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Speaker 2: Jeff is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by BBE. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to see if we can figure out why he's

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Speaker 2: getting ghosted in just a second. But first, Jeff, how

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Speaker 2: long has it been since you heard from BIB.

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Speaker 3: It's been a couple of weeks, not for sure, maybe

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Speaker 3: close some months at this point.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, So in that time, how many times did

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Speaker 4: you try to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: Almost once a week? But then I you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: just scared of pushing it too much. Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 3: of will just keep reaching out to her, but I'm

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Speaker 3: containing myself.

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Speaker 1: Why do you still want to try to get a

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Speaker 1: hold of her? But it's already been a.

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Speaker 3: Month because I can't thinking about her?

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Speaker 1: You can't stop thinking about her? You really liked her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you like so much about her?

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Speaker 3: She was It hasn't happened to me too many times before,

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Speaker 3: but she was so pretty and even smarter than what

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Speaker 3: I thought she would have been initially. And that's just Yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Upset, Alicia, And you know what you're honest about it.

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 4: So what was it like when you spent time with her?

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Speaker 4: Did she seem like she was into you? Why don't

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Speaker 4: you just go back and tell us about how you

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Speaker 4: met in your date?

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Speaker 3: I mean pretty much it was. It wasn't the craziest story.

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Speaker 3: We were at a bookstore and we were just happening

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Speaker 3: to sit next to each other reading our own books.

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Speaker 3: And I saw what she was reading and she kind

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Speaker 3: board games, you know, some very casual or it wasn't anything nice,

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Speaker 3: and we did. She she accepted. We had a great time.

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Speaker 3: We just connected. The food was great, our conversation was

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Speaker 3: even better. We hugged it out. I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: I thought, and that's it. Ghosted right after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you go to a bar to play board.

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Speaker 3: Games or yeah? It was a very casual like bar,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, was it anything happened during the date, like, were

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Speaker 1: Was there like any moment where you kind of argued?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, look, no arguing, but you know, it's

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Speaker 3: just like playful competition. I mean, she really beat the

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Speaker 3: And I feel like, maybe I don't know now thinking

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Speaker 3: I really don't know.

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Speaker 2: Why would she think you're not as smartest her? Do

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Speaker 2: you do you or do you not think you're a smartest?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I'm not. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: calling myself dumb. It's just yeah, you know what did you?

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Speaker 1: Guys talk about.

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Speaker 3: Everything and anything from life experiences to we went down

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Speaker 1: Politics, physics, WHOA the first date? WHOA that.

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Speaker 3: I was starting to get sweaty to me.

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Speaker 1: Too thinking about both of those.

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Speaker 3: Things, and yeah, that's pretty much where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Was there anything awkward that happened on the date at all?

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Speaker 3: Not to my knowledge, No, did.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like she was into like during the date,

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Speaker 4: I mean, since it felt like everything was going great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, you know, yeah, like we were like

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Speaker 3: We we just hugged it out. We hugged it out

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Speaker 3: I had I had told her on it here yet

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Speaker 1: Were one hundred percent sure. She's single to.

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Speaker 3: My knowledge yet. Now if she's in some sort of

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Speaker 1: But of course, yeah, just curious at the.

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Speaker 3: Time we have we both found out we haven't been

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Speaker 3: dating for a while. I mean, we're really looking okay, okay, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we'll see if we can figure it out for

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Speaker 2: you a play a song, come back, and then call

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Speaker 2: her and see she tells us why she's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you, Okay, well play.

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Speaker 2: Song, come back, and get your first day follow up

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Speaker 2: next if you're just joining us. Jeff is on the

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Speaker 2: phone for a first day follow up and he's getting

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Speaker 2: ghosted by Bbe. So we're about to call her and

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Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting and maybe

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Speaker 2: get him another date if he still wants one after

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Speaker 2: here's the reason. But before we do that, Jeff, why

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Speaker 2: don't you catch everybody up on your date with Bib.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much, we had a very unplanned first encounter at

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Speaker 3: a book shop. We were just sitting next to each other,

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Speaker 3: how to have started having some small talk, invited for

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Speaker 3: a dinner tip together. We had a great dinner, We

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Speaker 3: had a great conversation. Then we went to one of

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Speaker 3: wiped me out. She's very beautiful, she believe and smarter.

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Speaker 3: And the last month I would say it's I've been

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Speaker 3: texting her, and yeah, i've been. I've been ghosted, heavily ghosted.

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Speaker 1: It feels fishy. Are you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Let's go?

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go? I may I speak to BB. Please?

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Speaker 1: It's HIBB. How are you?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jubil and ho's the radio show and

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Speaker 2: it's called the Jubil Show BB.

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Speaker 1: The whole show is here with Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 1: Super fun to say, Bbe, I know it is. I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't help himself.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't believe it. Am I on

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Speaker 3: the radio right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We do a segment on our show and it's called

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Speaker 1: the first Date follow Up.

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Speaker 2: That's where if you go out on a date with

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Speaker 2: somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that person

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Speaker 2: ask why you're ghosting them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I've I've heard this one before. Oh nice, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I know what this is about.

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Speaker 1: That makes it? You want to take a guess? See

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Speaker 1: if you're right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Jeff right.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations. So we honestly like he's a really nice guy.

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Speaker 5: He's actually smarter than he gives himself credit for. He

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Speaker 5: But so we went to this board game bar and

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Speaker 3: And I was just like, whoa where he's like just

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you for being honest, Mabe.

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Speaker 3: Visage What what? That drove me crazy during our whole

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Speaker 3: This was the word that I couldn't figure out during

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Speaker 3: It, Jeff, I mean, and then her on the other line.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot going on right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Visage a person's face with reference to the form of proportion,

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Speaker 2: proportions of the features. Oh, so you have an elegant

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Speaker 1: Interesting, none of those a word. Thank you for teaching

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Speaker 3: Uh, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you sound really upset.

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Speaker 3: It's not sad. I just you know, I just didn't

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Speaker 3: It kind of hurts to listen to her say that, Well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's also an opportunity to kind of open your

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Speaker 3: No, I disagree with you. I'm sorry, But with all

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Speaker 3: due respect, if I did a bad job, I will

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Speaker 3: tell myself I did a bad job. I'll give myself credit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you ever give yourself credit.

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Speaker 3: When the job is done? Well?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, okay, Okay, I mean I appreciate the self awareness.

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Speaker 3: I will say that it does sound like you're still

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Speaker 3: like dating yourself up. Well, look, it's unacceptable. I knew

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Speaker 3: that word. I know it sounds kind of dumb to

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Speaker 3: being so angry about it, But when you know something

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Speaker 3: and you don't know about it in a certain moment,

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Speaker 3: of course it's gonna piss you off. And it did

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Speaker 3: at the time. It was kind of inconvenient. I could

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Speaker 3: have not known about that word at a dinner, but no,

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Speaker 3: I had it happen during a game with a girl

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Speaker 3: I really liked, you know. Oh yeah, And I swear

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Speaker 3: I'm going to sound like a nut right now, but

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Speaker 3: every morning I've been writing that we're down a hundred times,

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Speaker 3: so I don't forget it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, I guess that's sweet.

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Speaker 3: Oh I oh, that's robastic. Let's go on a second date.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to go out with Jeff again on

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Speaker 1: another date? We'll pay for it, babe.

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Speaker 5: Ummm, I'm not gonna lie like the whole lack of

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Speaker 5: self control, like I've gone out with guys who I

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Speaker 5: have that and it's not great. But I do appreciate

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Speaker 5: someone who has a affinity for vocabulary words.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, sure, we're still on one more day and

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Speaker 3: it's a free dinner, forget about it. Even if you

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Speaker 3: hit my guts and I hit yours, we could just

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Speaker 3: not talk to each other. And it's the most expected

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Speaker 3: thing on the menu.

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Speaker 1: So okay. So congratulations, Jeff, you got another date. You

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Speaker 1: will first date fall up.