1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Our three 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: kicks off. Now we have Senator Ron Johnson with us. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Senator Johnson appreciation making the time. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, how you doing. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. Let me start with this all 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: the stuff coming out about Biden. You know, you've been 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: somebody who's been speaking loudly on some of these fact 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: finding issues, whether it's about COVID or the Hunter laptop, 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: or the Biden crime family, any number of things for 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: a while. Now, do you think that this will result 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: in any political consequences? Let me and I'll put it 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: to you this way, Senator, do you think that this 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: is possibly going to push Biden in terms of twenty 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: twenty four to make a decision one way or the other. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: And how do you see that playing out? 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it should have resulted in flitical 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: consequences back in twenty twenty, but it didn't. We had 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: more than enough evidence certainly convinced me that he was 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: unfit for office. The evidence just continues to accumulate. And again, 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: what I try and point out to is we really 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: have three scandals that we're dealing with here. We have 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: the Biden family, the corrupt drifters that they are. That's 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: a scandal. How we have a now an American president 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: compromise and we have no idea how this is impacting 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: foreign policy. But then we also have the corruption, the 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: scandal of partisanship within the FBI, within the Department of Justice. 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's pretty apparent as well as then. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: And this may this may be the most serious. This 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: may be the most dangerous thing to our democracy to 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: steal a turn from the left. The complicit and corrupt 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: media that refuses to cover this, which is why it 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: probably won't result in the type of consequences that we 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: want to see. And I heard earlier in the show 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: you were talking about the border. I mean, it's just 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: jaw dropping that the media just completely ignores that catastrophy 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: that's occurring on the southern border. So again, three separate scandals, 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: all incredibly serious, all pretty well covered up by our 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: corrupt media. 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen this news yet, Senator Johnson, 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: but I wanted to ask you about it. Axios has 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: a story up about Joe Manchin and he said just 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: a few minutes ago, quote, he's serious thinking seriously about 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: dropping his affiliation with the Democrat Party and becoming an independent. 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: He said, I have to have peace of mind. The 45 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: brand has become so bad, the d brand and the 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 3: our brand. You've heard me say a million times I'm 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: not a Washington Democrat. Now this is, of course convenient 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: because Joe Manchin is up for reelection next year, and 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: it appears many in West Virginia are not inclined to 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: vote for him. You're in the Senate, have you heard this, 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: disgust In Earnest. Do you think Joe Manchin would caut 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: us with the Democrats or the Republicans? Because Kirsten has 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: already announced that she is an independent? And I asked, 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: because we're basically in a fifty to fifty Senate, I'm 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: curious your reaction to those comments. 56 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: Do they surprise you? What do you think might happen there? 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Unless he says he'll become an independent and caucus with 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: the Republicans, it's completely meaningless and I would completely ignore it. 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: So the press ass follow up, Okay, come in Penant, 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: who you incaucus with? 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: Yes, that's the number one question. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: Democrat. He's a Democrat and he'd buy and large votes 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: with the Democrats. I mean, you know, again, he votes 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: enough with Republicans on issues that he pretty well has 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: to vote with us on, you know, things like the 66 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: border is he's the only Democrat that I think voted 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: when I put up an amendment to actually complete the 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: wall where you'd already bought and paid for this costing 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: us more not to build it than to build it. 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: So he votes with us on that, and he does 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: vote with us, but unless he caucuses with us, it's 72 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: completely meaningless if he goes independent. 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Senator Ron Johnson and Senator in your home 74 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin, there was, as I understand today, pretty 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: consequential election as it pertains to the state Supreme Court 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: and how that could affect things in twenty twenty four. 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Can you give us an update on that and generally 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: how is Wisconsin looking for Republicans in this upcoming pivotal election. 79 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: It's going to be really tough statewide. That was a 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: crucial Supreme Court race that we lost. The Liberals have 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: now fully taken over, and they are radical leftists. I mean, 82 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: they just basically stripped the chief Justice, who's a republican's 83 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: a conservative of basically her powers are going to take 84 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: total control, probably redistrict. There's even talk of him literally 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: throwing the maps out from all of our state Assembly 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: state Senate races, throwing the maps out, throwing that election out, 87 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: and potentially demanding a new election before November twenty twenty 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: four to remake the Wisconsin state legislature. So I don't 89 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: know how far these radical leftists are going to go, 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: but it should concern all of us. It's going to 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: have an impact on potentially districting in congressional races. Who knows. 92 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: It was an incredibly important race and we lost it. 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: We're talking to Senator Johnson. We're going to do an event. 94 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna be up. You're gonna be in studio with me. 95 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: Buck's going to be on summer vacation, which we'll be 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: able to have to have another trip, but we're going 97 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: to be doing an event. It's gonna be at the 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: PABs Theater. I'm going to be speaking there. It's going 99 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: to be a lot of fun. The next day, that's 100 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 3: on August twenty second. The next day is the debate. 101 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: Lots of discussion about whether Donald Trump should debate about 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: whether he should sign the pledge to support any other 103 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: Republican in the event he were not nominee. If President 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: Trump called you, and maybe he has, because he's asking 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: a lot of people their advice on whether it makes 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: sense to debate in Milwaukee on August twenty third with 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: the other Republican presidential candidates. 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: What would you tell. 109 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Him, Well, first I tell him to sign the pledge. Yeah, 110 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: he signed it back in twenty sixteen. Ranks previous present 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: it to him and he signed it, and now is important. 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: If he doesn't sign that, I mean, it's I think 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: it would be a mistake. Obviously, people in Sconsin love 114 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: to seehim on the stage. They'd like to hear his views. 115 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: He needs to explain the American public about you know, 116 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: what he did during COVID. Uh. There's a lot of 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: things that he can talk about, and I'd like to 118 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: see him on the stage, but you know that would 119 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 2: be up to him. 120 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Senator Johnson with us now from Wisconsin. Senator are you 121 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: are you confident that the Biden regime or that Joe 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Biden is going to stand for re election or are 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: you on the side of things where you think that 124 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: the Democrats are going to try to pull something at 125 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: the last minute. 126 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: Here Yeah, if I had to bet, I probably bet 127 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: they'll do that, and they replaced him with a candidate 128 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: that cannot be properly vetted. You know, this would be 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: the candidate that media will hail is going to be 130 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: the savior of the United States and the Democrat Party, 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: and it won't be a fair fight. So that if 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: I bet, that's why I bet. I mean, I can't. 133 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: And again, it's it's sad to see anybody deteriorate with age, right. 134 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: I just have a hard time believing America would elect 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: Joe Biden as infirmed as he appears to be and 136 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: as a corrupt as I know he is. 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Speaking of corrupt, I'm sure you have seen your colleague 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: rand Paul has a referred doctor Fauci to the Department 139 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: of Justice and now also the DC Attorney's Office for 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: prosecution for perjury. Is there any doubt in your mind 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: that doctor Fauci committed perjury and should he be charged with, 142 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: at a minimum, the crime of lying to Congress. 143 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: Probably, and I would consider doctor Fauci a very bad person. 144 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: You know, the sabotage of early treatment, which costs, according 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: to doctors I talked to you, probably hundreds of thousands 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: of Americans their lives because he was just, you know, 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: hail bent on making sure they American gout a vaccine 148 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: in their arm. Of course, the vaccines haven't worked, and 149 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: they've injured untold numbers of individuals that he completely ignores 150 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: as well, together with his corrupt federal agencies. So yeah, 151 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm not a real fan of Anthony Fauci. I'm not 152 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: a real fan of the people in charge of the CDC, 153 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: the nih the FDA. We've got a real problem on 154 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: our hands. We've got a corrupt General Health AGENC. We've 155 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: got obviously corrupt Big Pharma. There's there's so much corruption. 156 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: You can just tell the disgust in my voice here me. 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: America is going down a very dangerous path right now, 158 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: and Anthony Fauci is one of the one of the henchmen. 159 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: Senator Johnson, if I could circle us back to immigration, 160 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: which you mentioned we were talking about that really kicked 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: off the show on the just the reality that we 162 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: have a de facto open border, and that we have 163 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: cities that are now becoming giant refugee camps, or have 164 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: refugee camps that are going to rival any others in 165 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: certainly the Western hemisphere. Given that reality, do you think 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: that if we were to have a Republican House, Senate, 167 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: and presidency in twenty twenty four, are Republican members in 168 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the Senate United and reliable on doing something legislatively to 169 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: fix the border crisis as it stands. 170 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, without sixty votes, it's going to be very difficult. 171 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: But we know that a president that's dedicated to cloths 172 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: and the border can do it. That's what Donald Trump did. 173 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: And what's sort of depressing about this is we pretty well 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: had stopped the flow of uncompanyed children and family units 175 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: exploiting our asyum laws. As a result, less human trafficking, 176 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: less sex trafficking. We had it close to under control, 177 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: still had the single adults coming in, but probably about 178 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: half the level. And then Joe Biden dedicated opening up 179 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: the border did so. Now it's about five million People's 180 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: my best guest. Five million people either encountered process and 181 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: dispersed or come in as a known or unknown godaway. 182 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: Half the states have populations less than five million people. 183 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: That's the extent of the album. And what New York 184 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: and these other cities are screaming about, it's just a 185 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: fraction of the problem. But again, you got a media 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: that's covering up and they are the ones that are 187 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: corrupt and complicit. If we had that honest news media 188 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: reporting on this, America won't stand for it. I mean, 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: the cost of this is skyrock man. I hear the 190 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: numbers in New York that you're talking about. Now, look 191 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: at what that's gonna do nationally. Take a look at 192 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: how that's going to change the character of this country. 193 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: I'm all for legal immigration, but until we fix this problem, 194 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: until we secure the border and stop the illegal immigration, 195 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: there's just not gonna be a way to actually fix 196 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: the problem. 197 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: Senator Johnson, who do you think is actually making decisions 198 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: in the White House now? 199 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: A bunch of radical leftists? Does it really make any 200 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: difference who exactly is pulling the levers there? You know, Listen, 201 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: there's an elite group of individuals globally that are having 202 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: undue influence over politics globally. I honestly believe I want 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: to said that three or four years ago, before the pandemic, 204 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: But now you see what's happened during the pandemic. The 205 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: trusted news network, the censorship that the spreading and misinformation 206 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: by accusing people like you, and you know Kraay and 207 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: Buck and Ron Johnson is spreading this information. We were 208 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: telling the American people the truth, guys, And I wish 209 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: I could say I'm a huge optimist. Right now, I'm 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: in a pretty dark mood because of what I'm seeing. 211 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: This nation is on a very dangerous path, and more 212 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Americans have to pull their heads out, open up their eyes, 213 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: and understand that we've got to fix this. We cannot. Republicans, 214 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Conservatives cannot lose the twenty twenty four election. As imperfect 215 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: as the Republican Party is, the Democrats are vastly, vastly worse. 216 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: You just said something that think is really important because 217 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: it ties in with the challenge of winning Wisconsin. You 218 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: know that specifically because you won I think by twenty 219 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: six thousand votes for six more years. 220 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: Thankfully. 221 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: If the ultimate nominee of their Republican Party for president 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: to you and said I want you to be vice president, 223 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: would you consider it? And do you think you could 224 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: deliver Wisconsin based on your knowledge of that state, because 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: I bet you would agree. Whichever way Wisconsin goes is 226 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: probably who's going to win the presidency. 227 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if you had a president's candidate 228 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: come up and ask me to be vice president. I don't 229 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: know who would turn somebody down. I mean, it's just 230 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: your measked to serve you. I stepped up, played for 231 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: a third term because this country is in big trouble. 232 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: To win Wisconsin, the formula is ground game. It's grassroots. 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: It's get the paid field staff out there and doing 234 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: what the Democrats do. They only have to do it 235 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: in Madison and Milwaukee. We need to mind votes in 236 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: every small, little town and municipality in Wisconsin. It's a 237 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: much more difficult task, but that's where we need to 238 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: spend the money. I keep telling you know, people that 239 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: run the NSC and these national campaigns, quit spending so 240 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: much money on stupid ads. Spend money on the ground game. 241 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: That's what we have to do. 242 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Senator Johnson, before we let you go and thank you 243 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: for all this important insighted information, especially in your home 244 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin, we have a situation here. We wanted 245 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: you to weigh in on what is the best buddy 246 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: cop movie of all time. 247 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not real fan of Hollywood. I'm not 248 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: I kind of like Men in Black because I just 249 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: like science fiction movies. 250 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: But in John, that's a good answer. 251 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm not the ingough person to evaluate Hollywood. 252 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: That's a good answer. Appreciate you, sir, Thank you, sir. 253 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, take care, keep up good work. 254 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: Guess what online identity theft one of those crimes that 255 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: happens without at arms going off or cops showing up 256 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: looking for the bad guys. Instead, you've got some cyber 257 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: hacker halfway around the world breaking into company databases, stealing data, 258 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: selling it on the dark web to the highest bidder. 259 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: That's likely what happened to a company you've likely not 260 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: heard of before, or one called Maximus Federal Services their 261 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: Medicare contractor a big one large enough that their computers 262 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: have the information on more than eleven million Americans. That 263 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: information potentially exposed several months ago in May. The compromised 264 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: information reads like a checklist for cyber hackers. Social security numbers, names, 265 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: phone numbers, emails, addresses, healthcare claims, and more. It's important 266 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. Remember, 267 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: no one can prevent all identity theft or monitor all 268 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: transactions at all businesses, but it's easy to help protect 269 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: yourself with LifeLock, Join now and save twenty five percent 270 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: off your first year with promo code Clay one eight 271 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: hundred LifeLock. Go online to LifeLock dot com and use 272 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: promo code Clay for twenty five percent off. 273 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: He's Buck Sexton, He's Clay travels. Together, they're breathing sanity 274 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: into an insane world. 275 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: I don't think there's ever been a clearer case of 276 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 5: perjury in the history of government testimony. 277 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: And I don't say that lightly. 278 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: He said adamantly that the government never funded this gain 279 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: of function research. We now have the Government Accountability Office, 280 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 5: the GAO has admitted that the funding came from the NIH. 281 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: We have the acting Director Tabak of the NIH admitting 282 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: it in writing that it came from the NIH. But 283 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: now we have really the smoking gun, and that is 284 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: Fauci in private saying the opposite of what he was 285 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: saying in public. 286 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: So he's caught dead to rights here. 287 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: But we have an incredibly partisan Attorney General Garland who's 288 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 5: refusing to act. 289 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: So I've taken the extraordinary. 290 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: Step of actually going to the local US attorney in 291 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 5: DC to see if. 292 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: You will act, Grand Paul. 293 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: They're saying that Fauci is a liar and more importantly 294 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: in this instance, are under oath, which is a crime, 295 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: and that he thinks that there should be action taken 296 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: on this. 297 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: I do think that. 298 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Fauci was the most destructive health bureaucrat in the modern 299 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: history of the United States. I think that what he 300 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: did to the country is unforgivable. Honestly, the fact that 301 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: McLay we just played that woman who's masking up with 302 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: an N ninety five. If Fauci had a shred, a 303 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: shred of decency, honesty, honor at this point, he would 304 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: just say, hey, everybody stop wearing masks. Okay, I'm not 305 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: even saying he has to admit that it was all 306 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: a crap and he was lying the whole time. That 307 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: would be nice too. He won't even say it now, 308 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: though he's he hero wants the fan club to continue. 309 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: That's right, because it would be so easy buck for 310 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: him to just come out and say the national emergency 311 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: is over. I think anxietet from COVID is more dangerous 312 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: at this point than COVID itself. If you are still, 313 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: if you have made it through, and he could even 314 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: couch it by saying and a lot of people didn't 315 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, we could have been better all these things. 316 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: Just saying it's time to get back to normalcy, I 317 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: think would go a long way. 318 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: And the fact that he won't say that, that he's 319 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: continuing to let tens of millions of people live in fear, 320 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: in mortal peril for their lives. I can't imagine how 321 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: awful that is. And I always come back to this, 322 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how awful it would be to be 323 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: a kid whose parents have put you through this for 324 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: three years now and you're still having to walk around. 325 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: Wearing a mask and you have zero risk. 326 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: If you seen the photos that are circulating still of 327 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: infants in the in the nursery, in the hospital with 328 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: shields on plast is crazy. Yeah, So people were doing 329 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: to take the virus seriously. It was a mass mental illness, 330 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: it was mass formation hysteria, it was a psychological disorder. 331 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about My Pillow. 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Let me tell you this is a great 355 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: time to tell you that tomorrow we are stacked when 356 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: it comes to legal and constitutional analysis, all these major stories, 357 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: whether it's the Trump indictmonds, the Biden realities, the Hunter 358 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: Biden plea bargain, which is still hanging out there somewhere. 359 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it still could happen. I think it still 360 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: will happen. 361 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: They're just going to try to find a way to 362 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: ease it through on the second on the second attempt. 363 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: But we have Andy McCarthy gotta be joining us tomorrow, 364 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz and Julie Kelly, So I don't know, 365 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is like the it's like the Avengers 366 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: for law nerds or something. We've got a lot of 367 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: people to join in tomorrow on this one. So we're 368 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: excited about that. And this is the latest just from these. 369 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Remember there's going to be court filings in the various cases. 370 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: We're probably going to have the Atlanta indictment next week, 371 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: the grand jury's meeting. They believe the grand jury is 372 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: likely to hand down an indictment against Trump there, so 373 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: that's likely to be next week. And in the meantime, 374 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: the prosecution of the DC case. I guess we call 375 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: it interesting. It's really the election twenty twenty case. But 376 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: everyone's calling it the jan sixth case. I guess it 377 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of touches on both. They are trying to have 378 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: the case, the trial rather begin on January second of 379 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. They think it'll take a little over 380 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: a month or so to bring this case in the 381 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: court filing, which is out government's response to Court's August third, 382 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three minute order. 383 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: It's out now. 384 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: The government proposed to the trial begin then will take 385 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: no more than four to six weeks. A January second 386 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: trial date, I'm reading from this court order, would vindicate 387 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: the public's strong interest in a speedy trial, et cetera, 388 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: et cetera for a president who is charged with conspiring 389 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: to overturn the legitimate results of the twenty twenty presidential election, 390 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: obstruct the certification of the election results, and discount citizens 391 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: legitimate votes. Or this is in the court record. This 392 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: is the prosecution asking for this, the Special Council asking 393 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: for this. Okay, Clay, a couple of big things. Not 394 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: only are they trying to make this case happen in 395 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: the election year, so the whole thing I've been saying 396 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: all along everybody, they're not going to why they're going 397 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: to delay it. They're not going to allow it to 398 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: be delayed. They're having it. And they're jumping ahead of 399 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: the scheduled case for Florida. Right, isn't Florida later. 400 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: Than this, So they are jumping ahead of New York too. 401 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: In New York is March. 402 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they are moving this one to the front 403 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: of the line. They're moving it to the like most 404 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: damaging politically point possible in the primary schedule. And Clay, 405 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: you know this is what like you we've been talking 406 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: about this right normal cases that the fair noose Elizabeth 407 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Holmes trial took years and years and years to prosecute 408 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: her for being a massive, massive fraud. 409 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 4: This judge in Chutkin right in DC, she's gonna ram 410 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: all this stuff through. They're not. 411 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: She's not gonna delay this. She's not gonna give Trump 412 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: fair process. You see it differently. 413 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: I cannot imagine that they can get the trial turned 414 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 3: this quickly. This will be a great discussion tomorrow with 415 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: Julie Kelly because she has covered the jan six cases 416 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: better than almost anybody out there, probably the best in 417 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: the entire country. And I know we talked to her 418 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: before the average run up for JAM six cases has 419 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: been eighteen to twenty four months. 420 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: I think she said so. 421 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: In other words, from the time of an indictment charges 422 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: being filed. Typically it's taking a year and a half 423 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: to two years for those trials to get done. This 424 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: would be four or five months unheard of. Now politically, 425 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way that Trump wants this 426 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: one going to trial before the other two, because I think, 427 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: by far, this is the greatest legal peril of conviction 428 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: that he faces. 429 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: Now. 430 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: The case in South Florida, as we have told you, 431 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: I think is an easier case, and I think this 432 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: one will get tossed by the Supreme Court. And we'll 433 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: talk about this tomorrow more. But I geeked out legally 434 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: yesterday explaining to you why I don't think these are 435 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: crimes at all that Jack Smith has charged Trump with, 436 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: and I stand by that. I think that the law 437 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: is on his side, but it can take a while 438 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 3: for that to get to the Supreme Court. And to 439 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: your point, we know right now he's scheduled to stand 440 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: trial in New York City in March, that he's scheduled 441 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 3: to stand trial in Florida in May. So they are 442 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: stacking it such that in their ideal world, he would 443 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: be on trial for the entirety of twenty. 444 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Four January March May. Now add to those are all 445 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: trial dates that have been set. This is no longer 446 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: genuar regulation set March and May. I'm sorry, I'm sorry March, 447 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna get it, Clay. 448 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: I think I think the judge is gonna get you. 449 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: Don't think so you can judge there Ruskin's gonna deny 450 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: the special counsel their request here. 451 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: Well, I just think there's gonna be so many issues 452 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: at play that it's gonna be hard to expedite this 453 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: and get it done. 454 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: Now. 455 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: This is the rig job is in if they get 456 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: this trial in in January. And the reason why I 457 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: would say this is so significant buck for everybody out 458 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: there listening. 459 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: They're saying four to six weeks. 460 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: So if you took the government at its word, I 461 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: think you need to add a couple of weeks probably, 462 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: So let's say two months. This trial would legitimately be 463 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: going on while everybody is voting in the Republican primary. 464 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: January fifteenth, we know the Iowa caucus. Early February, we 465 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 3: know the New Hampshire March fifth, or so Buck, this 466 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: thing's going to be decided Clay, I mean Trump, not Clay. 467 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Clay's not going to prison Trump, hopefully not. Hopefully. 468 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: You know, I keep doing this show long. 469 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: Enough, somebody's going to definitely be knocking on my door. 470 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: I feel comfortable about that. 471 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: You're in a position where you could legitimately see as 472 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: a possibility. I'm not making a prediction. I'm just saying 473 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: it is possible that Trump on or within days of 474 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: like Super Tuesday, could be found guilty of a felony 475 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: in a federal court that could have That is just 476 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: reality right now as we see it, which is completely crazy, 477 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: but this is where we are. What I was going 478 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: to say say, though, is let's say they get to January. 479 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: To be fair, to be clear, as you said, it's 480 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: not yet agreed to. I think they will get it. 481 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: It's the most anti Trump judge pretty much you could 482 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: possibly get. I don't think she's gonna say, well, you 483 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: know Trump's political aspirations. Remember, they're not supposed to you know, 484 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: they play it both ways. They're not supposed to take 485 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: into account what Trump's political aspirations are in this. In 486 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: their minds, it's purely criminal process right, criminal justice system 487 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: working without you know, fear or favor, which we know 488 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: is nonsense, but that's what their their theory or their 489 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: operating theory will be. 490 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 6: Here. 491 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: You could have January March May the Atlanta prosecution. If 492 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: it comes down, the indictment comes down next week, they're 493 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: going to try to wedge that in there somewhere either 494 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: I would assume now after it. 495 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: But to your point, you. 496 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: Could have Trump on trial for really the entire election year, 497 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: because I mean the federal trial in what is it 498 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: may call it six day weeks, and then after that 499 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: you're going to have maybe the a trial, which maybe 500 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: that's only a few weeks, but they're going to have 501 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: it on trial there the entire year. 502 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: And that's even let's say he beats everything. 503 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: It's crazy and I would just point out it needs 504 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: to be bear repeating over and over again, and we're 505 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: going to do it. They are claiming that they care 506 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: about preserving democracy, and in the name of democracy, the 507 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: United States government, Joe Biden's Department of Justice is requesting 508 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump stand federal trial. While all of you 509 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: in Iowa are caucusing, while all of you in New 510 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: Hampshire are lining up to vote, while everyone in Nevada, 511 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: while everyone in South Carolina, all of you that may 512 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: be out exercising your constitutional right to pick a representative 513 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: to run for president, they are going to be trying 514 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: to put him in prison by their own request, while 515 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: all of that voting is going on. I'm not surprised 516 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: they made the request. 517 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: Buck. 518 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: If they are able to jump. 519 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: To the front of the line, this is not the 520 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: most perilous because again I think this is gonna get 521 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 3: tossed at the Supreme Court eventually. But they want to 522 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: brand Donald Trump a felon, and they want to do 523 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: it before he even gets the opportunity to win the 524 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: Republican nomination. 525 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: All right, let's call it right now, Clay. Does Judge 526 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: Chutkin agree to the Special Counsel's timetable? 527 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: I think, based on where it's being requested, I think 528 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: she may back it up to February and claim that 529 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: she's being like, you know, being respectful. I do think 530 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: I do think the true and this is where having 531 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: the right lawyers matter so much. 532 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: I think I think she gives them exactly what they 533 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: want without without even a second thought. 534 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: But we'll see if you. 535 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: Had true legal all stars representing you. I think the 536 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 3: Trump legal team could throw in front of this a 537 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: series of procedural hurdles, motioning arguments, appeals that would make 538 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: it impossible to have a trial by that date. I 539 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: think that they would have the legal mechanism to do so. 540 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: But I don't know that he has that legal acumen 541 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: representing him. To be fair, I don't think he has 542 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: the dream If I were Trump, remember OJ had the 543 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: dream team of lawyers. If I were Trump, I would 544 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: want the equivalent of the modern day OJ legal team, 545 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: and I don't think he has that. 546 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Also, if they were to put Clay and I do 547 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: agree on this, if they put cameras in the courtroom, 548 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: Trump's going to take his own defense. 549 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: Defense. 550 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, that's what I mean, to take the stand 551 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: in his own defense. He's he's going to actually take 552 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: the stand. Come back to close this out here in 553 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: a second. You know a friend of this program, Dutch 554 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: menden Hall is the CEO of RAD Diversified. 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That's t h e 572 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: r A d thrad dot com. 573 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: Sunday Hang with Clay and Bucking a new podcast find 574 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 575 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Finishing up the Thursday edition of the program, I'm down 576 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: here in Atlanta, Bucks ducked out. 577 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: It's got an obligation. 578 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: We'll I'll be back tomorrow, but I'm gonna be with 579 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: our Atlanta affiliate down here at the Republican Jewish Coalition 580 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: Extra one oh six point three for those listening to 581 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: you to us right now in Atlanta, Rhino from there 582 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: will be with me talking about the new book, American Playbook, 583 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: How to Make America, saying again there are some tickets 584 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: left and you can get them at RJCCHQ dot org 585 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: slash Claytravis. Basically, if you just type in Atlanta Claytravis, 586 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: I think on Google, you will find this event and 587 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun. Several hundred people I think already 588 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: signed up fun group, get a copy of the book 589 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: and it is going to be a fun discussion as well, 590 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: and a bunch of you want to weigh in on 591 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: a variety of different storylines out there to repeat news 592 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: breaking that the government has officially requested a January date 593 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: for the January sixth charges, the conspiracy charges that I 594 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: think are rooted in absolute illegitimacy from a legal perspective, 595 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: but they are trying to get that trial done before 596 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 3: we even get to the trial in March and New 597 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: York City that is already scheduled and right now what 598 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: is scheduled as a May trial in South Florida. They're 599 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: trying to jump the line, so to speak. And the 600 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: people who claim that they're so concerned about democracy are 601 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: trying to put Donald Trump in handcuffs. As you will 602 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: be out there voting in many different primary elections across 603 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: the entire country. Remember, by somewhere around March twelfth, which 604 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: is not very far from now, the expectation is that 605 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: the Republican primary will have selected its nominee and many 606 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: of you will be able to vote, especially if you're 607 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: listening in Iowa in a little over five months from now, 608 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: because January fifteenth is the Iowa Caucuses. Several of you 609 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: went to weigh in on a variety of topics. I'll 610 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: take a couple of your calls here in a moment, 611 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: But first I thought this was interesting. This is from 612 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: the guys behind Real Clear Politics. Fantastic website. Good data 613 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: analysis there. If you're wondering about past Republican primary races. 614 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: On this date. 615 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen, Trump had an eleven point eight lead 616 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: according to the polls, in the race for the Republican nomination. 617 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: In twenty eleven, Mitt Romney was up five. This one 618 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: is pretty interesting. In two thousand and seven, Rudy Giuliani 619 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: was up ten point three points in the poll. 620 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: It looked like, if you remember those days, that. 621 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: Rudy Giuliani was going to be the Republican nominee to 622 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: take over for George W. Bush, he was America's mayor. 623 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: He entered with a lot of momentum. Right now, in 624 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: the real clear politics average, again they've been doing this 625 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: for years, Trump has a thirty nine point one percent lead. 626 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: So the biggest lead in the prior three Republican contested 627 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 3: primaries was Trump plus eleven point eight all the way 628 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: back in fifteen. Trump now has opened up a thirty 629 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: nine point one lead. All right, I also wanted to 630 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: play this. Let me play this clip for you. I 631 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: mentioned that Joe Manchin, West Virginia's Democrat senator, went on 632 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 3: the radio and said he's thinking about leaving the Democrat Party. 633 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: We discussed that with Ron Johnson. Of course, the big 634 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: question is who would he cauc us with, whether it's 635 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 3: a Republican or a Democrat, Because Kirsten Cinema has left 636 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party, but she continues to cauc us with them. 637 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: Here's Joe Manchin earlier today with West Virginia radio host 638 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: Hoppy Kerchival on talk line. Listen, you're not like the 639 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: Democrats today or the National Democratic Party, You're not like 640 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: the National Republican Party. 641 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: Why not just say, you know what, I'm going to 642 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 4: be an independent? You thought about that? 643 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 7: Absolutely? Absolutely? 644 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 6: Are you going to do it? 645 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 7: Because well, I'm thinking, seriously, what's the best of it 646 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 7: for me? I have to have peace of mind. Basically 647 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 7: the brand has become so bad, the d brand and 648 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 7: our brand. 649 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: So you're thinking seriously about becoming an independent? 650 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 7: I would think very seriously about that. I've been thinking 651 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 7: about that for quite some time. I haven't made any 652 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 7: decisions whatsoever on any of my political direction. I want 653 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 7: to make sure that my voice is truly an independent voice. 654 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 7: I'm speaking. I'm speaking of the good that the Republicans 655 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 7: do and the good the Democrats continue to do. 656 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: Interesting move there. 657 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: If he's truly going to run in West Virginia, I 658 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: would just say to West Virginians do you want Joe 659 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: Manchin caucusing with the Democrats. 660 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: If you do, you should vote for him. 661 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: If you don't, you need to put a Republican in 662 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: there and try to take back control of the Senate quickly. 663 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 4: Neil in Lakeland, Florida. What you got for us, gentlemen. 664 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 6: It's honored to be on your radio program. I've been 665 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 6: listening to Rush since early eighty nine, but my mom 666 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 6: told me and said turn the radio on, so I 667 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 6: continued to follow you guys, and I enjoy your show. 668 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 6: In fact, I also listened to Buffs podcast for quite 669 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 6: a while before y'all got together in to nover Rush. Anyway. 670 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 6: With regard to Governor the Santas and the state's attorneys, 671 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 6: but for everybody that's come from Florida to call them 672 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: district attorneys, probably we've got people those two in Hillsborough 673 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 6: County in Orange County that wisconslaws. They they're approached the 674 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 6: law enforcement with us. They would enforce the laws that 675 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 6: they liked and the ones they didn't they would disregard. 676 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 6: And that is an affront every law abiding citizen in 677 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 6: the state of Florida. And Governor de Santis recognized that, 678 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 6: so I think he did the right thing. 679 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for calling in telling us that again. 680 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: Tampa and Orlando new prosecutors. Big discussion on the Trump 681 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: situation tomorrow incredible guest. Trust us, you're gonna learn a lot. 682 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: We'll be with you Friday Edition tomorrow. Klee, Travis and 683 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth