WEBVTT - Season 3 Premiere: Not Very Maternal with Katy Perry 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.760 Hi, Hi, Catherine. How are you, Hi, Chelsea. We're in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.640 a different studio today, we are, it's all a little 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.719 bit different. We have a tiny dog friend visiting us today. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:12.640 I feel like, but it's all in the same color 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.880 scheme as our studio. Was that intentional, you know what? 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.920 Really prepared for us? Yes, but this is a good 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.120 backdrop for us. Maybe we should move our studio over 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.240 to here. I'd love that we're recording right now from 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.440 Jim Henson's studios, which is very exciting. There's lots of 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.520 Kermit the Frogs everywhere. I also didn't connect the dots 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.240 when you kept mentioning Kermit via text the relationship to 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.680 Henson's studios. It never once occurred to me that it 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.040 would be Jim Henson studios. And I thought it was 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.000 being all cute too, because I was like, Chelsea, just 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.640 meet me by Kermi. I know. I'm like, what what 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.080 the fund is? Kermi? I'm like, is that a street? 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.920 How are you, Katherine? I'm doing great. I just got 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.160 back from Mexico, went on a little girl's trip to 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.000 play a Harris and it was delightful. Oh oh you 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.800 know what, Mr Koy and I went on a Little 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.520 John to Mexico. Yeah, we did. We just got back 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.880 from Mexico. We went for a few days and we 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.280 went to Cabo because we didn't have we hadn't had 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.240 any time in the sun, and after he devoted so 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.319 much time to in the snow, to me, I have 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.240 to just give into his every whim, which means I 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.119 have to go to Cabo, like, you know, every two 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.920 every two and a half months, which is no problem. Yes, yeah, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.720 is that one of his favorite places to be? It 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.880 is now? It is now after this trip, he's like, oh, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.120 this is awesome. We did a couple's massage. He loves 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.080 that ship. That's really He isn't a fan of a massage. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.280 He likes a fan of anything we can do together. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.479 You know. It's one activity after another together juntos as 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.920 they say in Spanish, do you get to a point 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.920 where you want to be separatos? Well, I don't. I 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.280 don't want to be separated, But when we are separated, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.200 I don't hate it. I'm not upset that we're separated. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.080 We're separated a lot when we're on the roads. When 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.240 we come back together, that's a nice you know, it 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.320 keeps the honeymoon phase going for a while, but yeah, 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.760 he definitely. But Joe is a person that also likes 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.280 to be he wants to be around his son or 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.160 he wants to be around friends. Like he's not gonna 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.400 sit in his hotel room alone for three hours, right, 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.680 I am eight hours, Give me eight hours, and I'll 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.400 still need more time alone, like I'm down, and you 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.160 love him even more when you come back. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.040 So I definitely have I have an active alone relationship. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.040 That's a good way to say it. Well, there is 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.520 something nice about that. I know. My husband Brad went 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.480 on tour a few years ago and he was gone 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.960 for like four months, and I thought I would just 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.880 be kind of devastated because we're a little let's say interdependent, 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.200 maybe that codependent put it, yes, But I was like, wait, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.359 it's really nice to have the house to myself. It's 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.360 really nice to just do whatever I want all day, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.480 Like it was great. And then I was happy when 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.160 he came home too. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.880 It's it's very interesting to see people who enjoy alone 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.280 time versus people because I used to never be alone 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.160 and then I got a taste of it during the 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.400 pandemic and I was like, oh, I like me, I 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.400 like alone. Yeah, I was into it. I was like, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.200 this is a good time. I'm having a good time 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.000 with myself. Like we were both on the same page. Yeah, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.880 you can do your secret single behavior, just like maybe 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.320 be a little messier than you would normally be, like 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.920 a little lazier than you'd normally be. And that is 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.840 the one good thing about Joe is that he's so 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.480 fucking messy that no mess I could make is worse 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.840 than his. You know, we're both kind of a hot mess. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.600 But I always felt before I had a serious boyfriend, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.920 I just always felt like it would be nice to 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.840 have a boyfriend that wanted to spend all of his 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.120 time with me. So I remember that anytime I think, wow, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.920 this is a lot, I just remember you thought that 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.840 would be nice, because it's better than the opposite. You know, 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.960 a person who wants to avoid you, and it's like 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.280 constantly making plans. Oh my god, it's way about it 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.840 than the opposite. Yeah, Like, anytime I'm available for anything, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.920 Joe's right there. He's like, let's go, and he's like 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.840 game to party, to have a good time. Yeah, he 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.000 follows my lead. Yeah, and that's that's a good setup 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.920 for me. Do you find when he's not there that 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.280 you're sort of missing the rapport that he rings to 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.120 the table, like if you're out with friends or are 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.400 you feeling like it's great? Yeah? No, he definitely adds 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.840 a nice little slice when he shows up at things, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.400 like with my girlfriends. We went to a party the 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.640 other night, and it was so funny because I said, oh, 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.240 you know, my friend was saying, oh. I said, don't 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.440 tell all of our drug stories to Joe. Do me 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.560 a favor when you meet him. He was coming to 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.640 meet us at a party and and they go drug stories. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.960 I go, he's coming tonight. There were four girls with 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.320 my friends of mine. We all worked on Chelsea, the 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.440 show on Netflix together, so we traveled all around the 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.200 world together. So there was a lot of ship that 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.000 went down. And my friend goes drug stories. This is 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.520 a mushroom party that we're going to. It said mushrooms 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.800 on the invitation and it was my invitation. But I 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.440 looped to my girlfriends in because we were supposed to 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:45.400 go out. I go, why don't we all just go 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.000 to this party together? And I go, really did it 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.080 say mushrooms? I was like, I didn't even see that. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.160 And they're like, that's classic, Chelsea, Like you don't even 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.039 know that you're bringing us to a drug party and 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.840 that you just invited your boyfriend, who you don't want 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.280 to talk to drugs about about, you know, to a 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:02.360 mushroom party. So he gets my girlfriend proceeded to tell 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.960 one drug story after another about me. She's like. And 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.760 then we were in Colombia and Chelsea I was like, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.560 all right, shut and we're all looking around. I go, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.080 are you what's wrong with you? I just told you 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.360 to do the opposite of what you're doing. And it 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.279 was so funny. And I looked at Joe and I go, 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.520 just so you know, honey, like I told them not 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.360 to tell you all these things. It's like, why why 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.560 you think I'm so judgy? I go, you are judging, Like, 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.920 I know you don't think you're judging, but you're judge 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.880 about drugs. He doesn't like when people like, you know, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.120 at his birthday party, we had people there and like 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.560 people were really partying, and he he was like, it's 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.599 too much. I don't I'm like, people are in Vegas 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.200 for three days. They're allowed to do whatever they want 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.680 to do, and if somebody got a little sloppy or 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.640 got a little messy, and then that's their release, you 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.200 know what I mean, stop judging that. And it's happening 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.080 in Vegas, so it's staying exactly I know. So he's 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.960 not I don't want to pay the picture that he's 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.039 super judging and that, you know. Anyway, after that night, 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.400 I was like, all right, so I guess it's all out, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.440 you know, you know everything, And he's like, I just 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.320 worry about you when you're not safe, and I'm like, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.760 I know, honey, but I'm here, I'm alive, everything worked out. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.440 Don't worry about me. Like, I know how to do 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.800 drugs and I know how to survive. So when you 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.360 say people, quote unquote we're doing drugs, there's maybe one 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.680 person that he was concerned about more than others. No, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.280 actually no, it was a friend of mine who was 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.159 a bit of a hot mess. She's probably listening to 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.440 this podcast right now, so no, it actually wasn't me, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.800 and so I got in trouble for my friend's behavior, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.120 and then eventually, you know, we had to sort that out. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.680 I was like, you can't be mad at me for 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:41.320 something that someone else did. Sorry, anyway, you know the 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.880 trials and tribulations of a new coupling, right exactly. You know. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.480 I read something recently and they said all they had 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.000 asked the universe for was a super hot guy who 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.599 partied at the same speed as they did. And I 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.960 was like, that is perfect. That's what we're always looking for, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.240 a super parties. That's good. I should have put that 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.479 in my list. Yeah. Like and at the same speed. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.240 It's like, not too much, not too little. Just y. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.440 It sounds like you guys have that going on for 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.240 the most part. We do. Yeah, that's great. I'm also 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.320 cracking up, Chelsea because you have not looked at the 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.920 script yet today, and you have covered several things that 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:24.200 we're going to talk about today with question of me. Yes, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.200 it's pretty amazing and exciting. Oh wait, I have set 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.760 updates that I want to promote you guys. Today's May twelve. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.640 So tonight I'm in New Orleans. Tomorrow I'm in Birmingham, Alabama, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.920 and then I'm in San Antonio, Texas on Saturday night. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.320 Then I'm coming to Montclair and Huntington's and I'm shooting 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:47.000 my stand up special, my next stand up special in Nashville, 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.360 at the Rhyme in so please, there's an early show 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.640 and there's a late show. Please get your tickets. And 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.600 this is our first episode back three. It is can 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.920 you believe it? How fun is that? It's really excite. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.600 Since it's season three, we decided to bring on a 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.280 very special guest who is currently judging her fifth season 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.480 on American Idol. She has a Vegas residency called Play 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.480 at the Resorts World Theater, and she also has a 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.600 new song out with a Lesso called when I'm Gone 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.560 and has the title track on Thomas Rhet's new record, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.200 Where We Started. She recently bought out her joint venture 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.760 with her shoe line, Katie Perry Collections and now totally 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.560 owns the line, which just debuted their Spring collection at 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.040 the end of March. And she is a co founder 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.560 of a new line of non alcoholic Appertifs Para Tiefs 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.719 of Appertifs apparent Tiefs. Right. I actually don't know that. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:48.800 I actually don't call this way. Please welcome Katie Perry. Hey, Hi, Kai, 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:56.800 Katie brought her doll. Hello. Hello, I can't hear myself. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:02.439 I love to hear myself. Last time I talked to you. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.040 You were about you we were talking about ayahuasca. Oh yeah, no, no, 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.000 I never unwrapped my core. But you sure you didn't know. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.520 But I know, I know you guys were doing that. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.720 Orlando did he went deep? Yeah, he gets deep. He's 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.280 a deep person. Well he's a seeker. Yeah, so what 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.400 are you. I'm a seeker as well. But I'm just also, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.400 you know, I've got like that artist's brain that is 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.600 just a little bit more temperamental sometimes, So you think 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.240 you have sometimes bad reactions to things or sense. Yeah, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.439 I don't smoke. I can't smoke weed. Oh I'm one 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.480 of those catch me in a corner. Yeah, I got that. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.920 Weed isn't for everybody, and that's something I had to 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.960 learn the hard way by giving it out to people 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.480 who couldn't handle it. And I saw that. Yeah, I've 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.320 done that a lot. I'm like an enabler. Did you 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.960 ever have a bad reaction on your show when you 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:56.200 would like have your round table with the weed and 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:01.120 the food. No, one, No, that was on the best behavior. Actually, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.040 you know, maybe I take that back. Maybe somebody had 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.280 a slightly bad reaction. But when you're on camera, you know, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.040 you kind of have to temper that reaction and just 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.800 try to keep it together. But the one we want 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.720 ate a cannabis dinner on one of my episodes of 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.280 my show, and I was high for three days, playing 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.600 a lot for you because your tolerance must be. My 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.120 eye was shut for three days. I couldn't open it. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.640 I was like, Ah, Okay, we have Katie Perry here, finally. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.240 I'm so excited to have you. It's our premier episode 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.400 of season three, and I'm excited to talk to you 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.720 about all things. And I can't wait to hear all 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.079 the advice you give to our callers that call in 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.800 and write in. Advice, yes, coming from both of us, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.760 because well, I think you have a lot of wisdom 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.679 to impart. Well. Thanks. I mean I've got to see 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.439 a lot of the world, so that's a little perspective maybe. Yeah, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:53.400 And you've had a lot of experiences, different experiences, and 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.520 I was just telling you I'm living like in Kentucky 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.400 and I have for almost a month now, and that's 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.520 quite a um amazing experience because it reminds you that 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.280 Hollywood is not America, uh huh, And you need to 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.120 remember that because I think you can understand people better. Yeah, right, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.920 It's nice to get outside of what you know to 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.320 be normal and your reality. Yeah, I mean they're living 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.040 in a bubble of sorts. Were living in a bubble. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.480 Our bubbles are completely opposite, but there. Yeah, it's interesting. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.320 But you've been in different bubbles because you grew up 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.960 in a bubble. You grew up super religious. Yeah, and 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.520 that's one bubble. Then you came into this industry. That's 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:31.719 another bubble, right there. Bubble's apology study of human Yeah, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:37.200 that sapiens three. So talk to me about motherhood. Motherhood 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.160 best decision I have remained in my entire life. Really. Yeah. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.360 I wasn't very maternal, and I think that probably stems 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.480 from some childhood stuff. And we talked about, you know, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.120 going on certain journeys, whether that's plant base or psychological 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.520 or drug based or drug base. Yeah, well plant and 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.679 drug I mean that's the same thing, right, some of it. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.120 And I did a lot of work behind that stuck 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.880 feeling of not being maternal, although I was very maternal 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.640 with all of my friends, I mean my fans and 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.400 and my friends, they all called me mom because I 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.319 love to take care of people. I like I find 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.120 joy through other people's joy. Like if they're having a 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.760 great time, I'm having a great time. But still there 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.560 was a little bit of a disconnect, and so I 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.839 did go on that journey and found the little um 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.240 spots that needed some tuning up. And Orlando I got 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.600 to see what a great dad he was with his 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.600 first child, Flynn, who's now eleven, And so that definitely 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.960 primarily influenced me, Like something inside of me said, you, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:37.760 mid thirties, this man is nice must read. He's you know, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.679 he's a kind man. He's a love machine. I mean 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.440 that in a sexual way. I mean that in a 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.440 personal way, like when you meet Orlando and you have 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.040 a conversation with Orlando, he is filled with love and 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.080 spreading love. He's like a machine. I always say when 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.040 he walks into the room, he has this Jouis d 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.000 vive about him, and he really does. And you know, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.120 some people are like, is that guy on? But he 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:05.640 has just really got this kind of like happy, possy vibes, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.600 you know. And I'm a little bit more like heavy 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.360 and prone to depression in some ways, and so it's 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.439 good for me to be around him because he gets 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.640 me out of my head a little bit. Yeah, that's funny. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.240 I have a similar dynamic with my boyfriend Joe, because 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.080 he is all positive vibes, all happiness up up yeah, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.120 And I could be much more cynical than that, where 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.960 I'm just like, no, that guy's a fucking asshole. Why 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.040 are we hugging him? Yeah? I used to think people 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.240 like that were like losers, like they didn't understand the 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.880 fullness of life, because I don't know, how could someone 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.080 be that happy all the time. But maybe they just haven't, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.679 you know, had as much trauma as us, or maybe 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.360 they have and they are just willing to turn it 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:49.040 into positive vibes whatever I'm going to tell you. But 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.600 I feel that way too, because Joe hugs everyone everyone 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.760 we meet, like, and so all of a sudden, he's 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.000 living in my house, hugging my cleaning lady. Every morning 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.880 before he leaves, he hugs the landscaper, And now I'm 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.200 hugging everybody because otherwise I look like a total bit 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.320 well I know, I know, I know how that feels. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.480 I wasn't really a hugger for a while, and you know, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.079 had to kind of work through that, and then when 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.240 COVID came, I was like, hmm, I'm kind of okay 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:16.240 with this like no touching, fine, me too. I felt 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.520 the same way totally. But but I am there's two 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.880 parts of me. When I am on stage and doing 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.160 my professional life, I'm really a hugger. But at home 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.200 and like in domestic life and personal life, you know, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.520 I'm on the matriarch of the family and just like you, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.760 just like keeping everything in order, dotting the eyes and 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.960 crossing the d's and you know, Katie. I mentioned Katie 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:40.880 show in Vegas, which I was trying to come see 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.480 when we were in Vegas two weeks ago, but you 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.400 weren't performing. That wasn't it was going to be a 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.840 one night only for you though, But I'm gonna come 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.840 and see you anyway. We're gonna come back and seeone 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.920 who's listening. It's a really fun, fun time. So tell 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.640 me about how what are you noticing about yourself becoming 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.280 a mother, Like, what are you surprised about that you're 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.680 able to tolerate, or your pay hints or whatever area 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.240 of your personality that you've discovered. Well, I think that 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.760 your definition of success changes in life as you get older, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.280 and you know, as Coachella has just passed, we observe 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:17.720 the definition of success for gen Z's and Easter Easter 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:22.040 Passover and Coachella. Yes, And you know, I think your 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.160 definition of success coming up and your twenties is very 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:30.000 outward and material and ego driven and all that jazz. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.440 And then thirties hits and you care less, and there's 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.320 a kind of an inner confidence and respect for yourself 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.760 that starts to grow. Maybe. And then with the motherhood, 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.760 you know, your definition of well, my definition of success 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.520 is just her happiness. And again, her happiness really gives 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.600 me that joy. But a lot of like bs just 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.920 falls away. Stuff that you thought was important really was 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.800 never important, and you just don't you know, you don't 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.400 have time for any sort of energy drama that's not 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.960 important in your family. And you know, your family really 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.440 starts to become first because you know, like when you're 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.480 dating someone, you don't how many kids you've got, like 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.200 your posse and this posse and like a couple of 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.080 few different posses for different things, and like you meet 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.360 all the time, blah blah blah. And although I still 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.400 have a lot of those friends, if something, for some 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.640 reason becomes a little too complicated, I'm like, I'm out. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.240 I gotta leave this chat. This chat, I'm out because 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.720 I got to make sure my the health and wellness 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.920 of my child is always in the a world. But 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.600 I think that you just feel a lot more grounded 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.920 and you focus better. You kind of there's a lot 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.560 of lollygagging before kids, and you know that your time 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.120 is limited outside of being with them, or or that 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.360 if you spend two hours doing something, that better be 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.600 of real value, because that's two hours you could like 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.080 engage with the person that you love the most, that 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.800 loves you the most. So there's a lot of a 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.000 element and truly, and I'm in a really privileged place, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.800 I get you know, I have a wonderful nanny and 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.080 all that stuff. So it may be an easier time 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.720 for someone like myself than anyone else out there. But 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.359 I've seen I've got to see a lot of views 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.800 of many different mountains, and professionally, I started to see 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.840 some of the same views. You know. I've been on tour, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.639 travel the world three times. I got the opportunity to 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.680 play Super Bowl. All these things that I'm so so 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.879 grateful I got to check off my list before I 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.080 had a child. But then you start doing them over again. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.680 You don't get the same high. Yeah, and so you're like, well, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.160 what's the next level to life? And then you start 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.320 doing like a lot of plant based medicine because you're like, 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.080 there's gotta be a better grid out there. We need 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.960 to see the next dimension or whatever. You know, it's 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.639 just and and and children for me definitely are that. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.199 I mean my daughter is is that for me? And 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.040 has it had it impact your relationship with your mom 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:56.160 or your dad being becoming a parent? Yes? For sure, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:02.440 for sure there's there is profound respect and also profound anger, 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.719 not anger, but just like what's and also just like 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.600 amazement that how did we just how did three of 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:15.120 us survive? Because like you turn the corner for two 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.960 seconds and you're just like how did you get there? 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.120 What is in your mouth? And I give you all 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.200 the toys you ever could want, but you still want 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.160 to an electrical socket, like you know the dog chew 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.040 toys that are like the Rolex or the Starbucks cup 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.320 and stuff like that. They need to make like a 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.560 an electrical outlet toy for kids that they're really attracted 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.080 to that's maybe like bedazzled or something, so that they 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.680 go to that one first rather than like the real ones. Yeah, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.639 that's probably a good idea, along with a bunch of 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.480 other sharp objects like steak knives or things like that. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.440 I think I have seen a children's steak knife collection 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.600 because I think I tried to use one accidentally, because 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.040 that's how domesticated I am that I don't know you 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.880 can't cut with a rubber knife. But I love all 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.800 that you're saying. I have to say from a personal perspective, 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.680 like for me watching your Instagram and watching everything. Obviously, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.000 I see you all the time hosting Idol, and I 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.399 know you post about Idol a lot, and that's fun. 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.399 But you seem like your abulliate, like you have a 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.240 what is that word mean, like a big light around you, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.440 like everything is. You seem like you're in a great place. Well, 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.960 don't thank me, thank the well Bucher. And quite honestly, 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.879 what is well is well preucheron over the counter or 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.880 is that a prescription prescription? Oh and it's an antidepressant. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.600 Oh okay, because I thought that, well, I must be 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.040 confusing it with some other medication that you can buy 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:42.359 over the counter. Well whatever, Wellness something No, But truly, 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.840 I think my daughter has reshaped my life, my perspective, 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:50.520 and given me a love I've never had before. It's 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.199 a love and kind of a not a validation, but 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.480 I guess validation in its purest form is love. I've 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.440 always been wanting that love. That's always been my number 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.120 one currency. And then when she came, it was just like, 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.719 I love you for for no reason, just because you 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.240 are And I'm like, what, you don't need anything from me? 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.080