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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. A lot of news to dive into,

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Speaker 1: and we will do that with all of you. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging out with us, being ready to look

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Speaker 1: at all things that are mattering on this lovely Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We can start with one here.

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Speaker 1: We have a we can put one on the board

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Speaker 1: for a Clay Travis prediction come true. He feels he's

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of the hot hand right now.

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Speaker 1: He's feeling feeling pretty smooth, feeling pretty on it. The

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals in New York has tossed tossed the

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Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars civil fraud fine by Age Tish James.

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Speaker 1: This is a breaking news today. And I will say

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Speaker 1: this is one where I was Clay called this very

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Speaker 1: early on and was he was vociferous, he was unwavering.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was possible, but not as confidence. So

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Speaker 1: I give the full predictive If both of us one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent agree on something it's not I give the

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Speaker 1: full predictive value.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 1: All points are worded to Clay on the prediction on

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Speaker 1: this one, because I thought it was kind of a

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty and he said, they're absolutely going to

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Speaker 1: toss it.

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Speaker 2: And now this is this is good.

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Speaker 1: The Appellate Division, First Department in New York Credit where

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Speaker 1: it's due, did the obviously right thing. This was completely

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Speaker 1: a completely insane case, obvious political headhunting. Attorney General of

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Speaker 1: New York State Tiss James was, it was awful what

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Speaker 1: she did.

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Speaker 2: It was disgraceful that she.

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Speaker 1: Ran promising to prosecute somebody or promising to find somebody,

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Speaker 1: you know, bring suit again civil suit in this case.

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Speaker 1: And that they that they said, Clay, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: things that came out in this case. They that Trump

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Speaker 1: valued mar A Lago at five hundred and seventeen million dollars,

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Speaker 1: and they said it was twenty seven million dollars in

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Speaker 1: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Anybody with even a passing.

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Speaker 1: The vaguest familiarity with the Palm Beach real estate market,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what house you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: on the water for twenty seven million dollars in Palm

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Speaker 1: Beach these days, Clay, it was the abuse of law

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Speaker 1: in the worst possible fashion. And maybe the look he's

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Speaker 1: president now, so maybe the appellate court decided they weren't

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Speaker 1: going to continue to poke the dragon.

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Speaker 2: But a good call by you, sir, take take a bow,

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 1: And a good moment actually for I know this sounds corny,

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Speaker 1: perhaps it's true, a good moment for law and order

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Speaker 1: in this country, for the rule of law.

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Speaker 2: In this country. Yeah, for people who have forgotten.

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Speaker 4: And I know there are so many different legal proceedings.

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Speaker 4: We've joked kind of about this, but I never would

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Speaker 4: have believed when I went to law school that I

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Speaker 4: would end up just analyzing Trump legal cases for what

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Speaker 4: feels like a career oftentimes, because Trump two point zero

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Speaker 4: has primarily been driven the resistance has by the judiciary,

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Speaker 4: by the legal branch, and it all started as a

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Speaker 4: part of the twenty twenty four elections. So this particular case,

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Speaker 4: and I know there are so many of them that

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Speaker 4: it is hard to keep up, was brought by Letitia

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Speaker 4: James alleging mortgage fraud. And I'm trying to simplify this

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Speaker 4: a little bit, And she said the mortgage fraud was

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Speaker 4: that Trump inflated the assets that were under his control

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Speaker 4: to obtain a lower rate of the mortgage than he

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Speaker 4: otherwise should have. But and this is why the case

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Speaker 4: was really outlandish from the start. He paid all the

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Speaker 4: loans back, so there was no actual victim here.

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Speaker 2: Even worse, even worse than that Clay.

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Speaker 1: He paid all the loans back with interest, and the

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Speaker 1: banks said they had no problem with this. They agreed

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Speaker 1: with his The banks did an independent assessment. They always do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is anyone who's gotten a mortgage knows

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Speaker 1: it is a giant pain in the butt. The banks

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Speaker 1: do their own assessment. They want their own person going there. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: the bank said they would be this was part of

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Speaker 4: Yes, so this was an incredibly strained legal theory to

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Speaker 4: begin with, because there was no victim, and so the

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Speaker 4: idea that Trump should have to pay back what five

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Speaker 4: over five hundred million dollars with interest. Now, she tried

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Speaker 4: been for the loans that Trump took out that he

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Speaker 4: were very comfortable in the deal they did, and then

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Speaker 4: argued that that was a fraud perpetrated that the state

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Speaker 4: of New York needed to investigate, bring civil criminal penalties,

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Speaker 4: civil penalties against and the New York Court of Appeals

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Speaker 4: just said this is garbage, and he there is where

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Speaker 4: I think we are headed. I think all these cases

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Speaker 4: are three. Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck, because sometimes

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Speaker 4: I get kind of lost in the weeds on some

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Speaker 4: of this too. There are three New York state trials

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Speaker 4: and or legal proceedings of significance. There's probably more than this.

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Speaker 4: One is this one that was just tossed out the

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Speaker 4: mortgage fraud. The other one was the Egene Carroll civil

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Speaker 4: suit relating to allegations of sexual assault. I think that's

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Speaker 4: going to be tossed. I've explained why. And then is

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Speaker 4: it thirty four felony counts over bookkeeping fraud? It was

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Speaker 4: thirty four, right, not forty three. I can't remember which

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Speaker 4: three of these are going to get tossed eventually. The

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Speaker 4: felonies obviously, is the only one that is criminal in nature,

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Speaker 4: and it is a sham case that is going to

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Speaker 4: be tossed on appeal the most likely if you had

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Speaker 4: me rank them to remain, if Trump were gonna lose

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Speaker 4: one of these, it would be the e Gene Carroll.

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Speaker 4: But I just at its baseline. Again, this goes into

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Speaker 4: the weeds. I don't understand how it's defamation to deny

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Speaker 4: that you raped someone. I mean, that seems that seems

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Speaker 4: like fair, fair for Trump to say, right.

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Speaker 1: This would mean this would mean that in any case,

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Speaker 1: by the way, your defense would make you lie, liable

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Speaker 1: for liable for the defense itself. Right, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: do this thing. Let's have a trial. Oh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: find you guilty. And by the way, because you said

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't understand how it's It is crazy.

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Speaker 4: And let me be even clearer on this, because this

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Speaker 4: we've seen a lawsuit over George Stephanopolos. Of this, Trump

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Speaker 4: was actually, in a civil context found not to have

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Speaker 4: committed rape. That is, the jury found it more likely

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Speaker 4: then said, this is where the additional lawsuit and additional

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Speaker 4: I just think that case is garbage. We're seeing the

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Speaker 4: Letitia James mortgage case is officially basically from the New

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Speaker 4: York Court of Appeals garbage. And I think all the

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Speaker 4: felony charges are gonna get tossed to Now. A lot

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Speaker 4: of you may say I don't even care Trump's in

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Speaker 4: office all these things. I do think the court's rulings

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Speaker 4: they went after Trump. If you happen to be a

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Speaker 4: you happen to be in a Democrat and run in

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Speaker 4: for civil and criminal liability just based on what you

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Trump stomped on law fair the same

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Speaker 1: things that I don't think many of us believed were

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Speaker 1: even possible years ago in both In both of those instances,

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Speaker 1: the fact that you had it was four criminal trials

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Speaker 1: all of that Clay essentially now. I know there's still

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Speaker 1: the New York case, but that one I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be there's gonna be no punishment

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Speaker 1: to emerge on scaths from all of this, yes, which

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Speaker 1: and the other guy just grins and keeps coming. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what Trump did. They did everything they could abuse

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Speaker 1: His base is more behind him than they've ever been.

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Speaker 1: If that's even possible, and what have they got Davin

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Speaker 1: Newsom trying to create cool guy memes of himself and

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Speaker 2: It's one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, whatever you think of Trump, I don't know

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Speaker 4: that we have ever seen someone take this degree of

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Speaker 4: you're gonna like this pop culture reference. It feels it's

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Speaker 4: like Trump is Neo and the Matrix Buck. It feels

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Speaker 4: The one thing I will say is I really admire

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Speaker 4: Trump because there were so many cowards who refuse to

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Speaker 4: kissing the ring. He's been the cover for a lot

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Speaker 4: were engaging in ridiculous insubordination that undercut the very fabric

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Speaker 4: much of American society better because they're using him as

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Speaker 4: the saying, well, you know, Trump won, we have to

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Speaker 4: And I just think the Trump story for decades to

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Speaker 4: many people out there are caught up in the political

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Speaker 4: And as that fades, I think Trump is going to

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Speaker 4: become an even more iconic figure than he is as

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Speaker 4: we speak about him on this day.

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Speaker 1: This is a man who, at no point during the

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Speaker 1: effort to destroy him, destroy his his legacy, his reputation,

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Speaker 1: take away his freedom, tried to bankrupt him. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's five hundred million, I think, plus some one hundred

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Speaker 1: million in interest. Now Trump has a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: but that hurts anybody cash, Okay, I've when was the

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Speaker 1: last time you heard him a fine for an individual

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Speaker 1: that big? I might add, I mean, how much money

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Speaker 2: It's a differential have been.

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Speaker 1: With the the bank loans, if they had even been hot,

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Speaker 1: There's no way it would bonkers buck. I mean they

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Speaker 1: Total victory, all caps in the fake New York State

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Speaker 1: The amount, including interest in penalties, was over five hundred

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Speaker 1: The statute of limitations is a very important I know

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Speaker 4: This is civil. So they didn't even attempt to charge

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Speaker 1: This is also to suggestion this is also to suggest

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Speaker 1: but the banks who have their own independence. Uh not inspection.

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Speaker 1: This is this is absurd, right, I mean, these are

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Speaker 1: And we paid that price and she says, great, I

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Speaker 1: So it was all it's all, it's all pretextual. But

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Speaker 1: the fact that this was even broad is madess. But

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Speaker 1: you know when you bring up the kribble versus seminal kribble, sorry,

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Speaker 1: criminal versus civil separation, remember it's a it's a fit

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Speaker 1: for everybody. It's a fifty fifty one percent standard, which

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Speaker 1: is so so hugely different the e. G.

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Speaker 2: And Carrol thing. The standard the jury has is do

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Speaker 2: you think it's like a fifty better than fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty shots?

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Speaker 1: This lady's telling the truth on again on the sexual

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Speaker 1: assault part, not actually on on rape. I think there

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Speaker 1: was a distinction that was made in that in that

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Speaker 1: case about it right, So essentially do you think it

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Speaker 1: do you think Trump might have grabbed or groped this woman?

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, that's different than did he actually forcibly

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Speaker 1: penetrate this woman, which I believe that was not what

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Speaker 1: he was found right, and that's where he went after Stephanopolis.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't even in the civil trial found to be

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Speaker 1: that they founded him did not. He did not do

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Speaker 1: him this civile trial. Yeah, but but do you think

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Speaker 1: that maybe he groped this lady in and the standard

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Speaker 1: in a criminal trial it would be, guys, are you

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Speaker 1: absolutely I mean, the real standard beyond a reasonable that

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Speaker 1: are you absolutely sure that Donald Trump grabbed this woman

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Speaker 1: thirty years ago and should possibly lose his freedom? That's

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Speaker 1: criminal civil it's hey, do you think he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: grabbing this lady?

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Speaker 2: We don't know, but like better than fifty to fifty,

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Speaker 2: huge difference.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why when they when they change the

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Speaker 1: rules and they use these civil things, they're just hoping

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Speaker 1: to get a jury that doesn't like Trump that goes, yeah, whatever,

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Speaker 1: screw him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They were trying to bankrupt him, and they were trying

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Speaker 4: to imprison him for life. They were trying to end

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Speaker 4: his political future. And now the shoe is on the

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Speaker 4: other foot. As Rump has said, in the first term,

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Speaker 4: he was the hunted. Now he's the hunter. And I

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Speaker 4: do think it's important to play back. Here is Leticia

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Speaker 4: James bragging in twenty twenty three, I'm going to come

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Speaker 4: back to all of you soon. With a check for

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty million dollars. Remember, they also tried

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Speaker 4: to ban him from doing business ever again in New York.

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Speaker 4: And my recollection is the Trump sons. The Trump sons

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Speaker 4: were banned from doing business in New York over this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was effectively an attempt to force Trump

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Speaker 4: out of New York. And honestly, when this all happened,

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Speaker 4: I remember we talked about it a lot on the show,

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Speaker 4: but I said, this is why I'm never leaving Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: This is I'm very comfortable living in my red state

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Speaker 4: at Tennessee. People that I'm not saying I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be perfect, but I don't have to worry about getting

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Speaker 4: attacked like this. This has cut twenty seven. Letitia James

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Speaker 4: bragging about taking Trump's money.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I will be honored. I walk into that courtroom

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Speaker 6: on October second. Well, my role is civil, and I

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Speaker 6: will come back before you soon with a check for

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Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty dollars and to let you know

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Speaker 6: that he is no longer allowed to do business in

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Speaker 6: the state of New York. Yeah, we got a We've

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Speaker 6: got a special charge to show up and stand up

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Speaker 6: for one another.

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Speaker 4: She's in trouble. She's in real trouble. If she weren't

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Speaker 4: in New York, she already would have lost her job.

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Speaker 4: And I know there's an investigation into her. Uh, but

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Speaker 4: with this New York Appeals Court decision, I think she's

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Speaker 4: in trouble. I haven't forgotten about Alvin Bragg. I know

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Speaker 4: Trump has not either. I know his DOJ is investigating

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Speaker 4: both of these individuals. Again, I think the felonies are

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Speaker 4: going to be tossed eventually on appeal in New York.

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Speaker 4: I think the timing on this is not coincidental. They

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Speaker 4: held this for a year, if I'm not mistaken to

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Speaker 4: wait till after the election to release this opinion. And again,

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Speaker 4: this is total vindication for Trump, but I think he

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Speaker 4: wants to take the next step and send a message

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Speaker 4: that total vindication for him is not I mean, he

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Speaker 4: still had to spend millions of dollars in legal fees.

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Speaker 4: He still had to tie up hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 4: I think he had to get a bond of one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollars or something to even appeal this.

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Speaker 4: I understand why he wants there to be consequences for

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Speaker 4: Letitia James and why he wants there to be consequences

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Speaker 4: for Alvin Bragg. One more cutbuck. This was Leticia James

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Speaker 4: before all this happened, going on the view and saying

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get Trump. Remember this is unprecedented. Cut

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Speaker 4: twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: You also intend to prosecute him after he is out

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Speaker 1: of office?

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Speaker 7: Correct? Our investigation currently is civil in nature, it is

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Speaker 7: not criminal. Yes, our civil suit will continue whether he's

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Speaker 7: president or not. And so after January twenty ath at

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Speaker 7: twelve o'clock, our investigation will continue. Joy he cannot pardon himself.

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Speaker 7: What he could do is step down and allow the

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Speaker 7: vice president, Vice President Pence to pardon him. Now, it's

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Speaker 7: important to understand he has pardoned from federal crimes, but

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Speaker 7: he has not pardoned from state crimes. Last year, I

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Speaker 7: introduced a bill in the state legislature which would close

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Speaker 7: the pardon loophole so that individuals such as the president

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Speaker 7: of the United States would not evade justice. It's important

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Speaker 7: that we have this check on presidential powers.

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Speaker 4: What there's so many things I would like to call

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Speaker 4: her that it would not be allowed on fcc UH broadcast.

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Speaker 4: But has she ever commented on Joe Biden's pardons.

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Speaker 1: No, she's a horror. She's a horrible person just based

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Speaker 1: on her actions. I mean what she did. Trump is

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Speaker 1: a father, he's a grandfather, He's an American, he's a patriot.

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Speaker 1: And the glee she has trying to he's a president

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Speaker 1: and former president, current president. Uh, the glee that she takes,

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Speaker 1: and the and the sense of pride she has and

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Speaker 1: trying to destroy somebody over what all this all this

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Speaker 1: flowery language she's using about you know, no one's above

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Speaker 1: the law and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what's the law that he broke?

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Speaker 1: Well, what's the what's the bad thing that he did

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Speaker 1: that we need to punish the law that he broke

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Speaker 1: as being Trump and taking the fight to the left

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Speaker 1: and making Democrats sad at election time.

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Speaker 2: That's the law that he.

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Speaker 4: Broke, and honestly having the misfortune to have done it

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Speaker 4: all while having many of his businesses registered in New York,

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Speaker 4: which I think the ultimate consequence of all of this

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Speaker 4: is a lot of people said, I'm not willing to

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Speaker 4: have my businesses based on in New York where I

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Speaker 4: can be prosecuted if my politics don't end up aligning

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Speaker 4: with whoever is in power there. I think Elon Musk

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Speaker 4: saw this. I think it's why he's moved so much

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Speaker 4: of his assets to Texas. It's why I'm never leaving Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Imagine it's one reason you're happy to be in Florida.

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Speaker 4: But I think a lot of people out there with

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Speaker 4: New York assets have made that decision. Look, I told

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Speaker 4: you about my trip to Legacy Box headquarters Chattanooga, Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: my mom's hometown. What a cool experience it was. It

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Speaker 4: was like being in a time capsule because they can

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Speaker 4: take all of your media eight millimeter films, VHS tapes,

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Speaker 4: old photographs, and they can digitize them. And they have

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Speaker 4: different parts of their huge facility there in Chattanooga where

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Speaker 4: they are digitizing so many of these different so many

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Speaker 4: of these different products. In fact, I was talking with

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Speaker 4: Ad I'm one of the co founders there, and he said, look,

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Speaker 4: we basically are on eBay buying VHS, VCR VCRs all

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Speaker 4: the time. And he said, we got techs who can

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Speaker 4: put these things back working together because they're not making

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Speaker 4: more VCRs and we want to make sure that we

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Speaker 4: now before the holidays start, you can get fifty percent

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Speaker 4: off your order. You get the originals back. It's very

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Speaker 4: easy to use. Go to legacybox dot com slash Clay

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Speaker 4: fifty percent off your order. That's legacybox dot com slash

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Speaker 4: Clay one more time. Legacy box dot com slash Clay.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 5: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang.

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Speaker 2: Join Clay and Buck as they lap it up in the.

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Speaker 8: Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or

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Speaker 8: wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Some news out there, as we discussed in the first hour,

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Speaker 4: Trump with a big legal win New York Appeals Court

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Speaker 4: tosses his five hundred million dollar mortgage fraud civil penalty

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Speaker 4: verdicts from.

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Speaker 2: Attorney General Letitia James.

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Speaker 4: Trump has reacted as you would imagine that Trump has reacted.

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Speaker 4: We've got news that Trump now says, we'll have some

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Speaker 4: fun with this, probably in the third hour. First of all,

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Speaker 4: DC crime has basically collapsed. Carjackings down eighty three percent,

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Speaker 4: robberies down by half in the nine some odd days

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Speaker 4: since Trump deployed the National Guard and additional resources to

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Speaker 4: help drive down crime. As we are speaking. I believe

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Speaker 4: it has now been you jinx this thing because inevitably

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Speaker 4: it's going to end. But it has been over a

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Speaker 4: week since there was a murder in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: They have searched the record books and they cannot find

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Speaker 4: a summer which is when murder typically peaks. Kids are

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Speaker 4: out of school, there's way more people out and about

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Speaker 4: in the streets. It's usually that time when murders are

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Speaker 4: peaking all over the country. They have not found a

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Speaker 4: summer stretch like this in decades, going back to try

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Speaker 4: to find a period of time where there has been

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Speaker 4: no murders occurring. So we're going to get into this

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Speaker 4: maybe in the third hour, but let's first. We're going

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Speaker 4: to get to cracker Barrel momentarily here. But I tease this.

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Speaker 4: As we went to break yesterday, as many of you know,

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Speaker 4: producer Greg dropped the ball. He said, we like to

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Speaker 4: end hours and we certainly like to end the show

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Speaker 4: if you haven't noticed on an uplifting idea, and producer

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Speaker 4: Greg said, hit this talk back and immediately it was

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Speaker 4: a guy talking about working on the suicide hotline and

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Speaker 4: trying to get people to not kill themselves and everybody

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Speaker 4: was just like, well, thanks, producer Greg, We're just going

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Speaker 4: off into the rest of the day in an awful spirit.

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair that the gentleman was saying that

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Speaker 1: people who have cats, when they are in a very

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Speaker 1: bad way mentally, sometimes what is able to get them

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Speaker 1: through that when they call this suicide helpline is well,

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Speaker 1: I need to take care of my cat.

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Speaker 4: All That's very fine, but suicide helpline stories should not

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Speaker 4: be the one that we end the show.

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Speaker 2: We did not get fair warning.

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Speaker 1: We thought people, we thought cat lads were going to

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Speaker 1: be coming at you and making fun of you, and

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Speaker 1: instead it was like a very earnest and serious talkback.

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Speaker 4: That's because I suggested that MSNBC, instead of rebranding as

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Speaker 4: ms NOW, should should rebrand as Menopause, the Menopause Network,

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Speaker 4: and that they should spell the pause paws with a

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Speaker 4: cat paw to reach out to all of their childless

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Speaker 4: cat ladies that are the base of the MSNBC viewing audience.

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Speaker 4: But producer Greg, after throwing the show off the rails,

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Speaker 4: recorded his own talkback We have not heard this.

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Speaker 2: To apologize to everyone here, it is Hey guys, it's

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Speaker 2: producer Greg.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, sorry, I kind of led you down the path

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Speaker 9: there on that last talkback yesterday. It was a little grim,

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Speaker 9: but I thought it was an interesting point, especially as

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Speaker 9: someone who owns three cats myself, that women won't kill

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Speaker 9: themselves because they have to feed their cats. Anyway, Sorry

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Speaker 9: about that meow Copa.

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Speaker 2: I like, though, Copa is pretty good. I'll give a

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Speaker 2: high to Greg on that one.

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Speaker 4: He also though even there, he's trying to be like

656
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: have it both ways, Like, hey cat people, I've got

657
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: three cats too. I think there may be a revolution

658
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: brewing among the cat fanatics out there. But thanks to

659
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: producer Greg So, that leads into so hopefully all of

660
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 4: you are still alive. That leads into Cracker Barrel, which

661
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: is dead because they have decided that they need to

662
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 4: rebrand themselves. So I have eaten at Cracker Barrel a lot.

663
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: During the commercial break, my mom texted me and said,

664
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: your dad and I used to eat at the very

665
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: first Cracker Barrel in Lennon. Lennon, Tennessee spelled like Lebanon

666
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 4: used to stop there going to Tennessee football games.

667
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: The Southerners are not going to be happy about this.

668
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Speaker 4: So I don't know what percentage of our audience has

669
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: ever eaten at a cracker barrel. I have eaten at

670
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: many different cracker barrels over the years. The way that

671
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: I would describe cracker barrel is it's basically what your

672
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: grandma cooked if you grew up in the South.

673
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: That is this where I would get to say, as

674
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: a Yankee, my first introduction to country fried steak, perhaps.

675
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 4: That would be that would be on the That would

676
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: be a very bit. They fry a lot of things

677
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: at cracker barrel as your grandma in the South would

678
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: have fried everything. They have great biscuits and gravy they have.

679
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: I mean, again the way that I was, how are

680
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: they for the gluten free community clay Probably not great?

681
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: Probably not great, That's what I was thinking. I don't

682
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: think gluten free New Yorkers are not the base of

683
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Speaker 4: the cracker barrel food pyramid.

684
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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say they have. I feel judged.

685
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: They have a.

686
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: Country store which has all sorts of things that your

687
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: grandma would like to buy. I think that's probably a

688
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: fair way to this. I'm looking at the menu now.

689
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: A lot of the food is beige.

690
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: What does that mean? The color? It's just like looking

691
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: at the menu.

692
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: They have all the pictures of the food, and it's

693
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: just like variations of beige.

694
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean it is like.

695
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: Bread things, bread things that are deep fried in bread

696
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: things put between pieces of bread, and French fries.

697
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: Yes, like they have corn bread with everything, they have

698
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: rolls with everything.

699
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: The bread is very much of a Southern staple.

700
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 4: So it basically is whatever was super popular to eat

701
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: in the South in the forties, the fifties, the sixties,

702
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: the seventies. I think it's probably fair to say this

703
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: is that writ large.

704
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: Now.

705
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Speaker 4: I think the Cracker barrels basically in all fifty states.

706
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: They're based here in Nashville. They decided buck that they

707
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: needed to rebrand to get hipper, to get fresher. Now,

708
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: of all the restaurant chains out there, I can't think

709
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: of a less hip and a less forward thinking. And

710
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: I actually think that's the strength of the brand. In

711
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: other words, the nostalgia is what makes Cracker Barrel exist

712
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: as a brand. If you want to go to a

713
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: hip restaurant, you are not going to go to Cracker Barrel.

714
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: That's that's not their brand. So they rebranded. They took

715
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: the old Grandfather off of their logo, sitting by the

716
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: Cracker Barrel and they now just have the words Cracker

717
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 4: Barrel written there the stock. This is crazy. The stock

718
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: today has dropped eight dollars a share. They have taken

719
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars off of the market cap. Do

720
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: we have the audio of the cackling Rachel Maddow looking

721
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: new CEO of Cracker Barrel. It's as if she is

722
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: a terrorist try to destroy the existing track, Like if

723
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: you created a biscuit she's a biscuit terrorist.

724
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Speaker 7: Clean.

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00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: If you created a movie villain to destroy a Southern

726
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: restaurant chain, it would look exactly like this woman looks.

727
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: Do we have the audio of this woman?

728
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: I think she was on Good Morning America talking about

729
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: how everyone loved the real don't have any We will.

730
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: Have it in the next second, so I'll introduce it.

731
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: So this is uh, this is just to me.

732
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Speaker 4: Maybe this would have flown a decade ago, but Cracker

733
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 4: Barrel seems to me to have completely bud lighted themselves.

734
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 4: And I think they're gonna have to fire this CEO.

735
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna have to acknowledge what I just

736
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: told you, which is Cracker Barrel is a nostalgic place

737
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: designed to evoke fond memories of people who used to

738
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: eat Southern meals like this in the past, and is

739
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: not ever going to be something different than it is,

740
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 4: and in fact should lean even more into the brand

741
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: that it is created as a posed to trying to be.

742
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, like an orange and brown version of Applebee's.

743
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: No no shame this Applebee's out there.

744
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: It is.

745
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Speaker 1: It is impressively calorically dense in some cases here the

746
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: hash brown casserole Shepherd's pie comes in and a lean

747
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred calories.

748
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: So it is not a like for you go to

749
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: lose weight. You do not go to Cracker Barrel to

750
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: lose weight. And can I honest question cracker Barrel versus

751
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: Olive Garden? Which one is? Which one do you think

752
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: has better food? Because I have not been to the

753
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 4: Cracker Barrel. I am an I'm an expert on chain

754
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: restaurants because I have eaten at them all often frequently.

755
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 4: I think it just depends on what kind of food

756
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: you want. I mean, olive Garden I think is pretty

757
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: good Italian food in a chain setting, just like I think.

758
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: And people are gonna get all fired up at me.

759
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: They're even gonna agree. Like I think chain restaurants in

760
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: general do a pretty good job. Like is is outback steakhouse?

761
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: What an actual Australian steakhouse looks like?

762
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 5: No?

763
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, but you know that you know that Foster's

764
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: Australian beer I believe is well. First of all, it's

765
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Speaker 1: not I don't know if it's sold in Australia. Probably is,

766
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: but I think it's like bottled in New Jersey or something.

767
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, I'll get.

768
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: Do it well.

769
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Speaker 4: But by the way, this goes both ways because they

770
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: sell Budweiser as a premium brand in Australia, right, So

771
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: like Budweiser is, I don't know that it's what is

772
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: the most premium brand?

773
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

774
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: Fort Worth, Texas is the primary brewing location for Foster's.

775
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: You can't find a Foster's. But guess what.

776
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 4: The bloomin Onion maybe the greatest chain restaurant dish ever created.

777
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: I'll throw it out there. It's unbelievable.

778
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: If you don't like a Bloomin Onion, I would submit

779
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: to you your taste buds probably don't work.

780
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: I think that was the most calorically dense single menu

781
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: item across all American restaurants at one point in time,

782
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: the Bloomin onion I think it was something like almost

783
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: three thousand calories if you ate one of those.

784
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: So I would hope it tastes good.

785
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: It is amazing, And so I think what's happening here

786
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: is I just said this on Fox News right before

787
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 4: we came on the air Aisha Hasny, who used to

788
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: live in your building in New York City. To tie

789
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: everything together, she was hosting for Harris Faulkner. I really

790
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: think that all of these companies need a director of

791
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: common sense, and that is someone that actually consumes the

792
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: product and says, hey, is this something that the base

793
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: that actually made this company exist is going to support?

794
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: If you had that bud light never happens with Sidney

795
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: with Dylan mulvaney. They should go with Sidney Sweeney the

796
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: Cracker Barrel new logo and the remake does not happen

797
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 4: like this. You would not have Nike lighting its brand

798
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: on fire with Colin Kaepernick back in the day. The

799
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 4: NBA wouldn't decide to put political slogans on the back

800
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: of jerseys and Black Lives Matter on the court again,

801
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: just basic common sense. These companies. And this is me

802
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: getting on a soapbox because it fires me up so much.

803
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: These companies employ people who have never ever been fans

804
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: of the company that they're leading, and they decide that

805
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: they should make a choice without understanding the base of

806
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: the company at all.

807
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Speaker 1: You can't You can't run a kitchen if you don't

808
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: know what your food tastes like. You can't be a

809
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: good chef if you're not putting that wooden spoon up

810
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: to your mouth and knowing what's going on. You got

811
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: to eat your own cooking, whether it's radio or it's

812
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: running a restaurant or whatever. You got to know the

813
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: product you're putting out there.

814
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: Look, if you didn't have a Southern grandma, you probably

815
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: shouldn't be the CEO of Cracker Barrel because if you

816
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: had a Southern grandma, you would recognize the menu and

817
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: you would know exactly what the business is. They're trying

818
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: to evoke the idea of walking into your grandma's kitchen, right,

819
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: can I say grandma home cooked meals?

820
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: Caller Steve in San Antonio, Texas wants to weigh in

821
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: on this one, and I think we should let him

822
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: because he has a different perspective on the Cracker Barrel.

823
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: What's going on, Steve, good morning, Thank you.

824
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Speaker 10: I'm in San Antonio. Cracker Burrel's been here a long time,

825
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 10: long long time. So I've eaten there, you know, now

826
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 10: and again for a long long time. And in recent

827
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 10: years their product took a turn for the worst. You know.

828
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 10: I don't know why or exactly what the particulars of

829
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 10: that were, but I had pretty much stopped going there,

830
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 10: and then I saw something that they've changed their menu

831
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 10: out forget exactly how they said it, so I wasn't

832
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 10: checked it out, and yeah, it really did look different,

833
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 10: and I saw food coming out that looked different. So

834
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 10: I tried it and they improved it like five hundred

835
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 10: percent from where it had dropped. Tom, and thank.

836
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: You for calling in as a Cracker Barrel employee to

837
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: tell us whatuch you thing the.

838
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: The stock clay dismissive, dismissive of our esteemed callers taste.

839
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: Buds, Sir.

840
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't I don't buy that this guy happens to

841
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: call in and give the exact corporate line that the CEO,

842
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: good morning.

843
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Have a plant in this in the audience.

844
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, when you call in

845
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: with the exact talking points of the corporation, I just

846
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: question whether you are giving your true opinion. Maybe I'm wrong,

847
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he just happens to have the exact talking points.

848
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: We'll play it for you that the CEO gave this

849
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: morning on Good Morning America. I just think it's awful.

850
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 4: I'm skeptical.

851
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: You come for the cracker barrel. You best not miss

852
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking about, mister Clay Travis cracker barrel,

853
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: you better know what you're doing.

854
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: With the odds.

855
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 4: What are the odds that somebody calls in and sounds

856
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 4: exactly like what the CEO would want them to sound like.

857
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: And maybe the New Country Fried Steak is just Look,

858
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: I have no dog in this fight.

859
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: I've never even been to this place. I don't even

860
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: think I've seen one before.

861
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: This is not a thing we have in Yankee Town

862
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: in the Northeast, Okay, I don't think there are any

863
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: cracker guys.

864
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: Are there cracker barrels up in the Northeast.

865
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Speaker 4: I would bet they have a cracker barrel somewhere in

866
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 4: rural New York.

867
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Speaker 2: I would bet.

868
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Speaker 4: It's a good question how many different states are these in.

869
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: I would bet the majority of this audience has been

870
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: to a cracker barrel before.

871
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 2: Wow, there are cracker barrels in New York near major highways. Yeah,

872
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: not in New York.

873
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Speaker 4: Didn't expect this, but just saw his tweet. Probably the

904
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Speaker 4: man who is going to be the next governor at

905
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Speaker 4: the Great State of Florida, Byron Donald's used to work

906
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: at Cracker Barrel. And I'm gonna let you tell the

907
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: story to everybody. I appreciate you calling in. So you

908
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: come down to the South from New York and you

909
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: got a job at Cracker Barrel.

910
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's gonna be with you. I worked at Cracker

911
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: Barrel in Tallahassee when I was going to college. I

912
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: was a waiter. I actually was able to become a

913
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: three star waiter, and so that's how high I rose

914
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: in the ranks. Man, I was a three star. I

915
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: basically did everything in that store at the one in Tallahassee,

916
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: and then when I moved to Naples, I transferred to

917
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: the one down the Naples. It's on I seventy five

918
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: things at one on one. I worked there for about

919
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: four or five months in Naples before I got my

920
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: first job at.

921
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: The Naples Cracker Barrel.

922
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: Congressman, did they just did they have the butler slip

923
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: you like one hundred dollars bills? You know that's a

924
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: very high high rent area.

925
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: Listen, even at the Naples Cracker Barrel, it's about biscuits

926
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: and hash brown castle role, That's what it's about. They

927
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: nobody slipping hundreds in there.

928
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: I thought that, So, what do you think about the rebrand?

929
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 4: So this is actually a brand? I was, It's funny

930
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: your world and Cracker Barrel collides. I used to work

931
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: an American eagle back when I was a teenager. So

932
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: the whole Sydney sweet thing. I felt like that whole

933
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: controversy was designed for me. When you saw that they're

934
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 4: rebranding and changing the logo and everything else, what's your reaction.

935
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: I hate it. I don't even understand why it needed

936
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: a rebrand. Cracker Barrel is a staple of you know,

937
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: of the country. Everybody comes in there to eat. It

938
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 3: doesn't matter who you are. You've come in there, You've

939
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: had your your pancakes and your scrambled eggs and bacon.

940
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: You made sure you got your biscuits. You might have

941
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: tried the chicken, the country Fried steak, or the chicken

942
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: fried chicken. Look, I'm going through the menu, and it's

943
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: been more than twenty five years since I worked there,

944
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: But I will tell you it's it's a staple. So

945
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: I don't even know why we needed this rebrand. Some

946
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: things just are what they are. That's Cracker Barrel, Old

947
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: Country Store. I don't even know why they've removed that

948
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: out of the name. And then and even in the

949
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: inside it it looks like what they did is they

950
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: tried to have it become like a photo photo shoot

951
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: for like better homes and gardens. I don't even know

952
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: what that place looks like it doesn't look like anything.

953
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: That is what cracker barrel? What made cracker barrel a

954
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: real staple in the United States?

955
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: Congressman, If I know I am, I'm sorry to say

956
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: I have never never been to a cracker barrel.

957
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: Establishment is clearly.

958
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 4: Bug is from You're from New York too, I could.

959
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me, like I grew up going to

960
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 4: these things all over the country. But I mean described

961
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: cracker Barrel food to Buck as someone who's live I

962
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: was gonna.

963
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: Say, I mean, this is a gentleman.

964
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: This is a gentleman who both appreciates the menu and

965
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: had to help people navigate it for many years, a

966
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: long time ago, Congressman, as a first time or if

967
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: I walked in there, what is like the best of

968
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: Cracker Burro? Like, what would I forget about my dietary restrictions?

969
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: We'll leave that aside.

970
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 3: Let me help you. If you're coming in for breakfast,

971
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: you have to get the old timers breakfast, very simple, straightforward.

972
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: A couple of scrambled eggs, some bacon, some sausage. They

973
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: don't really do link sausage too much. Most of it's

974
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: patty sausage. You could get biscuits. You might get toast

975
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: if you ask for it, but you really just want

976
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: the biscuits. If you really want to get into it,

977
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: get the French toast. The French toast is some of

978
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: the best I've ever had, whether I was serving it

979
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: or I'm eating French toasts somewhere else. That's really good stuff.

980
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: If you're coming in for dinner, you can't go wrong

981
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: with the catfish bilets. They're awesome. Fried oak grilled, it's

982
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: gonna be great. If you love fried oakra you can

983
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: get that. Green beans are always there. Macaroni and cheese

984
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: is always on point and real quick. For the people

985
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 3: who love biscuits, you gotta have their sausage gravy. I

986
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: was never a sausage gravy guy, but a lot of

987
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: people like it. It's iconic. Man. It is great food

988
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 3: no matter what you eat. So there, I'm telling you,

989
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: when you travel the country, go to Cracker Barrel. Maybe

990
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: not this new version. I find one of the old

991
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: ones that we're still designed the old way because the

992
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: food is fantastic.

993
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: Why do you think this happens? Like you are running

994
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: for governor of Florida, You're in Congress. Now you have

995
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: to talk to people from all different backgrounds, all over

996
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: the state of Florida, all over the country. And as

997
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: you just said, most people understand cracker barrel. It's like

998
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: old Southern cooking. You know what you're gonna get. Everybody's

999
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: grandma cooked like that if you're in the South at all,

1000
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 4: and it has kind of that down home nostalgic feel.

1001
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: Why is there such an and look, you can connect

1002
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: us with bud Light. I think you can connect it

1003
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 4: with lots of things. Why do we let people who

1004
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 4: never consume the product go out and try to change

1005
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 4: a brand like this?

1006
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: It seems to happen everywhere.

1007
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think you sometimes will get a

1008
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: new CEO who thinks they have to rethink everything to

1009
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: prove their worth. What you really need to do as

1010
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 3: a chief executive is just make sure that the brand

1011
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: is earning money, make sure that the operations are sound,

1012
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 3: make sure the employees are getting the support that they need,

1013
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: and then you know, no pun intended, but just let

1014
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: the place cook because if it's cooking good food, people

1015
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 3: will continue to come. So these rebrands, I think sometimes

1016
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: you'll have an executive who think they have to leave

1017
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: their mark, and that's really not what you need to

1018
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: be doing. You need to make it be making sure

1019
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: that everybody's making money. The earning for shares continue to

1020
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: look good. I don't know how much they're spending on

1021
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: this rebrand. Just looking at how some of the responses

1022
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: have been, like mine and a lot of other responses,

1023
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: it's not going well, you know, so that's probably going

1024
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: to cost shareholders money. It's pretty unfortunate.

1025
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Okay, shifting gears here.

1026
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: We got college football kicking off in Ireland this weekend

1027
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: and other places, and then next weekend. I was actually

1028
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: going to tell you about this. Now I got you

1029
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: on the show, I'll just tell you. I am going

1030
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: to Alabama Florida State. I have never been to FSU

1031
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: for a game. For those of you who don't know,

1032
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: Big Saturday in Tallahassee. When will you be at the game?

1033
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: Two? What should I know and or go see? At

1034
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: Florida State.

1035
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to take a couple of my

1036
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: kids for that game on opening weekend to college football.

1037
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: Number One, I won't be in Tallahassee. I wish I was.

1038
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: I was already scheduled to be in another part of

1039
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: Florida doing an event. So I'm sad I'm miss the Knowles,

1040
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: but you know, I'm looking forward to seeing how we

1041
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 3: start this season. Two, make sure you take your kids

1042
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: to the Unconquered Statue at the stadium. It's an iconic

1043
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: statue right in front of Doe Campbell it trust me,

1044
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 3: it's nothing like it. Three and I'm pulling from my knowles.

1045
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: I think we're going to rebound from last season. So

1046
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: when that Tomahawk chop comes out, let your kids do

1047
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: the tamahawk chop. Let them be a part of it.

1048
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: It's iconic and college football out.

1049
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: I want to throw this. I just want to throw

1050
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: this out there.

1051
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: I was looking at looking this up and hatsip our

1052
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: friend Sean Davis, Congressman. This may go a little bit

1053
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: to what happened with Cracker Barrel. Bring us back around

1054
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: here for a second. The cracker Barrel chain. This is

1055
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: the New York Times Cracker Barrel chain, evoking Southern style

1056
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: home cooking and hospitality long scene as a white coated

1057
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: establishment that aligned with conservative social norms.

1058
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay, you see.

1059
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: This is what I mean. You get some new CEO

1060
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: who thinks it's time to do something different. Now they're

1061
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: concerned that too many conservatives eat at Cracker Barrel. I

1062
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: got a news flash for this lady. I'm assuming it's

1063
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: a lady. Now, that's that's the news.

1064
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: No, it's definitely it's a lady who looks like it

1065
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: looks like she's feeding her five cats while she's watching MS.

1066
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: Now.

1067
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: Yes, oh boy, all right, newsflash for her. This is

1068
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: how you lose customers because go look at your customer base.

1069
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: They're just regular people. They go and eat good breakfast.

1070
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: A lot of repeats from people who live in the

1071
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: community who swear by Cracker Barrel and now they're going

1072
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: to go somewhere else. I mean, this is how you

1073
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: end up losing your company. This is These are the

1074
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: dumb decisions where people who think they're smarter than everybody else.

1075
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: What you should do is go be undercover boss and

1076
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: go travel the country before you do these remodels and

1077
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: to see how people are in these restaurants. I worked

1078
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 3: in a Cracker Barrel for almost four years. Everybody was great.

1079
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: I never felt, you know, I'm a black man. I

1080
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: never felt like, oh, somebody was trying to hold me

1081
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: down because I was serving biscuits in the morning.

1082
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: Great.

1083
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: It sounds to me, Congressman, like you disagree with the

1084
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: New York The New York Times describes it as a

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Speaker 1: quote cracker barrel as quote a lightning rod for identity politics.

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Speaker 3: It's the New York Times. Of course I disagree with them.

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Speaker 3: They're stupid. They don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're all sure.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I do think this is important. You

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Speaker 4: worked as a waiter there, and you said this earlier.

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Speaker 4: People from all different backgrounds come in, and it sounds

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Speaker 4: like you had a really good experience with the patrons

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Speaker 4: and the overall environment of the place when you worked are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but what percentage of patrons would you say

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Speaker 1: if you had to just put a percentage on it,

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Speaker 1: We're just we're friendly and polite folks who were there

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Speaker 1: to have a nice meal, either alone or with their

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Speaker 1: friends or family. Like, what would you what would you

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Speaker 1: put that number at? Roughly and your four years of

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Speaker 1: working there, I'm just curious.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's like ninety eight percent. Ninety probably a good number.

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Speaker 3: You know, every now and again somebody might get a

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Speaker 3: little rowdy if they didn't get their biscuits well.

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Speaker 2: That's true of any that's true of any restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Right, But yeah, yeah, ninety percent. Everybody was good. They

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Speaker 3: just they just want to come in and eat good food.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's about, all right, Congressman, anything else you

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Speaker 1: want to announce while we're here, while we got you,

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Speaker 1: and you're already running for governor. Right, I'm a Floridian,

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Speaker 1: So can you keep this place? Can you just promise

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Speaker 1: you'll keep this place awesome when you're governor?

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Speaker 3: What I what I'll tell you is in Florida, we're

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Speaker 3: going to continue to be the free state of Florida.

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Speaker 3: That will not change. Everything is going great. Proud and

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Speaker 3: honored to have President Trump's endorsement, Rick Scott's endorsement, most

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Speaker 3: of the congressional delegation. We're just going to take our

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Speaker 3: state to a whole nother level, but it will continue

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Speaker 3: to be the free state of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, sir. We'll talk to you again soon, especially

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Speaker 1: as that gets closer. Right, thanks for making the time

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Speaker 1: for us today, Congress and Donald's.

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Speaker 3: All right, take it of guys.

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Speaker 2: See Clay, you never know, you don't have to look

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Speaker 2: that long. You figure figure it out. The CEO came in.

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Speaker 1: It's because there's this there's a perception among people. This

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Speaker 1: is what I think we've unearthed here, and I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: kind of from the outsider perspective, there's a perception among

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Speaker 1: coastal elites that cracker.

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Speaker 2: Barrel is coded as old.

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Speaker 1: White and Southern, and therefore, inherently, even though it's just

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Speaker 1: selling biscuits and pancakes and things to whomever goes through

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Speaker 1: the door and people seem to love the place, inherently problematic.

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Speaker 1: There's something problematic about the perception, which is not even

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Speaker 1: rooted in anything of it's for it's old white and Southern.

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Speaker 4: Well what I would say, And I am not an

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Speaker 4: expert in cuisine, clearly, but in my experience, white and

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Speaker 4: black people in the South eat very very similar foods.

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Speaker 4: So I've never met anybody of any race in the

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Speaker 4: South who was like, you know what, I'm not really

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Speaker 4: a biscuit guy, you know what, I'm not really I'm

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Speaker 4: not really into fried catfish, you know what. I'm not

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Speaker 4: really into cobblers and pecan pies and all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: I just I see people eating very similar foods. I've

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Speaker 4: been into cracker barrels all over the Southeast, and my

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Speaker 4: experience would reflect what Congress McDonald's just said, which is

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Speaker 4: most of the people there are just good old fashioned people. Now,

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Speaker 4: would it surprise me if Cracker Barrel, to your point

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Speaker 4: to the New York Times codes, because it's a Southern

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Speaker 4: based company, as more likely to be eaten in by

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Speaker 4: a Trump voter than I don't know, I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what the equivalent restaurant of liberals

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Speaker 4: would be. Yeah, I would think that. But it's all

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Speaker 4: over the South. I mean, so this is what people

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Speaker 4: have picked up on the South.

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Speaker 2: This is what they picked up on.

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Speaker 1: Is that to quote modernize it or to update it

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Speaker 1: is to desuthernize it.

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Speaker 2: But that's my issue with it. It is the South.

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Speaker 1: It's like, but this is But that's the point. It's

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Speaker 1: everyone's issue with it. That's why there's five hundred thousand tweets.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And this is where I also think you. I think

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Speaker 4: it's very similar to bud light. You take somebody from

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Speaker 4: New York or LA who would never drink a bud

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Speaker 4: light and they say, you know what we should do.

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Speaker 4: We should have trans influencers. Was there any trans person

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Speaker 4: who was not drinking bud light because bud light wasn't

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Speaker 4: trans enough. Of course, not the reason people go to

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Speaker 4: Cracker Barrel is to get a good home cooked, old

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Speaker 4: school style Southern meal that your black grandma or your

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Speaker 4: black or your white grandma might have made for you

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Speaker 4: back in the day, and as some grandmas to this

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Speaker 4: day continue to cook. And so when you're trying to

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Speaker 4: take away that which made people go to it in

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Speaker 4: the first place, again, I don't understand the marketplace for

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Speaker 4: Cracker Barrel is not to be Applebee's. And that's not

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Speaker 4: a shot at Applebee's, but Applebee's is like the most uh,

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Speaker 4: we'll probably just got a big deal we're about to

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Speaker 4: do with Applebe's and they're like this is done forever.

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Speaker 4: But I would say like Applebee's is the most generic

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Speaker 4: Americana style food out there. Like what does Applebee's stand for?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Right, It's like kind of this is generic. This

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Speaker 2: is generic.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Applebee's just caught it

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Speaker 1: out out there. I'm trying to take Applebee's out. But

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Speaker 1: like Chili's, you would be like, hey, Chili's is Mexican

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Speaker 1: style food. Olive Garden, you'd be like Olive Garden is

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Speaker 1: Italian style food.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 4: Outback is Australian steak Steakhouse South Texas Roadhouse.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it those is out back Australian I get.

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Speaker 4: I know it's not at all like that, but you

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Speaker 4: understand the branding concept. The entire branding of Cracker Barrel

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Speaker 4: is Southern style food. There is no competitor for that.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of competitor for Applebee's. It's not a

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