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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome in Happy Saturday. We are back baby. Our

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Speaker 2: football nightmare is nearly over. That is my Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: so we are more than exciting for all. Wow, look

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Speaker 2: at you guys. You guys are glowing right here. If

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Speaker 2: I didn't know any better, I would say you're glistening

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dewey is the way I like to describe myself

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Speaker 4: most mornings. Just says the due point the temperature drops

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Speaker 4: low enough to have just condensation resting on my forehead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you like your like a rolling stone gathers

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Speaker 1: no moss, a rolling Ornberger gathers no dew is that

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Speaker 1: is that how we're rolling?

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Speaker 4: That's correct, Yard Smith. I think I don't sleep. I

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Speaker 4: wait and I wait for these morning broadcasts with you.

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Speaker 3: Jeman.

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Speaker 1: You're specific time for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, Ye, a little early, you know, early

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Speaker 2: wake up call for you guys. Well, I mentioned the

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Speaker 2: football nightmare for all of us is nearly over. Ball

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Speaker 2: is nearly back, but the football nightmare for the Vikings

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Speaker 2: is underway. It's continuing, right because JJ McCarthy, their rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 2: he is down for the season. And it made it

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Speaker 2: even more painful the way the news broke this week. Right,

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Speaker 2: So he suffered this knee injury last week in a

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Speaker 2: preseason game against the Raiders, and he missed a practice

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Speaker 2: right after that, and head coach Kevin O'Connell he said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is probably routine soreness. We plan on giving McCarthy

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Speaker 2: more snaps with the number one offense this week. And

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Speaker 2: then the next thing we know, it's Ah, he's got

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Speaker 2: a torn moniscus. It requires surgery. We don't know how

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Speaker 2: severe the injury is. They won't know until they go

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Speaker 2: in there and operate. It turns out it's severe enough

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Speaker 2: he's done for the entire season. Man.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And the first thing I'll say about it is this,

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Speaker 2: some people, this is not a scarecrow argument just to

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Speaker 2: create something and argue against it. Right, some people are like,

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Speaker 2: this is actually a good thing. You know, he can learn,

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Speaker 2: there's no pressure, he can learn the offense. You know,

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Speaker 2: he can develop. This is not good news at all. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is a bad, bad thing for the Vikings because

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Speaker 2: this is key development real estate for JJ McCarthy. I

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Speaker 2: compare it this way. Look at Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: who got hurt early last season, he only threw eighty

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Speaker 2: four passes. If you compare that to Panthers quarterback Bryce Young,

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Speaker 2: who took a lot of lumps last season. But Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young threw five hundred and twenty seven passes. That's gonna

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Speaker 2: help his development this year. So that's something that JJ

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Speaker 2: McCarthy misses out on those reps learning on the job.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's one hundred horrible, because yeah,

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Speaker 2: there are some silver linings and some positives you can

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Speaker 2: take out of it, but overall, this is a huge,

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Speaker 2: huge blow to the Vikings and JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I think it's a lot of spin.

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Speaker 4: When people start saying, hey, you know an injury earlier

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Speaker 4: can give you an opportunity to catch up. Because I'll

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Speaker 4: speak from experience here, your rookie year is like the

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Speaker 4: longest year of your life. You go from college preseason training,

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Speaker 4: that's extended with the playoffs now, especially for a player

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Speaker 4: training and you better be in shape when these scouts

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Speaker 4: the tires on exactly how good of a prospect you are,

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Speaker 4: or when you get invited out to all these these

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Speaker 4: And then the draft occurs, and then you go to

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Speaker 4: then you're headlong into preseason training camp, and then preseason

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Speaker 3: Is a slog like you've never experienced.

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Speaker 4: Before in your life, because in college, your regular season

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Speaker 4: And then if you're so lucky, you get to the

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, if you want to draw the thinnest

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Speaker 4: mental anguish that a rookie goes through. But like you

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Speaker 4: pointed out, Brian, and I think it was perfectly you

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Speaker 4: also learn a lot during that time.

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Speaker 1: Are we sure he's gonna be the starter at any point,

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Speaker 1: like let's say, let's operate in a vacuum that he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: Is is he assumed at some point to be the

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Speaker 1: to overtake him because I think the situation's different than

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Speaker 1: they're graduated and they're right there, they're QB one right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate, whereas I think JJ had a

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Speaker 1: little bit of ascension still to overcome. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that correct answer is because I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: enough of I haven't seen enough of Sam in this system.

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Speaker 1: Although he looks okay through the first you know, few

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Speaker 1: seen in the preseason. But I think that was the

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Speaker 1: biggest question I had. And yes, he needs the reps

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Speaker 1: and he will continue to need the reps because reps

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Speaker 1: are reps whether they're in practice or in the game.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know how quickly he would have been

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Speaker 1: because he might have only started three or four or

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Speaker 2: I don't see it that way unless you believe so

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Speaker 2: where a top ten quarterback is just gonna sit and wait, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Donald's got it, he's holding it down.

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Speaker 2: Just don't worry about it, JJ, You know, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it'd be like Drake May and Jacoby Brissett, unless

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Speaker 2: you think so strongly of Jacoby Brissett where the Pats

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Speaker 2: it right now, we got to We're just gonna ride

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that JJ would have got a

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Speaker 2: brings us back to the preseason conversation. All three of

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Speaker 2: got to knock the rust off, especially for a young guy.

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Speaker 2: But an injury like this, he's done for the season.

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Speaker 2: Some will look at this and say this is the

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Speaker 2: reason why you don't go out there. It's too risky,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to risk the season and all that

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Speaker 2: type of stuff. I just say, it's unfortunate, right. I

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Speaker 2: know there's an injury risk, but there's also a suck risk.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got to get out there and practice

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Speaker 2: in preseason as a young guy, take those reps, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully you avoid the injury bug. Mahomes is playing today.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes could get hurt against the Lions and be done

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Speaker 2: for the season, but there's a reason why Andy Reid

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Speaker 2: unfortunate for McCarthy to miss the season. But I don't

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Speaker 4: Well, look, if there was no such thing as a preseason,

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Speaker 3: During the pandemic.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is, you're not just getting ready for

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Speaker 4: other strategies to get ready for a season.

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Speaker 3: So, like you just.

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Speaker 4: Pointed out, certain teams, certain players will get snaps, they

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Speaker 3: There are coaches who.

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Speaker 4: Will, you know, foist that type of action on their

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Speaker 4: How much risk are we willing to take to knock

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Speaker 4: if that's an assessment, how much risk are we willing

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry for an example, it's like

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Speaker 3: So he only has bo Nicks drafted.

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Speaker 4: Behind him in the first round, So you know those

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Speaker 4: be too much of that for JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: But for Caleb.

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Speaker 4: Williams, this is kind of good news because say, Brian,

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Speaker 4: and so does Caleb Williams. In Chicago, they're in the

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Speaker 4: having more early success than Chicago Bears rookie quarterback Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, Bears fan have an in division

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Speaker 4: and maybe even head to head, JJ McCarthy looks better

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Speaker 3: So well, the injury, it almost doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Feel positive at all for the Minnesota Vikings. This may

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Speaker 1: It's a good take. It's a really good take because

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Speaker 1: I honestly think that's at this point in the season.

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Speaker 1: All they all these guys have is their brains, right.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a whole lot of physical on tape

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Speaker 1: stuff to watch, you know what else. It is it

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Speaker 1: is a really good start to the campaign, right, we're campaigning.

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Speaker 1: It's an election year. The Kevin O'Connell coach of the

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Speaker 1: Year campaigns off to a great start, right, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, if the Vikings can still win the find

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell looks like he's coming up roses here. Because again,

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Speaker 1: I think the most likely scenario follow up what I

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Speaker 2: Now, I liked my Raheem Morris selection for Coach of

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Speaker 2: So if they are a nine ten win team, that

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Speaker 2: could be enough for Raheem Morris to win Coach of

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Speaker 2: the Year. I texted this to Jeff Schwartz. You'll hear

437
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: him tomorrow on countdown to kickoff. I'm like, oh, I

438
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Speaker 2: loved my Raheem Morris pick even I loved it before,

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Speaker 2: I love it even more now after these deals. He

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Speaker 2: hit me with, eh, that's what he hit anything Falcons related.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, more buddy for me, baby, more buddy. What

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Speaker 2: do you think of Raheem Morris coach of the year?

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Speaker 3: Rich?

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Speaker 4: I think you need to have a great quarterback to

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Speaker 4: be considered for a Coach of the Year, or you

446
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: need to have a season like Kevin Stefanski had to

447
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Speaker 4: be considered for coach of the Year, where you know,

448
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: through all of the fire and brimstone outlook of having

449
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Speaker 4: to start six different quarterbacks, you find a way to

450
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Speaker 4: cobble together a playoff season. So he I mean, check

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Speaker 4: one major box for Raheem Morris. He's got a great quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And I truly believe that Kirk Cousins is a great quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he's elite. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 4: in that upper echelon where it's kind of like Mahomes

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Speaker 4: and then a combination of names that include Alan Jackson

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Speaker 4: and Burrow, but Helen Jackson, I like that, yeah, Alan Jackson,

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Alan Jackson, Borrough, Like it's those three for sure.

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Speaker 4: In the top four, it's Patrick Mahomes number one. You

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Speaker 4: sort of can interchange the other three. But but then

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Speaker 4: below that there's that second tier, and somewhere in that

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Speaker 4: second tier is Kirk Cousins. And that means that Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 4: in my view, is good enough to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be a situation where it's anywhere near

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Speaker 4: as consistently in terms of the prospects for a borough,

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Speaker 4: Alan Jackson or certainly in Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: But he's in the conversation.

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Speaker 4: The problem is in division, he's had so many roadblocks.

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Speaker 4: You look at the commanders during his time in Washington,

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Speaker 4: you had at least two teams better than you at

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Speaker 4: all times. You look at that NFC North when he

471
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Speaker 4: was with the Vikings. Aaron Rodgers was the mayor of

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Speaker 4: that division for the entirety of his time there, and

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Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions started getting really good during his time there.

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Speaker 4: You know, you go down to the NFC South, you're

475
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Speaker 4: competing with Carr.

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Speaker 3: Mayfield and Young.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like the island of misfit toys down there.

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Speaker 4: He's got an opportunity to be the best quarterback in

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Speaker 4: the division for the first time in a very long time.

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Speaker 3: And so I believe in Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 4: I think because of his quarterback and because of the

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Speaker 4: additions to the defense, he's got a real shot here.

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Speaker 1: I like Morris too. I think again, the questions were

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Speaker 1: to me about you bring in a defensive coach. Why

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Speaker 1: didn't you address the defense early in the draft or

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Speaker 1: really at all in free agency? But again, better late

487
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Speaker 1: than never. It's not how you get there? Are you there?

488
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Speaker 1: And Matthew Judon. It's a twofold. It's a two pronged story.

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Speaker 1: It's Atlanta beefing up and really putting themselves in a

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Speaker 1: position to win. And on the other side, it's New

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Speaker 1: England saying, yeah, we've got no shot this year. Take

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Speaker 1: our best basically our best player for a third round

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Speaker 1: pick and and we're just gonna move on with our

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Speaker 1: with our tank job here. But I really think Atlanta

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Speaker 1: has an interesting situation for your Raheem Morris selection here, Brian,

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Speaker 1: and I'll say, here's the here's the path, here's the

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Speaker 1: script that I think gets you this win. I think

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Speaker 1: it's got to be Pennis and not Cousins. I think

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Speaker 1: Cousins has to go down or not be one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent and Penix then has to take over the job.

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Speaker 1: Because remember how I think the script to win Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year is starting to change a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It is a script. We do know that it's kind

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Speaker 1: of middling teams that overshoot. That was what Houston did

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Speaker 1: last year, but they didn't win. You know, they didn't

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Speaker 1: win Coach of the Year. To Bigo Ryans and win

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Speaker 1: that award. It was the upheaval of Cleveland situation, great roster,

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Speaker 1: bad quarterback situation. That's why I like the Minnesota pick

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Speaker 1: with o'connellen. Yeah. I think if if Cousins gets dinged

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Speaker 1: up or doesn't come back one hundred percent and Pennix

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Speaker 1: comes in and all of a sudden he's great and

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Speaker 1: they win the division, that's the path I see for

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris to win Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Well, the path for us to receive a great radio

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Speaker 2: show recognition is to work Isaac Lowan growing into the conversation. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: that's the path for us. I low with the latest.

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Speaker 7: Just take the path train. Good morning, fellas, how are

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Speaker 7: you good?

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Speaker 3: Fday?

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Speaker 7: Warning Bud all you Budd Always great to share the

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Speaker 7: airwaves with you, and always great for a Yankee fans.

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Speaker 7: When Aaron Judge gets into the act. Is on Friday night,

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Speaker 7: in Baltimore, Red Sox prevailed over the Orioles twelve to ten.

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Speaker 7: Boston's Masataka Yoshida a home run in four RBI in

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Speaker 2: because rich. You had the bet payoff last year where

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Speaker 2: you had to drink coffee with mayonnaise in it. A'llah

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Speaker 2: will Levis, the Titans quarterback.

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Speaker 3: There is something that we need to clean up here

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Speaker 3: and it's been a long wait. But before kickoff of

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Speaker 3: the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 4: To still do this bet left over from last Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's right. So the problem. The problem for me is,

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Speaker 4: as it turns out, I'm a much better off season

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Speaker 4: better than I am an e season better because this offseason,

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Speaker 4: I mean last week I went three and zero and

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Speaker 4: rapid fire.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm in fuego.

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Speaker 4: This this this regular seat, I have a hill to climb. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: we had the same bet back to back years. I

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Speaker 4: drank the mayonnaise coffee from two years ago, the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two season. I still haven't drank the mayonnaise coffee

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Speaker 4: from the twenty twenty season.

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Speaker 3: I did too.

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Speaker 2: You are a man of Intex you are because this

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Speaker 2: came down to the Super Bowl, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: know what was it like Deebo Samuels is the first half?

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00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a prop on Deebo's first half.

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00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: It was like his first half longest rush or something

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00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: random and he barely didn't get there.

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00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah you owe it was nineteen and a half yards.

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Speaker 3: So there it is.

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Speaker 1: Here's my prediction for the year. Rich is winning this

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Speaker 1: thing this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, really thanking the whole thing, by the way.

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Speaker 2: So the uh, the reason the mayonnaise conversation came back

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Speaker 2: up our guy Will Levis, Titans quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Goodness, he has partnered.

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Speaker 2: With Hellman's for a mayonnaise inspired fragrance. That's right, basically

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Speaker 2: like perfume day mayonnaise over here is uh what we're

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Speaker 2: going on? What do you think about this?

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Speaker 3: Huh? What do you think? Rich?

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine you're gonna be down for Will Levis

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Speaker 2: number eight harpoon Dayne's so shockingly.

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Speaker 3: You guys know my schedule.

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Speaker 4: I work all around the I'm here with you fine

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Speaker 4: gentlemen on Countdown, and then I do Red Zone Radio

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Speaker 4: with Hartman on Fox Sports Radio, and then I have

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Speaker 4: two weekday morning radio shows as well.

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Speaker 3: I do a midday sports show.

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Speaker 4: I also do a classic rock morning show with the

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Speaker 4: same fellas well. On that morning show, we purchased we

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Speaker 4: purchased the Perfume de Mayonnaise perfume, so they ran out

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Speaker 4: the first stock, we were on the website, and as

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Speaker 4: it turns out, if you were on that same website

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Speaker 4: at I guess It's Best Foods or Helman's, my co

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Speaker 4: host bought it at seven am. The next morning, they

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Speaker 4: restocked and we got our hands on a bottle.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, so we're gonna give this a shot.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea if it's gonna be like an

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Speaker 4: everyday where for me, maybe just for fancy nights out.

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Speaker 3: But this will Levis mayonnaise thing. I cannot get away

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Speaker 3: from it.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, Brian, I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: feel about this. Do you want because we made Rich

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Speaker 1: drink the coffe last year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Because now he No, don't don't get a heart now, Jared.

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Speaker 1: No, Well, here's what I'm saying. Men, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he gets off Scott free. Here I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: do you want to amend this year's wager? This year's

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Speaker 1: waging not not the one that he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do before the season starts. This year's wager for who

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Speaker 1: finishes last has to go out on a real date

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Speaker 1: with whoever could be your wife, whoever with the cologne

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Speaker 1: like like you have to bathe in like you have

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Speaker 1: to like just like like ten fifteen twenty sprays and

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Speaker 1: be out in public the whole night with the male colonel.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fun punishment, no less gross for

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Speaker 1: at least the people at least you, not nothing people

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Speaker 1: around you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna punish a lot of folks.

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Speaker 1: Although pish whoever you go on a date with, this

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Speaker 1: is my nightmare.

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Speaker 4: It could be delicious, it could smell. I mean, who knows,

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Speaker 4: this might be like a new aphrodisiac. Where it could be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe we'll keep it open where it is. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that's portion a of the two or three pronged bet

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Speaker 3: That's what spell some die.

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Speaker 2: You could double dip you. We'll leave that door open here,

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Speaker 5: Check this out r late letter.

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Speaker 2: All right, mister Jared Smith, what do you have for

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Speaker 2: us today?

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Speaker 3: Buddy?

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Speaker 1: Well, I will call this my mount rushmore of NFL

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Speaker 1: division winners. We're gonna get to some futures bets a

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Speaker 1: little bit later in the show. This is a bundle

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Speaker 1: of futures, a gaggle of futures, because it's all in

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Speaker 1: a parlay and bet MGM does allow you to do this,

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Speaker 1: put division winners together and parlay them. Why do I

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Speaker 1: like this, Well, because it's obviously not a you know,

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Speaker 1: against the grain. You can't have two teams in the

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Speaker 1: same division win win their division, so you can kind

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Speaker 1: of spread out your allocation here and you could hammer

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Speaker 1: a highly abedable thing here. So we're gonna go. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with the Chiefs to win the AFC West.

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Speaker 1: They won eight division titles in a row. Guys, They're

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Speaker 1: not losing the division title this year. I don't see

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Speaker 1: the Chargers making a run. I don't see Boe Nicks

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Speaker 1: and the Broncos making a run. And I certainly do

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Speaker 1: not see the Las Vegas Raiders, who might be one

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Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the NFL after it's all

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Speaker 1: said and make a run. So the Chiefs WO are

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Speaker 1: a big favorite to win the division. They go at

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Speaker 1: the top of the Mount rushmore the core four of

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Speaker 1: NFL division winners this year. My second team on this

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Speaker 1: list is in the NFC East, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: the Eagles year in the NFC East. Last year it

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Speaker 1: was Cowboys. The Eagles had it until they didn't. A

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Speaker 1: lot of retooling for Philly in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: I think they're much better.

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Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore, especially with Jalen Hurts, is going

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Speaker 1: to be a match made in heaven. And I think

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are going to win the NFC East. Now

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Speaker 1: let's go to I would call it the undercart of

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Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore. I'm not as confident in these two,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still pretty confident. Let's start with the Lions

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Speaker 1: to win the NFC nor. This Detroit team has what

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Speaker 1: I believe to be the best culture in the league.

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Speaker 1: What do they say, good teams win, great teams cover.

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Speaker 1: The Lions have now put together three consecutive seasons covering

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Speaker 1: at over a sixty percent rate under Dan Campbell. They

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Speaker 1: just get it done. I think this is a tough division.

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Speaker 1: I think Green Bay and Minnesota have a chance to

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Speaker 1: really contend. Not as high on Chicago just yet with

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Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback, but I still think the Lions are

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Speaker 1: kind of the class of this division in terms of

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Speaker 1: the culture, the offensive line, the way their offenses run

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Speaker 1: under Ben Johnson's up with the Lions in the NFC

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Speaker 1: North for my division parlay. And finally, I think this

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Speaker 1: team will not have as much success as they did

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Speaker 1: last year in the regular season, but come close to it.

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Speaker 1: And that is the Houston Texans in the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: I actually think of all the four that I'm giving

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Speaker 1: you here, I think this AFC South will be the

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Speaker 1: tightest of the four because I think the Colts and

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have a chance, and I think the Texans

725
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Speaker 1: kind of overshot last year and I expect them to

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Speaker 1: come back to earth just a little bit. But I

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Speaker 1: still think Stroud and Ryan's and what they did in

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Speaker 1: the offseason bringing in Stefan Diggs, I still think that's

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Speaker 1: good enough to be the class.

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Speaker 3: Of this division.

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Speaker 1: So the Chiefs in the West, Eagles in the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: Texans in the AFC South Lions, NFS North. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize this. I got an East, West, South, and North

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Speaker 1: all in here. All the directions are covered. This is

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Speaker 1: eleven to one at met MGM. Four teams to win

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Speaker 1: the division. You get to sit on this puppy the

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Speaker 1: entire season.

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Speaker 3: I like it a lot.

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Speaker 4: I think this is a really really fun way to play.

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Speaker 4: Some futures parlay.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The only one I would have added to this, although

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Speaker 4: I understand why you didn't is out of the NFC

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Speaker 4: West San Francisco. I'm assuming because the IUK news hasn't

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Speaker 4: settled yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've discis I don't know if we've discussed

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. We should before the season starts. I'm down

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Speaker 1: on them. I cannot down on them to where I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna miss the playoffs and have this miserable

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Speaker 1: year like be picking in the top ten in the draft.

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Speaker 1: But I think their priced just as high as the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are. To win the AFC West. I see a

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Speaker 1: lot more competition in the NFC West because I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams with Stafford can still compete.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, don't sleep on Seattle bringing in

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Speaker 1: this new coach McDonald who could defend who he knows

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Speaker 1: defense is better than anyone. And I think Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: still has one good year left and they've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of good pieces around them offensively. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: completely ruling out Seattle. I just I'm a little down

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Speaker 1: on the Niners, the offensive line, the EYEU thing. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know if it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: you know, thirteen to fourteen win year for San Francisco. Man.

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Speaker 2: I just think about last year if you had the

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Speaker 2: Eagles to win their division.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're crushed.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Can you imagine if history repeats itself

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Speaker 2: and that's what undoes the eleven to one division winners?

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Speaker 1: Oh, he can check it back in on this down

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Speaker 1: the road and we'll quote this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing I'll say real fast about the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I love their roster, but trading a last place schedule

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Speaker 2: for a first place schedule.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: If we should get into the Texans too, I've got

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Speaker 1: some stuff on them too. That's a little negative.

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Speaker 2: Got stuff, We got stuff, stuff, babe. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: the stuff they coming up next. This is a ridiculous punishment.

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Speaker 2: Will they lay that out for you?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Us? Oh, what is going on? Happen?

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Speaker 2: It be Saturday to you as we march toward kickoff here,

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Speaker 2: which is just an awesome, awesome thing. Could not be happier. Now,

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Speaker 2: we don't talk a whole lot of swimming on this show,

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Speaker 2: but we do talk gambling, right and man, there's a

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Speaker 2: story that we just have to touch on for a

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Speaker 2: little bit here. Notre Dame suspended its men's swimming program

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Speaker 2: for at least one year. For at least one year. Now,

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Speaker 2: what did they do?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: There was an external review, okay, and the external review

796
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: found members of the team they violated NCAA rules by

797
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: wagering among themselves on results of their competitions. Okay, they're

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Speaker 2: not betting on opposing teams or other sports. There was

799
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Speaker 2: nothing found as far as that goes. There was no hazing,

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Speaker 2: there's no bullying. They're just betting on themselves and their

801
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: times whether they'll go over or under a certain time.

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Speaker 2: They get popped for it, they're done for an entire

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Speaker 2: academic year. Now, the problem I have with this is,

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Speaker 2: can you, for a second, like close your eyes and

805
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: imagine a world where the Notre Dame football team is

806
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Speaker 2: doing the same thing. Okay, they're found to have wagered

807
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Speaker 2: this offseason. If Riley Leonard will throw at least two

808
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Speaker 2: touchdown passes in the opener against Texas A and M,

809
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Speaker 2: you think they're popped. You think they're suspended for an

810
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Speaker 2: entire year. Hell no, And that's the problem I have.

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Speaker 2: This is a complete overreaction, way too heavy handed of

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Speaker 2: a punishment, and totally inconsistent because you're not doing this

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Speaker 2: with money making sports. There is zero chance they would

814
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Speaker 2: do this with the football team. So the swimming team

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Speaker 2: the sacrificial lambs. They're the example of hey, straighten up

816
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Speaker 2: or you could be like them, even though there is

817
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Speaker 2: zero chance that whatever happens to the football team. I

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Speaker 2: think this story sucks. I hate it.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I completely agree with you. I think that and I'm

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Speaker 4: blanking on his first name, but Bovaqua, yes, Pete, Pete Bavaqua,

822
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Speaker 4: the athletic director for the Notre Dame Irish. The way

823
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Speaker 4: this occurred was a way for him to look like

824
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Speaker 4: the compliance czar for his school that he's taking a

825
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Speaker 4: strong stance against all of this, and he actually just

826
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Speaker 4: saved his athletic department a boatload of money because you

827
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Speaker 4: don't have to travel your swimming team, even though they're

828
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Speaker 4: a top ten program. You don't have to worry about

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Speaker 4: sending these guys to an arbor or I don't even

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Speaker 4: know who they compete against in swimming. To be perfectly

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Speaker 4: honest with you, I'm guessing it's more acc teams, but

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Speaker 4: I digress on that to say this, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: If this was their men's basketball team or their football

834
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Speaker 4: team wouldn't have happened. And frankly, I don't want to

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Speaker 4: defend these players, these swimmers, these participants too ardently because

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Speaker 4: I don't know the nuance here. I don't know the

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Speaker 4: context here, and none of us do. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what these text messages look like. This group text that

839
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Speaker 4: was cited in these articles that apparently, if I'm sure,

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Speaker 4: were made public, would defame the Notre Dame Athletic department

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Speaker 4: in some way.

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Speaker 3: But I do know this. I know that athletes we

843
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Speaker 3: talk a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of mess you know, especially when you're a tight

845
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Speaker 4: group like brothers, and you know, you'll say things privately

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Speaker 4: that you would never say publicly. You'll tease people in

847
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Speaker 4: certain ways you would never allow outside of a locker room.

848
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Speaker 4: And that's the trust that you build with people who

849
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Speaker 4: you legitimately consider family because you go through in certain cases,

850
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Speaker 4: harder things with the people in that locker room than

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Speaker 4: you will with even the own members of your family.

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Speaker 1: So this is a scapegoats courts.

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00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you trust them like family, and it does

854
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Speaker 4: feel like they've been scapegoated.

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Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, it does, that is what it feels like. Now.

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Speaker 1: I've never played anything collegiately like rich has are and professionally,

857
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: but you know, I've had a lot of recreational sports

858
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: in my day, high school sports. Now, gambling wasn't as

859
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: popular back in those days as it is now, and

860
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Speaker 1: I think that is a big part of this story too.

861
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Speaker 1: I think the culture of gambling has overtaken the youth

862
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Speaker 1: of America. They love it. That's why it's it's one

863
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why it's become so successful. The other reason,

864
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: of course, being just it's always been successful. It's just

865
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Speaker 1: always been underground. But the youth has really captured here. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm on social media a lot in the

867
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: gambling community. I see the hashtags and the raises and

868
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: all the you know, the lingo, and it's like it's

869
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: a whole new generation. And it's funny because I interact

870
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: with a lot of older professional gamblers, like our pal

871
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: Bell Krackenberger here here tomorrow, and a lot of his

872
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: colleagues and friends, and it's like a completely it's a divide.

873
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: It's a generational gap between what they do and what again,

874
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two year old, twenty five year old

875
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, post college kids are doing right now in

876
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: the gambling space. This seems very very normal to me,

877
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Like what these kids did, Like they're betting on themselves

878
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: and they're making it competitive and its personal growth and

879
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to beat their own times or compete against

880
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: each other. In my eyes, this should be applauded. I

881
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: sent the text to you guys yesterday about this. Not

882
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: all heroes were capes somewhere, goggles and caps, and that's

883
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: to me, that's what this story is. They are taking

884
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: the rap for something that in twenty years we're gonna

885
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: look back and laugh at this. And I think Notre

886
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: Dame kind of had their hands tied because of the

887
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: current climate around gambling, and that climate is hot, it's heavy,

888
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: and it's not quite mainstream yet. We're getting there, right.

889
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: We got to show a nation already every Saturday and

890
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: Sunday mornings year round. That's pretty cool, but it's not

891
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: there yet in the collegiate ranks. And I think that's

892
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: why this happened. And it's terribly it's awful, it's dumb,

893
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: it's silly, it's stupid. I hate it, but it happened.

894
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: And this is where we're at still currently in America

895
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: with this gambling climate.

896
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and rich you mentionede Bovaqua. He's the ad at

897
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and I worked with him when I was

898
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: at NBC right when I did my local show in

899
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: Portland that was NBC Sports Northwest when it was still around,

900
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: and he was a head hon show at NBC, and

901
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 2: so I interacted with Pete at times. I think highly

902
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: of him. I think he's awesome, but I think he

903
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: completely botched this one because whatever you want to say, like, well,

904
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 2: what were these derogatory remarks in this group text message, dude?

905
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: If the football team was doing the exact same thing

906
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: they could for you, yeah, they might be. I wouldn't

907
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: be surprised at all if they're like, hey, is uh

908
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: is Smith's gonna get nine tackles in the opener, right, Like,

909
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised at all. That's the thing to

910
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: be done for an entire year. To me, it's like

911
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: if they did this gambling thing amongst themselves and they

912
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: like murdered goats, you know, and you're like, well, I mean.

913
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: Or if it was and you've got to do something

914
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: bad like hazing.

915
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, just dangerous, Yeah, just betting on your

916
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: own times and maybe a group text thread, and I

917
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: feel bad. The story said about sixty percent of the

918
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: swim team was in on this thing, so think of

919
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: the forty percent that didn't do any of this. Yeah,

920
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: and they're just like cool, So we don't have swimming

921
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: for an entire year. I could transfer, but that's a

922
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: whole thing. I kind of wanted to do a degree

923
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: from the University of Notre Dame. I think it's heavy handed.

924
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: I think it's over the top. I do not agree

925
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: with it whatsoever. But while we're talking about college football,

926
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: how about this. You hear that the suits, the group

927
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: of five commissioners, they're gonna be getting together here soon

928
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: and they're gonna vote on whether they should have a

929
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: group of five playoff right where it would be sort

930
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: of like the nit of football. We've got the college

931
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: football playoff. There will be one group of five team

932
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: in that thing every year to twelve teams. They're invited

933
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: to the party. They're not giving that up, but they're

934
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: thinking about a group of five playoffs. I'm all for it.

935
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love to see this. I would watch it.

936
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: I think it would give them their moment in the sun.

937
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: I think it's way better than these like lower tier

938
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: bowl games. If they have a group of five playoff,

939
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm all for that. I think that'd be a great

940
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: move for them.

941
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 3: I think it would be a great move.

942
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: However, I would say this, there's always adenda to every single,

943
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: every single decision made, and you have to have a

944
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: way to get out of it if the playoff expands

945
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: ever further.

946
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: So, right now we have twelve teams.

947
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: In and that does very much so feel like that

948
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: there will be a separation between the powers of college

949
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 4: football and then the rest. And oftentimes when we talk

950
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 4: about the rest, we talk about the group of five. However,

951
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: if twelve teams works really well, like we know, this

952
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: consistently shifting landscape of college football, maybe expands to sixteen.

953
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: Maybe it expands one day. And don't think I'm crazy,

954
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: because greed is real and money works for all these

955
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: schools and all these networks and all these conferences. What

956
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: if it expands to thirty two? You know what, if

957
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: you have a thirty two team bracket, do you still

958
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: want your own playoff bracket if you're the group of five?

959
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: The answer is absolutely not.

960
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: I would.

961
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: I would because how many teams are getting out at

962
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: thirty two?

963
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

964
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess that's fair.

965
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: But in for example, in college basketball, I mean, like

966
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: you said, you do have then it. In college basketball,

967
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: the tournament's everything, you know, So I suppose you could

968
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: still have almost like I don't want to call it

969
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: the loser's bracket because that's that's being unfair, but but

970
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 4: you have a a second tier bracket to pay attention to,

971
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: and it makes it compelling at very least to have

972
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: some form of a postseason, but everybody's attentions on the tournament.

973
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: So I would say, yeah, I don't mind the idea

974
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: in concept, but if playoffs are expanded, I think you

975
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 4: got to find a way to wiggle your way out

976
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: of that and join the rest of the pack again.

977
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that is certain in college

978
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: football right now is uncertainty, right And I hate to

979
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: be so cliche about it, but it's just so every

980
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: year and we haven't even wrapped our heads around it yet.

981
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: We're going to in about thirty minutes because we're gonna

982
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: do a future segment about who is gonna make the

983
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: college football playoff and my big I'll call it, I

984
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: guess talking point this year, you know, just just focus

985
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: this year is how many seats are at the table

986
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: compared to what the odds are telling us. And I

987
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be such a fascinating shift because we

988
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: go from four to twelve and we don't really know,

989
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: like what is gonna transpire. I was thinking about putting

990
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: a college football, uh a parlay futures parlay in there

991
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: where I threw the national champion in a couple of

992
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: other you know, parlay spots, And I'm thinking to myself

993
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: last night when I was cooking that one up, I'm like,

994
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the bracket's gonna look like,

995
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know what the pat like. It's

996
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: such a unique scenario in collegeora ball this year. We

997
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: have no way of knowing what because we have no

998
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: history to go off of. It is completely brand new.

999
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: And I know the college ball Playoff was also brand new,

1000
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: but at least we had a few years of it

1001
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: to kind of get into a rhythm. Like, yeah, you know,

1002
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: if you lose one game and you're not an SEC team,

1003
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: you're probably not getting a large, Like you're probably not

1004
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: getting in. Now, if you lose one or two games

1005
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: as an SEC team, you're probably still getting in. So

1006
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: it changes the math so much. So to go to

1007
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: the group of five stuff, I think they deserve more

1008
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: of a spotlight because I think there's a lot of

1009
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: good football teams in those conferences, and I think this

1010
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: would be a really positive thing to give them their

1011
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: own show. Is it gonna happen anytime soon? Probably not,

1012
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: but I'd be all for it.

1013
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: If it did.

1014
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: Would I would too, I really would, because the stakes,

1015
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: if the stakes are greater, if it's for the group

1016
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: of five playoff championship, right, I'm gonna watch James Madison

1017
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: take on two Lane or whatever it happens to be, right,

1018
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: that's better than whatever the modern day Poland Weed Eater

1019
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: Bowl is, you know.

1020
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: What I mean, pop Tarts Bowl anymore?

1021
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't do it. What do you think

1022
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: of marketing purposes though? Rich you mentioned this instead of

1023
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: the group of five playoff, how about the loser's bracket?

1024
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 8: I love it?

1025
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: Can you imagine it? That's how they That's how they

1026
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: market it, the losers bracket.

1027
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: You get Beck out there playing halftime and some of

1028
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: these games.

1029
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: Look, I love I.

1030
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: Love opportunities for athletes to play plays as much as

1031
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: they can to get that exposure, because sometimes all it

1032
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: takes is one game, right, I mean, sometimes a star

1033
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: is born in a bowl game that nobody was paying

1034
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: attention to, but all of a sudden, a quarterback has

1035
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: a six touchdown game.

1036
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: And we're like, whoa who is this? You know?

1037
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: Or running back racks off of two hundred forty yard

1038
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: performance and we're like.

1039
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: What the heck? You know? You can?

1040
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 4: You can all of a sudden, and especially these days,

1041
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 4: since basically all these players are a CEO of their

1042
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 4: own little small business, you can. You can do yourself

1043
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: some huge favors just by getting out there and doing

1044
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: special things on the field. So the more opportunities for

1045
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: all that the better. I'm not against it. I'm just saying,

1046
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 4: you know, make sure that there's an exit clause on

1047
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: anything you sign because the changes, Like you said, Jared,

1048
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the only consistency is inconsistency right

1049
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: now in college football?

1050
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's that's one hundred percent. I think group

1051
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: of five makes sense. I love the NIT, Brian. I

1052
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: know you're into it too, like I think I've been.

1053
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I went to an n T game

1054
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: at the Garden. They don't have it at the Garden anymore,

1055
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: at least the finals. It was Penn State, Notre Dame.

1056
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: Joe Paterno was there. Like the NT games they've got

1057
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: juiced to him. Man, I would be so down.

1058
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: For that in college football ranks, I would too, absolutely

1059
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,320
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Speaker 2: all socials at BETMGM. Okay, So, Brandon Aiyuk forty nine

1080
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: wide receiver gonna remain forty nine Ers wide receiver. Okay,

1081
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of hard talk, but it's just talk, right,

1082
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Like Brandon Ayuk was posting screenshots of Jaden Daniels and

1083
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders like all twenty two training camp where

1084
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: they were teammates at Arizona State for a little bit,

1085
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: and it's just negotiating tactics, right, That's all this is.

1086
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 2: We're now getting to the point where the first three

1087
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: years of the contract extension are pretty much ironed out,

1088
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: and i Uk want something a little bit to go

1089
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 2: his way in year four of the contract extension. He's

1090
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: not going anywhere, man. He's not going to the Steelers,

1091
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: not going to the Browns, not going to the Patriots.

1092
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna end up right back in San Francisco because

1093
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: that's the best spot for him and that's the best

1094
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: situation for the forty nine Ers. We've had situations that

1095
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: are way worse than this. It just popped into my

1096
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: mind a couple of minutes ago. Is a CBA negotiation

1097
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: years ago. It was when Paul Tagliabu was still the

1098
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: commissioner of the NFL and Gene Upshaw was the head

1099
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: of the players Union, and it looked like there might

1100
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: be a lockout. Gene Upshaw was like, Yeah, we'll just

1101
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 2: proceed to the lockout. Terms aren't in our favorite Paul

1102
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: Tagliabu its classic line was it's about as dire as

1103
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: dire d And guess what they ironed it out. There

1104
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: was no lockout like this this IUK and forty nine

1105
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: ers thing. When you're in the middle of it and

1106
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, Manda, the Browns offered a trade and

1107
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up right back in San Francisco.

1108
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with you.

1109
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: When you think about, in the case of Brandon Ayyuk,

1110
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: how do you create leverage. You create leverage like you

1111
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: would in a hand of poker. You bluff Yep, that's

1112
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: that's how this works. So say you you think you

1113
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: have a pretty good hit, but you're not one hundred

1114
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 4: percent sure it's the best hand at the table. How

1115
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: do you encourage others to fold? How do you encourage

1116
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: others to get out of the way so that you

1117
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: increase your odds of winning with a pretty good hand

1118
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 4: instead of the best hand at the table By bluffing,

1119
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: You push some chips in, you throw your weight around,

1120
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 4: you start, you start making, you start figuring out who's

1121
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: the scared money at this table.

1122
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: That's what Brandon.

1123
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: Ayuk is doing. This is all big talk, right. People

1124
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: don't make decisions. Deadlines do. And we're not up against

1125
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: a hard and fast deadline yet. And so until we are,

1126
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 4: this dance will continue, and Brandon Ayuk will continue playing

1127
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: his leverage until it gets serious, until he's missing out

1128
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 4: on game checks, until this gets to the point when

1129
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers need him and somebody

1130
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: else is going to have to fill the void.

1131
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: He's not gonna want that.

1132
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: So in this situation, what we've seen so far feels

1133
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 4: like a big old leverage play.

1134
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: And Branda I.

1135
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 4: Knows and has always known that he's going to be

1136
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: a forty nine er. It just the only difference is

1137
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 4: going to be how many dollars hit his bank account

1138
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: each week.

1139
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's kind of funny because we're going

1140
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: to go from this story. And I agree with both

1141
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: your takes Hunter percent Richie Nail did. It's all about leverage,

1142
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: the proper leverage and the timing of it. There was

1143
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: no immediate urgency to do this in June or July

1144
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: or even August. And now we're starting to get to

1145
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: that point where it's getting close to the finish line.

1146
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: But what did we hear this week? All positives? Oh,

1147
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: they're so close and years three or four is done.

1148
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: And even Deebo Samuel went on I think it was

1149
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: k Adam show, uh yesterday or earlier this week, and said, hey,

1150
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: we're not going to worry about you know, because she

1151
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: asked the question can you win a Super Bowl without

1152
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 1: Brandon Ay? And Deebo's like, we're not to worry about

1153
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: the like Ba is gonna be part of this team.

1154
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: I think that was the exact quote. So again, all

1155
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: of the all of the surrounding parts of this story

1156
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: seemed to be calm. It seems to be more detant.

1157
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: We are now in a period of calm. It was

1158
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: hot and heavy for a few weeks. Maybe he's gonna

1159
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh, Maybe he's gonna go here, and now

1160
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of the back end of it where, yeah,

1161
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: we're not in what was Tagley Blues line, such a

1162
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: great line.

1163
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: Dire, it's about as dire as dire.

1164
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: We're not there anymore. We're not as dire anymore.

1165
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: No, not as dire. I love this to remember the

1166
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey thing. He was on NFL Network and he

1167
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: accidentally said this about Brandon and Ayyuk.

1168
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 4: Obviously as a as a former teammate or you know,

1169
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 4: teammate of his in general, you want the best for them.

1170
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: As a former teammate. We're like, former teammate want to

1171
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: CMC though that we don't know, and it's just a

1172
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: slip up, man, Like it doesn't mean anything. I love

1173
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: that hole. That was my favorite part of this whole

1174
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: thing is if the Niners went to Christian McCaffrey and said, hey, listen,

1175
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: we can't let it out publicly yet, but yeah, right

1176
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: like you is gone. Come on, man, it's just a

1177
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: slip up. And when it seems you'll see these headlines

1178
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: like there's a deal in place, the Steelers have a

1179
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: deal in place, And I would be floored if he

1180
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: went to the Steelers, and it got that personal where

1181
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: you think that the Steelers are gonna break the bank

1182
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: and he's making way more money over there with an

1183
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: iffier situation, right like quarterback wise, roster wise, competing for

1184
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl wise, all that type of stuff. Does

1185
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: he want to live there?

1186
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1187
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: Like, there's all this He's not going anywhere, man, this

1188
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: is all like Rich said, it's a leverage play and

1189
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: it's a big bluff to try to get more money.

1190
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: And I get it. That's what you have to do

1191
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: in a negotiation. You try to get more leverage. That's

1192
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: what he's doing. He's bluffing that he's going somewhere else

1193
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: when he never was.

1194
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: When you're a player like Stefan Diggs who's currently with

1195
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 4: a good football team, but you're looking for one big

1196
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 4: old paycheck before you call your career, you call it

1197
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: a career. What he did to the Buffalo Bills makes sense, right,

1198
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 4: you know, you think about he switched from the Vikings

1199
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 4: to the Bills, hit it off with Josh Allen, they

1200
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 4: have success, and then the kind of the same thing

1201
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 4: that happened with him and the Vikings are him with

1202
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. It started happening with the Bills and Josh Allen.

1203
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: So he skipped ship over to the Houston Texans, who

1204
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: again another team that has a real shot.

1205
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk.

1206
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: He's in the first system he's ever played in, and

1207
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: there's always that fear of geez, you know, is it

1208
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: ever really gonna be better than this different situation for

1209
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 4: Dix Because I've heard that comparison before. People will defend

1210
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 4: the fact that maybe Ayuk will leave because look what

1211
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs did. The Vikings were never in the situation

1212
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 4: that the San Francisco forty nine ers currently are in.

1213
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: Not in the past twenty years.

1214
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: I mean, this is either the top or one of

1215
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: the top two or three teams in the league right now.

1216
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: It's the only offensive system that Brandon Ayuk has ever

1217
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: played in. He's coming off his best year, and yeah,

1218
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: it's time to go to the bank and say, hey, yeah,

1219
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 4: like I got all these savings bonds that I don't

1220
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 4: want to cash in. Now I get it, and by it,

1221
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: he should do this, he should exert his leverage. But

1222
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: to make the comparison that because some other star receivers

1223
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 4: who are at completely different spots in their life in

1224
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 4: their career.

1225
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: Did what he's aiming to do. You can't.

1226
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 4: It's not apples to apples. This is a very different situation.

1227
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 4: And I don't think that he's gonna leave. I don't

1228
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: think he wants to leave. I think he's playing this right.

1229
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 4: He's exerting leverage. They are getting his camp. I'm trying

1230
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 4: when I say they his camp. They're getting a lot

1231
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 4: of news out about trade packing, you know, and the

1232
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: threats are seeming real. But I do think at the

1233
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 4: end of the day, Brandon Ayuk is in that offense

1234
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: and the forty nine ers their future is somewhat secured.

1235
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: So that's the good news. Here's the bad news.

1236
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: Brock Purdy is still their quarterback.

1237
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's the worst news. That's the worst news.

1238
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: Here's the bad news though, Okay, Trent Williams still yeah, yeah,

1239
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: we'll hold out sure. And another offensive lineman just broke

1240
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: his pinky. That's gonna need surgery this week. And that

1241
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: was the to me, that's the knock. It's not Ayuk,

1242
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: it's not Debo, it's not even Party to an extent.

1243
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: I think Shanahan's offense masks a lot of Party's warts.

1244
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: It's the offensive line that I'm concerned with this year

1245
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: with San Francisco, it is Trent Williams and four traffic cones,

1246
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: and now it's three and a half traffic cones because

1247
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: again starting guard needs surgery on his broken pinky. That

1248
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: just happened this week. Trent Williams going through a holdout.

1249
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: Now I think he will get signed as well. But

1250
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: you just have a lot of moving parts with this

1251
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: offensive line. And if the offensive line ain't right, Rich,

1252
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish the equation. Do the Niners have

1253
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: a chance to win the Super Bowl this year?

1254
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 4: If the offensive line isn't secured, they are not going

1255
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl because we saw what happened,

1256
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 4: the devastation that one player, namely Chris Jones can create

1257
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl. He was in Bryce or excuse me,

1258
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: I almost say Bryce Young brock Purdy's kitchen the entire night,

1259
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 4: and that really had a strong effect on the outcome

1260
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: of that game.

1261
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: Look, I mean to be perfectly honest with you. Chris Jones.

1262
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 4: He started last season holding out. Remember he missed the

1263
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 4: first game. The Chiefs figured it out and that helped

1264
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 4: them win a Super Bowl. I think that the forty

1265
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 4: nine ers aren't going to cut off their nose to

1266
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 4: spite their face. I think they realized the importance of

1267
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 4: IUK and they'll get this deal done.

1268
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: You know you mentioned the broken pinky of a Niners

1269
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, Jared, Did you realize that Lowen Crown once

1270
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: had a broken pinky? But he said, give me the

1271
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: Ronnie Lot. Just now, I got an update to deliver

1272
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: right here, I low with the latest.

1273
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 8: It involved a microphone holder mishap.

1274
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 7: Workman's comp, workman's cup, No workman's comp needed for Aaron Judge.

1275
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 7: On Friday night, he had only his forty fourth home

1276
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 7: out of the season to leave the majors at a

1277
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 7: three to nothing victory for the Yankees at Detroit. In

1278
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 7: same game, in Baltimore, Red Sox defeat of the Orioles

1279
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 7: twelve to ten, Boston's Masataka Yoshida a home run in

1280
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 7: four RBI, the Orioles Ramon Orias a home run and

1281
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 7: five RBI, and Baltimore rookie Jackson Holiday had his first

1282
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 7: career four hit game, Speaking of rookies, in the Pirates

1283
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 7: five to three victory over the Mariners that broke Pittsburgh's

1284
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 7: ten game losing streak. Bucks rookie pitcher Paul Steen struck

1285
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 7: out six and six innings for the win to improve

1286
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 7: to seven to two with a two point three zero

1287
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 7: Philly's over the Nationals four to three. Trey Turner the

1288
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 7: game winning RBI single in the bottom of the ninth inning,

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Speaker 7: his fourth hit of the game, and the White Sox

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Speaker 7: one at Houston five to four, breaking the Astros eight

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Speaker 7: game winning streak. The White Sox Luis Robert Junior two

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Speaker 7: home runs, four hits, four RBI. The Tampa Bay Rays

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Speaker 7: walked off the Diamondbacks five to four, breaking Arizona's six

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Speaker 7: game winning streak. In the w NBA. On Friday night,

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Speaker 7: Caitlin Clark the Indiana Fever twenty nine points, ten assists,

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Speaker 7: and four to three pointers in a ninety eight eighty

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Speaker 7: nine win over the Phoenix Mercury. Today's NFL preseason action

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Speaker 7: kicks off just under an hour and a half from

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Speaker 7: now in Baltimore as the Ravens host the Falcons. That

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Speaker 7: at one pm Eastern, it'll be the Bears hosting the

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Speaker 7: Bengals and the New York Giants visiting the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 5: Felt oh my.

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Speaker 3: No goodnom too?

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Speaker 7: Hey at least now I'm balanced out back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: extra five percent off. Okay, So there's a new book

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Speaker 2: coming out about Aaron Rodgers. It's an unauthorized biography about Rogers,

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Speaker 2: which just sounds like par for the course. Right, this

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Speaker 2: is unauthorized. I didn't give it my consent on Aaron Rodgers. Right.

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Speaker 2: But Rogers told author Ian O'Connor that he should have

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Speaker 2: been truthful about his vax status. Remember the whole controversy

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Speaker 2: about three years go. He told reporters he had been immunized.

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Speaker 2: We thought that meant he was vaxed. It didn't. He

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Speaker 2: misled us. It was a whole thing The quote killed me.

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Speaker 2: Rogers says in the book, if there's one thing I

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Speaker 2: wish could have gone different, it's that, because that's the

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Speaker 2: only thing critics could hit me with, the only thing,

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Speaker 2: the only thing we could hit him with. It reminds

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Speaker 2: me of one of the best rants of all time.

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Speaker 2: This was Nick Wright on FS one's First Things First.

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Speaker 2: This is back in December. Listen to what he says

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Speaker 2: about Rogers being disingenuous. It just it popped into my

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Speaker 2: head because Rogers was like, yeah, the facts thing, that's

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Speaker 2: the only thing people could hit me with. Over listen

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Speaker 2: to what Nick Wright had to say about Rogers.

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Speaker 9: The commentary is not about your vaccination status. It's about

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Speaker 9: you being the most disingenuous athlete of my lifetime. You

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Speaker 9: were disingenuous about the vaccine that was annoying, not the

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Speaker 9: status the way you did it. You were ingenuous about

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Speaker 9: your retirement status ninety percent retired. You were disingenuous about

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Speaker 9: coming out of the dark room.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play for the Packers.

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Speaker 1: That was my only goal.

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Speaker 9: You were disingenuous about how well verived and works in

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Speaker 9: southern California.

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Speaker 5: You were then.

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Speaker 9: Disingenuous about whether or not you wanted Randall Cobb, als

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Speaker 9: are Tim Boyle on your team? Or if Joe Douglas

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Speaker 9: is just quite simply the worst talent evaluator in NFL history.

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Speaker 9: You were disingenuous about why Nat Hackett's the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 9: You're now disingenuous.

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Speaker 1: About your own comeback what you were.

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Speaker 9: Disingenuous about the entire time. So this is not about

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Speaker 9: anyone's private medical decisions. It's about the biggest look at me.

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 9: Louis saying to his best buddy McAfee, why.

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Speaker 2: Is everyone looking at me?

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Speaker 1: It's so irritating.

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: Yep, that's pretty much exactly what it is. And the

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Speaker 2: takeaway from me is Rogers does not live in reality.

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Speaker 2: He lives in Rogers reality, right, Like, whatever the reality

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Speaker 2: is to him, that's what he thinks the real reality is.

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Speaker 2: To say, oh the facts, I guess the only thing

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01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: critics could hit me with. That is so absolutely wrong,

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Speaker 2: But that's what he truly believes.

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Speaker 3: Man, he lives in his own world.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is a very complicated man. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 4: doubt that there are layers to this person that are

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Speaker 4: not available to most of us.

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Speaker 3: He has it seems a.

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Speaker 4: Pretty tight circle and a pretty complex personal life, at

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Speaker 4: least on the outside looking in. That's what it seems like.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's more simple. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems

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Speaker 4: like there's some things there that we don't know, that

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Speaker 4: we've only really seen the tip of the iceberg on,

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Speaker 4: and there's a lot happening below the surface.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the things that Nick Wright cited as disingenuous,

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Speaker 4: a lot of them are you know, career team related,

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Speaker 4: you know, which, especially as you get older and later

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Speaker 4: in your career, it can feel like you are obfuscating,

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Speaker 4: like you're any any truth telling. Meanwhile, you're protecting sensitive information,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: I think. I think also when it comes.

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Speaker 4: To calling it a career altogether, a lot of people

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 4: don't know how to hit the end record button on themselves,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, when it's really time to

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Speaker 4: like sort of finish the tape and start, you know,

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Speaker 4: hemming things in a little bit. Tom Brady did the

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Speaker 4: same thing, you know, Are we attacking him for being disingenuous?

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Speaker 3: It's tough. It's tough to lay down the sword.

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Speaker 4: And then, in terms of the vaccination status and whether

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Speaker 4: or not he was inoculated. I think the reason why

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Speaker 4: that became such a concern was because there were specific

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Speaker 4: medical parameters put in place during that time regarding the

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Speaker 4: protective equipment you were supposed to wear around the media

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Speaker 4: and the press, and he was considered to be one

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Speaker 4: of the players who didn't have to wear that. You know,

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Speaker 4: whether it's wearing a mask or social distancing whatever. Whatever

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Speaker 4: the rules were at that time, I'm foggy on them

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: now four years later. But that's the reason why that

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Speaker 4: became such a big story. So I'm not defending Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I think he is a confusing character. I do think

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Speaker 4: that he probably puts himself in front of the media

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Speaker 4: enough that we should we should all have an opinion,

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Speaker 4: because I think he wants us all to have an opinion.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise he wouldn't put himself out there as much as

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Speaker 4: he does. I mean, there are plenty of great athletes

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: who don't. Kawhi Leonards are great, yep, you know, but

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Speaker 4: he's a quiet.

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Speaker 3: Man, you know.

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Speaker 4: But Aaron Rodgers likes to have his name out there,

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Speaker 4: so I mean, clearly he's looking for people to have opinions,

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Speaker 4: and many people do the only thing.

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Speaker 1: I feel about this is. I respect Aaron for doing

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Speaker 1: that every week, because not all athletes do. But if

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Speaker 1: and Nick's a really smart guy, like if it really

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Speaker 1: is DISENGENU is about all these things and I don't

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Speaker 1: know for sure it's a lot of it's hearsay, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is It's it's not gonna end well for him

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01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: in New York. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American,

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian. Now coming up next,

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Speaker 2: Okay, we are looking now that we have the new

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Speaker 2: twelve team college football playoff, we are looking at the

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Speaker 2: odds of teams to make the playoffs. So we will

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Speaker 2: start with you, Jared. I know there's one team that

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Speaker 2: you have circled highlighted in bold. You're all over it.

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Speaker 3: It might rhyme with.

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Speaker 1: Roll Schmid Schmid. Yeah, well I'll start it with this.

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Speaker 1: I think this is the most fascinating market in all

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: of college football this year because we don't know right

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: the denominator has changed, the amount of teams that are

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: in have changed, which changes the math all over this market.

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: But right now, Alabama is a coin flip to make

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01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: the College wall Playoff. That would sound normal if there

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01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: were four teams, but there's twelve, and I think a

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: three loss SEC team absolutely has a chance to get in.

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01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: So Nick Saban out, Kalen de bore in right like

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: that is a massive shift. Just wrap your head around

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: that for a minute. I mean it is. We're not

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01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna watch Nick Saban coach culture ball this year. Just

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: a completely different regime in Tuscaloosa. But let's be honest,

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01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe is back six in the Heisman last year.

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: The skill position group is new, but I hope with

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: Tabor they can plan some kind of a scheme to

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: get these very talented, all top one hundred recruits into

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: the mix. Right you haven't. You're not going to know

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: any of these guys' names. They're not household names at

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: the skill position group for Alabama like in year's past.

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: But I think there's talent. The one name you might

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01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: remember is Jeremy Bernard who actually played for Washington last year.

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: He was the fourth receiver on that Washington team that

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01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: had three guys drafted in the top ninety in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I think there is talent. It's just about how

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Speaker 1: the Bor brings it all together. Defensively. He hired his

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01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: former Indiana colleague Kane Womack is DC, so you're going

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Speaker 1: to see a bit of a shift with their scheme.

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01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: But again, the talent is all over the MAC. It's

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Speaker 1: can Kaalin de Bor bring this group together and can

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Speaker 1: they not lose the third game because they play the

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Speaker 1: tough game against Georgia and then they play at LSU.

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: But other than that, guys they're gonna be favorite in

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Speaker 1: every game they play this year.

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Speaker 4: All right, So Notre Dame is one of these teams,

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 4: and I might be stopping all.

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Speaker 3: Over Brian no here because we might be on the

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: same path. But OK. Yeah, Marcus Freeman, third year coach.

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Speaker 3: I like him.

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 4: I think he's a good leader. I think he's the

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 4: right leader for this program. They don't get the conference

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 4: champion as an independent, you know, auto bid, but there's

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01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 4: no way the committee leaves out a ten or eleven

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01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 4: win team, which I'm sure they'll be.

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Speaker 3: They bring in transfer Riley Leonard.

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01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 4: He's going to start a quarterback, Chris Mitchell as a receiver,

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 4: Mitchell Evans as a tight end, both of them very confident.

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01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: They've got a great defensive line. They have future pros

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Speaker 4: all over that defensive line with Crowton.

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01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: Mills up front.

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01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: They got rj Oben out of the transfer portal, so

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Speaker 4: they are a contender. I mean, are they my favorite

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01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 4: to win my personal favorite to win the national title?

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01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 4: Probably not, But this defense is stacked and they've got

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 4: a very competent passer at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I like Notre Dame a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say take the Irish to make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs and.

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Speaker 1: Good night, good night.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's up. But the other thing, this is the

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01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: outside the box id I have? We know a group

1503
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: of five team is going Yeah, so let's say you

1504
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: make three different bets, whatever your unit size is. Let's

1505
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 2: let's say one hundred bucks, right, you might bet way

1506
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: more or less. Let's say you bet Liberty, Boise State,

1507
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: and Tulane, or just pick three group of five schools.

1508
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 2: If you hit on one of those three, you're making money.

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that a bad approach to take. If you're

1511
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: just trying to throw a couple at darts and you

1512
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: don't want to say, hey, is uh is Tennessee or

1513
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: Missouri gonna make it? Maybe you go to the group

1514
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: of five route and that could be uh.

1515
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: This market move all year. It's gonna be fun.

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: Come it up.

1517
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: What does the price is right have to do with

1518
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: NFL win totals?

1519
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh?

1520
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: What is up? Everybody? Happy Saturday to you? Fox Sports Radios.

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: Count Down to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM, is back

1522
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: first show of the new football season, which is nearly underway.

1523
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: These games are almost about to count. You know, we

1524
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 2: got preseason action, but college football starts up for real

1525
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: pretty soon. We are thrilled to be back here with you.

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01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: So we want to focus in on the NFL here

1527
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 2: real fast. So I call this the three win rage range.

1528
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: So it's a good exercise to do if you're looking

1529
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: at the season win total market for NFL teams. So

1530
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 2: what's the three win range? Well, think of the price

1531
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: is right, you guys are prices right fans?

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: I would own.

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01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go back and watch them so we

1534
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: can get some more ideas for these segments.

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01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: That's right.

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01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 2: I just love this. Here's the golden road. You know,

1537
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: we'll just rip off. Here's let go.

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01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: But the range game, when Bob barr was just running things,

1540
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: the range game was they'd have an item or I

1541
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: don't know, say it's like a dining room furniture set

1542
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: or something, and they would have all these prices on

1543
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: this range. And so the contestant would wait as the

1544
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: little lever went up, up, up, he would wait for

1545
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: orshi the right range of the prize, what the prize

1546
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: was worth, And Bob Barker would always make a joke. Now,

1547
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: don't say stop, because it takes three weeks for us

1548
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: to get this thing working again or whatever. So think

1549
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: of that as it relates to win totals. For NFL teams,

1550
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: what is their three win range? For instance, take a

1551
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: team like the Dallas Cowboys. I personally think their three

1552
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: win range is between ten and twelve wins. I think

1553
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: they'll have a record of ten and seven or twelve

1554
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: and five, somewhere in that range. So if you do

1555
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: that for random team in the NFL, it's a good

1556
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 2: exercise because the Cowboys are at what nine and a

1557
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,759
Speaker 2: half for the season. So if I think their range

1558
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: is ten to twelve wins, I am hammering the over.

1559
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: If someone says I think it's more like nine to

1560
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: eleven wins, you still should be betting the over right.

1561
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 2: If your range is there, you've got nine wins that's

1562
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: on your low end, ten and eleven that gets you

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: over nine and a half. So it's an interesting exercise

1564
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: to run through. I mean, I don't know what you

1565
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: guys want to start with. You want to start with

1566
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: the Jets, Jared, Well, what do you think the Jets

1567
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: three win range is? What are you expecting this season?

1568
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: So the Jets are I would say the Jets are

1569
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: a team that I struggle with this. I went through

1570
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: every team last night, and I I tried to ballpark it,

1571
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: and the contingency with every team is who is their

1572
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: backup quarterback? If they have a disaster at the top,

1573
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: is it a complete fall off or can they at

1574
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: least stay competitive. The Jets are in an actual the

1575
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: advantageous situation there this year, unlike last year where Aaron

1576
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 1: Rodgers is not one hundred percent. I think Toarrod Taylor

1577
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: actually can compete. I think the Jets range this year

1578
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: is I think the ceiling is obviously very high, but

1579
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: the floor is higher than last year because of Taylor.

1580
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: So I think nine is kind of the floor. I

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: think nine to eleven really, but I think ten to

1582
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: twelve makes a lot of sense for me too. I

1583
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I think the Jets are a ten win

1584
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: team this year. I really do.

1585
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. I think they're a double

1586
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 4: digit win team. I would put the floor at the

1587
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 4: exact same spot. New York is going to be a

1588
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 4: good football team because guess what, even though they were

1589
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 4: a seven win football team last year, they were a

1590
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 4: good football team.

1591
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: They had a.

1592
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 4: Terrible quarterback, or I should say they had terrible quarterback. Play,

1593
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 4: and this is what happens when good football teams have

1594
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 4: bad quarterbacks. They're bad, you know. So I think that

1595
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 4: the Jets have easily the biggest improvement at quarterback year

1596
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 4: over year with a healthy Aaron Rodgers, even if because

1597
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people are saying, well, what is he

1598
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: gonna look like after the Achilles, even if he looks

1599
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 4: like seventy percent of himself, seventy percent of Aaron Rodgers

1600
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 4: is like eighty percent better than what they had a

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01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 4: quarterback last year. So I'm gonna agree with Jarrett here.

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01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go nine, ten to eleven. That's the range

1603
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 4: for the Jets. Somewhere in that range.

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. The stat I love the most

1605
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: from last season as it relates to this season. Jets

1606
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in twenty twenty three. Last year, they combined for

1607
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 2: eleven touchdown passes and fifteen interceptions. If Aaron Rodgers is

1608
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 2: the guy all season long, he's not hurt, you think

1609
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,440
Speaker 2: he's gonna do better than eleven touchdown passes and fifteen interceptions.

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01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the world five weeks right, first five weeks, he

1612
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 2: might have more than eleven touchdown passes. So yeah, I'm

1613
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: on the Jets bandwagon too. I don't know why. It

1614
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: seems like everybody who jumped on the Jet bandwagon for

1615
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 2: last season, it's like maybe twenty percent of those people

1616
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: are still around on this season's bandwagon. I don't understand it.

1617
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers doesn't rely on sheer athleticism, and now he's

1618
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: got the Achilles thing going. You're like, I don't know,

1619
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: He's not that guy. He's still gonna dissect you throwing

1620
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: the ball. He's a precise passer, so he doesn't rely

1621
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: on athleticism the same way other quarterbacks do, and so

1622
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have as many questions as some do about Rogers.

1623
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: I think him mixed with an elite defense. I have

1624
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: them as a double digit win team too.

1625
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: O line much better this year. Olufashano top fifteen pick,

1626
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: might not even see the field. That's an ideal scenario.

1627
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: For the Jets. Yeah, that is absolutely So give me

1628
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: your team that you feel the strongest on, and then

1629
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: team that you feel the weakest about in terms of

1630
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: their three win range. We'll start with you, Rich, who's

1631
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: a team that you are really firm about where you're like,

1632
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: I think the arrange three win wise, I feel really strongly.

1633
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Detroit Lions ten eleven twelve all day long. I

1634
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 4: think that they could repeat and be a twelve win

1635
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 4: team just like they were last year. Chicago got better

1636
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 4: at quarterback. We assume the Vikings got worse at quarterback,

1637
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 4: and and when you look at Green Bay, I think

1638
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 4: they're going to be about level with where they were

1639
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 4: this year and we're just focusing on the division. They

1640
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 4: had a tough schedule last year. I believe in Dan Campbell.

1641
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 4: I believe in the collection of talent they've put together

1642
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 4: another year with the same voice at offensive coordinator. Ten

1643
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 4: eleven twelve for the Detroit Lions is probably as secure

1644
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 4: as I feel about any team in the NFL.

1645
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: Check your group text. I just literally literally that's the

1646
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 1: first line my not it's Lions ten to twelve wins.

1647
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 2: I sure to got so Rich is stealing your stuff?

1648
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1649
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: Rich into my Google sheet last night.

1650
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 3: It stole the Look at this, that's incredible.

1651
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: Lion twelve wins. And again, what did we say during

1652
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: the future segment the parlay futures with covering numbers. They

1653
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: have been the most consistent team against the expectations of

1654
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: the market over the last three years, not just winning games.

1655
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: It's hard enough to win in the NFL. You gotta

1656
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: cover too. And I know they were a dog in

1657
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: a lot of those games, but that actually speaks more

1658
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: volumes about them that they were not expected to cover

1659
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: games because they were underdogs, and they still ended up covering.

1660
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: In those early years, they've been favorites a little bit

1661
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: more now recently. I'll give you another team that I'm

1662
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: very confident about, and it's on the downside, though, the

1663
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Patriots are gonna struggle this year. I so the biggest

1664
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: bet I've made in the NFL so far this year.

1665
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: You guys know, I'm always transparent about how much I bet.

1666
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: I'm usually a one hundred to two hundred dollars better.

1667
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of the average bet. Five hundred dollars for me.

1668
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: That's a five unit wager on Patriots under five wins. Wow,

1669
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: So to me, three to five, like, really it's two

1670
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: to four. But I'll give them the benefit of the

1671
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: doubt that maybe I pushed this because I just cannot

1672
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: see six wins on this roster. They have, besides the Chargers,

1673
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: the worst skill position group in the NFL. And the

1674
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Chargers are better because they have Quenton Johnston when he's healthy,

1675
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: but he's not healthy all the time. But if Johnston's healthy,

1676
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers are better. But regardless, bear bones for New

1677
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: England and the quarterback situation is dire. There is not

1678
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: a lot of meat on the.

1679
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: Bone for this time, no interesting stuff. I feel the

1680
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 2: strongest about the Cowboys' d Cowboys. We've talked about this before.

1681
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 2: I would give their three win range between ten and

1682
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 2: twelve wins. They've won twelve games each of the last

1683
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: three seasons. I think a lot of people are are

1684
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: overlead down on them. That's the best way. Overlead down

1685
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys, because they fizzled in the playoffs. They

1686
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: got blown out or handled at least by the Packers.

1687
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: Backers easily won that game. But I think getting Trayvon

1688
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: Diggs back from injury is a big deal. Matched with

1689
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons, of course you've got Dak, You're gonna get

1690
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: CD Lamb back. I don't know why they're dragging this

1691
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: thing out. But for the people that are like, oh,

1692
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: the heavens are falling CD Lamb, it's like, do you

1693
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: think the heavens are falling with the Niners? With Brandon Nyyuk.

1694
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: Do you think the heavens are falling with Jamar Chase

1695
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: not being there for the Bengals right?

1696
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 4: Like?

1697
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think that's the case. The Cowboys are

1698
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: a team you want to fade them in the playoffs, fine,

1699
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: but they've been a really good regular season team. I

1700
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: feel strongly they're gonna be a double digit win team.

1701
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 2: How about the team you feel weakest about. We'll go

1702
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: back to you, Rich, who's the three win range where

1703
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: you're like, man, this could go either way. It's boom

1704
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: or bust that I really don't know how it's gonna

1705
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: shake out.

1706
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: I think it's the Washington Commanders.

1707
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 4: I have such a hard time with how I feel

1708
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 4: about this team because I've believed in and dan Quinn

1709
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 4: all throughout his coaching career. I think he's one of

1710
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 4: those one of those names that doesn't get discussed enough

1711
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 4: in terms of players love playing for dan Quinn, they

1712
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 4: love playing in that defense. I think that that's spread

1713
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 4: that love spread throughout Seattle when he was there with

1714
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 4: the Falcons, obviously as a defensive coordinator. When he was

1715
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 4: brought over with Mike McCarthy's staff in Dallas, and we'll

1716
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 4: see how it looks as a head coach. Again with

1717
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 4: the Commanders, it all comes down to, as we know

1718
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 4: in this league these days, their quarterback play though, and

1719
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels is such a wild card. I think he

1720
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 4: could be Vitamin C to an offense that needs a

1721
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 4: shot in the arm, and this offense desperately does, and

1722
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,440
Speaker 4: so that could be wildly successful.

1723
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 3: We could look at all of a sudden.

1724
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 4: Especially in an NFC East where there's winnable competition there.

1725
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 4: You know, the Giants, they're not world beaters, you know.

1726
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles has had their struggles, especially against Washington's roster.

1727
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 4: Both of the games that they played against Eagles in

1728
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: last year were absolute wars. So I could see I

1729
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 4: could see potentially all that improvement. However, if Jayden Daniels

1730
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 4: can't play, they are so screwed.

1731
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 3: It's just like we're right back to where we were

1732
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 3: last year with a four win football team.

1733
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 4: So I don't know whether to say they should be

1734
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 4: slight improvement, you know, kind of the four to six range.

1735
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if it will be light year's improvement

1736
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 4: like the seven to ten range, or if this is

1737
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 4: gonna be one of those two win football teams that

1738
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 4: you know they're gonna dip before they get better.

1739
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 3: I I have no I have no bearing on the Commanders.

1740
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you on that. I would go

1741
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 2: with the Titans. Rich the Titans. That's a tricky one

1742
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: for me because a lot of this hinges on Will Levis.

1743
01:30:55,680 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: Mister Mayo. Yeah, I Will Levis has a good season,

1744
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: which I think he's capable of, the Titans could have

1745
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 2: a really good season. And when you look at offensively,

1746
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: a couple of the upgrades. You bring in Calvin Ridley,

1747
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: you bring in Tyler Boyd, who is a good slot

1748
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 2: receiver with the Bengals, and then you also bring in

1749
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 2: Lagerius Sneed, who was awesome last year for the Chiefs.

1750
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 2: I know there are some concerns about his knee, but

1751
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 2: Lageriousneed was fantastic last season. And maybe this isn't a

1752
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: great long term acquisition, but for next season, I can't

1753
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: see Lagerius Kneed just going from hero to nothing, you

1754
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I think if Will Levis

1755
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 2: is good, I think the Titans could have a good record.

1756
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 2: If Will Levis stinks, which is also possible, yeah, their

1757
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,839
Speaker 2: record could be really bad. So a three win range,

1758
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty difficult to figure it out. With

1759
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 2: the Titans, I think they're a boom or bust type

1760
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 2: of team.

1761
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with that. Yeah.

1762
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 4: And there's so many of those teams with now lesser.

1763
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 4: So when you start poking around like the Giants, I

1764
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,879
Speaker 4: think there's huge bust potential there. But if Daniel Jones

1765
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 4: has a confidence season like we've seen in the past,

1766
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 4: and and we we know about this head coach, I mean,

1767
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 4: he he has squeezed a lot out of some pretty

1768
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 4: desperate situations. It's it's I look, I mean, I don't

1769
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 4: know if I'm in or out on Brian Dable. I

1770
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 4: think this season is going to determine a lot for me.

1771
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 4: But but that's another team that I have a hard

1772
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 4: time just pinning a three win range on. The Carolina

1773
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 4: Panthers is another team. Love the hiring, love their new

1774
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 4: head coach. Not sure if I love Bryce Young. I

1775
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: and a lot of people are out on Bryce Young.

1776
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: I'm not yet.

1777
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 4: I think you gotta give it time to bake, you

1778
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta learn how to play at this speed.

1779
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 4: There are guys who you know, have excellent careers who

1780
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 4: are a little slow to warm in terms of catching

1781
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 4: up to the speed of the NFL game. Bryce Young

1782
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 4: looked pretty good in that Alabama system. It didn't happen overnight,

1783
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 4: you know, he worked his way into becoming a starter there.

1784
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens with the Carolina Panthers with a

1785
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 4: new voice at the.

1786
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,480
Speaker 3: Front of the room. Yeah.

1787
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,719
Speaker 2: And that's what I love so much about the NFL

1788
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 2: is we can make all these arguments that make a

1789
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 2: lot of sense right now. Yeah, and a lot of

1790
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 2: it is based on paper. But we know that the game,

1791
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: the season doesn't play out based on paper. No, you no, Like,

1792
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: just look at last season. Joe Burrow goes down the

1793
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: Bengals are nine to eight. You know, look at the Chargers.

1794
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 2: The Chargers were a five and twelve football team. And

1795
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: on the positive side, the Texans they go ten and seven.

1796
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 2: The year before they were three thirteen and one, and

1797
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: they've got a rookie quarterback in CJ. Stroud who was

1798
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 2: saying before the season, yeah, I've got their three win range.

1799
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 2: I'd say between nine and eleven games they win, Like

1800
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 2: no one was saying that, And that's what happened. So

1801
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 2: it's an interesting exercise but we're not saying this is gospel.

1802
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 2: You know, this is just what we're predicting.

1803
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely not gospel at all.

1804
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 4: And like you said, a lot of these things that

1805
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 4: we'll say now, and this is true for anybody who's

1806
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: ever drafted a fantasy football team, ever placed a bet

1807
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:17,879
Speaker 4: at a at a sportsbook window.

1808
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 3: You know how this works. It's twenty twenty hindsight.

1809
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 4: You know, all of a sudden, the season starts playing

1810
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 4: out and you're like, how did I not see this coming?

1811
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 4: Of course X, Y or Z happened this offseason, and

1812
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,520
Speaker 4: so of course.

1813
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: You know this team is great.

1814
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 4: You know, it's just it all becomes so clear when

1815
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 4: you have all of the information.

1816
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,280
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Speaker 2: All right, guys, we're looking at a couple of studs

1845
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 2: from last season if they're gonna run it back or

1846
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,799
Speaker 2: take a step back this season. We'll start with Packers

1847
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 2: quarterback Jordan Love. So, Jordan Love had a great year.

1848
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 2: Do you think that it's gonna continue? Now are a

1849
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: couple of numbers. So, last season he threw for four thousand,

1850
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty nine yards. This year at BETMGM,

1851
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,799
Speaker 2: his passing yards prop is at three thousand, eight hundred

1852
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: fifty and a half, so that would be a little

1853
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: over a three hundred yard haircut. And then also the

1854
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 2: passing touchdowns thirty two last season at BETMGM. For this

1855
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 2: season the line is twenty seven and a half. What

1856
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 2: do you think about old Love with the Packers? Does

1857
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 2: he run it back or take a step back.

1858
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in experience, and I think what

1859
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 4: they the Packers did by virtue of circumstance. Really, I

1860
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 4: think if they if they had it their way, Jordan

1861
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 4: Love probably would have been their starting quarterback sooner. But

1862
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 4: the situation that presented itself with Aaron Rodgers and the

1863
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 4: long kiss goodbye in Green Bay. I think that got

1864
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 4: sorted out much clunkier than they wanted it to. But

1865
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 4: in the meantime, Jordan Love was learning from a future

1866
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. He was enjoying being coached well during

1867
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 4: that stint. And I think that the Green Bay Packers

1868
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 4: can repeat their offensive success this year, especially when you

1869
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 4: look around that division that they specifically play in. We

1870
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 4: were talking about JJ McCarthy's injury earlier. The Vikings got

1871
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 4: a huge question mark, the Bears have a huge question mark.

1872
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 4: Ken Caleb Williams actually play at this level. And the

1873
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions are who they are. I think we can

1874
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 4: we can speak with some certainty that they look like

1875
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 4: a double digit win team all day long. So I

1876
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 4: look at the Green Bay Packers as being either the

1877
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 4: best or or a close second in their own division,

1878
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 4: and I see Jordan Love as sort of repeating the act.

1879
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 4: He looked very sturdy and confident and comfortable in that

1880
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 4: system last year. You can only assume year two is

1881
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 4: the full time starter. It's gonna get better.

1882
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the schedule is not. I mean it's tough, but

1883
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 1: it's not crazy tough. There's no roadblocks to him not

1884
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: hitting this minus injury. I think a lot of these

1885
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 1: quarterback prop markets are games played bets, because, unlike receivers

1886
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 1: are running backs where they can be a schemed apt

1887
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: or you know, double covered, you can't scheme out a

1888
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: quarterback like he either throws for three hundred yards or

1889
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't. It really doesn't matter who he throws to

1890
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: the yards of the yards. The touchdowns are the touchdowns.

1891
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 1: The ball always originates from his hand. So to me,

1892
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: this is a games played bet on Jordan Love. There

1893
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: is no reason why if he plays all seventeen, even

1894
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: if he only plays sixteen games, he can't reach four

1895
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: thousand yards. And I to me, that's where I feel

1896
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: about now. The Packers. I think as a team, I'm

1897
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: not as high on them as the market maybe is.

1898
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: But Jordan loves stats. As long as he plays enough games,

1899
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is gone, the security blanket is gone. They

1900
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 1: need him to perform at a high level. So to me,

1901
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: if he plays sixteen or seventeen games, I don't see

1902
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: any way that this yards and touchdowns. Touchdowns maybe a

1903
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: little more volatile, but yards for sure, goes over.

1904
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: I see a way, I see motile ways. What's the path?

1905
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 2: First off, Jared, I love you. You're an upstanding citizen,

1906
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: a law abiding citizen. I may add you know I'm

1907
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 2: gonna disagree on this one as far as like you

1908
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 2: said it, the touchdown passes market is a little more volatile.

1909
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: That's the one I would focus in on. So maybe

1910
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: not a complete disagreement, but twenty seven and a half

1911
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 2: touchdown passes. I like the under on that. And I'll

1912
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 2: give you a couple of reasons why.

1913
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 3: One.

1914
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: I would look at Mahomes. Okay, just follow me on

1915
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 2: this one. Mahomes when he was a first year starter

1916
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: like Jordan Love was, last season, Mahomes threw fifty touchdown passes.

1917
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 2: The next season he threw twenty six now, And then

1918
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: look at more recently, Mahomes two years ago forty one

1919
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, last season twenty seven and he only missed

1920
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 2: one game. So defense is a just and I see

1921
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 2: that happening with the Packers. I also think Josh Jacobs

1922
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 2: is gonna fit in really well. He might do even

1923
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 2: better than Aaron Jones. Josh Jacobs is a really good

1924
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 2: running back. Now, I like what he brings to the table.

1925
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 2: One other thing to keep in mind, Jordan Love is

1926
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,480
Speaker 2: a great nerd. Stat you always say is Jared great nerdstaff?

1927
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: That's Jordan Love. Three hundred of his five hundred and

1928
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 2: seventy nine targets went to pass catchers with at least

1929
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 2: three yards of separation. Hmm, okay, that was number two

1930
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Jordan Love had a great season last year,

1931
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 2: I take nothing away, but what if those receivers aren't

1932
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: as open this season. Some of that had to do

1933
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: with him with you know, eye movement and you know,

1934
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 2: like getting the defense to react and put them where

1935
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 2: he wants them, right, like manipulating the defense. Not all

1936
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: of it's gonna go away, but let's say it's a

1937
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: little bit of a different story. Could that impact his

1938
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 2: touchdown throws and his yardage abs? So freaking lootely? So, yeah,

1939
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 2: if he gets dinged up, they're both going under. But

1940
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't, don't be surprised if they go

1941
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: under as well, because there are a lot of things

1942
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 2: that play that might not sync up the same way

1943
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: as last season.

1944
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: It's fair.

1945
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, here's what I will say. He really passes

1946
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 3: the eyeball test.

1947
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 4: Like when you take a look and you think about

1948
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: you think about Jordan Love down the stretch of the

1949
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 4: season where he was fearless with the football. Granted he

1950
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 4: had good separation from his receivers like you pointed out,

1951
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 4: but there were tight window throws I remember specifically in

1952
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 4: clutch moments, and he's got the arm strength to you know,

1953
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 4: throw the football through the eye of a needle. He

1954
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 4: protected the football well, super important, especially when we start

1955
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 4: talking about, you know, splitting hairs. Amongst the elite talent

1956
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 4: in the NFL. What makes Lamar Jackson so different, for example,

1957
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 4: from Patrick Mahomes. They're superlative talents, but Lamar Jackson's had

1958
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 4: some major gaffs protecting the football in the postseason.

1959
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 3: It's really hurt his team at times, you know.

1960
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 4: Whereas Patrick Mahomes has been more careful with the football

1961
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 4: and has been more clutch in general, Jordan Love has

1962
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 4: a little bit of that. I'm not saying he's a

1963
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:02,879
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, but there's some of that there. He's athletic

1964
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 4: when he needs to be too, big bodied, strong runner.

1965
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 4: You know, there's there's a little bit of Josh Allen

1966
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 4: in him. You know when the moose gets loose out there.

1967
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 4: He's a tough man to break, to bring down, to

1968
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 4: tackle and wrap up.

1969
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 3: So there's a lot to his game that I really respect.

1970
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 4: Again, touchdowns can be a vital stat but in terms

1971
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 4: of yardage, this is a passing league now, and the

1972
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 4: green Bay Packers have their next in line as a as.

1973
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 3: Potentially a great passing quarterback.

1974
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 4: I mean, think how spoiled green Bay has been going

1975
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 4: from far to Rogers to Love.

1976
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: Now, don't even get me started. Meanwhile, my team, the Jets,

1977
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: has had Rogers for a year, and I've had to wait,

1978
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: like like it's like Christmas when you wait on Christmas

1979
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: morning and your parents are like, yeah, I'm sorry, Sanna

1980
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: got lost. We'll see you next year.

1981
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Oh.

1982
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: But I think, I really think Jordan Love is gonna

1983
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: have one of those years where we back on it

1984
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: and we say it was a kind of corner turning year,

1985
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 1: like the expectations are very high, but there are still

1986
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. And I was very high on

1987
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: him last year. Brian. I remember you and I butted

1988
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: heads on Jordan Love a couple times last year, and

1989
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: I think I might have been right. But I don't

1990
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: think I'm right about the long term, because I do

1991
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 1: think they need I don't know if I'm a hundred

1992
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 1: percent sold on the running game yet, because if it's

1993
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 1: not Jacobs, who has not been able to stay healthy

1994
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 1: for most of his career, you're gonna need aj Dillon

1995
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: to carry the load. I actually am very excited about

1996
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 1: Marshall Lloyd, the kid they draft from US See. I

1997
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: think he might be a sleeper Rookie of the Year

1998
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: kind of guy if Jacobs does go down. But the

1999
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: running game is gonna matter a lot here, and I

2000
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it's as effective as it was last year.

2001
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 1: Maybe it is, maybe it'll be more effective. Maybe Jacobs

2002
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: will fit in just like a glove and he's perfect

2003
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: in green Bay. And if that's the case, then yes,

2004
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Love can have one of those eleven

2005
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: twelve win seasons in Green Bay, can be right at

2006
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the tippy top. But man, the market's really high on

2007
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: the Packers this year and last year we got to

2008
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: buy low. Right, what was the total seven and a

2009
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 1: half wins? I think on green Bay to the over

2010
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,799
Speaker 1: now it's nine and a half, which means they've gotta

2011
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,440
Speaker 1: win double digits in order to meet the market expectations.

2012
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm there.

2013
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 2: On the Packers. Well, the running game means a lot

2014
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 2: to us here at Fox Sports Radio as well. And

2015
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 2: we have the Craig Ironhead Hayward of Update Anchors. That

2016
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 2: would be one Isaac Loewen Kron three yards and a

2017
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 2: cloud at dust and a few bruises on top of it.

2018
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 2: He's got the latest.

2019
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 7: Boy, those were the days, weren't they. Craig Ironhead, Hayward,

2020
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 7: Christian Okoye oh Man Nigerian Nightmare.

2021
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know.

2022
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: One of my favorite NFL quotes ilo was Ironhead. He said,

2023
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 2: you need one yard, I'll get you three. You need

2024
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: five yards, I'll get you three.

2025
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 3: Ah.

2026
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 7: Yes, I was a harbinger of modern day running back

2027
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 7: value in the NFL.

2028
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 8: Ironhead was ahead of his time.

2029
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 7: Well, we begin fellas with the NFL because today's preseason

2030
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 7: action kicks off at the top of the hour from

2031
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 7: Baltimore with the Ravens hosting the Atlanta Falcons. Then at

2032
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 7: one pm Eastern, we've got two more games kicking off,

2033
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 7: the New York Giants visiting the Houston Texans and the

2034
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 7: Chicago Bears hosting the Cincinnati Bengals and Fellas. The turf

2035
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 7: at Soldier Field is beginning to trend right now.

2036
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh.

2037
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 7: Caitlin Sharkey of WGN posted a series of pictures that

2038
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 7: show noticeable seams on the field.

2039
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 2: Good, what is this the vet in Philadelphia?

2040
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 8: And it's not even artificial turf.

2041
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune posted quote GM

2042
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 7: Ryan Polls and assistant GM Ian Cunningham are inspecting different

2043
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 7: spots on the field looking at the turf. This isn't

2044
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 7: a standard pregame routine. The field isn't as bad as

2045
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 7: it can look from an elevated view, but it's not

2046
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 7: in tip top shape. Team is definitely looking into this. Unquote.

2047
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 7: By the way, one note for context. Last weekend, Soldier

2048
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 7: Field hosted three shows by Metallica on their.

2049
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 8: Two world tour.

2050
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 2: Sure there to blame blow Metallica, Blame it on metal.

2051
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 3: Just blame it on metal metal.

2052
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, anyway, that's what's trading Metallica.

2053
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, I LOOE. It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown

2054
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 2: to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. Shortly after the show,

2055
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,439
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2056
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,479
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2057
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,559
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2058
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,720
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2059
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and

2060
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: you'll see the show posted right after we get off

2061
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,719
Speaker 2: the air. I had to mention dan Orlovsky at ESPN,

2062
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,520
Speaker 2: who I think does a great job. He put out

2063
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 2: a top ten list of quarterbacks and it's not just

2064
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 2: your standard. Here are the top ten quarterbacks. He broke

2065
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 2: it down in seven different categories. Okay, there was one

2066
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 2: that jumped out to me. I hate to harp on

2067
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: the negative who goes straight to critical vill but I

2068
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:24,720
Speaker 2: have to so on rushing ability. The top ten quarterbacks

2069
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 2: in terms of rushing ability according to dan Orlowski, He's

2070
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: got Joe Burrow number eight. He's got Kyler Murray number nine.

2071
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 2: How is that the case at all? I know Joe

2072
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Burrow can scramble around and make some plays. Kyler Murray.

2073
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 2: Just if you want to go by numbers, Joe Burrow

2074
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 2: rushed for eighty eight yards last season in ten games.

2075
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray rushed for two forty four in eight games. Wow,

2076
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 2: so Kyler Murray was plus one fifty six in two

2077
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 2: fewer games. How is Joe Burrow a better running quarterback

2078
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: than Kyler Murray? That makes zero sense?

2079
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, I agree, I think that.

2080
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 4: I think that's sometimes when you analyze different aspects, especially

2081
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 4: instead of like you know, sort of taking the whole

2082
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 4: picture and saying, all right, so if I'm going to compare,

2083
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 4: I just named two quarterbacks, Dak Prescott to Josh Allen.

2084
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 4: Who's better? Well, obviously Josh Allen. So let's move down

2085
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 4: the list and then once we have a tougher discussion, Well,

2086
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 4: that's where the rubber meets the road and you have

2087
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 4: to start really splitting hairs. But when you start breaking

2088
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 4: it down by category, you can get paralyzed by all

2089
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 4: of the analysis. And I think that must have been

2090
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 4: what happened because Kyler Murray, I mean, he just shouldn't

2091
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 4: be that low on the list altogether. I mean, not

2092
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 4: only is he in eighth place behind or ninth behind

2093
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, but he probably should be closer to the

2094
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 4: top five in terms of rush at that position in

2095
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 4: this league.

2096
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2097
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's behind Anthony Richardson, who's played what six games, like.

2098
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 2: I think four?

2099
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, last like barely even played. Justin Fields is

2100
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: on the list, and again I think that makes sense.

2101
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: But like, it's tough to put Justin Fields on any

2102
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback list. I don't care what even if

2103
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 1: it was top ten quarterbacks named Justin, I still don't

2104
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: even think he would make that list. I think, and

2105
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 1: there might be who knows, I might be selling short

2106
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterbacks named Justin over the years.

2107
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: I don't have the database in my brain. But yeah,

2108
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: this is an interesting list, Like Dak Prescott's in the

2109
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 1: top ten of the rushing ability list, Like I don't

2110
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: consider him a running quarterback. I think Mahomes it makes

2111
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 1: sense if you put the scrambling in there. Obviously, Lamar

2112
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: Jackson and Josh Allen have to be first and second.

2113
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 1: If they're not, then this list is completely ridiculous. But yeah,

2114
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: some of these lists, You know how I feel about

2115
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: the list, Like a lot of times it's done as clickbait.

2116
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what Dan was going for here.

2117
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 1: I just think he kind of, uh, who knows, maybe

2118
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: he labeled them differently. Maybe rushing ability was really uh

2119
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: something else said. We're not really sure what it really

2120
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: what he really meant with this.

2121
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 3: You know.

2122
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 2: The tough thing is sometimes you need someone to read

2123
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: your stuff, you know, give you some feedback. And I

2124
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 2: know there are some moments where he's like, oh yeah,

2125
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: after reconsidering, that doesn't make sense, but you kind of

2126
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 2: you gotta gotta stick to your guns, you know what

2127
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, sure, that's gotta be tough. This is

2128
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 2: interesting too, though. This is a number within that dani

2129
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 2: Orlovsky piece that makes a lot of sense. How about this.

2130
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, there were three hundred and eighty four

2131
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 2: designed quarterback runs league wide. Okay, three eighty four. Last

2132
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 2: season there were eight hundred thirty two.

2133
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:46,919
Speaker 1: Wow.

2134
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's completely changed. And that number is down from

2135
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: the previous season when there were nine hundred nineteen designed

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Speaker 2: quarterback runs league wide. So we always talk about it's

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01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: a passing league, and it is. But you're saying a

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01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 2: lot more designed runs than you did, just like what

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01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: nine years ago? Completely different.

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01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and it's because the college game really leans

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01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:13,480
Speaker 4: on that as a huge part of most of these offenses,

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01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 4: and as a result, with such a short on ramp

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01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 4: for most of these first time head coaches, they need

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01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 4: production out of their young quarterbacks immediately. How many staffs

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01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 4: right now have a young quarterback and a first time

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01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 4: head coach. A lot of them, And classically that's what

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01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 4: happens in this league is you have a bad team,

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01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,600
Speaker 4: you replace the staff, you bring in a new quarterback,

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01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 4: and if you don't get.

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Speaker 3: Results quick, you're going to get fired a lot quicker.

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 4: Than you used to in this league. Teams will move

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01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 4: on from you immediately. Just look at Frank Reich in Carolina.

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01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you get nine games with Bryce

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01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 4: Young and then they said next, You know, it's like

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01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 4: a bakery. He was at the counter for nine games.

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01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 4: So you got to get your pastries quick in this league.

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01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 4: So you better start finding a way to creating offense.

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01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 4: And one of the fastest ways to do that with

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01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 4: a quarterback who's used to run in the football is

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 4: continuing that trend when they make their transition to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's rich Ornberger. Fence State All American Jared

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01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst is with us. I'm Brian no Hey.

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Speaker 2: we close it down in style rapid fire. We each

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Speaker 2: have three selections of peace. We will share them with you.

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Speaker 2: and crushing the updates and crushing life. Top of the

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Speaker 2: hour up on game. You're in great hands, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 2: TJ Hushman, Zada Plaxaico Burrist. Less than ten minutes, they

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Speaker 2: got you covered. All right, we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, we start with you. What are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: NFL preseason? I know it's not sexy, but it's what

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01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: we have this weekend, in a little bit of college

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01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: football next weekend, but we're kind of still in preseason

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01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 1: mode for the next couple weeks. So let's try to

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01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: take advantage. Because I'll be honest, I see a little

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01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: value here. I'm gonna bet the Texans in the first half.

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01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay one and a half points. They're facing

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01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: the Giants today. I trust CJ. Stroud and Davis Mills

2187
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: over Daniel Jones making his preseason debut and Drew Locke.

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01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, Texans offense, especially with Stroud on

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01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 1: the field, they looked great last week. They were up

2190
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: seventeen to nothing at half over the Steelers. They put

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01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: up a bunch of points in the Hall of Fame

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01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: game as well to the rain shorten it. So I'll

2193
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: take the Texans in the first half over the Giants.

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01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't like the Chicago field conditions right now, but

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01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: I still like the Bears today to cover six and

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01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 1: a half against the Bengals. Coming off a massive win

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01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: over the Bills thirty three to six. Teams coming off

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01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 1: a win of twenty or more in the postseason tend

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01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 1: to keep the ball rolling. They're covering at sixty three

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01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 1: percent the following game, So I think that momentum for

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01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in front of that home crowd for the

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01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: first time in his career, going to get it done

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01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: against the Bengals and I think the field conditions guys

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01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: favor the offense. Right if the defense is kind of

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01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, iffy about their footing and

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01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 1: where they're going to stand. I think that favors points.

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01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: So we'll go over thirty six and a half in

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01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Bengals as well.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we are oppositional on that because of the field conditions,

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01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to take the under on the

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01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 4: thirty six and a half. I think the result of

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01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 4: poor field conditions in the preseason could be a lot

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01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 4: more players who are going to get field time that

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01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 4: they're hoping to rely on this season aren't going to

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01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 4: get field time.

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 3: So I think we could see a.

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01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 4: Depreciation of stars or players that they're actually going to

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01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 4: lean on in this game, especially as the game rolls on.

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01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take the under thirty six and a half.

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01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 4: There the Ravens Falcons, which kicks off in about five minutes.

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01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the under on the thirty four and

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01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 4: a half and Giants at Texans. I do like how CJ.

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01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 4: Stroud has looked. I think they've seen enough of them.

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01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 4: I think it's an early hook thirty nine and a

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01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 4: half is the total there.

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01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under there as well.

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01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 4: So I'm going all under today in the NFL preseason.

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01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: The undertaker under rich undertake it.

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01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: He's alive, you know. Okay, I'm gonna do one NFL

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01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: preseason game and then I'm gonna go baseball in WNBA

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01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 2: on you huh.

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01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh boy.

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01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 1: WNA is back.

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. It was a good day for me

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01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 2: actually yesterday. Okay, all right, I'm gonna go NFL preseason.

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 2: Give me the Chiefs. Their starters are playing against the Lions.

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01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 2: The Lions starters are not playing, so I'll take the Chiefs.

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01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 2: This numbers ticked up a little bit, but I still

2239
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: like the Chiefs. Minus two and a half in the

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01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 2: first quarter. I will take that bet. It's ticked up

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01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: a little bit too much in the first half. That's

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: why I went back to the first quarter with KC.

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01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Arizona Diamondbacks. They've been playing

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01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 2: good baseball. Six game winning streak was snapped last night

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01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 2: against Tampa. Zach Gallon on the Mounta tonight. I think

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01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 2: they rebound. I'll go d Backs minus one twenty and

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: the WNBA. I'm looking at the sky and I'm looking

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01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 2: at the Sparks. You know, my girlfriend and I were

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01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 2: playing like basketball in a pool yesterday and every misshot,

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01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: I was like, La, Sparks, they are freaking terrible out

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01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: of the gate to get to the New York Liberty.

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01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 2: Give me the under in the Sky Sparks game. That's

2253
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 2: at one sixty and a half. First team to seventy five,

2254
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 2: I think wins this thing. I don't think both are

2255
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 2: getting over eighty. So I'll go.

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01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: You've been enjoying BETWNBA this year. What's that You enjoyed BETWBA?

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01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely been loving it. Yes, all right, we

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01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 2: are back. Baby, enjoyed the action today. We'll catch it soon.