1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Well, friends, we've reached the end of our playlist. The 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Stuff You Should Know Twelve Days of Christmas Toys. This 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: one's one of my all time favorite episodes, not just 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: toy episodes, but favorite episodes. The Easy Bake Oven which 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: had this huge cultural impact. It still does today. If 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: you want to make somebody nostalgic, just say easy Bake 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Oven and watch their eyes well up with tears. It's 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: really fun. At any rate, we want to thank you 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: for joining us on this journey through our Christmas toy episodes, 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and we want to wish all of you happy holidays 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas. From Stuff you Should Know. 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Ramsey over there. The 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Huge which means it's I'm for Stuff you Should Know. 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Nostalgia Edition Colon ts Hodgman. 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done a few toys. Playto slinkies, right, what else? 18 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: What does a boomerang count as a toy? Uh? 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: That's away alive, mate. 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: We've done tons, we did silly putty, Silly putty. 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: Sure, we did. 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: You know a bunch that the balls, Yeah, the balls, 23 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: the Ball's episode How balls work? 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: They round and they bounce. 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: We said balls like a million times in that episode. 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, this one's kind of cool though. The easy 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: bake oven, which I never had one. Did you ever 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: have one in your home? 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't think my sister had one either. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I was a pretty tubby kid, So it's possible that 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: my mom was like, make sure your brother doesn't know 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: you have one of those, Do not feed your brother 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: or anything from there. 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: But it's interesting that this is one where sort of 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: a very simple idea and you never can tell what's 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 2: gonna hit. Toy wise, nothing super complex about this other 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: than you could literally bake food and sort of pretend 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: to be an adult in the kitchen. 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: That was the basis of it. Being an adult. That 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: was kind of Kenner's thing. And Kenner, the people who 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: made Star Wars toys, were the ones behind this, and 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: they were very much into toys that like let kids 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: pretend they were grown ups. 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was their bag. Yeah, I have a new neighbor. 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: Actually shout out to Rick Kathy. Hey, guys, well. 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: They really got under your skin. Huh what. Rick and 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Kathy got a shout out on the podcast and their 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: new neighbors geez. 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he worked for I was talking to him 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: and I was like, he seems like a good guy. 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: And he's like, what you know, what do you do? Rick? 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: He's retired, now what did you do? And he's like, 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: I was away an action figure designer for Kenner And I. 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Was like, wow, whoa what? 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: Years he came on after his first The first thing 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: he worked on was the Tim Burton Batman movies. Nice 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: and he stayed on for a long time, like his 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: whole career, like after they were sold and everything. Wow, 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: pretty neat. 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: That is very cool. Yeah, good for him. 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he still does wonderful sculpture. So oh, I'll 63 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: bet just go after Rick Watkins's art online and check 64 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: it out. 65 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to check it out. 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: But I mean Kenner, it is such a big deal 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: to like to people our age and of many ages. 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: But I didn't realize that they I didn't realize their 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: origin as a company. 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Remember in the We Talked, we did a whole action 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: figures episode. Remember, oh yeah, and we talked a lot 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: about Kenner. Was that a two part episode? Or was 73 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it just like an hour and a half long. 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: I feel like it was just long. 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: It was very long. But Kenner almost didn't do the 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Star Wars ones if I remember. But for us at 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: least that Kenner on the map. What I didn't realize 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: is that Kenner was already on the map as far 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: as toys go. Yeah, And one of the ways that 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: they got there was from the Easy Bake Oven, which 81 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: debuted November of nineteen sixty three, right around the time 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: that John Kennedy was shot. 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Kenner had been around since the nineteen forties. 84 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Albert Philip and Joseph Steiner formed the company after, as 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: legend goes, one of them saw a bubble you know, 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: maker bubble wand or whatever you call them, yeah, and 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: was like, hey, if I could do a gun that 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: shoots bubbles, we might be onto something. And that was 89 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: their very first product, is the bubble Matic gun. Yeah, 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: and then whatever less than twenty years later, the Easy 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Bake Oven. Even though as we learned today and yesterday, 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: there had been toy ovens since like the Victorian days. 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 3: Yes, like really really dangerous I know, like real real 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: little ovens, yeah, like wood burning, pellet solid fuel stoves 95 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: made of cast iron that were sized down for little 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: kids to use. 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, basically like, here's the oven that can kill your parents, 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: We'll just make a smaller one that can kill. 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: You, right yeah. Yeah, So the children's play oven functioning 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: play oven history very kind of closely tracks the real 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: oven history, right. 102 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Like when there were cast iron wood burning ovens, there 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: were kids versions of them. As they as real ovens 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: moved into electric ovens, there were kids versions of them. 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Apparently Lionel the Train the model train makers, they made 107 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: some in the thirties. Also, we want to give a 108 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: shout out to Lisa Hicks and the people at Collectors 109 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Weekly for a great article we also used for this 110 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: episode two. But in the thirties there were electric ovens. 111 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: By the forties or fifties, I think there were fiberglass 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: insulated ovens, electric ovens. It was just like a small 113 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: oven for kids, but they were ovens. They were extremely dangerous. 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: And Kenner had this really great idea and the reason 115 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: that this idea came about it Kenner to begin with. 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: So apparently Kenner was really big on having like ideas 117 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: could come from anywhere anybody in the company. Float An 118 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: idea and people would listen and they had like regular 119 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: meetings where you know, there were bull sessions. Maybe they 120 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: ordered some like Chowmaine or something like that. Everyone rolled 121 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: up their sleeves and relaxed and spat out ideas. And 122 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: one of the salesmen from Kenner came back in from 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: the field and said, you know what, I saw something. 124 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I saw some pretzel vendors keeping their pretzels warm on 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: the street using a light bulb. What if we used 126 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: a light bulb to heat up an oven for the 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: little kiddies? And somebody, I think Charles Howse, Ralph. 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Howse Well Norman Shapiro was that gentleman ken Ronald Howse. 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: Ronald House was the big time inventor for Kenner who 130 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: had a couple of like really big products under his belt, 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: and he was like that that's an ace's idea. 132 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: That's exactly how he talked. 133 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Probably, so everyone hated him for it, but he was 135 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: really good at inventing toys, so they had to put 136 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: up with it. 137 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. But Kenner's deal, like you were saying, was find 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: things that mimic adult things. And that's like kinda I 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: bet like kids are going to dig that stuff and 140 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: they did from like, and kids still do little toy 141 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: lawnmowers and toy bulldozers. And I mean Ruby's got a 142 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: little cleaning set with like a duster and a dustpan 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: and a mop. 144 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: And she is she OCD no. 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: But I mean all the time she will say, you know, 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: come on, daddy, let's clean, and she'll hand me a mop. 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: That's a little OCD. 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: Well, no, that's good then. Yeah, I like where she 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: said it. 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: Did you have one of those plastic safety razors so 151 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: you could shave next to your dad? No? 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: I did, but I was I think a lot of 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: boys are pretty obsessed with shaving before they have whiskers. Yeah, 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: and I think I heard that they would actually stimulate 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: hair growth on my face. 156 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I was about to say, I remember being worried about that. 157 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I didn't have I had a pretty I mean, 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: looking at me now, you would never know, but I 159 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of facial hair going on until 160 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: well into college. 161 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Was it like lacking or did it come in patchy. 162 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: Just a little bit, sort of like my brother is 163 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: now he just stayed in that phase where. 164 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Your brother's got a perfect chiseled face. 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: Well, I know that's because he doesn't have a beard. 166 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but Scott can grow a pretty decent goateea now, 167 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: but I don't think he could grow the full beard. 168 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: But his was. We were both spotty, like a little 169 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: bit above the lip, a little bit on the chin. 170 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: One part, just kind of trace the line up to 171 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: your eye from around from under your nose. 172 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it was sort of a family thing. 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: We're not hairy dudes. We don't have very hairy legs or. 174 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: It is odd that you have such a full beard, Like. 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: I don't have hairy arms or anything like that. 176 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: Your beast, I don't know if beasts is the right word, 177 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: but yes, I'm a little hairy. 178 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: You're a hairy guy. 179 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: My chest hair definitely plucks out from under my shirt. 180 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: Have you ever done any like laser or anything like that? No, No, 181 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: good for you. 182 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm Harry. 183 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: No, I mean you're normal. It's not like you're Robin Williams. No, 184 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: he was hairy. 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Yes he was, God rest his soul. Yes, indeed, So 186 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: back to the Ovens. So the idea has been put 187 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: out there now by Norman Shapiro. Yes, yeah, okay, So 188 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: and it was taken up by Ronald House and this 189 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: was this was huge and groundbreaking because again they were safe. 190 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: There were unsafe ovens for kids that have been around 191 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: since the nineteenth century. What these guys had just happened 192 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: upon was the way to make another unsafe oven seem 193 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: safe to parents. 194 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 195 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: That was that was it. That was the genius of 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: this idea. That is what made easy bake ovens take off. 197 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: What they'd figured out was that if they used a 198 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: lot light bulb as the heating element, and believe me, 199 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,239 Speaker 1: a light bulb can can heat up an oven. 200 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Sure three fifty Yeah, up to three fifty, which is 201 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: a common baking stemp. 202 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Yes from a light bulb. And actually, at first is 203 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: we'll see a pair of light bulbs, but the fact 204 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: is they're light bulbs and parents are familiar with light bulbs. 205 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: They don't seem weird or scary. 206 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a wood pellet. 207 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: And the fact that it's not like a heating element 208 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: like in an actual oven, it's just a light bulb. 209 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: That is what they used to convince parents that this 210 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: was a safe product that they could buy for their kids. 211 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: It was a genius idea. 212 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: It really was. And like you teased a second ago, 213 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: the very first model in nineteen sixty three, and if 214 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: you look at that very first one, it doesn't really 215 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: even look like an oven. 216 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Well certainly the new one doesn't either. 217 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: Now I did go online. I was like, maybe I 218 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: should get one of those. But they're ugly now. 219 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: They I'm sorry to the person who designed them. Yes, 220 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said it. They are ugly little ovens. 221 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should kind of go back to looking more classic. 222 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: I think that'd be my advice. But they used two 223 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: one hundred watt incandescent bulbs at first, one over the 224 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: top and another under the bottom. Obviously they were trying 225 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: to get an even heat because you're baking things, right. 226 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: And they very wisely designed this thing so that the 227 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: actual oven part was basically inaccessible to the kit on 228 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: either side. So just imagine a box. Okay. Oh man, 229 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: here's the way. 230 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Okay, it's my favorite thing when you try to describe 231 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: something official. 232 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Let me see if I if I close my eyes, 233 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: it works. Imagine a box, okay, and then coming out 234 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: from either side of the box or a couple of 235 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: little little arms. But the arms are half arms, and 236 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: they're rectangular and hollow, and they're actually openings. One opening, 237 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: you slide in the uncooked thing that you want to 238 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: bake into the heating area the oven, let it bake, 239 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: and you push it through the other the other side, 240 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: the cooling chamber, and then it comes out the other arm. 241 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: Everyone Josh has had his eyes closed that entire. 242 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: Time, and it worked. I really painted a great picture. 243 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: In your mind's eye. Yes, uh, yeah, so that's what's 244 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: going on. You had the two bulbs and in fact, 245 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: let's go ahead and take a break there. Oh oh, okay, 246 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: a Nicett cliffhanger. 247 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'll redescribe the easy bake oven again. 248 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: It sounds good, all right. We were at one bulb, right, yeah, 249 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, we were at two bulbs right so 250 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: long ago I couldn't remember. 251 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: I know it was a full hour ago. 252 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: But then what they did was they figured if they 253 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: just engineered this thing to distribute heat and hold heat 254 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: a little better, almost like a convection oven. Yeah, exactly, 255 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: like a convection of him, that they could go down 256 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 2: to one bulb. 257 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. There was a dude named Charles hold On I 258 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: really wanted. Yeah, Charles Cummings, Charles one bulb Cummings. Yeah, 259 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: that's what he was known as. Charles Cummings was a 260 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: designer at Kenner, and I think in the late seventies 261 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: he designed the interior of the oven so that the 262 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: bulb one bulb created a convection current, so it cooked 263 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: just as well as two bold but you just needed one. 264 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: And he owns the patent to that. Oh really, which 265 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: that's the way it should be. Yeah, he was the designer. 266 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: He came up with this. 267 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: It's pretty rare too. 268 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: I think Kenner, of course, I'm sure had an exclusive 269 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: license to it, but I'm sure he got like a 270 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: decent amount of money from that license agreement. That is 271 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the way it should be. He also created the patent, 272 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: or he held the patent for the add on popcorn 273 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: maker that you could put onto the easy bake oven. 274 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Too good for him, Good for you, Charles Cummings. 275 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: Charles one bulb Commings. He probably lives on top of 276 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: the mountain somewhere. It's on a mountain of money. So 277 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: all right, you're down to one bulb thanks to Charlie Cummings. 278 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: They initially wanted to call this in nineteen sixty three. 279 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: When it was two bulbs, when it debuted. 280 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, right out of the gate, they wanted to call 281 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: it November of sixty three the Safety bake Oven, because 282 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: they really wanted to drive this home was that it 283 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: was super safe, right, and the regulatory bodies were like, 284 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: you can't. You haven't even sold one yet, Like, we don't. 285 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: We're not sure if this is going to kill kids. 286 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: It burned a dozen monkeys during the product testing tries. 287 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's awful, but you can't call it that yet 288 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: because we don't know yet whether it's truly safe. Go 289 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: ahead and sell them, sure, but just don't still call 290 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: it safe. 291 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: The Safety Bakeup. And so they're like, well, what about 292 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: easy And they're like, are we still talking about this. 293 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: We're done with you, go away, and they said they 294 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: were like, okay, fine, we'll call it the Easy Bakeup. 295 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: And then and they sold it as the Easy Makeoven 296 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: and it sold out immediately. They sold it. So November 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three is right before the Christmas season. Actually 298 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,359 Speaker 1: it's in the Christmas season even back then. Yes, And 299 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: they made a little more than half a million units 300 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,479 Speaker 1: and sold them all like before. 301 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: Christmas, Yeah, for fifteen ninety five, which is expensive. That 302 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: would be about one hundred and thirty dollars today. No, yeah, 303 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: that's an expensive toy. 304 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Wow. And if you look at the thing. I saw 305 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: a picture of one that's for sale on eBay for 306 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: really cheap. I think it was like thirty bucks or something. 307 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: Really, it was. 308 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: Unused in the box, still needed to be assembled. But 309 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: if you look at it, you're like, that thing looks 310 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: like a death trap. Huh. It looks like the four 311 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: pinto of children's toys from the sixties, you know, like 312 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: the sharp metal edges. Yes, you're like, like, that's what 313 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: it looks like, like like the baby strollers we were 314 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: pushed around then. 315 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember that dan Aykroyd SNL skeet from years ago 316 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: with the dangerous Christmas toys, And that was one called 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: the Bag of Glass. That's so great, And that's all 318 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: it was. It was just a bag of shards of glass. Yeah. 319 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, they sold a half a million and then 320 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: they're like, we got to make a lot more of 321 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: these for next year. 322 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is back at a time when toys 323 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: didn't do that very often. You know, it seems like 324 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: every Christmas now people are like, well, what's the toy 325 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: we should go fight other parents for tell us. 326 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm training in the ring. 327 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: This is when this is when it happened to organically. 328 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: When you put out a toy and if it became 329 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: like the fight worthy toy, that was a few and 330 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: far between. Thinks the easy Bake oven was the fight 331 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: worthy toy right out of the gate. 332 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So in year two, I think they they made 333 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: about one point five million sold all those. And here 334 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: was here's the little bit of genius from Kenner is 335 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: anytime you can sell a supplementary product to the the 336 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: big thing, then you're really cooking with gas. 337 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: That's like the ironically the Gellette razor model. I think 338 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: it was King Gillette who came up with that. 339 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So what they did was they sold mixes, you know, 340 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: these little instant mixes that you would pour and it 341 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: would make a little credit cake. And they had twenty 342 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: five of these at first. And we're selling those like 343 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: crazy because if you're a kid, if you're a kid, 344 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: you want all those. You're like, well, I haven't tried 345 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: the strawberry cake yet. 346 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: Plus also, it's not like you're putting this in like 347 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: a book like some baseball cards, and you're like, well, 348 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: I've got this one. I don't need you eat that 349 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: thing and you need another. 350 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: Thing and to replace it and you poop it out. 351 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not gonna eat the poop again. No, 352 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: you're going to go buy another one. And that was 353 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: the genius of the other genius idea of this whole thing. 354 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: There was a third genius idea to Kenner did this 355 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: so right? 356 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: The license? 357 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: Awe? Not just no? The advertising? 358 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: Oh sure? 359 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: So remember this is kids emulating grown ups. That was 360 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: their thing. It They advertised not just to kids through 361 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: like Archie's comics, but they advertised directly to their parents too. Yeah, 362 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: there were ads for the easy Bake Oven on I 363 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Love Lucy and on Hogan's Heroes. According to This Collector's 364 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Weekly article, and in these ads, if you look at 365 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot of old ads and even some of the 366 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: newer ads too for easy Bake Oven, it's a mom 367 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: and a daughter, right, and the parent is like, oh, 368 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: this is something we can do together. I love baking. 369 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: It's basically my whole life. I live in nineteen sixty 370 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: three and I'm a woman, so I would love to 371 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: share that with my daughter. Maybe she's old enough to 372 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: have an easy bake oven herself and that definitely helped 373 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: propel sales for sure, because it's not just kids going 374 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: on an easy bake oven, it's the parent's going that'd 375 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: be a great thing to do with my kid. 376 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. And of course, as people evolved and people became 377 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: more woke over time, even though that word wasn't used enlightened, 378 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: maybe it became a bit of a problem with gender 379 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: roles and like this is for moms and daughters. They're pink, 380 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: and that's what you're supposed to do is be in 381 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: the kitchen baking for the men. 382 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean very famously, the easy bake ovens always 383 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: ended with the disclaimer like this toy is not for boys. 384 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't really, but essentially. 385 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: It was like that was this that was what was 386 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: coming through. And the weird thing is as far as 387 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: as like legendary and iconic a toy as the easy 388 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: bake oven was, as gender roles. And yeah, as gender 389 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: roles evolved, I mean this was we're talking like the 390 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: early seventies when this really started to become like a thing. 391 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: The easy bake oven did not evolve with it, as 392 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: we will see. It wasn't until the early two thousands 393 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: that they started to like respond to that kind of thing. 394 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: And I saw an ad for twenty fourteen, not a 395 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: boy in sight, all girls and just dancing around like 396 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: the girliest easy bake oven you could possibly imagine. It 397 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: actually got more girly as time went on, girl focused, 398 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: as gender roles went on, which is really weird to 399 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: me to be that is not just non responsive, but 400 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: almost like, no, we're going the opposite way. 401 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And in early two thousands, Hasbro who you know, 402 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: they bought out Kenner. 403 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Eventually makers are the classic snoopy snowcombe machine. 404 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: I never had one of those. Did you have one 405 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: of those? 406 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: No? Neighbor did, okay, But. 407 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: You got to eat some of that sweet sweat sugar ice. 408 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: There was nothing like the taste of I think the 409 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: cherry one, I can't remember, but it was just the 410 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: greatest snow cone you could possibly have. 411 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: And that's until you had a shaved ice later and 412 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: you're like, oh no, this is a lot better still. 413 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: Number one raining champ really Number two is blue raspberry 414 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: slush Puppy. 415 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. See, what I would always do was slurp that 416 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: sweet liquid and that'd be left with just some faintly 417 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: colored kind of just ice. 418 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I know it was the problem with 419 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: it for sure. Yeah, but if you did it right 420 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: and you just kind of let it settle, uh, you 421 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: got you know, through the nasty stuff first, when you 422 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: got to the bottom, then you got to the true, 423 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: like hYP hyper dense snow cone experience. 424 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I could never do that. I'd still have problems 425 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: regulating my like hot fudge to ice cream ratio when 426 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: eating a Sunday. Oh yeah, I just won't even do 427 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: it anymore. 428 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: So you do all the hot fudge first, and then 429 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: you're left to some cruddy ice cream. Yep, that's pretty I. 430 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: Mean that's standard cretdy delicious ice cream. 431 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Right This ice cream that some people around the world 432 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: would kill for is cruddy. It doesn't have any more fudge. Dude. 433 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 2: I've been on a fifteen year campaign to convince Emily 434 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: that vanilla ice cream is like a legit flavor. Sure, 435 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: I think she's she still thinks that vanilla ice cream. 436 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Is just like unflavored ice milk. 437 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: Yes, like it's the one without the flavor added, right, 438 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: like no vanilla. Yeah, this is really delicious, it is. 439 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: It is. It's subtle vanilla bean ice cream like the 440 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: true the flex so good with you. 441 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: So in early two thousand, they finally, like you said, 442 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: tried in a very ham fisted way to get boys 443 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: involved with the the qu easy. 444 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: Bake queasy bake is that what it is? Took me 445 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: a second two because Q use a separate word. 446 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: So okay, now even hyphenated. So the queasy bake oven 447 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: and the mixer rader for you boys, you can make 448 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: mud and crud cakes and the larvalicious cocoon cookies and 449 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, not like, hey, just bake something good because 450 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: anyone can bake. 451 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyone can bake. 452 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: And they didn't like the girls don't don't use that one. 453 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was only boys that showed up 454 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: in these ads. They're like, we really need to get 455 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: boys involved. How can we do that. Oh, we'll make 456 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: one specifically for boys. That's like they're making cruddy cakes. 457 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I know they're just trying to sell stuff, 458 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: but when in these meetings, in these marketing meetings that 459 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: you just can't help but think there it's like a 460 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: bunch of like eighty five year old men. Our it's 461 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: our senate. Yeah that's in there, right. 462 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: They're like screaming and pounding and yelling at each other 463 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: about the idea of like selling this to boys. Oh man, well, 464 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: after that, I feel like we take break. 465 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go to our Senate chambers and regroup right 466 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: after this. All right, So in nineteen sixty seven, the 467 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: easy Bake oven is selling like hotcakes. Literally, General Mills 468 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: buys Kenner and they did a couple of genius things. 469 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: They partnered because they were General Mills. They had no 470 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: problem because they owned Betty Crocker as well, I assume 471 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: launching Betty Crocker branded mixes. And then later on they 472 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: got into licensing deals with McDonald's and Pizza Hut Because 473 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: here's the thing. You can bake anything in an easy 474 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: bak oven because it's just a little oven. Yeah, you 475 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: can make pizza, and you can make you don't have 476 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: to buy these mixes. You can just bake cook that 477 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: you made from scratch. 478 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's like a lot of recipes online easy 479 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: bakeoven recipes. 480 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. They actually don't taste like garbage, right. 481 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, they did have a huge line of mixes though, 482 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: and they sold more than one hundred million of them 483 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: over the over the years. 484 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: That's how they get you. 485 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: But I mean they there. There were recipes for mixes 486 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: for candy bars, pecan brittle, popcorn, bubble gum. You could 487 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: bake your own bubble gum. Interesting, it is interesting. I 488 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: would have tried that for sure. I want to see 489 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: bubblegum come out in like a brownie pan. Yeah, I'd 490 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: be like, I want some of that bubble gum. That 491 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: looks amazing. 492 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: We had a cotton candy machine, now that I remember what. 493 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: It would just spin sugar and you would. 494 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I know what they do. Yeah, I wanted one. 495 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: Yep. That thing was probably dangerous. It was probably like 496 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: a nuclear centerfuge. 497 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: What was interesting about those are fascinating to me was 498 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: like the cotton candy. Oh, it's not called it's like 499 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: a not the web sugar or something like that. Yeah, yeah, 500 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: I want to say web, but that's not it either. 501 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: It's not really visible in the machine. Yeah, but when 502 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: you stick in the little cone, it just builds up 503 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: on it like it like it's just coming out of 504 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: another dimension into this. 505 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: One, like coming out of a spider's butt. 506 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: It's awesome to see. Yeah, a pink and pink and 507 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: blue spider's butt. 508 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: Man. I had to go out yesterday to uh, I 509 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: still have my pickup truck then, because I just kept 510 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: it because it was paid for and I still moved 511 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: and haul stuff occasionally. Yeah, I had to move something. 512 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: Justify it to me. 513 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: I had to move something yesterday and I went out 514 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: and there was the most beautiful, huge spider web from 515 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: a tree down attached to the rear tailgate of my truck. 516 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Me like chuck smash with this big. 517 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: Spider right in the middle, and I was like, oh man, 518 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: I just felt so bad. I didn't know what to do. 519 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: So you just put in reverse and pretended nothing, you 520 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: didn't see anything. No. 521 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: I actually plucked it off little by little because I 522 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: wanted to ensure his safety. And the web just goes 523 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: crumbling down into a long, you know, skinny string, and 524 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: he climbs right up to the tree and I was 525 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: just like, I'm really sorry. 526 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I'm sure you are. 527 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Let's see you. He tried to sorry spit venom into 528 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: my eyeball. 529 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: He's like, what do you need your truck for? And 530 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: You're like, I gotta go get peanut butter. He's like, oh, good, 531 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: thank you for ruining thirty hours of my work. 532 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: A giant vat of peanut butter that would only fit 533 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: in my truck. All right, So let's let's fash forward 534 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 2: here to the modern times. In two thousand and seven, okay, 535 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: the Energy Independence and Security Act, when the government said 536 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: by twenty twelve light bulbs have to increase their efficiency 537 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: by twenty five percent. So bye bye one hundred watt 538 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: incandescent bulb. 539 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me just say something. Let me set 540 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: that up to Over the years, the easy Bake oven 541 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: had just remained a steady cellar for Kenner and then 542 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: has Bro, and the design had been basically the same 543 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: and went from two bulbs to one bulb. But it 544 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: was this closed box where the heating element was, where 545 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: there was a slot on the side. Remember I went 546 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: through the whole thing, pushed it in, and it came 547 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: out the cooling chamber on the other side. But really 548 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: the design was the same. The outward look changed like 549 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: it went from the weird its own thing to the 550 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: late seventies and early eighties it started to resemble a microwave. 551 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: And then in response to this change in light bulb requirements, 552 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Easy Bake did a redesign in two thousand and six, 553 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: and for the first time ever, the easy bake oven 554 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: actually looked like an oven, like a stove. It had 555 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: little like fake burners on the top. It looked like 556 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: a stove. And it was actually a front loader to 557 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: where there was like a slot in the front of 558 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: the easy bake oven and that's where you put the 559 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: thing in, and that's what you actually pulled it out from, too, 560 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: and it went right into the heating element. And they 561 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: replaced the light bulb because again so long hundred light 562 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: bulb because of the energy act with an action heating element, 563 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: a ceramic heating element like an oven. Yeah, it was 564 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: an oven, so they made an oven. But then when 565 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: they made the oven, they redesigned this thing so that 566 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: you could put your fingers right into the oven while 567 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: it was baking at its hottest temperature. And of course 568 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: kids immediately started doing that. 569 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: How did that one slip past? 570 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: No idea? 571 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that just doesn't make any sense at all. 572 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: So in the end, I think what close to two 573 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty kids ended up with like second third 574 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: degree burns. Yeah, one partial amputation of a finger. 575 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because kids would get their finger stuck in it, right, 576 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: and it's just set and then some kids got their 577 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: finger stuck in it while it was heated hot. Yeah, 578 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and yes, they were getting huge burns. So Hasbro was like, well, 579 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: we'll do a recall, and they recalled like nine hundred 580 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: and eighty five thousand, I think ultimately a million of 581 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: these things. They recalled. First, they tried to say, here's 582 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: a little fix. 583 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a retrofitted piece. 584 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: It's really easy to snap it on and it'll solve everything. 585 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: And apparently it did solve everything. 586 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: They're like, why didn't you make it that way to 587 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: begin with? 588 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: Right, But most parents were not, like they didn't have 589 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: their ears out that there was a recall of their 590 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: easy bake oven and so the the kids kept getting burned, 591 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: and finally Hasbro was like, just bring them back. So 592 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: there's a recall of a million Easy Bake ovens from 593 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: that two thousand and six redesign. 594 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: That's a toy for them, like to if that would 595 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: have ruined the easy bake oven, that would have been 596 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: a big big deal. 597 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: So what they did was they temporarily went back to 598 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: an old design featuring a light bulb too, while they 599 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: redesigned it to the new version. So then they came 600 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: out in twenty eleven with that that really ugly designed 601 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: what's called the Easy Bake Ultimate Oven. 602 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh I'm looking at it now. That things. Yeah, it does. 603 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: It looks terrible. 604 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's super It looks like it's on the 605 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: go or something like that. I don't like it. It 606 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: looks like a weird toaster oven. 607 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's sort of. It looks like it's trying 608 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: to look futuristic and modern, which never ends up looking 609 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: like that. 610 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: No it doesn't. But they also made it pink and purple. Yep, 611 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: super girly. That ads were flowers girl targeted. Yet there's 612 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: flowers on it, and again they were like, nope, this 613 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: is for girls. Boys don't play with us. So in 614 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: two thousand, I think twenty thirteen, there was a girl 615 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: named McKenna Pope, Yes, who is just a hero of heroes. 616 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: She's amazing. I saw an interview with her on CNN. 617 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: Pretty great. 618 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: She's just so like self possessed and intelligent and like 619 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: well spoken but also like a kid and know where 620 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: she's a kid. She's just amazing. One of those clearly reincarnated. 621 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: And she went on she started a petition to get 622 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: Hasbro to make a gender neutral version of its Easy 623 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: Bake Oven because her little brother liked to bake but 624 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: realized that the Easy Bake Oven was for girls. She 625 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: wanted him to be able to bake, so she said, Hasbro, 626 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: why don't you make one that's gender neutral, and got 627 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: something like fifty thousand signatures for her petition, and Hasbro 628 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: came out with a new version of the Easy Bake 629 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Ultimate Oven, which was just a black version of it, 630 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: black and a big silver. 631 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: I'm surprised it wasn't like our brush stainless model. Sure 632 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: like to emulate, you know, Kitchens, right, Yeah, she's gee, 633 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 2: she's probably almost twenty years old. Now, Yeah, when what 634 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: she's doing mckennapope, are you out there? 635 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: She's some sort of like consumer protection lawyer. I'll bet 636 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: probably so. I hope so, me too. 637 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: Two thousand and six, they go into the National Toy 638 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 639 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: The same year that disastrous redesign. 640 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got in just under the wire. 641 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, can't take it back. 642 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to look here, and they're from their very 643 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: own website, some of the landmark years, and it is 644 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: kind of funny that emulated the styles at the time, 645 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: unless they were just doing pink. Like in sixty nine 646 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: they premiered the avocado Green. Yeah, the very next year 647 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: was of his gold. 648 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very good metallic p You say that. 649 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: A lot in our house. Oh, they had a potato 650 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: chip maker, do we mention that? No, nineteen seventy three, 651 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: the easy baked potato chip maker. 652 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 653 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: And then in seventy eight they finally started putting a 654 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: fake digital clock on it that always read twelve thirty. Okay, 655 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: not for twenty. You see that a lot as a joke. 656 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: Sure, and like the pothead joke. 657 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you'll see an alarm clock ad in 658 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: like a skymall or something, and I'll say four twenty. 659 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: Right, because the publishers are paying attention, they get it, 660 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: doesn't know. 661 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: Or they don't care. 662 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Sure. 663 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: I remember years ago when we used to have a 664 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: lot of illustrations on how stuffworks and had two in 665 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: the house illustrators that I won't name, and remember one 666 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: of them drew a like a park scene for me 667 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: and the tree clearly had a marijuana leaf like embedded 668 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: in it. And I was like, hey man, you can't 669 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: do that, and he was like, oh, that was completely 670 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: an accident, right. I was like, man, I wasn't born yesterday. 671 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen a pot leaf before. 672 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: I mean I thought it was funny, but like, you. 673 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I couldn't do that. You got anything else, 674 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Easy bake oven. 675 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: Mac and cheese you can bake. Oh. In two thousand 676 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: and three they they introduced the real meal oven, and 677 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: you could That's when you could do like French fries 678 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 2: and pizza and mac and cheese and stuff. 679 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: I think that was the predecessor to the ceramic heating 680 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: element that they eventually read the easy Bacon in two 681 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: thousand and six. 682 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff. 683 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: If you want a nice blast in the past, just 684 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: type in like easy bake oven commercials. There's one from 685 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty that was just perfect. 686 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Was it rad? 687 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: No? It was pre rad. Okay, it was like Carpenter's era, Gotcha, 688 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: which was not rad but still lovely. Yes. I love 689 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: the Carpenters me too. Well, if you want to know 690 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: more about easy bake ovens or the Carpenters or the 691 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Snoopy snowcom machine, just go onto the internet. It's a 692 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: vast repository of stuff like that. And since I said 693 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: that it's time for listener mail. 694 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: Hey guys, I'm a freelance writer who works remotely, so 695 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: I've been writing and traveling the world for the past 696 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: year and a half. It's been wild. Since I've been 697 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: traveling alone, it can get lonely, but from Mexico City 698 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: to Bali to Tokyo, you guys have been with me, 699 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: keeping me company, making me laugh, teach me all kinds 700 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: of cool facts. As a content writer, I also feel 701 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: a connection to y'all. We both have to research seemingly 702 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: mundane topics sometimes and discover the cool interesting things about them, 703 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: present them in a palatable way. People sometimes laugh when 704 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm telling them I'm writing something like the history of 705 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: the eg McMuffin or the best month to buy a mattress. 706 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: But I just point to your podcast as a sterling 707 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: example of how gems and surprises lie within even the 708 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: most unassuming topics. 709 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, I agree. 710 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: Have you guys ever considered doing a show on digital 711 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: nomadding never? I know it's becoming increasingly popular. Is more 712 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: companies race remote working. 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Maria 731 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: Christina Laedonde. 732 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, beautiful name. 733 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Lalonde Leonde, Maria Christina Lalonde. 734 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: And I hope that your buddy did just burst out 735 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: into tears. That'd be amazing, pretty neat. Thanks for that. Email. 736 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch with us, you 737 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: can find us on the web. But stuff Youshould Know 738 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: dot com check out our social links there, and if 739 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: you like, send an email to stuff Podcasts at houstuffworks 740 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: dot com. 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