WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Scouting Red Birds 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:06.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:09.320 Cowboys. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.800 This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.880 Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.800 Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Nicky Spagnola. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.240 I think we need to fix the lead in on. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:36.000 We need to Yeah, right, uh huh? Are you and Savannah? 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:43.640 Are you going to pronounce Savannah? There you go? Yeah, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.960 not to be confused. Not to be confused with Hugh 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.760 Millen who spent just about a week here at Dalla 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.040 Range with the Cowboys. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:53.840 Was he here? 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:54.440 Was? 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.120 It was like a month, a month. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.480 Long enough for me to go to his apartment in 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.480 Valley Ranch and do an interview with and that was 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.680 the kiss of death for his cowboy that was there. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.080 Yeah, that's right, all right, he was done, by the. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.240 Way, Yes, yes, he was. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:07.759 All right. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.600 Here we are. We're not done, at least not right now. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.760 We're not done. Never ready for some football on Sunday afternoon, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:19.520 three twenty five, the Cowboys and the Cardinals and Mickey. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.400 Don't we have a special guest right off the top. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.440 We do, Bill, And as matter of fact, it was 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.080 one of our teammates on our. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:32.040 Train show, right all right, she was the the savannah 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.320 of years gone past here and look where we got her, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.119 right right, as if it was our deal with anh to. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:45.040 Two football teach, Danny Surrek. How are you like that 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.080 we go behind enemy lines here with a friendly faced 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.720 Danny Surrek. Who has how long now have you been 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.480 with the Arizona Cardinals football club, Danny? 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.400 It is almost two years to the day. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.960 Actually, wow, slowne by yeah, to a mid season acquisition. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.239 It was a trade made between the Cardinals. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.000 Of the I think a couple of Cardinals wanted goke that. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.000 So she's a reporter producer. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:22.200 There, reporter producer for the Arizona Cardinals. And practice is 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.840 underway here at the Star in Frisco. What about they're 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.760 in Arizona and not quite yet. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.680 We're two hours behind you right now. So practice will 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.040 start in about twenty minutes or so for us, all right, 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.560 a little early, a little earlier when we practice it 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:38.920 here this. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.400 With the weather, so well, give us an overview of 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.960 what of this Arizona Cardinals team. Off to an zero 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.320 to two start, and of course had a big lead 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.800 against the Giants twenty nothing at halftime twenty eight to 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.799 seven in the third quarter, Giants came back and won 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.040 by three, and they lost the opener on the road 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.520 at Washington by four. So two losses by a total 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:01.919 of seven points. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.840 Right this Cardinals team, what's interesting is there were a 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.320 lot of question marks, a lot of doubts coming into 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.240 the season, and I feel like they have exceeded those 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.440 expectations so far. And they've played in the two games 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.000 where they could have won. And I know that doesn't 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.160 change the record, as you could have or you should 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.560 have won, but this team is performing better than what 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.680 expectations want. And you're missing a lot of your star players. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.680 You're bringing your quarterback Josh Jobs. Yeah, six practices before 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.800 the season opener in Washington, and there truly was a 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.560 night and day difference between Week one and week tea 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.200 with Job and this offense. The defense has looked very good. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.800 The problem has been the second half really before quarter 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.960 struggled Cardinals with an outscore twenty seven to nothing in 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.240 the first fourth quarter these last two games. I'm not 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.960 sure if that is the offense struggling and having a 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.240 defense out there and having a standin a problem, but 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.320 it's something that they have to get corrected, especially against 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.920 this Caboy defense that is dominant to say the leaf Yeah, Danny. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.760 If you look at the scores, you lose to Washington 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.000 twenty to sixteen and then to the Giants thirty one 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.960 twenty eight. So it's two losses by a total of 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.640 seven points. So they were kind of right there. And 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.559 I noticed one of the things that has hurt them 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.640 was the amount of injuries they've suffered, especially obviously at 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:30.040 the quarterback position, but now along the defensive line too, right. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.960 So they put al j. Collier, who was looking very 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.120 good throughout preseason in that first game's being inspired by 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.160 the Cardinals this offseason. He's on iron with a biceps injury, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.000 and then Carlos Walkin suffered a biceps injury early on 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.760 in the game Sunday against the Giants. And the reason 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.359 that host is because this isn't a Cardinals defense that 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.679 has a lot of star power. There's no micro harsion 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.800 to know, there's no DeMarcus Lawrens, right, no Trayvon Digs 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.160 like the Cowboys aps. So specifically on the defensive line 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.000 with the outside line backers, they are relying heavily on 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.960 a rotation, really five or six guys on that D 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.200 line against the Giants, they were also about one of 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.720 their starters and letting go with the shoulder injury. Now 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.240 he's back to practice that he should be good, but 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.919 not having Collier and not having walking really hurt what 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.479 this defense was trying to do upfront, because now you're 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.440 not going to be able to have that kind of rotation. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.279 Players are having to have more snaps, higher snap counts 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.920 than what his coaching staff may be intended early on. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.600 So I would assume there's going to be some different adjustments, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.880 probably still a rotation, but it's not going to look 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.040 the way that they had intended the way that we 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.520 had seen success from that defensive line through the first 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.440 one and a half days before Carlos Watkins went down 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.600 with his biceps injury. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.880 Hey Danny, this is Everson. How are you ever said? 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:49.599 Miss you man? 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.920 What's up? Man? Had a good time? 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.360 Come on, man, and we were attached at the hip. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.640 All of a sudden they just got rid of those. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.720 But anyway, listen, we have been dogging the Cardinals over 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.039 here in this booth, just so you know. We at 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.440 this point we try not to have too much disrespect 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.840 for them because that's going to be a home home 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.120 game for the Dallas Cowboys. I must this is what 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.400 we've been saying. This is what we've been saying off camera. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:17.840 I'm just just telling you this has. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.280 Been going on. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.320 So tell me what's going to change that narrative because 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.200 the Cardinals, they've changed the narrative the first two games 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.640 even though they lost. Uh, tell me what's what's causing 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.320 them to change the narrative about the Cardinals. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.360 Yeah. I think this all just comes down to the 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.960 coaching staff in the culture. And I don't have a 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.760 good way describer other than it feels very different than 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:46.520 it did under this previous coaching staff. Not necessarily not theory, 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.440 but what had coached Jarnson, Gannon and the staff new Germ. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.880 Manage your money off, support, have thought. You can really 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:57.760 feel the efforts of this team is not quitting. That 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.880 was something that one of our Skaty Game and Thompson 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.000 talked about after the game Sunday was that's important that 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.479 this team is sticking together early on because that is 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.640 what carries through the entire season. But the passion and 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.080 the aggression that this team is playing with really this 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.200 defense is new now there's a fine line penalty has 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.520 been an issue through two games with this team, but 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.840 you can feel that culture change and winning at home 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.720 has not been an easy task for this team the 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.400 last year and a half. The only home win they 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.400 had last year was Thursday Night against the Saints. So 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.520 it's really important for this team to kind of set 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.280 that tone and get their home win this week. You're right, ever, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.120 so though this is a very desirable destination for NFL 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.240 fans of all teams to travel at beautiful place, golf, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.480 amazing weather, So I do expect a lot of Tawboys fans. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.800 But this team has to find a way to start 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.480 winning at home and really closing the gate. We talked 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.520 about those fourth quarters struggles. The teams are playing well 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.880 enough to win. Now you have to start finishing the 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.840 game strong, holding onto your lead. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.240 Now, Danny, the Cardinals passing offense is slightly outweighing their 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.880 rushing one hundred and seventy yards to one hundred and 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.040 twenty three point five yards. What do you anticipate for 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.240 this game on Sunday? Are we going to pass the 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.320 ball more or the Cardinals going to run more? I 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.120 mean James Connor, He's definitely been an item for the Cardinals. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.280 What are your thoughts there? 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.640 Yeah, it sounds interesting because it doesn't feel like the 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.520 Cardinals have been relying on the pass more so than 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.480 the run Week one in Washington. Just the game plan 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.199 you have to have against hardly the best defensive line 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.920 in the league. Those quick cords onto the passes really 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.120 jobs trying to find connection with his receivers, which took 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.440 some time understandably. So I would imagine that you're going 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.280 to hand the ball to James Connor's riding that momentum 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.280 of the game that he had one hundred and sixty yards, 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.120 who was strucking guys less and right on this game 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.720 against the Giant, and I think rite that. I think, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.280 especially with this defense, you have to find a way 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.920 to wear down the Taboys defense, right, You have to 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.000 find a way to try and weaken a dominant defense, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.800 find any sort of weakness or holes that you can 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.719 and really try and shove the ball down their throat. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.920 I do think that the Cardinals are still looking to 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.200 solidify more of that downfield presence. You've got the seed 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.040 and Olie Brown. You've got the seed and Ronda Moore 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.880 in that spot. You've got sides when you're rooking Michael Wilson. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.160 It's just about finding those connections. A big connection has 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.560 been tied end Beckert, who's coming up an AH scale 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:38.040 injuries himself, and there was mixcommunication. It didn't look like 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.599 the balls are being thrown in the right place and 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.600 the one but that connection looked a lot stronger Week 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.440 two against the Giants. So I would expect that to 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.760 be a receiver that jobs really starts to rely on. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.800 And just how reliable that dak Ert is and has 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.120 been in his career with every quarterback he's played with, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.959 I would expect that connection to continue to grow. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.319 You know, I would say Danny and Danny's direct Zona 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.360 Cardinals with us here on mixed shots, I'd say Danny 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.120 that you could make the case Arizona is one of 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.080 the real surprise teams in the league through two games, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.280 even though they are zero to two, especially when you 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.800 consider what happened in the offseason with a coaching change. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.960 DeAndre Hopkins released the trade of a former first round 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.080 draft pick, Isaiah Simmons, and then he got Kyler, who 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.640 obviously is on injured reserve, to start the season. Buddha Baker, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.000 five time Pro Bowler in safety, also on injured reserve, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:34.600 and probably the biggest reason that Arizona has been able 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.080 to do what they've done the first two games of 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:41.280 the season is a quarterback that arrived about three weeks ago. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.520 And we saw the same quarterback, Joshua Dobbs at Christmas 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.280 time last year. He was signed a week before he 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.040 started against the Cowboys and played the whole game against 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.040 the Cowboys as a Tennessee Titan. And I'm really impressed 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.800 with this guy, and not only his play on the field, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:02.240 but highly intelligent guy aeros based engineering major four point 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.880 at Tennessee. I'm wondering how in the world has this 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.840 guy not gotten more of a chance than he has 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.160 already in his NFL career. In twenty seventeen draft pick. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.520 By the way, he was the one hundred thirty fifth 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.079 pick in the draft, same the same exact spot that 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.520 Dak Prescott was drafted the year before. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.800 Yeah, it's pretty crazy. This is gonna be the first 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:25.120 time in Dumb's career that he's starting a third straight game. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.840 But you can see the confidence growing with jobs and 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.000 commanding the huddle a little more and that really was 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.760 a big difference from week one to week to was 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.920 that command. He had a much quicker release, and we 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.560 also saw the mobility. He had a twenty three yard 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.840 rushing touchdown where he trucked maybe or McKinney getting into 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.240 the end zone and then again broke through a tackle 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.240 on a two point conversion. That's what this coaching staff 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.480 was looking for. That was part of the release in 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.360 Cole McCoy and bringing Josh Oobbs day before your final 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:05.480 preseason in Minnesota. It's not quite obviously the Kyler Murray 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.280 level of having that two different quarterbacks, but it is 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.439 much more the style of what this coaching staff wants 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.760 to have. I think something that helps Josh Jobbs kind 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.760 of get activated here is that he has some familiarity 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.120 with a little bit of the coaching staff offensive Cornat 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.400 or Jupet Sam the quarterbacks coach Is Rowell for both 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.640 spent time with Jobs when he was in Cleveland for 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.320 a little bit, so that helps the connection as well. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.439 But it's kind of funny of when we first got 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.560 to talk to Jobs in that first week and he saying, yeah, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.360 you know, it's not just learning the offense. I'm also 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.959 having to learn people's names. I'm taking stamps from these guys, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.559 that being the practice that comes up to me and 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.040 interviews himself like, that's not an easy situation when we 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.960 come in and you've got the practices before you're leading 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.160 the team. So because Dobs has been here for such 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.640 a short amount of time, one week's work of practice 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.520 really can make all the difference. And just seeing the 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.120 gross for week one in Washington in week two at 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.480 home against the Giants, I really do you think we're 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.839 going to continue to see the elite atting into week 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.319 three hosting the Cowboys. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.320 You know, Danny, they obviously knew that Kyler Murray wasn't 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.160 going to be ready for the start of the season. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.800 So what ended up being the impetus that kind of 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.800 at the last minute. I think I saw the trade 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.280 went down for Dobbs August twenty fourth to kind of 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.680 change course right at the last minute, give up on 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:28.440 Colt McCoy and then also depend on Clayton Tune from 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.000 right here in Carrollton at Hebrew And High School to 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.400 be the backup quarterback. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.040 That's right, Yeah, I think it was just seeing what 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.280 you had and how that was going to fit with 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.880 what you want. Again, this coaching staff wants the quarterbacks 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.000 he doesn't just have that arm strength and an activity 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.520 for that long ball, but also their legs starting to play, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.719 being able to get out of the pocket, being able 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.360 to get out of the pocket run a little bit themselves. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.000 And I think just the point in his career that 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.800 wasn't what cult McCoy had. Really wasn't the type of 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.800 or back he ever was, but it just wasn't what 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.000 this coaching staff was looking for at that point. I 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.479 think what you saw through the off season, joint practices, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.520 three season games kind of solidified that. And while the 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:20.160 rookie Clayton too as the sparks, it didn't seem like 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.040 he was ready enough to be your week one starter, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.800 whether that was technique, what work was leading to some 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.160 high passes and decisions that were being made, it just 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.240 didn't seem like two was going to be able to 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.160 step up, kind of like the way Dak Rescott was 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.000 able to step up early on. It just didn't seem 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.520 like Clayton tune was going to be ready for that 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.640 in time. And I think the reason you keep him 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.120 is because you like him and you see the potential 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.920 that's there. This coaching staff was interested in josh Bobbs 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.160 earlier in the off season, again because of those connections. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.080 It just the trade or contract problems are what prevented 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.080 the Cardinals from getting jobs early than they did. But 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.600 I think that Dobbs just really stits more with what 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.680 this coaching staff wants and how they want to run 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:08.520 this offense. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.880 And we know that Danny needs to run to practice, right, Danny. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.040 He's got a few more minutes. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:17.520 Yeah. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.720 The other thing. The other thing. The other thing I 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.480 think about that is I don't think Josh Cleveland wanted 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.800 to let go of Dobbs yet. And then Dorian Thompson Robinson, 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.840 their fifth round draft pick, just lit it up in 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.560 the preseason. So, Mickey, I think what probably happened on 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.400 that access Well, yeah, so you had Deshaun Watson there, 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.720 you have dtr there, and so all of a sudden, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.360 after the rookie performed so well in the preseason, that's 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.880 when Kevin Stefanski said, Okay, uh, tell us what you'll 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.680 give us for Joshua Dobbs. And so I think that's 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.600 probably the way what changed on that. But I think 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.000 it's real credit to him to be able to come 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:58.240 in there and quickly, so quickly, you know, just just 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.080 get in there and and make the transition and and 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.480 basically take over as a starting quarterback. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.400 And they got they got a fifth a fifth round pick. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:06.880 There you go. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.400 Yeah, it probably would have been a They might have 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.200 been releasing him. I don't know at Dandy camp, but 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.240 they like him so much they gave up a fifth 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.920 round pick. Well, Danny, we appreciate it. And uh, I 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.560 know you'll be decked out in Cardinal red, but your 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.320 heart will be with Cowboy Blue. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.920 Right, you don't have to answer that, Danny, you don't 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:27.720 have to that. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.320 Wait, I'll give you. I'll give you an easier one 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:41.160 before we leave. Okay, m I Z you will have 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.600 a black and gold on on Saturday. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.120 Are you as. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:49.720 Yeah? 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:50.880 What's the deal with that? 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:51.720 Danny? 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:52.360 Are you as in? 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.040 Are you in love with the thicker kicker like Nicky is? 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:08.760 All right, Danny Surrect, We appreciate it, and good luck 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.880 to those Arizona Cardinals on Sunday ever since says they 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.000 will need it, Yes they will. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.359 I hope you guys have a great rest of your season. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.120 All right? 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.160 All right, Danny Surrek in the Valley of the Sun, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.480 and we continue with more mix shots. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.560 In just a moment, picker Kicker, I'm Dak Prescott, quarterback 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:31.840 of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.560 And they snapped the press guy who looks right, it's 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.639 not there. 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