: so it's really a three minute match telling story. Ang yep, yep, 498 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: And I'm oh my god. My favorite match ever is 499 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: when they told us to go home and we were 500 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: like nope, and we just went like twelve extra minutes 501 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: and like I got in trouble. But then they were like, 502 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: but it was a good it was a good match, 503 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: and I gave you a seat. Sometimes you gotta just 504 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: burn the boats and if you get if you take 505 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: the heat, you take the heat. But a lot of 506 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: times someone in a in a position of power, if 507 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: you know you can do it, and you're willing to 508 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: take that shot and prove them wrong, or be proven 509 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: wrong yourself. That's how you get, that's how you are 510 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: in respect, big time, big time you are. You are 511 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: going to absolutely kill it. My daughter is twelve years old. 512 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: She loves women's wrestling. I can't wait for her to 513 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: watch Wow. She already watches w W E. She watched 514 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: she followed Ruby over to a e W because she 515 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: likes Ruby a lot. So I can't wait to share 516 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: your contribution to that product. And uh, and yeah, I 517 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: just thank you so much for doing this. I haven't 518 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: seen you in fifteen plus years probably, and you're kicking 519 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: so much as and it's so awesome and I'd love you, 520 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Amy Garcia for making this happen. And yeah, I'll get 521 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: you a jet in a non extradition country to a 522 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: j So Andy, if you, if you and your man 523 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: ever need to, you know, rabbit can get away with it. 524 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: Just called me up. I really appreciate that. And when 525 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: I call you, you're back back those words up, you know. Yeah, 526 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think I just implicated myself. So I 527 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: may have to go to a not execution as well, 528 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: but you know we'll party. Oh my gosh, I appreciate 529 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: this has been amazing. It's so cool to see you 530 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: still loving wrestling, and I just you were such a 531 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: huge part of making us feel comfortable, um when I 532 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: just start on the road, and you were a friendly 533 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: face and your kind and really gave us a lot 534 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: of confidence. Not to say thank you for that. Yeah 535 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: it needed a little balance that company. I'm all for 536 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: tough love, but I'm like, yeah, they never heard about 537 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee like you gotta have a little bit of both. Then, 538 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you everyone for listening. Follow 539 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: this woman wherever she goes. She has the right focus, 540 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: she has the right imagination, and she's an absolute steam roller, 541 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: the smallest steam roller on earth, but it's still still 542 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: squash you. Thank you everybody. This has been a production 543 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: of I Hearts Michael podcast Network. For more podcasts for 544 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 545 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. H m 546 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: h m hmmm.