Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
Speaker 2: they call me Ben.
Speaker 3: We're joined with our guest super producer Max the freight
Speaker 3: Train Williams. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.
Speaker 3: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 3: We're only happy when it rains, and we're calling it folks.
Speaker 3: We decided, yeah, we're calling it complicated. We decided off
Speaker 3: air that it's time for a break from the gloom
Speaker 3: and doom of recent yet crucial episodes. Did you guys
Speaker 3: catch some of the awesome storms over the weekend. We
Speaker 3: were going to record this on a Friday, it's stormed
Speaker 3: on a Thursday, but the weekend really came through with
Speaker 3: some epic nature.
Speaker 4: Seriously, like the kind of stuff that knocks things over.
Speaker 2: Let's just say, yeah, it's nothing compared to Beryl, which
Speaker 2: everybody you know in Mexico and Texas and a bunch
Speaker 2: of other places in the Caribbean got slammed with. But
Speaker 2: the lightning and thunder was intense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hurricane barrel. Yeah, as we get into this,
Speaker 3: I'm immensely interested. I don't think we've ever talked about
Speaker 3: this explicitly with each other on air, But would you
Speaker 3: guys describe yourselves as more rainy day people or more
Speaker 3: sunny day at the beach type dudes?
Speaker 2: Thunderstorm on the beach is like my coach's amazing well
Speaker 2: on the Okay, I guess so maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: but yeah, sure there could be an opportunity where that
Speaker 2: might be cool. I could see Previson saying I'm in
Speaker 2: a place that is safe, right ish at least from
Speaker 2: the lightning, as long as I get to see it, and.
Speaker 3: Watching watching from a cool patio, which protective stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not dipping your toes while holding a lightning rod.
Speaker 3: No, no, we we we already know a Ben who
Speaker 3: did that experiment or something like you.
Speaker 4: Know which Ben it is this shall not be named.
Speaker 4: I do. I like a stormy evening. I like watching
Speaker 4: it from a protected porch. But man, the other night
Speaker 4: I was doing that very thing and it got a
Speaker 4: little like, okay, you better go on inside before we
Speaker 4: get you know, sucked right off of this porch up
Speaker 4: in the Never Never landed Oz. Which one is it
Speaker 4: that the weather takes you to? Yeah, I think it's awesome.
Speaker 4: It's Oz. Yes.
Speaker 3: Uh. And you know whose world is it? The world
Speaker 3: is yours, as Nas would say, everybody gets their own
Speaker 3: personal weather preferences. Uh. You know. I was on the
Speaker 3: road recently and had that exact moment that Matt is describing.
Speaker 3: There's nothing quite as I was watching the violent poetry
Speaker 3: of nature. And I think all of us are old
Speaker 3: enough to remember when talking about the weather was like
Speaker 3: this social dog whistle for a boring conversation, for small talk.
Speaker 4: I like to make my regular dad joke when I
Speaker 4: picked the kid up and I say, hey, hot enough
Speaker 4: out there for you. It's just you know, because I'm
Speaker 4: at Dad.
Speaker 2: This happened. I was outside playing my son just earlier
Speaker 2: today and it was beginning to get super hot, and
Speaker 2: my neighbor walked. I watched her walk out of her
Speaker 2: house and to go to the other house across the
Speaker 2: street where her sister lives, and she just said, sure,
Speaker 2: is hot out here. I was like, yes, it is
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of that episode where Dennis and Mack
Speaker 3: moved to the suburbs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a.
Speaker 4: Storm, Wally, a storm unrelated you guys. Matt in particular,
Speaker 4: I saw the Instagram algorithm served me up the SNL
Speaker 4: clip where Christopher walk In plays Ernold Langish and I
Speaker 4: thought you made that up entirely. I thought that was
Speaker 4: your bit, and I felt betrayed. No, man, it was
Speaker 4: very good. No, I think I knew you were lifting
Speaker 4: it from us and now, but it was very They
Speaker 4: really go on with that bit. Is that what they
Speaker 4: call like a shaggy dog bit where it just keeps going,
Speaker 4: grinding it into the ground a bit.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of Bob Odenkirk's excellent textbook on how
Speaker 3: humor works. And you have this sort of algorithm where
Speaker 3: a joke becomes unfunny and you push through the nader
Speaker 3: of an audience appeal and it reaches a higher apex.
Speaker 3: It's froller history. I mean it also now it seems,
Speaker 3: though increasingly chaotic to talk about the weather. Let's be honest.
Speaker 3: You know, the science has proven each summer is largely
Speaker 3: becoming hotter than the last. Normal weather patterns are becoming
Speaker 3: more unpredictable. Even the old school classics like El Nino
Speaker 3: In tonight's episode, we decided to do something a little different.
Speaker 3: We're looking into some old school kind of paranormal activity
Speaker 3: or extraordinary events. We're looking at weather of the past.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get weird with rain. Here are the facts
Speaker 3: old schoolhouse stuff works. Do you guys want to talk
Speaker 3: about rain but precipitation, Yeah, condensation, the water cycle, the
Speaker 3: water cycle. Yeah. Because look for everybody who is hearing
Speaker 3: this and saying, these three Jabbroni's are out of their
Speaker 3: necks on this. Sunny days at the beach are the best.
Speaker 3: The only reason sunny days at the beach are possible
Speaker 3: is because of rain. The world depends on rainy weather.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whether you like it you hate it, that's absolutely
Speaker 4: the case. And here in the spirit of how stuff
Speaker 4: works is how this stuff works. To have rain, you
Speaker 4: gotta have clouds. Clouds for them from water or ice
Speaker 4: that evaporates on the surface of the earth, or from
Speaker 4: plants that give off water and oxygen during photosynthesis. And
Speaker 4: there and rents and repeats it is. Yes, it is
Speaker 4: a cycle.
Speaker 2: Guys. Imagine how boring Earth would be if water just
Speaker 2: stayed where it was. It was just like water is
Speaker 2: here and not other places, there would only be plants
Speaker 2: right around the ring of that water, and everything else
Speaker 2: would be so boring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so thankfully water is on this weird sisophia and
Speaker 3: curse situation. You know, we've got to in our notes
Speaker 3: for this episode, we have a lovely little infographic of
Speaker 3: the water cycle, which.
Speaker 4: You might remember from your elementary school or middle school textbooks,
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 3: It is known, as they used to say in Game
Speaker 3: of Thrones. Also, we had an episode that I re
Speaker 3: listened to because our pal doc code named Doc Holiday
Speaker 3: asked me about it. We had an episode on plant intelligence,
Speaker 3: and when I listen back, we spend a while just
Speaker 3: fanboying on how awesome photosynthesis is.
Speaker 4: I do remember that, and I do think it's insane
Speaker 4: the way plants do have an inherent sentience about them.
Speaker 4: How these things just fricking work. You know, nobody has
Speaker 4: to do anything, nobody's got to push any buttons. Humans
Speaker 4: are irrelevant in the percit of fact, Humans screw it
Speaker 4: all up. If anything right.
Speaker 3: Well, the plants talk to each other.
Speaker 4: We know that. What is it those networks of mushrooms underground,
Speaker 4: It's it's like a neural network. It's absolutely mind boggling,
Speaker 4: and to your point, often made been the closest thing
Speaker 4: that I think we can see to alien life on
Speaker 4: Earth is the way mushrooms talk to one another and
Speaker 4: are so incredibly resilient and just magical creatures.
Speaker 2: But you know where, you don't find mushrooms in the
Speaker 2: clouds in the sky.
Speaker 3: All of us, super Mario lied to everyone.
Speaker 4: They also apparently are not found in golden floating bricks
Speaker 4: with question marks on them that you punch and then
Speaker 4: they just pop right out and make you big.
Speaker 3: And we can say that, we asked the mycologist.
Speaker 4: He said, we did. So.
Speaker 2: Look, this is what blows my mind about today's episode.
Speaker 2: My understanding from those classes when I was a kid
Speaker 2: is that water evaporates in the form of a gas
Speaker 2: which is extremely light, and it floats up into the
Speaker 2: air because the air is a little more dense than
Speaker 2: this stuff that's going up there, so it's able to
Speaker 2: go way way up into the atmosphere. But it's not
Speaker 2: like it condenses and hangs out and becomes a cloud
Speaker 2: and then just rains. Right, there's other stuff up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the water vapor turns into clouds as it's slowly
Speaker 3: falling down like him in a parachute, and when it
Speaker 3: when it is cooling, it transforms again from that gash
Speaker 3: estate from water vapor into liquid water or the slightly
Speaker 3: edgy or hardcore version of that ice. But the problem
Speaker 3: is vapor can't do this alone. It's not a water
Speaker 3: Vapor is not a lone wolf operation. It needs a
Speaker 3: solid of some sort to kind of glom onto. Right.
Speaker 3: So this could be anything, because earth is very dirty
Speaker 3: moola spaghetti. So it could be dust, it could be pollen.
Speaker 3: It could be another drop of water that has already
Speaker 3: become liquid. It could be another little crystal of ice,
Speaker 3: the tidiest crystal of ice.
Speaker 2: Some forms of pollution can even do a.
Speaker 3: Lot of them, some of them, some of them humans
Speaker 3: put there on purpose. Some extra clouds. So in the cloud,
Speaker 3: more water condenses. There's a feedback loop these droplets, this
Speaker 3: presence of liquid water grows. When it gets too heavy
Speaker 3: for what Matt is describing here, it can no longer
Speaker 3: stay suspended in the cloud. So these droplets fall to
Speaker 3: the earth as and that's the point where all the
Speaker 3: farmers say whoopee. Or somebody's sitting on a porch sip
Speaker 3: and iced tea looking at the rain from their patio,
Speaker 3: just mutters to themselves, we needed.
Speaker 4: This, yeah, conall, oh yes, I'm so glad that you're
Speaker 4: here with me on this pause, drinking this iced tea
Speaker 4: stand out. It is hot, and I do believe I
Speaker 4: have the vapor.
Speaker 2: This positively laps the humidity, so guys the Okay, So
Speaker 2: when when it becomes like dense and heavy enough to
Speaker 2: be a droplet of water, that's when it starts to fall,
Speaker 2: or when it as it as it's falling, it freezes, right,
Speaker 2: it becomes it can become hail and other things like that.
Speaker 2: There's all I know. I don't look, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: no meteorologist, but that stuff up there isn't that heavy?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, man. Uh. Heavy is a matter
Speaker 3: of context, right, okay, right, because the environment is not
Speaker 3: a vacuum. It's this coagulated soup of different things sort
Speaker 3: of arguing with each other. So as these things finally,
Speaker 3: it's not as though a cloud generates a single droplet
Speaker 3: the way it takes a gallon of water to make
Speaker 3: one almond. It just it reaches a collective threshold. Water
Speaker 3: takes collective action.
Speaker 4: I'm just picturing a gallon of water making an almond.
Speaker 4: And that's the most absurd, delightful thing I've thought of
Speaker 4: all day, think about like, like, you know how we
Speaker 4: don't think of water as being particularly heavy or water
Speaker 4: drople that's being particularly heavy. But I a towel, or
Speaker 4: if your clothes are soaking wet, it's heavy. Yes, it
Speaker 4: builds up over time.
Speaker 2: But I'm just imagining if you were to cut a
Speaker 2: cloud in half. Right as we're talking about this moisture
Speaker 2: condensing towards the bottom of wherever that cloud is, right,
Speaker 2: the where the atmosphere is pushing up against the bottom
Speaker 2: of that cloud, and then the pressure of the water
Speaker 2: vapor that's condensing down onto that layer. That's when you
Speaker 2: get the ring coming out, right, But it's it's more
Speaker 2: of a I like what you're the way you're putting that, guys.
Speaker 2: But it still is kind of baffling to me, just
Speaker 2: the fact that there's that much weight up there just
Speaker 2: to hang stupid.
Speaker 3: It's super It is objectively a ridiculous thing. Science.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised that there isn't a science. Maybe there is,
Speaker 4: and I just don't remember it. But I used to
Speaker 4: work at a science center and one would think there'd
Speaker 4: be a quick and easy way to sort of generate
Speaker 4: a cloud simulation because I want to know what it
Speaker 4: feels like to rub my hand through a cloud.
Speaker 3: Oh you can do it, Yeah, yeah, you can do
Speaker 3: it like a for example. I'm not gonna give a
Speaker 3: personal anecdote here, but it is, uh, it is possible
Speaker 3: to reach a high enough elevation such that you walk
Speaker 3: through low hanging clouds in certain parts of the world
Speaker 3: and it's a ghostly.
Speaker 2: Does it feel just like a fog.
Speaker 3: It feels like going to a church if you believe
Speaker 3: in God.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. That's pretty cool. But I imagine though, because
Speaker 4: of the scale in our you know, comparative smallness, that
Speaker 4: you wouldn't notice it. It's not like you'd walk through
Speaker 4: it and get wet necessarily. You know, you might feel
Speaker 4: a little dampness, but it's not like you're going to
Speaker 4: emerge from the other side of one of these things
Speaker 4: like covered and droplets of water.
Speaker 3: Not dripping, but definitely damp. It definitely is like it
Speaker 3: is a ken to walking through a classic London drizzle
Speaker 3: or Pacific Northwest drizzle. But then if you get to
Speaker 3: the elevation above those very low hanging formations. You look
Speaker 3: down and it looks like you are above the clouds.
Speaker 3: It's real trip sick. It's kind of sick.
Speaker 4: We should go.
Speaker 3: We we talked already a little bit about how amazing
Speaker 3: this is is, how weird it is. Farmers love it.
Speaker 3: People waiting for the bus are probably saying, damn it
Speaker 3: when you see those thunderclouds, really like to be crass.
Speaker 3: When the as falls out of a thunderstorm, and we've
Speaker 3: all been there, so crass, that was so crass. What
Speaker 3: would kind of lingus think? And if.
Speaker 4: We're saying colonel Angus, we're saying angus just.
Speaker 3: Like early American accents, to be sure. So to the
Speaker 3: earlier question here, just to sew up the science, if
Speaker 3: the air in a giving cloud on Earth is below
Speaker 3: the freezing point of water zero degrees celsius or for
Speaker 3: some other weird reason, thirty two degrees fahrenheit, we didn't
Speaker 3: make the rules. Ice crystals form. And if the air
Speaker 3: all the way down to the surface of the ground
Speaker 3: is also below those temperature thresholds, then boom, boom boom,
Speaker 3: you have snow, You get your white Christmas, your Donner party, whatever.
Speaker 2: But because the ice crystals remain that ice crystals, right.
Speaker 3: They don't encounter any other temperature changes. However, again, being
Speaker 3: a messy, chaotic bowl of spaghetti, the atmosphere can intervene,
Speaker 3: so something maybe falling and encounter sort of a layer
Speaker 3: cake of different temperatures, and that's where we get stuff
Speaker 3: like like kale or sleet or what's our favorite in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: Back when it snowed here, they used to scare people
Speaker 3: with wintry mix.
Speaker 4: Ooh, a wintery mix sounds like a delicious milkshake.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like the freezing rain, right's yeah, somewhere in
Speaker 2: between and once it gets down here a black eyes.
Speaker 4: Guys, we don't know what the hell that stuff is.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's sort of a mix, if you will, shout
Speaker 3: out to Key and Peel's excellent black Eyes sketch by
Speaker 3: the way. But you know, as we mentioned, there's a
Speaker 3: lot more to this. We are not the meteorologist you're
Speaker 3: looking for, but that's kind of the gist, and that's
Speaker 3: what informs our conversation tonight. For the entirety of human history,
Speaker 3: people have struggled to predict the weather accurately. We're not meteorologists,
Speaker 3: but I kick it with several meteorologists and they are
Speaker 3: eternally irritated because.
Speaker 4: They have to point in nothing. They just have to
Speaker 4: know where the thing is on the green screen. It's
Speaker 4: a wild skill set.
Speaker 3: They also get angry letters all the time.
Speaker 4: It's because people either blame them for the bad weather
Speaker 4: that they predicted accurately, or they blame them for whatever
Speaker 4: they didn't quite nail because you know, I mean, weather
Speaker 4: prediction isn't always an exact science because you know, conditions
Speaker 4: can change.
Speaker 2: Well, it can't be right because it's trying to tell
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's a real kobashi maru. That's for you,
Speaker 3: Max Free Tran Williams. I mean, it's weird because we
Speaker 3: see this as such a big part of human culture.
Speaker 3: We were very fortunate as a civilization to spend at
Speaker 3: least a little bit of time in a world where
Speaker 3: conversations about weather were boring. But past human civilizations prayed
Speaker 3: about weather. They sacrificed people to weather. There is an
Speaker 3: entire pantheon of gods across the globe entirely associated with
Speaker 3: different types of weather, like gods you pray to for rain,
Speaker 3: god you pray to when you want the rain, to
Speaker 3: stop gods you pray to for like to create, to
Speaker 3: prevent or create natural disasters.
Speaker 4: It's wild, guys. I recently had a bit of a
Speaker 4: home maintenance whoopsie by somebody that I hired off the internet.
Speaker 4: What might that make stake again? And came down into
Speaker 4: my studio to find a water feature had been installed
Speaker 4: non consensually, and it really made me think of, like,
Speaker 4: we need water to survive, We need water for our
Speaker 4: plants to grow. A water can also destroy everything.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, it's true, and it was here before humans
Speaker 3: and we'll probably be here after humans are gone in
Speaker 3: some form. We also we should mention just a shout
Speaker 3: out to an earlier series of episodes that in modern
Speaker 3: history people figured out technological ways to modify the weather
Speaker 3: provable ways that work. Asterisk because right now those methods
Speaker 3: are still imperfect and potentially dangerous. We talked about we
Speaker 3: talked about this in our book to Stratospheric aerosol injection.
Speaker 3: You guys, remember that.
Speaker 4: One that's the weather control or cloud seating, right.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, that's what we're talking about. With bonding
Speaker 3: water vapor to pollutants, you can shoot stuff up and
Speaker 3: sis ai takes this to the nth degree. They're like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's reproduce. Let's solve global warming by making fake volcanic eruptions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, what is it? There were so many rumors
Speaker 2: about NASA having a cloud machine, right, but it's just
Speaker 2: I will my understanding is just testing with some rocket
Speaker 2: materials and some science and tech going on there. But
Speaker 2: there's some fascinating video of some official NASA gadgetry, like
Speaker 2: huge factory size things where it looks like they are
Speaker 2: just generating clouds on the ground which then raise up
Speaker 2: into the sky to make clouds, which you know, it's
Speaker 2: not really a thing necessarily, but it's also a thing.
Speaker 2: It's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super cool. What could go wrong? Says Humanity.
Speaker 4: It's sort of like playing god in a way. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's you know, and the usually when people do that,
Speaker 4: things do tend to go wrong, whether it be with
Speaker 4: like cloning or various things like that. But there are
Speaker 4: a lot of things that could go wrong.
Speaker 3: It turns out, yeah, one hundred percent, shout out to
Speaker 3: the Olympics in China. But also there are growing concerns
Speaker 3: about large scale changes to Earth's ecosystem and weather patterns,
Speaker 3: so we can understand how most conversations about the weather
Speaker 3: are usually going to be focused on the present and
Speaker 3: the fearful future today. But what if we told you, folks,
Speaker 3: the weather, rain in particular has always had its own
Speaker 3: strange moments, and some of those moments remain a mystery
Speaker 3: even as we record this evening. Folks check it. It's Monday,
Speaker 3: July eighth, and we're pretty sure a storm is on
Speaker 3: the way here.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to you, guys, according to the AI
Speaker 2: over at weather dot.
Speaker 5: Com, I'm gonna be okay, Oh good, Here's where it
Speaker 5: gets crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, over the span of history, a lot more than
Speaker 3: water has rained on the earth. I think we all
Speaker 3: read about this, right. You see it in like time
Speaker 3: lifebooks or documentaries and so on.
Speaker 4: Weird rain of.
Speaker 2: Fishes, certainly, and if you've seen any really good movies
Speaker 2: over the you've probably seen depictions of weird stuff falling
Speaker 2: from the skies of magnolia.
Speaker 4: But it's also it's a biblical image too. I mean,
Speaker 4: the idea of rains of frogs is I believe, one
Speaker 4: of the plagues from the Bible. So you know, it
Speaker 4: does feel like it has the significance, and it probably
Speaker 4: is something that actually did occur and then was just
Speaker 4: sort of pegged and then lumped into these plagus. But
Speaker 4: it really was just kind of a weird weather phenomenon,
Speaker 4: like the was it the Kentucky meat meat.
Speaker 3: Rain whatever, that Kentucky meat shower.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get into that. It's a it's a weird one.
Speaker 3: So we know we know that we'll lean on the
Speaker 3: Library of Congress in the US here. We know that
Speaker 3: there have been reports of raining frogs and fish dating
Speaker 3: back to pre recorded civilization. Library of Congress also goes
Speaker 3: on to add, of course, it doesn't rain frogs and
Speaker 3: fish in the sense that it rains water. No one
Speaker 3: has ever seen frogs or fish vaporized into the air
Speaker 3: before a rainfall. So already we see there's a bit
Speaker 3: of an unexpected mystery here. But we know what's a
Speaker 3: mystery people are wrestling with for quite some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like they're tadpoles when they're up in
Speaker 2: the clouds, right, and then they start to fall down
Speaker 2: towards the bottom of the cloud, and then they start
Speaker 2: to turn into frogs as they fall.
Speaker 4: There's a different kind of cloud seating, right, Yeah, it
Speaker 4: is sorry that. But you know, to someone who's not
Speaker 4: maybe as in the know about how these processes work,
Speaker 4: it could seem like that, like the heavens are producing
Speaker 4: a rain of these creatures where they do not belong,
Speaker 4: and it is signifying something very dark and sinistern.
Speaker 3: M heracle these Lembus, Greek philosopher back in the day,
Speaker 3: he wrote the following. In the second century BC, he
Speaker 3: said in Peotia and doug danie it as they say
Speaker 3: before now rain frogs, and so great it's been the
Speaker 3: number of these frogs that the houses and the roods
Speaker 3: have been fulled of them, And then plenty of the
Speaker 3: elder co signs it later in the first century AD
Speaker 3: or CE. Pick your poison. You can find weird accounts
Speaker 3: of animal rain, particularly fish and frogs, in the vast
Speaker 3: majority of human culture at some point. As was noted earlier,
Speaker 3: there is an armchair theory that this kind of phenomenon
Speaker 3: could explain one of the tales of biblical plagues, the
Speaker 3: plague of frogs. It could also explain a good event
Speaker 3: like the rain of Mana, which is a different thing, right,
Speaker 3: Manna falls from heaven and saves the starving well.
Speaker 4: I think it's no coincidence that we haven't seen or
Speaker 4: heard tell of rains of like kittie cats or puppy
Speaker 4: dogs for example. I mean, these are creatures. Well, we'll
Speaker 4: get into some other weird ones, but it does seem
Speaker 4: in general that aquatic creatures tend to be the best
Speaker 4: candidates for this kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Important clue. Yeah, and we also know just objectively if
Speaker 3: we put on our X files investigator hats. This is
Speaker 3: vastly different from stories of UFO or UAP abductions because
Speaker 3: a lot of animal rain episodes have been conclusively proven
Speaker 3: with multiple witnesses and documentation, or the better way to
Speaker 3: say it is a lot of weird animals have been
Speaker 3: sighted during and after storms and thereby associated with rain.
Speaker 3: We'll see why. This is not just hair splitting. This
Speaker 3: is like a big piece.
Speaker 4: Of the puzzle. So as an example, in seventeen ninety four,
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty French soldiers near the village of
Speaker 4: La Land found themselves assaulted by seriously gnarly heavy rain.
Speaker 4: An absolute downpour during a storm, along with a massive
Speaker 4: barrage of frogs raining down from the sky and popular mechanics,
Speaker 4: tends to be the authority on these kinds of things
Speaker 4: had this to say. I've had closer inspection revealed that
Speaker 4: many of the toads, a great number of which were
Speaker 4: discovered in the folds and creases of the men's hats
Speaker 4: and uniforms, still possessed tails.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, So they were young frogs. Maybe they weren't even
Speaker 2: frogs completely yet to maybe they were still of the
Speaker 2: tadpoling variety. I don't know, you know, yeah, but this stuff,
Speaker 2: this non aqueous rain, So like non water rain, there's
Speaker 2: some weird ones, and there are some that you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of these instances like occurred one time like
Speaker 2: this one, right, this is like a tail of some
Speaker 2: crazy time when some frogs rain down in the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 2: But there are other instances that occur often, almost like clockwork, predictable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even up to four times a year. We've got
Speaker 3: to go to euro Honduras. What a setup, Matt, Because
Speaker 3: this again differentiates from the UFO abduction kind of comparison. Right,
Speaker 3: what if you could predict that at a certain point,
Speaker 3: starting in maybe May or June, there was one town
Speaker 3: that always consistently had UFO sightings, landings, and abductions that's
Speaker 3: what's happening with the Juvia de peseses or the let's
Speaker 3: see Aguacero de Pascado, the downpour of fish that happens
Speaker 3: in this place in Honduras, euro Honduras. It's happened for
Speaker 3: more than a century, but less than four hundred years
Speaker 3: as far as we can find, and they lean into it.
Speaker 3: They have a huge party in May or June. They
Speaker 3: call it the Festival of the Rain of Fish or
Speaker 3: the Festival of the Downpour of Fish. There's a parade,
Speaker 3: there's a carnival, there are people dressed like fish. It's
Speaker 3: this wholesome LOVECRAFTI and insmith thing, and you gotta go.
Speaker 2: It's a real cloud even a chance of meatballs situation.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, well that's the thing. I mean, you could
Speaker 4: certainly eat the frogs as well, but to some a
Speaker 4: rain of fish that's a that's kind of a bonus.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't gather those suckers up and you
Speaker 4: got your sere eating good for a week.
Speaker 3: Depending on the fish.
Speaker 2: To be fair, the species that I've seen associated with
Speaker 2: this particular place and this downpour is probably not a
Speaker 2: fish that you're gonna want a file at. It's they're
Speaker 2: pretty tiny and not not like baby fish, right if
Speaker 2: you're imagining that. But they're small fish, not a lot
Speaker 2: of meat.
Speaker 4: Up I throwback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, another clue. I mean, that's the that gets us
Speaker 3: to the main mystery. Right, think about the weight.
Speaker 4: You have thought about the.
Speaker 3: Weight the like. Obviously, frogs and fish are heavier than air.
Speaker 3: That's why they don't permanently levitate. They can't evaporate up
Speaker 3: into clouds, and they can't suspend themselves there to you know,
Speaker 3: f a f o and reproduce. So what gives In
Speaker 3: some cases people said, hey, weird rain. This whole phenomenon
Speaker 3: or non aqueous rain as it would later say, it
Speaker 3: is entirely attributable to spiritual causes. The gods are either
Speaker 3: super happy with us or they're super pissed. And now
Speaker 3: we're on non judicial punishment kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, what's that movie from the eighties The gods
Speaker 4: must be crazy? Yes, I think that that's I think
Speaker 4: that offense. But that would be one inference to draw
Speaker 4: from this situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, now we kind of we do sort of
Speaker 3: know a little bit about this. If you have ever
Speaker 3: read about the rains of fish and frogs or amphibians
Speaker 3: in particular. Then you have almost certainly read reputable sources
Speaker 3: or heard reputable journalists say that the mystery has been explained,
Speaker 3: as we're going to find that is not entirely true.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an explanation that sounds really solid at
Speaker 3: first glance, especially if you're not a marine biologist, nor
Speaker 3: an oceanologist, nor a meteorologist. Knowing the current theory about
Speaker 3: what could form these incidents also convinces us there's not
Speaker 3: really a way to stop it, nor outside maybe Honduras,
Speaker 3: a way to predict it over the long term. We
Speaker 3: have another clue that comes to us courtesy of a
Speaker 3: French scientist who is famous for some other things. But
Speaker 3: he got he got what we call it, he got
Speaker 3: his chops in. He dropped a hot verse on the discourse.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well this is his theory. Ready quote, Sudden
Speaker 2: gusts of violent wind could lift large groups of frogs
Speaker 2: high into the air, and then when the burst of
Speaker 2: wind dissipated, they would rain back to the ground in
Speaker 2: one swift action. Or that's me adding that in one
Speaker 2: swift action. But that's what that's what this person is imagining.
Speaker 2: Let's say a tornado right, or part of a hurricane
Speaker 2: or a water spouch some some thing that causes wind
Speaker 2: to rise upwards rapidly could sweep up a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of frogs, maybe in a little pond, or a bunch
Speaker 2: of fish that are swimming near the surface, and take
Speaker 2: them all the way up in the air and drop
Speaker 2: them right back down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this reminds me of two I think we talked
Speaker 4: about it on a video we did recently, or one
Speaker 4: of our YouTube videos. There was a very down to
Speaker 4: earth scientific explanation for Moses's parting of the Red Sea
Speaker 4: that it was just kind of a very what's the word,
Speaker 4: I guess, serendipitous weather event that created this phenomenon that
Speaker 4: happened to be very very good fortune for Moses and
Speaker 4: the Israelites, but did not necessarily involve Moses waving his
Speaker 4: staff and parting the Red Sea. It was a meteorological anomaly,
Speaker 4: which is I guess what you could call these things
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, weather used to make history. No humans make weather.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting situation. The French scientists. We're talking about
Speaker 3: this guy named Andre Marie Amber, most notably famous as
Speaker 3: the guy who discovered electromagneticism. He was doing a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff. Oh wow, Yeah, that's why we call it
Speaker 3: amps sick. Yeah, also really into frogs. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he ever ate frogs himself. Have you guys ever
Speaker 3: had a good plate of frog?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good. I know they get sort of stereotypically
Speaker 4: associated with the French, but I believe it is a
Speaker 4: part of traditional French cooking more so than other cultures.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have and it's true. They do taste
Speaker 4: like chicken. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you cook them right, don't cook them wrong,
Speaker 3: look it up, look up the recipe before you get
Speaker 3: them in the pan.
Speaker 4: And then they taste a little froggy.
Speaker 2: Otherwise I was gonna say, is that a dangerous thing?
Speaker 2: Is that like undercooking chicken, they.
Speaker 4: Can't taste rubbery and gross and frogs?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing I mean. Also, you know,
Speaker 3: cook your food, etc. Cooker food kids, cook your food kids.
Speaker 3: Our buddy Andre was not far off to get the
Speaker 3: real answer. We have to bust this important misconception, and
Speaker 3: this is the crux of the problem with the theory.
Speaker 3: Not all rain is actually rain. In fact, the majority
Speaker 3: of what people are witnessing we could call counterfeit animal rain.
Speaker 3: Imagine you walk outside after a storm. You've had your
Speaker 3: little cozy time on the patio right with some coffee
Speaker 3: or some tea, and then when you get outside you
Speaker 3: see a lot of weird animals laying on the ground,
Speaker 3: a bevy of them, a cavalcade. You would naturally assume
Speaker 3: the animals were dropped by the storm. However, if we
Speaker 3: go back to again an excellent summation by the Library
Speaker 3: of Congress, we see a really good We see a
Speaker 3: really good exploration of what actually occurred in counterfeit animal rate.
Speaker 2: And this is way more on the skeptical side. So
Speaker 2: here we go, ready quote. Because of the popularity and
Speaker 2: mystery surrounding stories about raining animals, some people falsely report
Speaker 2: an animal rainfall after seeing large numbers of worms, frogs,
Speaker 2: birds on the ground after a storm. However, these animals
Speaker 2: did not fall from the sky. Instead, storms fill in
Speaker 2: worm burrows, knock birds from trees and roofs, wash fish
Speaker 2: onto the shores of rivers and ponds, and drive frogs
Speaker 2: and other small animals from their habitats. People who live
Speaker 2: in suburban or urban environments tend to underestimate the number
Speaker 2: of organisms living around their homes. Therefore, they may suspect
Speaker 2: that animals came from the sky rather than from their
Speaker 2: natural habitats. So I see that as a possibility in
Speaker 2: some of these right. That makes a lot of sense
Speaker 2: to me. If you notice a bunch of birds lying
Speaker 2: on the ground dead after a big storm, and we've
Speaker 2: seen that numerous times throughout history, where it's reported, you know,
Speaker 2: in the news, we'll see that pop up on the
Speaker 2: subreddit about news, We'll see it pop up in the
Speaker 2: Guardian other places where the bunch of birds were dead
Speaker 2: after a big storm, or you know, something occurred that
Speaker 2: killed a lot of these birds, they're everywhere. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: The frogs make a ton of sense. We've lived in
Speaker 2: the South. We've seen, like after a big rainstorm or something,
Speaker 2: bunch of frogs are just hanging out. A bunch of
Speaker 2: toads are like out now because of the rains, right,
Speaker 2: but generally they're not all dead, at least in my experience.
Speaker 2: The fish thing only makes sense to me if there
Speaker 2: was some kind of minor flooding or something that caused
Speaker 2: enough water or run off or something to like sweep
Speaker 2: over a lawn or a neighborho hood or something and
Speaker 2: then go away relatively quickly to where the fish ended
Speaker 2: up on the lawn somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're making a great point, because the fish
Speaker 3: and amphibians, the avians and the amphibians live in a
Speaker 3: liminal space, right. One is sort of in the freeport
Speaker 3: between the land and the sea or the land of water,
Speaker 3: and the other one is in the you know, in
Speaker 3: the terminal between the land and the air. And so
Speaker 3: what looks like animal rain may actually be two distinct phenomena.
Speaker 3: In the first, the animals get moved along the ground
Speaker 3: or they get knocked down off the eaves, often of
Speaker 3: things as we'll see in an etymology joke we're saving
Speaker 3: for the end. And in the second, the one people
Speaker 3: tend to believe most often, these animals, these fish especially
Speaker 3: get sucked up by and we could say they get
Speaker 3: non consensually redistributed together.
Speaker 2: That's again, they get gentrified.
Speaker 4: Well, and I mean, you know, like I was saying
Speaker 4: that that that storm that we had here in Atlanta,
Speaker 4: in the Atlanta area the other night, I mean it
Speaker 4: got to a point where it was literally knocking cans
Speaker 4: and all kinds of things over from my you know,
Speaker 4: kind of covered porch. I mean it is absolute. They
Speaker 4: call it a force of nature. Anything that's like really
Speaker 4: really strong and unmanageable and completely out of control is
Speaker 4: often referred to as being a force of nature. That's
Speaker 4: what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: But but there are other there are other things that
Speaker 2: have happened where people have witnessed in the recent past,
Speaker 2: things like fish falling from the sky, not just the
Speaker 2: after effects of fish on the ground, but fish falling
Speaker 2: like Australia.
Speaker 3: Yes, like the recent cases in Australia. And we're going
Speaker 3: to dive into or we're going to fall into more
Speaker 3: of that. After a brief word from our sponsors, we
Speaker 3: returned with the actual animal rain theory and the bizarre
Speaker 3: complications surrounding. We've returned the actual animal rain theory, all right.
Speaker 3: The leading thing is this, storms are most often way
Speaker 3: stronger than the average person assumes.
Speaker 4: Think about it.
Speaker 3: You're probably not in the clouds during a storm. You
Speaker 3: don't see all the you don't beat me here, Max,
Speaker 3: you'll see all the crazy shit that's going on. We're
Speaker 3: down on the ground, boots on the ground, right, and
Speaker 3: we don't see the terrifying ingredients that are that are
Speaker 3: part of the recipe that can lead to things like
Speaker 3: hurricanes or typhoons and things that can lead to strange rain.
Speaker 3: And this is where we get to what we call
Speaker 3: the tornadic or tornadic waterput theory. Maybe we go to
Speaker 3: the BBC to set us up absolutely.
Speaker 4: The BBC puts it thusly. Given strong enough winds in thunderstorms,
Speaker 4: for example, small whirlwinds and many tornadoes may form. When
Speaker 4: these travel over water, any small items of debris in
Speaker 4: their path, which as fish or frogs, may be picked
Speaker 4: up and carried up for several miles, up to several
Speaker 4: miles rather. Greg Carbon of the National Weather Service notes
Speaker 4: that it is possible, especially when you look at the
Speaker 4: power of some thunderstorms and tornadoes, because they contain what
Speaker 4: he refers to as a tremendous vertical component. That's the
Speaker 4: wind we're talking about that can suck things up and
Speaker 4: deposit them far from where they were picked up. We've
Speaker 4: all seen Twister the movie. I mean, it carried a cow, y'all,
Speaker 4: a cgi cow. And we're looking forward to Twist Stirs,
Speaker 4: the movie coming soon to a theater near you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're gonna talk about this, But guys,
Speaker 2: I think tornado is one thing. These in very strong storms,
Speaker 2: even with these wind gusts, with the with some of
Speaker 2: these what do they call them, like small little whirlwinds
Speaker 2: that go up. I still don't see that vertical pressure
Speaker 2: and force digging deep enough within water to even pick
Speaker 2: up frogs and tadpoles and stuff. And maybe that's just
Speaker 2: I can't see it, just because I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Well, there's some experts that would agree with you, and
Speaker 4: they can't see it either. And I do see what
Speaker 4: you're saying. You're talking about those water spouts that occur
Speaker 4: over open water. They would have just enough power to
Speaker 4: kind of sustain themselves, it feels like, and then kind
Speaker 4: of peter out. But I don't anywhere and how love
Speaker 4: far would these things travel? Like, you're not, are they
Speaker 4: gonna shoot them up into the sky? I don't. That
Speaker 4: just doesn't seem like they would have enough outward pressure
Speaker 4: outward to have that kind of trajectory, because it would
Speaker 4: literally require shooting them up into the sky like some
Speaker 4: sort of cannon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you guys are raising some particularly astute
Speaker 3: points here. I mean, let's look at this. We got
Speaker 3: the gist of this idea. We've been using words like
Speaker 3: possible in theory, but this, you know why, there are
Speaker 3: problems with it. There are significant issues. It may well
Speaker 3: be what's happening multiple times a year out there in Honduras,
Speaker 3: but it's not a silver bullet solution by any means.
Speaker 3: This theory does not explain why so many incidents seem
Speaker 3: to have only a single type of animal or species falling.
Speaker 3: It also does not explain, to Matt's earlier point, incidents
Speaker 3: where deep sea animals end up raining on the surface. Further,
Speaker 3: it doesn't explain how these animals could survive the fall
Speaker 3: because gravity is real. Right, if they're dropped, you know,
Speaker 3: from such great heights, to quote whatever Emo song that
Speaker 3: is from, they should thank you. They should be splattity, right,
Speaker 3: I'm using the technical nomenclature. They should not be flipped
Speaker 3: in and flop it in around.
Speaker 4: And in Magnolia they do just that. In the film.
Speaker 4: There is some splatting of frogs when they fall in
Speaker 4: that scenario. But in that scenario it almost is meant
Speaker 4: to be like this Deis x Makina that kind of
Speaker 4: guides the plot and it's sort of this like divine intervention.
Speaker 4: If you are meant to kind of take it as
Speaker 4: a spiritual occurrence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which, and there's nothing wrong with that, because spirituality
Speaker 3: is just a framework people put on the world around
Speaker 3: and within them, you know, So if you choose to
Speaker 3: encounter it that way, then that's perfect that if that
Speaker 3: satisfies you philosophically. I mean the idea that when we
Speaker 3: look at the science tornadic water spouts, tornadoes forming over water,
Speaker 3: this makes sense for some of the cases we're talking
Speaker 3: about because the animals involved or victimized, or often small,
Speaker 3: they're light in weight. There is no record of a
Speaker 3: pod of you know, humpback whales occurring after a storm
Speaker 3: as far as we know, right in conspiracy at iHeartRadio
Speaker 3: dot com if there is a whale rain. But it
Speaker 3: also to your earlier point, Noel, it doesn't explain why
Speaker 3: a water spout could carry fish over long distances with
Speaker 3: that vertical push instead of instantly just throw them out
Speaker 3: in every single direction, like when you hit grass with
Speaker 3: a weed eater.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, guys, I'm imagining the POV
Speaker 2: of a small spangled perch getting sucked sucked up in
Speaker 2: a water spout somewhere near Australia, and you get sucked
Speaker 2: way up in there. But then you think you're just
Speaker 2: gonna fall to the ground, but no, no, no, you
Speaker 2: land in this almost water like soupiness. That is the
Speaker 2: cloud like beginning to rain as it's condensing.
Speaker 3: A cumulo nimbus it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, do you think the do you think the
Speaker 2: fish could swim around in that like that liminal space
Speaker 2: for just a moment before it fell again?
Speaker 3: I hope. So that's beautiful because then if a fish,
Speaker 3: if the right fish goes up and then comes down successfully,
Speaker 3: then we have our UFO story. Right then you have
Speaker 3: our fish profit in our religion, there's another ocean.
Speaker 4: Ye swim with me.
Speaker 2: But that's a that is a okay, that is a
Speaker 2: myth making concept from a real story that happened in
Speaker 2: March twenty ten where apparently in this small Australian outback town,
Speaker 2: a bunch of fish, the spangled perch, we're falling from
Speaker 2: the sky and it was witnessed by multiple people who
Speaker 2: live in that town. There's only six hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: residents there, but they watched the fish falling, so it
Speaker 2: wasn't they discovered the fish dead. Afterwards, they saw those
Speaker 2: fish falling down and Here's a quote. Here's a quote
Speaker 2: for somebody who was there. When I told my family,
Speaker 2: who live in another part of Australia about the fish
Speaker 2: falling from the sky, they thought I'd lost the plot.
Speaker 2: But no, I haven't lost my marbles. All I can
Speaker 2: say is that I'm thankful it didn't rain crocodiles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and didn't you say perch, Matt, I mean.
Speaker 2: The spangled perch. They're very tiny.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna say perch is good eats? Right,
Speaker 4: it can be, but I guess I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 4: know why I'm leaning so hard on this being some
Speaker 4: sort of like loaves and fishes gift from God kind
Speaker 4: of situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which would be amazing. And also, if you
Speaker 3: have to, you can eat to survive many fish that
Speaker 3: are not tasty. It's kind of like eating a fox
Speaker 3: or crow. It's not ideal, but you know, get to tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if they are a little splatted.
Speaker 3: Even if they're a little splatty. You know, some people
Speaker 3: pay for that, Like whenever you help a friend move,
Speaker 3: just remember that a lot of people pay to go
Speaker 3: to the gym.
Speaker 2: So that's right, which is pre splatted for your eating pleasure?
Speaker 3: We are also going to start a pop up animal
Speaker 3: rain food truck. There's a lot of travel involved. Our
Speaker 3: hours are weird, but we'll give you a deal.
Speaker 2: Well what wait. We work with NASA and they help
Speaker 2: us make a water spout generating machine. That machine sends
Speaker 2: the small fish that we form into the air. They
Speaker 2: pre splat cook them up for you.
Speaker 3: Frog special.
Speaker 4: You could be Korean barbecue style and you gotta find
Speaker 4: your own pick the way you want and then cook
Speaker 4: it your damnself and pay us for the privilege.
Speaker 3: Dang, did you have a bad KBBQ? No, no situation.
Speaker 4: I like Korea barbecue.
Speaker 2: He did. My son almost died on some deliciousness.
Speaker 4: It's also very expensive for I mean, you could just
Speaker 4: buy a bunch of meat and cook it at home.
Speaker 4: I mean I do like the butther of the banchan
Speaker 4: there on the side, it's the cheesecorn. There's there's some
Speaker 4: things that are good about it, for sure.
Speaker 3: If you guys want to hang out off air, there
Speaker 3: are a few low key spots in town that are
Speaker 3: not gonna rip us off.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, And did you guys hear there's a
Speaker 4: new sister location of Northern China eatery that's opening in
Speaker 4: man and downtown or closer to us than Beford Highway.
Speaker 4: It's called the Dumpling Factory. Look it up, y'all. If
Speaker 4: you know, you know, good stuff.
Speaker 3: If you know you know. And this returns us to
Speaker 3: the theory of animal rain, and a lot of skeptics,
Speaker 3: surprisingly enough, very science forward skeptics are saying, if you
Speaker 3: know this theory, then you know it's bs a couple
Speaker 3: of them. How surprising is this will even tell you
Speaker 3: that animal rain in andend of itself is a conspiracy
Speaker 3: theory and does not exist as the theory is commonly propagated.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Skeptoid with Brian Dunning. He says the following,
Speaker 3: and he's got a great article or podcast about the
Speaker 3: problems with the physics and the meteorology evolved with this
Speaker 3: idea of tornadoes and water spouts. He says, quote, the
Speaker 3: decreased air pressure inside a tornadic water spout can actually
Speaker 3: raise the water level by as much as half a meter,
Speaker 3: but the water itself is not sucked up inside. The
Speaker 3: visible column of a water spout is made up of
Speaker 3: condensation and is transparent. The high winds will kick up
Speaker 3: a lot of spray from wavelets fun word on the surface,
Speaker 3: but if you look at pictures of water spouts, you'll
Speaker 3: see that this spray is thrown outward, not sucked inward
Speaker 3: and up. So this all leads into conclude that water spouts,
Speaker 3: quote simply, do not have any mechanism by which they
Speaker 3: might reach down into the water, collect objects and then
Speaker 3: transport them upward into the sky. But he wrote that
Speaker 3: to me, he wrote that before the Australian stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well there's also Tempico, Mexico, where it happened
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. Who knows, But I do agree with this.
Speaker 2: I mean that assessment is pretty astute there, especially if
Speaker 2: that is true the mechanism of sending the force sending
Speaker 2: things outward rather than up and especially well, now hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on, what if it's an up and out scenario
Speaker 2: where they're just flinging them so instead of sending.
Speaker 4: A great glass elevator.
Speaker 2: Because if there was a body of water close enough
Speaker 2: to one of these smaller towns that has you know,
Speaker 2: a bunch of frogs in it or something like that,
Speaker 2: that water spout could just toss them into town.
Speaker 3: Which goes back to the thing our our French pal
Speaker 3: Andre pointed out much earlier, right, he was the first
Speaker 3: we missed this part. He was the first person in
Speaker 3: recorded Western history to compare the seasonal propagation of amphibians
Speaker 3: with the subsequent weird rain episodes. So things like this,
Speaker 3: some sort of weather phenomenon may be happening at a
Speaker 3: frequency that humans are not aware of, and it only
Speaker 3: appears to be weird animal rain when the other conditions
Speaker 3: are right, sort of like when planets aligned, or a
Speaker 3: ven diagram, or an example of a third thing because
Speaker 3: I like the rule of thirds.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I've got a third thing for you. I've
Speaker 2: got a little theory, guys. Submerged objects, unidentified submerged objects.
Speaker 2: We have speculated about these trans medium things for a
Speaker 2: long time on this show, and the world is really
Speaker 2: getting into them right now. What if the way that
Speaker 2: some of these trans medium objects function, especially the larger ones,
Speaker 2: is to create that distortion field around them, that is
Speaker 2: theorized that would allow a ship that is made of
Speaker 2: either metal or you know, other things and a ton
Speaker 2: of energy can move from air into water with no
Speaker 2: problem and back out again. What if that thing, whatever
Speaker 2: that energy field is, that it creates is some kind
Speaker 2: of stasis thing that could let's say, trap a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of perch inside of it. Then as it travels
Speaker 2: up into the air out of the water, it's and
Speaker 2: then it's flying over some other place that that whatever
Speaker 2: that distortion field is that's being used to travel is
Speaker 2: no longer needed. It shuts down all them fish fall
Speaker 2: out the sky.
Speaker 3: Love it well done, Greenlit. Yeah, I'm somewhat joking, But
Speaker 3: at the same time I was.
Speaker 2: I actually could see an image of that occurring, even
Speaker 2: though it's all speculative and not real.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It depends because there's no proof
Speaker 3: that that's not what's happening, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just like the image.
Speaker 3: I want to believe the truth is out there. Oh
Speaker 3: this is so this. This is such a weird pickle,
Speaker 3: though I like it should not for nothing is Matt's
Speaker 3: theory on this pretty solid. You can't prove it's not true, right,
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where people are at with the
Speaker 3: idea of raining fish. We didn't even get to it.
Speaker 3: There are going to be future episodes because it turns out,
Speaker 3: even though we kept this contained to fish and amphibians, right,
Speaker 3: there are many other weird rains out there. I can't
Speaker 3: wait for our episode on Star Jelly, but we do
Speaker 3: owe a shout out to the amazing author Cynthia Barnett,
Speaker 3: who wrote Rain, a natural and cultural history. You guys know,
Speaker 3: longtime listeners, we love books about cartoonishly specific things, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're interested in i'd sort of tease
Speaker 4: the Great Kentucky meat Shower. Earlier in the episode. There
Speaker 4: is an episode of Ridiculous History on the time that
Speaker 4: gobbits of rotten meat rained down on the good people
Speaker 4: of Kentucky.
Speaker 3: They know what they did.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the Olympia Springs incident.
Speaker 3: Eighteen seventy six. Yeah, also Kentucky meat shower. We're particularly
Speaker 3: in love with that because it sounds like a weird euphemism.
Speaker 4: M hm. It really like a move, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a move. It's a move or a noise band.
Speaker 4: Perhaps that'd be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or you know, if you put the time stamp
Speaker 3: on it, eighteen seventy six, Kentucky meat shower could be
Speaker 3: something that God speed your you Black Emperor would write exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe seventeen minutes long. There would be drums there would
Speaker 3: be percussion at the last four minutes.
Speaker 4: Right yeah, and then just like a field recording with
Speaker 4: somebody ranting about how the government is out to get
Speaker 4: us all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It could also just be somebody in Kentucky standing
Speaker 2: on the edge of a building saving so much.
Speaker 3: Money on their water built as well. You know how
Speaker 3: I save money of big water. I just shower in
Speaker 3: the meat.
Speaker 2: I thought he was urinating off the side of the building.
Speaker 4: But that's not me, that's juice.
Speaker 3: Well, it is a meat, humane human audjue.
Speaker 2: Jesus so released from his meat, is what I was saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, we want to fit perfect, we want to
Speaker 3: finish the shout out. We were trying to get to
Speaker 3: a Cynthia Barnett rain and natural and cultural history, she notes,
Speaker 3: and then later goes on to prove that there are
Speaker 3: many different non fish, nonoqueous, non frog, or non amphibian
Speaker 3: rains reported over history. Hey, snakes, maggots, seeds, nuts, stones,
Speaker 3: shredded meat. It goes on and odd and on. We're
Speaker 3: gonna save some of this for future episodes, particularly star Jelly.
Speaker 3: But yeah, get thee to our pere podcast, Pardiculous History.
Speaker 3: Check out the meat story the meat shower story because
Speaker 3: we do solve it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Did you guys talk about the spider
Speaker 2: rain in Australia and like how that works?
Speaker 3: Spider rains in the meat chower?
Speaker 4: We did. I don't know about this one, but I
Speaker 4: actually think maybe there might be a future episode in
Speaker 4: the works for this and or ridiculous history about just
Speaker 4: a lot of these different when it rained weird stories.
Speaker 2: Well, this is definitely a when it happens because it's
Speaker 2: pretty frequent, kind of like that one town in Honduras.
Speaker 2: But spider rains. Look up mass ballooning events and if
Speaker 2: you don't like spiders, you will not like what you find,
Speaker 2: but it will be a fun thing to share with
Speaker 2: other people, you know who don't like spiders.
Speaker 3: If you don't like spiders, no judgment, but as a representative,
Speaker 3: I do ask you to acknowledge the fundamental role that
Speaker 3: spiders play in the human ecosystem. Not all bad. It's
Speaker 3: not all bad. There's so many spider stereotypes out there. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna let us sit in that way.
Speaker 2: I think, Well, I you know, there are a ton
Speaker 2: of spiders outside my house right now, and they are
Speaker 2: catching a lot of the mosquitos and other little creatures
Speaker 2: that I do not like so much. So yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 3: Better the devil, you know, they say, We also know
Speaker 3: weird rain is still a thing, like it's a group
Speaker 3: term for a lot of different phenomenon, right, But it's
Speaker 3: going to continue. And at the very least, if you
Speaker 3: want to be skeptical, or if you agree with the
Speaker 3: skeptics who reject the water spout idea, then you can
Speaker 3: say that at the very least, people will continue to
Speaker 3: believe they have witnessed adimal rain. I really appreciate you,
Speaker 3: Matt for pointing out that there are witnesses in recent years,
Speaker 3: particularly in Australia, who are saying, no, we didn't just
Speaker 3: walk out and see fish on the ground, we watched
Speaker 3: them fall from the heavens. I think the best way
Speaker 3: for us to end tonight's episode is to ask our
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realists for help. If you have ever witnessed strange,
Speaker 3: non aqueous rain weird rain, tell us right in with
Speaker 3: your stories. We want to know one what you saw,
Speaker 3: two when and where, And most importantly, we want to
Speaker 3: know if you actually witnessed strange things falling from the
Speaker 3: sky versus finding them afterward. We're super excited to hear
Speaker 3: your stories for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh guys, what if it's what if we were going
Speaker 2: to stay in the Kobyashi Maru like Star Trek World.
Speaker 2: Here it's a transporter room and they've got a bunch
Speaker 2: of frogs or small fish that they're trying to get somewhere,
Speaker 2: and they just put in the cord and it's wrong
Speaker 2: and it just ended up over at Tempego, Mexico.
Speaker 3: Well, that engineer is fired. But then also, you know,
Speaker 3: what if the transporter only works underwater and you have
Speaker 3: to have a big enough distortion field that you know
Speaker 3: some of the fish are going to have to go.
Speaker 4: With Ah, I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: Well, you know important journalism. We can't wait to hear
Speaker 3: your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: The last thing we have to say before we get
Speaker 3: in tonight's exploration. We are thankfully pretty sure that raining
Speaker 3: cats and dogs is just a figure of speech. Looking
Speaker 3: into the etymology, it seems that it comes from the
Speaker 3: Victorian era of Europe, when dogs or and or cats
Speaker 3: small domestic mammals would be on rooftops or on second
Speaker 3: floors the eaves of buildings and the downpours the deluges
Speaker 3: would be so powerful that they would knock these animals
Speaker 3: off the building.
Speaker 4: It's sort of like everything but the kitchen sink.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: This is this idea of being the most, being very extra.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I guess it's a little bit better.
Speaker 3: We should be thankful to this language that they didn't
Speaker 3: say it's raining, you know, orphans and hoboes, because those
Speaker 3: poor guys probably got knocked off the eaves as well
Speaker 3: when the rain got too powerful. Anyway, let us know
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Speaker 2: Imagine how elated the stray cats would be if one
Speaker 2: of these fish rings or frog greens happened.
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