Speaker 1: And I got that from method Man. His method Man
Speaker 1: was the king of rocking unorthodox headwear, like using a
Speaker 1: paper towel as a headband, and shit, I thought that
Speaker 1: was the coolest. Shit.
Speaker 2: Paper towel is a headband pressed me so much.
Speaker 1: Jo You would take like along like from a public
Speaker 1: bathroom paper towel, like maybe like two and a half
Speaker 1: feet long, and fold it over so it's like this
Speaker 1: thick and then put that on like that, tie it up. Boom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, MTV cribs and ODB antics kind of like maybe
Speaker 3: being as trash as possible while living a luxurious life.
Speaker 1: It's like the best form of anything as a kid.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it was like blank check that Disney movie,
Speaker 3: Like that's that's what I thought being an adult would
Speaker 3: be like if you have isn't there a.
Speaker 1: Scene where a grown woman kisses that young boy?
Speaker 2: Probably it's probably problematic.
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I saw it as like an eight year old and
Speaker 3: then locked it in as like an aspirational goal and
Speaker 3: then and and then never saw it again.
Speaker 2: So I should date more grown women, not that.
Speaker 1: You know what, or just like I remember that movie
Speaker 1: had me thinking like literally, if you found a blank check,
Speaker 1: it's over for the person who had the check. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that you could do like
Speaker 1: three billion dollars, asshole, this fuck.
Speaker 2: That'll be three billion, thank you. Yeah, and your ma
Speaker 2: jet for the rest of you.
Speaker 4: Like a blank check of a bank account that only
Speaker 4: has like eleven dollars. Yeah, those people's banks accounts, Like.
Speaker 1: You're like this, ooh, you fucked up. They're like you've overdrafted.
Speaker 4: Oh damn, I'll put fifty one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll bring it down three million. No, No,
Speaker 1: I could get forty two cents. Basically, That's where.
Speaker 2: I learned all my financial literacy from. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: such a financial genius.
Speaker 1: Is that blank check? Like you just keep telling your wife, babe,
Speaker 1: once I find one of those blank checks.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Were that and the uh Danny Boyle movie where
Speaker 2: the kids find a big bag of money? Those are
Speaker 2: my two financial plans.
Speaker 1: Playing check or come upon bags of cash.
Speaker 2: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three forty one,
Speaker 2: Episode four of der DAILY'SAI Guys Say production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 2: into America's cheric consciousness. It's Thursday, June sixth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's takes Day. You got two four? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: National Higher Education Day, National Gardening Exercise Day, Hey do
Speaker 1: some gardening exercise? National drive in movie Day? Remember those
Speaker 1: National Apple Sauce Cake Day. Never had that National Yo
Speaker 1: Yo Day, National eyewear Day. And of course it's the
Speaker 1: fucking what does it not? Eightieth Anniversary of the D
Speaker 1: Day Invasion Normandy and World War Two? June sixth. You
Speaker 1: know this is I was reading an interesting piece about
Speaker 1: how after the Cold War ended like, we as Americans
Speaker 1: went big on D Day to be like and this
Speaker 1: is why we fight the like. There are good wars
Speaker 1: still and look, obviously many people lost their lives fighting fascism.
Speaker 1: That's a huge thing. But also it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: how much we take these kinds of moments to be like.
Speaker 1: And that's why we're the people that got to police
Speaker 1: the war, because if not, it would be hi.
Speaker 2: We're the good guys by default. The next eight hundred years,
Speaker 2: we're one tenth of the way through.
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe the next five it might, it might happen,
Speaker 1: It might happen Quicker than you you can.
Speaker 2: You can realize we have a d Day anecdote in
Speaker 2: one of the stories on Today's Duck. We'll see if
Speaker 2: we get to it. Where's really too it's the goldfish
Speaker 2: one anyways. Uh my name is Jack O'Brien aka lift
Speaker 2: me up before you go go if they aren't swollen,
Speaker 2: and then that's an no. No limph me up before
Speaker 2: you go go and let me ogle them nodes. That
Speaker 2: is courtesy of we'ren the wear Bear on the Discord
Speaker 2: in reference to me getting hornie for miles of plump
Speaker 2: lymph nodes.
Speaker 1: They're going down, Babe. You know that's right, Joy, I
Speaker 1: should have enjoyed them while they lasted, although I'm still contested.
Speaker 1: Oh I did, oh, I did draw me like one
Speaker 1: of your French girls.
Speaker 2: Also, I want to give credit the ninety nine poop
Speaker 2: balloons aka Yesterday was a collaboration between you current do
Speaker 2: that on television who I mentioned, but also.
Speaker 1: Charlie's a the originally Charlie x Oh is that the
Speaker 1: Toxic Celtics fan listen the Boosty's Discord service? Is it
Speaker 1: Charlie Big? So that's you, you Big Celtics.
Speaker 2: Never mind, I take it last credit, dude, A good one, bro.
Speaker 2: We're thrilled. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by
Speaker 2: my co mister Miles grat It's.
Speaker 1: Miles Gray AKA, and I would wait six point eight
Speaker 1: weeks to dress up to go trick or treat. I
Speaker 1: don't get how you get six point eight weeks because
Speaker 1: it's apposed to be seventeen. I don't get it. Don't
Speaker 1: get don't get it, don't get I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Get this stupid shit.
Speaker 1: Shout out peanut, Buddy Brown. Because I'm still I've had
Speaker 1: people say I had my brother in law text me.
Speaker 1: He's like, I was listening to the show. Here's my theory.
Speaker 2: I need you.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I need to shut the fuck up
Speaker 1: about this before I lose all respect for you. But
Speaker 1: he was also thinking, He's like, people constantly misremember the
Speaker 1: bookend summer holidays, Memorial Day and Labor Day.
Speaker 2: That was my initial thuck.
Speaker 1: But my thing is, where the fuck are the sports
Speaker 1: of July come into it? Wait?
Speaker 2: Is maybe maybe Labor Day is six point eight weeks
Speaker 2: from all hallo z.
Speaker 1: The days between Halloween and Labor Day. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know how any of this works, to be.
Speaker 2: Honest, So how many days until Halloween.
Speaker 4: Yeah day, Sorry to jump in, but yeah, I just please,
Speaker 4: Labor Day is the beginning of September and October. September
Speaker 4: Halloween is the end of October, like two months essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, weeks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that. Ain't six point eight again?
Speaker 2: Six point eight?
Speaker 1: It's fucking nonsense.
Speaker 4: What the fall?
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that I have to keep bringing this up.
Speaker 1: But another theory dusted. You're wrong, mild, but I got
Speaker 1: a date calculator. Look, everybody's just trying to make sense
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: It's the paragraph in an eminem's press release that we
Speaker 2: just can't make sense of.
Speaker 4: Caitlin, Oh okay, I was wondering what this it's.
Speaker 1: Fifty nine days?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we don't. We just you jump right into
Speaker 2: the deep end on this one. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, not buying it. A month and twenty
Speaker 1: nine days still is not enough. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Well, while Miles is over there puzzling, just with clouds
Speaker 2: of numbers swirling around his head like in a beautiful mind?
Speaker 2: Does that happen in a beautiful mind? Or is that
Speaker 2: like a false memory?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Do they do actual numbers around his head? Oh that's
Speaker 2: a little that's just that feels a little stupid for that,
Speaker 2: but even for that.
Speaker 4: Movie corn of your movie then.
Speaker 2: You remember, yeah, yeah, exactly, we let him get away
Speaker 2: with any anything back then.
Speaker 1: Wait, it is, isn't it the one that has like
Speaker 1: there's that meme with like the Confused Lady. But isn't
Speaker 1: that like that's like a meme from like a Brazilian show,
Speaker 1: Like there's like a you know, the meme where it's
Speaker 1: like the white woman and there's like all these like
Speaker 1: fucking geometric shapes around to.
Speaker 2: Be like oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, math Lady. I think it's called math Lady.
Speaker 2: H Hey, we are thrilled, Miles to be joined in
Speaker 2: our third seat by a very talented writer, stand up comedian,
Speaker 2: podcast host of Oh Shit, Now I Get It, The
Speaker 2: Bechdel Cast, which takes down the patriarch one movie at
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 4: They all Jack, by the way, you're the only I
Speaker 4: feel like no one ever refers to the Bechdel Cast
Speaker 4: in that way. I know, it's like never, It's like
Speaker 4: not on any I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just made that up at some point and I
Speaker 2: was like, this is good. They're gonna want me to
Speaker 2: keep bringing this up over and over like it's their
Speaker 2: catchphrase that they came up with.
Speaker 4: I think at some point when we were like joining
Speaker 4: the network, it was like, we need a tagline. Came
Speaker 4: up with it, and that's I think I came up
Speaker 4: with it. How dare you not?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, I am very good.
Speaker 4: But then we never used it again, like Jamie or
Speaker 4: like and but you're like, this is it? This is
Speaker 4: I'm gonna is it?
Speaker 1: Cut to crickets.
Speaker 2: You're walking down the street. I just drive by Durante
Speaker 2: taking out the patriarchy one movie at a time, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you me, the fun is that, Caitlin, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, just keep walking anyways. I just it's a good catphrase.
Speaker 4: I wrote it.
Speaker 2: Yea also happened to have a master's degree in film.
Speaker 4: You also, I don't like to mention it, but.
Speaker 2: You hate to mention that, And you're gonna now do
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes on how I keep bringing that
Speaker 2: up and you refuse to ever talk about it. Also,
Speaker 2: the most anagrammable name in the English language, possibly.
Speaker 4: So when you know other people have numbers and mass
Speaker 4: symbols floating around their head, I've got letters.
Speaker 2: Of my name, don't.
Speaker 1: Niles.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. Do you have any new ones? Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: we've really depleted the options, I fear.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now it's like breaking it down into like like
Speaker 1: two regular words and then like two nonsensical words.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just see what else we got here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now I'm trying to do one on the fly. Like,
Speaker 2: there's definitely urinated is in there?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Have we done that before?
Speaker 4: There's definitely urine. One of one of the ones I've
Speaker 4: come up with has urine, but amazing urinated.
Speaker 1: Nature cat in lid uh huh in lid in neutral.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 4: There are new ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, details waiting to be discovered. Caitlin, it's wonderful to
Speaker 2: have you back on the show.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: L net cat India.
Speaker 2: That's the new worldwide protocol for Yeah, it's a webe
Speaker 2: web far Yeah yeah. All right, Well we're going to
Speaker 2: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 2: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 2: things that we're talking about today. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the candidate from Missouri, Valentina Gomez, who keeps calling
Speaker 2: everything in America weekend gay and recently got fired. Nope,
Speaker 2: actually fired the company. Y yeah, fired, Yeah, just so
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so we'll talk about just what the
Speaker 2: Republican Party is doing with Pride months. We might even
Speaker 2: get to we'll definitely get to Goldfish crackers, it being
Speaker 2: a National D Day Day. Well, we got to get
Speaker 2: to the goldfish crackers story because they have introduced spicy
Speaker 2: pickle flavor for some reason. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 2: had a spicy dill pickle in my life. I've had
Speaker 2: spicy sweet pickles, but they have specified spicy dill pickle.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm either never had a spicy dill
Speaker 2: pickle or I've had one and don't remember it. And
Speaker 2: in many ways, that is the most devastating thing I
Speaker 2: can say about a pickle.
Speaker 1: Mm is that have you ever played? Have you ever
Speaker 1: let's think, have you ever thought that spicy dell pickles
Speaker 1: is for me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's a Kendrick reference. Yeah, I'm I've had spicy dill pickles.
Speaker 1: There's one's called like Devil's spit that I get.
Speaker 2: That's a damn dog that sounds tough as hell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that reminds me of the Shrek's piss. Drink I
Speaker 4: made recently.
Speaker 1: Oh, go on, tell is it just something you called
Speaker 1: it that?
Speaker 4: Or there was a recipe on someone's Instagram page and
Speaker 4: my friend sent it to me and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do promo for what at the time
Speaker 4: was the upcoming Bechtel cast Shrek tannec tour. It has
Speaker 4: since past, but I was like, oh, what if I
Speaker 4: make a video of me mixing this wondrous cocktail that
Speaker 4: is Shrek's piss and and it was disgusting.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's a clever name. It's not just a
Speaker 1: clever name the same.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like madori, which is green, and then like
Speaker 4: apple Pucker, which is green green ship it's like mostly
Speaker 4: green liqueur, and then you add in some like lime
Speaker 4: juice and some other kind of mixery type stuff. But
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it was way too
Speaker 4: sweet and tasted pretty nasty.
Speaker 1: Holy yea, I haven't thought about midori in fucking like decades.
Speaker 4: Well, welcome back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not need that, all right, Well.
Speaker 2: Heylen, I just showed Shrek to my kids. The the
Speaker 2: first Trek a huge hit, A huge hit, the first Shrek,
Speaker 2: the second Shrek. Did I don't. We stopped watching after
Speaker 2: the first one many minutes, but it seemed like a
Speaker 2: giant drop off.
Speaker 4: Because that's a period film, it starts out a little shitty.
Speaker 4: I'm okay, but we just need you just need to
Speaker 4: let Puss and Boots get on screen.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you just need to let Shrek to breathe
Speaker 2: like a fine bottle of Shreks.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of you watching it with your
Speaker 1: young kids, like dad, this is like boring. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: Shrek cook Man. Let them. Let wait till Puss get
Speaker 1: in the picture. Bro, it can be completely different. Let
Speaker 1: him cook.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any memory of it, so I didn't
Speaker 2: know what what we were waiting for. But now I do,
Speaker 2: and I have some enjoyable film viewing to look forward to. Nice.
Speaker 2: But before we get to all the all those news stories, Caitlin,
Speaker 2: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 2: from your search history that is revealing about who you are.
Speaker 4: It's another Shrek thing. I'm not even joking. Get string down.
Speaker 4: It is Shrek rave l A. I googled it because
Speaker 4: people keep talking about these Shrek raves. So a Shrek
Speaker 4: rave is a thing. It's an event you buy a
Speaker 4: ticket for it. You go dressed up as a Shrek
Speaker 4: character and you just rave all night long.
Speaker 1: Yo, it's fucking tomorrow.
Speaker 4: It's tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you gonna go tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Friday, June seventh, Yes.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 4: Would palladium. I Well, the thing is, I don't have
Speaker 4: anything to wear, so I could maybe try to cobble
Speaker 4: something together last minute, but right now I don't have
Speaker 4: the appropriate.
Speaker 1: Oh, like, you have to pull up in Shrek regalia.
Speaker 4: Everyone else is, so I'm also want to be some outsider,
Speaker 4: some loser who's not participating.
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
Speaker 4: You gotta come correct with your Shrek outfit. So people
Speaker 4: do like switch sticks. They're like, dude, win your tickets
Speaker 4: to Shrek Rave.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow, now I know what me and my
Speaker 2: kids are doing this weekend.
Speaker 1: Take your kids do a rave, you do like a
Speaker 1: full on even if it is Shrek, they're gonna end
Speaker 1: up seeing Inevitably, there's always people at a rave that
Speaker 1: did too much ecstasy and are sitting down crying somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never been to a rave, how much less.
Speaker 1: There's always a Yeah, there's always a couple, like a
Speaker 1: shirtless dude and a scantily clad, like girlfriend who's raved
Speaker 1: out and then they're having a big fight. They're just
Speaker 1: all these tropes you have at raves. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it is good people watching for the kids.
Speaker 2: Far to kids for the kids. You know, what is
Speaker 2: something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Dating without intention, which is something I've been doing quite
Speaker 4: a lot, and it's just it takes a lot of
Speaker 4: the pressure off of dating. Well, I'm not out here
Speaker 4: trying to find anything. In particular, I'm not going in
Speaker 4: with much in the way of expectations. And part of
Speaker 4: that is because the bar for male behavior is low.
Speaker 4: But you know, I go in with the expectation that
Speaker 4: I'll be like treated well and stuff. But I it's
Speaker 4: bleak out there. Let me tell you, ye, dating is
Speaker 4: maybe bleaker than ever. But I'm just like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I don't really has that helped.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, are you saying so the intent being
Speaker 1: I don't need to I don't have to go into
Speaker 1: this saying like every day I go on is to
Speaker 1: potentially find the person who I can have like a
Speaker 1: meaningful long term relationship. You're sort of switching gears, so
Speaker 1: like I'm meeting people I don't really expect shit, and
Speaker 1: if I meet somebody that's cool, that's a bonus.
Speaker 4: Exactly, yes, got it. So not that I'm like very
Speaker 4: like oriented toward uh finding like a long term monogamous
Speaker 4: relationship like that isn't super my thing anyway, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe one day I'd like to have some kind of companionship.
Speaker 4: But now you ever, like, well, mister Wright, I'm afraid
Speaker 4: doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: So I'm just like, you're truly shrek brained. You're not
Speaker 2: waiting for Prince Charming. You're waiting. It's treck.
Speaker 4: And that that is an expectation. But I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just sort of like I'm gonna just have a
Speaker 4: night where I'm not sitting at home by myself and
Speaker 4: I'm you know, meeting a new person and it'll probably
Speaker 4: go anywhere from mediocre to badly, but it's a way
Speaker 4: to pass the time. So that's how I work dating. Dating, Yeah,
Speaker 4: pretty much?
Speaker 1: Right, right? Right? What's a non shitty date? Look likely
Speaker 1: not to say stellar, but just not shit.
Speaker 4: I mean someone who can carry a conversation and who
Speaker 4: I don't end up arguing with. Because the past few
Speaker 4: dates I've been on, I have like gotten in a
Speaker 4: fight with them, and like a date I went on recently,
Speaker 4: he was like carrying on about how it's pointless to protest,
Speaker 4: and he was specifically talking about like pro Palestine protests,
Speaker 4: and I was like, what the fuck are you talking about,
Speaker 4: And he was like annoyed at the like effects of protests,
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, people are trying to get places
Speaker 4: and they're blocking stuff off. And I'm like, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: the point is to disrupt like the status quo and
Speaker 4: get people to notice and pay attention and do something
Speaker 4: about it. He was just like, it's just annoying. And
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, well I have to leave now.
Speaker 4: I hate you and I never want to see you again.
Speaker 2: Kiln is currently like seconds from punching this person in
Speaker 2: the note just based on the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love it. It got very heated, so yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean I get it. Yeah, it's fucking wild, like, especially
Speaker 1: when you're looking for someone to potentially like relate to
Speaker 1: that they're so far off with something where they're like
Speaker 1: honestly like people being up in arms over a genocidal
Speaker 1: campaign happening someplaces, not even here, Like it's annoying, and
Speaker 1: if you're like Oh that's your fucking worldview, then we
Speaker 1: have nowhere.
Speaker 4: To fuck truly. I was like, there's no world in
Speaker 4: which we would ever have anything to talk about or
Speaker 4: get along about anything.
Speaker 2: And so who do you have empathy for those people
Speaker 2: who are trying to get places?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: People sitting in traffic, like, traffic sucks?
Speaker 1: And while I get to like, yeah, you see things
Speaker 1: where people like I'm legitimately having to go, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose my Like, I get that there are all sorts
Speaker 1: of extenuating circumstances that make that disruptive, but yet to
Speaker 1: say things like and because it's annoying, don't fucking do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, what about the people at Starbucks who
Speaker 4: like have to get to work? I'm like, well, that's
Speaker 4: a problem with capitalism, not a problem with the protesters.
Speaker 4: Like do you not see any see the world?
Speaker 1: What do you like? What are these antifas?
Speaker 2: What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry to start screaming on the podcast.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, get it out. I like, like, I'm someone
Speaker 1: as someone who's so ignorant of what the modern dating
Speaker 1: world is like. And I mean I have single friends
Speaker 1: who everyone says the same fucking thing. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: I mean, backyard, I don't I don't know what the
Speaker 1: difference is like. And that's like the hard thing to
Speaker 1: wrap my head around is like, is it that it's
Speaker 1: too many options? Because for me, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: in a sea of loneliness. I'm just looking for some
Speaker 1: drift wood also out there, and we can hold on
Speaker 1: to each other till the rescue boats come. And that's
Speaker 1: how you made a relationship work.
Speaker 4: Who many options of the problem. I think it's more
Speaker 4: just the quality of the options that are available is
Speaker 4: kind of at an all time you're too high valuable, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 2: That's a yeah. I feel like I've seen an unofficial
Speaker 2: trend online of people being like it's really hard for
Speaker 2: guys on these dating apps. Like I just helped my
Speaker 2: roommate with like his dating profile and he didn't get
Speaker 2: any bites and he's good looking and like he's awesome,
Speaker 2: so what's going on?
Speaker 4: And people have standards?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Someone had a theory though that because of like
Speaker 1: the frequency of new dates, you can get to that
Speaker 1: like the Again, this was someone's take on Twitter that
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure is accurate. Or not, but that
Speaker 1: it's different than like when before pre app dating, like
Speaker 1: you'd meet someone and just you try to make it
Speaker 1: work because you're like, I don't know, let's see, let
Speaker 1: me try to make it work, and then from there
Speaker 1: you either adapt to someone or don't and move on.
Speaker 1: But now like it just feels like it's easier to
Speaker 1: just be like, ah, I'm not feeling it, time to
Speaker 1: move on. And I don't know that that feels like
Speaker 1: a little bit fatalistic, but that.
Speaker 4: Well, that's something I now do, like immediate in the
Speaker 4: middle of the first date. I'm like, if I sense.
Speaker 1: That hud for something like that, that's disqualifying for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you always tell them you're leaving or do
Speaker 2: you ever just like pretend?
Speaker 4: One time I did consider, uh, just walking out the
Speaker 4: side door and running away, but I didn't. I was like,
Speaker 4: I just like sat back down. I was like, so
Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave now. I don't think we're connecting at
Speaker 4: all and I have to go. And he's like, oh,
Speaker 4: all right, well no, we can't all be for everybody.
Speaker 4: He took it surprisingly well, and I was like, so true,
Speaker 4: so true.
Speaker 2: Are you mad that I again?
Speaker 1: Are you mad that I insisted on this date being
Speaker 1: at Lappoo Belle. I thought it's cool that this is
Speaker 1: where Danny Masterson always used to hang out. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: like a huge thing because the owner of Lapoo Bell
Speaker 1: is also like a big Danny Masterson defender a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wait, that's that French restaurant near uc By
Speaker 4: Frank Okay, never go there again. I've only been like
Speaker 4: once or twice, so yeah, yeah, yeah, but never.
Speaker 2: A master saying you go into the poobe later. What
Speaker 2: are we talking man?
Speaker 1: LPs dude? Later?
Speaker 2: What is something, Caitlin that you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: I thought Furiosa was overrated?
Speaker 1: Wow, seen it, But I'm I hold your opinion in
Speaker 1: high regard. So to hear this, I would like to
Speaker 1: hear more.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Well, to be fair, I do put Mad
Speaker 4: Max's Fury Road on a pretty high pedestal.
Speaker 1: I've seen the tattoo.
Speaker 4: I have a tattoo about it. I've seen that movie
Speaker 4: well over sixty times, so, you know, normals, normal behavior
Speaker 4: on my part.
Speaker 1: But it came in with a pretty level head about
Speaker 1: But I was.
Speaker 4: Ready okay, So I went in being like, all right,
Speaker 4: it's probably not going to live up to Fury Road,
Speaker 4: not much can. In my eyes, I see it as
Speaker 4: more or less a perfect film. But I was like,
Speaker 4: I was still kind of expecting. I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't know what I was expecting. Actually, my expectations were
Speaker 4: kind of low because when the first trailer dropped and
Speaker 4: it looked weird and looked way too rendered and cgi,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no. But then I heard reviews
Speaker 4: coming out that were like, no, he's done it again.
Speaker 4: It's another masterpiece. Oh, it's great, great, And then a
Speaker 4: lot of just like you know, fans, you know, regular people,
Speaker 4: not professional movie critics or anything like that, where we're saying, oh,
Speaker 4: it's awesome.
Speaker 2: I loved it so much, typical regular human being regular.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: The popcorn was good. Impression I realized.
Speaker 4: Fell how but I stand by it. No, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a shitty thing for me to say. Even so,
Speaker 4: they're wrong, and I'm right.
Speaker 2: How many times have you seen it? By the way, I've.
Speaker 4: Only seen it once, and I do want to watch
Speaker 4: it again in theaters to just give the full like
Speaker 4: to have a fair assessment as much as I can.
Speaker 4: I thought that visually it was not as impressive. The
Speaker 4: action set pieces were not as as fun and impressive
Speaker 4: as Fury Road. And again I'm comparing this to Fury
Speaker 4: Road as a standalone movie. It's yeah, so it was.
Speaker 4: It just didn't quite live up visually because there's also
Speaker 4: like more reliance on c g I than Fury Road
Speaker 4: because so much of those effects were practical and I'm
Speaker 4: a sucker for practical effects. Story Wise, it was like
Speaker 4: it fell to bit jumbled. To me, I found myself
Speaker 4: like not having a hard time following necessarily, but I
Speaker 4: was just like, Okay, what are they doing and why
Speaker 4: what is motivating this sequence? Or like why what are
Speaker 4: we doing here? Because it just felt like there were
Speaker 4: scenes that were meant to connect thing like yeah, plot
Speaker 4: beats to others, and they felt like they were missing.
Speaker 4: So I had just kind of a problem with narrative
Speaker 4: cohesion and some story logic stuff. And then Furiosa isn't
Speaker 4: in the Furiosa movie enough.
Speaker 1: Right, right? It's not until like almost halfway in.
Speaker 4: Wait, what I mean, She's Ania Taylor Joy shows up
Speaker 4: later on because the first chunk of the movie is
Speaker 4: her as like a younger child. Even so, like it's
Speaker 4: a focus on I mean, I feel like the story
Speaker 4: is like really milking the fact that Chris Hemsworth is
Speaker 4: there and he's like chewing up the scenery a lot
Speaker 4: of the time. And then there's just like other characters
Speaker 4: and like scenes where Furiosa will be present, but she's
Speaker 4: not like driving the action of the scene or she's
Speaker 4: not like pushing the narrative forward. She's just kind of
Speaker 4: like a bystander by standard.
Speaker 2: Uh and.
Speaker 4: Exactly so well again, Furious it was the one driving
Speaker 4: most of the narrative in Fury Road, so I was
Speaker 4: like expecting the same deal for Furiosa and it just
Speaker 4: didn't quite happen. So, I mean, I walked away from
Speaker 4: it feeling like emotionally affected. But then the more I
Speaker 4: think about it, the more I'm like, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: it's as great as everyone's saying it is.
Speaker 2: Would you put it on par with like some of
Speaker 2: the previous Mad Max films.
Speaker 4: I mean, I am not really a fan of any
Speaker 4: of those one because so hard to stomach. Mel Gibson
Speaker 4: and Number two, I don't know, they're just to me there,
Speaker 4: it's a different camp because the budgets for those were
Speaker 4: so much lower. The kind of again the effects and stuff,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I'm not like a a
Speaker 4: purist when it comes to Mad Max. I'm all about
Speaker 4: that Fury Road life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, they messed up. They should have called it
Speaker 1: Fury roadsa so then people at least, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, just connected a little.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: That's my that's my terrible idea for Jordan.
Speaker 2: That's why you should get notes from Miles Gray on
Speaker 2: all your blockbusters.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, man, charge nothing for this terrible opinion.
Speaker 2: It does feel like there's this theory on like aw tours,
Speaker 2: like you can follow these their their careers and like
Speaker 2: some of them are like trying all these different things out,
Speaker 2: and then some of them are making the same movie
Speaker 2: over and over again and just trying to get it right.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you could say that George Miller
Speaker 2: kind of kept making like I'm pretty sure one of
Speaker 2: the Mad Max's was just a straight up remake of
Speaker 2: a previous one with just a bigger budget.
Speaker 4: And maybe I I've only seen each of the original
Speaker 4: trilogy ones, but the first one was literally like a
Speaker 4: student film. There was like no budget for yeah whatsoever?
Speaker 2: Was like shit, that was the one I like went back.
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, the people talk about these movies,
Speaker 2: can't wait to see it, and it's like, this looks
Speaker 2: like shit. Georgia Miller and I did reach out to
Speaker 2: him and let him know thank you. But yeah, there
Speaker 2: was the first one that like looked like a Mad
Speaker 2: Max movie with like master Blaster and stuff. I thought
Speaker 2: was pretty good. But it does feel like he was
Speaker 2: working his way up to Fury Road and like did
Speaker 2: it and he was like that, you know, I felt
Speaker 2: like this is the thing that was in his mind
Speaker 2: the whole time he executed it. And then studios were like,
Speaker 2: we don't know what to do. There's no more superhero movies.
Speaker 2: Can we pay you to make a prequel?
Speaker 1: Prequel?
Speaker 4: The other one really need because we have all the
Speaker 4: information the furios of the movie gives us.
Speaker 2: So he's like I already like worked out the beats,
Speaker 2: and while I was like kind of writing, yeah, but
Speaker 2: we don't need to see it.
Speaker 4: We don't need to see it, We don't. I wish
Speaker 4: what would have happened is what like and Or did
Speaker 4: for the Star Wars universe, where like kind of it
Speaker 4: takes a character that we like vaguely know about from
Speaker 4: one of the like minor Star Wars movies and then
Speaker 4: expands the world from there, but you know, and introduces
Speaker 4: new lore and new concepts and ideas and blah blah blah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I think they should have done the same thing
Speaker 4: with like the Mad Max universe. Yeah, that's just my
Speaker 4: humble expert opinion.
Speaker 2: And Miles is that it should have been called Fury Roads.
Speaker 4: Fury Roads, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And more of the cocaine guitar guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should go to a Shrek rave.
Speaker 1: Oh my dude, see a Fury Road rave, get people.
Speaker 1: People will absolutely fun. Dude. The second that guy comes
Speaker 1: out on that fucking guitar, just befome shooting out. People
Speaker 1: are just gonna be overdosing immediate.
Speaker 2: People are dying of chrome spray paint ingestion.
Speaker 1: Everyone is just huffing metallic spray paint to be like, dude,
Speaker 1: it's like the movie. You're like, you're killing your brain.
Speaker 2: You're actually dying right now due more tango, please.
Speaker 1: Sup.
Speaker 2: Producer Justin points out that that might be Burning Man
Speaker 2: what we're describing. Okay, and I'll go to Burning Man.
Speaker 1: But it's like expensive, and I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in the back of a pickup truck with diplow and
Speaker 1: Chris Rock who think the world is ending.
Speaker 2: I want to be on a helicopter with Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: That's the way to do burning Man. Let's take a
Speaker 2: quick break and we'll come back and talk about just
Speaker 2: how badly the Republican Party can fuck up Pride Month.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, and
Speaker 5: we're yeah, we're back. It is Pride Month, and there
Speaker 5: has been a predictable onslaught of homophobic bullshit from conservative media,
Speaker 5: conservative politicians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got the FRC, the Family Research Council, which
Speaker 1: is the absolute homophobic freak show that's like there right now.
Speaker 1: They're like celebrating sports teams that have not posted about
Speaker 1: Pride while also claiming that like major sports have like
Speaker 1: rejected the concept completely. And while that's not true completely,
Speaker 1: there are definitely a few teams that are holding out
Speaker 1: on acknowledging the month, which is disheartening. Like I think
Speaker 1: there's only one team in baseball, the Texas Rangers, that
Speaker 1: like have just not posted anything about it. There's I
Speaker 1: think like ten teams in the NFL that haven't either.
Speaker 1: And you know, while that's all happening, there's also this
Speaker 1: candidate for Missouri Secretary of State, Valentina Gomez, and she
Speaker 1: is using the time honored Republican candidate tactic of just
Speaker 1: saying the most unhinged, violent rhetoric that you can to
Speaker 1: get eyeballs on your campaign. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: ever brought it up, because it was just in the
Speaker 1: background of the ignorant shit that comes out of the right.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is the woman who said everyone
Speaker 1: in America. She kept saying everything's weak and gay in America,
Speaker 1: and it was very, very poignant. One of her first
Speaker 1: videos is her running with a kevlar fucking vest on,
Speaker 1: like a bulletproof vest because she's so badass. I'll just
Speaker 1: play this clip because this is again someone who's running
Speaker 1: for secretary of state. But anyway, I'll let her, you know,
Speaker 1: launch her campaign in America.
Speaker 6: It could be any you want, can.
Speaker 2: So hard.
Speaker 1: She said, you can be anything, so don't be weak
Speaker 1: and gay, be fucking hard. And then it's like a
Speaker 1: fucking just a collage of her holding guns and then
Speaker 1: it's like, Valentino Gomez from Missouri Secretary of State.
Speaker 4: Doesn't she realize that America would be such a better
Speaker 4: place if everyone was weak.
Speaker 1: And gay gay Yeah, we probably wouldn't be in the
Speaker 1: starting wars all the time. I'm like, not really for us,
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, but we are. We are
Speaker 1: having a fantastic ball if someone wants to come through
Speaker 1: and you know, see if they can actually really get
Speaker 1: served in this arena.
Speaker 4: A gay Shrek ball.
Speaker 1: But yo, could you imagine that death drops for people
Speaker 1: in a Shrek costume? Get get down, just and look.
Speaker 1: She also proved how hetero and non groomer she is
Speaker 1: because she also so used to fucking blow torts like
Speaker 1: a flamethrower to set fire to books by LGBTQ plus authors.
Speaker 1: All of this is a great distraction from the even
Speaker 1: bigger thing here, which is she is totally unqualified for
Speaker 1: the position she's even running for. But again, make a
Speaker 1: bunch of noise and that'll be the focus. But it
Speaker 1: turns out her employer, Nestley, isn't that into having someone
Speaker 1: like her on their payroll.
Speaker 2: Own, And I think, did she make too much noise? Dude?
Speaker 1: She's just spread too much truth, man, so much truth
Speaker 1: that I mean in most instances when you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: not working for the place anymore because my company said
Speaker 1: they're unhappy with me. That's usually because the employer is
Speaker 1: letting go of the employee. Oh not here, No, not here, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: this trucking patrion. She ain't fucking going down without a fight.
Speaker 1: Here's her basically outside of her This like after she
Speaker 1: got fired, she fucking recorded a video outside of her office,
Speaker 1: or like Valentina's recording a fucking video outside near the lobby.
Speaker 1: This is announcing that she was not fired. Okay, go look,
Speaker 1: go broke.
Speaker 6: This company tried to keep me choirs for speaking up
Speaker 6: against the pornographic material in our children's libraries.
Speaker 1: Like today, I fire them.
Speaker 6: No amount of money, stock, or bullying would make me
Speaker 6: compromise my values. So I will never support a company
Speaker 6: that wants to empower and protect pedophiles and rumors in
Speaker 6: our schools and libraries. So figuo dug something that is
Speaker 6: now weak and gay? This is good versus evil.
Speaker 2: Don't we don't be weakend gay week in gay dot com.
Speaker 1: This is for someone running for secretary of state and
Speaker 1: their whole platform is just to be like Purina dog
Speaker 1: food is weak in k Yeah, and that's just the
Speaker 1: level of fucking just backwards discourse. So yeah, she fired
Speaker 1: them she was not fired because that's just just very
Speaker 1: healthy outlook that she has. But also other shit happening
Speaker 1: in Utah. The governor in Utah is using Pride month
Speaker 1: as a way to cool build bridges between the sides.
Speaker 1: And they're like, what size the lgbt Q plus community
Speaker 1: and bigots?
Speaker 2: I think, Oh, it's we gotta hear out both sides.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. He says June should be a time to exchange
Speaker 1: ideas and see how everyone experiences Pride. Quote he said
Speaker 1: in this declaration that quote, those who do not identify with, celebrate,
Speaker 1: or support Pride celebrations nevertheless share the experience of being marginalized.
Speaker 2: Thank you at the Thanksgiving dinner table.
Speaker 1: In you, we love our children, and we hope to
Speaker 1: live in such a way that our children will forever
Speaker 1: love us. And even if at times you may disagree
Speaker 1: over deeply held personal so fucking wild, Like, what a
Speaker 1: load of fucking horse. These people are not persecuted by
Speaker 1: our children, Yeah for not loving us enough, because we're
Speaker 1: so we're so bigoted and hateful that we refuse to
Speaker 1: let people be like Again, you people who do not
Speaker 1: support like, who are so this homophobic, are not marginalized. Okay,
Speaker 1: but again here they are using die and breed.
Speaker 2: Man, We're an endangered species, all.
Speaker 1: Right, we need protection. Going the way of Shrek man.
Speaker 1: Hate to say we're going the way of Shrek man.
Speaker 1: Our swamp is in danger.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I just want to live on my bug by myself
Speaker 2: and to have my kids forced to come live with
Speaker 2: me and honor everything that I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeahs as, I have an absolute crisis talking to a
Speaker 1: donkey and a cat wearing boots that I call my friends,
Speaker 1: you know, they say.
Speaker 4: Okay, why don't we be smirching Shrek?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: This is not fair.
Speaker 1: This is someone, This is someone who thinks they got
Speaker 1: it like Shrek and they don't. You don't have it
Speaker 1: like Shrek or Shrek is Shrek a ally?
Speaker 4: Actually? No? Okay, okay, good thing with Shrek one And
Speaker 4: you might have noticed this Jack upon watching it recently,
Speaker 4: but he's like pissed off that all of these So
Speaker 4: basically what's happening to Shrek one is that Lord Farquaad
Speaker 4: is ethnically cleansing his kingdom and he's displacing all of
Speaker 4: these fairy tale creatures who in the context of this
Speaker 4: kingdom are marginalized, and he dumps them in Shrek's swamp
Speaker 4: and Shrek is fury that they're there, and he's like,
Speaker 4: get them out of here, this is my land, Like
Speaker 4: what this? Yeah, so he is not an ally to
Speaker 4: his fellow fairy tale creature.
Speaker 2: He's like a weird mercenary.
Speaker 1: First he's but he's not a boot liquor either. It's
Speaker 1: not he's like, yo, man, like, I get what pro.
Speaker 4: Monarchy until he fucking marries a princess and then in
Speaker 4: Shrek two he like goes to the kingdom to meet
Speaker 4: the parents, and then in Shrek three he becomes a
Speaker 4: stand in for king the King. So actually he loves
Speaker 4: the monarchy.
Speaker 1: At this piece. So does acab include Shrek?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I would say, so do.
Speaker 1: We need to start Do we need to start announcing
Speaker 1: that at the top of the mountain, just so you know,
Speaker 1: a cab also includes Shrek? Yes, just so fucking.
Speaker 4: Know Trek is the villain of Shrek.
Speaker 1: Shrek. Wow. Yeah, I again, just back on this Utah thing.
Speaker 1: It's just so wild when they're like, let's use this
Speaker 1: moment to center ourselves and and and it'll be a
Speaker 1: testament to our myopic self victimization. It'll be fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: going to be fantastic. The dominant culture has to make
Speaker 1: space for marginalized people, and now we are the oppressed.
Speaker 1: Humiliating anyway, aboud treck fact that they just start talking
Speaker 1: about we love in Utah, we love our children, and
Speaker 1: we hope to live in such a way that.
Speaker 2: Our children will forever love us, even if at times
Speaker 2: we may disagree. Like they just immediately like go into
Speaker 2: this weird like subtweeting of their kids in legislation for
Speaker 2: like not agreeing with their fucked up, like hateful viewpoint.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, dying alone, bigot boomer apologia they're doing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just like so because that
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a thing you see like a lot,
Speaker 1: Like I've seen a lot of people talk about how
Speaker 1: like there are so many.
Speaker 7: People like I just I don't I don't even talk
Speaker 7: to my kids, I don't even see my grandkids anymore
Speaker 7: because I'm so backwards. But they're still using that, like
Speaker 7: and I feel like I've got a scarlet letter on
Speaker 7: or something exactly just because I didn't I know.
Speaker 1: What it was like to be a black panther.
Speaker 2: Wait what, I'm sorry, I don't think you do.
Speaker 8: That's why I also celebrate. I understand February. It's also
Speaker 8: a month for me. Yeah, that's amazing history. All right, Uh,
Speaker 8: let's take a quick break. I can't fucking believe that story.
Speaker 8: That's truly rarely am I speechless, but fucking.
Speaker 2: Utah, you've done it again. It does again, famous line
Speaker 2: from point break. Let's take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back, and we're back, and time to discuss one
Speaker 2: of my favorite ridge farms, pet Ridge Farm, makers of Goldfish,
Speaker 2: who recently unveiled a new flavor, spicy Dill Pickle, which
Speaker 2: isn't the first time that they've released a different flavor,
Speaker 2: but it does seem they got Old Bay. They got
Speaker 2: Old Bay, they got flavor blasted goldfish. Flavor blasted goldfish
Speaker 2: are fucking incredible. I got that.
Speaker 1: It's too much. It's a hat on top of a
Speaker 1: hat for me.
Speaker 4: No, so are the ones that are like that have
Speaker 4: like a powder on them right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They have, like dorino dust.
Speaker 4: I don't want that.
Speaker 1: The originals to begin with, they weren't a finger altering substance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, the originals are probably the best. But
Speaker 2: of the additional varieties, I do think flavor blasted original,
Speaker 2: you know, like you blasted with the original flavor. You
Speaker 2: doubled down on what was working in the first place.
Speaker 2: That is what I'm talking about. None of this fucking
Speaker 2: parmesan stuff.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's gross.
Speaker 2: I better stop here before I start saying stuff about
Speaker 2: Italian people that I'm gonna regret.
Speaker 1: But Jesus, let's.
Speaker 2: Just say I did say parmesan in a weird way
Speaker 2: there that sounded more hateful than it O. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: parmijeon sit on the ground.
Speaker 1: I only like the craft ship and the green can.
Speaker 1: The fake stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, give me that American cheese.
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 2: You don't actually put American cheese on my pasta. When
Speaker 2: I'm at an Italian restaurant.
Speaker 1: Individuals like cheese, not that ship, though I have my
Speaker 1: own what do you call them bread? Will you please
Speaker 1: take this plastic sleeve? I don't eat it any singles.
Speaker 2: That grow.
Speaker 1: That's how we had lasagna. I remember at my school
Speaker 1: cafeteria it was all American cheese.
Speaker 4: Yuh grows. American cheese is objectively the worst of all
Speaker 4: the cheeses.
Speaker 2: That were alive. Is incredible, like what we ate growing up.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Do you know how expensive American cheeses though, It's like
Speaker 4: the price does not make.
Speaker 2: Four nine for like a thirty pack, but each pack
Speaker 2: is individually each piece is individually wrapped, so it doesn't
Speaker 2: it doesn't go bad.
Speaker 1: Like there was like yeah, like one of those little
Speaker 1: half sacks was like on par with buying like legit
Speaker 1: just cheddar cheese, and I was like, what what the
Speaker 1: fuck are they trying to do? Like why are you
Speaker 1: charging this much for just water and oil? Yeah, in
Speaker 1: the shape of a cheese.
Speaker 2: Whatever oil is, it has to be made in a machine,
Speaker 2: it has to be drilled out of the earth miles.
Speaker 1: It's made with crude petroleum. That American cheese like doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense from a physics perspective. American cheese is made
Speaker 1: with jet fuel crude oil bullets.
Speaker 2: But anyways, goldfish taking a big swing with a spicy
Speaker 2: dill pickle. There is a like market research firm somewhere
Speaker 2: that has been like guys Pickles the wave of the future,
Speaker 2: because like that, the city of la is covered in
Speaker 2: billboards for like pickle companies and like pickles that are
Speaker 2: coming out and now Goldfish is like getting in on
Speaker 2: the pickle craze. That was congratulations to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. About eight years ago, there were like people around
Speaker 1: here like dude, I'm starting to make pickles. And I'm like, okay, sure, man,
Speaker 1: Like thanks whatever.
Speaker 4: I make pickles. Whenever I bought by a jar of pickles,
Speaker 4: I eat the pickles. There's a lot of pickle juice
Speaker 4: left over. And then I buy a cucumber and I
Speaker 4: wow it up and put it in the pickle juice.
Speaker 4: Let it sit, let it, you know, fester for a
Speaker 4: bit and pickles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're all a cookbook. They get that nice
Speaker 1: nice just you can you really do that?
Speaker 4: Tho, I legitimately do that.
Speaker 2: That is the most sustainable ship I've ever heard of,
Speaker 2: because it.
Speaker 4: Feels wasteful to dump out all that pickle juice.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of pickle juice or use it as
Speaker 1: brining liquid. Yeah, exactly like chicken thighs and like really
Speaker 1: grind that ship and pickle juice, because you know, that's
Speaker 1: what they say about Like the rumor was like a
Speaker 1: Chick fil A or whatever that your pickle brine or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I think in general, like it's a good salted
Speaker 1: brinding liquid. It was that. Or I would just buy
Speaker 1: a bottle of whiskey and just do a bunch of picklebacks.
Speaker 1: That too.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, wait, wait you say it.
Speaker 1: You're in recovery and you never were drinking picklebacks. No,
Speaker 1: drinking tequila with Tabasco sauce. That was my Like, oh
Speaker 1: I don't like this, but I can't stop drinking Casco
Speaker 1: Tabila Casco. Wow.
Speaker 4: No, you take a shot of whiskey and then you
Speaker 4: chase it.
Speaker 1: WITHI with pickle juice.
Speaker 2: Goddamn it.
Speaker 1: I was drinking. I was hooked because the way it
Speaker 1: neutralized that alcohol flavor in your mouth and gave you
Speaker 1: a little bit of that like briany like ah. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a health food for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's vegetable water. Yeah, this is basically
Speaker 1: what they used to drink, and lethal amounts of salt.
Speaker 2: I'm drinking.
Speaker 4: But okay, I you know vinegar, which I'm sure is
Speaker 4: the main ingredient in pickle juice. It's it helps with
Speaker 4: your digestion. It's good for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there, So there. I just dumped my leftover pickle
Speaker 2: juice and my gas tank and Jesus does not go, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all right, So you know, some theories have it.
Speaker 2: The Pepperidge Farm is looking to distract from the fact
Speaker 2: that they recently got sued for allegedly misleading customers with
Speaker 2: claims that goldfish crackers contain no artificial flavors or preservatives.
Speaker 2: It's wild because that phrase artificial flavors was invented to
Speaker 2: be so broad as to resist like definition at all. Right,
Speaker 2: Like they were like, yeah, we're gonna the food industry
Speaker 2: is going to create this as a thing. Nobody knows
Speaker 2: what an artificial flavor is, but we can pretend like
Speaker 2: the food is somehow more pure than other foods by
Speaker 2: just claiming this. And they even got caught using that. Why,
Speaker 2: I mean, this could by no definition. Are these not
Speaker 2: artificial flavors?
Speaker 1: I am so fucking stupid that you saying that just
Speaker 1: fucked up my entire worldview. Yeah, it's crazy out here,
Speaker 1: be like, oh, no artificial flavors. Yeah, except for industry
Speaker 1: is straight up some fucking wacky combo that doesn't exist
Speaker 1: in nature and would have to certainly be artificial.
Speaker 4: I'm like, but they said no artificial flavors, But they said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Wow, wow wow.
Speaker 2: Which brings us to our random aside. Apparently the origin
Speaker 2: of goldfish crackers. They were originally created by a with
Speaker 2: a machine built by a World War two Nazi codebreaker
Speaker 2: who was instrumental and convincing Hitler that the Allies were
Speaker 2: set to land in Kalay not Normandy. Wow, we have goldfit.
Speaker 2: And that so retired from being a Nazi after World
Speaker 2: War Two, and like somebody was traveling around and was like,
Speaker 2: this guy makes cool fish shape him cranked crackers, and
Speaker 2: they like sold it to Pepperidge Farm and that's how
Speaker 2: we have the goldfish cracker today. But that person basically
Speaker 2: was so bad at their job as a code breaker
Speaker 2: that they allowed the Allies to win the war.
Speaker 1: Wait he no, no, no, he's a Nazi coach. He was
Speaker 1: breaking Nazi code. He was breaking well, that was my question.
Speaker 1: Was he a Nazi? No no, no, no, he was breaking Nazi.
Speaker 2: A code breaker? Who was He's good.
Speaker 1: Guy, He's jack. If I can't I can't in one go,
Speaker 1: I can't learn that artificial flavors is bullshit and I'm
Speaker 1: eating Nazi goldfish crackers. Man, Like that would have been
Speaker 1: such a blow to my entire identity.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, yeah, okay, so he on purpose wrong
Speaker 4: like convinced the wrong thing, so he was like fucking undercover.
Speaker 2: Good for him. Yeah, I'm back on board. Oh I
Speaker 2: gotta go fish so many bags of goldfish crackers out
Speaker 2: of my garbage.
Speaker 1: Not even this fucking third Reich bullshit.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So anyways, though it ties into D Day, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: shout out to that.
Speaker 1: I also just think it's.
Speaker 2: Funny that like that was like an invention goldfish shaped crackers.
Speaker 2: They were like, you hear about this guy over in Germany.
Speaker 2: Crackers are shaped like little fucking goldfish and like they
Speaker 2: had to hire him to like it feels like it
Speaker 2: should be easy, but well.
Speaker 4: It makes you wonder about like who invented the dinosaur
Speaker 4: shaped chicken nuggets?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And I want there, I don't.
Speaker 4: It'll break you.
Speaker 1: It was Oppenheimer. I'm like, no, goddamn it, I mean
Speaker 1: these I just want to resist saying that this is
Speaker 1: the bomb, but it's damn Close's damn close. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: invented dino nuggets? Because those aren't. That's also I feel
Speaker 1: like we do need to know the history of the
Speaker 1: dino nugget.
Speaker 4: There, I haven't had them, you know, since I was
Speaker 4: a kid. But they're delicious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, and probably terrible for you. But then that's fine,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, and that's fine.
Speaker 4: Piss. So who am I?
Speaker 1: I'm watching it down with the fortieth Shrek piss. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the weeks of my words? Oh shit, amazing.
Speaker 2: Should we do one more? We got we got a
Speaker 2: couple of kind of meatia ones.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Uh? Did you guys read the three M story?
Speaker 1: The I remember it was getting teased out last week
Speaker 1: or the week. Yeah, got forever chemicals problem.
Speaker 2: It's bad, man, it is so I So I finally
Speaker 2: read the three M story. We'll link off to it
Speaker 2: in the footnotes. It's a collabo between Pro Publica and
Speaker 2: The New Yorker. I've always resented three AM a little
Speaker 2: bit for being the company that actually invented post it
Speaker 2: notes and not Romeo Michelle, you know, yeh, But the
Speaker 2: business press like also trained me to like the business
Speaker 2: press like has a crush on three M. They've always
Speaker 2: been like, like they love to tell the story of
Speaker 2: like how they came up with the post it note,
Speaker 2: Like they like came up with this glue that was
Speaker 2: too weak. To be effective for anything. But then they
Speaker 2: put it on the post it and realized it could be.
Speaker 2: Like they there's so many like Gladwell light writers who
Speaker 2: like love to tell the story of how Threem is
Speaker 2: this little place for like ingenius little tinkerers, and you know,
Speaker 2: so they started with I think their first invention was
Speaker 2: like masking tape, but then they like, now they make
Speaker 2: a bunch of the different kinds of bandages and sponges
Speaker 2: and all sorts of shit. Scotch Guard the thing that
Speaker 2: like makes various papers and packages waterproof. And that's the
Speaker 2: one that got us in trouble because so one of
Speaker 2: their scientists in the late nineties was given a weird assignment,
Speaker 2: very foreboding, where they're like, hey, weird, they take this
Speaker 2: broad cross section of Red Cross blood donations and start
Speaker 2: looking for our chemicals in these blood donations. And she
Speaker 2: was like okay, and she found these pfos, the things
Speaker 2: that are in Scotch Guard, in every single sample, every
Speaker 2: single god. And so they were like, well, this must
Speaker 2: be a mistake kept because they were like, okay, well
Speaker 2: here take this blood sample. She was like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: in there too, and they were like, well, that's my
Speaker 2: pet horse, so you must be lying. And then they realized,
Speaker 2: oh no, it's like getting into your pet horses bloodstream
Speaker 2: through like fish meal, because like it's so pervasive in
Speaker 2: all water, like it's in all the fish, it's in everywhere,
Speaker 2: it's fucking everywhere. They realized like that all their readings
Speaker 2: were accurate when they finally like found a blood sample
Speaker 2: of like people who died before the invention of these
Speaker 2: chemicals these pfos and found and find that was the
Speaker 2: first sample that they tested, was that didn't have these
Speaker 2: pfos in it. And it's like gotten more and more
Speaker 2: over time because it accumulates, like our body has no
Speaker 2: way to get rid of it, and it just gets
Speaker 2: more and more.
Speaker 1: So like at first they were.
Speaker 2: Like, well, this is no problem though, because even though
Speaker 2: the chemicals are in our bloodstream, like they're not that harmful,
Speaker 2: but they accumulate and get more and more, so we
Speaker 2: actually don't know what's going to happen. And now some
Speaker 2: people are speculating that it has it's like the cause
Speaker 2: of some types of cancer, and it's the cause of
Speaker 2: lowering like sperm count and lowering reproductive rates around the
Speaker 2: globe and it's just a again, we'll like off to it.
Speaker 2: It's a must read, but it's really you know, we
Speaker 2: present a lot of reasons on this show that unregulated
Speaker 2: hypercapitalism doesn't seem to work as the organizing principle for
Speaker 2: all of human civilization, all of humanity. But this is
Speaker 2: like maybe the biggest and scariest that I've ever encountered. Like,
Speaker 2: we have these companies steering the ship who have nothing
Speaker 2: but short term profit in mind, and they will poison
Speaker 2: us all to death if the poison is slow enough
Speaker 2: that they can get enough of our money before we die.
Speaker 2: Like that's essentially Like So she discovered this in like
Speaker 2: the nineties and immediately started getting like frozen out by
Speaker 2: her like co workers. She was asked to present the
Speaker 2: findings to the CEO of the company. The CEO, like
Speaker 2: all all of the head lead executives, like higher up executives,
Speaker 2: started attacking her and being like who told you to
Speaker 2: do this? And like wh what is your motivation for?
Speaker 2: Like doing this research that like tears down the amazing
Speaker 2: inventions that people at this company have done. And while
Speaker 2: they were doing that, the CEO fell asleep and started
Speaker 2: drooling on his dress shirt. Like in that meeting, and
Speaker 2: then she got like reassigned away from that and then
Speaker 2: like this article, as this article uncovers, like they had
Speaker 2: known about it for like twenty years before, and like
Speaker 2: there there were various executives who were like, this is
Speaker 2: really bad, but they basically like laundered the findings through
Speaker 2: her because they knew it was going to be bad
Speaker 2: for whoever's career, like was associated with it. Jesus, it's
Speaker 2: this fucking bonkers thing. But it doesn't like it just
Speaker 2: feels like how every single corporation that you read about
Speaker 2: like operates they you know, it's just they are hostile
Speaker 2: to whatever is going to prove counter profitable. You know,
Speaker 2: if it's going to slow down profits, it's going to
Speaker 2: be wildly unpopular.
Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, sounds like we need a sequel
Speaker 4: to Aaron Brockovic.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean I think Dark Water is somehow
Speaker 2: related to these chemirats Dark.
Speaker 4: Darkwater is the all male reboot of Aaron Brockovic. A Brockovich.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone saw that movie, but I
Speaker 4: did in theaters brag. And I forget what company. It's
Speaker 4: not three a M. It was a different company that
Speaker 4: Mark Ruffalo's character was like learning that like all this
Speaker 4: like Tefton or something is in drinking water yeah, DuPont yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: and a bunch of people were being poisoned by their
Speaker 4: drinking water in a certain region, And so I guess
Speaker 4: we just need another movie to complete the stream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it takes. Like did you see the
Speaker 1: movie about three It's like that pro public article came
Speaker 1: out seventeen years ago, right, You're like, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the movie's great. Anya Taylor Joy is fantastic as
Speaker 1: the human manifestation of one of those p Foss chemicals
Speaker 1: Powerhouse Performance, Powerhouse Performance.
Speaker 2: It is wild, like how like there's a part of
Speaker 2: me like I had been incepted with goodwill towards this
Speaker 2: company by like articles that were just yeah, we're just
Speaker 2: like and this we think your stuff ingenuity works, and
Speaker 2: like yeah, we're just like kind of the people behind
Speaker 2: the people. And like once you read about them, you
Speaker 2: start looking around and you see like, oh three M
Speaker 2: is like their labels on everything. And for me that
Speaker 2: was like a fun discovery back back in you know,
Speaker 2: ten years ago. It's like, oh, this here's a company
Speaker 2: out of like the humble you know, State of Minnesota
Speaker 2: who's secretly like doing all this good work, and now
Speaker 2: it's like fucking terrify. It's like the end of usual Suspects,
Speaker 2: where it's like three m is everywhere and they don't
Speaker 2: give a fuck about your health at all. And even
Speaker 2: like some of the stuff, like now that they've been sued,
Speaker 2: they have like a ten billion dollar settlement that people
Speaker 2: are saying is just the tip of the iceberg. But
Speaker 2: they are like even the they've like made a big
Speaker 2: show about like, you know, we're evolving with the new
Speaker 2: scientific findings that was before this report came out, proving
Speaker 2: that they like had had the findings before any of us,
Speaker 2: and like now even now like they're wording around, like
Speaker 2: what they're actually agreeing to do is still like very
Speaker 2: hedgy and like it we're gonna we are going to
Speaker 2: get rid of these things as long as we can
Speaker 2: find a profitable replacement too, you know, Like they're also right, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah that literally one of the things that they started
Speaker 2: replacing the p foughts with was like pfas and like
Speaker 2: or pfbs and that scientist who is now you know,
Speaker 2: a whistleblower and like the main source for this report
Speaker 2: was like, and I knew at that time, like those
Speaker 2: are also going to be bad and accumulating in people's
Speaker 2: blood through So it's just a crazy story. But shout
Speaker 2: out to Pro Publica. They do really great work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, it was wild too, because I remember they
Speaker 1: like a few years ago, like right before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: they were trying to get legislation through that three M
Speaker 1: was fighting hard about designating these chemicals as like fucked up,
Speaker 1: and they were successful at defeating that legislation. And now
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, because it's so fucking bad. Cool cool
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, so need a new system.
Speaker 1: Anyway, That's what I'm saying. Just take eat a handful
Speaker 1: of goldfish, wash it down with some Shrek piss.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I might just have to get out there and like
Speaker 1: help people with the misinformation. Like this is the only
Speaker 1: way we're going to get folks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, drink your Shrek piss, eat your goldfish.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Take down three Am, Caitlin. What a pleasure having you.
Speaker 4: As always on the show, the pleasure is online.
Speaker 2: Where can people find you? And that's not true, by
Speaker 2: the way. The pleasure is also our stop being greedy
Speaker 2: about the pleasure.
Speaker 1: Stop being greedy about the pleasure.
Speaker 4: Lady Wow, I was talking about earlier with dating.
Speaker 2: That guy was me by the way, you have to
Speaker 2: just walk out of it. I'm just saying it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to get to places where can people find you,
Speaker 2: follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm mostly on Instagram these days at Kaitlyn Deronte. You
Speaker 4: can also check out my website Kaitlyn Durante dot com.
Speaker 4: I post my upcoming screenwriting classes I teach. The summer
Speaker 4: sessions are all filled up, but I'm going to be
Speaker 4: teaching stuff in the fall. Both my intro class and
Speaker 4: I now teach like workshopping classes. So if you have
Speaker 4: a project you're already working on and you want to
Speaker 4: bring it to a group where you'll have like accountability
Speaker 4: and deadlines and lots of constructive feedback from your peers
Speaker 4: and from me, I teach classes of that nature. And
Speaker 4: so you can go to what did I did? I
Speaker 4: already say it? I'll say it again Caitlindoronte dot com
Speaker 4: and find information about that amazing and oh and listen
Speaker 4: to the Bechdel Cast.
Speaker 2: And does the damn Bechdel Cast what does the Bechdel
Speaker 2: cast do? If you had to just like kind of
Speaker 2: put it in a single sent.
Speaker 4: I would say it maybe like takes down the patriarchy
Speaker 4: one movie at a time.
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: Can I use that? You can use it to back
Speaker 1: just anything. I like this restaurant here. It takes down
Speaker 1: the patriarchy one film.
Speaker 2: At a time.
Speaker 4: Long is he talking about?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have much to say.
Speaker 4: American cheese and.
Speaker 1: In various forms.
Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 4: Oh, I would recommend everyone check out the show We
Speaker 4: Are Lady Parts. Season two recently dropped. It's on Peacock.
Speaker 4: Ever heard of it? So yeah, catch up on season
Speaker 4: one and then watch season two. It's a great show.
Speaker 4: It's so funny and it's so charming.
Speaker 2: We did a stream and corner with super producer on
Speaker 2: hose Enate for season one, and we will be doing
Speaker 2: a streaming corner for season two of We Are Lady Parts.
Speaker 2: So n everybody that that is not just a piece
Speaker 2: of media that is being enjoyed by Caitlin, it's also
Speaker 2: an assignment if you want, if you want to know
Speaker 2: what the fuck we're talking about on that episode Amazing Miles.
Speaker 2: Where can people find you as their work media you've
Speaker 2: been enjoyed?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Speaker 1: Miles Gray. You can find us on the basketball podcast
Speaker 1: Jack and Miles, Miles and Jack Got Mad BOOSTI is
Speaker 1: however you want to however you want to order that?
Speaker 1: And also on four twentyance talking ninety Day Fiance and
Speaker 1: the latest episode of My Mama Told Me. That's the
Speaker 1: Langston Kerman and David Moory podcast. Let's see. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I had let me, let me just look
Speaker 1: at Did I like anything? I don't know if I
Speaker 1: liked anything?
Speaker 4: Do I have any works of media.
Speaker 1: That I liked?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Actually, yes, yes, yes, yes yes uh. This is actually
Speaker 1: from your co host, Jamie Loftis at Jamie Loftis help
Speaker 1: tweeted this like last week. I remember when Babu Frick
Speaker 1: came out this. She was always talking about how down
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Speaker 1: I love it's it's a picture of Babu Frick and
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Speaker 1: and no one but me has the Babu Frick toy
Speaker 1: and the Babu Frick crop top I have. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen over half of the Star Wars movies. I just
Speaker 1: like that he looks like an old baby. Shout out
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Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 2: uh tweet I've been enjoying MS Grace cooling ship. Schmidt tweeted,
Speaker 2: I built a squatty potty out of Mahogany, with a
Speaker 2: picture of the squatty potty built out of mahogany and
Speaker 2: left at London tweeted eminem lyrics since two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: build a squatty potty out of mahan.
Speaker 4: Wow, hey, I get it, Build a squaddy.
Speaker 2: Shit way too many napkins and then please be nice.
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Speaker 4: Forties.
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Speaker 2: we post our episode and our footnotes foote and look
Speaker 2: off to the information that we talked about today is
Speaker 2: episode well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 2: what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: I just like that this like soft R and B
Speaker 1: that feels like from It's like from the nineties is
Speaker 1: kind of making a big comeback. This is galdive and
Speaker 1: or Galdeve. I don't know, it's like how you pronounced
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Speaker 1: and B kind of shit, just you know, setting yourself
Speaker 1: up for the weekend, getting in that vibe, you know,
Speaker 1: letting the sun hit you. So bloom gal dive get into.
Speaker 2: It all right. We will link off to that in
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