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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Episode fifteen ninety six, Times Up Running Pockets.

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Speaker 3: This means even though that country has water, South Africa

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Speaker 5: Other people, like sell your rights to water.

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Speaker 2: That's like a private citizens right. Oh I didn't know

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Speaker 6: as dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of in that camp where it's a

439
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Speaker 2: little it's a little.

440
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Speaker 3: Unfair to put the whole like it's it's like voting

441
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Speaker 3: for Trump thing on Oprah.

442
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Speaker 2: I think it's a little unfair.

443
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I don't think she's anyone's

444
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Speaker 3: ideal choice. But I stand by the fact that if

445
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Speaker 3: she makes it out of the primary, I really don't

446
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: give a fuck what people think. I'm voting for her

447
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: if it's her versus Trump or Pens or anybody at GOP. Like,

448
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Speaker 3: I hope that's the lesson we learned from Well only

449
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: know in twenty twenty, but I hope that's the lesson

450
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Speaker 3: we learned from twenty sixteen is we really don't have

451
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Speaker 3: the luxury of bullshitting. It's better to have someone in

452
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Speaker 3: office you can push than not. And you know, I

453
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Speaker 3: would hope that the American populace is prepared to vote

454
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Speaker 3: and look at qualified candidates who have history and stuff.

455
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Speaker 3: But we just rejected the most qualified. I shouldn't say

456
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Speaker 3: rejected the most qualified person I've ever seen run for office.

457
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: A president lost. I'll put it that way because I

458
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Speaker 3: feel like, and I do this too sometimes with language,

459
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Speaker 3: but it's important to note that she won the popular vote.

460
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Speaker 3: She you know, like it like it wasn't some round

461
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Speaker 3: resolution of like and this is America now, no one

462
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Speaker 3: wants that bitch like it wasn't just that.

463
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Speaker 6: And my thing is that I agree with rejected because

464
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Speaker 6: we did. We go, we don't want you here, yeah,

465
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Speaker 6: to vote, That's what we said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel, I mean, I feel I would not

467
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Speaker 3: say I won't say rejected, or I'll try to remember

468
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Speaker 3: not to say rejected, because when a person wins the

469
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Speaker 3: popular vote by three million.

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Speaker 2: That's not a rejection.

471
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Speaker 6: To me.

472
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Speaker 3: A rejection is you got your ass kicked, like we

473
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Speaker 3: don't want you. I think the majority of this country

474
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: wanted Hilly Clinton as president, but it didn't happen, and

475
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons a lot of people feel

476
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Speaker 3: so bitter about it, you know. But I wouldn't call

477
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Speaker 3: it a rejection. I would not call what Trump has

478
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Speaker 3: a mandate, but in the general is what I would say.

479
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: I still feel like there's a mandate in America that

480
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 3: it is a conservative country. And now I'm just waiting

481
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: on people to wake up to the fight between like

482
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: can we get free college or not? Is not the

483
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Speaker 3: actual fight that that's truly happening for the soul of America.

484
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 3: It's much more like our black people people are our

485
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Speaker 3: people who immigrate to this country?

486
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Speaker 2: Do they count as human beings? Our Muslims people?

487
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Speaker 3: Is white supremacy the only way Those are the actual

488
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Speaker 3: fights happening. And I think the Obama era, as good

489
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: as it was for some folks, and as much as

490
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Speaker 3: it it got us to a point where we started

491
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: talking in real leftist philosophy, but not necessarily mirroring, mirroring

492
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Speaker 3: what is actually happening on the ground, and you know,

493
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Speaker 3: the fight.

494
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Speaker 2: I hope people don't drop the ball next time.

495
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Speaker 3: I hope we're actually looking at like how are we

496
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Speaker 3: going to secure people's rights as trans people in America?

497
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Speaker 3: How are we gonna secure people's rights? How we're gonna

498
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Speaker 3: get children's health insurance back? Like, those kind of things

499
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Speaker 3: are the things I'm looking at as opposed to Like, honestly,

500
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Speaker 3: to a certain extent, who's really on the ballot is

501
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Speaker 3: kind of secondary.

502
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Speaker 2: To that to me. But yeah, we'll see.

503
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Speaker 3: She got a long way to go before we even

504
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Speaker 3: have to worry about overrunning. Although I do have my

505
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Speaker 3: over twenty twenty shirt on already, so I mean, and

506
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Speaker 3: my pen pussy hats, so like, I'm totally in costume today.

507
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Speaker 3: Even E says your reviews on Yelp are hilarious. I

508
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Speaker 3: follow you, and I always get a laugh when you

509
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Speaker 3: leave review somewhere. I definitely wanted to try some of

510
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Speaker 3: the restaurants you visit based on your reviews. If I

511
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Speaker 3: ever get to Charlotte, help you and Karen recap your

512
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: visit to that pastry shop you were you were invited to.

513
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we went to that tasting yesterday. I guess

514
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Speaker 3: we'll talk about a Sunday.

515
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Speaker 2: But it was fun. It was very fun.

516
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Speaker 4: Because we talked about saying that we had.

517
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Speaker 2: A ball y'all.

518
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Speaker 3: And then the poll was no comments, but we got YELP.

519
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Speaker 3: It was the pole yay nay or nay, yay, yeah

520
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Speaker 3: may or no yay, man or nay.

521
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Speaker 2: There you go, uh yay.

522
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Speaker 3: Fifty eight percent say they like YEP, so maybe I'll

523
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Speaker 3: keep reading my reviews on the show. Thirty seven percent said, man,

524
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Speaker 3: so I think maybe they weren't into it. I don't know,

525
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Speaker 3: or they might not be fans of yelp. Yeah, it's

526
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Speaker 3: a concept, right, And and some people four percent of

527
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Speaker 3: y'all don't even fuck with YEP like that, so I

528
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Speaker 3: feel you, but uh.

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Speaker 5: I like, well, they don't have a need for it,

530
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Speaker 5: like the black One.

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Speaker 6: People said they live somewhere where YEP wouldn't even do

532
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Speaker 6: them any good because there's nothing around to eat.

533
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Speaker 2: Well, to me, that would be mad. Not nay name

534
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Speaker 2: means no.

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Speaker 6: Okay, just just who knows, because it might be better

536
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: stuff out there. But YEP is probably the most popular

537
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Speaker 6: one that most of the used.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

539
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Speaker 3: We had episode fifteen ninety seven, the sex Bot Revolution.

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Speaker 3: We got a couple comments on that one, and starting

541
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Speaker 3: with Cheryl, who says, Hey, Karen and Rod, when you

542
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: were discussing the percentage of people who identify as LGBTQ plus.

543
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: I thought about my own experience. I'm thirty one years old,

544
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: grew up in New York, and I have only recently

545
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Speaker 3: accepted the fact that I'm bisexual. I knew I liked

546
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Speaker 3: both genders from an early from as early as my

547
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Speaker 3: late teens and early twenties, but I never felt comfortable

548
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Speaker 3: sharing that. Because I grew up in a somewhat religious

549
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: Baptist household, I used to watch and read a lot

550
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Speaker 3: of queer comics and films. One day, I threw out

551
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Speaker 3: all of it because I felt so ashamed. I've been

552
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: surrounded by queer identifying friends for most of my life,

553
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: but the church really did a number on my willingness

554
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: to devote that disinformation to others. I felt a lot

555
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: of shame because I did not want to disappoint my family.

556
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: They know most of my friends are queer, but I'm

557
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: not sure how they would accept me. I'm happily married

558
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: to a person who knows that I'm not straight, and

559
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: he's so nonchalant about it. So refreshing. I finally told

560
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: my three closest friends. One already had assumed even though

561
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'll ever tell my mother outright.

562
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm happy that I'm finally comfortable about a part of myself.

563
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm not actively hiding it. And if people find out,

564
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: they just find out. Sorry for the ramble, I really

565
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: enjoyed listening to show.

566
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: I got my white husband hooked on the show. Hook

567
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: take care of it.

568
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, appreciate you listening, and we will

569
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Speaker 3: allow you to have a plus one.

570
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: To listen to the show for the white man.

571
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Speaker 5: Shout out to your hood the baby, and.

572
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: He may come to the cookout. Okay, I'm saying he

573
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: can come to the cookout. I'm offering him one of

574
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: my passes, the same one I offered to Justin Timberlake.

575
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: He can have.

576
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know if Justin's gonna make it this year.

577
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: His won't get rejected. Now Justin's not. I don't know,

578
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 5: but I don't think.

579
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Speaker 2: Oh, so you're vouching for this white man. Is that

580
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: what you're saying here.

581
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I can see justice is getting quicker

582
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: than this dude.

583
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: They'd be like, anybody know, anybody claim this one. No,

584
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 5: they gonna raise their hand. They're gonna like, Okay, we'll

585
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 5: let you in, but justin come. Ain't nobody putting their

586
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 5: hands up claiming them all right?

587
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: Marcia says, I agree with right.

588
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: Robot slavery is terrifying and wrong, unlike the zignbie apocalypts

589
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: or robot take over something that maybe could happen.

590
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a.

591
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Scientist, but I feel like if it's more applausible. Do

592
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: you ever see these videos or they test robots and

593
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: kick them and stuff and show how they can move.

594
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: I always feel bad for the poor robot. It just

595
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: looks so mean, even though the robot doesn't even have

596
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: a face or anything. Y'all seen those of four.

597
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Speaker 5: One day, the robot's gonna fuck them up.

598
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: Right, It's just gonna wake up and crush his ass

599
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: to death.

600
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Speaker 6: And I'll be seeing them, particularly on Facebook, Like I

601
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: think I seen one with them when like three or

602
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 6: four generations of like the robot, and first it was

603
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 6: like big and bulky and there was more of to

604
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: be on the battlefield, you know, how you could put

605
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 6: a soldier on. It be about how how much you

606
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 6: could carry and you know, could carry away to a soldier,

607
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 6: and they was showing first it was big, and then

608
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: each time it was stronger but smaller, and you can

609
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 6: see them like kick it over. You see it like

610
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 6: wobble and set itself up. I'm like, yeah, one day

611
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: they gonna kick it and it's gonna become Johnny five

612
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 6: is alive and zeff the fuck out of them because

613
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 6: they tied t of being kicked.

614
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

615
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: She's gonna wake up and terminate mode.

616
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: Right.

617
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Speaker 2: Anyway, the poe was would you order a sex spot?

618
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Speaker 7: No?

619
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Speaker 2: Or yes?

620
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Speaker 3: Thirteen percent of y'all said y'all would order a sex spot.

621
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Speaker 3: It's like y'all don't even hear us when we talk

622
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: on this show. All right, y'all got it. Eighty six

623
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: percent said no, so good. Thank god for y'all, But

624
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Speaker 3: the rest of y'all.

625
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Speaker 6: M m m.

626
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Speaker 3: We got episode fifteen ninety eight, Thanklessness, where we kind

627
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: of went on a long tangent about activism and blackness

628
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: and all this shit sparked by an article about this

629
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Speaker 3: family that was just getting done like in the heat

630
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Speaker 3: of the night.

631
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Speaker 2: Racism wrong, that's.

632
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: Old school right now.

633
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: There was a like they was catching some my time

634
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: to kill racism in twenty eighteen, and by the way,

635
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Speaker 2: they have a go fund me up.

636
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: Now I don't know if they made the goal, but

637
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: Reagan go man, the actor, she tweeted it out. So

638
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: if you guys have a chance, maybe go check that out.

639
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: But they I'll see if I can find it and

640
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: put in show notes. But they have a go fund

641
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: me to pay for their legal funds. Because I was like,

642
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: you know, what do you do when you just don't

643
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: have an organization locally or somebody that can come help you,

644
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, these are the stories that

645
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: normally certain activists used to step in and raise money

646
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Speaker 3: for people and stuff.

647
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Speaker 2: And we don't really have that all the time anymore.

648
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: And that's fine.

649
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, maybe family doesn't want that, maybe

650
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: people don't have the resources. This is not saying people

651
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: should do it. I'm just saying it made me think

652
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: about how revolutionary the idea of a d NAACP was

653
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: in uh like ninth in the early eighteen and nineteen hundreds,

654
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: like I mean late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds.

655
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: That was a revolutionary idea like to fix you know,

656
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: to combat racism, and now it's antiquated to us. You know,

657
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: it's just and that that happened in one hundred years,

658
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: you know.

659
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: That's why.

660
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: Anyway, Dia says on the NZ's I'm sorry, babe, dot

661
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: net defenders, I do believe the article is poorly written

662
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: in my professional opinion, but even removing my personnigity nature

663
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: of journalism, I believe Grace's story. Well, I'm sorry, pretty

664
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: much apologize, so believing Grace is not the issue.

665
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

666
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I when I read it, I did find

667
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: that there were parts of it that were like, I

668
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: don't know, weird that they left in there, Like the

669
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: stuff about the wine felt a little weird, and I

670
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: don't know, some of the personal details felt kind of weird.

671
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: I feel like this is the only story where we

672
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: of all the other stories when it's been like an accusation,

673
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: it's just kind of in the facts almost of like

674
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: the actual like this is where I felt I was violated,

675
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: this is the things that.

676
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: This person did to me, And this is the first

677
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: story where it's like, you know.

678
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: It was a Tuesday, I was in the bad nude,

679
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: it was raining, you know, and I'm like, I don't

680
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: who edited this, you know. Anyway, the rub is I

681
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: don't know what I'm supposed to what is supposed to happen,

682
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: or how I feel now that I have this information

683
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: and guess.

684
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: What that is? Okay, say that again.

685
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 5: I wish more people felt like that.

686
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: I really need people to step in.

687
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: Up opinions is flying around where everybody just talking and

688
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 6: nobody knows what the fuck they're talking about.

689
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: I really wish more people could step into that because

690
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: we don't know as far as like all this shit

691
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: is burgeoning territory to a certain extent of women being

692
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: heard and women being able to voice therapy in on

693
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: things that they've dealt with for their whole lives.

694
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: None of this is new.

695
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: Us knowing about it and being able to talk about

696
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: it out in the open is new nothing. The knowledge

697
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: isn't new, the experiences aren't new. The men doing this

698
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: shit isn't new. You know, there's so many men who

699
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: are acting now like there's gotta target on my back.

700
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: So I can't just I mean, so what I'm supposed

701
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: to do? I'm supposed to I don't know, try to

702
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: treat a woman right when you bring it to your house?

703
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: Is that such a crazy thing to think these days? Like,

704
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: so maybe not want somebody to be crying when they

705
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: go home. Is that so out there to think to.

706
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: Explore?

707
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: You know?

708
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: But yet I think a large part of the c's thing,

709
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: and why I caught on a little bit more even

710
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: than some of the other reports, is.

711
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: Because this is the first time where.

712
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like criminal charges or anything are coming,

713
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: and doesn't seem like she wants to press any criminal charges.

714
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: She didn't ask anyone to boycott. She didn't even specific like.

715
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Say and this is because of me too or anything

716
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: like that.

717
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, people been counting me too as groping,

718
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: street harassment, all this stuff, right, But suddenly when it

719
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: came to her account, it was this shouldn't count, but

720
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: it does count. If you've been following the me too

721
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: thing from the beginning. It wasn't just work sexual harassment.

722
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't just sexual assault. It was all kinds of

723
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: things that men do that infringe upon women's autonomy. Right,

724
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: So to hear people try to like downplay this into

725
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: like it shouldn't count or whatever. Well, now people kind

726
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: of sound a little bit like Matt Damon, right, Well,

727
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: Matt Damon said it was certainly we shouldn't count out,

728
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: and everybody got mad at Matt Damon.

729
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: But it's like, and I remember when we read on

730
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: the show.

731
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: I was like, well, he's saying something that a lot

732
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 3: of people think, but they don't like it because Matt

733
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: Damon saying it, you know, and they and Matt Damon

734
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: was saying that basically in defense of his friends, because

735
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: he friends with Ben Affleck. He was accused of growing

736
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: the woman's what he did, grow up a woman's breast

737
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: and butts at parties and shit, he's friends with Luis

738
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: c k or he's.

739
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: A fan of him or something like that. I think people,

740
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, he had business relationship with Weinstein.

741
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: So with him saying these things aren't all the same,

742
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: people were like, what the fuck you mean? It ain't

743
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: all the same? Na, man, these motherfuckers gotta go. But

744
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 3: that's because they don't like those people. People like a

745
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: Caesar sorry, right, at least the people that I know.

746
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: So they having a harder time dealing with it because

747
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: they don't want to just quote unquote throw him away,

748
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: which is always kind of.

749
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: A performative thing. Anyway.

750
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: No one really gets thrown away, no one really gets canceled,

751
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: but it's easier to be like, oh, kid rock got

752
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: accused of some shit.

753
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: Fuck him. I don't like him. When it's somebody whose art.

754
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: You consume, who bring himself as a super woke feminist

755
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: type of dude who makes a living off that shit,

756
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: it's harder to throw him away for a lot of people.

757
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: And I think, looking past what they're saying and looking

758
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: at them, I feel like that's the trepidation people I have,

759
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: and is I don't want to throw away this guy

760
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: in his work, and I don't want this to be

761
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: a thing where every time I bring up his name,

762
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: someone's gonna say, oh, you mean that sexual assault or whatever.

763
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: And that's what people are struggling with. And I, you know,

764
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: I say this every episode, but when I say I

765
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: had to step back so I could love people from

766
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: differently a little bit. This is part of that shit

767
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: where I had to step back from people like, Okay,

768
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be consistent on this.

769
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: I see that this is gonna be a thing for folks.

770
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: They got to process it and go through all this

771
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: stuff and come to some sort of conclusion. But ultimately,

772
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: what I would add to this is I don't understand

773
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: how what A Sees Sorry did was not.

774
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: Wrong on some level.

775
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: If you thought Donald Trump's grab him by the pussy

776
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: moment was wrong, I don't know how you reconcile both

777
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: of those things. Because people were legitimately calling that dude

778
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: a sexual assault or when he said that, and not

779
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: because of his past. They were saying off of those comments.

780
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: They didn't go it's because of infidelity. These women are married,

781
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: they said, he that's sexual assault. If you grab someone

782
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: by the pussy, that's a crime. These you know, these

783
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: women are gonna come forward, you know. And when you

784
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: look at his comments in that situation, he owes, Look, man,

785
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: I just I'm famous. When you famous, they let you

786
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: do it. I just go in for the kiss, you know,

787
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: I hey, grab him by the pussy, Okay? I was

788
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: owner like a bitch, Like, is that not kind of

789
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: the same aggressive you know, carry I can hear bumpy

790
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: your table.

791
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: Oh is that not the same aggressive? Like I'm like,

792
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go all in with the kind of creepy

793
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: sexual overtures. Is that not the same kind of mentality?

794
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 6: Was like?

795
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe people feel that it's some difference. I

796
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: guess I just don't feel that's a difference. And you

797
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: don't feel that's a difference.

798
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 5: No, And also for me, I.

799
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 6: My thing is creepy because creepy is subjective and a

800
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 6: lot of people don't want to get into what's considered

801
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 6: creepying and what's not considered creepy because it's all personal,

802
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 6: and saying somebody's a goddamn creep does not excuse them

803
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 6: for their fucked up behavior. And a lot of people

804
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 6: are saying creepy to excuse fucked up behavior. And there

805
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 6: are some quote unquote creepy people to do some fucked

806
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: up shit to hide behind creepiness to excuse their fucked

807
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 6: up abusive behavior.

808
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: And that's frustrating, you know, that's to hear people talk

809
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 5: about that.

810
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: And he's a dude who would say that he's not

811
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: creepy and he does understand women and those other guys

812
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: are creepy and all that shit, you know, not to mention.

813
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's weird to me that people got

814
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: so defensive because she's not escalating it, which she would

815
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: be in every right to be if she really did feel,

816
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: like listen, I was sexually assaulted, and I want to

817
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: go to the cops and I want to press charges

818
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: and I want this motherfucker to pay some type of way,

819
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, that being her rights, if you know, if

820
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: she wanted to do that, But since she didn't even

821
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: say that, and it didn't even seem like that's what's happening.

822
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: You know, she even said to her reasoning like, part

823
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: of this is because I don't want other women to

824
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: have this happen to him, to them dealing with him.

825
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: And you know, I said when we covered her on

826
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: the show last week, if no other women come forward,

827
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: he'll probably be straight regardless of whatever happened in that room,

828
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: He'll probably be fine, because that's just kind of how

829
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: it works. If three other women come forward, four other

830
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: women whatever, come forward saying this motherfucker did it to me,

831
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden he's gonna have a problem,

832
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: whether people feel like because then it's a pattern and

833
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: people will treat it differently, whether people want.

834
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: To admit that or not.

835
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: Five of these instances are not going to leave people going, oh, well,

836
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: he's just creepy, and that's just how it is. No

837
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: people are gonna be like, this motherfucker does not need

838
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: to be working, you know, And I don't know that

839
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: that's quote unquote fair or not.

840
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: What I do know is.

841
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: I don't understand how the defense of him sounds so

842
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: similar to why they even go to the hotel room, so.

843
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: Similar to you know, then just leave, you know, I mean,

844
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: these are the like I said.

845
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: The comments section tells me why this fits in the

846
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: same movement more so than the story does correct.

847
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: And also for me, what was frustrating is.

848
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: People were talking about things that were actually bigger than

849
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: what she said.

850
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 6: And once you start getting into these outside conversations, that's

851
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 6: what my anger really really came in, because people was

852
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 6: more defending themselves than they were actually defending him and

853
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 6: his actions. Because for some women, they have experience this

854
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 6: and to them what she described to them and their

855
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 6: personal experience, they even though she did not consider it

856
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 6: a sexual assault, they would have considered it a sexual assault.

857
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 6: So these other women are coming out and said, hey,

858
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 6: this shit is fucked up. It's happened to me. I said,

859
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 6: it's sexual assault. So when those people start speaking up,

860
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 6: everybody go, oh, fuck you you lying. She lying is

861
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 6: not sexual assault at all. And the thing is, when

862
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: it comes with sexual assault, it's all that's kind of

863
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 6: subjective too. People don't want to admit that the lady

864
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 6: she wrote this because this was her experience, which is fine.

865
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: She said that I don't consider it. She has the

866
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: right to feel that way.

867
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: But for other people that were speaking out, they were

868
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 6: getting attacked for saying, hey, the shit he did fucked up,

869
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 6: and I consider it a sexual assault, even though the

870
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 6: victim herself said that she does not consider a sexualsault.

871
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: Those are two different things.

872
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 6: So, but a lot of people are were trying to

873
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 6: shut people down for even making this or even coming

874
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 6: to the conclusion that there was any possibility that what

875
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 6: he did was creepy and fucked up and some people

876
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: would consider it a sexual assault. People started being attacked

877
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 6: because they liked him, and instead of them coming to

878
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 6: conclusion that my favorite can do fucked up shit, it's okay.

879
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also my.

880
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: One of one of the things I noticed too, a

881
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: lot of white women wrote defensive pieces of for our

882
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: disease right this week. I can think of at least

883
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: three off the top of my head, I want to

884
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: say out three of them brought up that he was

885
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: a brown man being accused, possibly because he's a brown man,

886
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: and the racial stereotypes of being a brown man in America.

887
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: And this was a woman who you know, accused him.

888
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: We don't know the race of the woman. We don't

889
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: even know what she looks like. We don't even know

890
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: her name. The picture of people were saying, what they

891
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: took a picture together. No, if you look at the

892
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: caption on the article, she with her camera that he

893
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: was so fond of, she took a picture of him

894
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: with someone else, And everyone's face is blurred out in

895
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: the picture except his, So it's not a picture of

896
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: them together. It's not a picture of And they were like, well,

897
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: why they blur their face out? They blurred a dude

898
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: in the backgrounds face out too, So people were really

899
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: willing to jump into this like a white woman trying

900
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: to bring a good brown man down for racist reasons,

901
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: and only.

902
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: That we don't know that, right, and not saying it

903
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: can't be true. We don't know.

904
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're right.

905
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: Nobody was there but them too, So nobody knows.

906
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 6: But for the fact that people act like basically, the

907
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 6: fact that people act like her doing.

908
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 5: This can't move into a larger conversation.

909
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 6: The fact that people act like people saying that it's

910
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 6: some form of violation is a problem.

911
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: A lot of people go, it's no violation whatsoever.

912
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: This shit was just creepy, right, And that's the problem

913
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 6: I have because, like I said, creepy is subjective.

914
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: So it was just one of those things where ay,

915
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 4: some of the stuff.

916
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: That she was describing, I wouldn't have want none of

917
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 5: that shit that happened to me.

918
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: And also what people don't want to get into when

919
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 6: it comes to sex, it's money, because she could also

920
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 6: have done some things because she wanted to do things,

921
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 6: and things may have happened because she felt like she

922
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 6: had to because of the power dynamic in the situation.

923
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 6: And also people make me mad when they act like

924
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 6: power dynamic does not matter when people act like, well, oh,

925
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 6: he's a man. At any time he could have he

926
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 6: could have been violent to her. And people want to

927
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 6: dismiss that conversation when you bring it up, but that's

928
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 6: the true conversation because in most dynamics, men are stronger

929
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 6: than women. And people act like men don't have a

930
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 6: problem with motherfucking somebody telling them, no, men have a problem.

931
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 5: People go, well, it's not me, I'm not talking about you.

932
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 6: I'm talking about other people who women have had interactions

933
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 6: with before that. This happened to people and what's frustrating.

934
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 6: But people try to act like men.

935
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: Getting violent for saying no is not an epidemic.

936
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: They try to act like women come out and say, well,

937
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 6: I flat with him because I knew if I was

938
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: to say no, he would have got violent and raped me.

939
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: I know I sucked this dick because I know if

940
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 6: I would have said no, he probably would have whooped

941
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 6: my ass and left me on the side of the road.

942
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 6: I said yes because I felt obligated to. People act

943
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 6: like that dynamic has no play here and no play

944
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: in other situations where women are sexually assaulted, and it's

945
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 6: one thing where consent could be taken away at any time.

946
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 6: I could say yes and turn around and say no,

947
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 6: even if I'm in the middle of the goddamn act.

948
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: I have the right to say no.

949
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 6: And a lot of this boils down to men feeling like, oh,

950
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 6: people feeling like they have the right to women's bodies.

951
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: You feel like, as a society, I have the right

952
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 6: to your body, And it boils down at something even

953
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 6: bigger than sex pregnant women. When pregnant women are out,

954
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 6: in the situations where pregnant women say strangers just come

955
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: and rub their bellies.

956
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 5: Why Because of society, we feel.

957
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: Like, oh, you're pregnant, I have the right to your

958
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: body and I have the right to touch your body.

959
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 4: You don't.

960
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 5: But that's how society.

961
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 6: Feels, and it's one of the things as a woman

962
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: is frustrating because it's nuanced to this conversation and it

963
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 6: needs to bring in a larger conversation than nobody really

964
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 6: wants to have. These situations are not new, These circumstances

965
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 6: are not new, These power dynamics are not new. What's

966
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 6: new is that, for the first time ever, society as

967
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 6: a whole, particularly men or particularly people in power, have

968
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: to deal with the fact that they are looked at differently,

969
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 6: and they have to deal with the fact that now

970
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 6: they have to navigate things differently.

971
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: Now they have to consider what's wrong with people have

972
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: to be considered things that they.

973
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 6: Never had to consider before. What's wrong with you having

974
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 6: a second guess the situation? What's wrong with you? Checking

975
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 6: again and be like are you good? What's wrong with

976
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 6: having conversations? Because the thing is everybody acts like everybody

977
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: needs to have a conversation, but at the end of

978
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 6: the day, nobody's having conversations.

979
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: And then when shit goes a ray, I mean, awry.

980
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: Nobody knows what.

981
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 6: Happened because nobody had a conversation about what they wanted

982
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 6: to do, what they were going to do, what were

983
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 6: their expectations. And that plays a bigger role here, and

984
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 6: it's bigger than the situation itself. Like I said, the

985
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 6: situation what made me Matt, the things that her her

986
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 6: letter sparked were much bigger, and everybody wanted to shut

987
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 6: down the conversations that her letter created, like the ship

988
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 6: people were bringing up was irrelevant because they liked him.

989
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

990
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: One back to those white women that wrote about race,

991
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: I'd love to see your resume on how you talk

992
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: about race in general, you know what I mean, Like,

993
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: when else are you talking about people's race? Because if

994
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: it only comes up because you like this brown dude,

995
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: then you want to defend him. And now it's you know,

996
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: she's out here trying to lynch this brown man. Are

997
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: you always like this? Is this always gonna be? Is

998
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: this a talking point that always gets brought up? You know,

999
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of people that claim to be

1000
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: in the Me Too supporters and all this stuff. And

1001
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, so, then why'd you have to shut this

1002
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: one down. A lot of people became lean and dune

1003
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: on this week. A lot of people became not this one.

1004
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: You know, this one ain't true. Don't believe her. I

1005
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: believe women normally, but you know, it became that two.

1006
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the counter is disputable or whatever,

1007
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: but it just touched on something in our society that

1008
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: is deeper than the other ones, because see, the other

1009
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: ones are very black and white to people, even the

1010
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: people that are like really fucked up, they're still very

1011
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: black and white on it, like, well that I just

1012
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: don't believe any women ever, fuck them all. And then

1013
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: or there's the you know, we believe women and these

1014
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: guys are creepy rapists and they all need to go people, right,

1015
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 3: But her account, I mean, there's accounts with Harvey Weinstein

1016
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: where women acquiesced to some of his shit through pressure

1017
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: and it happened, and people were like, people like I said,

1018
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: if we would have used it that way, people would

1019
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: have said that was a fucked up thing of use

1020
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: of power violated. He's a creepy dude whatever, you know,

1021
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: But with this dude is different. You know, also because

1022
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: we're blending romance quote unquote with the power dynamic here.

1023
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: You know, he's an older guy, she's twenty two. They

1024
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: went on a date, so then it becomes more like, yeah,

1025
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: well he wanted to fuck, so therefore that's what the

1026
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: date is about. Never mind that she didn't want to

1027
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: so that's you know, it's a mutual thing. But I

1028
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: feel like we look at that as negotiations, you know,

1029
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: and because she did, whether it's because she was twenty

1030
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: two when she's trying to be polite, whether she was

1031
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: afraid of him, because to the credit of the article,

1032
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: she didn't really say she was afraid he was going

1033
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: to be violent with her.

1034
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: So I do want to say I've taken her all her.

1035
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: Word because people injected that into the discussion, and I

1036
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: don't know that that's.

1037
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: What she felt.

1038
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: It sounded like she liked the dude, she wanted him

1039
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: to like her, but she also ain't want to fuck him.

1040
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: And that's pretty like that's.

1041
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: An okay thing we should be able to take say, yeah,

1042
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: that's fine for a woman to feel that way without

1043
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: us didn't turn it into like, well, wasn't rape, because

1044
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: if it wasn't rape, I.

1045
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: Don't understand we're talking about. I was like we're just talking.

1046
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: Well, now we're talking about situation people have way more

1047
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: often than probably even sexual assault. Is this shit right,

1048
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: this quasi gray area of Like, I'm a man, and

1049
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: I've been taught I can push your boundaries even when

1050
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: you set them.

1051
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: I've been told that anything other than no doesn't mean no.

1052
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: I've been told, you know, like and so this is

1053
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: a great opportunity to tell to inform people and educate

1054
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: people how we can switch the conversation from no means

1055
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: no to only yes is acceptable. You know, I didn't

1056
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: think this. I mean, I knew it was fucked up,

1057
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: but I didn't know so many people were gonna be

1058
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: fucked up, like people I know in respect sometimes where

1059
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: it's like, damn you really acting like it's a witch

1060
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: hunt when really, like, are y'all not already kind of

1061
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: practicing this?

1062
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: Like do y'all not check in?

1063
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 6: Like is it?

1064
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like is there no like?

1065
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: Cause I mean I don't know, just in general, that

1066
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: should be kind of something like you cool with this,

1067
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 3: you know, type of atmosphere if you actually care about

1068
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: the other person. But I think because our society is

1069
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: framed around this idea that women give up sex and

1070
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: men pursue it. There's a callousness in the entire industry

1071
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: of sex. You know, it's a calousness to it. It's

1072
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: a commodity that I'm getting from you, not an actual

1073
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: like experience that we.

1074
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: Are having together, like a good service. Yeah.

1075
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: For like, for example, if I want to go out

1076
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: to eat, you know how much of a negotiation and

1077
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 3: discussion normally happens just to pick something to eat. People

1078
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: talk more about where will we go out to get

1079
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: something to eat than they talk about sex. You know,

1080
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: like sex is something that we in our minds have

1081
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: built this this this language for that does include sexual

1082
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 3: assaults and stuff. What we call it romance, you know.

1083
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: But we but we we act like that spontaneousness, that

1084
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: natural vibe, like that's just how it's supposed to go.

1085
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: But that's not Maybe we should reform how we think

1086
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: about that. Shit, Why is that the thing that we

1087
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: call romantic? Why isn't it as romantic to be like,

1088
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, a let me let me get a condon

1089
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: real quick. Why isn't that just as romantic as you know,

1090
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: the movies where it's like I'm gonna shove it in

1091
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: like I don't need cut that scene, you know what

1092
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean? Or like, why isn't it romantic to be

1093
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: like do you like that? Which I always thought was

1094
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: a thing. You know, why isn't it romantic to you know,

1095
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: to I guess took care about somebody, But I don't know.

1096
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: I think people look at it as he is a

1097
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: famous dude. He was trying to fuck, so it's already

1098
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 3: the tone is already set from how he felt and

1099
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: not how anybody else felt, right, And that's kind of

1100
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: that's I think because most people can't see past that.

1101
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: They can't really have this conversation because we have to

1102
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: look at it as equal in opposite, which is yes,

1103
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: he just thought it was a date where he was

1104
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: gonna fuck some twenty two year old girl who liked

1105
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: him and was a fan.

1106
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: That's what he thought. It seems to me from his actions.

1107
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: She thought, Oh, I'm hanging out with a guy I

1108
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: really admire who has this fucking image of the sensitive.

1109
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm not a piece of shit like these other guys.

1110
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: And it sounded like she got really a set that

1111
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: he was just trying to fuck her.

1112
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and people can't ignore that some of his platform

1113
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 6: was on I'm that sensitive guy. I can we cues

1114
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 6: like like, you can't ignore that he ran on his platform,

1115
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 6: and in her mind, she's like, you're doing everything opposite

1116
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 6: of the platform that you were running and and everything

1117
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: that you're standing on. And people act like, well, he

1118
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 6: just a piece of shit. Yes he is right, but

1119
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 6: also you can't raise what he's been putting down in

1120
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 6: the atmosphere and act like she had unrealistic expectations based

1121
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 6: off of what he was putting in the atmosphere.

1122
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, she I mean, like I said, it's we're already

1123
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: framing it around what he wanted to fuck so then

1124
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: everything else is you fucking up his night basically, right,

1125
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, And I don't find that to be the.

1126
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: That seems like a very one sided way to look

1127
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: at it, you know.

1128
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: And people called people blaming her for the downfall of

1129
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: B two movement are as fucked up to me as

1130
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: people blaming women who I also accuse people of rape

1131
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: for actual rape. If you're not grown up enough to

1132
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: go I see hers is different than other women's and

1133
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: still validate that movement, then you're a piece of shit,

1134
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: knowing you would never really fucking with them anyway, Like

1135
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: you just remind me of white liberals that do the like,

1136
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 3: well until this black person said that, I was gonna

1137
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: be totally with Black Lives Matter, but now we'll take

1138
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: your punk ass on it, because it really wasn't even

1139
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: that serious. Like it's so wild to me because this

1140
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: is burgeoning territory. These are discussions we just haven't had,

1141
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: so this was something that was going to come up.

1142
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: And people are basically trying to act like, well, now shut.

1143
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: It all down.

1144
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear anything. And those women that

1145
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 3: said that it's okay to pester in France, they must

1146
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: be right. You know, it's a man's right to a

1147
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: woman's body in the workplace, and that's romance and that's

1148
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: what we call that.

1149
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: Like people are trying to take it one ADM.

1150
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, so you just never really wanted any of

1151
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: this shit to happen, because I'm okay with people going one.

1152
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: Some of these are more actionable than others. That's kind

1153
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: of how it already is. That's how the law is

1154
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: the way it is. You know, even if she pressed

1155
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: charges on this nigga, what would he get? A slap

1156
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: on the wrist, a fine. He's not going to prison

1157
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: for this shit like you like to me, this was

1158
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: less of a less protect disease moment at a well,

1159
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: can we have a discussion about what we are calling

1160
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: sex because women are constantly if you've ever had friends,

1161
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: if you've been friends with women that you know you're

1162
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: close enough to have a conversation with, at least for

1163
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 3: men straight men, I guess, but I'm assuming probably all

1164
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 3: women have already had these conversations many times. But yeah,

1165
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 3: when you talk to them about things that have happened

1166
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: in them sexually, dog, it's like a fucking hard story

1167
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 3: compared to how it is for most dudes.

1168
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 6: Right, And is also one of the things where, like

1169
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 6: I said, it very frustrates me to know end what

1170
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 6: people act like.

1171
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 5: People saying that she was assaulted because this situation is

1172
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 5: more common than people are willing to admit.

1173
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 6: A lot of women were in situations similar to this,

1174
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 6: then don't I mean, then I'm not And like I said,

1175
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 6: she wrote her letter, she's not pressing charges.

1176
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 5: She don't feel like she was valiated.

1177
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 6: But there are women that feel like they were in

1178
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 6: the situation and they were violated, period, And there's nothing

1179
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 6: you could say, dude, that make them change their mind

1180
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 6: about them feeling violated.

1181
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 5: And for the fact that.

1182
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: It was creepy does not mean that there was no

1183
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 6: violation of her body happening. You know, Like I said,

1184
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 6: people use creepy subjectively, and they use creepy to excuse

1185
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 6: fucked up behavior. And I will continue to say that,

1186
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 6: and I will stand by that. A lot of people

1187
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 6: use it because a lot of people go, oh, that's creepy,

1188
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 6: and certain behavior they would excuse, and the same person

1189
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 6: would go, oh, that's creepy.

1190
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 5: Fuck that nigga, you violated me. You can.

1191
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 6: It could be used both ways, and unless you're willing

1192
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 6: to have nuances about that, and why are you using

1193
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 6: it in this situation And you're not using it for

1194
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 6: Harvey Weinstein and you're not using it for Bill Cosby.

1195
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 5: You you don't.

1196
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 6: I don't see people people and people are saying these

1197
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 6: men are creepy.

1198
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: They're going, it's creepy and what they did was fucked

1199
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: up with this dude, it's creepy.

1200
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 5: But no, it's no, no, I no, so it happened here.

1201
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 3: I would take it one step further because you're naming

1202
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: people that have been like actual like many many assaults right.

1203
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: I was gonna take it one further because this is

1204
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: the comparison I had in my mind. And we'll only

1205
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: know if this ever comes up in the future. But

1206
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: imagine that it wasn't a season sorry, Imagine it was

1207
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: Matt Damon. You know the things Matt Damon said in

1208
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: the press and some of the things that people have

1209
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: kind of got on them for, but but not a

1210
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 3: dude that people were like, he's out here sexual assaulting

1211
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: people with people, a person that people are like, I

1212
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: just don't like what he's been talking about.

1213
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: Lady. Imagine if it was him, how would people respond

1214
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: to this.

1215
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: Would they be like, well, see, this is hurting the

1216
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: movement and you need to just calm down and going

1217
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 3: in on this girl and all this shit.

1218
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Or would they be like, fuck Matt Damon, I knew it.

1219
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: That's like I said, I had to step.

1220
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: Back because people really are as faithful to their morality

1221
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: as if they like a person or not.

1222
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: That's just that's the extent of it. I like, this

1223
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: dude is different. I don't like this dude. Fuck him.

1224
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: He can fry.

1225
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: And I don't think people are ever gonna break out

1226
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: of that good bad people whatever, And different is it's

1227
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: just a way of life, and I accept that, and

1228
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: I just leave it at that, you.

1229
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: Know, because.

1230
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: It's kind of disappointed to listen to people part this

1231
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: in a way of like, ultimately, I just want to

1232
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: defend this dude and then and you can kind of

1233
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: tell from the jump off of the conversation it's ultimately

1234
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna be about how do I defend this dude as

1235
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: opposed to let's have a conversation about the fact that

1236
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: this is a every common thing. What do we do

1237
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: to make sure that people aren't taking calves home, crying

1238
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: from people's house, Like what about that? Because she ain't alone,

1239
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: you know, and there's a lot of people that have.

1240
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: The saddest part to me is been listening to people

1241
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: chalk it up to quote unquote bad sex as opposed

1242
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: to like a dude that violated some boundaries.

1243
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: Because when you say bad sex.

1244
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: It's almost like saying I had a bad basketball game

1245
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: or I made you know what I mean, Like I

1246
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 3: had a bad day at work, I made a couple

1247
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: of mistakes. Violating somebody's boundaries sexually or trying to coerce

1248
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: and force them should be more than just bad sex.

1249
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: It should be more than like a faux pad. It

1250
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: should be something that we sit around and be like,

1251
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: how do you keep that from happening again? And if

1252
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna call it bad sex, it's not bad on

1253
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: her part or is it?

1254
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 6: So?

1255
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: Then why are we still focusing on her as opposed

1256
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: to it's bad sex? And this dude needs to step

1257
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: his game up or do better or I hope y'all

1258
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 3: are watching this.

1259
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: This is not what we want? Why is it? Why

1260
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: aren't we doing that?

1261
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: You know, if you if you don't believe, and I'm like,

1262
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: if you have a partner right now that there is

1263
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 3: consenting that will let you try this, try that claw move. Yeah,

1264
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: it is pretty I don't know how you would do

1265
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: that to a stranger and not feel like a piece

1266
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 3: of shit, you know what I mean, like to just

1267
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: whip that shit out on somebody, like yeah, I don't

1268
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: know about that dog. So anyway, all that to say this,

1269
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that this dude is like a serial offender.

1270
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: I don't I've seen a lot of stuff like that.

1271
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: There's you know, I hate to play the middle on

1272
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: some of this shit, but.

1273
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: It's the truth. I have to be honest.

1274
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: Some of the stuff I've seen is kind of like

1275
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: tar and feather him as if he's like, I don't know,

1276
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: a dude jumping out the bushes, raping people and stuff

1277
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: which I don't like. More people may come forward and

1278
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: that be what this is. I personally don't know, and

1279
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say I'm not going to go that far.

1280
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 3: But I do find what he did in this context

1281
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: to be not just creepy and and violating, but also

1282
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: I find the defense of it to be worse than what.

1283
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 6: He did, right, And I think that's where some of

1284
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 6: my anger comes from. And a lot of people that

1285
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 6: defended going well, I wouldn't do that shit. What the

1286
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 6: fuck are you defending? Then?

1287
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1288
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 6: Like, like, that's my biggest pet peeve when people come

1289
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 6: out and they and they want to defend. When I

1290
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 6: turn around and ask them, would you do this? They

1291
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 6: were like, Nah, that shit is creepy. But then she

1292
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 6: can think it's creepy too. What the fuck are we

1293
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 6: talking about here? Why are we having this conversation?

1294
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: Well, and then it's to take it one step further.

1295
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: If this was an account of two dudes, we would

1296
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: not be acting this way, right, agreed, Just saying if

1297
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 3: it was two dudes, we would not be acting so well,

1298
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: let's see guys. It would just be like he raped

1299
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: that dude probably, like it wouldn't even if I look,

1300
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: I sucked this dick twice because I just didn't know

1301
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: what to do. He wouldn't just let me chill one.

1302
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: It'd be a whole lot of like homophobia, like nigga,

1303
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: that make you gay or whatever.

1304
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: But even if the person was like I am gay

1305
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1306
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: People will still be like, well, that nigga raped you,

1307
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: you know, because men have a right to their bodies

1308
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: in a way that women don't correct and especially since

1309
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: had men, so if it would have been like but

1310
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: you know, it definitely would have been considered rape, even

1311
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: if you said I got pressured.

1312
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: Into this or whatever.

1313
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: But in general, though, I just feel like the a

1314
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: conversation could have been had it that just it got way.

1315
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: The whole opportunity was wasted, and.

1316
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: A lot of well meaning people, I mean, I don't

1317
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: call them well meaning, A lot of well meaning people

1318
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: to me sounded just like the men that they hate

1319
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: when it comes to these other dudes.

1320
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: So you know, living and learn. I'm not saying every

1321
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: situation is the same.

1322
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 3: But people definitely ain't ready for no, like radical change

1323
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: on this shit because we won't even consider the idea

1324
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: of like this be quote unquote wrong and him just

1325
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: being wrong.

1326
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 7: Right.

1327
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 6: People act like violating her boundaries was not a problem, right,

1328
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 6: but like this at the minimal, her boundaries was violated.

1329
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And people act like, nope, it was just bad sex.

1330
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 4: You go no, no, no, no, her boundaries were violated.

1331
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: And regardless of what she.

1332
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 6: Consented to, what she agreed with, what she consented to,

1333
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 6: and she didn't agree with, let's scratch all that, it's irrelevant.

1334
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 4: Boundaries were violated, and you have to at least admit that.

1335
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 6: If you're not wanting to admit that whatever, her boundaries

1336
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 6: were violated, I can't have a conversation with you.

1337
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1338
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: I just keep thinking like what could we do to

1339
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: make this not happen to the next person? And I

1340
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: think that's why she wrote it. And it's sad because

1341
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: we don't have We didn't have that conversation because instead

1342
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: of became was it right? It's not as bad as

1343
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: some women's stories. It wasn't y'all acting like he needed

1344
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 3: to go to jail, was it? I mean, so you're

1345
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 3: saying she couldn't have left, you saying, I mean, it's

1346
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: how he held her down. And it became about a

1347
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 3: whole list of other things about.

1348
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 5: The rape Olympics. You're like, ain't nobody got no rape

1349
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 5: opression we're doing here?

1350
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: It's fucked up in the way right people, just like

1351
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm like I said, it's just could we have had

1352
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: a conversation about, like, you know what, man, the way

1353
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: we approach sex as men versus women, quote unquote, it's

1354
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: kind of fucked up, and maybe we can learn from this.

1355
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: Because even he's like, I'm sorry, I misread the signs.

1356
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: I didn't want that to happen. She told me that,

1357
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, and I considered it and was like, you know,

1358
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: my bad. And that should be a change in his

1359
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: behavior so that never happens again. There should be a

1360
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: change in a lot of people viewing it. Hopefully they

1361
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: have a change in their behavior. I hope a lot

1362
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: of men read that story and instead of getting all

1363
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: defensive when I mean, I wish I know that didn't happen,

1364
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: but I wish they would have read that story instead

1365
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 3: of getting defensive, been like, maybe I need to change

1366
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: up the way I approached this shit. But instead of

1367
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: it got to be like you're telling me all, I

1368
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: can't fuck a bitch if she come to my house

1369
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: and suck my dick.

1370
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: Now I'm wrong. It's like, okay, this is turned into it.

1371
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 6: And then a lot of these conversations and even some

1372
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 6: of the things I was talking about are things that

1373
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 6: kind of was the offspring of her initial letter.

1374
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: Right, So.

1375
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: Anyway, she goes on to say, that's a long change. Anyway,

1376
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: she goes on to say, I'm a deliberate person.

1377
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: I've always been.

1378
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: I think it's okay to sit back, be quiet, watch, listen,

1379
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 3: and learn from speaking and forming an opinion. And even

1380
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: if I never give my opinion, I'm okay with that too.

1381
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I had no idea how

1382
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: to spell and seasons sorry until now I do. Even

1383
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: he says, Roy, You're right if nothing else is season sorry.

1384
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: Story showed me this me too movement isn't long for

1385
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: this world because it scenes that as long as the

1386
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: person is likable, there will be defenders, and the people's

1387
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: face keep getting called out. Soon it's just gonna be

1388
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: fuck these bitches shake my head off for shure m.

1389
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: I've been saying people seem like they're kind of tired

1390
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: of it already.

1391
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: M h.

1392
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 3: And three or four pieces came out this week of

1393
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: basically it's gone too far. One woman was just saying

1394
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 3: it was the revolution two months ago.

1395
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: And now it's gone too far. People kind of trash rights.

1396
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: The reactions to that, I'm sorry, show how fucked up

1397
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 3: people are. And I bet this is one of the

1398
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 3: reason why dating is so bad. Hell, some young ladies

1399
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 3: have stopped dating because men think they need to act

1400
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: like pushy assholes to come across the confident and of

1401
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: course the men are confused. Also a season sorry, more

1402
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: like a these and sorry. Uh yeah, that's the other

1403
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: thing too.

1404
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: I would add like people started being like, I'm not

1405
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: a mind read, I'm not this. I'm like, well then.

1406
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 5: Ask, come on, ask, you know.

1407
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: And I hate to keep revisiting the story, but she

1408
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: said so much shit that and I guess it's just

1409
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: a personal thing for me, and that might be my

1410
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: own insecurities, but they in this area, they play into

1411
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: keeping me from being a fucking creepy ass rapist nigga.

1412
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: But you know, if someone hits me with the I'm

1413
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 3: not okay with this, then that's it. That was the

1414
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: good night, have a nice one, you know what I mean,

1415
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: Like you don't need to like, I'm not out to

1416
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: prove to you that it's gonna be okay when you

1417
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 3: think it's not like that's I don't know that seemed

1418
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: like a giving you know what I mean, It's not

1419
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 3: like a role playing scenario. This isn't like a I mean,

1420
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 3: it's I just can't imagine somebody being so not with

1421
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 3: the shits at your crib that you just be like

1422
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 3: I refuse to acknowledge that you are saying things that

1423
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 3: sound kind of like you're not cool with this. You know,

1424
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 3: That's how it came off to me. But maybe that's

1425
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 3: what dudes are doing. Maybe that's just normal sex to people.

1426
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: Is she goes, I'm not cool with this. Were moving

1427
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: too fast, and you go, okay, cool, now let me

1428
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 3: try to pull my dick out again, like she changed

1429
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: your mind because it's been ten minutes. Obviously, I can

1430
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 3: fuck now. That was just ten minutes ago that you

1431
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 3: felt we need to slow down.

1432
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 2: I would like not. I don't want to feel like

1433
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: I was forced that.

1434
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 3: They don't feel like like maybe I'm what I am

1435
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: a person that goes over in my mind, conversations over

1436
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: and over in mistakes. I mean things I've said, or

1437
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,879
Speaker 3: how a conversation went and how which I went differently,

1438
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: or what word I could have said.

1439
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 4: I do.

1440
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm a stickler for that, and maybe those are my

1441
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: hang ups and they're coming to bear in this, but.

1442
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. It felt kind of like she was

1443
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: shutting shit down to me. What I having to say

1444
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: no in a way that listen.

1445
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: It's like people basically are like if you can't and

1446
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: maybe ultimately where our society is, they're right and I'm.

1447
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: The one that's wrong.

1448
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 3: If you can't say no in an affirmative way, you

1449
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 3: shouldn't even be in a situation with a person that

1450
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 3: could get sexual.

1451
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: If that's people's views, Like society is that fucked up?

1452
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: This is the way it is.

1453
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: Don't go into nobody house if you can't tell them

1454
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 3: straight up no, cause motherfuckers don't take anything but no

1455
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: as no. And I'm saying, why couldn't we have had

1456
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 3: a conversation about changing that to only yes and yes

1457
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 3: as opposed to this shit right?

1458
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 6: And the thing is, I feel like this a lot

1459
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 6: of people wanted to put the laying on her. But

1460
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 6: people do know that it was two people in there.

1461
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 6: At any period of time, he could have been like,

1462
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 6: well you get out. You told me no, all right,

1463
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 6: wrap your shit up here, you go, have a good one.

1464
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 6: Like people act like she you could have left. She yeah, okay,

1465
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 6: she could have. But at any period of time he

1466
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 6: could be like, okay, I want to fuck you, don't.

1467
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 6: All right, that's cool, nothing personal, get your shit and

1468
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 6: get out. At any period of time, he could he

1469
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 6: could have came out and said that too, and a

1470
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 6: lot of people that's defending this goal.

1471
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 5: Oh it's creepy sex.

1472
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 6: Well, at any period of time, he could have told her, Okay,

1473
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 6: I see you feel uncomfortable.

1474
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 4: I see you giving me these cues. Obviously we ain't

1475
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 4: on the same page. Okay, you need to go. People

1476
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: that act like him telling her no was never an option.

1477
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: Well, also just when you like I said, maybe I'm

1478
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: just out of the loop like that, I'm not dating.

1479
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: So maybe that's what Niggas was doing. But it sounds

1480
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 3: so corny to me. He moved I kept moving my

1481
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: hand away. He moved my hand to his dick six

1482
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: or seven more times. The v you know, the the

1483
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 3: clau v think move he was doing. He did that

1484
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 3: a couple of times.

1485
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I stopped moving and turned cold,

1486
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 2: like yeah, like we said.

1487
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 6: Before, these are body cues and body languished that she

1488
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 6: was given off and people act like him ignoring that

1489
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 6: was not a problem.

1490
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's you know, he's an adult, like he's grown,

1491
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: he's thirty something, like, I don't know.

1492
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: The whole thing where he was talking about standing behind

1493
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: to my womie, fuck you like this looking in the mirror,

1494
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: and she was like, obviously not And this is after

1495
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 3: her third or fourth time trying to slow things down.

1496
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I think people just like this dude,

1497
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: because I reading the account, IM just like we all

1498
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 3: would have said fuck Matt Damon after reading this, but

1499
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: none of them, but everybody was like, I don't know,

1500
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: I could kind of see how it would be, And.

1501
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: I don't know it's either.

1502
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 3: And I'm willing to say maybe people are just too

1503
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: harsh on the people they don't like. Maybe it's not

1504
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: about being so fucking everybody needs to be really harsh

1505
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: towards his ease. Maybe people are really harsh towards the

1506
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 3: people they don't like and they really need to step

1507
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: back from that shit and stop being so judgmental.

1508
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: But some side of this is not right.

1509
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, God, some side of this is people

1510
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: people are fronting on one side or the other. I'm

1511
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 3: more likely feeling like they fronting on the whole, Like

1512
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: I feel like this is abhorrent when it's somebody I

1513
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: don't like side. After this, I feel more like, oh, y'all,

1514
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 3: don't think any of it's really that fucking bad. Y'all

1515
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 3: think I don't like this person, so it's bad. But

1516
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 3: if I like them, then I can kind of see

1517
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 3: how they maybe maybe they deserve the benefit of the

1518
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 3: doubt that I wouldn't give someone.

1519
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 6: Else right, And it's one of those things where, like

1520
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 6: I said before, this behavior happens more than normal, you know,

1521
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 6: and a lot of women never say anything and never

1522
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 6: come out, they never do anything live because the response

1523
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 6: to the people that are getting off of just her

1524
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 6: writing this letter all of a sudden, striped off conversation

1525
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 6: had you know, people period just saying very ignorant and

1526
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 6: very dumb and very idiotic shit, and people actually coming

1527
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 6: out and telling you how they feel about you as

1528
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 6: a woman, and having people reevaluate relationships and friendships and

1529
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 6: shit like that, because I'm not a single woman. If

1530
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 6: I was a single woman, I would be looking at it,

1531
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 6: not a lot of niggas always going, oh, this is

1532
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 6: how you really feel about me. You think that if

1533
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 6: when the situation I'm pushing you away and I don't

1534
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 6: firmly come out and say no, that you can basically

1535
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 6: hand me and we can just chalk it up to

1536
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 6: bad sex.

1537
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: And he prides himself on not being one of these dudes. So,

1538
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to look.

1539
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 3: I can understand how twenty two yard women thought he

1540
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: was different. And her words when she left, when she

1541
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: was like, you're just y'all the same. You guys are

1542
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: all the same. You guys are all the fucking same.

1543
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 3: And then she left and keeping mind, she says, you

1544
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 3: guys are the same. You guys are the fucking same.

1545
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: She turned around.

1546
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: When he asked her what she meant, she turned around

1547
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: the answer, he forcefully kissed her. It just seemed fucking weird.

1548
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 2: I don't like it. Just seemed like y'all would anyway.

1549
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 3: It seemed like people would say it was wrong if

1550
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: it was somebody they didn't like, I'll just.

1551
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 5: Leave it at that, right, And like I said, bare minimum.

1552
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 6: Even if you say, okay, and no crime was committed,

1553
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 6: but she said nothing happened, Okay, that's cool. But the

1554
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 6: bare minimum you can say that she was that her boundaries.

1555
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 5: Was violated, even if you don't.

1556
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 4: Feel like she was violated boundaries that she said, well

1557
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 4: violated period.

1558
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: And with you about it, right, he was at least

1559
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 3: forcefully pushing her fucking boundaries.

1560
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: That's that's the minimum. At least she clearly is not

1561
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: into it.

1562
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: He just didn't give a fuck, right, I mean, like,

1563
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how any other way to read that shit.

1564
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: I like, honestly, looking at his first apology about he

1565
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 3: misread the signs, I don't think he misread the signs.

1566
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: I think he just didn't give a fuck about that.

1567
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 3: Girl, right, you know, I think it's pretty looking at

1568
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: the he had to keep like all that pepe Le

1569
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: Pugh shit. He clearly was just like she, I'm going

1570
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 3: to get some busy tonight and one way or the other,

1571
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 3: and her saying I don't want to feel for us.

1572
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 3: Can we slow things down, put all our clothes back on?

1573
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 3: You know that those are all things where I'm just like,

1574
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 3: y'all are ignoring that shit because y'all like this nigga

1575
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: because clearly that that nigga is extremely persistent to somebody

1576
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: that's extremely cold towards him.

1577
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 4: So right, and like I.

1578
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 6: Said to me, is no excuse in my opinion, And

1579
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 6: this situation is more common and happens to more women

1580
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 6: than some of these other situations, and people begin to

1581
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 6: think about them being any situations, and they begin to

1582
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 6: think about that I violate somebody, that I do something wrong,

1583
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 6: And that's the worst thing you could ever do is

1584
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 6: make people who are in the up privileged position reconsider

1585
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 6: a think about their behavior.

1586
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: Also, was I violated? Correct?

1587
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: Because a lot of women and have probably been walking

1588
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: around blaming themselves. And I saw a lot of women

1589
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: that to in my mind, felt like they resented this

1590
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: woman for complaining about something that they've accepted as status quo. Right,

1591
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: And it's like, I can't believe you would even bring

1592
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 3: this shit up, bitch. You know, that's just what men do.

1593
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 3: That's just you shouldn't have went to the house, you

1594
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: shouldn't have had a drink, you shouldn't have been on

1595
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 3: other date, you shouldn't have and it's like, okay, but

1596
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 3: what if we could change the world and no one

1597
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: had to worry about that anymore. What if we could

1598
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: have that conversation and change the world and everybody's like,

1599
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 3: mm hmm, that's not gonna happen, So let's.

1600
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: Just go back to what it was correct.

1601
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 6: And it's also and I'll look continue to say this,

1602
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 6: at any period of time, either party could have stepped away.

1603
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 6: And just like you know with some of the other situations,

1604
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 6: with some of the other people that have came up

1605
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 6: to we talked about it's you know, when people defend

1606
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 6: it's always.

1607
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 5: Her her, But at no period of time, people that

1608
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 5: act like him and his decision and his behavior, none

1609
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 5: of that was even change.

1610
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: Well, not just that she wasn't trapped up there, No,

1611
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: she was. She could have left. Well, people keep skipping

1612
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: over is he kept lying?

1613
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 5: Right?

1614
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: Everybody skips over that.

1615
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 3: It's like he kept being like, oh, no, I'm cool,

1616
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: it's I feel you, I understand where you're coming from.

1617
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 2: And then he'll be like, not really, I'm pulling my

1618
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: dick back out. That's what the fuck.

1619
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: People keep skipping over and this shit is That's why

1620
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't believe he just didn't understand. I

1621
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: think he just said, I don't care you're twenty two,

1622
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: you're in my apartment. I am going to try to

1623
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: fuck you.

1624
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 2: That's just the rules.

1625
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 5: Correct.

1626
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, the polls, did you watch Black Lightning?

1627
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 4: Yes?

1628
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 3: Thirty percent, No, I'm a con twenty four percent, and

1629
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 3: forty five percent of y'all said, y'all forgot it, came.

1630
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: Out and went to the CW app So good luck guys, and.

1631
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 3: Oh the last It's funny these poles are opposite each other,

1632
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 3: but the last episode was Black Lightning, so lit episode

1633
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: fifteen ninety nine, which makes up this episode sixteen hundred, right.

1634
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 5: Y'all know we don't pay numbers, no attention.

1635
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: We had three comments on it. Marcy said, so I've

1636
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 3: oh the poe was do you think a The's and

1637
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: sorry story was just quote unquote bad sex? Yes, and

1638
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 3: here's why in the comments below. No, it was some

1639
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: sort of assault. So Marcy, I guess comment on the

1640
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 3: poll said, so I voted no because I definitely believe

1641
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: that woman in the story felt she was assaulted. In

1642
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: as long as that is true, who might have denied

1643
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: her that? I also know that legally speaking, this can't

1644
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 3: be adjudicated as assault. I feel like yelling. Just talk

1645
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 3: to each other at everyone out there in sexual accounters.

1646
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: I know many of these.

1647
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: Cases are men purposely mistreated women and pretending they didn't know,

1648
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 3: but I think there are plenty that are men for

1649
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 3: whom viewing porn was extended as sexual education. I hate

1650
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 3: that people can't get past Oh okay, I do have

1651
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: to push back on this, the whole porn thing.

1652
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: It keeps coming up a lot. I think people blame

1653
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 2: porn wrongly for a lot of the ills of society. Correct,

1654
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 2: here's the thing.

1655
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: We've had video pornography for say, I don't know, fifty years,

1656
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: sixty years of I don't know. Maybe let's let's branch

1657
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 3: all the way back to silent film error and say

1658
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,520
Speaker 3: they had it for one hundred years, we've had porngraphy.

1659
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: What happened to the millennia before that, and how we

1660
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: was treating women? What porn made them do that?

1661
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 6: People still getting raped back back in the day when

1662
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 6: television did not exist.

1663
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 2: Is this like the hip hop argument where it's like

1664
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: hip hop making people kill each other.

1665
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 3: It's like, but niggas was killing each other for a

1666
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 3: long time wafo hip hop, Like what song made them

1667
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 3: pull the trigger?

1668
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1669
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying you can't reinforce certain stereo types

1670
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: and certain societal.

1671
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: Views through art and through pornography and all that shit.

1672
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: But this ain't no confusion. Nigga's been.

1673
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 3: Willfully ignoring what women think about sex the entire existence

1674
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 3: of women. Come on, So it just feels kind of

1675
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: real convenient to pull the like they must have learned

1676
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 3: it from porn man if y'all believe that as a

1677
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 3: man if y'all believe that shit, y'all, niggas have been

1678
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: had as dude, Like, niggas know they doing wrong shit,

1679
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 3: they don't care and they didn't learn to not care

1680
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: from point They literally just don't care about women.

1681
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: We've been consuming women.

1682
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 3: You know, we lived in a world where women couldn't vote,

1683
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 3: women couldn't get divorced, you know what I mean, Like,

1684
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 3: we don't care about women, and this is all new.

1685
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: It's just we finally hear what women think about shit.

1686
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 6: But in.

1687
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: General, Nah, he wasn't.

1688
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 3: He ain't watched the wrong point on and be like,

1689
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 3: oh my bad, Nah, he just didn't care. I hate

1690
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 3: that people can't get past the idea that talking openly

1691
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 3: about that sexual desires where the potential partner will ruin

1692
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 3: the mood.

1693
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's so sad.

1694
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So finding out that you rape somebody isn't going

1695
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 3: to ruin the mood, right, I'm pretty sure that would

1696
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 3: ruin every sexual encounter you have for the rest of

1697
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 3: your life. I don't know the solution, but generally I

1698
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: think it's a good thing that people are looking at

1699
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 3: the problems. Maybe this can give rise to better sex education.

1700
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,959
Speaker 2: I hope so. Marshy Dia says, I didn't.

1701
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: Vote in the poll, but I commented about babe dot

1702
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: net for another TVGWT episode. I got my episodes out

1703
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: of order hearing I keep hearing believe and listen to women.

1704
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 3: But on Twitter it's hard to find that privilege extended

1705
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 3: among survivors of sexual assault and violence who disagree on

1706
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: the latest issue with Grace and the sorry but what

1707
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 3: uh yeah, well, you know what, believe women and listen

1708
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 3: to women, And most of these cases are about the

1709
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 3: survivor in question, or in a lot of cases, about

1710
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 3: people who refuse to believe these things happen. This is

1711
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 3: not a situation where a seas is saying it didn't

1712
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: happen or so it's been confirmed. So I think the

1713
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: next part of that becomes who which women are we

1714
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 3: going to listen to when it comes to how to

1715
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 3: feel about this. And there are women who have survived

1716
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 3: sexual assault who will be like, no, this doesn't count.

1717
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 3: If people choose to listen to those women, that's on them.

1718
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 3: But I personally would not. I would consider there as

1719
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 3: stuff with a grain of salt, you know, because I

1720
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 3: don't think everybody's I don't think everybody.

1721
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 2: Gets to kick people in and out of the club

1722
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 2: quote unquote when it comes to this.

1723
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: And I don't think we get to not validate people

1724
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 3: because if I got to listen to women, tell me

1725
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 3: not the valid I'll tell you what it's like, the

1726
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 3: racial shit.

1727
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: Listen to black people, not Herman.

1728
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 3: Kane, not Stacey Dash, you know what I mean like,

1729
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: because they would have themselves presented as experts as well

1730
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 3: and whatnot.

1731
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say that, I just feel like people

1732
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: like this, dude.

1733
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 3: So this is the time they chose to pick to

1734
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 3: listen to the quote unquote pick means that they would

1735
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 3: normally label these women. But this is the time they

1736
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 3: chose to be like, oh no, these women are right

1737
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: this time. But normally they be laughing off these women

1738
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: like doll, these bitches are always trying to be chosen.

1739
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: Uh, just because that's what you have to do to.

1740
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 3: Survive yo assault. That don't mean you should get to

1741
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 3: tell me like, but this time is different because people

1742
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: like a'se ease.

1743
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: So but yeah, I don't know.

1744
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 3: I guess people don't extend that to people that don't

1745
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: want to deal with they. I mean, how do we

1746
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: know it's a internalized misogyny or not.

1747
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: We don't really know. But I don't know.

1748
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 3: I just I think people don't. People pick always be

1749
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: People have always been picking and choosing who to believe.

1750
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 3: That's always been the thing. In any one of these cases, there's.

1751
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: Women that go, it's not raped, period.

1752
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 3: So this is the first one that's kind of divided

1753
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 3: people that have been like, I'm ford me too, moving.

1754
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 3: But before this, it was always some women willing to

1755
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: tell you that. The Harvey Weinstein women went up there

1756
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: willingly and that's their problem. They wanted to get better roles.

1757
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby.

1758
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 3: Uh, you know these women they had they had consensual

1759
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,879
Speaker 3: affairs with him, and now they just mad that's always existed,

1760
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: we just haven't. I mean for me personally, I just

1761
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: have always kind of tuned those women out.

1762
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, this only comes up when you like

1763
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: the dude.

1764
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1765
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: Hey, I survived sexual assault, and let me tell you

1766
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: what Bill Cozy did ain't sexual assault. I mean, you

1767
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 3: have a Bill Cosey post up in your house. I'm

1768
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 3: not going to listen to you. You know, I have

1769
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 3: to pick and choose.

1770
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 2: Anyway. But what I really wanted to add is that

1771
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: social media is great.

1772
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 3: However, it seems that a lot of Twitter users come

1773
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: across only rely on other Twitter used as their realm

1774
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 3: of understanding their reality when it comes to issues around

1775
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: the violence against women. This creates an unhealthy silo for

1776
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 3: people when they communicate in the real world.

1777
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I could hear that.

1778
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we do all live in our bubbles, and

1779
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: I do think social media gives an unrealistic view of

1780
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 3: the world. I don't think society is even close to

1781
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: having the kind of conversations we have on Twitter or

1782
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 3: on this show. Even there are many public policy wonks, advocates,

1783
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 3: and attorneys, many of whom are drawn to the work

1784
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: because there are survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault, dating violence,

1785
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 3: and sexual trafficking.

1786
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,480
Speaker 2: If people have an opportunity.

1787
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: Lead that social media spaces and visit some of these

1788
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 3: organizational sites, they will find that more comprehensive discussions and

1789
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,440
Speaker 3: extended critiques are happening off their timelines.

1790
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: This may help all have more.

1791
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 3: Empathy and understanding when communicating with each other, not go

1792
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,959
Speaker 3: for the vitriol attacks because of a difference of opinions.

1793
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: I hope, so, man, I hope.

1794
01:24:59,360 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 6: So.

1795
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 3: Remember one in four women experience abuse, so often the

1796
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 3: people that are attacking each other maybe survivors in healing themselves.

1797
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 3: I think we all see that all the time. I

1798
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: also think that's a rather low number. That's a that's

1799
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: an actual that's an actual conservative.

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01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: Estimate, one and four, you know. But uh yeah, I

1801
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

1802
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: So it's funny because when I bring up shit like that,

1803
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 3: people would be like, you try and make an excuse,

1804
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 3: and I'm like, but that's I don't think so. I

1805
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 3: think Gabby Douglas is a great example that just happening

1806
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 3: and people being like for her, we need to like

1807
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 3: back off, give a chance to grow.

1808
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: Who knows she's just a child, Da da da da,

1809
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: you know.

1810
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: And if that would have been say, say that would

1811
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: have been Calie Jenner, it would not have went that way.

1812
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 2: And we all know it. We all know it. And

1813
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: if she would have came.

1814
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: Out and said I also sexually assaulted, you wouldn't have

1815
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 3: seen this big rush to be like, see, we need

1816
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: to folk hold her up. People pick can choose a favorites.

1817
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 3: That's just what it is, and I don't think that's

1818
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: gonna change. But also, as much as you recognize that

1819
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: social media can be a bubble, that's also why we

1820
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 3: have to kind of understand that that it is a

1821
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 3: bubble and not really act like.

1822
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: It's more than that, you know what I mean?

1823
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,520
Speaker 3: So like, because I know I've had my bubble experiences,

1824
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 3: I didn't I live in a real life bubble. I

1825
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: didn't even know fucking niggas didn't like Martin until I

1826
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: got on Twitter. I thought everybody loved Martin. Then I

1827
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 3: met some black people that didn't love Martin.

1828
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: Via the Internet.

1829
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 3: So I guess I've been living a social media bubble

1830
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 3: my whole life. EVI says what I saw when I

1831
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: saw a black Lightning promo. I wasn't that excited because

1832
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: the only superhero show I watched on CW is The

1833
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: Flash because of the other heroes aren't my cup of tea.

1834
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 3: But I saw so many people who were excited about

1835
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 3: the premiere, so I recorded in and watched it the

1836
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: next day. It was so good, probably one of the

1837
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 3: best shows I've seen a while. I love it just

1838
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: so much Black television consume and I'll be adding this

1839
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 3: show to my weekly rotation. Glad you enjoyed the ev

1840
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 3: the poe was. Do you think azizun sorry story was

1841
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 3: just bad sex? Yes, and here's why. The comments below,

1842
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 3: by the way, two votes no comments. That's always telling,

1843
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 3: uh and uh. Yeah, eight percent said it's just bad sex,

1844
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 3: and ninety percent of y'all said it was some sort

1845
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: of assault.

1846
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: I think it's some sort of a salt.

1847
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 4: I don't know is hearsay, but yeah, it was my

1848
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 4: opinions from a violation.

1849
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1850
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what the rules are, what laws and

1851
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 3: how that would be impacted, but I still believe that

1852
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: that it's some swarm sexual assault. All right, guys, let's

1853
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 3: get into your emails. I need to check the Skype too.

1854
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: I forgot altho.

1855
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't think we got any voicemails because I opened

1856
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 3: this yesterday.

1857
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 4: Oh no, remember get update every three minutes.

1858
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so let me check the skype real quick,

1859
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 3: and I think we need to start a new session too.

1860
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 3: We're getting close to the end. Okay, all right, all right,

1861
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 3: so we got a bit to let me bring up

1862
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: the emails first and the skype comes up. We'll get

1863
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 3: to that when it happens. But you can email us

1864
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: the blackout test sa ayt gmail dot com. Oh we

1865
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 3: don't have one email, Lauren writes, saying, Princess Meghan Markle

1866
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: once Princess Meghan and Prince Harry are married, and I

1867
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 3: don't care if those are the proper titles. It has

1868
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 3: some kids following. People should would have to die for

1869
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: them to take the throne. Okay, Queen Betty had to die,

1870
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 3: Prince Charle has to die, Prince Williams had to die,

1871
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 3: Prince George Williams cute little baby boy had to die.

1872
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: Prince Charlotte Will's little baby girl will have to die.

1873
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 3: Unborn royal baby currently just stayed. They don't have to die.

1874
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 3: Any other future children of William will have to die.

1875
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 3: And finally, Prince Harry himself. Whether Princess Meghan has a

1876
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 3: boy or girl doesn't matter, as a law was changed

1877
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 3: right before Prince George was born so that the firstborn

1878
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 3: will inherit regardless of gender. It's a long list, but

1879
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Queen Victoria faced the longer odds, so it's not impossible.

1880
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 2: Lauren. Uh, yeah, I don't you know. I haven't really

1881
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 2: been into.

1882
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: The royal wedding stuff as much as I'm just not

1883
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 3: trying to yup people jump on that. Uh, totally fine

1884
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: for people to be into that, but that would be

1885
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: some Game of Thrones level killing if she took the throne.

1886
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 5: They like, you're not even from here, you don't belong here.

1887
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh great, and the Skype is not even it's not

1888
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: even let me log into my account. I don't even know.

1889
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: I hate this fucking program. Who made this program?

1890
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 8: Oh?

1891
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 3: It was just yesterday I was it was working and

1892
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 3: I didn't have to log in anything. Today I go

1893
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: on there and it's like, fuck, you think this is nigger?

1894
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I know my Skype password.

1895
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 5: Ain't normally your social media.

1896
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,799
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I have two Skypes on my computer.

1897
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 3: Why are the two Skypes was one on me. No,

1898
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 3: it's no, it's two programs, not two accounts. Oh, let

1899
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: me try opening the other Skype. Okay, so maybe that's

1900
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 3: the bad Skype.

1901
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 2: I'll try a good one.

1902
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 7: Oh like it updated and it just kept oversion on

1903
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 7: there something. Yeah, and yeah, I don't see uh, so

1904
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 7: I hit chat said two skyes.

1905
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm smoking on that gas all right.

1906
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm trying to bring up the skite real quick,

1907
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 3: so I will stall and read.

1908
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 7: Uh.

1909
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 2: We got some gifts.

1910
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: Karen got a book cook The Cooking Jean, a journey

1911
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 3: through African American culinary history in the Old South. And

1912
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 3: Tanya says, I hope it's not too presumptuous to send this.

1913
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 3: But it's a remarkable journey of the ancestors told through

1914
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:39,879
Speaker 3: historical research, research DNA, geneal genealogical research, and personal experiences

1915
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 3: and memories, all tied together through food.

1916
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: All the best.

1917
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: Tanya w uh, yeah, The Cooking Jean is uh this

1918
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 3: book right here, she got us, Uh, the hardback version.

1919
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 3: Let me tell you guys something And I'm not saying

1920
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 3: this is and this is my Michael w Twitter. I'm

1921
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 3: not saying this as a negative I'm saying is uh.

1922
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to help you guys make the best

1923
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: gifts possible. You know, if y'all want to gift us

1924
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 3: the Kendle version, that's better for me because I read

1925
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 3: all my shit on Kendle, so it's probably easier to

1926
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 3: buy me an actual physical copy of a book. But no,

1927
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 3: you know, no pressure that you don't owe me anything.

1928
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 3: But if you do want to get in something, that's

1929
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:15,839
Speaker 3: probably the best way.

1930
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 7: To do it.

1931
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you right now, Donia, you must

1932
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 6: have been reading my mind, because I'm not even gonna lie.

1933
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 6: A few months ago, I was kind of fumbling around,

1934
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 6: you know, going through Amazon, and I happened.

1935
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 5: To cross this book and I was like, should I

1936
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 5: about this book? Should I not? And I opted not

1937
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 5: to buy the book.

1938
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 4: And when I seen that book we were.

1939
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: Riding the car, I was like, yes, somebody's actually read

1940
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 5: my mind.

1941
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 6: I know you didn't notice, but I got so excited

1942
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 6: because I was like, I didn't order the book for

1943
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 6: a reason, that because somebody knew that you were gonna

1944
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 6: order it for my baby.

1945
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 5: So thank you so much.

1946
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 3: We also got this Christmas card here says hey Rod

1947
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 3: and Karen. Sorry, I'm so late, Melaniese. I wanted to

1948
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 3: keep up the ornament tradition. I'm wishing y'all are awesome

1949
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. I was really excited for the great

1950
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: things that twenty seventeen brought to TVGWT.

1951
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: I still listen every day, terry day. And she included

1952
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:14,879
Speaker 2: some ornaments.

1953
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 3: We got Thor South thorw Ragnar and we got Fenn

1954
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 3: from and so this goes up with the other Star

1955
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Wars ornaments we have on our tree.

1956
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: Your ornaments are the only ones we have on our tree.

1957
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, baby, and that tree still up yep.

1958
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 3: And then we got this merry Christmas card from Danny Sue,

1959
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: who says Karen, Karen and Rod, thank you for filling

1960
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 3: our ears with joyous sound and sightful thoughts. Love you guys,

1961
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Happy holidays.

1962
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: PS.

1963
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,719
Speaker 3: Here's some chocolates from Columbia, three hand woven bracelets for Karen.

1964
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: You're listener, Danny. We ate the hell out of chocolates.

1965
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: They gone and the braces are still in the ten

1966
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 3: But thank you. Yes, And here's the voicemail if it'll

1967
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,799
Speaker 3: just play, Hey.

1968
01:32:53,800 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 8: Rod and Karen, it's upstanding, calling from Brooklyn. Just to

1969
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 8: say Happy New Year, even though we're twenty days end

1970
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,879
Speaker 8: to twenty eighteen. And thank y'all for like the wonderful

1971
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 8: shows except Karen picking that cover, like blindly picking that

1972
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,879
Speaker 8: cover of this woman's work, you know, a lord tragic

1973
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 8: almost like died on the train. But anyway, just want

1974
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 8: to touch base. And oh and thank you for putting

1975
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:33,440
Speaker 8: everyone on Neon to jl's Punisher web series. I've subscribed

1976
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 8: in freaking hilarious raisins. They're dead great. I also want

1977
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 8: to get y'all's take on the Tracy lst Gap and

1978
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 8: the Monique Netflix low blottling. I mean, people are just

1979
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 8: showing their massage and ware's asses in the comments and

1980
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 8: I just had to not really like dive in because

1981
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 8: they're just like seriously shitty. But any hope you there's

1982
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 8: going well, And let me get back to watching this

1983
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 8: forty seven meters down movie because I'm doing chores and

1984
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 8: trying to watch a movie at the same time. Anyway, Uh,

1985
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 8: take it easy, guys, Bye bye.

1986
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 3: We'll probably do both of those stories tomorrow on the show.

1987
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 3: But spoiler alert, I feel the same way I felt

1988
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 3: about Amy Schumer, which is why consistency is king up

1989
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 3: in this bitch because it's so many people that are

1990
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 3: inconsistent and they showing they hypocritical asses.

1991
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 2: But also a lot of them told y'all how they really.

1992
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 3: Felt when they talked about Amy Schumer correct, and now

1993
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: they really feel that way about Monique, and it's all different,

1994
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 3: you know. Tracy Ellis Ross' is all, yes, Queen, get

1995
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 3: your coins for certain folks. But even then they got

1996
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 3: they She got her detractors too. Listen, life ain't about deserve.

1997
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Life about what you can get.

1998
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:55,759
Speaker 2: Fuck deserve.

1999
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 3: So if you think you can get more money out

2000
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 3: of the company you work for, or because you feel

2001
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 3: like you're being undervalued, or you feel like your contribution

2002
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 3: compared to what other people are making you should get more,

2003
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: do it.

2004
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 2: That's all it is to it. Monique things you can

2005
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:10,759
Speaker 2: get more than half a million?

2006
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 6: Do it?

2007
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 5: What do we even?

2008
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 2: What are you mad about?

2009
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 3: Broke boy sitting at home doing shit like get go

2010
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 3: into your office tomorrow, demand more money.

2011
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 2: See if you worth it?

2012
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know why people get so upset about

2013
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: somebody having an audacity to want some more coins, Like,

2014
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here, Monique.

2015
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:29,839
Speaker 2: Or Tracy.

2016
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 3: They both can go out there and say I'm putting

2017
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: our shit up to see if I can get more.

2018
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the problem is.

2019
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 5: It's like me too.

2020
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 2: Got to stop when it comes up to black women.

2021
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 3: So anyway, but we'll talk about it more in depth

2022
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 3: tomorrow because people are being.

2023
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, all right, guys. And also shout out to the people.

2024
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 3: I see you, the people that shaded the Amy Schumer

2025
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 3: shit and say she shouldn't be making more money and

2026
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 3: try to cater as a racist and all this shit,

2027
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 3: not that she isn't, but yeah, well shout out.

2028
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 2: To those people because y'all niggas did a one eighty.

2029
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back at four. We'll talk to

2030
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: y'all then. Until then, I love you.

2031
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 5: I love you too,