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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: they call me Ben.

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Speaker 3: We're joined with our guest super producer Max the freight

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Speaker 3: Train Williams. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 3: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 3: We're only happy when it rains, and we're calling it folks.

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Speaker 3: We decided, yeah, we're calling it complicated. We decided off

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Speaker 3: air that it's time for a break from the gloom

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Speaker 3: and doom of recent yet crucial episodes. Did you guys

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Speaker 3: catch some of the awesome storms over the weekend. We

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Speaker 3: were going to record this on a Friday, it's stormed

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Speaker 3: on a Thursday, but the weekend really came through with

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Speaker 3: some epic nature.

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Speaker 4: Seriously, like the kind of stuff that knocks things over.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, yeah, it's nothing compared to Beryl, which

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Speaker 2: everybody you know in Mexico and Texas and a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other places in the Caribbean got slammed with. But

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Speaker 2: the lightning and thunder was intense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hurricane barrel. Yeah, as we get into this,

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Speaker 3: I'm immensely interested. I don't think we've ever talked about

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Speaker 3: this explicitly with each other on air, But would you

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Speaker 3: guys describe yourselves as more rainy day people or more

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Speaker 2: Thunderstorm on the beach is like my coach's amazing well

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Speaker 2: on the Okay, I guess so maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, sure there could be an opportunity where that

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Speaker 2: might be cool. I could see Previson saying I'm in

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Speaker 2: a place that is safe, right ish at least from

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Speaker 2: the lightning, as long as I get to see it, and.

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Speaker 3: Watching watching from a cool patio, which protective stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not dipping your toes while holding a lightning rod.

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Speaker 3: No, no, we we we already know a Ben who

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Speaker 3: did that experiment or something like you.

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Speaker 4: Know which Ben it is this shall not be named.

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Speaker 4: I do. I like a stormy evening. I like watching

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Speaker 4: it from a protected porch. But man, the other night

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Speaker 4: I was doing that very thing and it got a

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Speaker 4: little like, okay, you better go on inside before we

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Speaker 4: in the Never Never landed Oz. Which one is it

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Speaker 4: that the weather takes you to? Yeah, I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: It's Oz. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Uh. And you know whose world is it? The world

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Speaker 3: is yours, as Nas would say, everybody gets their own

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Speaker 3: personal weather preferences. Uh. You know. I was on the

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Speaker 3: There's nothing quite as I was watching the violent poetry

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Speaker 3: of nature. And I think all of us are old

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Speaker 3: enough to remember when talking about the weather was like

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Speaker 3: this social dog whistle for a boring conversation, for small talk.

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Speaker 4: I like to make my regular dad joke when I

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Speaker 4: picked the kid up and I say, hey, hot enough

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Speaker 4: out there for you. It's just you know, because I'm

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Speaker 2: This happened. I was outside playing my son just earlier

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Speaker 2: today and it was beginning to get super hot, and

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of that episode where Dennis and Mack

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Speaker 4: Storm, Wally, a storm unrelated you guys. Matt in particular,

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Speaker 4: I saw the Instagram algorithm served me up the SNL

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Speaker 4: clip where Christopher walk In plays Ernold Langish and I

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Speaker 4: thought you made that up entirely. I thought that was

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Speaker 4: your bit, and I felt betrayed. No, man, it was

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Speaker 4: very good. No, I think I knew you were lifting

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Speaker 4: it from us and now, but it was very They

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Speaker 4: really go on with that bit. Is that what they

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of Bob Odenkirk's excellent textbook on how

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Speaker 3: humor works. And you have this sort of algorithm where

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Speaker 3: It's froller history. I mean it also now it seems,

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Speaker 3: You know, the science has proven each summer is largely

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Speaker 3: becoming hotter than the last. Normal weather patterns are becoming

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Speaker 3: In tonight's episode, we decided to do something a little different.

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Speaker 3: We're looking into some old school kind of paranormal activity

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Speaker 3: or extraordinary events. We're looking at weather of the past.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get weird with rain. Here are the facts

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Speaker 3: old schoolhouse stuff works. Do you guys want to talk

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Speaker 3: about rain but precipitation, Yeah, condensation, the water cycle, the

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Speaker 3: water cycle. Yeah. Because look for everybody who is hearing

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Speaker 3: this and saying, these three Jabbroni's are out of their

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Speaker 3: necks on this. Sunny days at the beach are the best.

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Speaker 3: The only reason sunny days at the beach are possible

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Speaker 3: is because of rain. The world depends on rainy weather.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, whether you like it you hate it, that's absolutely

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Speaker 4: there and rents and repeats it is. Yes, it is

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Speaker 2: Guys. Imagine how boring Earth would be if water just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so thankfully water is on this weird sisophia and

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Speaker 3: curse situation. You know, we've got to in our notes

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Speaker 4: You might remember from your elementary school or middle school textbooks,

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Speaker 3: It is known, as they used to say in Game

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Speaker 3: asked me about it. We had an episode on plant intelligence,

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Speaker 4: I do remember that, and I do think it's insane

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Speaker 4: the way plants do have an inherent sentience about them.

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Speaker 4: How these things just fricking work. You know, nobody has

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Speaker 3: Well, the plants talk to each other.

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Speaker 4: We know that. What is it those networks of mushrooms underground,

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Speaker 4: and to your point, often made been the closest thing

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Speaker 2: But you know where, you don't find mushrooms in the

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Speaker 3: All of us, super Mario lied to everyone.

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Speaker 4: They also apparently are not found in golden floating bricks

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Speaker 3: And we can say that, we asked the mycologist.

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Speaker 4: He said, we did. So.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is what blows my mind about today's episode.

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Speaker 2: My understanding from those classes when I was a kid

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the water vapor turns into clouds as it's slowly

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Speaker 3: Vapor is not a lone wolf operation. It needs a

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Speaker 3: So this could be anything, because earth is very dirty

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Speaker 2: Some forms of pollution can even do a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of them, some of them, some of them humans

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Speaker 2: This positively laps the humidity, so guys the Okay, So

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Speaker 2: no meteorologist, but that stuff up there isn't that heavy?

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Speaker 4: I'm just picturing a gallon of water making an almond.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just imagining if you were to cut a

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Speaker 2: the where the atmosphere is pushing up against the bottom

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Speaker 2: But it still is kind of baffling to me, just

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Speaker 3: It's super It is objectively a ridiculous thing. Science.

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Speaker 4: It's wild, guys. I recently had a bit of a

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent, that's what we're talking about. With bonding

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there, what is it? There were so many rumors

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Speaker 3: It turns out, yeah, one hundred percent, shout out to

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Speaker 4: I think it's no coincidence that we haven't seen or

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Speaker 4: and uniforms, still possessed tails.

437
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Hmmm, So they were young frogs. Maybe they weren't even

438
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: frogs completely yet to maybe they were still of the

439
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: tadpoling variety. I don't know, you know, yeah, but this stuff,

440
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: this non aqueous rain, So like non water rain, there's

441
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: some weird ones, and there are some that you know,

442
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: a lot of these instances like occurred one time like

443
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: this one, right, this is like a tail of some

444
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: crazy time when some frogs rain down in the seventeen hundreds.

445
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: But there are other instances that occur often, almost like clockwork, predictable.

446
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, even up to four times a year. We've got

447
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: to go to euro Honduras. What a setup, Matt, Because

448
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: this again differentiates from the UFO abduction kind of comparison. Right,

449
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: what if you could predict that at a certain point,

450
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: starting in maybe May or June, there was one town

451
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: that always consistently had UFO sightings, landings, and abductions that's

452
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 3: what's happening with the Juvia de peseses or the let's

453
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: see Aguacero de Pascado, the downpour of fish that happens

454
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: in this place in Honduras, euro Honduras. It's happened for

455
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: more than a century, but less than four hundred years

456
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: as far as we can find, and they lean into it.

457
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 3: They have a huge party in May or June. They

458
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: call it the Festival of the Rain of Fish or

459
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: the Festival of the Downpour of Fish. There's a parade,

460
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: there's a carnival, there are people dressed like fish. It's

461
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: this wholesome LOVECRAFTI and insmith thing, and you gotta go.

462
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: It's a real cloud even a chance of meatballs situation.

463
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, well that's the thing. I mean, you could

464
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: certainly eat the frogs as well, but to some a

465
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: rain of fish that's a that's kind of a bonus.

466
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't gather those suckers up and you

467
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: got your sere eating good for a week.

468
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: Depending on the fish.

469
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: To be fair, the species that I've seen associated with

470
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: this particular place and this downpour is probably not a

471
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: fish that you're gonna want a file at. It's they're

472
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: pretty tiny and not not like baby fish, right if

473
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: you're imagining that. But they're small fish, not a lot

474
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: of meat.

475
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: Up I throwback.

476
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, another clue. I mean, that's the that gets us

477
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: to the main mystery. Right, think about the weight.

478
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: You have thought about the.

479
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: Weight the like. Obviously, frogs and fish are heavier than air.

480
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 3: That's why they don't permanently levitate. They can't evaporate up

481
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: into clouds, and they can't suspend themselves there to you know,

482
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: f a f o and reproduce. So what gives In

483
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: some cases people said, hey, weird rain. This whole phenomenon

484
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: or non aqueous rain as it would later say, it

485
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: is entirely attributable to spiritual causes. The gods are either

486
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: super happy with us or they're super pissed. And now

487
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: we're on non judicial punishment kind of thing.

488
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, what's that movie from the eighties The gods

489
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 4: must be crazy? Yes, I think that that's I think

490
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 4: that offense. But that would be one inference to draw

491
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: from this situation.

492
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, now we kind of we do sort of

493
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: know a little bit about this. If you have ever

494
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: read about the rains of fish and frogs or amphibians

495
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: in particular. Then you have almost certainly read reputable sources

496
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: or heard reputable journalists say that the mystery has been explained,

497
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: as we're going to find that is not entirely true.

498
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an explanation that sounds really solid at

499
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: first glance, especially if you're not a marine biologist, nor

500
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: an oceanologist, nor a meteorologist. Knowing the current theory about

501
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: what could form these incidents also convinces us there's not

502
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: really a way to stop it, nor outside maybe Honduras,

503
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: a way to predict it over the long term. We

504
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: have another clue that comes to us courtesy of a

505
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: French scientist who is famous for some other things. But

506
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: he got he got what we call it, he got

507
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: his chops in. He dropped a hot verse on the discourse.

508
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well this is his theory. Ready quote, Sudden

509
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: gusts of violent wind could lift large groups of frogs

510
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: high into the air, and then when the burst of

511
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: wind dissipated, they would rain back to the ground in

512
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: one swift action. Or that's me adding that in one

513
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: swift action. But that's what that's what this person is imagining.

514
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Let's say a tornado right, or part of a hurricane

515
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: or a water spouch some some thing that causes wind

516
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: to rise upwards rapidly could sweep up a whole bunch

517
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: of frogs, maybe in a little pond, or a bunch

518
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: of fish that are swimming near the surface, and take

519
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: them all the way up in the air and drop

520
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: them right back down.

521
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this reminds me of two I think we talked

522
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 4: about it on a video we did recently, or one

523
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: of our YouTube videos. There was a very down to

524
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: earth scientific explanation for Moses's parting of the Red Sea

525
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: that it was just kind of a very what's the word,

526
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: I guess, serendipitous weather event that created this phenomenon that

527
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: happened to be very very good fortune for Moses and

528
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: the Israelites, but did not necessarily involve Moses waving his

529
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: staff and parting the Red Sea. It was a meteorological anomaly,

530
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: which is I guess what you could call these things

531
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: as well.

532
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, weather used to make history. No humans make weather.

533
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: It's an interesting situation. The French scientists. We're talking about

534
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: this guy named Andre Marie Amber, most notably famous as

535
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: the guy who discovered electromagneticism. He was doing a lot

536
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 3: of stuff. Oh wow, Yeah, that's why we call it

537
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: amps sick. Yeah, also really into frogs. I don't know

538
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: if he ever ate frogs himself. Have you guys ever

539
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: had a good plate of frog?

540
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: Like?

541
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good. I know they get sort of stereotypically

542
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 4: associated with the French, but I believe it is a

543
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: part of traditional French cooking more so than other cultures.

544
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have and it's true. They do taste

545
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: like chicken. Mm hmm.

546
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you cook them right, don't cook them wrong,

547
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: look it up, look up the recipe before you get

548
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: them in the pan.

549
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: And then they taste a little froggy.

550
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Otherwise I was gonna say, is that a dangerous thing?

551
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Is that like undercooking chicken, they.

552
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: Can't taste rubbery and gross and frogs?

553
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing I mean. Also, you know,

554
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: cook your food, etc. Cooker food kids, cook your food kids.

555
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: Our buddy Andre was not far off to get the

556
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: real answer. We have to bust this important misconception, and

557
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: this is the crux of the problem with the theory.

558
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Not all rain is actually rain. In fact, the majority

559
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: of what people are witnessing we could call counterfeit animal rain.

560
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: Imagine you walk outside after a storm. You've had your

561
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: little cozy time on the patio right with some coffee

562
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: or some tea, and then when you get outside you

563
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: see a lot of weird animals laying on the ground,

564
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: a bevy of them, a cavalcade. You would naturally assume

565
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: the animals were dropped by the storm. However, if we

566
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: go back to again an excellent summation by the Library

567
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: of Congress, we see a really good We see a

568
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: really good exploration of what actually occurred in counterfeit animal rate.

569
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: And this is way more on the skeptical side. So

570
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: here we go, ready quote. Because of the popularity and

571
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: mystery surrounding stories about raining animals, some people falsely report

572
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: an animal rainfall after seeing large numbers of worms, frogs,

573
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: birds on the ground after a storm. However, these animals

574
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: did not fall from the sky. Instead, storms fill in

575
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: worm burrows, knock birds from trees and roofs, wash fish

576
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: onto the shores of rivers and ponds, and drive frogs

577
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: and other small animals from their habitats. People who live

578
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: in suburban or urban environments tend to underestimate the number

579
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: of organisms living around their homes. Therefore, they may suspect

580
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: that animals came from the sky rather than from their

581
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: natural habitats. So I see that as a possibility in

582
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: some of these right. That makes a lot of sense

583
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: to me. If you notice a bunch of birds lying

584
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: on the ground dead after a big storm, and we've

585
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: seen that numerous times throughout history, where it's reported, you know,

586
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: in the news, we'll see that pop up on the

587
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: subreddit about news, We'll see it pop up in the

588
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: Guardian other places where the bunch of birds were dead

589
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: after a big storm, or you know, something occurred that

590
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: killed a lot of these birds, they're everywhere. That makes sense.

591
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: The frogs make a ton of sense. We've lived in

592
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: the South. We've seen, like after a big rainstorm or something,

593
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: bunch of frogs are just hanging out. A bunch of

594
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: toads are like out now because of the rains, right,

595
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: but generally they're not all dead, at least in my experience.

596
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: The fish thing only makes sense to me if there

597
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 2: was some kind of minor flooding or something that caused

598
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: enough water or run off or something to like sweep

599
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: over a lawn or a neighborho hood or something and

600
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: then go away relatively quickly to where the fish ended

601
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: up on the lawn somewhere.

602
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

603
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're making a great point, because the fish

604
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: and amphibians, the avians and the amphibians live in a

605
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: liminal space, right. One is sort of in the freeport

606
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: between the land and the sea or the land of water,

607
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: and the other one is in the you know, in

608
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: the terminal between the land and the air. And so

609
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: what looks like animal rain may actually be two distinct phenomena.

610
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: In the first, the animals get moved along the ground

611
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: or they get knocked down off the eaves, often of

612
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: things as we'll see in an etymology joke we're saving

613
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: for the end. And in the second, the one people

614
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: tend to believe most often, these animals, these fish especially

615
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: get sucked up by and we could say they get

616
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: non consensually redistributed together.

617
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: That's again, they get gentrified.

618
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 4: Well, and I mean, you know, like I was saying

619
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: that that that storm that we had here in Atlanta,

620
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: in the Atlanta area the other night, I mean it

621
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: got to a point where it was literally knocking cans

622
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: and all kinds of things over from my you know,

623
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 4: kind of covered porch. I mean it is absolute. They

624
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: call it a force of nature. Anything that's like really

625
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: really strong and unmanageable and completely out of control is

626
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 4: often referred to as being a force of nature. That's

627
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: what we're talking about here.

628
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: But but there are other there are other things that

629
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: have happened where people have witnessed in the recent past,

630
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: things like fish falling from the sky, not just the

631
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: after effects of fish on the ground, but fish falling

632
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: like Australia.

633
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: Yes, like the recent cases in Australia. And we're going

634
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: to dive into or we're going to fall into more

635
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: of that. After a brief word from our sponsors, we

636
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: returned with the actual animal rain theory and the bizarre

637
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: complications surrounding. We've returned the actual animal rain theory, all right.

638
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: The leading thing is this, storms are most often way

639
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: stronger than the average person assumes.

640
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Think about it.

641
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: You're probably not in the clouds during a storm. You

642
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: don't see all the you don't beat me here, Max,

643
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: you'll see all the crazy shit that's going on. We're

644
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: down on the ground, boots on the ground, right, and

645
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: we don't see the terrifying ingredients that are that are

646
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: part of the recipe that can lead to things like

647
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: hurricanes or typhoons and things that can lead to strange rain.

648
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: And this is where we get to what we call

649
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: the tornadic or tornadic waterput theory. Maybe we go to

650
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: the BBC to set us up absolutely.

651
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 4: The BBC puts it thusly. Given strong enough winds in thunderstorms,

652
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Speaker 4: for example, small whirlwinds and many tornadoes may form. When

653
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Speaker 4: these travel over water, any small items of debris in

654
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Speaker 4: their path, which as fish or frogs, may be picked

655
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Speaker 4: up and carried up for several miles, up to several

656
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Speaker 4: miles rather. Greg Carbon of the National Weather Service notes

657
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Speaker 4: that it is possible, especially when you look at the

658
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 4: power of some thunderstorms and tornadoes, because they contain what

659
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Speaker 4: he refers to as a tremendous vertical component. That's the

660
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Speaker 4: wind we're talking about that can suck things up and

661
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: deposit them far from where they were picked up. We've

662
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Speaker 4: all seen Twister the movie. I mean, it carried a cow, y'all,

663
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: a cgi cow. And we're looking forward to Twist Stirs,

664
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Speaker 4: the movie coming soon to a theater near you.

665
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're gonna talk about this, But guys,

666
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: I think tornado is one thing. These in very strong storms,

667
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: even with these wind gusts, with the with some of

668
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: these what do they call them, like small little whirlwinds

669
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Speaker 2: that go up. I still don't see that vertical pressure

670
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: and force digging deep enough within water to even pick

671
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: up frogs and tadpoles and stuff. And maybe that's just

672
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Speaker 2: I can't see it, just because I don't understand.

673
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Speaker 4: Well, there's some experts that would agree with you, and

674
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: they can't see it either. And I do see what

675
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Speaker 4: you're saying. You're talking about those water spouts that occur

676
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Speaker 4: over open water. They would have just enough power to

677
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Speaker 4: kind of sustain themselves, it feels like, and then kind

678
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Speaker 4: of peter out. But I don't anywhere and how love

679
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: far would these things travel? Like, you're not, are they

680
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: gonna shoot them up into the sky? I don't. That

681
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: just doesn't seem like they would have enough outward pressure

682
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: outward to have that kind of trajectory, because it would

683
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Speaker 4: literally require shooting them up into the sky like some

684
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: sort of cannon.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you guys are raising some particularly astute

686
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: points here. I mean, let's look at this. We got

687
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: the gist of this idea. We've been using words like

688
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: possible in theory, but this, you know why, there are

689
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: problems with it. There are significant issues. It may well

690
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: be what's happening multiple times a year out there in Honduras,

691
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 3: but it's not a silver bullet solution by any means.

692
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Speaker 3: This theory does not explain why so many incidents seem

693
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Speaker 3: to have only a single type of animal or species falling.

694
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Speaker 3: It also does not explain, to Matt's earlier point, incidents

695
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Speaker 3: where deep sea animals end up raining on the surface. Further,

696
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: it doesn't explain how these animals could survive the fall

697
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: because gravity is real. Right, if they're dropped, you know,

698
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: from such great heights, to quote whatever Emo song that

699
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: is from, they should thank you. They should be splattity, right,

700
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: I'm using the technical nomenclature. They should not be flipped

701
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: in and flop it in around.

702
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: And in Magnolia they do just that. In the film.

703
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 4: There is some splatting of frogs when they fall in

704
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: that scenario. But in that scenario it almost is meant

705
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: to be like this Deis x Makina that kind of

706
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: guides the plot and it's sort of this like divine intervention.

707
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 4: If you are meant to kind of take it as

708
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Speaker 4: a spiritual occurrence.

709
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, which, and there's nothing wrong with that, because spirituality

710
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: is just a framework people put on the world around

711
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: and within them, you know, So if you choose to

712
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: encounter it that way, then that's perfect that if that

713
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: satisfies you philosophically. I mean the idea that when we

714
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: look at the science tornadic water spouts, tornadoes forming over water,

715
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: this makes sense for some of the cases we're talking

716
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: about because the animals involved or victimized, or often small,

717
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: they're light in weight. There is no record of a

718
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: pod of you know, humpback whales occurring after a storm

719
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Speaker 3: as far as we know, right in conspiracy at iHeartRadio

720
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: dot com if there is a whale rain. But it

721
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Speaker 3: also to your earlier point, Noel, it doesn't explain why

722
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: a water spout could carry fish over long distances with

723
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: that vertical push instead of instantly just throw them out

724
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: in every single direction, like when you hit grass with

725
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: a weed eater.

726
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, guys, I'm imagining the POV

727
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: of a small spangled perch getting sucked sucked up in

728
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: a water spout somewhere near Australia, and you get sucked

729
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: way up in there. But then you think you're just

730
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: gonna fall to the ground, but no, no, no, you

731
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: land in this almost water like soupiness. That is the

732
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: cloud like beginning to rain as it's condensing.

733
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Speaker 3: A cumulo nimbus it.

734
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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, do you think the do you think the

735
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: fish could swim around in that like that liminal space

736
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: for just a moment before it fell again?

737
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Speaker 3: I hope. So that's beautiful because then if a fish,

738
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 3: if the right fish goes up and then comes down successfully,

739
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: then we have our UFO story. Right then you have

740
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: our fish profit in our religion, there's another ocean.

741
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: Ye swim with me.

742
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: But that's a that is a okay, that is a

743
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: myth making concept from a real story that happened in

744
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: March twenty ten where apparently in this small Australian outback town,

745
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: a bunch of fish, the spangled perch, we're falling from

746
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: the sky and it was witnessed by multiple people who

747
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 2: live in that town. There's only six hundred and fifty

748
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: residents there, but they watched the fish falling, so it

749
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: wasn't they discovered the fish dead. Afterwards, they saw those

750
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: fish falling down and Here's a quote. Here's a quote

751
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: for somebody who was there. When I told my family,

752
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: who live in another part of Australia about the fish

753
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: falling from the sky, they thought I'd lost the plot.

754
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: But no, I haven't lost my marbles. All I can

755
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: say is that I'm thankful it didn't rain crocodiles.

756
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and didn't you say perch, Matt, I mean.

757
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: The spangled perch. They're very tiny.

758
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna say perch is good eats? Right,

759
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: it can be, but I guess I'm sorry. I don't

760
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: know why I'm leaning so hard on this being some

761
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: sort of like loaves and fishes gift from God kind

762
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: of situation.

763
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which would be amazing. And also, if you

764
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: have to, you can eat to survive many fish that

765
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: are not tasty. It's kind of like eating a fox

766
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: or crow. It's not ideal, but you know, get to tomorrow.

767
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if they are a little splatted.

768
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Even if they're a little splatty. You know, some people

769
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: pay for that, Like whenever you help a friend move,

770
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: just remember that a lot of people pay to go

771
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: to the gym.

772
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: So that's right, which is pre splatted for your eating pleasure?

773
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: We are also going to start a pop up animal

774
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: rain food truck. There's a lot of travel involved. Our

775
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: hours are weird, but we'll give you a deal.

776
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: Well what wait. We work with NASA and they help

777
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: us make a water spout generating machine. That machine sends

778
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: the small fish that we form into the air. They

779
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: pre splat cook them up for you.

780
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: Frog special.

781
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: You could be Korean barbecue style and you gotta find

782
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: your own pick the way you want and then cook

783
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: it your damnself and pay us for the privilege.

784
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: Dang, did you have a bad KBBQ? No, no situation.

785
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: I like Korea barbecue.

786
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: He did. My son almost died on some deliciousness.

787
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: It's also very expensive for I mean, you could just

788
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 4: buy a bunch of meat and cook it at home.

789
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 4: I mean I do like the butther of the banchan

790
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: there on the side, it's the cheesecorn. There's there's some

791
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: things that are good about it, for sure.

792
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: If you guys want to hang out off air, there

793
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: are a few low key spots in town that are

794
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: not gonna rip us off.

795
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, And did you guys hear there's a

796
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: new sister location of Northern China eatery that's opening in

797
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: man and downtown or closer to us than Beford Highway.

798
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: It's called the Dumpling Factory. Look it up, y'all. If

799
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: you know, you know, good stuff.

800
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: If you know you know. And this returns us to

801
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: the theory of animal rain, and a lot of skeptics,

802
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: surprisingly enough, very science forward skeptics are saying, if you

803
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: know this theory, then you know it's bs a couple

804
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: of them. How surprising is this will even tell you

805
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: that animal rain in andend of itself is a conspiracy

806
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: theory and does not exist as the theory is commonly propagated.

807
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: Let's go to Skeptoid with Brian Dunning. He says the following,

808
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: and he's got a great article or podcast about the

809
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: problems with the physics and the meteorology evolved with this

810
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: idea of tornadoes and water spouts. He says, quote, the

811
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: decreased air pressure inside a tornadic water spout can actually

812
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: raise the water level by as much as half a meter,

813
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: but the water itself is not sucked up inside. The

814
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: visible column of a water spout is made up of

815
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: condensation and is transparent. The high winds will kick up

816
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 3: a lot of spray from wavelets fun word on the surface,

817
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: but if you look at pictures of water spouts, you'll

818
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: see that this spray is thrown outward, not sucked inward

819
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: and up. So this all leads into conclude that water spouts,

820
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: quote simply, do not have any mechanism by which they

821
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: might reach down into the water, collect objects and then

822
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: transport them upward into the sky. But he wrote that

823
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: to me, he wrote that before the Australian stuff.

824
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well there's also Tempico, Mexico, where it happened

825
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. Who knows, But I do agree with this.

826
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean that assessment is pretty astute there, especially if

827
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: that is true the mechanism of sending the force sending

828
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: things outward rather than up and especially well, now hold on,

829
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: hold on, what if it's an up and out scenario

830
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: where they're just flinging them so instead of sending.

831
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: A great glass elevator.

832
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: Because if there was a body of water close enough

833
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: to one of these smaller towns that has you know,

834
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: a bunch of frogs in it or something like that,

835
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: that water spout could just toss them into town.

836
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: Which goes back to the thing our our French pal

837
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: Andre pointed out much earlier, right, he was the first

838
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: we missed this part. He was the first person in

839
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: recorded Western history to compare the seasonal propagation of amphibians

840
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: with the subsequent weird rain episodes. So things like this,

841
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: some sort of weather phenomenon may be happening at a

842
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: frequency that humans are not aware of, and it only

843
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: appears to be weird animal rain when the other conditions

844
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: are right, sort of like when planets aligned, or a

845
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: ven diagram, or an example of a third thing because

846
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: I like the rule of thirds.

847
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I've got a third thing for you. I've

848
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: got a little theory, guys. Submerged objects, unidentified submerged objects.

849
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Speaker 2: We have speculated about these trans medium things for a

850
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: long time on this show, and the world is really

851
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: getting into them right now. What if the way that

852
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: some of these trans medium objects function, especially the larger ones,

853
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: is to create that distortion field around them, that is

854
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: theorized that would allow a ship that is made of

855
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: either metal or you know, other things and a ton

856
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: of energy can move from air into water with no

857
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: problem and back out again. What if that thing, whatever

858
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: that energy field is, that it creates is some kind

859
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: of stasis thing that could let's say, trap a whole

860
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: bunch of perch inside of it. Then as it travels

861
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: up into the air out of the water, it's and

862
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: then it's flying over some other place that that whatever

863
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: that distortion field is that's being used to travel is

864
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: no longer needed. It shuts down all them fish fall

865
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Speaker 2: out the sky.

866
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Speaker 3: Love it well done, Greenlit. Yeah, I'm somewhat joking, But

867
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: at the same time I was.

868
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: I actually could see an image of that occurring, even

869
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: though it's all speculative and not real.

870
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It depends because there's no proof

871
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: that that's not what's happening, right.

872
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just like the image.

873
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: I want to believe the truth is out there. Oh

874
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: this is so this. This is such a weird pickle,

875
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: though I like it should not for nothing is Matt's

876
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: theory on this pretty solid. You can't prove it's not true, right,

877
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where people are at with the

878
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: idea of raining fish. We didn't even get to it.

879
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: There are going to be future episodes because it turns out,

880
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: even though we kept this contained to fish and amphibians, right,

881
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: there are many other weird rains out there. I can't

882
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: wait for our episode on Star Jelly, but we do

883
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: owe a shout out to the amazing author Cynthia Barnett,

884
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: who wrote Rain, a natural and cultural history. You guys know,

885
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: longtime listeners, we love books about cartoonishly specific things, you know.

886
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're interested in i'd sort of tease

887
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 4: the Great Kentucky meat Shower. Earlier in the episode. There

888
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: is an episode of Ridiculous History on the time that

889
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 4: gobbits of rotten meat rained down on the good people

890
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: of Kentucky.

891
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: They know what they did.

892
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: You're talking about the Olympia Springs incident.

893
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: Eighteen seventy six. Yeah, also Kentucky meat shower. We're particularly

894
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 3: in love with that because it sounds like a weird euphemism.

895
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: M hm. It really like a move, you know what

896
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: I mean?

897
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a move. It's a move or a noise band.

898
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: Perhaps that'd be good.

899
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or you know, if you put the time stamp

900
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: on it, eighteen seventy six, Kentucky meat shower could be

901
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: something that God speed your you Black Emperor would write exactly, Yeah,

902
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: maybe seventeen minutes long. There would be drums there would

903
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: be percussion at the last four minutes.

904
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: Right yeah, and then just like a field recording with

905
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: somebody ranting about how the government is out to get

906
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: us all.

907
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. It could also just be somebody in Kentucky standing

908
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: on the edge of a building saving so much.

909
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: Money on their water built as well. You know how

910
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: I save money of big water. I just shower in

911
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: the meat.

912
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: I thought he was urinating off the side of the building.

913
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 4: But that's not me, that's juice.

914
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: Well, it is a meat, humane human audjue.

915
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: Jesus so released from his meat, is what I was saying.

916
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, we want to fit perfect, we want to

917
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: finish the shout out. We were trying to get to

918
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: a Cynthia Barnett rain and natural and cultural history, she notes,

919
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: and then later goes on to prove that there are

920
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: many different non fish, nonoqueous, non frog, or non amphibian

921
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: rains reported over history. Hey, snakes, maggots, seeds, nuts, stones,

922
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: shredded meat. It goes on and odd and on. We're

923
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: gonna save some of this for future episodes, particularly star Jelly.

924
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, get thee to our pere podcast, Pardiculous History.

925
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: Check out the meat story the meat shower story because

926
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: we do solve it.

927
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Did you guys talk about the spider

928
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: rain in Australia and like how that works?

929
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: Spider rains in the meat chower?

930
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 4: We did. I don't know about this one, but I

931
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: actually think maybe there might be a future episode in

932
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: the works for this and or ridiculous history about just

933
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: a lot of these different when it rained weird stories.

934
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: Well, this is definitely a when it happens because it's

935
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: pretty frequent, kind of like that one town in Honduras.

936
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: But spider rains. Look up mass ballooning events and if

937
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: you don't like spiders, you will not like what you find,

938
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: but it will be a fun thing to share with

939
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: other people, you know who don't like spiders.

940
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: If you don't like spiders, no judgment, but as a representative,

941
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: I do ask you to acknowledge the fundamental role that

942
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 3: spiders play in the human ecosystem. Not all bad. It's

943
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 3: not all bad. There's so many spider stereotypes out there. Okay,

944
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: we're just gonna let us sit in that way.

945
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: I think, Well, I you know, there are a ton

946
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: of spiders outside my house right now, and they are

947
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: catching a lot of the mosquitos and other little creatures

948
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: that I do not like so much. So yeah, thanks guys.

949
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: Better the devil, you know, they say, We also know

950
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: weird rain is still a thing, like it's a group

951
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: term for a lot of different phenomenon, right, But it's

952
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: going to continue. And at the very least, if you

953
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: want to be skeptical, or if you agree with the

954
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: skeptics who reject the water spout idea, then you can

955
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: say that at the very least, people will continue to

956
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: believe they have witnessed adimal rain. I really appreciate you,

957
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: Matt for pointing out that there are witnesses in recent years,

958
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: particularly in Australia, who are saying, no, we didn't just

959
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 3: walk out and see fish on the ground, we watched

960
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: them fall from the heavens. I think the best way

961
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: for us to end tonight's episode is to ask our

962
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realists for help. If you have ever witnessed strange,

963
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 3: non aqueous rain weird rain, tell us right in with

964
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: your stories. We want to know one what you saw,

965
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: two when and where, And most importantly, we want to

966
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: know if you actually witnessed strange things falling from the

967
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: sky versus finding them afterward. We're super excited to hear

968
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: your stories for sure.

969
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: Oh guys, what if it's what if we were going

970
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: to stay in the Kobyashi Maru like Star Trek World.

971
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: Here it's a transporter room and they've got a bunch

972
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: of frogs or small fish that they're trying to get somewhere,

973
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: and they just put in the cord and it's wrong

974
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: and it just ended up over at Tempego, Mexico.

975
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: Well, that engineer is fired. But then also, you know,

976
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: what if the transporter only works underwater and you have

977
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: to have a big enough distortion field that you know

978
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 3: some of the fish are going to have to go.

979
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: With Ah, I don't know, man.

980
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 3: Well, you know important journalism. We can't wait to hear

981
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: your thoughts.

982
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh.

983
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: The last thing we have to say before we get

984
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 3: in tonight's exploration. We are thankfully pretty sure that raining

985
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: cats and dogs is just a figure of speech. Looking

986
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: into the etymology, it seems that it comes from the

987
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: Victorian era of Europe, when dogs or and or cats

988
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: small domestic mammals would be on rooftops or on second

989
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: floors the eaves of buildings and the downpours the deluges

990
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: would be so powerful that they would knock these animals

991
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: off the building.

992
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: It's sort of like everything but the kitchen sink.

993
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: You know.

994
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: This is this idea of being the most, being very extra.

995
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I guess it's a little bit better.

996
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: We should be thankful to this language that they didn't

997
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: say it's raining, you know, orphans and hoboes, because those

998
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: poor guys probably got knocked off the eaves as well

999
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: when the rain got too powerful. Anyway, let us know

1000
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,000
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1001
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,680
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1002
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1003
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1008
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Speaker 2: Imagine how elated the stray cats would be if one

1009
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: of these fish rings or frog greens happened.

1010
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1011
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1019
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