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Speaker 4: As the Chicago White Sox just wrapped up their home
Speaker 4: series against the Cleveland Guardians. What a wild series this
Speaker 4: was between the White Sox and the Guardians, and good
Speaker 4: news for the White Sox to continue. They're winning ways
Speaker 4: at home, winning two out of three against the Guardians
Speaker 4: and the Ales Central is tied up once again heading
Speaker 4: to the halfway point of the twenty twenty six season.
Speaker 4: This show's rundown, we'll talk about that wild series win
Speaker 4: against Cleveland. Did we have a top ten win of
Speaker 4: the season. This week Bitching stars Sean Newcomb, Anthony Kay
Speaker 4: and Sean Burke, and we'll be previewing the upcoming series
Speaker 4: as the Kansas City Royals visit the South Side this weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great series.
Speaker 5: You know, to be able to win a series, especially
Speaker 5: against these guys, means a lot. The same time, you know,
Speaker 5: we challenge a lot throughout the series and some things
Speaker 5: that we can grow from and learn from. Some things
Speaker 5: we've got to clean up, but also a lot of
Speaker 5: positive stuff from our pitching staff. I thought we did
Speaker 5: a great job of controlling them. A couple of walks
Speaker 5: that you don't love to see, but overall a really
Speaker 5: nice job, you know.
Speaker 6: In the Run for Prevention.
Speaker 4: Department, that's White Sox manager Will Vennable recapping the teams
Speaker 4: series win against the Cleveland Guardians, and now I'm joined
Speaker 4: by Sox Machines Beat reporter James Svegan and Sox Machines
Speaker 4: managin editor Jim Margolis and Hello, gentlemen, A very good
Speaker 4: series win. For the Chicago White Sox. So they go
Speaker 4: one and five on the road against the Yankees and
Speaker 4: the Tigers. They get swept by the Tigers and then
Speaker 4: turn around at home and win two out of three
Speaker 4: against the Guardians, and as we approach the halfway point
Speaker 4: of the season, they're tied for first place. I don't
Speaker 4: think any of us were expecting the White Sox to
Speaker 4: be where they're at, So this season continues to be
Speaker 4: a pleasant surprise. But James, I want to start with Monday,
Speaker 4: because that is one of the more wild games we
Speaker 4: have seen this season with sam an Ton not she
Speaker 4: saving Grant Taylor and Sir Anthony Domingus with that walk
Speaker 4: off to run single. What was it like being at
Speaker 4: the stadium and especially in the clubhouse after that win?
Speaker 7: Uh so, because I had actually my mother and sister
Speaker 7: were at that game, and so my grand plan was
Speaker 7: like I'm going to like I was already kind of
Speaker 7: like had ahead of steam when working on my birth piece,
Speaker 7: so I was like, instead of normally I like see
Speaker 7: them and they sit down and then go back up
Speaker 7: like after an inning or two, I was like, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna try to finish this birth piece and they'll come
Speaker 7: down and watch like you know the ending with you, uh,
Speaker 7: put the camera in my pocket, put the recorder in
Speaker 7: my pocket, and then like was prepared to just like
Speaker 7: run out from the stairs.
Speaker 2: Seemed like a good play in until the seventh. Then
Speaker 2: things kind of flipped.
Speaker 7: Then it's being in the crowd as you know, they're
Speaker 7: basically bowing sir Anthony Dominga is off the field, and
Speaker 7: it's in that moment and I'm sure I would have
Speaker 7: had the thought in the press box too, but I'm like,
Speaker 7: you know, feeling the atmosphere of discontent towards this guy.
Speaker 2: You know, the impatience that credits to Socks fans.
Speaker 7: You know they've been beaten down, but they quickly transitioned
Speaker 7: to a team. The fans of a team that's competing
Speaker 7: for a division that is unhappy with their closer, and they're.
Speaker 2: Not like, oh, what still.
Speaker 7: Throwing or anything like that, like any of the thing
Speaker 7: that you would do about a rebuilding team, like you
Speaker 7: always still missing bats.
Speaker 2: You gotta have patience, progressions gonna come. No, They're they're
Speaker 2: discontent with this guy.
Speaker 7: It's like I'm texting in Jim, like feels like we
Speaker 7: need to pivot a little bit and you know, wind
Speaker 7: up writing like a whole separate story h that you know,
Speaker 7: maybe I could have worked out if I was already
Speaker 7: not downstairs, But yeah, I think that hit home and
Speaker 7: it was interesting, you know, postgam clubhouse, because you're talking
Speaker 7: to one Antonachi never gives you exactly like a brilliant
Speaker 7: guy like you know, a couple like he's not like
Speaker 7: just pure radiant joy type of postgame interview. I think
Speaker 7: their emotions, emotions on the field and his emotions in person,
Speaker 7: they're usually pretty bifurcated. So he's like one, he's trotting
Speaker 7: out that lie about like if you're bad about I
Speaker 7: just asked him, like, hey, what was the atmosphere in
Speaker 7: the dugout, and he's like launches in this thing that
Speaker 7: he clearly just wants to say about not getting down
Speaker 7: on sir Anthony or not, like you know, pointing fingers
Speaker 7: and saying like if you don't have if you don't you're.
Speaker 2: Not suited for a group sport. Go play tennis.
Speaker 7: I didn't realize that he had said that to Brooke
Speaker 7: on the field already because I'm wearing like an open
Speaker 7: like sweater with like this tennis shirt. I have t
Speaker 7: shirt that has like a tennis racket on its, Like,
Speaker 7: have I triggered Sam into thinking how much he hates
Speaker 7: individual sports or he's looking at me like you want
Speaker 7: to go somewhere else, go play tennis. Thankfully I was
Speaker 7: not the case, and he was kind of more give
Speaker 7: me a second draft of something he had already written
Speaker 7: in his head a little bit, which was a cool quote.
Speaker 7: I mean, I see people picking apart like how how
Speaker 7: would you not be mad with two runs? It's more
Speaker 7: just like standing up for your guy, right, talking about
Speaker 7: like how they have to be wired, you know, really
Speaker 7: obviously they had that need, that mindset to be able
Speaker 7: to come back in that game, so they lived up
Speaker 7: to it. But the raucousness of obviously that finish. I
Speaker 7: basically hugged my mother and sister while the play was
Speaker 7: being challenged and then got into the staircase and then
Speaker 7: once they confirmed it, like ran up the steps and
Speaker 7: got to got the post game. But we talked to
Speaker 7: Sir Anthony post game with that as well, like he
Speaker 7: was obviously relieved but still kind of frustrated. And then
Speaker 7: you know, I think probably more so than Detroit. It's
Speaker 7: just kind of saying like I obviously, I think a
Speaker 7: lot of the year has been you know, will benble
Speaker 7: saying he's our closer, Sir Anthony trying to you know,
Speaker 7: shrug off the troubles as much as he can, saying like, yo,
Speaker 7: this is one outing, or I may won by pitch
Speaker 7: and more, just like this is tough for me. I
Speaker 7: just blew back to back saves. Was kind of the
Speaker 7: way he attacked that. At the same time, like, I
Speaker 7: know he wants to be there and has certainly noticed
Speaker 7: that his usage is a little bit different. So it
Speaker 7: was a millannge of emotions in the post game clubhouse
Speaker 7: for sure. But it's kind of a weird series in
Speaker 7: terms of, you know, I think that I guess it
Speaker 7: was all one to run games in the end. It's
Speaker 7: a series where they're like saying, postgame, you know today Wednesday, gritschuck.
Speaker 7: It's like, we could have swept this series, and that's
Speaker 7: very true and the basis loads went out against the
Speaker 7: seemingly wayward Sean Armstrong same time, they could have easily
Speaker 7: gotten swept in the series with a few different hits.
Speaker 7: So it's I think it looked like a pretty equal
Speaker 7: matchup and definitely swung on some small things and I
Speaker 7: think maybe reaffirmed like the socks are in here, They're
Speaker 7: in this business there, They're going to be in this mix,
Speaker 7: and that's that's a credit to him. It doesn't seem
Speaker 7: like they quite have, at least in this non mirror
Speaker 7: COMI having portion that they're going to take off a
Speaker 7: blow away, you know, even a poser ra mirus less guardians.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I'm expecting a tight race in the second half,
Speaker 4: which is great. We aren't expecting any kind of race
Speaker 4: this season, Jim, so I will take it, but it
Speaker 4: will be nerve racking as we approach the halfway point
Speaker 4: of the season. We'll have our first half grades episode
Speaker 4: after Sunday's game against the Kinser Royal, so something to
Speaker 4: look forward to. We'll also be getting your guys' feedback
Speaker 4: or seeking it for those that follow us on social
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Speaker 4: Antonacci's walk off hit Jim is, that's a top ten
Speaker 4: win nominee for the season, right.
Speaker 8: I think I put both the best game and worst
Speaker 8: game tags on it. Sometimes a victory makes its way
Speaker 8: into the losses one just because it was such a
Speaker 8: mess and some failures were characteristic of the team shortcomings
Speaker 8: where even if they want it, they shouldn't have been
Speaker 8: in a position to win it like that in the
Speaker 8: first place, especially in back to back game.
Speaker 6: So we'll see how it shakes out.
Speaker 8: But in terms of moments, in terms of ant Nachi
Speaker 8: doing it, I was thinking, like going through the lineup,
Speaker 8: that he's the guy you want up in that situation.
Speaker 8: I think just in terms of you know, I'm thinking
Speaker 8: of the White Sox facing Luis a rise in the
Speaker 8: past or Stephen Kwan.
Speaker 6: Kwan was tough the series for him.
Speaker 8: But in the past, when Stephen Kwan is, if not
Speaker 8: in All Star like a very good player and you know,
Speaker 8: Gold Glove winner everything like that, Like just they might
Speaker 8: not be the most dangerous hitter on their team based
Speaker 8: on like you know, runs created or anything like that.
Speaker 8: But how do you pitch to him, how do you
Speaker 8: get him out? How do you get swing and miss
Speaker 8: when you really.
Speaker 6: Could use it.
Speaker 8: Somebody you can guide contact to the various parts of
Speaker 8: the field and go where pitches are throne.
Speaker 6: I was thinking, like, you.
Speaker 8: Know, Antonachi or Miguel Vargas are probably your two choices there,
Speaker 8: and given that was alrighty on the mound, given that
Speaker 8: Antonacci has strong platoon splits, Like I thought, yeah, it's
Speaker 8: he's although he's a rookie, he kind of fits that
Speaker 8: mold of the guy that you most want to see
Speaker 8: if you're a White Sox fan, and probably least want
Speaker 8: to see if you know Antonachi well as an opponents
Speaker 8: or a fan of an opponent, Like maybe he's just
Speaker 8: not on the radar yet, but I think he's that
Speaker 8: kind of skill set where, yeah, how do you pitch
Speaker 8: to him in that moment to where like you feel
Speaker 8: like you can get him out, not that he you know,
Speaker 8: he can get himself out or he can't get out,
Speaker 8: but just it's he's a hard It's just a hard
Speaker 8: guy to approach when you absolutely need an out. And
Speaker 8: so even saw that with the broken bat single like
Speaker 8: obviously should have been a routine ground out, but just
Speaker 8: because he can put the ball in play, because he
Speaker 8: can you know, face Alighty with comfort and you know,
Speaker 8: stand in on the plates.
Speaker 6: And get on base that way.
Speaker 8: But also that maybe change the way guys have to
Speaker 8: approach him. He can do a lot of damage when
Speaker 8: they have to come in the zone to him and
Speaker 8: The funny thing is like they didn't have to come
Speaker 8: to the zone to him, they had a base open,
Speaker 8: So that might be a benefit of him still being
Speaker 8: largely unfamiliar, or a rookie who isn't scary because he's
Speaker 8: got four homers this year, so he's not somebody who's,
Speaker 8: you know, causing pictures to tremble on the mound, but
Speaker 8: certainly has that bat to ball ability and I think
Speaker 8: a sense of the game to where, yeah, basically top
Speaker 8: two for guys you want up when you just need
Speaker 8: a single.
Speaker 4: And then on the flip side, Wednesday's lost, so to
Speaker 4: biggieback James Off, Randall Gridchick and his comments of how
Speaker 4: the team had an opportunity to sweep they sure did.
Speaker 4: I really thought we were to be talking about another
Speaker 4: big moment this season when Brady Montgomery and Randall Gridchick
Speaker 4: went back to back home run and consecutive bitches against
Speaker 4: Kate Smith, who leads the league in saves. I mean,
Speaker 4: Kate Smith has been the American League's best closer this season.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's on the same level of the
Speaker 4: type of season that Mason Miller is having for the
Speaker 4: San Diego Padres. But Kate Smith has definitely been pitching
Speaker 4: like an All Star this year, and the White Sox
Speaker 4: got to Smith twice in this series, and I think
Speaker 4: that is a great sign. But they weren't able to
Speaker 4: complete that comeback because they went zero for nine with
Speaker 4: runners in scoring position. You could read on how that
Speaker 4: went down on soxsmachine dot com as James had the
Speaker 4: game recap, and I sent out a tweet after the
Speaker 4: game about Chase my Draft and his stats with runners
Speaker 4: in scoring position, and I do want to apologize to
Speaker 4: Chase because I could understand at that time that's kind
Speaker 4: of piling on and what is probably a frustrating time
Speaker 4: for him. I have been noticing the game is getting
Speaker 4: to him Jim and James in the sense that he's
Speaker 4: batting more frequently in the middle of the order. But
Speaker 4: my Draft has played seventy six of the seventy nine
Speaker 4: games this season and he hasn't been getting that many breaks.
Speaker 4: And in his last fifteen games, Chase my Draft has
Speaker 4: been in a slump. He's batting two thirty two with
Speaker 4: a two to seventy one on base percentage. He's slugging
Speaker 4: three oh four and this is uncharacteristic of him, he
Speaker 4: struck out twenty one times to just one walk. So
Speaker 4: the fact that my draft has only walked once in
Speaker 4: his last fifteen games is a little bit bizarre for him.
Speaker 4: The strikeouts are really piling up, and unfortunately baseball is
Speaker 4: just cruel. Sometimes when you are cold, the game finds
Speaker 4: a way that you were at the plate with the
Speaker 4: game on the line, and unfortunately, with the bases loaded
Speaker 4: one out, three to one, hitting that week rounder to
Speaker 4: shortstop does not match anything that the White Sox have
Speaker 4: been preaching when it comes to hitting James. Is this
Speaker 4: something like? I know, Will Vennible was my full of
Speaker 4: Miguel Vargus and how much time that he's been playing,
Speaker 4: and gave Vargas most of that game off before using
Speaker 4: Vargas in a pitch hit situation. I have to imagine
Speaker 4: as we get closer to the All Star break, some
Speaker 4: of these regulars might be giving getting the day off
Speaker 4: just because they've been playing a lot.
Speaker 7: Well, their days off are limited that they're usually half
Speaker 7: days off. They're usually just like not starting a certain situation.
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, even Chase's current game count,
Speaker 7: you know, has some of that. He's started seventy three games,
Speaker 7: so he's had a couple of leaves half game off
Speaker 7: mixed in there. There's certain like fundamentally like I think
Speaker 7: more than like the runners in scoring position thing. For me,
Speaker 7: it's like it's a pretty significant platoon split with his
Speaker 7: damage been like very highly against righty's and certainly fifteen
Speaker 7: to one strike out the walk ratio is not that's
Speaker 7: that's bad for anyone. But they had been kind of
Speaker 7: allowing for like we're encouraging Chase, like take more shots,
Speaker 7: try to hit for a bit more slug We'll we'll
Speaker 7: take a little bit more contact for that and up
Speaker 7: you know, certainly through May that was kind of paying off.
Speaker 2: I think the but I think with the platoons, but
Speaker 2: thing like.
Speaker 7: Single year like runners and scoring position numbers for any
Speaker 7: individual are probably going.
Speaker 2: To be pretty very volatile, very violasile.
Speaker 7: The bigger thing is like if the platoons but hold
Speaker 7: like that's going to be the matchup he's gonna get
Speaker 7: late in games when like he comes up a cruse situation,
Speaker 7: so like that could wind up like cramping his runners
Speaker 7: in scoring position numbers a little bit. Uh So, Yeah,
Speaker 7: they gave him like a day off after like a
Speaker 7: bad game, I want to say, in the last road trip,
Speaker 7: and you know, it certainly looks like a little of
Speaker 7: whack of now and he certainly wanted to like play
Speaker 7: through nagging things. In a way, I'd still say like
Speaker 7: I'd expect him to be fine overall, rather than like
Speaker 7: this is some defining thing where you can't hit with
Speaker 7: runers in the scoring position, and certainly with the contact
Speaker 7: really showed in the past, you'd think like a recalibration
Speaker 7: from twenty five percent strike out right what he's at
Speaker 7: right now is possible. That said, like, yeah, he's definitely
Speaker 7: slowed down this month, and I think a little bit
Speaker 7: with grit Chick hitting the way he is and you know,
Speaker 7: breaking up down kind of be in everyday right field,
Speaker 7: you probably if Akuna is like showing a pulse that
Speaker 7: I think you have some options to sit him certainly
Speaker 7: against like right handed pitching, maybe a bit more often
Speaker 7: you were, or give him more days off where he
Speaker 7: doesn't have to be like a guy who basically plays
Speaker 7: every day. They have some alignments I think are viable
Speaker 7: with that, and especially would be true whenever or Comedy
Speaker 7: gets back. But if you're going to use if Gritchick
Speaker 7: is like more and more like hitting against right handers
Speaker 7: h and is someone that they're comfortable playing in left
Speaker 7: field a bit more often, like an alignment where like
Speaker 7: Ansonachi starts at second and Gritchick hold down left against
Speaker 7: a righty. If Chase is struggling, or just like I
Speaker 7: want to ratchet him down to maybe five games a
Speaker 7: week and se six like every single time. Yeah, that's
Speaker 7: a they could go down do eventually. That said, like,
Speaker 7: they love this guy a lot, and he's a huge
Speaker 7: part of like their team identity, and he's a good defender.
Speaker 7: So I don't think it'd be I'd be surprised they
Speaker 7: see something drastic unresponse to him struggling. And I also
Speaker 7: be surprised if it went on for like attracting aunt time. Like,
Speaker 7: I think my draws is solid, little layer and we'll
Speaker 7: probably figure it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and watch the next couple of months
Speaker 4: Jim with the runners in scoring position. My draft has
Speaker 4: a nine hundred OPS and he's just hitting singles all
Speaker 4: over the field. It's just that's something that I noticed,
Speaker 4: is he's been a little bit cold. So I apologize
Speaker 4: to Chase. I shouldn't have piled on there. I just
Speaker 4: tweeted that he has a five to seventy seven OPS
Speaker 4: with runners in scoring position. That was the tweet Chase,
Speaker 4: My draft is a five to seventy seven OPS with
Speaker 4: runners in scoring position. It's kind of taken off a
Speaker 4: lot of well, don't.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 8: What was the count on the retweets and the responses
Speaker 8: I had.
Speaker 4: Last I checked, It's over eighty likes. So I clearly
Speaker 4: hit a nerve with some White Sox fans who are like,
Speaker 4: don't worry Rock Schalowski in the second half. He's gonna
Speaker 4: replace Mike. Come on, let's be serious here. Uh So
Speaker 4: mydrath a little bit cold in the month of June.
Speaker 4: Hopefully that will get corrected. Who is hot in June
Speaker 4: for the White Sox offense Renal Gridchik I mean five
Speaker 4: home runs. His opius is over eleven hundred this month.
Speaker 4: Andrew Bennett Tendi thirteen RBIs leading the team this month.
Speaker 4: Antonachi's got a nine to thirty five. Oh yes, and
Speaker 4: Luis ahell Akunya has a three sixty seven average this
Speaker 4: month and six dolen bases. So let's go into that
Speaker 4: game situation on Wednesday, Jim, because this is also a
Speaker 4: sticking point that I'm seeing online so tenth inning run
Speaker 4: around second base, Akunya is batting and he lays down
Speaker 4: a bunt immediately to sacrifice bars from second to third base.
Speaker 4: There are some White Sox fans that are advocating that
Speaker 4: you should have let Luisa Helicunye swing away. He's been
Speaker 4: a hot bat. Let's see what he can do. Do
Speaker 4: the White Sox play it right with the sackbun uh.
Speaker 8: I would say, yeah, I get why they bunted, just
Speaker 8: because a lot of his contact goes.
Speaker 6: To the left side of the infield.
Speaker 8: So if you're looking to get a runner over, like
Speaker 8: I think his outs are most likely to be unproductive.
Speaker 6: If he makes an out, He's not somebody can drive
Speaker 6: the ball to right field.
Speaker 8: He doesn't easily go the other way with any authority.
Speaker 6: So if you absolutely need to get Vargas over.
Speaker 8: And you really want to set up multiple opportunities, like
Speaker 8: take advantage of being home and know exactly like how
Speaker 8: many runs you have to score to keep the game
Speaker 8: moving or get past it. Yeah, that's I think the
Speaker 8: reason why it is just he's he's improving, like he's
Speaker 8: been finding ways to make himself useful, but still the
Speaker 8: ground ball.
Speaker 6: Rate is pretty high.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's ground ball rate's nearly sixty percent and
Speaker 8: most of it is pulled.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of what you're looking at is if
Speaker 6: you don't.
Speaker 8: Trust Cleveland two laps on its in field alignment, then
Speaker 8: you're counting on like a single getting through to make
Speaker 8: something happen, and yeah, probably not going to happen based
Speaker 8: on just the odds.
Speaker 4: Well, for the White Sox, they're pitching a lot better
Speaker 4: against the Guardians, especially three key pitchers. We're gonna start
Speaker 4: with Sean Newcom James and that was a big save
Speaker 4: that he picked up on Tuesday and almost three inning
Speaker 4: save in a one run game. And his roll up
Speaker 4: with the White Sox has been flexible. He started that
Speaker 4: bullpend game against the Tigers was nails. Three scoreless innings.
Speaker 4: The White Sox don't know what to do. They don't
Speaker 4: know how to close out Tuesday's game because they pitched
Speaker 4: Grant Taylor and sy Anthony Domingus in back to back games.
Speaker 4: Sean Newcomb been nails. You've been kind of advocating for
Speaker 4: newcome to being the bullpen MVP for the White Sox
Speaker 4: so far halfway through this season, and I guess for
Speaker 4: White Sox fans, should we just continue to expect his
Speaker 4: role to be either you can call it flexible or unpredictable,
Speaker 4: that he's going to open sometimes and maybe now he'll
Speaker 4: get some save opportunities.
Speaker 7: Well, I think opening is more when they are missing
Speaker 7: a spot of the rotation. Like I think they mostly
Speaker 7: use their openers as kind of like the shorter guys
Speaker 7: in terms of usage, because they're supposed to give way.
Speaker 7: You know, Newcome is someone who turns the lineup over
Speaker 7: pretty much if you want him to. So like using
Speaker 7: someone like Heiser or Murphy or even Hudson is more like,
Speaker 7: let's get you through this top slate of righty. So
Speaker 7: if anything like Newcomb was probably just like he's started
Speaker 7: that bullpen game because he's like the closest thing to
Speaker 7: a starter in the bullpen. He's really got the arsenal.
Speaker 7: I think, like a small thing. Uh I noticed like
Speaker 7: him locking down the three and needs say he was
Speaker 7: like he kind of still works like a starter, Like
Speaker 7: he works like he he's like burly, like he works
Speaker 7: extremely quickly, Like the tension kind of had a hard
Speaker 7: time building and saved because he was just like getting
Speaker 7: in and throwing it so much like people in it,
Speaker 7: Like by the time people are getting in their feet
Speaker 7: the clap for ofstin the hedges, he's like two pitches
Speaker 7: into that at battle, right. So but I asked hill
Speaker 7: Vtable a little bit, especially on the heels of like
Speaker 7: the two kind of blow ups from Taylor and the Vengas,
Speaker 7: is that like to look at this, like, you know,
Speaker 7: to cut to the chase, Like they got four trusted
Speaker 7: leverage guys right now, like I could dither on like
Speaker 7: other options, and you know Chris Murphy's look good his
Speaker 7: last two times out. Yeah, they have four trusted guys
Speaker 7: right now. So if you're having like they use the
Speaker 7: three of them that are on the short of length
Speaker 7: in both Sunday and Monday, uh in pretty straightforward leverage opportunities.
Speaker 7: And Newcome's the one that floats around so asking because
Speaker 7: he could do multi innings. So in asking Venable, it's
Speaker 7: like if you're having two that are kind of on
Speaker 7: the fritz right now, And I think Grantal look pretty
Speaker 7: good on Wednesday, you know, even with the two soft
Speaker 7: singles that got through. So maybe not really him either,
Speaker 7: But if you have Dominga's struggling, do at some point
Speaker 7: you try to pull because they talked about it in
Speaker 7: the past and they had amusing a little bit. Do
Speaker 7: you pull Nukem from being like this fun tool we
Speaker 7: break out twice a week where he throws two innings
Speaker 7: or three innings back to working more often, but working
Speaker 7: maybe like an inning or you know, one plus sometimes
Speaker 7: and he's just available to you three four times a week.
Speaker 7: You could be part of that leverage mixed more traditionally.
Speaker 7: And the answer was kind of like, not really. And
Speaker 7: one of the things was is that that it was like,
Speaker 7: I think a sound strategy is that have our best
Speaker 7: pitchers pitched the most innings and right now is like
Speaker 7: the multi inning guy of the bullpen, like new Comb's
Speaker 7: on pace for ninety five to one hundred innings. Sure,
Speaker 7: you have him available more often and you feel like
Speaker 7: you have this tool in place when you really need
Speaker 7: a good inning.
Speaker 2: Pull him back.
Speaker 7: But the raw mat outside of the game to game
Speaker 7: situation says like this, the guy has been your best
Speaker 7: reliever and he's gonna throw twenty twenty five innings more
Speaker 7: than your other relievers based on how he's currently working.
Speaker 7: Does the leverage of those situations are having a bill
Speaker 7: for the eighth and ninth cancel out just the sheer
Speaker 7: volume he can give you. I don't know, And I
Speaker 7: also like there's only so many guys who can do
Speaker 7: what Newcome's doing, Like, I don't think it's suited well. Well,
Speaker 7: obviously none of us are advocating like two upstir Sir
Speaker 7: Anthony Diminga is on a regular basis right now, but
Speaker 7: like his arsenal and especially having like kind of the
Speaker 7: reverse platoon splits but still being like a big side
Speaker 7: armor against lefties really just like make them, I think,
Speaker 7: solve kind of problems in that longer role that the
Speaker 7: other guys can't as readily. Orgly says often too, where
Speaker 7: if you get a short start, if you have like
Speaker 7: a slate of lefties, but you also have like pin
Speaker 7: hitters who could come in the situation if you have
Speaker 7: a down bullpen day where you need somebody to like
Speaker 7: drag you to the ninth inning in some way that
Speaker 7: the others otherwise need to change two three guys together
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 2: I think he's a kind of a unique weapon that
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 7: Sound like venibles trying to change his usage in some way.
Speaker 4: Well, the other two bitching Stars for this series. Jim,
Speaker 4: Sean Burke, and Anthony K. Like, Sean Burke, that was
Speaker 4: not a fluke what we saw against the Yankees. He
Speaker 4: was able to duplicate his performance against the Guardians hold
Speaker 4: him to one run. Fantastic start for Sean Burke. Great
Speaker 4: to see. And Anthony K like, that's what's lost in
Speaker 4: Monday's crazy win. Anthony K was great, six scoreless innings
Speaker 4: for the White Sox. He deserved that win. Jim doesn't
Speaker 4: get it because of the bullpen chaos. But it's a
Speaker 4: good sign. We know the White Sox need to add
Speaker 4: another starter. Yes, this is like the sixth consecutive podcast.
Speaker 4: We know the White Sox need to add another starter.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be serious post trade deadline. But it's a
Speaker 4: good sign to see Anthony Kay and Sean Burke in
Speaker 4: a big series really step up their performances.
Speaker 8: Especially against bad offense, which Cleveland has like this month
Speaker 8: with Ramirez out with the latter out, it's a thinner
Speaker 8: offense really kind of lacking a centerpiece.
Speaker 4: So it sounds like they h Watson with the he
Speaker 4: hit against the White apparently, Yeah, just there's somebody emerges,
Speaker 4: but uh, a nailer emerges basically somehow.
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's the kind of thing where if Cleveland's
Speaker 8: offense is down, uh, White Sox pitchers should be able
Speaker 8: to step up, especially guys like Burke and k who
Speaker 8: are you know, I would say number four ist starters
Speaker 8: on the aggregate based on whether they look like they
Speaker 8: can go six innings or three in a third in
Speaker 8: a given game, which kind of happens a little bit
Speaker 8: too often has.
Speaker 6: In the past.
Speaker 8: But if they are facing an offense that is pitchable,
Speaker 8: they should be able to pitch to them and.
Speaker 6: The like they would they win six innings.
Speaker 8: So it kind of sounds like a NOx saying like, yeah,
Speaker 8: it was a bad offense, but it's the American League.
Speaker 6: It's a bad American league.
Speaker 8: Part of the reason why the White Sox are where
Speaker 8: they are is because the league isn't impressive, and a
Speaker 8: team like the White Sox that has some talent that
Speaker 8: isn't projecting well yet because they just don't have track
Speaker 8: records like this is their opportunity.
Speaker 6: To add losses to teams that weren't supposed to have them.
Speaker 8: So like when you have wins that are if not
Speaker 8: on the table at least there for the taking with
Speaker 8: an offense that's down in pitchers who are starting to
Speaker 8: find their form, Like yeah, find that form, like establish
Speaker 8: at form, reinforce it, and.
Speaker 6: They did well.
Speaker 4: It was a great series win for the White Sox.
Speaker 4: He had to have been nice if they had swept Cleveland,
Speaker 4: but they entered this series one game back at Cleveland.
Speaker 4: They leave this series tied with Cleveland on top of
Speaker 4: the American League Central and they continue their winning ways
Speaker 4: at home. So that is a good sign for the
Speaker 4: White Sox. And we'll be previewing the upcoming weekend series
Speaker 4: against the Kansas City Royals in a moment. But a
Speaker 4: couple of cap tips from this series. One to Brooke
Speaker 4: Fletcher for becoming the first woman to serve as a
Speaker 4: color analyst in the TV booth for the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 4: The Steve Stone I could not broadcast the last two games.
Speaker 4: That had to be incredibly tough. Brookie did an excellent
Speaker 4: job to come in cold and be like, well, Steve's
Speaker 4: not showing up. You wanna call a baseball game for listeners.
Speaker 4: Imagine for us to do an hour long podcast. Cold
Speaker 4: is tough. Try calling a baseball game with two teams
Speaker 4: buying for first place with very little preparation other than
Speaker 4: what you were doing to get ready as a sideline reporter.
Speaker 4: So that was incredibly impressive by Brooked Steppin in very
Speaker 4: short notice. Congratulations to Brookie did a great job.
Speaker 8: Especially on Charity's Night, just because there's so much stuff
Speaker 8: that they have to get to, so many things they
Speaker 8: have to promote, so many things to read and things
Speaker 8: to cut too, that there's already a lot in the
Speaker 8: plate and then have to weave in and out of
Speaker 8: like actual baseball analysis or react to what's going on.
Speaker 6: I can kind of tell here.
Speaker 8: And there just you know, Shriffing and Fletcher just talking
Speaker 8: over each other.
Speaker 6: But there's just so much to get to with Charities
Speaker 6: Nights that just I yeah, I would have been overwhelmed. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought she crushed it under the circumstances. And she
Speaker 4: knows baseball. I mean, come on, she's grown up in
Speaker 4: the gay everything for Brook Fletcher's Baseball. So good job, Brooke.
Speaker 4: And also a cap tip for White Sox Charities Week
Speaker 4: if you weren't tracking a lawn as far as the
Speaker 4: game on Tuesday, locked on socks from the one to
Speaker 4: eight Sox and thirty fifth participating in the T shirt battle,
Speaker 4: and they promoted a lot of the charity as far
Speaker 4: as the grants that they gave to a lot of
Speaker 4: the community centers throughout the South Side. It's one of
Speaker 4: the best parts of the Chicago White Sox organization with
Speaker 4: what Christine O'Reilly does and that entire team. As far
Speaker 4: as the community relations, it's one of the more fun things.
Speaker 4: As far as covering when we do have that media day,
Speaker 4: James and I got a chance to visit that Boys
Speaker 4: and Girls Club and to see in person all of
Speaker 4: the upgrades of the White Sox were able to provide
Speaker 4: for those kids in Bridgeports. So always a cap tip
Speaker 4: to the White Sox Charities teams. You guys do a
Speaker 4: great job. Howard, my dad was t boned by a
Speaker 4: utility vehicle.
Speaker 5: What should I do?
Speaker 2: Ink?
Speaker 1: And law is injury law made personal if you've been
Speaker 1: heard at work in a car accident or suffered a
Speaker 1: medical mistake called three one, two six million.
Speaker 4: Now the Chicago White Sox have Thursday off and here
Speaker 4: come the Kansas City Royals this weekend.
Speaker 6: The Royals are.
Speaker 4: Thirty four and forty seven, their last place in the
Speaker 4: American League Central. They are currently eight games behind the
Speaker 4: Chicago White Sox and the Division that will never get
Speaker 4: old this season, they lost their last game. The Rows
Speaker 4: have been playing better baseballs of late. They are six
Speaker 4: and four in their last ten and just like the
Speaker 4: White Sox, they are struggling on the road, identical road
Speaker 4: record as the White Sox. They are fifteen to twenty
Speaker 4: five this year away from Kaufman. The season series, the
Speaker 4: White Sox currently lead five games to two, so the
Speaker 4: White Sox win this series. They win the season series
Speaker 4: against Kansas City That won't get old either. You're pitching
Speaker 4: problems for this weekend. Kansas City has no clue who
Speaker 4: is starting any of these games. They are to be determined,
Speaker 4: so that's going to be a storyline of what the
Speaker 4: Broyles have planned for the White Sox. But on Friday
Speaker 4: night six forty pm Central Time, this is Illinois State
Speaker 4: University Night and also the postgame concert with DJ Marshmallow,
Speaker 4: will find out what who the White Sox are possibly
Speaker 4: start on a Friday from James in a Moment. Saturday
Speaker 4: afternoon three ten pm Central time start. This is the
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty three reunion. It's also the America's two hundred
Speaker 4: and fiftieth Birthday shirt, so first fifteen thousand fans get
Speaker 4: a free T shirt. It'll be the Dark Davis Martin
Speaker 4: taking the ball for the White Sox. And then on
Speaker 4: Sunday it's Nickelodeon Day on Kids' Day, it's also World
Speaker 4: Baseball Classic Kyle Teal bobblehead. I do have to remind
Speaker 4: folks if you want this bobblehead, it is a separate ticket.
Speaker 4: Go to White Sox dot com to purchase that separate
Speaker 4: ticket to get the bobblehead. Anthony Kay, We'll be making
Speaker 4: that start for the White Sox on Sunday, and as
Speaker 4: I mentioned early in the show, after the series against
Speaker 4: the Royals, we will be giving out our mid season grade,
Speaker 4: so that'll be our next episode. James Vegan, what is
Speaker 4: going on for the White Sox on Friday Night when
Speaker 4: it comes to the pitching. Is this another Bullpendey or
Speaker 4: could we see a call up?
Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of science pointed at being
Speaker 7: David Samlin. He was lined up the pitch on Friday
Speaker 7: and Charlotte and now is not. They Will Fennible said
Speaker 7: that they felt like they were more likely to use
Speaker 7: a starter in that slot than go another bullpen day.
Speaker 7: He said when they did the bullpen day, he didn't
Speaker 7: want to keep doing bullpendes. It obviously led to them
Speaker 7: being very stretched in this series, having to used Sean
Speaker 7: Newcomb and then having to use Sean nuklem Ugen in
Speaker 7: a way that Sean Newcomb certainly reflected was probably stretching
Speaker 7: them a little bit above and beyond with what he
Speaker 7: had to do.
Speaker 2: So Sandlin's beyond the fifteen days. Everything lines up.
Speaker 7: You know, they're being quiet about it, but certainly like
Speaker 7: no other alternatives have really been offered.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 7: You know, Schultz needs one more rehab us start this weekend.
Speaker 7: Mason Adams literally just pitched while we were talking, or
Speaker 7: you know, a couple hours before.
Speaker 2: So that's not an option.
Speaker 7: I think it's it's hard to see what would otherwise,
Speaker 7: you know, kind of really take hold.
Speaker 2: But you know, I maybe.
Speaker 7: They're hoping for another rain out to kick their decisions down. Also,
Speaker 7: they slated Martin and Kay, who they could have moved
Speaker 7: up to Friday, given the off day to still get
Speaker 7: their regular rests at all. Just seems very setting up
Speaker 7: to bring up a starter, and yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: All right, so we can see David Sandlin.
Speaker 8: Sandlin's thrown five and six innings and his two starts since,
Speaker 8: so he's kind of stretched out to.
Speaker 7: Where there's some like feeling like, all right, maybe we
Speaker 7: give this guy was like just getting down with his
Speaker 7: rehab and so now they feel like they gave him
Speaker 7: a full more a few more full starts under his belt.
Speaker 2: So it all seems like all seems like it should
Speaker 2: line up for that.
Speaker 4: If you visit socksmachine dot com daily, you know that
Speaker 4: Jim writes up the minor keys and recapping all the
Speaker 4: action down to the minor league of the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Mason Adams is a name that he continues to pop up,
Speaker 4: Jim and just with how well that he's been throwing
Speaker 4: I didn't see and how he threw today for the
Speaker 4: Charlotte Knights. But the White Sox needs some help on
Speaker 4: the starting pitching front. Mason Adams popular name last year.
Speaker 4: Could he be making a start for the White Sox soon?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he threw five shutout innings again U Charlott's in
Speaker 8: Charlotte against Rochester, first place team.
Speaker 6: So that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 8: Both yep terms of environment and opponents. And yeah, he's
Speaker 8: always been extreme command oriented pitcher, kitchen sink pitcher, and
Speaker 8: the worry when he had Tommy John surgery was one
Speaker 8: can't really afford to lose velocity come back with anything
Speaker 8: diminished because he kind of like sits ninety one. So
Speaker 8: if he's sitting ninety all of a sudden like that
Speaker 8: thins his margin for air. And then if he has
Speaker 8: the typical command issues for somebody coming back from Tommy
Speaker 8: John surgery, like, yep, he could pitch past that, but
Speaker 8: you might take him whild to where like you can't
Speaker 8: necessarily count on him.
Speaker 6: Stuffing his way past these command.
Speaker 8: Lapses in his first year back, So I was expecting
Speaker 8: a conservative timetable for him. I was thinking, like, you know,
Speaker 8: Drew Thorpe might be back ahead of him, and even
Speaker 8: Kai Bush because you know, depending on how Bush's stuff looks,
Speaker 8: you're coming back.
Speaker 6: But both of.
Speaker 8: Them have had setbacks and Adams has been on schedule,
Speaker 8: and then like, yeah, he's not walking, guys, He's missing
Speaker 8: bats kind of as well as he can. The fastball
Speaker 8: seems to have gained a little bit since his last
Speaker 8: days in Charlotte's before the surgery, when he was kind
Speaker 8: of dealing with the back issue coming back from that,
Speaker 8: So perhaps he'd been down a little bit before that,
Speaker 8: and you know, getting surgery and resting the other injury,
Speaker 8: you allowed him to get stuff back. But yeah, he's
Speaker 8: looks like he's in line for an audition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's his velocity now? Then it's been like.
Speaker 8: Ninety two, So which is what you're gonna get from him.
Speaker 8: It's a case where he was always a third day
Speaker 8: draft pick. Undersized. He's not imposing in any way until
Speaker 8: you see him pitch, and then it's just a matter
Speaker 8: of like he's just getting guys out and getting up
Speaker 8: pretty quickly to where it's you know, twelve pitch inning,
Speaker 8: fourteen pitch inning, nine pitch inning, and then he's just
Speaker 8: cruising through.
Speaker 6: So major league hitters could expose that or maybe not.
Speaker 8: Maybe he'll be useful, or maybe he'll be one of
Speaker 8: those guys who evens out to like a four or
Speaker 8: fifty er or something like that, but kind of a
Speaker 8: watchable one, a guy you don't mind having the fifth
Speaker 8: spot in rotation. So yeah, worthy in audition, looking forward
Speaker 8: to seeing it happen when it happens.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, again, this is the final weekend of
Speaker 4: the first half. Of the season. Of course, some will say, well,
Speaker 4: the first half's not to the All Star break, but
Speaker 4: then you're already passed ninety games. The White Sox will
Speaker 4: be entering Game eighty one over the weekend against the
Speaker 4: Royals Gym on Sunday, one of my favorite annual traditions
Speaker 4: on socks machine double up posts. So he'll be gathering
Speaker 4: all the numbers from the first half and what guys
Speaker 4: are on pace for in the twenty twenty six season.
Speaker 4: This year's gonna be a lot of fun. So I
Speaker 4: can't wait to read that post. But the last thing
Speaker 4: we'll touch on in this episode, who needs a big
Speaker 4: weekend to finish the first half? Strow Jim, I'll start
Speaker 4: with you. Who needs a big Who needs a big
Speaker 4: weekend for the White Sox.
Speaker 6: Feels like my draft recently. I think you O'tel is
Speaker 6: still working his way back.
Speaker 8: To where you don't know exactly what his final form
Speaker 8: is going to be. This year, a Kunya has turned
Speaker 8: around to where he like he's a nice component on
Speaker 8: the bench. You know, Jacob Gonzalez might be one based
Speaker 8: on his slump, although he had a couple of hits
Speaker 8: at least the curse of Keith Law or the weight
Speaker 8: of Keith Law's expectations, uh crushing him after getting the
Speaker 8: the raves that White Sox fans don't associate with Keith
Speaker 8: Law discussing a White Sox prospect and he goes like
Speaker 8: over twenty five or something like that.
Speaker 6: It's it's great, just poetry like that.
Speaker 8: But yeah, otherwise, like it's a pretty deep lineup where
Speaker 8: the guys who are not doing it are either rookies
Speaker 8: or coming back injury to where.
Speaker 6: They don't need the weeknd.
Speaker 8: So I'd just just say, like my draft for just
Speaker 8: the strikeout rate.
Speaker 4: How about you, James, is there anyone that comes to
Speaker 4: mind that you would like to see him a big
Speaker 4: weekend to finish the first half strong?
Speaker 7: I would like to interview a winning or you know,
Speaker 7: blocking out to say, Sir Anthony Diminga's post game. He's
Speaker 7: had to wear a lot of losing close their post games,
Speaker 7: and I think it'd be nice to tilt the balance.
Speaker 2: That was definitely why we kind of wanted to wait.
Speaker 7: Out Sean Newcombe the other night to you know, give
Speaker 7: her leavers they're shining when they do well because they
Speaker 7: often have to face the music when they're struggling. Like
Speaker 7: the absurdity of talking to Grant Taylor the other day
Speaker 7: about like him struggling when you know he's been melting
Speaker 7: faces for most of the last like two and a
Speaker 7: half months. Yeah, he've been said, like, it's really been
Speaker 7: five good months up until this for my career. So
Speaker 7: but Sir, Anthony MnGa is someone who won just watching
Speaker 7: him get booed off the field the other night, but
Speaker 7: you know, is someone who's certainly juggling a lot in
Speaker 7: terms of venomal clearly does not use closers in a
Speaker 7: way that I think, like any closer would think like,
Speaker 7: this is what my job is going to look like
Speaker 7: as a closer. So I think like, even if people
Speaker 7: don't want to hear it from him when he's you know,
Speaker 7: struggling as the way he is, like, I think there's
Speaker 7: room for him to say that it was surprising to
Speaker 7: him even and I think he said it professionally at
Speaker 7: the same time, like he's also had to talk about
Speaker 7: like he's just not throwing strikes, he's not getting a
Speaker 7: head of hitters.
Speaker 2: I feel like this stuff is kind of there.
Speaker 7: So he kind of identified something mechanically after the Milwaukee
Speaker 7: outing at the start of the season and the like
Speaker 7: had some good outings after that, seemingly could do that again.
Speaker 7: The fact that it's you know, kind of getting pretty
Speaker 7: loosey goosey command wise multiple times the season obviously isn't
Speaker 7: good and you know we walked at this rate last year,
Speaker 7: so you wonder how much they can have it. In
Speaker 7: that said, like, he's been good. He's been an effective
Speaker 7: lever for you. If he isn't, like established clothes are good.
Speaker 7: All the good news is that bull veedibles, you know,
Speaker 7: clearly obviously throwing Brent Taylor or what he actually thinks
Speaker 7: is the most dangerous leverage spot in every game anyway.
Speaker 7: So getting Anthony back to just what Sir Anthony and
Speaker 7: Mingos is in for a long time, I think we'll
Speaker 7: be perfectly fine for this bull Ben setup, and you
Speaker 7: know it, it'd be nice to see him get to
Speaker 7: enjoy that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a clean inning for Sir Anthony Diminguz this weekend
Speaker 4: would do everyone good, the White Sox, Sir Anthony White
Speaker 4: Sox fans, I think that's a great call. James mind
Speaker 4: is Jacob Gonzales. He got a couple of hits on Wednesday,
Speaker 4: but he was like in a oh for twenty eight slump.
Speaker 4: He's going through a lot and he's trying to learn
Speaker 4: how to hit major league bitching, also try to learn
Speaker 4: on how to play major league first base. A lot's
Speaker 4: been thrown at Jacob Gonzalez to trying to fill in
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Speaker 4: Munda Tako Murakami is rejoined the White Sox. With that
Speaker 4: being said, it's gonna be a lot of Jacob Gonzales.
Speaker 4: It's still gonna be a lot of Michel Vargas at first.
Speaker 4: It'd be great if Jacob Gonzalez could have a strong
Speaker 4: weekend against the Royals before we enter the first half.
Speaker 4: Fun series for the White Sox, great series win for them.
Speaker 4: Let's see how this weekend goes. But that will do
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