1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: At this hour, the mystery deepens in the search for 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: missing Riley Strain. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: I mean you see, Grace, this is Crime Stories. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Crime Stories 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: and on Serious XM one eleven. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: How can you turn a deaf ear to this? Listen, 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: play and talk to my boy for over. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: A week. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: And his art. 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: Excited somebody that gives up a part of their life 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: to help you find your life. It's amazing. 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 5: Thank you for getting the word out and keeping the 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 5: word out. And please keep don't stop sharing. Don't stop 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 5: sharing until we bring rightly home. Please just continue. 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I've got such a bad feeling. Where is Riley? This 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: kid scrubbed in sunshine? This is the boy every mom 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: wants their boy to be like, Okay, the apple of 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: his family's You were hearing his mother begging and pleading, crying, 19 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: trying to speak through tears, asking us to help Tip 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: line six one five eight six y two eighty six 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: hundred repeat six five eight six two eighty six hundred. 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Now is the. 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: Time for us to act in the search for Riley Strange. 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: And I've got to tell you one hundred a thousand 25 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: times mothers would come to me at trial and even 26 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: now begging for help. But at trial you have to 27 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: keep a clear head, unclouded with emotion, and look at 28 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: the facts in order to help the family. I want 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: you to hear the original nine to one one call. 30 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: Listen, who is it that you're wanting to report is missing? 31 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 6: It's we're here on a fraternity formal trip. It's it's 32 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 6: one of my good buddies. 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: Okay. What is his name? 34 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: His name is Riley Straine, Riley r I L E 35 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 6: Y Straane. 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: S T R A I N. 37 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: Okay? Is he white? Black? Hispanic Asian? 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 6: He's white. He's white, twenty two year old, six five blonde. 39 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 6: And what was he last man wearing outside of Luke 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 6: Brian's bar last night at like ten and then the 42 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 6: last time his location on his phone was by the 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 6: Sheriff's office like eleven pm. 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: Okay? What color clothing was he last man wearing. 45 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 6: He's wearing jeans, boots and a half black shirt, half brown, 46 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 6: light brown. 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: You're hearing a good of Riley's trains calling nine one one. 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: And how ironic is that one of his last pings, 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the location on the phone was at the Sheriff's office 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: in front of near around the Sheriff's office, no network 51 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: or phone service since nine fifty three p m. 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Where is Riley? 53 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: Joining me in all star panel to make sense of 54 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: what we know right now, I'm going to play you 55 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: more of the nine to one one call because I 56 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: have learned with working with so many many juries as 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: a felony prosecutor. That takes you to the moment and 58 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: you can learn so much about probative facts, facts that 59 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: proves something that help you find the person. But first 60 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: I want to go to a special guest joining us, 61 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Chris Dingman, a very dear family friend of the Strains, 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: and you can find them on to go fund me 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: at Riley's Strain. Chris, thank you for being with us. 64 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: What is the frame of mind of the family right 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: now in the search for their son. 66 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 7: The family's completely devastated, you know, we're ten eleven days 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 7: into this. Really rightly just disappeared in thin air, and 68 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 7: we try to keep faith, We keep hope. The ironic 69 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 7: part of not having clues means we have hope he's 70 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 7: still there lost. Somebody may know where he is, but 71 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 7: it is truly devastating on the family. 72 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: And shortly, speaking of clues, we are going to be 73 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: joined by the woman who may have found the single 74 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: most important clue as of right now. Back to you, 75 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Chris Dingman, a very dear friend and spokesman for Riley's family. 76 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: How did this whole thing unfold? 77 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: When did Riley's parents discover he's missing? I mean, it's 78 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: every parent's worst nightmare, you know, Chris. I work every day, 79 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: sometimes holding down two sometimes three jobs because I want 80 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: to make a college fund for my children to get 81 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: through high school. You know, give them tutors if they needed, 82 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: get them to college, give them every opportunity that a 83 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, never had to make it 84 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: easier for them. So Riley gets to college. He's doing great, 85 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: He makes friends in his fraternity. I think it was 86 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Delta Kai. Everything's going fine. He goes on their formal, 87 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: which all the college kids do, and all of a sudden, 88 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: Mom gets a call He's gone. 89 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: How does that happen? 90 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: You put all your love, all your energy, all your money, 91 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: everything into helping your children. You think going to college 92 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: is the thing to do, and bam, he's gone. 93 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: What happened? 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 8: Yeah? 95 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 7: The family was actually notified at about ten thirty Saturday 96 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 7: morning by his fraternity brothers wanting to know if they 97 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 7: had heard from Riley, because as we all know now, 98 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 7: he did not come back to his hotel room. The 99 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 7: family instantly told the boy, please contacted the police, go 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 7: down to the police station. They started packing a few 101 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 7: clothes together, constantly reaching out for Riley, hopped in a 102 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 7: car and started hitting that way. This process of reporting 103 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 7: Riley missing started actually at ten thirty Saturday morning, and 104 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 7: an official report that we have been shown didn't take 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 7: place till one sometime in that area. 106 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: That's how long it. 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 7: Took for the boys to actually get somebody to follow 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 7: an official report, with a lot of confusion on why 109 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 7: that took that, but yeah, the family was actually notified 110 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 7: about ten thirty Saturday morning. 111 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, you're hearing Chris Dingman joining us a very 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: dear friend of the Riley Strain family. Guys, I want 113 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: to hear more of that nine one one call. They 114 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: were hitting straight out to Dryden Quigley, WSMV four investigative 115 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: reporter for the very latest. 116 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: But let's hear the nine to one one call. Listen, 117 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: and you. 118 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: Said it last show outside the Sheriff's department like around 119 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: that area by the river by the Sheriff's department over there. Okay, 120 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: does he have any life sustaining medications or disabilities? No, 121 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: you said he has a phone. So it's a cell phone, right, yeah? 122 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 6: Did iPhone fifteen promax? 123 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: What is the number? 124 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 6: But it's hold on all. Are you ready? 125 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: Yes? 126 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: Go ahead? You said the last four. We're forty one 127 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: ninety eight. 128 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: Yes. 129 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: Okay. Are you going to be waiting at the at 130 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: the door of the precinct or are you going to 131 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: be waiting in your car? 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: I mean yeah, we're at the front door of the precinct. 133 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got to call sent there at the Central 134 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: Precinct six o one Korea Veterans Bullivoard and downtown right 135 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: across the Music City Center. We'll get an ulcer out 136 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: to you as soon as we can. Please tell us 137 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: back if something changes before they arrive. 138 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: So when you look back, when you look back on 139 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: every thing that happens, in every case, you think would have, 140 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: could have, should have. 141 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: They should have done the report earlier. 142 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: We should have this, we should have had bottom line, 143 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Riley Strain is missing his parents, asking us for their 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: help again. Tip line six one five eight six two 145 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: eighty six hundred. So, Chris Dingman, you're telling me that 146 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: the mom and or dad get a message the following 147 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: morning at ten ish a m. They ask the fraternity brother, quick, quick, 148 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: go report him missing right now, and they head to 149 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: the area. 150 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yes? 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 7: Yes, they were in Springfield, Missouri, where you know, Riley 152 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 7: was born and raised, and that's where we are. And uh, Instantly, 153 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 7: when a parent gets that message, you know, you're mortified. 154 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 7: What's going on, you know, especially when you're six or 155 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 7: seven hours away from your kid, you know. And they 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 7: they helped in a vehicle through some clothes together, was 157 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 7: constantly trying to reach out to Riley on their journey 158 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 7: there with the unfortunately no response. 159 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh cool, you know what that's reminding me of, Chris Dingman. 160 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm in New York where we lived with the children 161 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: at that time. They're about, oh gosh, eight nine years old, 162 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: had just gotten them to bed and get a call. 163 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: My dad is on life support. 164 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: I get one sentence off to him, Daddy, I'm on 165 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: the way, and within fifteen minutes we were out on 166 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: the street in pajamas trying to hell a cab all right, 167 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: and the whole way trying to get back home to 168 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: make in Georgia just in fits tied up in knots. 169 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I can only imagine what Riley's parents were going through 170 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: as they drove all the way to where he goes 171 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: missing and speaking off straight out to Dryden Quigley, investigative 172 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: reporter WSMV four, thank you for being with us. First 173 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: of all, describe the area where we believe Riley went missing. Guys, 174 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the woman who has found 175 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: what could be the single most important physical clue yet. 176 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dryden. 177 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 9: So, the last place that he was spotted on the 178 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 9: video camera is kind of up a street and it's 179 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 9: going along the Cumberland River where there's a pretty steep 180 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 9: drop off down there. Different areas have steeper than other parts, 181 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 9: but you can last see him crossing this street and 182 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 9: kind of heading up towards under these two bridges where 183 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 9: he's last seen. 184 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, is it true, Dryden Quigley 185 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: WSMV four that Riley was headed toward a homeless encampment. 186 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 9: So along that drop off between the Gay Street and 187 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 9: Cumberland River, there's this bank and it is where a 188 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 9: lot of people spend the night and sleep along there 189 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 9: and then under the two bridges as well. 190 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Yes, what people? What people? 191 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 7: What? 192 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Boy scout campers? Who it's staying out there under bridges? 193 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 10: People? 194 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, who don't have it anywhere else to go. You know, 195 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 9: there's a lot of trash down there too, and so 196 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 9: that comes into play later when looking for Riley's possessions too. 197 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: Is it true that drugs are used in that area 198 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: by the homeless people? 199 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 9: I can't say that for sure. I haven't seen it myself, 200 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 9: but I would believe it's possible. 201 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, So did he realize he's headed for an encampment 202 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: of homeless people where drugs apparently are used openly, as 203 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: we have seen now developing across the country. 204 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. 205 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: Guys, we've been playing the nine to one one call. 206 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: We're telling you the very latest of what you know. 207 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: But now I want you to hear from a volunteer 208 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: searchy searcher, Brandy Baynan, who lives in Nashville and possibly 209 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: has found the single most important physical clue yet. I'm 210 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: so grateful Brandy could speak to us. First of all, 211 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: listen to what she tells us regarding what she was 212 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: looking for when she found the clue. 213 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 11: We were looking for either his boots, shirt, he has 214 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 11: a bright blue wallet, any of those indications. But we 215 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 11: went down the and we went down to the embankment 216 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 11: and walked along the river until we got to underneath 217 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 11: the bridge, which is one of the last known vicinities 218 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 11: that he was in, and we started just digging around, 219 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 11: rummaging as much as we can, and about I want 220 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 11: to say, we were there into that part for maybe 221 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 11: twenty or thirty minutes, and there's about three ledges and 222 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 11: the third bottom ledge, which it's very hard to explain, 223 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 11: so I'm sorry if that is hard to imagine. And 224 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 11: I saw a card right there and flipped it over 225 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 11: to look at the backside because it was just like 226 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 11: the bank on the front, and saw his name, and 227 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 11: she goes, oh my god, we found his card and 228 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 11: I was like, no, we didn't. And right there we 229 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 11: were both instantly shocked. Our stomachs dropped, and then we 230 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 11: were both like, we have to keep going, Like this 231 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 11: means we have to keep going. 232 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what went through everyone's minds when they 233 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: realize they have found evidence. Liz, we actually have sound 234 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: of that discovery. 235 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: Everybody listen. 236 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 12: I don't think they do right here, or at least 237 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 12: for that guy's tendons, because you're talking about. 238 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: How cold what. 239 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: You want? 240 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: His credit card? 241 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: We found his credit card. 242 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 11: We gonna hang out, We gotta hang up the phone. 243 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, I'm just trying to take in 244 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: that moment where they find the piece of evidence. And 245 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: I want to make something very very clear, Chris Dingman, 246 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: This young boy, Riley Strain, has no history at all 247 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: ever of drug use, never has been thrown out of school, 248 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: never has been in treatment, not even a disorderly conduct 249 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: crossing the street, jaywalking, nothing. 250 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: Isn't that true? Chris Dingman? 251 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 7: One hundred percent? Yeah, Riley was this straightforward kid. You know, 252 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 7: we've had a lot of people be you know, question 253 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 7: us and go, I can't believe he's that good of 254 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 7: a kid. And all you have to do is ever 255 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 7: be just a little bit of his life, just a 256 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 7: blimp meeting anywhere, and you instantly knew that the pictures 257 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 7: that everybody's been sharing with him smiling, that truly was 258 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 7: that kid. He was an awesome boy, and we want 259 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 7: him back and he is an awesome boy. 260 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: You know, you just brought me to tears. 261 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Because it reminds me so much of my son John David. 262 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: And people are always saying, how can one kid be 263 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: so good natured and so joyful. 264 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what his. 265 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Nickname is here at the house, Awesome. His nickname is Awesome, 266 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: And just thinking about him completely innocent. I mean doctor 267 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall joining me, high profile psycho analyst joining us 268 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: out of la and you can find her at doctor 269 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com. 270 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany. 271 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: When I talk about this homeless encampment and how drugs 272 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: allegedly are being openly sold and used, this is not 273 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: about Riley going down to get drugs. 274 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: He has no history of that at all. Zero. 275 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: He was out with his friends on the fraternity formal weekend. 276 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: He get wanders off alone and this is where his 277 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: bank card is found. It's like a lamb being led 278 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: to the slaughter, doctor Bethany. 279 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 8: Exactly, Nancy. It sounds to me like Riley was extremely disoriented. 280 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 8: He thought he was going back to his hotel room. 281 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 8: He no longer had his friends with him, and he 282 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 8: was simply walking the wrong direction and he walked right 283 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 8: into the jaws of danger. 284 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: And now, I mean, what happens. 285 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 8: In these homeless encampments is that they are communities. Nancy, 286 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 8: and everybody in the homeless encampment tends to know each other. 287 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 8: They watch out after each other, They sometimes exchange food, 288 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: they look after each other's kids. They're like little tiny cities. 289 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: What and that? 290 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: Hey are you talking about woman? I mean, doctor Bethany. 291 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: This is not a commune where they're raising organic food 292 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: and singing kumbe bay ya every night there. God bless 293 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: them for their misfortune. But there are drugs being openly sold, 294 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: hard drugs, needle drugs. 295 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: Bethy. I don't know what world you're coming from. 296 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: But you send a kid straight out of high school 297 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: down there. But that's the last thing I'm going to 298 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: do is send John, David and Lucy under a bridge. 299 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely well. What I was going to say was 300 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 8: that the fact that he was not a part of 301 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 8: this group and he walked in made him extremely vulnerable. 302 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 8: It was a very precarious situation, walking into a group 303 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 8: of desperate people. And this is like a child, like 304 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 8: a little lamb, being led to the slaughter. He did 305 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 8: not know what he was getting into. 306 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Guys. 307 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: I want to circle back to what we know again, 308 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: a volunteer searcher who spends her own valuable private time 309 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: helping in the search for Riley has found a very 310 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: significant piece of physical evidence. It's Brandy Bane, and volunteer searcher, 311 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what she has to 312 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: say about why Brandy is searching for Riley. 313 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 11: I personally started going out Tuesday night. I went on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 314 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 11: I was do some TikTok lives with a friend while 315 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 11: I was searching, because I was kind of going on 316 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 11: my own, and Anna happened to see one of those 317 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 11: TikTok lives and she messaged me and asked us she 318 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 11: could come join the next day, and she did, and 319 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 11: that gave me. That gave me the ability to be 320 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 11: able to go all the way down to the embankment, 321 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 11: because I couldn't just do it with myself. In case 322 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 11: something were to happen, no one would know, or my 323 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 11: friend on TikTok wouldn't really be able to help me. 324 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 11: So Anna was brave enough to go down with that 325 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 11: with me, and so we went searching and we happened 326 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 11: to find something. 327 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: There is no way in Chi double l No way 328 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: in chi double l that Riley's trying to hear what 329 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: she just said. That she didn't know if she was 330 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: brave enough to go down down the slope into that area. 331 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: She was afraid. And that is in broad daylight. And 332 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: here walks in Riley into this area late late at night. 333 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: What happened to him? Where is he? I need to 334 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: get a clearer picture about exactly where the bank card 335 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: was found. 336 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: Let's listen to Brandy Baynen. 337 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 11: It was an embankment. So there was like a there's 338 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 11: a brick wall because there is a so we're underneath 339 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 11: the bridge. So then if you're up on the sidewalk, 340 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 11: there's a fence and there's a brick wall that comes 341 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 11: down if you're under the embankment. Then and then that 342 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 11: brick wall kind of turns into some mud and rocks, trees, 343 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 11: and then that goes into another ledge similar ledge, which 344 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 11: goes into another one which then goes into rocks, which 345 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 11: then turns into the river. So it was in that 346 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 11: third little ledge of mud dirt, and then you have 347 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 11: to and right now in Nashville, it is full of 348 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 11: garbage there. So we were actually rummaging through trash, absolute trash, 349 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 11: everything that you can imagine, including things that were dangerous 350 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 11: to us, like we saw some needles and things like that. 351 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bethany, the peace loving people down under that bridge 352 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: and their hypodermic needles. It'd be a cold day in 353 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: hell before I would let my children go down there. 354 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: And here's Riley's strain. I mean, he's basically straight out 355 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: of high school. I'm just trying to get an understanding 356 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: about what Brandy Bainen is saying, because from what she's describing, 357 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: there is no way that that bank card of Riley's 358 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: trains could have fallen in that location. Let me understand, no, 359 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: listen what Brandy Baynen says about the card's location. 360 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 11: I personally do not think that that card could have 361 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 11: landed there from just like stumbling and losing your card 362 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 11: out of your hand, because it would have had to 363 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 11: go down a few ludges. Now, it has been some 364 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 11: time that's passed since the eighth and then we did 365 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 11: have rain on the exact week after that Friday, so 366 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 11: I don't know what that would do at all, if 367 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 11: that would affect it at all. But when we found 368 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 11: the card, it wasn't actually covered up that much. There 369 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 11: was some leaves and she saw the blue in it. 370 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Guys, we're trying to determine the significance of the location 371 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: of Riley Strain's bank card. 372 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: And I have a reason for doing this. 373 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: I remember in one murder case and the guy was 374 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: a serial killer, but I could get him. 375 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: On one case, it was. 376 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: Jane Doe, and I found one of her earrings in 377 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: a particular location, and the fact that it was there 378 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: proved volumes to me. I learned that that was a 379 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: tertiary crime scene, which led me then to the secondary 380 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: and the primary crime scene because of that one earring. Now, 381 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: let's think what this bank card means. 382 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 12: I don't think they do right here, or at least 383 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 12: for that guy's tentons, because you're talking about how. 384 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: Cold what. 385 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 12: You want? 386 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: His credit card? 387 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 3: We find his credit card. 388 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 11: We gotta hang out, we gotta hang. 389 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: Up the phone. 390 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Riley Strain was not going on a 391 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: leisurely stroll. 392 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: Amongst these rocks down by the river. 393 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: That did not happen and back to Dryden quickly joining 394 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: US investigative reporter WSMV Fort Nashville. I understand that one 395 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: of the homeless gentlemen that was there claims that he 396 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: heard a quote commotion around the time we believe Riley 397 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: Strain may have been there. What can you tell me 398 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: about that, Dryden? 399 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 9: So, I didn't speak with that homeless person myself, but 400 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 9: it has been reported that, yes, he was he during 401 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 9: around that time. He heard a commotion after he saw 402 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 9: Riley walk through there. That's all he said about it, 403 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 9: or was reported about it. But I didn't speak with 404 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 9: him myself. 405 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Also emerging in the search for Riley's Strain is surveillance video. 406 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: But first I want to ask Chris Dingman, Chris a 407 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: very dear family friend of the Strain and speaking for them, Chris, 408 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: what is the reaction from the parents regarding the discovery 409 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: that Brayden made of the bank card. 410 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 7: I'm extremely happy you're asking me that. I actually had 411 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 7: friends of the family that was very close to the 412 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 7: young ladies when they found it. I got a phone 413 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 7: call Sunday afternoon. They were super excited. They go, we 414 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 7: found his card, and I said, can you go to them? 415 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 7: They were within about one hundred yards of each other, 416 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 7: and she said yeah, And I said, do me a favor. 417 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 7: I said, I know the bank that Riley uses. Unfortunately, 418 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 7: and you've dealt with this a lot. There are a 419 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 7: lot of people that will do fake cards, fake ID 420 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 7: and throw them in crime scenes just to be cruel. 421 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 7: And I wanted to make sure before this went at least, 422 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 7: you know, went wild, that I notified the family. The 423 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 7: young ladies instantly took a picture of the card sent 424 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 7: to me. I knew at that moment that's Riley's card. 425 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 7: I contacted the family, said, hey, this is the pinpoint. 426 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 7: They've dropped me a pin one of the young ladies, 427 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 7: I asked her, I said, please. 428 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: Down nine one one. 429 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 7: I'm going to get a hold of the family. The 430 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: other person that contacted me, she was actually in a 431 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 7: close proximity of some police that were actually there with 432 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 7: canines and had been searching the area a little bit 433 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 7: farther away. I told her, I said, please go get 434 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 7: the police. Take them directly to those young ladies. We 435 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 7: need to secure that area. And the young girls, as 436 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 7: you've kind of heard in their voices, they were just 437 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 7: as static, they were nervous, they were scared. And I 438 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 7: told her, I said, I need you to do something 439 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 7: for me, please. I said, you're about to be bombarded 440 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 7: with one hundred plus people. You guys, we live on TikTok. 441 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 7: Everybody kind of has a ballpark. I do where you are. 442 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 7: I need that crime scene secured. Please, if people come 443 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 7: up there, tell them to stand back till the police 444 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 7: get here so we can do a formal investigation in 445 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 7: that exact area. One thing that struck out to me. 446 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: I don't know if you have physically seen the picture 447 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 7: of the card, and I'm glad the young lady brought 448 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 7: that up and we discussed this. That card is not dirty. 449 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 7: It's not filthy for a car that had been laying 450 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 7: on the ground for nine days, not in the water 451 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 7: or even remotely close to the water. In essence to 452 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 7: the storms that they had. There's constant moisture down there, 453 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 7: there's constant windflow down there, and there was no visible 454 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 7: signs of you know, the frisbee. The kids leave the 455 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 7: frisbee out in the yard. Two days later, you go out, 456 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 7: it's covered in dew and and little dirt particles. That's 457 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 7: seem to me to be very very strange. So I 458 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 7: would love to see your take on that. 459 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: You know, I find that very interesting, the point that 460 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: you're bringing out that the card was not weathered at all. 461 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: Joining me is Steve Fisher, missing person's private investigator, search 462 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: and rescue specialist, owner of Search Investigations. Find that at 463 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: Searchinvestigations dot Org. Steve Fisher, thank you for being with us. 464 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: What does that tell you? I find it very primitive. 465 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 10: I think one thing that's important to realize is that 466 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 10: the river levels on the at ten pm night he 467 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 10: went missing. 468 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: We're seven feet. 469 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 10: Higher than when the women found the card, So the 470 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 10: water level was significantly higher, which is why you see 471 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 10: the different color, the darker rocks. 472 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: So it's a controlled river. 473 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 10: They had let a lot of you know, outflow out 474 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 10: of it, so that could have been submerged in simply 475 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 10: the water level coming down, and that would account for 476 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 10: why the card is so clean. 477 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 2: Hold on, Steve Fisher. 478 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: What about the fact, as we just heard from Braden, 479 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: that it was wedged and it didn't get there innocently. 480 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 10: From what I understood, I did watch the video of 481 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 10: when they uncovered it. I think it was under some 482 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 10: a little bit of debris, and you know, we'll never 483 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 10: know for certain, but in search and rescue, you know, 484 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 10: we're looking for a last known position and it's the 485 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 10: same spot that the cell phone last ping dat on 486 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 10: life three sixty. You know, originally told it was fifty 487 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 10: to one hundred feet on the south side of that bridge, 488 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 10: which is right where this card ended up. Also, so 489 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 10: I think, you know, there's a likelihood that it just 490 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 10: could be the waterflow is the reason that it was 491 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 10: found on the embankment. 492 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: Ben Powers is joining us high profile lawyer out of Nashville, 493 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: and you can find him at legalpowers dot com. Ben Powers, 494 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. What can 495 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 1: you tell us about your knowledge of the case and 496 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: your insight into what's happening right now? 497 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: Well, so, right now, it sounds like the investigation has 498 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: locked in a really narrow timeline of how that evening went, 499 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: you know, from being removed from the bar, to the 500 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: various surveillance footage, to the ping from the cell phone, 501 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 4: all the way to the debit card down at the 502 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: river bank. The debit card at the river bank is 503 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: curious because it's not with his wallet, there's no other 504 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: possessions with him, and it was found amongst what we 505 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: might call trash. But since it is a homeless encampment, 506 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: that could be personal possessions of someone that lives down there. 507 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 4: Maybe they were trying to discard the debit card, or 508 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: maybe there's no foul play at all. It's a little 509 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: too early to try to make a determination one where 510 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: the other as to that type of conclusion. But the 511 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: investigation has been very thorough. They've used canines, they've used sonar, 512 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: they've used helicopters, they've used drones, volunteers as the volunteers 513 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 4: that found the debit card, So it is a very thorough, 514 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: extensive investigation. It's just that this narrow time frame is 515 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: so curious because they have him on video going down 516 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: Gay Street, but they don't have him on video at 517 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: the courthouse, which is just at the other end of 518 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: the Gay Street where the video last saw him. And 519 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: they have an officer that was on scene investigating a 520 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: claim of vehicle burglary. He didn't hear or see anything 521 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: out of the ordinary. 522 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: And they do have. 523 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: One of the benefits of that homeless encampment is, as 524 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 4: are been stated, there's at least one witness that hurt 525 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: some commotion, but that's a relatively large community down there, 526 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: so I suspect that there's other witnesses that just haven't 527 00:29:36,360 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: come forward yet with what may have happened that evening. 528 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: Time. 529 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: Stories with Nancy Grace. 530 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Luckily in this case, we also have gramy surveillance video 531 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: that is emerging. 532 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: How you doing, sir, I'm good. 533 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: How are you good? Guys? 534 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: This is the most recent video surveillance that we have 535 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: obtained to Dryden Quigley WSMV four. 536 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 9: So we're looking right now at Metro Police's bodyguard camera, 537 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 9: body warn camera. He's out there responding to I believe 538 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 9: it was a burglary call, and he runs into Riley. 539 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 9: He greet said, and he says hi. Now. Riley keeps 540 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 9: walking down that street and just a few feet away 541 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 9: you can actually see the bridge in the video. That's 542 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 9: where Riley's phone last pinged. Was there for another forty 543 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 9: five minutes, and he says he didn't hear anything out 544 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 9: of the ordinary. That bridge over there is the last 545 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 9: spot not Riley's phone went off. But it took until 546 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 9: today or yesterday to have this video come out. 547 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: Riley, he's coherent, everything's fine. He's speaking to the officer. 548 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: The officer looks like he's doing a safety check in 549 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: a parking lot, just poking around late at night. He's 550 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: walking normally. He's not drunk, he's not on drugs. He's 551 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: wearing the clothes that was described that were described by 552 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: his friends. 553 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: Is he walking toward or away from the bridge? Dryden? Quickly? 554 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 9: He is walking towards it. He kind of turns around, 555 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 9: so it's hard to see bs. Riley's on his way 556 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 9: towards that first bridge. 557 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: Okay, what would be on the other side of the 558 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: bridge Dryden? 559 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 9: So there are two bridges actually, but between them and 560 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 9: down the side there are usually people either sleeping under 561 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 9: the bridge or down the side again of the embankment, 562 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 9: very close to where his credit card was found. 563 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the homeless encampment was down 564 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: the side of that bridge toward which he is headed. 565 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 566 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: Have there ever been ambushes there of people crossing the 567 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: bridge or approaching the bridge at night that we know of? 568 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: No, not that I know. 569 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: To Chris Dingman, what if anything, do we know where 570 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: was he headed? 571 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 7: And I can help you out with a lot of 572 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 7: your questions. Unfortunately, unfortunately the way the videos released us 573 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 7: that day is kind of the way that you have 574 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 7: laid him out just then. What we do know is 575 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 7: the one video where Riley is running through the parking 576 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 7: lot and falls down. That is the first video of 577 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 7: those three, there was an altercation in that intersection. There 578 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 7: was an altercation with two gentlemen in that intersection. We 579 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 7: think Riley was walking up to it, saw the altercation, 580 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 7: and decided to go around the back of the food truck. 581 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 7: And that's why he was at a little bit of 582 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 7: you know, a faster gallop per se. The family we 583 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 7: have personally been to that food truck and look at 584 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 7: their footage. 585 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: That's how we know. 586 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 7: You know, initially people were thinking Riley was attacked in 587 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 7: that intersection. He was not. We think the reason Riley 588 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 7: started to run a little bit. We think the reason 589 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 7: Riley started to run a little bit is one of 590 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 7: the people in the altercation started running. We think one 591 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 7: of the people that was in altercation took off running 592 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 7: behind the food truck towards the fire truck. And that's 593 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 7: why Riley just microseconds, wow, I need to move. 594 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 4: That's why he. 595 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 7: Started running behind the truck. The second video is where 596 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 7: he's walking along the wall. It's kind of a dark area. 597 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 7: You'll notice he keeps reaching up towards the back of 598 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 7: his body. The first video, unfortunately, when Riley goes down, 599 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 7: there's a concrete pole for that parking lot and Riley 600 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 7: went into it aggressively. He went shoulders and then hit 601 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 7: his head into that as he was going down. You'll 602 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 7: in that video he's there for you know, one, two, three, 603 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 7: four seconds before he gets himself and his bearings back up. 604 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 7: The video too that, you know, that's why we thank it. 605 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 7: At first we thought maybe he was trying to take 606 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 7: his phone to his ear, but after putting the pieces 607 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 7: together in order, Riley you know, was probably rubbing his 608 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 7: neck and shoulders from hitting the concrete barricade. The next video, 609 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 7: where he is crossing the street where the construction barricade is, 610 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 7: he walks right along the construction barricade. Whatever happened with 611 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 7: you know, him hitting his shoulders and neck as he's 612 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 7: coming through here, I think he kind of comes out 613 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 7: of the ether as we say, you know when you 614 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 7: when you have an abrupt movement against your body, because 615 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 7: his body motions go back towards more normal. The fourth 616 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 7: video and the last video that we have of anything 617 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 7: seeing Riley, will be the police video. So I just 618 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 7: wanted to help you guys with that and put it 619 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 7: in progression so people would understand the timeline, the wild 620 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 7: part and the young lady from Nashville with the media. 621 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 7: I think, I think this is all within about a 622 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 7: five minute window and very close proximity of each other 623 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 7: of these videos as they go by. 624 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: From what I know right now Steve Fisher joining us 625 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: from Searchinvestigations dot Org, there has been no additional cell 626 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: phone activity or bank card credit card activity since Riley 627 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: went missing. 628 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: What does that tell. 629 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 10: You, Well, I mean tell me that everything stopped right there. 630 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 10: And you know, as we're looking at the surveillance is 631 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 10: what literally every case comes down to. And one thing 632 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 10: I think is important in this and you know, like Chris, 633 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 10: the know is you know, right across the river is 634 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 10: thoroughly covered. You got the Tennessee Titans Stadium, and then 635 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 10: you've got a Marathon oil facility. And I've been dealing 636 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 10: with the Titans. They did not capture anything. However, the 637 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 10: Marathon facility, you know, has I talked to the head 638 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 10: of security there on Sunday. They have not been contacted 639 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 10: by law enforcement. Their barges are literally right across from 640 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 10: where that debit card was found, and they have a 641 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 10: lot of surveillance because they got to protect that facility 642 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 10: against people coming in from the water. So I was 643 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 10: in touch with with her. They were going to pull 644 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 10: all the footage on Monday morning. I let the detective know. 645 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 10: He didn't get back to me, but then communications stop, 646 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 10: so I think there was a halt put to that. 647 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 10: But I would just, you know, want Chris to know that. 648 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 10: I think there is significant surveillance available right across the river. 649 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: So we need that barge video pronto. Yes, yes, I 650 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: was supposed to have it. I was supposed to get 651 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: that Monday. 652 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us a psychoanalyst out of LA 653 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall dot com Doctor Bethany. So often citizen 654 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: investigations tips are discounted, but if it weren't for citizen sleuths, 655 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: we would never have found Gabby Potito. 656 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: That would never have happened. 657 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: She was out in the middle of no we're literally 658 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: dispersed camping. In this case, A private citizen finds the 659 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: bank card, and I believe there are more people that 660 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: can tell us where is Riley. 661 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: I believe that, So why is that not happening? 662 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 8: You know, Nancy, I was just thinking about Gabby Patito. 663 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 8: It was people who were influencers, who were crowdsourcing information. 664 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 8: In some ways, Nancy, they were more motivated to solve 665 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 8: the crime than the police. Where the police see so 666 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 8: much they can become jaded, overwhelmed. Maybe they're understaffed. 667 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't speak to that. 668 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 8: But in terms of crowdsourcing information, people care about Riley Strain. 669 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 8: They see this blonde, good looking young man, educated from 670 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 8: a family who loves him, and they want to know 671 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 8: what happened. So I'm wondering, are the police plumbing this 672 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 8: very rich source. Are they're asking other people what happened? 673 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 8: Because this is where a lot of clues could be found. 674 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: Again, the tip line is six one five eight six 675 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: two eighty six hundred. If you know or think you 676 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: know anything about the disappearance of this young man literally 677 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: scrubbed in sunshine, please call six one five eighty six 678 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: two eighty six hundred. All of our efforts, thoughts and 679 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: prayers with Raleigh Strain and his family. 680 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: Now goodbye, friend.