1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. If you want to go on a time 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: travel and you own a repair shop, I challenge you 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: to clean out your back room because the things you're 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna find are absolutely staggering. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm listening. 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor and he still has no drive. Right, 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: it's reverse golden birth. Okay, then it's got an internal 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: transmission problem and it's teared down to inspect. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: The phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at A 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: five five. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: Hundred and now hes running Sometimes Mondays just just don't 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: start off like you expect them to. 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: And that's all part of the process, right, That's all 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: part of order repair. That's what it's all about. We 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: had this and you can't make it up, you know 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: it just and you look at it and you say, 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: what are the odds? Right? We had this well, like 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to work on Monday morning, I'll start the 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: story there. And it was supposed to be a pretty simple, 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: straightforward kind of day, as much as Mondays can be. 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: And I noticed when I got to the shop about 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, three four car lengths away 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: from the driveway of the shop, there's this Honday parked 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: on the side of the road with the hood up, 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: and I'm don't know, look somebody broke down. At least 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: they're in the right spot. And I pulled in and 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I got into the office. You know, Bob was there. 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Hea the office opened up and him and Danny were yacking, 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I said, hey, does anybody know anything 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: about the Honday And they said, oh, yeah, that's the 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: customer who's dropping off. And then I remembered, right, we 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: had a we had a Honday that was supposed to 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: drop off that, you know, this morning that morning, and 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm like, why is it on 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: the street. So I, you know, we went out there 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and I told Danny, I said, you know, is the 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: key somewhere? We couldn't find the key. The key wasn't 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: in the dropbox, it was nowhere to be found. It 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: was in the ignition. I said, well, that's kind of weird. 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: You know. We verified it by license plate. We had 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: never seen the car before. First time customer. We had 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: never seen the car before, verified the plate, looked in 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the glove box, found the registration. Yeah, that's it's his car, 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: as per the information he gave us. But why is 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: it here? You know, are we supposed to? Okay, here 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: it is. I even opened the hood for you so 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: you could fix it. I'm not sure what he was thinking, Like, 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, I understand making it easier for us, but 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is a little crazy. So I I 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: texted him, I called him, and as I'm doing all that, 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Sean happens to pull up. What happened, well, he said, 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: I you know, I had my wife follow me over here. 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: And what did he say? Oh, yeah, his wife followed 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: him over here. And then he was going to take 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: his wife's car home after he dropped her off at 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: the train because the train's a block in the other direction, 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: so they left the Hyundai where he parked it. For 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: some reason, he didn't want to park it in the 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: driveway of the shop. He was trying to be considered, 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I think for space, but there was plenty of space. 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I never got that part of the conversation, and he 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: jumped into his wife's car, drove her the block away 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: to the train station, came back in his Honda or 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: whatever it was, pulled into the yard, and then went 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: to get the Hyundai to pull that into the yard 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: and then switch in then take the Honda home. But 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the Hundai wouldn't start, so he had gone home to 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: get himself jumper cables. He was going to come back 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: and try and jump it, and that's when we sort 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: of met him out there. So we pushed it in, 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just easier. It was just it 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: was easier to push the car backwards then even try 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: to bother jumping it because you know, it was just 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: that close to the driveway. So we pushed it in 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: and you know, did our paperwork, wrote everything up, and 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: off he goes and off we go, and you know, 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: what could you expect to find. I'm thinking, I'm thinking 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I've got to have a bad alternator, right, And there's 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: that dirty word again, right. What I always tell you guys, 85 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: never assume, you know, assume it's just a tough word 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: in order repair. You assume you're gonna get beat up. 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: But I ran through my usual due diligence. I you know, 88 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I went through first thing, checked the battery. Batteries got 89 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: a standing voltage of twelve point three vaults. Wait a minute, 90 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: it's got eleven point four vaults. And I scratched out 91 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: to twelve point two right, and wait a minute, it's 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: got ten and a half vaults. Wait a minute, it's 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: got twelve and a half folts. You know, the battery 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: voltage is changing by the second. As I'm watching it 95 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: on the meter, I'm going, Okay, what do you want 96 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: to be because you're not right. The battery had failed 97 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: in such a manner that when you turn the key, 98 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: nothing happened, and it needed a battery. It's just and 99 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: what are the odds? Right? I mean he just shut 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: it off right at that moment in proximity of the shop, 101 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: and the car wouldn't start. I mean, talk about crazy. 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, we ended up. I swapped, I put a 103 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: battery in it. I checked it for draw, I checked 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: it for charging system output, and you know, everything was fine. 105 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: It needed a battery. And sometimes the complicated becomes simple 106 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: because we don't assume, or we're not supposed to assume. 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Because I still ran my battery of tests, because I 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: still ran and you know did what I normally would do, 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: even simple battery replacements. And I think this is the 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: takeaway point of this conversation. Even simple battery replacements of 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: late I've developed where I've got a routine and I 112 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: will still do it right. It's you know, check standing voltage, 113 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: write it down, check load voltage, write it down, perform 114 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: the load test, write it down, you know, and you 115 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: start to pick away at things and you start to 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: go in some sort of logical sequential order to help 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: the term because you can't assume, you can't believe that 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: it's it's going to be simple, and you better not 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: because we're seeing far too many vehicles where batteries and 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: battery replacement is getting to be complicated. And you know, 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: it's you've got to be certain of what you're doing 122 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: on something newer, for sure, And there are issues where 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, a memory saver is important, doing fuel trum 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: resets are important, doing you know, adaptives are important. It's 125 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: it's really become part of battery replacement. You know, if 126 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: you get a I don't know, two thousand and five 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: Toyota Corolla, two cables and a bracket and you're not Yeah, 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: that's different that's a very different animal. We had a 129 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Honda Civic on Friday this past week. Michael 130 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: dropped off. The car had a slow crank in his description, 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: and it's important to get the description from the from 132 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: the vehicle owner because number one, it teaches you how 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: they're communicating and how you can communicate better with them, 134 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: but just to get their thoughts. And he said, well, 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: he says, now I have to step on the gas 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: to get at the turnover, which really has no bearing. 137 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Stepping on the gas on a modern day fuel injected 138 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: vehicle doesn't do anything to make it, to make it 139 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: run or operate. It's it's it's inconsequential. So we ended 140 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: up in that case, I went out, I started it, 141 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: It cranked slow, and sure enough it needed a battery. 142 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: What size battery was it? Group fifty one. As a 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: matter of fact, Tom was there. Tom saw this. That 144 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: was Friday morning. Tom was in for his oil change, 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we ended up, you know, putting a 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: battery in it. That battery, because we can assume right 147 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: that battery was two and a half years old, just 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: just a little over two and a half years old, 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: maybe closer to three. Group fifty one batteries on Hondas 150 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: just don't seem to last. And my point becomes, some 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: batteries are dying faster, some batteries are lasting longer, but 152 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: battery failures, it seems like no two are the same. 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: They they vary in they're they're they're very different, you know, 154 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: on a very high scale. You know, we're going back 155 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: to the going back to the Hyundai. We put a 156 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: battery in it and the car started right up and 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely no problem, no issues, and uh, you know, 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: away we went, you know, fixed, and it's it's it's 159 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: only going to continue in that. You know, the vehicles 160 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: aren't going to get any easier in terms of batteries, 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: their connections, their components, and the resets and battery resets 162 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: are going to become a very big part of the 163 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: business on newer vehicles going forward. So you know, just 164 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. Can be done. You need to 165 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: scan tool, you need to follow a procedure, So don't 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: be afraid of it. But just don't don't assume that 167 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: it's just a simple cables and clamps in a way 168 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: you go, you know, it's there's probably a little bit 169 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: more to it than that follow the book. Eight five 170 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero Again eight 171 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Ronin 172 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Ani in the Car Doctor. I'm back right after this. 173 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: Don't go away. You have done. 174 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: What's more fun than listening to Ron and any in 175 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: the Car Doctor and getting that car fixed? 176 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: Right? 177 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: Give Ron a call. Now back to Ron. Hey, let's 179 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Brian from Pennsylvania. Brian, Welcome 180 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? We've 181 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: talked about this car before, haven't we? This ninety eight Mercedes? 182 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 2: I don't believe so I just got this this car. 183 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: Okay, there must be two of them. Good, what do 184 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you got? 185 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: It's a ninety eight Mercedes SLK. And what happened was 186 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: it was given to me and I use it as 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: a summertime car my place up in the Pocados, and 188 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: I loaned it to somebody and then when I got 189 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: it back it was running. It was running hard. So 190 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: I took it this shop. They said it was missfire 191 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: on cylinder to said they replaced I said, just replace 192 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: all the coil packs. They replaced the coil PACs. Then 193 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: it came back as another misfire on cylinder too, and 194 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: it was an injector. They said, no power to the injector. Well, 195 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: here what we ended up finding out. We find out 196 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: my friend that borrowed the car jumped his wife's car 197 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: and he crossed them. He hooked up the jumper cables 198 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: the wrong way. Boy, And we say, we assumed defried 199 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: the computer. So what my shop did was they were 200 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: the guy. They had this young kid from a tech school, 201 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: and he went into the computer and he was able 202 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: to solder a couple of things and he messed around 203 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: with it and he got where the car would run fine. 204 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: I would drive the car. We put two thousand miles 205 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: on the car and we were able to drive it. Now, 206 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: all of a sudden it's acting up again and the 207 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: only thing we possibly could think is it needs a computer. 208 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: So my question is I have a used I have 209 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: a parts car, a complete parts car with a computer 210 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: in it. Because I don't want I called Mercedes. My 211 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: shop called Mercedes, and Mercedes wants four thousand dollars for 212 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: a computer and to reprogram it. 213 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Right, Your question to me is how how can you 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: reprogram that to the vehicle? 215 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I googled it and I was just wondering. 216 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: I see these places that say plug and play, give 217 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: them your vend number and stuff. But I just don't 218 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: know anybody that ever dealt with that. 219 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, it don't work the plug and play places are 220 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: they are they saying all computers some you know, because 221 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: this doesn't work on all all right, Whether or not 222 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: that whether or not that computer can be flashed is 223 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: completely up to Mercedes. If Mercedes says it says it 224 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: can be done, it can it just And if Mercedes 225 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: says they can do it using a used computer, it 226 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: can be done. It just requires proper equipment. The issue 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: you're going to run into is this car is almost 228 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: thirty years old, and who in the outside aftermarket besides 229 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the dealer is going to have equipment going back that far. 230 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: They're out there. You're just going to have to find 231 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: them now. Sometimes, all right, there are mobile texts they're 232 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: called or a mobile reflash guy, and your shop may 233 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: know of one where they can make an appointment and 234 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: have him show up. And because the vehicle is so 235 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: old and the complexity of the repair, he'll have the 236 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: proper equipment because he'll see he'll see you know, he'll 237 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: have he'll have he'll have four hundred customers, four hundred 238 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: shops as his customer, and you know he can justify 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: the cost of the existence, all right. Short short of that, 240 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't know of any other way other than a 241 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Mercedes factory tool, a factory level tool to do that. 242 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was just wondering to see if 243 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: you ever came across it to see because they say 244 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: when you google it and you read it online. I 245 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: never called the people that I saw online the other 246 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: day when I was researching, but they say they do. 247 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: They do to Mercedes, and they said, you just give 248 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: them their vend number and then for eight hundred bucks 249 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: you pay for it and then they ship you back 250 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: at computer that's already programs at a car. 251 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 5: Right. 252 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: It's if they're saying they can do it, all right, 253 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: it can be done. It just takes proper equipment and 254 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: somebody's got to have invested in that equipment. That's my point, 255 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: all right. The only the only other If I'm answering 256 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: your question, right, I'm sorry if I'm not the only 257 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: other way I know that it could be done. And frankly, 258 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: in the shop, you know, I don't even look anymore. 259 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I run into a problem. Something's got to be fleshed. 260 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: I have a tool called an Opus all right, Opus IVS. 261 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: Opus IVS is a particular level of scan tool that 262 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: gives me the ability to you know, I can go 263 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: through and it's it's like a lot of scan tools 264 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: in the sense that it will have you know, standard platform. 265 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: I can interface with all the vehicles out there. But 266 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: then when I get to okay, I've got a reflash. 267 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: It is known as a pass through device where I 268 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: will call up OPUS on the flash line as we 269 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: call it, and they will tell me we can flash this, 270 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: we can't flash that, And if they can't flash it, 271 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: it's because the manufacturer doesn't allow it. So they become 272 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: my my mobile tech guy, and they will flash it 273 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: through as a flash device. Now I tell you this 274 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: not because you need to know what I have in 275 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the shop, but there are other shops out there that 276 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: have Opus IVS scan tools. So if you can find 277 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: somebody that does that local, it may save you the 278 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: trouble and the expense of driving through you know, dry 279 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, sending the computer out and hoping it 280 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: comes back, you know, properly flashed. You get what I'm saying. 281 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: It just takes a particular You know, I know. 282 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: What you're saying because I got friends of mine that 283 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: are in the you know, I'm in the car business, 284 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: and they're in the locksmith business, and they told me 285 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: the same thing. And they said, there's got to be 286 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: somebody out there, right, he said, there's no pother. He says, 287 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: I could not understand for a thirty year old car, 288 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: because what even my mechanic was having a hard time understanding. 289 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: He said. 290 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: To Mercedes, he says, well, why can I buy this 291 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: part online or buy it from a junk yard? He says, 292 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: they sell them all the time on a junk yard. 293 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: And he said, oh well, and they were both of them. 294 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: Both dealership said now impossible, impossible, can't be done. 295 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, oh so you're saying, Oh, so you're saying, Mercedes 296 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: is telling you that you have to buy a new 297 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: computer from them and they'll flash it for four thousand dollars. 298 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they want twenty five hundred hours for the 299 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: computer to have it shipped from They said, to have 300 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: it shipped from Germany. And then it's twenty five hundred hours. 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: We have to bring the car there, and then it's 302 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: twenty five hundred hour. It's two thousand hours, so it's 303 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: a total forty five hundred bucks total and two thousand 304 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: dollars for them to reflash it and put it in 305 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: the car. 306 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I swear we talked about this car. I wonder if 307 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: your buddy called the show about a month and a 308 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: half two months ago. That's kind of funny because there's 309 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: something about this call that's very, very familiar. I wonder 310 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: if he was running into the problem and he was 311 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: trying to have his guy fix it. But nobody ever 312 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: said anything to me about jump starting it backwards. This 313 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: is the first time I'm hearing it. 314 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well I wish I know that, because they 315 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: were for the last three months we were chasing. They 316 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: were replacing that, replacing that. Right when my buddy said 317 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: to me, he says, what's wrong with the bends? I said, 318 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: I got this problem, and then he says, oh, well, 319 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: I wonder if it's got to do it when I 320 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: borrowed it, I said, why didn't you tell me that? 321 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 322 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: There is because the oops. 323 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the oops. I can tell you if it 324 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: can't be flashed, I can tell you why. All right, 325 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: because the late the late nineties early two thousands was 326 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: around the time the car companies were starting to put 327 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I think the term was volatile memory chips in the computers, 328 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: meaning that they would be written once and they couldn't 329 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: be rewritten a second time. So if somebody, if somebody 330 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: is actually able to reflash it, there are I'm going 331 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: to use the word, there are hackers out there that 332 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: are they they've learned which chips on the motherboard are 333 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: storing this volatile memory, and they're unsoldering them and putting 334 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: in new volatile chips, and then then the computer thinks 335 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: it's no you know, Then then it there's there's nothing 336 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: that you know, they see in its memory, so then 337 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: it can be written over And I'd be willing to 338 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: bet if anybody's out there you know that's what they're doing. 339 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: If that's the case with this, if this truly can't 340 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: be overwritten, all right, And the only way we're going 341 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: to get that answer is we're going to have to 342 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: talk to a flasher with older equipment to see what 343 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: the procedure is, and then you'll know. But you make 344 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: a you make a good point, and I feel your pain. 345 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: I think you're going to have to go down the 346 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: road of you know, if it can't be flashed, who 347 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: can hack it? Because there are guys out there. There 348 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: are guys out there. 349 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate the help. Thank you very much, and I 350 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: love the show. 351 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You're very welcome to let us know 352 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: what happens. I'm telling you, I've we talked about this. 353 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: I got to go back in the art guys. I 354 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: think it was where we were more. I think it 355 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: was back beginning of the year. The guy was trying 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: to fix the car. Good lord. Yeah, because in ninety 357 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: eight Mercedes. It's just how many of them are there 358 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: out there? I'm running ay in the car doctor eighty 359 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. What 360 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: are the odds? That's the way we open the show today. 361 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: I'll be back right after this. 362 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: And let's see where do we want to go Now, 363 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: let's go over to Paul and Virginia ninety four Ford 364 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: f one fifty. Paul. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 365 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: How can I help? 366 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? Hello, Ron, Yes, sir, yep, got this truck. I'm 367 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: I think the third owner of it, and it it 368 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: doesn't feel great always, it's it's different. Going into year 369 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 5: and that can even be with the engine off. And 370 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: I was, I was assuming because I know a bad word. 371 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: That night and I was, I was in the in 372 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: a park store and I was getting ready to buy 373 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: eighty ninety eight synthetic full synthetic. 374 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Wait, eighty ninety eight synthetic for what? Oh wait, is 375 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: this a stick or automatic? 376 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? It's a stick. 377 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Okay, ye, different world. 378 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand some miles the unit. Anyway, I was 379 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: getting ready to buy the full synthetic eighty ninety eight, 380 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: and uh, the devellowed the calendar. He's he's the manager. 381 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 5: Uh he he's thinking it might be at yes, and yeah, 382 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: it looks like in my owner's manual that's what it's got. 383 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 384 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: So anyway, on a previous vehicle years ago, another five speed, 385 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 5: and it was making a little bit of noise in 386 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: fifth year, not much, but I just you know, I mean, 387 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: if you had the radio on, you wouldn't heard it. 388 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 5: So I took it in that was about one hundred 389 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 5: and forty thousand miles. I took it into a dealer, 390 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: a four dealer, and have it rebuilt. And when I 391 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 5: got it back, it was making a lot of noise, 392 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: and it was also leaking. It was obviously used ATF. 393 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 5: And I called and I said, why does this have 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: ATF in it? Well, that's so you can shift it. 395 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 5: They said, Well it had eighty to ninety weight when 396 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 5: I brought it in, and I could shift it. That 397 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 5: was never a problem. Anyway, I wound up taking it 398 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 5: to another rebuilder. 399 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, well here, before we go, before we go 400 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: too far down the road, poll because we're gonna you know, 401 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: we don't want to. I've only got a half hour left. 402 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: The end result here is, you know, what does this 403 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: vehicle call for? I believe ATF is the right fluid. 404 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: The reason they went from gear oil to ATF had 405 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: to do with fuel economy and parasitic trick. I'm not 406 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: saying I agree with it. I'm just telling you what 407 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: was there, all right, and the rationale for it. Now 408 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: to cut to the chase. All right. If if this 409 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: is an automatic trends requirement vehicle, all right, I can 410 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: tell you what I did in my ninety seven Ranger. 411 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: I've got a ninety seven Ranger, two wheel drive, three 412 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: liter V six stick truck, right five speed, and that 413 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: that calls for ATF also and for the last twenty 414 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: years that vehicle has run. If you sit down General 415 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Motors Synchromesh manual trans fluid, it has roughly the same 416 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: viscosity as ATF, but it's got a little bit better 417 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: formulation for parasitic drag and it actually smoothed out the 418 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: shift point. Now, I'm not saying that's going to fix 419 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: your problem. If you've got an issue putting this into 420 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: first gear vehicle off, it's it's likely either an internal 421 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: linkage issue or trans issue or a problem with the 422 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: clutch itself. Does it have any issues going into reverse 423 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: at any given time? 424 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 5: No? 425 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: Okay, then fluid A fluid change is your first step. 426 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: And when you drain out what's in there, I would 427 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: definitely try and catch some of it, because I'm going 428 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: to tell you to take the oil and filter it 429 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: through a paint strainer to see if you know, are 430 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: there any metal particles in this trans? All right? And 431 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: then at that point, you know, at that point, you know, 432 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: we can talk about if there's metal, well, then it's 433 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: got to come out and get rebuilt, and you know, 434 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: make that decision how many miles are on this unit? 435 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Because if you notice, I haven't asked you that up till. 436 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 5: Now, oh around three d. 437 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and I kind of figured as much, you know. 438 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand, three hundred thousand. Obviously you like the truck, 439 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: you bought it, you're still driving it, right, three. 440 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: Hundred you don't use a drop. 441 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Of oil, right, three hundred thousand. If you can find 442 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: parts for a thirty one year old vehicle, all right, 443 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: if you can find proper parts and rebuild it thirty 444 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: one thousand, uh thirty one miles thirty one years later, 445 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand miles. You know, if it's three thousand 446 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: dollars or four thousand dollars to rebuild this, trends, that's 447 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: still cheaper than buying a new truck, which is you know, 448 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: going to begin at sixty sixty five, right, so three 449 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: four grand is nothing. And then while you got it apart, 450 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: you put a clutch in it and get it over 451 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: with al together. Other just make sure good quality clutch, 452 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: you know. The other argument for rebuilding this or repairing 453 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: this now, if it does need it, I'm not saying 454 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: to do it, you know if it doesn't. But a 455 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: good argument for doing it now is if you're planning 456 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: to drive the truck any length of time. Parts are 457 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: on a time bomb or on a timeline. They're a 458 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: ticking time bomb. You know. Every minute that goes by 459 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: is one more minute less likely to be able to 460 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: get something. So don't put off rebuilding next year, which 461 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: you can rebuild now, because if you can find parts now, 462 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: you may not be able to find it six months 463 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: a year from now. And that's that's really how I 464 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: try and encourage people to think. You know, even if 465 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: you even if you purchase an overhaul kit now and 466 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: let it sit on the shelf for a year or two, 467 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: at least you've got it. And that's that's the problem, 468 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's it's that's the only that's the 469 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: only problem with an older vehicle, you know. So just 470 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: just just be aware if all that makes sense to you, right, 471 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: all right, you know, it's it's funny we use all 472 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: drive older vehicles. Thirty years ago, that truck was brand 473 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: new and we drove it everywhere. The problem is you 474 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: take it somewhere now and if it breaks down, can't 475 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: find parts for it. So it's a it's an issue, 476 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: and it's a lot simpler vehicle to fix it, isn't 477 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: it isn't the knowledge to fix it. It's the parts 478 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: that are a problem. So just just be aware. But 479 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: you can find just go if you want to try 480 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: fluid first verify is it an ATF and I believe 481 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: it is. You know, before you go, put eighty ninety 482 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: eight in it, because that's really going to take you 483 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: in the other direction. That's going to make the sliders 484 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: and the syncros work harder because it's going to be thicker. Right, 485 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: what would I would take a spin at putting GM 486 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: manual trans fluid in it. You know it's still out there. 487 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Obviously GM hasn't well, they still make some manual transit, 488 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: but not like for what the application was really designed. 489 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: But I would try GM manual trans fluid if you 490 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: can still find it and see what that does for you. 491 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: It might make your life easier. All right, kiddo, all right, 492 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: you're ay, welcome sir. You'd be well eight five five 493 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero on a nady 494 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: of the car doctor coming back right after this? You know, 495 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: what are the odds? Next? Up? Jerry in uh where's 496 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Jerry from? I can tell you it's not on my screen, 497 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: but Jerry's in Rehobo Delaware, because I've got Jerry's email 498 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: two pages right in front of me. I was going 499 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: to talk about this this weekend. Jerry, you're there, my friend. 500 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here. 501 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Brother, you got guts. Let me tell you. Let me 502 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: see eight nine steps of trying to repair this vehicle. 503 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: A wiring harness. Jerry, you put a wiring harness in 504 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: this car? Yeah, oh my god, God bless you. And 505 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't even for the vehicle. You put an O 506 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: three wiring harness in an oh seven Chrysler Town and Country. 507 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 508 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 4: I didn't do it. Thechanic, my local mechanic did that 509 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: as the last resort kind of a thing. They couldn't 510 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: get a two thousand and seven because existed. 511 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 5: Right. 512 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, brother, you got guts. You must love this vehicle. 513 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you where I am. And 514 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, for everybody out there, I've got Jerry's email 515 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: in front of you. Jerry's got a vehicle, and correct 516 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: me where I'm wrong here, Jerry, if I'm not reading 517 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: it right. It started out running rough and backfiring, and 518 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: the check engine light came on. He did spark plugs, 519 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: he did injectors, He did a couple of engine computers. 520 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: He put a wiring harness in it, he put a 521 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: new battery in it, he put a uh, he replaced 522 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: the fan relay, the gas cap, fuel pump, He did 523 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: a bunch of pile aparts here right, Jerry, Right, you 524 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: know what sort of diagnosis was done before we fired 525 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: the shot the parts cannon here. 526 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: Well, they diagnosed it and it came back to fifth 527 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: cylinder was a problem. That's what initially happened, I guess. 528 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 4: And they replaced the spark plug and then the fuel injector, 529 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 4: and then it went off, you know, momentarily back and 530 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: forth kind of right and right. 531 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: Now it's in a it'll start but then die. 532 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: Now it starts perfectly. It runs. I can run fifty 533 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: miles sixty miles when I stop it after about if 534 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: I leave it sid for about five minutes, it won't restart. Okay, 535 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 4: Then about twenty minutes or so, starts up perfect I 536 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: can run it again for another fifty miles or more? 537 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Can it? Can it be easily duplicated? 538 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 4: What do you mean easily do? 539 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 5: Well? 540 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: If you dropped it off your mechanic and he were 541 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: to tap in some test equipment and take it for 542 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: a ride if he made it the donut car that week, 543 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, went out for ten o'clock donuts. 544 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: He's driven it all around, he's tested it and done whatever. 545 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: And he's a longtime guy too, and he's talked to 546 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: a lot of local people and nobody can get a 547 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: handle on. But what would cause this? And then the 548 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: engine light doesn't come on, the check engine light doesn't 549 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: come on. 550 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So so here follow me a second, right, can 551 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: he duplicate the problem? Can he make if he drives 552 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: it long enough, will it die on him one day 553 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: during the course of the work week? 554 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 555 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what happens for him too? 556 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Okay? So first thing I want to do is I mean, listen, 557 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: you want to you want to know what I would do? Right, 558 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: I'd strap a fuel pressure gage to the windshield. I 559 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: don't care what you've replaced, I don't care what you've 560 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: tested up to this point. I want to walk up 561 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: to this like it's a fresh vehicle. Too many hands 562 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: in the pot, too many things have been done to it. 563 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I want to know that it's got fuel pressure when 564 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: it does all right? Can we do that? 565 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: Okay? I guess I can get him to do that. 566 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: All right, number one. Number two. If he's an old 567 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: guy like me, he's probably labscope competent. I'd like to know, 568 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: all right, can he can he put a lab scope 569 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: on the crank sensor? These had labs scope, these had 570 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: These had crank sensor problems if we because let's face it, 571 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: this started out as a as a as a cylinder five. 572 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: I think you said misfire right once a one cylinder 573 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: misfire is not going to prevent a vehicle from running right. 574 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: It's going to run badly, but it'll run. 575 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 6: Right. 576 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: So either either something misdiagnosed I'm not accusing anybody of anything, 577 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: or somebody missed the mark, or you know, it's I 578 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: always think about that episode. I love Lucy who put 579 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: the east in the bread, and that bread fourteen feet 580 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: long comes out of the oven, right, so you know 581 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: who touched what last and who went down the wrong path. 582 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: I want to go back to basics. I want to 583 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: see fuel pressure. I want to see I want I 584 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: want an experiment, pluging a scan tool, crank the engine 585 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: over all, right, disable fuel, crank the engine over will 586 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: the crank sensor trigger the computer and show me cranking rpm? Yes? Good, 587 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: that's good plug fuel pressure back in, now, catch it 588 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: when it's dead. When it's dead, do I see cranking 589 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: rpm signal on my scan tool? 590 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 5: No? 591 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I got a crank censor problem. Maybe it's as 592 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: simple as that. Either that or I'm going to say, 593 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: can we get a labscope out and start to monitor, 594 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, signals and sensors. When I read your email initially, Jerry, 595 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I said, this is a signal and sensor car. You're 596 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through this wire by wire. This 597 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: is no more assumption. 598 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 5: Way. 599 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: That word came up three times this week, all right, 600 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: And I want to know fuel pressure. I want to 601 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: know does it have spark when it doesn't start? And 602 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: there's an easy test spark tester out under the hood, 603 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: all right? And does it have cranking rpm? What is 604 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: it missing? 605 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: If it's missing, it's said when you when it won't start, 606 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: it sounds like it wants to turn over, and it's 607 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: got fire and everything, but it. 608 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: Just right, Well, you're like it's. 609 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: Not getting gas even even bypassed the uh the fuel 610 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: pump and put the gas in directly. Okay, and that 611 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: didn't do anything either, right. 612 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: But we're assuming I want to know what fuel pressure 613 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: is all right? Humor me, all right, humor me. If 614 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: that was a one cylinder lawnmarwer engine, how would you 615 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: diagnose it? Does it have fuel? Does it have spark? 616 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: And does it mechanically sound? Same thing, bigger engine. I 617 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: don't want to. I also don't want to get sidetracked. 618 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: I know it's not the answer your looking looking for. 619 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: You're looking for a silver bullet. I don't have one, brother, 620 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: nobody does. All right, Right, well, well I've seen plenty 621 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: like this, and I fixed everything the Good Lord has 622 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: thrown my way. The only things I haven't fixed are 623 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: with somebody backs down and they realize the expense involved. 624 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: All right, but everything I've ever fixed, I've fixed it 625 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: the same way. Fuel pressure, cranking, RPM, spark? Do I 626 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: have injector pulse? You know? I read in your email? 627 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: How the the the ASD relay is shut down? Sure, 628 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: because it's missing one of those signals. This is a 629 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: censor and signal vehicle. Now you've changed too much. You've 630 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: changed the parameters of the test you played, Captain Kirk. 631 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: This is the Kobyashi Maru. You changed the parameters to 632 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: the point that now you've made it so no service 633 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: manual no previous experience, Nothing anybody's worked on up till 634 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: this point is going to apply. So now it's a 635 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: matter of and I got to go. But now it's 636 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: a matter of you've got to break this card down 637 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: into its simplest form, spark fuel distribution mechanical. Call me 638 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: back when you know. I'll be here for you, Jerry, 639 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car. Doctor. I'll be back 640 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: here for everybody else right after this, you know, And 641 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna hold calls online there. We'll hold you guys 642 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: till the next hour when you get a car like Jerry's. 643 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Jerry's car can be fixed, but the problem's going to 644 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: be is it justifiable? And an awful lot's been done 645 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: to it to modify a wiring harness between from an 646 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: seven vehicle to make an O three harness fit in seven. 647 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what the changes were, but God bless them. 648 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: That takes guts, and I think that's I think that's 649 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: a that's a that's a great call to try. If 650 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: it works. Did it work? But if you notice his 651 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: problem changed. He originally started out with a running rough 652 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: under five misfire and now it's a dies after fifty 653 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: miles on the road, and it's been over some period 654 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: of time. So have they been fixing problems along the way. 655 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Did they solve one problem only to have it rear 656 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: its head again a short time later in some other 657 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: form or some other problem. You don't know. You've got 658 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: a signal and sensor car. Now you've got to go 659 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: through that pin for pin, wire for wire, sensor for sensor. 660 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: You've modified enough and it still comes back to basics. 661 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: It really does. I don't think it's impossible to fix. 662 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 1: Look if I sounded short, I'm going through the change, 663 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm going through manopause. I don't have time for goof 664 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: and off. I want to get things done. So let's 665 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: go back to the scope. Let's look at signals, let's 666 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: look at scan tools, let's look at basics, and that 667 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: car can be fixed. Jerry, you called me back. I'm 668 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: run an ady in the car. Doctor till the next time. 669 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 670 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 5: See you 671 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 6: The d