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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. There can be only one and well, except

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Speaker 1: no imitations. This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 1: and Matt the Steelers now at seven and four after

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Speaker 1: a he hits call sixteen to ten win. Convincing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it was convinced.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty word. That was pretty damn convincing. I was.

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Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say dominant, and so that's a

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Speaker 2: little strong, but convincing. Great word. I thought they were

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Speaker 2: easily the better team. I mean, start to finish a

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Speaker 2: very little threat from the Bengals. Yeah, I mean by

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Speaker 2: the scoreboard. You know, it was seven to three at

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Speaker 2: the half. The Steelers kind of.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The first half was weird. And you

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Speaker 1: know that they drive, They drive to the forty two

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Speaker 1: on their open they hit the long pass down the

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Speaker 1: middle to Friar Mooth. They get to the forty two

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Speaker 1: or forty three I think it was, and it's fourth

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Speaker 1: and two. Mike Tomlin says, you know what, they're not

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Speaker 1: getting any for downs today. I'm just gonna punt the football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then they get the ball right back, which showed

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Speaker 1: it was you know, the right move. They go back

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Speaker 1: in again. The touchdown passes to Deontay Johnson, which was

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Speaker 1: a touchdown pass, yeah, and it doesn't you know, they

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Speaker 1: don't call it that, and then Warren fumbles on the

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Speaker 1: next play.

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Speaker 2: And I'd say those two plays were a terrible back

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Speaker 2: to back situation. I mean, yeah, I mean, because could

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Speaker 2: have reviewed it didn't then the next play fumble. You know, like, frankly,

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Speaker 2: if either one of those plays doesn't happen or happen

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Speaker 2: slightly different, I think you're like, you're just the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: you're just kind of cruising.

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Speaker 1: Kicking your feet up, and you know, yeah, everybody's standing

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Speaker 1: on the sideline in hats. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And that was the only time I was worried, was like, whoa,

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Speaker 2: that didn't happen at the right time, and this thing's

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Speaker 2: closer than it should be. Don't let a team hang around,

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Speaker 2: especially in division. But clearly the Steelers were the better team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was the defenses really start. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand it. You know, it's it's back to back

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Speaker 1: up quarterback. Yeah, back back up quarterbacks. I get it.

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Speaker 1: But that's what you're supposed to do against those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not allowing hardly any points. You're shutting down

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Speaker 2: the run week after week. Now I get to throw

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Speaker 2: Minca into the mix. Yeah, Landon Roberts is playing every snap,

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Speaker 2: and well you might just have a shutdown corner in

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Speaker 1: Might have that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so, I got an interesting tweet yesterday

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Speaker 2: or whatever about Porter saying paraphrasing the tweet was something like,

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Speaker 2: I know he didn't start the season as a starter,

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Speaker 2: but since he's been in as a as a regular starter, now,

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Speaker 2: is it is Porter's season any different than Sauce Gardener's

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Speaker 2: last year? Not really, And I can't thought about him

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Speaker 2: like not really. I mean it's a smaller sample side

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Speaker 2: didn't start in week one till now, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Look who's matching up against every week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Chase example is like, wow, this

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Speaker 2: is to a new level. Cooper and Hopkins are very

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Speaker 2: good players. I mean they really are. Chase is an

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Speaker 2: elite player, you know, and it maybe even a little

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Speaker 2: different with Burrow, but these people to chart just Porter

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And you know, even some of

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Speaker 1: the times that Cincinnati did move the ball yesterday. It

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Speaker 2: Yards, you know, is one of which could have been

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Speaker 2: they had any consistency to their offense. We were talking

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Speaker 2: off the air. They basically didn't even try to run

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Speaker 1: It was crazy coaching malpractice for them not to try

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Speaker 1: to run. They ran the ball conventionally eight times the entire.

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Speaker 2: Game times and they were fortunate they were still able

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Speaker 1: I think Burrow had I should say Mixon had one

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Speaker 2: We had the screen pass that was one of their

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Speaker 1: He had three three carries in the second half, second half, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's give it a joke at that point, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know what Pittsburgh is doing. Yeah, defensively, scheme some

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Speaker 1: three yards on first down from your running game is

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Speaker 1: better than what is better than what you were doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, Tomlin, I think in that same

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Speaker 2: instance would have said, I'll take three three yards absolutely

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Speaker 2: not the mix is a superstar is a better name

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Speaker 2: didn't make any sense to me. And I was looking

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Speaker 1: Quick over the last seven games, and that's a big stretch.

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Speaker 2: Are allowing fifteen points a game? Oh yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Cour and it's not it's not all against slappies, no exactly.

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Speaker 2: seven game stretch, that's phenomenal. Yeah, And TJ wasn't there

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Speaker 1: In the constant has been TJ. Watt. He now leads

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Speaker 1: the league in sacks again. He's at thirteen and a half. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's got six pass defenses. Yeah, he's got in the

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, as I as we talked about

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Speaker 1: Like now that the Steelers, they put that on film

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Speaker 1: that anymore. No, their offense isn't nearly good enough to

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Speaker 2: And I give that Browns coaching staff a lot of credit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they devised a game plan to win that Sunday,

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Speaker 1: The rest of the year. And they did some stupid

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Speaker 2: And they're desperate, a lot of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And absolutely and now DTR might even be banged up.

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Speaker 2: I mean Walker had to come in. I think their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're done, they're done. So you know the Steelers again,

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Speaker 1: you know, it looks like they'll probably get Mika Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: Who am I missing here? They make it for a stretch,

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Speaker 2: Four, seven and four. Now they're doing really good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I thought yesterday might have been even their best

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they didn't score enough points. They only scored

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Speaker 2: sixteen points. But I thought they controlled the game.

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Speaker 1: Honestly though. I thought if they wanted to score more

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Speaker 1: I thought they played for the field goal on the

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Speaker 1: And we'll be fine as opposed to okay, we got

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Speaker 2: I thought they controlled the game. I mean, really did

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Speaker 2: don't think Cincinnati is great, but I don't think Arizona's great.

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Speaker 2: I don't think New England's great. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, we were talking about Cincinnati like they're

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Speaker 1: the best team in AFC North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe that at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right now. So a lot of that was Burrow.

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Speaker 1: But they're I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're obviously done too. Yeah, they're cooked. And

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Speaker 2: maybe Buffalo's done.

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Speaker 1: I mean Buffalo, I've said three weeks ago, Buffalo's done.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's done. I think they're done done.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're five hundred and they're a good team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's supposed to be. I'll be interested when

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Speaker 1: I see the power rankings tomorrow. I would have Buffalo high.

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Speaker 2: I think they can play with anybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can they beat anybody? Though that's the total year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like that game almost epitomize both those seasons.

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Speaker 2: You know, Eagles, should they only be a one lost.

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Speaker 1: Team, I don't know. There's an art to knowing how

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Speaker 1: to win those.

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Speaker 2: Games, get it. But the Steelers are the same way

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Speaker 2: anybody right and there. I don't think they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were either.

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Speaker 2: They dug themselves a crazy hole.

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Speaker 1: But there's a definite art to knowing how to close

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Speaker 1: those games. I texted you last night, I got home

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Speaker 1: right before the h the Baltimore Chargers Charger game was over.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers a chance to win that game, Yeah, Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they did it with the team that knows how

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Speaker 2: to take advantage of it worse than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a history of not coming through in

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Speaker 2: Quite possibly, quite possibly. I mean they are they need

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Speaker 1: You've got to shut down anybody. You got a shutdown cornerback,

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Speaker 1: Right. It's I mean, if i'd have to go back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I said fifteen points to the last

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Speaker 1: They've got you who they are.

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Speaker 2: The other stuff will see, well, determine how good you

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Speaker 1: But you I just look at it to you to

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Speaker 1: The Steelers don't feel fear Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: No, as I say, Baltimore Cleveland, if you get them

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Speaker 2: They're good. I was gonna say, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't know that either. I

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Speaker 2: They still haven't beaten anybody.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I mean you look at who they they're winning.

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Speaker 2: They just lost Jalen Phillips for the year too.

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Speaker 1: Maybe is good, but they're not beating them. But they're

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Speaker 1: talk about Kenny Pickett. Yeah, yeah, I thought he played

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just thought that that, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting to me. Yeah, more twelve personnel, more

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Speaker 1: To be fair, you were missing friarm with for five

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, you know, so I don't know if multiple titles.

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Speaker 2: Yeahh So is this a just the thirteen to twelve stuff?

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Speaker 1: I'll take my chances with that.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play Nickel against thirteen, good luck, because Washington's

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Speaker 1: And Harris is gonna run over your defensive.

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Speaker 2: Benks exactly exactly. So I think that's a really interesting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give it to him.

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Speaker 2: And I also wrote in that article, this has been

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Speaker 2: I don't care what the numbers say. And I think

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Speaker 1: a little windy there. It was kind of cold, you know,

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Speaker 1: not terrible, terrible weather, but ugly, you know, northeast mid

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Speaker 1: November weather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the reason I asked is because a picket.

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, it's like, not that I'm

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Speaker 2: worried about the small hands or any of that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff all that much, but I just want to

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Speaker 2: see he's still young. I mean, I want to see

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Speaker 2: if he's a mutter. I mean, Ben was like as

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Speaker 2: good as it gets with that kind of stuff, and

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Speaker 2: I thought he handled that stuff extremely well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he controlled the football really well, no matter what the

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Speaker 2: weather was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he dropped some dimes yesterday. Really Actually, the touchdown

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Speaker 1: throw that he made to Johnson that was ruled not

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Speaker 1: a touchdown beautiful. I Mean I don't know that you

450
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Speaker 1: could throw that much better than.

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Speaker 2: It was, like you handed it to He layered throws well,

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Speaker 2: I thought his timing was really good. Yeah, so there

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Speaker 2: was a lot to like.

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Speaker 1: The two throws down the middle to to to uh

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Speaker 1: Friarmouth just split the safety, you know, you gotta get

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Speaker 1: it over top of the linebackers.

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Speaker 2: The fade the pickings out of the slot too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that wasn't just a chuck it up and hope he

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Speaker 2: makes play now.

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Speaker 1: The throw down the sidelines to Johnson, I mean he

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Speaker 1: made some big time throws. I haven't looked at the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football focused stats to see how many big time

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Speaker 1: throws they credited him with yesterday, but he had a

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Speaker 1: bunch of those, and I know there weren't any turnover

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Speaker 1: worthy throws. No.

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Speaker 2: His interception streak is crazy right now. Yeah, two eight

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Speaker 2: I think it is right.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's insane. And that's you know, if you

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Speaker 1: can do if you can mesh those things together, you

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Speaker 1: see what. Yeah, then you get those kind of games.

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Speaker 2: And I do think more often than not, if the

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Speaker 2: Steelers offense plays that exact game, you end up in

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Speaker 2: the twenties, not in sixteen.

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Speaker 1: You might end up in the thirties. Yeah, because usually

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert's theory on that was it ten yards for

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Speaker 1: every point. So if you have three hundred yards, you

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Speaker 1: should have thirty points and that never works out that way.

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Speaker 2: I say that seems a little generous.

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Speaker 1: But if you're operating at you know peak, so you know,

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Speaker 1: if you get three fifty, then you know four hundred

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Speaker 1: you should be.

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Speaker 2: In the thirties or yeah, yeah, I could buy that. No,

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Speaker 2: but they they earned their yards too. It wasn't a

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Speaker 2: cheapy here and there. No, it was a fair amount

485
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Speaker 2: of explosives, but a lot of efficiency too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, we're gonna get to a break. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: You're on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 1: right after this. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly

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Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt

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Speaker 1: one of the stats that you've been throwing out in

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Speaker 1: recent weeks is the number of plays run against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: As a peah boy, this tickles my soul out of

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Speaker 1: that yesterday that flipped in a big way yesterday the

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Speaker 1: Steelers ran sixty eight offensive plays to forty one.

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Speaker 2: That's the for Cincinnata formula. Yeah, that's that was a

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Speaker 2: big thing that's worried me going into the Browns game

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Speaker 2: because they're the best at it this year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it was like, wow, it's you just can't because

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Speaker 2: you know late in the game, Like I always go

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Speaker 2: back to that Browns Ravens game right before the Browns

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Speaker 2: played the Steelers. How on earth could the Browns have

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Speaker 2: won that game in Baltimore? They ran twenty five more plays.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a team like that, I just

507
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Speaker 2: think you're a body puncher that the fifteenth round is

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Speaker 2: no fun for your for your repent.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe you don't.

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Speaker 2: Knock people out with eighty r bombs, but if you

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Speaker 2: can body punch, you're in good shape.

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Speaker 1: Well so, you know, even in that game yesterday, like

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Speaker 1: Harris's last couple of carry two of his last three

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Speaker 1: carries twenty two yards thirteen yards just gets runs them

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Speaker 1: right into field goal range because they're tired of tackle

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Speaker 1: on it. You didn't even carry the ball that much.

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Speaker 1: You only had what U fifteen carries in the game,

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Speaker 1: but I mean they.

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Speaker 2: Still were fifty percent. I think it was what thirty

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Speaker 2: three to thirty three, whatever it was. They're fifty run,

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Speaker 2: fifty percent pass, you know. I mean, like that's a heavy.

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Speaker 1: Run dosage for today's NFL. Yeah, So it ended up,

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Speaker 1: you know that wins you. The time of possession, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirty seven seventeen to twenty two forty three.

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Speaker 2: So I've done a little bit of you know, just

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Speaker 2: stuff you can look ahead. Usually I do that Tuesday

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Speaker 2: after the Monday night game. So I was just looking

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Speaker 2: at Steelers Arizona time of possession, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 2: So the Steelers are now at twenty eight to thirty. Arizona,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is a twenty seven to forty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but over the past three games, the Steelers are thirty

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Speaker 2: two oh seven and the Cardinals are at twenty seven

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Speaker 2: to twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That's just who they are better, right, That's just who.

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Speaker 2: They are better, right, the bads. I mean, the Cardinals

536
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Speaker 2: past week were twenty five oh eight. Like, if that's.

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Speaker 1: How what they come here against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Against the Rams, I mean, if they hold the ball

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Speaker 2: for twenty five twenty five minutes in Pittsburgh, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: lose by a million and just be beat up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, you mentioned the playoff picture. Yeah, so looking

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Speaker 1: at here's what everybody has left. So right now, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens are the number one seed in the AFC because

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Speaker 1: they haven't had their buy yet. They're nine and three.

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Speaker 2: I think their upcoming this week, Yeah, they.

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Speaker 1: Have their think the sixteen. There's a bunch of teams

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Speaker 1: on the buys this week. Yeah, so the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: one of them. They come out of that, they have

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Speaker 1: their nine and three. Then they play the Rams at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Those both aren't easy games. I like what the Rams

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Speaker 2: are doing all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: At San Francisco, Miami and then Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, they're going to have a couple more losses,

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Speaker 2: a lot more difficult than I remembered. That's not easy

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Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, So somebody texted me something along those

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Speaker 2: lines that's wanted to double check. All right, go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, Kansas City right now is eight and three. Here's

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Speaker 1: what they have left. At Green Bay, Buffalo at home,

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Speaker 1: at Green Bay, at New England, Las Vegas at home,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati at home, and then at the Chargers they got

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Speaker 1: maybe one more loss. Yeah maybe maybe you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't even know. Where who would beat them there?

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Speaker 1: They'd have to lose the Buffalo at home.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think the Chargers can at this point.

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Speaker 1: They're making golfers. I mean, they should beat Green Bay

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Speaker 1: this week. I would think they should. They'll be favored

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Speaker 1: against Buffalo at home.

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Speaker 2: Like yesterday they got challenged for a half and then

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Speaker 2: blew them away. That's probably how they.

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Speaker 1: Got the Raiders again. This one's at home. They got

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, who might be the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 1: They're horrendous, horrendous.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to read this because I this dude,

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Speaker 2: Gasper asked echoes, so hopefully he's listening. Sounds like he's

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Speaker 2: a big fan and listens to drive all the time.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: He said, ESPN's playoff machine is up. You know how

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Speaker 2: they could do all the all the different things. And

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Speaker 2: he said, did you realize that if Pittsburgh wins the

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Speaker 2: next four games? I mean, I understand that's a big

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Speaker 2: bite in any league. Right that's Arizona, New England in

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Speaker 2: de Cincy again.

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Speaker 1: Win the next four, they're favored in all four of those.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be favored in all four and Baltimore loses

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Speaker 2: just once and he goes at San Francisco for example. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: then regardless of the Seattle game, in week seventeen, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's for the FC North Crown.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I realized that completely.

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Speaker 2: I didn't until then. I gave it a nice little

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Speaker 2: like I'm like, there you go, Yeah, that's not.

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Speaker 1: Crazy talk when I bring that up. Oh, you're just

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Speaker 1: being a homer. No, I'm being a realist that's looking

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Speaker 1: at things realistically.

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Speaker 2: Here those four teams, Indy worries me.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but their defense isn't good.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean, but winning the next four is possible.

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Speaker 2: It's not like, well, if you go to Kansas City

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Speaker 2: and win, and then you right, winning the next four

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Speaker 2: is possible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that's what right, Kansas, That's what Kansas City has.

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Speaker 1: I think Kansas City is going to be there, although

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Speaker 1: it could be Jacksonville. Here's what Jacksonville isn't difficult. Yeah, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: they win that game at Cleveland, probably probably game. I

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Speaker 1: think Cleveland's holding on for dear life. Then they host Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: That's a bigger game I think than anybody's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the difference between a two seed and three

607
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Speaker 2: seed could be or could be the one one two.

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Speaker 1: If Jacksonville wins that game in Kansas City stumbles along.

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Speaker 2: The line, that's the problem because then Jacksonville is at

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, Carolina at Tennessee, so they probably lose one

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Speaker 2: more maybe, I mean they're favored in all those, but

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Speaker 2: maybe not Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not against Baltimore at home, but that might be

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Speaker 1: a pick. Yeah, it's in Jacksonville. H then you get Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then you have Miami.

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Speaker 2: So Jacksonville is gonna win their division minimal. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: win yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was huge. Huge. Miami's eight and three right

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Speaker 1: now at Washington win, Tennessee win, Jets at home, win

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Speaker 1: Dallas at home. They got a three game home stretch.

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Speaker 1: That's a big, big. One of those two teams is

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Speaker 1: going to get a win against a team with a

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Speaker 1: winning record. Neither one of them has one yet, So.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Dallas. I do think Miami is close to.

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Speaker 1: As good as Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so either, but neither one does a

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Speaker 2: great resume of beating good.

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Speaker 1: Team coming out of that game. Dallas at home at Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: it's going to matter. And then Buffalo at home.

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Speaker 2: I would assume Buffalo hasn't cashed it in.

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Speaker 1: I think they lose at least two more games.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like two loss They're.

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Speaker 1: Not going to be the number one seed, but they'll

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Speaker 1: be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think they win the division. They're probably the four.

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Speaker 1: For the Steelers. We're at seven and four. Remember one

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Speaker 1: game in the lost column behind those teams. Arizona favored, favored,

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Speaker 1: New England favored. At Indianapolis probably favored. Might be a

639
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Speaker 1: small one point game, but yeah, Cincinnati at home favored. Yea,

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Speaker 1: they may have really cashed it in by that. At Seattle,

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Speaker 1: probably a dog, and then at Baltimore, probably a dog. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but let's say two more losses. Let's just take a

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Speaker 1: look here real quick before we get too far down

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Speaker 1: the rabbit hole with this one. Here's what Seattle has left.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, and they're in the middle of.

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Speaker 1: It right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah too.

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Speaker 1: At Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on a two game losing street after getting

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Speaker 2: hammered by the Niners.

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Speaker 1: At Dallas, at San Francisco, Philadelphia at home. Then they

652
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Speaker 1: get ten at Tennessee, Pittsburgh at home. At Arizona.

653
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: They might have two more wins.

654
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: They might be they might be a little beat up

655
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: at that point.

656
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: No, that for people don't realize their four game stretch

657
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: was well, they had one of them already, Niners, Dallas Niners, Eagles.

658
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. I mean they might be out

659
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: of the playoff picture, you know, at that point, it's possible.

660
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: And I mean they're already a little banged up as

661
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: it is. I can't imagine playing those that murderers row

662
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: is going to make things any better.

663
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: And by then they may have fallen behind the Packers

664
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: or the Vikes, yeah, or the Rams or you know,

665
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: or all three.

666
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland, here's what Cleveland has left now they have four

667
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: losses as well, But here's what they got at the Rams.

668
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: There can be dogs in that game. There there'll be

669
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: dogs in that game. They stayed out there, actually they yeah,

670
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: and thought that okay, with all the injuries now that

671
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: they have as well, Like okay as Amari, Yeah, you

672
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: get a rib problem, you're sleeping in the hotel for

673
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: the week, that works, Yeah, he got he had a ribbage.

674
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, you get that shoulder issue or whatever it is,

675
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: you're sleeping in a hotel bed.

676
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Part of me thinks my phone is gonna ding any

677
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: second and say, Miles.

678
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Speaker 1: Garretts oft of the Year might happen.

679
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying it just has that feel

680
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, pop is not a good word.

681
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: No. Uh So then they come back home, they're against

682
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Dog. I think I think their dog is currently constructed.

683
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Their dog in that game, even if it's a blizzard

684
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: or Chicago at home. Now you might look like there playing. Yeah,

685
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: you might look at that game and say, oh, they'll

686
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: be that's a running team with a quarterback who can

687
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: take one to the house at twelve.

688
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, no, one's getting a thirty in

689
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: that game.

690
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: No, And the Bears defense has actually played better.

691
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: They're both like the sloppiest weather team. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

692
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a slop fest.

693
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Then you're at Houston Dog Jets at home at Cincinnati,

694
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: so they've got a couple of losses in there. For sure.

695
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: They're losing the Jacksonville and Houston mm hmm. And then

696
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: if they lose a game to the Rams, or they

697
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: lose they drop a game to Chicago, like.

698
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: They're they're losing a lot of dudes right now though. Yeah,

699
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: is Flacco the quarterback at some point maybe maybe you know.

700
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: What happens, you know, Flacco Flacco at home in Cleveland

701
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: against the Jets in like the Jets. Is that just good?

702
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: They're not throwing the ball against the Jets? Is that first? Maybe? Yeah?

703
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna the recipe for all their games.

704
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's dicey.

705
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't see their offense getting better. No, the Steelers

706
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: offense is showing progress.

707
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Ye. Their offense is actually gonna get worse.

708
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna get worse.

709
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, because we know Amari Cooper doesn't like weather.

710
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you said last segment, I do think

711
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: they they showed their cards against the Steelers. I mean,

712
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: this is all we can do and best of luck.

713
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: Here's what the Colts have. They're six and five right now.

714
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: They would be the seventh seed at Tennessee.

715
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: Should win that game.

716
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: There's a rock paper scissors. Yeah yeah, at Cincinnati, should

717
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: win that game. Pittsburgh at home going be important game

718
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: no matter what. At Atlanta, O, what's to spread in

719
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: that game? Today? At Atlanta? Colts at Atlanta is I'm

720
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna say Falcons Falcons minus one? Yeah, I'm on, I'm

721
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: on board with that, then they get the Raiders at home,

722
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: not an easy game, not an easy game. And then

723
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: they finished with Houston at home, probably a loss. They

724
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: get a couple of losses a couple, but they're still

725
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: a playoff contact and for them, they could beat or

726
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: they could lose to anybody. They're not like a, oh

727
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: that's a juggernaut like people are talking about Kenny Pickett's numbers.

728
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Look up, Look up and see what Minshew has done.

729
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot.

730
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: No, I think they're a slightly above average team. And

731
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: they've been a very successful year for new coach Richardson

732
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: first pick, you know if you throw him in the

733
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: mixed next year. So they're building something.

734
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: There in the hunt. Still you got in the eighth

735
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: spot right now is Houston. And we saw, already saw

736
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Houston pops up on a lot of those schedules for

737
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: the teams ahead of the Denver at home, at the

738
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Jets at Tennessee, should Cleveland at home. I think they're

739
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: better in Cleveland, Tennessee at home at Indianapolis not bad.

740
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: I like their path, a lot of division games, a.

741
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Lot of division games. That game. Indianapolis already beat them

742
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: in Houston this year, So keep that in mind. I

743
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: think Houston's better overall, but you know, it does a

744
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: matter for one game. Yeah, you know, if you lose

745
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: a couple of those games, you might be, you know,

746
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: in a little bit of trouble. Denver's remaining schedule a

747
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: five game win streak, which is bonkers. At Houston, huge

748
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: game this week.

749
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a loser leave time match, but boy,

750
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: the winners damaging.

751
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that.

752
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: Means a lot.

753
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: At the Chargers, I think they're shot at Detroit O,

754
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: New England at home, Chargers at home, and then at

755
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: Las Vegas.

756
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: We have two more losses.

757
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that would be leave them with And we're

758
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: saying that we're like everybody, everybody's going to finish with

759
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: ten wins. Can't happen. The whole conference is not going

760
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: to finish with ten wins. Buffalo's remaining schedules, they get

761
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: their buy this week. They're six and six right now,

762
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: so how many can they afford to lose? Really with

763
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: their tie breakers because of all their conference losses, they

764
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: can only afford one more loss at Kansas City coming

765
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: out of their buy. At Kansas City, that's almost a

766
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: must win. Yeah, i'd have to win that way. They

767
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: lose that when they're one hundred percent done. Yeah, Dallas

768
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: at home at the Chargers, New England at home at Miami.

769
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: If they can get the next two somehow, or really,

770
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 2: if you can get Kansas City, then they're still alive.

771
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: But man, I mean they're five hundred.

772
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: They're five hundred. Yeah, and all their tie breakers are bad,

773
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: all of them are bad. Bengals are done. We'd being

774
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna go any further down the rabbit hole in the AFC.

775
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Everybody else is out of it. The Raiders chance, Yeah,

776
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: the Bengals are shot. The Raiders are shot, the Chargers

777
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: are shot.

778
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he survives today.

779
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: That Eagles schedule, like the way that they're winning these games,

780
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. This week, they get San Francisco this

781
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: week in Philadelphia, then they're at Dallas, at Seattle, the

782
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: Giants at home Arizona and home at the Giants.

783
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: They could I mean a were Sty'll be fourteen and three. Yeah,

784
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: they won some big games.

785
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for them. The Niners still have at Philadelphia,

786
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: Seattle at home at Arizona, Baltimore at home at Washington,

787
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: and then the Rams home.

788
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Do we think that game next week is for the

789
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: number one seed?

790
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, if Philly wins it that the number one seed

791
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: is locked up, it's done. Yeah, but San Francisco has

792
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: to win that game just to have a shot, just.

793
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: A shot for the one.

794
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

795
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: I think they are the two best teams in the league.

796
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that a f C. The AFC. Again, there's

797
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: there's nobody in the AFC that I look at and go, oh,

798
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: there's no way the Steelers could beat them.

799
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure people are like, you guys are crazy.

800
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: They can't go into Kansas City. Maybe we are crazy.

801
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Kansas City is really good, and they would be.

802
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: No, they'd be an eight and a half point. They'd

803
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: be an underdog, there's no doubt about it. But I

804
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: don't fear this Kansas City team like I did in

805
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: previous year.

806
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: The Ones or the sum Ones. Right, they could still

807
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, there's still I still have a

808
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: massive respect for them. But the one people keep asking

809
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: about Miami, It's like, I don't think my chances in Miami.

810
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: Especially with what they lost their best pass rusher. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

811
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: they're they're very finesse, so interesting. And you know, let's say,

812
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: for example, the Ravens stumble a couple of times here

813
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: down the stretch, including one in the in the regular

814
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: season finale against the Steelers. Yeah, Steelers can win the division.

815
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: That's what's it. Yeah, I mean again, that tweet blew

816
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: me away. So Steelers win the next four, which I understand.

817
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: A five game winning streak in this league is an

818
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: easy no matter what.

819
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: Never just did it talking about a team they gave

820
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: up seventy points earlier this year, they now have a

821
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: five game winning streak.

822
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: I think I just heard this that they they've let

823
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: up less points since that game than they did in

824
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: that game. And that was a long time because it

825
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: was like one hundred degrees in Miami.

826
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: You never say the NFL is such a week to

827
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: week league. You never say never, if any if if

828
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: Steeler fans didn't learn that in nineteen eighty nine, then

829
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: they either haven't been around long enough to remember nineteen seven,

830
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: five years old. I mean, they lost the first two

831
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: games of the season by combined ninety two to ten.

832
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, both told those stories about.

833
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: It made the AFC chanp almost made. They didn't make

834
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game they came into the play of

835
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship that year.

836
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: Like after Week two where they thirty second.

837
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Oh, without a doubt, they were ninety two to ten,

838
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: and Chuck Oldshan, I hope he just played the two

839
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: best teams in the league. Like, yeah, you know, they're

840
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: sitting pretty right now.

841
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, whether winning the division is lofty, I mean,

842
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't think any of us is like, oh, they

843
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: got it right.

844
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: I would not say they're a favor to do that,

845
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: but it's the possibility, is there.

846
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: I like their chances better than Cleveland to win the division, Yes, yeah,

847
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of think it's a two horse race.

848
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: I like the chances to make the playoffs better than Cleveland.

849
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: I think there's a better team. Yeah, for that question.

850
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: And they're playing, you know again, that game last week.

851
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: I get it. It was bad, but it was winnable

852
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: in Cleveland.

853
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: It was a pretty equal match.

854
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: And Cleveland's defensive splits home and away. They're real, They're drastic. Yeah,

855
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Denver moved the ball pretty consistently against them yesterday. You

856
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: know they were when they rest aroun one hundred and

857
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: fifty yards against them.

858
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but they were ok on the ground.

859
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yeah, so yeah, we're gonna get to a break.

860
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080
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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawlly. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the Drive. You're on Steelers Nation Radio, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Other than the three tight end stuff and the obvious,

872
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Speaker 1: you know how they used that stuff. Did you see

873
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot of other differences with the Steelers offense yesterday?

874
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: There was a little bit more play action, but you

875
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: can do that when you're running the football.

876
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Speaker 2: Yeah, effectively, I mean obviously the targets to the middle

877
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: of the field, slash tight end stuff stood out. Doesn't

878
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Speaker 2: mean they wouldn't have featured Friarmooth anyways, I mean tortured them.

879
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Say he tore them part last year. Yeah, and he

880
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: was finally healthy. They're like the worst team in the

881
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: league against the tight end that could have been in

882
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: the game plan anyway. Who knows play action was up.

883
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Speaker 2: I was happy to see that. I mean, I think

884
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Speaker 2: you'd really have to be in the walls to know.

885
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Speaker 2: And the one thing I don't know one hundred percent

886
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Speaker 2: but you read is and this isn't uncommon, you know,

887
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Speaker 2: Matt Canada would build the game plan himself. Well, apparently

888
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: this was more of a group project throughout the week. Okay,

889
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure there was a lot of stuff during the

890
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: week that was done differently. I'm sure play sequencing was different,

891
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, than he would have called him of course.

892
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: But it was a very efficient, well thought out game plan,

893
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: well executed game plan. But I didn't look at and

894
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: be like, WHOA, that's unbelievably night and day different than

895
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: what we've seen in terms of play calls, strategies, things

896
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Speaker 2: like that.

897
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Speaker 1: The only thing that I saw that I could really say, okay,

898
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Speaker 1: that was less than what I've seen before in previous weeks, fewer.

899
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Speaker 1: They threw like two passes behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah,

900
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Speaker 1: and interesting left both of them got blown up.

901
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: They did. Yes, that's a great call. I mean, I

902
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: think there's obviously there's more to the middle of the field,

903
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: less to behind the line of scrimmage, less to the flats,

904
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Speaker 2: which needed to happen. But we said this week's ago

905
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Speaker 2: there were open receivers in the middle of the field

906
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: throughout the course of the year that the ball just

907
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: didn't come out.

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Speaker 1: It may be just a matter of Again, it could

909
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Speaker 1: be the defense you're playing. Cincinnati's defense is awful.

910
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, also playing against them should be tacked the middle field.

911
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: With you and I could have come up with a

912
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: game plan that would have gotten three hundred and fifty

913
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Speaker 1: yards against that particular defense.

914
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Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't seen any thirteen all year, so

915
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Speaker 2: that was interesting to see. I mean it was very encouraging.

916
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Speaker 2: Like I'm not disparaging what the new staff.

917
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Speaker 1: No I'm not either, but I don't people are going

918
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Speaker 1: to point to that and say, well, see they fixed

919
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: this and this. It was just that easy.

920
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Speaker 2: So this makes me a little crazy.

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00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: I just don't know, because they played such a Cincinnati's

922
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: defense is so bad.

923
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: It's so bad.

924
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so bad. Yeah, Arizona's defense this upcoming week is

925
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: so bad.

926
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Speaker 2: So I've been on record. I think making the coordinator

927
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: change was necessary. Things were going badly, and game one

928
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Speaker 2: it's paying off. I think it'll pay off no matter what.

929
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Speaker 2: I'm excited about this offense going forward. But it makes

930
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Speaker 2: me insane that after that game I get twenty individuals.

931
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Speaker 2: See right, I told you what the problem was like

932
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Speaker 2: that person was the first one to think about maybe

933
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: firing Mack Canada should be thought of, like you came

934
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Speaker 2: up with this plan problem three years ago exactly, you know, like, hey,

935
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Speaker 2: I think it's working out. I think the team's happy

936
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Speaker 2: with how things are going. It's a move I would

937
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Speaker 2: have made at that time. But please don't think you're

938
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Speaker 2: the only one that came up with this idea. And

939
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Speaker 2: you're right and all of us are wrong that there's

940
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Speaker 2: more layers to this than just now everything's fixed and

941
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Speaker 2: they're gonna put up forty points a game.

942
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Speaker 1: Honestly, the only person who probably knows for sure, well,

943
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Speaker 1: there's two people, can you piket am Ike Tomlin? Yeah,

944
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Speaker 1: outside of that, because they're the only other guys that

945
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Speaker 1: are on the headphones and have been on the headset

946
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Speaker 1: for every single play that's been called the last three years.

947
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Speaker 2: They said something on the air about some of the

948
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Speaker 2: communication stuff in game. They weren't happy with the last

949
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Speaker 2: couple of games. I don't know if that's true. I

950
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Speaker 2: don't know who told the color guy that. So maybe

951
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Speaker 2: that the whole process was cleaner. I don't know.

952
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: I well, that would coincide when when with when tom

953
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: uh Tomlin told Canada he's moving to the sideline.

954
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think that was part of it. Then,

955
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I know that, I don't know.

956
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: I mean I know that much.

957
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Speaker 1: I do know.

958
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: Play action was up, thrown, the middle fielder up. When

959
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: I was asked last week, what do you want to

960
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Speaker 2: see different? Those are the two things I cited. So

961
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Speaker 2: that makes me happy. I think they needed to happen.

962
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Speaker 2: It seemed like there was more under center, less throws

963
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Speaker 2: to the flat as you mentioned. Good, but it's not

964
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: wholesale sweeping changes.

965
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Speaker 1: No, you're still there's still running Matt Canada's offense.

966
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's all the same verbiage, it's the same

967
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Speaker 2: play as Maybe you'll cut some things out. Maybe you're

968
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Speaker 2: you'll get input throughout the week differently.

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Speaker 1: I get that, Yeah, but you're also playing You're not

970
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Speaker 1: playing the Browns in Cleveland. You know you're not You're

971
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Speaker 1: not playing the forty nine ers. You're not playing the Ravens.

972
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Speaker 1: You know, you know the defenses that they face, the

973
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Speaker 1: slate of defenses that they face. We said this last week.

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Speaker 1: Historically it's been ridiculously tough, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't make us Matt Canada. It's just

976
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Speaker 2: a real against you as impartial as possible.

977
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Speaker 1: Those are real things. Those are real things.

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Speaker 2: They played the hardest slate of defenses before today that

979
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Speaker 2: anyone has in a long time. You know, I just

980
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: think that you have to note that it makes me crazy.

981
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: I mean that that is absolutely part of it.

982
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Speaker 1: That being said, you know, they they what Mike Tomlins said,

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Speaker 1: if you if you look at the uh, the thing

984
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Speaker 1: that Bob Labriola does that he released it on Sunday,

985
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: they quick question and answer that he does with Mike Tomlin.

986
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Speaker 1: You know, Bob was asked him point blank, what do

987
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Speaker 1: you want to see here? And he said more fluidity?

988
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: And I thought we saw more fluidity.

989
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't seen that call him. But yes, it

990
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Speaker 2: did seem to be crisper, and that's great. I mean that,

991
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to be said for that.

992
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: So everyone knows about the streak of four hundred yards

993
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 2: that was broken. You know, it was a long one.

994
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Speaker 2: Of course, that's not okay by any means, but Mike

995
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: Sando put it out today. During that streak, guess what

996
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers winning percentage.

997
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: Was, Oh, probably about six hundred. It's exactly six hundred. Yeah,

998
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, like I hadn't seen a tweet, but that

999
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Speaker 1: would be my you.

1000
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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, that was his call him today on the

1001
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Speaker 2: Athletic was he does like, you know, kind of like

1002
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Speaker 2: you he does like ten points from around the league

1003
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and one of them was, oh, it looks

1004
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: like a lot different. But he's like they won sixty

1005
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Speaker 2: percent games or at that stretch. Yeah, they didn't. It's

1006
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Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, I mean again, I'm not making this

1007
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Speaker 2: stuff up. These are just numbers that are there.

1008
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Speaker 1: You know, I just think that they have heavy shirt

1009
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Speaker 1: even yet if it's a sixteen to ten game, you know,

1010
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Speaker 1: it could have been sixteen to seven, could whatever. Yeah,

1011
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, it was good. It ended up sixteen ten

1012
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: you controlled the game with your offense. Yeah, but she

1013
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: still didn't score a bunch of points. No, No, And

1014
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Speaker 1: I think they will come.

1015
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very optimistic about this offense now, not

1016
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Speaker 2: that it's gonna be a best in the league, but

1017
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Speaker 2: I do think the passing game. If the passing game

1018
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Speaker 2: can go to average, yeah, this team'd be hard to beat.

1019
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Again, I can't the games they played without Deontay Johnson

1020
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: and Pat Farremouth on offense, some offensive lineman bagging up.

1021
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Those things matter too. And again I'm not making excuses

1022
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: for Matt Canada or anything. The offense was better yesterday.

1023
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's our best offensive game of the week

1024
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: of the season. And I hope next week's better.

1025
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: I'd like see him score more points. Yeah, but if

1026
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: you think about it, who they scored, You know, when

1027
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: they've scored into twenties and done those kind of things,

1028
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Raiders, it wasn't the Browns and Ravens

1029
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: nine ers. Now, now you've had a good game where

1030
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Speaker 1: you successfully moved the ball against the Bengals, Like, yeah,

1031
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to do when you play

1032
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: sub par defenses, and those teams have subpar defenses. Steelers

1033
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: moved the ball pretty consistently in those games. The Titans

1034
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: game moved the ball pretty consistently.

1035
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: So I've heard this argument, which I don't think colds water. So, Matt,

1036
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Speaker 2: you cite that these defenses are the best in the

1037
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Speaker 2: league of the Steelers face, that's only because they played

1038
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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

1039
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Speaker 1: No, they've taken games. Look at what they've done against

1040
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: everybody else.

1041
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it isn't. I mean, I'm not making this stuff.

1042
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: The Steelers actually moved against those top defenses. The Steelers

1043
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: moved the ball better than most teams did against them

1044
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: games right now. They might not have scored as many

1045
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: points as some of the other teams did, but they

1046
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: they moved the ball pretty consistently. They moved the ball.

1047
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: They had yards against San Francisco. They've moved the ball.

1048
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Speaker 1: But in both games against Cleveland better than what Cleveland's

1049
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Speaker 1: average was.

1050
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly, especially at home. Yeah right, they ran

1051
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: the most yards. The Browns let up on the ground.

1052
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: You know, they threw the ball.

1053
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 2: But but you know, all I'm saying that I think

1054
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: this offense has been getting.

1055
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: Better for a while now, right, and they're getting all

1056
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and now they're completely healthy.

1057
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Speaker 2: And now they're completely healthy, and I think the best

1058
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: days are ahead of them, and maybe the coordinator change

1059
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: will take it even to another level. Great, that's what

1060
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping.

1061
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: That's that's what you hope for. That that's what the

1062
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: that's what the goal is.

1063
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: We're here here, Yeah, that's trying to get better.

1064
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: Anyways, we're gonna get to it. But I don't want to.

1065
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Speaker 1: I don't want to rain on everybody's parade. But that no, again,

1066
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Speaker 1: that's what I expected last day. Happened last week. I

1067
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Speaker 1: didn't care who was calling the plays. I expected them

1068
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Speaker 1: to move the football against the Bengals.

1069
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Speaker 2: The offense should be better after Thanksgiving than before. Yes,

1070
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Speaker 2: if I'm colling, no, not if I'm coming plate, But

1071
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Speaker 2: I mean if, no matter what, if they don't make

1072
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Speaker 2: the change, I would have been I would have killed

1073
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Speaker 2: Candada to day if if it was terrible against the Bengals.

1074
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Speaker 2: I mean, it should be better against the Bengals than

1075
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Speaker 2: the Browns, and these teams should be.

1076
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

1077
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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. Then I'll do it for our

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Speaker 1: the drive right after this