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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is Matt Williams, and

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Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And as

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Speaker 2: he does on a regular basis, Dan Hansis from NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com put out his power rankings and we all

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Speaker 2: typically go over those on a pretty regular basis, do

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Speaker 2: it all the time during the regular season, and we

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Speaker 2: do it at different points during the off season when

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Speaker 2: he releases something here, and so post draft is a

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Speaker 2: good time to kind of reassess things here. And so

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Speaker 2: let's take a look at what Hans has on NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com and see where he brings the Steelers in

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Speaker 2: at in terms of the hierarchy in the NFL. We

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Speaker 2: talked a little bit about that in the previous segment.

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Speaker 2: Looking here, as we always do, we start at the

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Speaker 2: bottom and work our way up at thirty two holding steady,

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Speaker 2: are the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: That being said, they would be my thirty two or

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Speaker 3: I'm just pulling up now so I didn't look them in.

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Speaker 3: The rams to me are really really bad, But I

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Speaker 3: give the Cardinals a lot of credit. Not only did

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Speaker 3: they end up with Houston's first round pick next year,

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Speaker 3: but they also have their third. I think they picked

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Speaker 3: up another second in the meantime, like they have a

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Speaker 3: ton for next draft.

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Speaker 2: I think they knew. They came to the realization of

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Speaker 2: who they are. Yeah yeah, yeah, new head coach. They

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Speaker 2: know Kyler Murray's gonna miss the first at least month

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Speaker 2: of next season. Like, hey, guys, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: win this. You know in twenty twenty three, Let's build

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Speaker 2: for next year.

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Speaker 3: If we get our left tackle and you know, a

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Speaker 3: bunch of picks for next year will be in good shit,

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Speaker 3: probably pick really early again next year. It could be

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Speaker 3: a two year build, but have the resources to do it.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing is that they did go and get

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. No hard, no, I'm sorry, I confusing them

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Speaker 2: They mid rounds, but yeah, yeah, at thirty one down

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Speaker 2: a spot are the Houston Texans. They did go get

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. And there was there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk that, oh, they won't take c. J. Stroud. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't believe that for a second. You couldn't go

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Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty three season with the same quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: that you had on the roster again last year.

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Speaker 3: See, I probably would have them higher than thirty one.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned the Rams, but just analyzing their draft, Anderson

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Speaker 3: and Stroud great, you know, they put those guys on

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Speaker 3: the billboards. That's the face of the defense, that's the

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Speaker 3: face of the offense. But I don't think it's exactly

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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck and Lawrence Taylor, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like they're really good prospects, but they're not a plus

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Speaker 3: home run swings. And where I'm going with this is

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Speaker 3: they gave up so much to make that happen that

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it was a smart.

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Speaker 2: Move giving up a first round draft pick next year,

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Speaker 2: right to come up and get Anderson. Anderson's, as you said,

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Speaker 2: it's a fine prospect. But you're telling me at twelve

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Speaker 2: they couldn't have gotten somebody.

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Speaker 3: And this, Yeah, yeah, or whoever? Right, I No way

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Speaker 3: am I giving up my first round pick next year

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Texans, who you know aren't going to

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Speaker 3: be good, you know, and they had the most draft

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Speaker 3: capital in this draft of anyone in the league. So

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Speaker 3: you're giving up your pick next year? And I know

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Speaker 3: they have the Browns first rounder, but that would have

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Speaker 3: been one thing that was off the table. We are

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Speaker 3: not giving up the Texans first round pick in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, no matter what. If we can't strike a deal,

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Speaker 3: then to be it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, if they'd have moved up to

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Speaker 2: number nine and taken Jalen Carter right it cost him

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Speaker 2: that would have made more sense.

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Speaker 3: Would have made more sense. And I didn't love their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirty down a spot are the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: That's rough.

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Speaker 3: I think they're a quality team. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: they're a five hundred type team.

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Speaker 2: but in that division, I mean they're the fourth team.

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Speaker 2: At twenty nine, down five spots, Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be rough. I mean, I'd rather Washington's quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. But some of the some

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Speaker 2: of the position, you know, some of the Ancillaries aren't bad, no, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, Evan Godwin and Vea and Worfs and they

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Speaker 3: have some dudes. They have a lot more dudes than

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Speaker 3: the Rams. I don't know why the Rams haven't been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think they should be well

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Speaker 2: much lower than where they're at because they're not at

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Speaker 3: I did like their draft. You know, last time we

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Colts are contender, so they didn't

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Speaker 3: come up. But they drafted a lot of athletes, a

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Speaker 3: lot of big dudes that can run and also Downs

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Speaker 3: who was the only one that doesn't didn't really qualify there.

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Speaker 3: But I think they did well this weekend.

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Speaker 2: At twenty seven, down two spots the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Can the Colts win the South? No, that's it's such

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Speaker 3: a bad division.

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Speaker 2: Though. It's such a bad division. But I just don't

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Speaker 2: see it. I still think that they're just kinda put

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Speaker 2: it this way. If they lose a few games and they,

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Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, they do they turn

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Speaker 2: things over from from Gardner Minshew to Anthony Richardson. He's

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Speaker 3: I just they're hard to play against though. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have to complete a high percentage of his

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Speaker 2: That's all well and good, but at some point you

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Speaker 2: need something that you can do foundationally.

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Speaker 3: Oh big picture, Yeah, I mean I think he could

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Speaker 3: they win nine games and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe of them win nine games with that roster. That

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Speaker 2: was a bad, bad roster last year.

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Speaker 3: Oh it was idious part of it though, was Matt

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos at twenty seven they only had five draft picks.

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Speaker 2: They had yet another wide receiver in the second round.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: Do they have a deal in place maybe for a

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Speaker 2: Well, they picked up the fifty year option on Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 2: everybody thinks, well, just adding Sean Payton to that is

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Speaker 2: going to fix everything. I don't think they're a very

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're a very good team. And they

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Speaker 3: have quarterback problems obviously, j Anty Williams. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it ever's going to be the same either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, at twenty six, holding steady the Chicago Bears, I.

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Speaker 3: Think i'd have them even lower. I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: they've added a lot, but it's a lot of rookies,

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Speaker 3: and that defense is going to be bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean even that, the guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: the TA They take Darnell right at ten, which was

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Speaker 2: kind of of a surprise. Their second round pick was

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Speaker 2: Gervin Dexter, who is a bit of a project.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they took two of them. Him and the South

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Speaker 3: care Pickens. They're both like almost the same guy. They're

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Speaker 3: both like five star recruits that never really understood or

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Speaker 3: haven't really developed the finer points of the position. They're

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Speaker 3: both kind of finessey long type dudes. I think the

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Speaker 3: defense is going to be littered with those type of guys,

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Speaker 3: third round rookies in there. The offense kind of, like

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Speaker 3: my Colt's point, I think will be hard to play against.

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Speaker 3: I don't know it'll be a precise passing game or

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Speaker 3: anything like that, but I just think the defense is

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Speaker 3: going to leverage points or hemorrhage points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty five down seven spots to Carolina Panthers, I.

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Speaker 3: Would have them low too. I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 3: just gonna be a learning year. It might be a

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be an important year, it might be a

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Speaker 3: promising year, something that it's gonna be a fruitful year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Rookie quarterbacks, yeah, you know that

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Speaker 2: don't have a lot around them, tend to struggle a

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Speaker 2: little bit. And you know they added Jonathan Mingo in

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Speaker 3: Right, what are you going to get out of and

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Speaker 3: then those type of dudes too, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah at twenty four up four spots the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 2: I don't see I'm sorry, I don't see it. I

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Speaker 2: think they're going to be awful.

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Speaker 3: I think they're bottom five. Many teams we've mentioned, certainly

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Speaker 3: got a team like Washington I think is a clear

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Speaker 3: favorite over the Titans right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, adding Peter Skearansky and Will

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Speaker 2: Levis screams tomorrow we're playing. We're playing for next year,

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Speaker 2: not this year.

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Speaker 3: Now, you maybe have three of your five offensive line

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Speaker 3: spots fixed, but the other two aren't there. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not even being kind there. And yeah, the quarterback situation

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Speaker 2: I think I saw something that somebody put tweeted this

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Speaker 2: out that Derrick Henry and Ryan tanney Hill account for

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Speaker 2: sixty of the titans sary offensive salary app this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that doesn't shock me. I mean, the more you

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Speaker 3: think about it, it's Burks and scarronsky and cheap dudes. Wow.

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Speaker 3: But it also tells you something like if they thought

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Speaker 3: they were a contender or we're thinking, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: in this for a while. You could have restructured both

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Speaker 3: of those deals. They're just gonna take the jab to

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Speaker 3: the face. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, eat

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Speaker 3: it and get them out the door because they're not

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Speaker 3: they know they're not gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: At twenty three, up four spots the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: That's about where i'd have them. I mean, do I

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Speaker 3: love rit or No, But I think the offense is

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Speaker 3: going to be hard to play against. They got weapons everywhere,

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Speaker 3: and I really like the uh the Sarah bergeron. I

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Speaker 3: mean they were one lineman short. He's gonna start out

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Speaker 3: a guard maybe you know, maybe moves to tackle. They're

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Speaker 3: gonna run the ball down your throats. Defense is a

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Speaker 3: little better than it was last year. At least they're

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Speaker 3: trending the right, the right.

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Speaker 3: Not even close, right right, I mean they could be contender.

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Speaker 2: At twenty holding steady. We finally get to the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I urge people. I say this all the time. Go

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Speaker 2: I had the Browns ahead of them. I had the

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Speaker 3: Right And I think there's much more round Picket than

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Speaker 2: They took two tight ends in the top three rounds.

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Speaker 2: In the top three rounds. Where are they gonna get?

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Speaker 2: They're gonna run the Ravens offense.

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Speaker 3: They're middle of the road. I think that's fine.

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Speaker 2: you know there's mediocres could be which probably wins the

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Speaker 3: I'd be lower on them too, Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 2: Are the Patriots better than the Browns?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Patriots, If the Patriots head coach right

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Speaker 2: And I think Belichick, whether people want to admit it

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Speaker 3: The results aren't there, that's for sure. And the drafts

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Speaker 3: for a while now, the off seasons to me have

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the one thing that never would have happened, and

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Speaker 2: Can Well, they go out this year and they draft

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Speaker 3: I would have them ahead of the Saints, but I

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Speaker 2: I do think Jordan Addison will come in and help

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Speaker 2: to get single coverage. Yeah, you know, so he'll catch

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Speaker 2: the boss. He might be he might be the offensive

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Jon sc Or, one of the Tunnies,

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Speaker 3: Because I almost said the same thing I was about

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Speaker 3: Addison more for fantasy than I did pre draft as

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Speaker 3: Because we're out running in a dome and you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At fifteen are the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I get it, holding a steady We're obviously a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Let's see who, if who, if

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Speaker 2: anybody we'd have ahead of them on here. Well, fourteen

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Speaker 2: down two spots is the Giants. I'm sorry. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Giants are just fortunate to play in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, honestly, the Giants in Washington are like

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying the Giants. At thirteen down five spots

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Speaker 3: Tough one. See, I think that offensive coaching change might

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Speaker 2: But I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm not a killing More

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Speaker 3: I say anything better.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I won't fight you on that. I just thought they

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Speaker 3: I would never put a chip down for that organization

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the other point is I'm done trusting

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they just never do.

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Speaker 2: At twelve up two spots are the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: I would have the Steelers over the Seahawks, but in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're in that same grouping. And again

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. I think Gina might turn into a pumpkin.

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden it's like, well, maybe

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Speaker 3: we should have drafted someone at five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you know they didn't. I mean they added

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Speaker 3: I didn't love their draft after that sharbone they used

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Speaker 2: It was a very Seahawks like draft. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: The first two are fine, but I was shocking. Neither

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Speaker 3: I love Smith and a Jigba, but I thought someone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at eleven are the Lions.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to fight him here. I mean the

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Speaker 2: There, Like, here's my very good here's here's my problem

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Speaker 2: You know, if you lose a couple at home and

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Speaker 3: So I was about to say, I don't think Jared

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Speaker 2: He hasn't shown himself to be that guy. I mean right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: turn into a beautiful flower either. Yeah, right, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: You're happy with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At ten or the Dolphins, they could win the

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Speaker 3: If their quarterback plays twenty one games, right, and boy

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Speaker 3: that scares me, but they have a really good roster.

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Speaker 2: I think it scares the quarterback. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: At nine are the Jets, I.

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Speaker 3: Think we've had this conversation didn't really come to a

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Speaker 3: Here I am, Yeah, I'm the man.

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Speaker 2: At the work. Yeah, I'm the guy let's get the work.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, I would have both over the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: At number eight is the Jaguars. I am not sold

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Speaker 3: PLEXI last principle, take a giant step forward and you

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Speaker 3: almost take a baby step back.

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Speaker 2: Because who are your veteran guys that you're counting on

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is it Cam Robinson because he's going to be suspended

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Speaker 2: like that make a difference.

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Speaker 3: I mean everyone could, but a Cam Hayward or kalay

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Speaker 3: Is Campbell. You know, they should brought lay As Campbell back,

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Speaker 3: you know, somebody like that. It's one a lot of

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Speaker 3: games that can stabilize things. Maybe isn't as good as

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Speaker 3: he used to be, you know.

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Speaker 2: But he's that voice in the locker room that everybody

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Speaker 2: listens to. Yeah, I mean it's scary, dude, you know

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Speaker 2: that knows what he's doing. Their offense might be quite good,

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Speaker 2: but that's another organization it's not easy to trust. Right

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Speaker 2: at seven up six spots? Are the Ravens now he

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Speaker 2: bumped them down because of the Lamar situation? Are the

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Speaker 2: Ravens the seventh best team in the league? No, I

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Speaker 2: would think so either. I think they're in that. I

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Speaker 2: think they're in that group with everybody else.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they're better than Steelers. Like I

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Speaker 3: would definitely have the Bengals as the best team of

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Speaker 3: the division. I would have the Browns as the fourth

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Speaker 3: team of the division. Steelers, Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a conversation, It really is, because the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have been the Steelers have been Lamar's kryptonite.

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Speaker 3: I think the Steelers are the more physical team and

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought that for a little while. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think they're better in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: They're deeper their offense. I think their offensive line might

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Speaker 2: be better than Baltimore, will be better than Baltimore's. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, And I think they're better on the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Me too, me too.

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Speaker 2: Uh. At six are the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I can figure it out off my head,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not sure there's five better teams in the

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Speaker 3: league than the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I think these top six stand on their own. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then the other team, I think there's a I

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Speaker 2: think there's a line of delineation here. Mm hm. At

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Speaker 2: five or the forty nine ers, and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: actually I don't. I think they Yeah, I know that

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers are in that group.

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Speaker 3: I'd go back to the Jets and Dolphins. I think

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Speaker 3: you have to put those guys over the Niners on

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Speaker 3: May first. Maybe in training camp heard he's out there

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Speaker 3: slinging it or lances out there. I mean, who's a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: But hey, they got themselves a kicker with the ninety

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Speaker 2: ninth pick in the draft. What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh? At four are the Bills. Yes. At three are

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. Yeah, but what's a conversation. Yeah, at two

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Speaker 2: are the Eagles and one are the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Are either of the Super Bowl teams better now than

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Speaker 3: they were last year?

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Speaker 2: I think the Eagles might be.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles might be. They lost a lot, but they

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Speaker 3: added a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Casey's basically the same. I mean, he's basically the same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, better at tackle. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 3: that they didn't do a whole lot. But they're both

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Speaker 3: really good teams, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the Eagles. I think the Eagles

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Speaker 2: got better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like DeAndre Swift is going to be on my

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Speaker 3: fantasy team.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now can he stay healthy? We don't know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't give to that, you know, right, But is he better?

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Speaker 2: Is he a better player than Miles Sanders? Yeah, yeah

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Speaker 2: he is.

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Speaker 3: They have a D line and they have no holes

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Speaker 3: on offense. That's a pretty good, pretty good formula to repeat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, of the of the teams at the

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Speaker 2: top of that tier, not including San Francisco, I thought

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Speaker 2: they got better.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles are talking about Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did Dallas get markedly better? We haven't talked much about them.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they there's some movies that you could forget about,

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Speaker 3: like Gilmour and Cooks that they traded for. There are

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Speaker 3: still good players that they got on the cheap. So

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yes, they did markedly, but maybe not.

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Speaker 3: But they're better than they were last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they're better than the the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers. I just can't can't put in that group. No,

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Speaker 2: you just can't do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean they have any early picks. Hard Graves great,

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Speaker 3: no question about it. But that's really the only thing

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Speaker 3: they did.

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Speaker 2: In tell me who's playing quarterback for you in September?

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Speaker 2: I think since and the answer, the answer cannot be

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold. I'm just I'm sorry, no, right, I think

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Speaker 2: since he's better because they're lines better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of defensive editions will help a little

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Speaker 3: to the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I think, you know, people who

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Speaker 2: are writing the Steelers off, I think they're going to

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Speaker 2: be in the mix this year two two.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm looking at the Bills and it

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Speaker 3: looks like they had two nice picks and Torrents and Kincaid,

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Speaker 3: but they lost Edmonds and they had a lot of

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Speaker 3: holes when the season ended. You know, they got a

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Speaker 3: year older and you know, a year older, right, right, right,

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Speaker 3: So they're still really good. I'll probably pick them to

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Speaker 3: win that division, but wouldn't shot me if they didn't.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you, I'm with you. But that was

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Speaker 2: Dan Hansis's power rankings. A few things that we disagreed with,

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Speaker 2: but not drastically. I think we were both have the

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Speaker 2: Rams a lot lower than where he has them the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: but it is what it is. And again, I think

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Speaker 2: too high in the forty nine ers, but I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are too high in the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers. He's not alone there.

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Speaker 3: No, I think we agree on who the top teams are.

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Speaker 3: The Niners are, Niners are tough the spot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I did think with a healthy party versus the Eagles

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Speaker 3: in what the NFC Championship game, they were one of

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Speaker 3: the four best teams in the league, even though I

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Speaker 3: still didn't trust Party.

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, yeah, did you miss any of our show? Today?

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Speaker 2: going to do it for our show today. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back on Wednesday as we get closer and closer here

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Speaker 2: to a Steelers rookie mini camp and as is usually

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Speaker 2: the case, you'll be able to listen to us daily

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Speaker 2: from the OTAs and mini camps and all that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff. So looking forward to that here as the

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Speaker 2: season kind of officially kicks off.

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Speaker 3: Now you say schedule, isn't that far away?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, we're looking at next Thursday that's coming out,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff happening here. Can't wait for that. Well,

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Speaker 2: fun with all that stuff. But that's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.