Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, and welcome to the second episode of the
Speaker 1: season on the Real DNA podcast. And I'm super super
Speaker 1: happy to say that my very dear friend, one of
Speaker 1: my best friends and incredibly talented host reporter, you call
Speaker 1: it one of the most important media figures in our
Speaker 1: tennis world.
Speaker 2: Someone it's with me today, daughter pressure.
Speaker 3: I think there should be people disagreeing and people could
Speaker 3: seem be blushing.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: It is lovely. We finally made this happen. We've talked
Speaker 3: about this for a long time. Normally we're separated by
Speaker 3: a country, but we're finally in the same place at
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 2: That's happening.
Speaker 1: It's happening, and we do have to warn our listeners
Speaker 1: today this is going to be totally freestyle, off script
Speaker 1: because we were so busy, both of us, so in
Speaker 1: our defense, we really have time.
Speaker 2: With the hours and everything slightly.
Speaker 3: I've been up since five o'clock this morning because we
Speaker 3: did a show back in the UK, so it's now
Speaker 3: it's now nearly five o'clock in the afternoon, so slightly delirious.
Speaker 1: Right, So you were today ahead of me because I've
Speaker 1: been waking up since am. So you were Why have
Speaker 1: you been wakingup at six as because we've got a
Speaker 1: seven am because you do a seven A yeah morning,
Speaker 1: normally I'm not that early, but this morning it was
Speaker 1: up at five am because we had to do a
Speaker 1: show in the UK so for the evening morning. So
Speaker 1: by this point everything's just a little bit fuzzy, but
Speaker 1: fuzzy at this point, what about the beginning of the
Speaker 1: tournament and we get there, because we want to talk
Speaker 1: about the first week, but I hardly can remember or
Speaker 1: anything because.
Speaker 2: There was a little fog.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I did not see
Speaker 1: clearly things in the first few days. Just crossing the
Speaker 1: bridge from my from my whole hotel, walking to the side,
Speaker 1: I struggled to walk straight, but you do.
Speaker 2: So much better with the jedlights. No.
Speaker 3: I nearly ran into the river Yarra because as I've
Speaker 3: got holder, I decide to take content. I wear content
Speaker 3: lenses and after a long flight and you're tied, your
Speaker 3: eyes are a bit so when I run in the morning,
Speaker 3: I don't use them because I don't want to see anybody.
Speaker 3: I know where I'm going, but I had jet lag
Speaker 3: and I nearly ran into the river.
Speaker 1: What's advantage for you you are the least on the
Speaker 1: right side of the river and streets here because you
Speaker 1: guys drive the same in London.
Speaker 2: But I think either side of the street falling into
Speaker 2: the river is for.
Speaker 1: The rest of Europe like it's it's you know, we
Speaker 1: struggle to cross at the right time and then not
Speaker 1: to get run over.
Speaker 3: Just look for the little green person and you're going
Speaker 3: to be fined or I have a country.
Speaker 2: And honestly, the first few days I did struggle.
Speaker 3: I think it's tough for everybody because we're all sort
Speaker 3: of coming from different parts of the world and it's
Speaker 3: completely upside down. And I think personally is like an
Speaker 3: older jet leg probably gets a little bit harder. And
Speaker 3: I don't sleep on planes, so when I got here,
Speaker 3: I was sort of yeah.
Speaker 1: But you go straight to your routunities, routines, you do
Speaker 1: your morning grunts every day, you you do your avocado breakfast.
Speaker 1: You are like so clean and healthy, and I feel
Speaker 1: so guilty as.
Speaker 2: You do, know, such a good job.
Speaker 3: I think that the good weather makes you feel healthy,
Speaker 3: doesn't it. If you're somewhere with it's snowy and cold,
Speaker 3: you want potatoes and.
Speaker 2: Pasta and just like, oh, but when you're here, you
Speaker 2: think it's sunny.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to have something green and I'm going
Speaker 3: to go for a run and I'm going to be healthy.
Speaker 2: So I try.
Speaker 3: And when I'm at home, I have the children to
Speaker 3: look after, so I always say to myself, right, you've
Speaker 3: just got yourself to look after, so you have no
Speaker 3: excuse not to go for the run. But I did
Speaker 3: start wearing my contact lenses because nearly falling in the river.
Speaker 2: Well you could have done for a nice swimming Jim career.
Speaker 3: Wasn't the best start to the two weeks, I think.
Speaker 3: So that's one thing I have changed.
Speaker 2: You know, what are we going to do this week?
Speaker 1: Because I was going to talk to you about nutritions
Speaker 1: and because the kind of the focus of the Really
Speaker 1: and podcast this season is on healthy lifestyle, longevity and stuff.
Speaker 1: So what do we do both of us to carry
Speaker 1: through the tough media weeks when the days are long
Speaker 1: and it gets overwhelming tiring.
Speaker 2: You don't drink coffee.
Speaker 1: That's a huge advantage because I you have to say
Speaker 1: during Grand Slams, I end up at times.
Speaker 2: On forest presses today, So.
Speaker 3: That that's a good thing because it keeps you not healthwise,
Speaker 3: but it keeps you going through the tournaments.
Speaker 2: It does, but I don't know how you did it
Speaker 2: without the coss.
Speaker 3: I've never drunk coffee, so I don't know, so it's
Speaker 3: not I don't want people thinking I'm missing, especially in Melbourney,
Speaker 3: and I've never drunk it.
Speaker 2: I've never tried it. We have to get you on
Speaker 2: this magic Melbourne.
Speaker 3: No, I know that's really strong. Can you imagine someone
Speaker 3: who's never tried coffee? If you give me one of those,
Speaker 3: I'll fly.
Speaker 2: You do know what it is? No?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a special coffee they only do in Melbourne, right,
Speaker 1: not the rest of Australia. And it's a perfect combination
Speaker 1: of what I like, which is a long espresso with
Speaker 1: a little bit of ma kiato.
Speaker 2: I think I'm talking to a different language.
Speaker 1: Well, there is a little bit of Italian, so you
Speaker 1: do have an excuse there.
Speaker 2: So it's basically a little bit of foam milk cofee.
Speaker 2: Your choice. I think you could do that.
Speaker 1: But it is strong though, so if you're dorink one
Speaker 1: in the morning, it carries you till the afternoon.
Speaker 2: Interviews. Yeah, I would be I would be buzzing. I
Speaker 2: don't think it would be you do tea right, No,
Speaker 2: don't do tea at all.
Speaker 3: But as I've never done them, I don't miss them,
Speaker 3: so therefore I don't wake up. So I think maybe
Speaker 3: my run is that so when I come to a tournament.
Speaker 3: For me, it's very important to have routine when I'm
Speaker 3: at a tournament.
Speaker 2: So do you keep a routine when everything changes in
Speaker 2: our job?
Speaker 3: But I think when you're at a tournament, or Agan said,
Speaker 3: you can have that routine. I will get up at
Speaker 3: seven o'clock every morning, even if I've got to bed
Speaker 3: at two or three, I will call home and then
Speaker 3: I'll go for a run, and that is that sort
Speaker 3: of sets me up for the day. However tired I
Speaker 3: am apart from this morning because I got up at
Speaker 3: five o'clock. That I just try and have a routine,
Speaker 3: and I think that helps me, gives weirdly gives me energy.
Speaker 2: It does help us.
Speaker 1: I think we all agree, all the broadcasters, that the
Speaker 1: more we exercise and the more active we stay even
Speaker 1: though we are super tired, that helps us to get
Speaker 1: through the tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you need that because it's very
Speaker 3: in a very good way. A grand slammer or tournament
Speaker 3: is groundhog day. Eat, you get up and repeat, and
Speaker 3: I eat similar things. I did similar things. I'm like
Speaker 3: by day, I don't know what day we're on now,
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen seventeen. When we arrived, I'm so fed up
Speaker 3: of what I'm eating, I'd say, I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to Yeah, I don't want to see an I
Speaker 1: don't want to see sushi and avocadom for.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I just I can't because every day I'm like, I'll
Speaker 3: have the same thing, and that's worked, and you just
Speaker 3: get into that.
Speaker 2: It's sort of survival mode.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if we're talking about health and
Speaker 3: nutrition and will as, I don't know whether that's the
Speaker 3: healthiest way to do it.
Speaker 1: I definitely think, like you said, the routines help because
Speaker 1: there are so many changes during the day with our job.
Speaker 2: Well can you do this? Can you do that? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: So I think, well, you're playing, and you're a player.
Speaker 2: The player was so much easier.
Speaker 3: But now you're in the legends, in the mix and
Speaker 3: the doubles, and then you're presenting here, you're doing there,
Speaker 3: and you're doing that. I mean, you don't stop. I
Speaker 3: have sort of downtime in the morning because we're working
Speaker 3: on UK hours, so normally a slower morning. But then
Speaker 3: you're right, suddenly things go crazy and you find yourself
Speaker 3: twelve hours later sort of spat out the other end.
Speaker 2: And you're like, I don't know where I am. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: So I've also started taking vitamins as I get older.
Speaker 3: I never used to take them, but now I find
Speaker 3: they're very useful. And I know different ones for different people,
Speaker 3: but I've become quite religious and I will take them.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a placebo effect, maybe I think it's making
Speaker 3: me feel better, but hey, whatever, whatever works.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And how about the tiredness we feel after the grass
Speaker 1: like again talking.
Speaker 2: About fog, like first two three days when we come
Speaker 2: back home. I've never ever as a player been so
Speaker 2: tired coming home.
Speaker 3: And I mentioned with you it's all the so hang on.
Speaker 3: You're more tired as a player or media when you media,
Speaker 3: by far.
Speaker 1: Because as a player, you actually have the day of
Speaker 1: you can walk down the Fifth Avenue in New York,
Speaker 1: or go to Central Park or have a nice walk
Speaker 1: here by the river.
Speaker 2: When do we get to do that?
Speaker 1: And it's that constant for because because everything's live, so
Speaker 1: you shouldn't really be doing too many mistakes, even though
Speaker 1: we not not you, but especially you know the language stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, when you around a twelve hour like Slovak
Speaker 1: War start to kick in the time you.
Speaker 3: Did Wimbledon in German last year, I don't even know
Speaker 3: how that happened.
Speaker 2: I was like, you said, yeah, I'm working for German.
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, I mean the concentration, the focus,
Speaker 3: the tiders and the notemaking. You come into a Grand
Speaker 3: Slam there are players everywhere, and the notemaking by by
Speaker 3: this day, I'm like, oh, I'm making my note. I
Speaker 3: know there's only two players. I'm making notes on day,
Speaker 3: but you're getting to that point that I can't do
Speaker 3: it anymore. Yeah, I don't make any more notes any more.
Speaker 2: Facts.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of it's stored in there because
Speaker 3: you've seen a lot of them. But oh, you're you're broken.
Speaker 3: I'm largely broken when I leave a Grand Slam. I
Speaker 3: think that just sounds a bit dramatic.
Speaker 1: No, but I do have to say that I've been
Speaker 1: so lucky and blessed to be around you, Annabelle, and
Speaker 1: just because as we know, I've done so much stuff
Speaker 1: in London to be around you guys, as far as
Speaker 1: work ethic and how you prepare, how do they day?
Speaker 2: How would you prepare for a day Australian notewise.
Speaker 1: I have to say it has changed a lot of
Speaker 1: thanks to you, because you know, when you come off
Speaker 1: from the tour as a player, you kind of feel, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen it all, I know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, and then I see you, you know, sitting
Speaker 1: down writing the notes and as you can see now,
Speaker 1: most of the time, if I have the chance, I
Speaker 1: like to come prepared so then we can be as
Speaker 1: spontaneous as possible. It's definitely the preparation that gives you
Speaker 1: the confidence which I learned thanks to you. I realized that,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you guys have been around in the
Speaker 1: business so many more years than me. Why would I
Speaker 1: think I would just get away with a You know,
Speaker 1: I know these players, I've played against most of them,
Speaker 1: and they know me. So I was very lucky to
Speaker 1: kind of have the British school of media, if we
Speaker 1: can call it that way.
Speaker 3: And you worked really hard. You worked really hard with
Speaker 3: on your voice as well. You said you were very
Speaker 3: just when you were working in the UK that the
Speaker 3: sound was. I mean, that's all. But that's a massive thing,
Speaker 3: isn't it. Because you wanted to be the best you
Speaker 3: could be. And some people again would have said, but
Speaker 3: I'm a form player and I'm from here, so you're
Speaker 3: just going to take it and this is me. But
Speaker 3: you actually really wanted to hone your craft, which not
Speaker 3: everyone does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: I just never forget my first British class when we
Speaker 1: were discussing potato potato morning, I felt like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like that is so not going to be me.
Speaker 2: So actually it's like potato potato. You sounded I don't
Speaker 2: know who you sounded, but Irish, but it was good.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is so not
Speaker 4: the mean potato potato like a good morning mother. I
Speaker 4: just felt like I constantly kept laughing because I just
Speaker 4: couldn't believe that.
Speaker 2: Good morning mother and potato, potato and tomato.
Speaker 3: When you learn a new language, you learn to buy
Speaker 3: a return ticket, to make a reservation to go to
Speaker 3: the museum and can you show me away showing the
Speaker 3: way to the souper end.
Speaker 5: That the book is under table? Yeah, oh wow, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm next to the table.
Speaker 2: Is that the British lesson again? Yeah, British, German, Italian, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I never I've never heard about the book, but it's
Speaker 3: but again, in all seriousness, it shows your dedication for
Speaker 3: wanting to get it right. Because a lot of people,
Speaker 3: not just sport, but if they come from acting, sport, whatever,
Speaker 3: they just say, well, this is me, and you've hired
Speaker 3: me because I'm me, and I will just be me.
Speaker 3: But you wanted to kind of be the best you
Speaker 3: could be. And I really admire that because you didn't
Speaker 3: have you could just sit down with no notes and
Speaker 3: say I played her five times and this is what
Speaker 3: she can do, and there's her strengths and there's her weaknesses,
Speaker 3: and that's it, and it would have been fine. Everyone
Speaker 3: would have thought that's great because you as a form
Speaker 3: well number five are giving your view, but you were
Speaker 3: very conscious of wanting to perfect your trade in this profession.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I appreciated the opportunities, but I
Speaker 1: felt like coming from from the tour, maybe the name
Speaker 1: opens you the door, but then you just have to
Speaker 1: do the work, just like with everything else.
Speaker 3: I felt, yeah, because there'll always be other people coming through,
Speaker 3: other people retiring and maybe they with the full well
Speaker 3: nun before the three. So I absolutely understand that some
Speaker 3: people won't do that because they don't feel they need to.
Speaker 3: But I know I really admire that. As I said,
Speaker 3: when you said look again the voice, the accent, I
Speaker 3: just thought you didn't need to, but you were put
Speaker 3: in that in which that was really good.
Speaker 2: Well again, it's you know, thanks to you. I never
Speaker 2: said you potato potassa.
Speaker 1: Well it's not that, but I did manage to trop
Speaker 1: you off the rhythm a couple of times when we
Speaker 1: did the Rolangaa's Life, when let's just say we were
Speaker 1: supposed to make predictions maybe twenty five minutes into the
Speaker 1: half and basically.
Speaker 2: The whole final of Rossy. The whole point was to
Speaker 2: make that build up and I.
Speaker 3: Planned it for hours, this wonderful show that would weave
Speaker 3: its way to a path and the final couple of
Speaker 3: minutes the players are about to come out, say Danny,
Speaker 3: what's your prediction for the final? And two minutes in
Speaker 3: he said, well, never, your c is going to win.
Speaker 2: Its like great, otherwise it would be tweeted for you.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, okay, you're such a professional, you'll look
Speaker 3: so I said, great.
Speaker 2: You gave me the look.
Speaker 3: I was like, let's analyze his opponent, who's going to lose,
Speaker 3: but let's talk about how he can win.
Speaker 2: He's not going to win because you said he's going
Speaker 2: to lose.
Speaker 3: I guess another part of Live TV, isn't it It's
Speaker 3: it's adapting because anything can happen at any time. I
Speaker 3: mean some of the things we've talked about in there
Speaker 3: this week, we were talking about reindeer balls and warts
Speaker 3: and you just go down roads and you have to.
Speaker 1: Well, we talked about half an hour trying to convince
Speaker 1: someone that avocado is actually a good thing. But it
Speaker 1: is I mean, I mean not be even a yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is right, And I think that was they.
Speaker 2: Need they need to know. So let's just clarify avocado
Speaker 2: and it's good for you. If we're talking health and
Speaker 2: fitness and well being. You know what.
Speaker 1: I just came up with the with our little logo,
Speaker 1: it should be avocado, and it was longevity. It's good, lifestyle,
Speaker 1: it's health, it's squishy. But it's like, yeah, hey, we
Speaker 1: said we were like this kind of a situation here,
Speaker 1: so just to be a little bit more creative.
Speaker 2: I think we had no avocado.
Speaker 3: People think expect us talk about food a lot, and well.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk a little bit about especially
Speaker 1: when we'll be in Indian Wells or Roland Garros.
Speaker 2: We don't kind of.
Speaker 1: I think he used the experience of you know, we
Speaker 1: traveled so much of the world, and as the tennis players,
Speaker 1: we are quite picky where we eat.
Speaker 2: What did you eat? What was your pretty much meal?
Speaker 2: It depends where it changed over the years. It did
Speaker 2: change here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here was actually the first time actually had a
Speaker 1: smashed avocado on a toss. I was like, I felt
Speaker 1: like I was killing it, like you January, I'm having
Speaker 1: a toss with avocado, like I've.
Speaker 2: Made it big time. Doesn't matter whether I win here
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 1: That was that was big in the in the old
Speaker 1: players lounge.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how much it has changed.
Speaker 1: I have to say this is probably the tournament with
Speaker 1: one of the best food.
Speaker 2: The variety you go.
Speaker 1: I mean what we've got now three floors pretty much
Speaker 1: of different choices, starting on the ground level of it,
Speaker 1: incredible coffee, snacks, fruits, kind of a breakfast situation. Then
Speaker 1: the main player restaurant. I mean anything you can imagine,
Speaker 1: like if you don't find something you need.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they cater and they need to kate well for
Speaker 3: you guys, your athletes, you need to be And I
Speaker 3: have to say, from media point of view, this is
Speaker 3: the best thing. If I think across the slams, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not gonna name and shame, but I
Speaker 3: would say here it's it's really good because you can
Speaker 3: have some and they give you some money on your accreditations.
Speaker 3: It's a limited amount, which really helps if you're doing
Speaker 3: really long hours. But you can get healthy snacks. There's
Speaker 3: healthy drinks, there's healthy food, there's salads. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: have chips and pizza if you want you want to,
Speaker 3: but it's easy to stay healthy.
Speaker 2: And in the in the media rooms.
Speaker 3: So I'm sometimes in the radio room in the evening
Speaker 3: head of the night session, they bring around a basket
Speaker 3: of ice creams. That's cool, Well, it is cool, but
Speaker 3: on day fifteen, when you've said yes every day, it's
Speaker 3: not cool. So I have to actually leave before they
Speaker 3: come around because I can't say no. Someone's offering you
Speaker 3: an ice cream. I mean I know, I actually know
Speaker 3: your will pow is good. I can't say no. So
Speaker 3: I have to make sure because it's an ice cream
Speaker 3: and I want to eat it.
Speaker 1: So I can't believe I'm laughing because I'm actually people
Speaker 1: that really know me well, I don't say no to
Speaker 1: ice cream, but in summer like holidays.
Speaker 2: To me, ice cream is holidays. But it's an echo.
Speaker 1: Like when I'm working, I don't see ice cream anywhere
Speaker 1: near meal, but when it's when passed you after dinner,
Speaker 1: you are or you need to.
Speaker 3: Not not the tournaments, but someone walks past you and
Speaker 3: you're sat at your desk and they see Johns and
Speaker 3: ice cream just say yes. I mean, it's automatic reaction.
Speaker 3: So I've had to make sure that I'm normally in
Speaker 3: the contours. But I have to make sure if I
Speaker 3: see her coming, I run to the toilet because I
Speaker 3: have zero willpower.
Speaker 2: We're going to teach you to say no. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can't say no. That's the mission of this scream coming around.
Speaker 2: So no.
Speaker 3: They look after you really well. And there's there's a
Speaker 3: cocktail hour for the media for journalists. I don't go
Speaker 3: to it because again I'm based somewhere else, but at
Speaker 3: five o'clock they can go and have a soft drink
Speaker 3: and alcoholic drink.
Speaker 1: There's some snacks they get to just alcohol. Really I
Speaker 1: say anything then when normally.
Speaker 3: Normally it's the written journalist because they might write anything,
Speaker 3: but it depends how much they I guess a glass
Speaker 3: with a drink, but it's and the sun, a little
Speaker 3: bit of heat, lots of alcohol. But I think it's
Speaker 3: nice because it gets them away from their desks.
Speaker 1: If there should like WT finals the last minute, that's
Speaker 1: when I drink because I don't drink at all, and
Speaker 1: we all commentain that much like that to get.
Speaker 2: Help at the finals in react that would.
Speaker 1: Be difficult, Yes, would be tricky, but just going back
Speaker 1: to the player player kind of meal situation, I would say,
Speaker 1: I like to rise over pasta.
Speaker 2: It just made me a little bit lighter.
Speaker 1: Obviously a little bit of proteins or chicken, some veggies,
Speaker 1: and it depends so much. When it's hot, you just
Speaker 1: don't want to have too much of a full stomach,
Speaker 1: So super lighte and a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: gels during the match, dry fruit and yeah, I've taken
Speaker 1: so many of them that the day I retired, banana
Speaker 1: and gel.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be near anywhere near And.
Speaker 3: Were you superstitious in that if you want a good
Speaker 3: run at a tournament and you went to a restaurant
Speaker 3: and had something you had to have.
Speaker 2: Seriously as you were when you rest you know what,
Speaker 2: we go seed of same seats, yes, same sitting sit
Speaker 2: and did everyone else have to eat si as wells
Speaker 2: your team.
Speaker 1: So they were very very careful what they were choosing
Speaker 1: on the first day of the tournament. But you know what,
Speaker 1: with my team, I did not force them to do that,
Speaker 1: but they just kind of very happy to join the party.
Speaker 1: So here when I made the semis, it was pretty
Speaker 1: much fourteen days in a row.
Speaker 2: It was day off, cocos and match day. NOBU, that's
Speaker 2: not bad. Yeah, I wouldn't bind that. That's quite a
Speaker 2: good retick.
Speaker 3: But I find it so interesting the way large ofly
Speaker 3: is athletes. I'm not saying people in normal lifetime. I
Speaker 3: suppose I'm the same at a grandsam. It's not a superstition,
Speaker 3: but I have the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think one of the defense and.
Speaker 1: Excuse to have this crazy superstitious stuff is because our
Speaker 1: daily life is so uncertain and there's so many changes,
Speaker 1: whether you're doing media or as a player on the
Speaker 1: court during the match you have to constantly adjust to something,
Speaker 1: and you are all constantly living in this When do
Speaker 1: you play. I don't know when you're going to be home.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going to be next Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So you give yourself routine and something kind of to
Speaker 1: look forward to.
Speaker 2: That's certain in a way. Yeah, that makes sense to
Speaker 2: kind of have a normal life.
Speaker 1: If like a treat was also seen as a true
Speaker 1: like just just you know, like when you see.
Speaker 2: Food is a treat or was it fuel? Was fuel?
Speaker 1: Because you're constantly thinking, as a professional, Okay, what my
Speaker 1: body needs because it is it is my it is
Speaker 1: the tool how I get where I It's like you know,
Speaker 1: a computer when when you bring a computer to the office.
Speaker 2: So there was the cost. So that was a nice feeling.
Speaker 1: When you retire, you kind of you have you can
Speaker 1: start actually just eat what you enjoy and not having
Speaker 1: to worry how much that is going to I.
Speaker 2: Guess you have to affect your performance.
Speaker 3: I would imagine it always have to be quite careful though,
Speaker 3: because you're not exercising as much. I imagine that you
Speaker 3: know so much changes. So yes, suddenly you can eat
Speaker 3: whatever you want, but you're not the output.
Speaker 1: Well, in a way, it's actually easier because as a player,
Speaker 1: you always worried, at least in my case, maybe because
Speaker 1: my metabolism was so quick, I was always worried. Okay,
Speaker 1: do I have enough energy? So you tend to You
Speaker 1: always eat more where you.
Speaker 2: Know when you know when you're not performing. You don't
Speaker 2: feel like I guess eating that well. I mean there,
Speaker 2: we're very different people, you know what. I'm just loving
Speaker 2: the fact how much we are going.
Speaker 5: About talking at all about what I wrote down. But
Speaker 5: this is why I love it.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: I feel like we can keep chatting for another two
Speaker 1: three hours. I think by then we might have a
Speaker 1: problem with our networks and we might be fired.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we might might be like.
Speaker 1: So we might actually do this one really quickly and
Speaker 1: get to a few points I wanted to discuss with you,
Speaker 1: and then let's just plan for Indian wells. I think
Speaker 1: that would be our next tournament where we see each
Speaker 1: other and we discuss food, we discuss superstitious.
Speaker 2: We discuss go we discuss restaurant situation in the desert. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 2: loving you, I could live there. I could.
Speaker 3: I know they play a lot of golf. I don't
Speaker 3: play golf, and you could still, but I think so
Speaker 3: someone's in the everage age is quite old.
Speaker 2: It's being younger though.
Speaker 1: I think uring COVID, A lot of young families from
Speaker 1: LA started to come over and it's changing big time.
Speaker 3: So I nearly on my runs, I was in my routine,
Speaker 3: I onally got run over by a golf buggy being
Speaker 3: driven by a lady who's probably at least about one
Speaker 3: hundred yep. She had nearly knocked me over, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my word. And I don't play golf.
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever will, but I think I
Speaker 3: could still live there. So if I buy a house there, you.
Speaker 2: At how sicky?
Speaker 1: You know what? Since since the first time, I is
Speaker 1: that a new word?
Speaker 3: You look after it for you when you're somewhere else
Speaker 3: in the world. I'll house sit, make sure it's fine.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: This has been on my mind since, I hope real
Speaker 1: estate generally listening to this since I won Indian Wells
Speaker 1: the first time. So I was nineteen long time and
Speaker 1: I said I want to live in the desert.
Speaker 2: Nineteen Oh, I'm quite young to want to move to Doner.
Speaker 2: You got happy memories that come. You've got super happy
Speaker 2: memories and it's just a special place. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The energy is just I love it. I love mountains,
Speaker 3: palm trees, sunshine. I just it's so laid back, and
Speaker 3: so I find it difficult to go to Miami because
Speaker 3: Miami I'll be like rushed. My first morning in Miami,
Speaker 3: I went to an exercise class, went to Barry's boot Camp,
Speaker 3: and the instructor said, be careful when you go back
Speaker 3: to your hotel because there are crocodiles around. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: and she then proceeded to tell us how to escape
Speaker 3: from a croc Do you know how you escape from
Speaker 3: a crocodile?
Speaker 2: You have to run in exactly Yes.
Speaker 3: I didn't know this, and I've you know, I've just
Speaker 3: come from Indian Wells, super relaxed, really chilled.
Speaker 2: I could run for miles and up the hills and.
Speaker 3: Then suddenly I'm been todding to be eaten by a
Speaker 3: crocodile on day one in Miami.
Speaker 1: It is quite unfortunate for Miami to be right after
Speaker 1: Indian Wells, because I feel like any tournament after Indian
Speaker 1: Wells is going to feel it'll bit.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we would be. Doesn't the players preferred it
Speaker 2: for the condition? No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Try to find a player that will tell you that
Speaker 1: I prefer I mean, Miami is an amazing tournament, and
Speaker 1: we love James Blake and he has done such an
Speaker 1: incredible work with it, and and I love the new
Speaker 1: new venue.
Speaker 2: It's just the contrast. Oh, it couldn't it can be.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be greater.
Speaker 1: So I feel like if you were going Miami first
Speaker 1: and then Indian Wells, you'd have the sort of intensity
Speaker 1: and relax and also playing wise.
Speaker 2: Oh I love how how we skipped Australia.
Speaker 1: It was, but just to say, coming from Miami then
Speaker 1: to Indian Wells for players would be much easier to
Speaker 1: adjust than going the other way around. Because even when
Speaker 1: I won Indian Wells and I was playing really well,
Speaker 1: by my first practice in Miami, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, like I can't feel the ball, I'm out
Speaker 1: of my bread because of the humidity constantly windy, or
Speaker 1: of the new venue helps it's much more protected. But
Speaker 1: when we were on Keepy's skin, it was just it
Speaker 1: was not fun. It was it was it was busy,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it Wasami so crocodiles madness and okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: just stay for five minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do sorry, let's do a super quick kind
Speaker 2: of reviews. What what happened first week? What did catch
Speaker 2: our eyes? What happened?
Speaker 1: Well, it's tough to say because there, as we said,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of folk.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of who I'm working for the BBC.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of focus on the British players,
Speaker 3: so I find coming into a Grand Slam. Initially, so
Speaker 3: for us, it was how wild Jack Draper do? The
Speaker 3: British got to the semifinals in America and he had
Speaker 3: an injury over preseason, wasn't able to go and train
Speaker 3: with Colors al Choraz, So how is he going to
Speaker 3: be emmea Radacani.
Speaker 2: There's always so much focusing.
Speaker 1: Well, we can talk about it because that match, you know,
Speaker 1: by the time she was playing Schianta, I thought she
Speaker 1: was hitting the balls. Well, she's starting to look physically
Speaker 1: much much stronger, working with a great fitness code.
Speaker 2: Inta.
Speaker 1: Yes, I felt like that's where IgA was starting to
Speaker 1: make a big statement.
Speaker 3: I think it showed the gap that there still is
Speaker 3: and I don't think we should be surprised because Emma's
Speaker 3: rankings around sixty and she's still making her way back
Speaker 3: and she's only just got together with the atarkis.
Speaker 2: Right, I imagine.
Speaker 3: I don't know, when you go with a strengthen conditioning coach,
Speaker 3: they have to get to know your body.
Speaker 2: Your body has to get to know what months with it.
Speaker 3: So but I think the expectations on her are so
Speaker 3: high now. I'm sure that result did sting of courses.
Speaker 3: This is something who's won a Grand Slam title.
Speaker 1: I don't think it should sting because of the way
Speaker 1: Ega was playing that. I mean, it was one of
Speaker 1: the best matches I've I've seen her play, was the
Speaker 1: best match she played here in the stagament until the
Speaker 1: semi finals, where we're going to talk about it very quickly,
Speaker 1: but to me, that was one of the best ones
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Let's quickly mention the one I absolutely
Speaker 1: loved the story of young kid from Brazil eighteen years Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I'm like God, but everyone you speak to and
Speaker 3: this is crazy players, current players, form players, they all
Speaker 3: say he's the real deal.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what I think, And I mean the way
Speaker 2: he hits the ball.
Speaker 1: I do feel like the rackets have made such a
Speaker 1: difference this year, Gig and I feel like ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the matches Dennis has raised to another level. It
Speaker 1: is thanks to the strings, thanks to the rackets. I
Speaker 1: have to say, I use the same brand. The Yournix
Speaker 1: racket just gives you so much control. Really so in
Speaker 1: his case, for Seka, it feels like he can rip
Speaker 1: the ball as hard as he wants to. I mean,
Speaker 1: with was not playing bad, No he wasn't. He was
Speaker 1: the tie break like he ha's a match point, doesn't
Speaker 1: take it. Then they go into the tie break.
Speaker 2: What does he do? He goes for it even more.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I love that. But that's the exuberance
Speaker 3: of youth. They haven't got the scar tissue. Someone like
Speaker 3: on the is covered in scars and all the older players.
Speaker 3: But the young guys coming through, they are going to
Speaker 3: rip it, They're going to charge, They're going to go
Speaker 3: for a lot of them incredible, that section of them
Speaker 3: on sacred among them have that Ben Shelton, I know
Speaker 3: he's a little bit older now, but they have that
Speaker 3: belief and I love it. They have the belief that
Speaker 3: they can go out there and do something.
Speaker 1: Yes, but then at the same time, when you're dead young,
Speaker 1: you might get a little bit tired.
Speaker 2: Oh this is a huge occasion. I'm playing rub Blov.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I win this, met him, never even
Speaker 1: for one second about it.
Speaker 2: You did not blame. There's where we kind of start
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, here's the real deal. He's eighteen.
Speaker 3: For people who haven't seen him, go on YouTube find
Speaker 3: some match footage because he is so exciting. He's fun
Speaker 3: to watch. He talks really well, and you think he's
Speaker 3: still young. In his press conference he seems like a
Speaker 3: really nice boy kid child, still young. But I'm so
Speaker 3: excited because there was so much talk about, you know,
Speaker 3: the Big three and in the women's game, the likes
Speaker 3: of Serena Williams, you know, when they moved aside, what
Speaker 3: would happen? Where's this next generation coming from? And I
Speaker 3: think we're so lucky across both that we've got these
Speaker 3: exciting players coming through.
Speaker 1: I think that's the general feeling of this this year
Speaker 1: Australian Open. I think that's why it went by so quickly,
Speaker 1: Like how are we already in the Saturday final? Because
Speaker 1: there is so much excitement and we are not even
Speaker 1: mentioning Serena anymore. Roger Rafa. We do miss them big time.
Speaker 1: But there is there are so many stories that I mean,
Speaker 1: we could be literally sitting here for the next five
Speaker 1: six hours and just summing up the first week because
Speaker 1: there was so much, so much happening.
Speaker 2: How about Olga Danilovic, I think we're gonna hear a
Speaker 2: lot from her, Do you think so? I think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the lifety big serve. She's a tall
Speaker 1: girl getting stronger physically. That's one thing, let's not forget.
Speaker 1: With Fonseca eighteen and I feel he's very, very strong
Speaker 1: physically already. You know, so many times with these young
Speaker 1: kids we say, yeah, potential, but they still need to
Speaker 1: work on their fitness.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel that way with him. He's ready,
Speaker 2: yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: I think that he's ready to go, and you're kind
Speaker 3: of like, wow, he's I think, yeah, she's she's got
Speaker 3: a great game. She's I think she's matching so much talk.
Speaker 3: Isn't she going with all black? So there's a kind
Speaker 3: of she's like a celebrity couple of boyfriend's gold and explain, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: but she though, I think the way she carries herself,
Speaker 3: the way she plays a height, her physique, her shots,
Speaker 3: her confidence. I think when it all comes together, I
Speaker 3: think it's quite exciting. I enjoyed watching her. I think
Speaker 3: I will enjoy watching her. And it's what I love
Speaker 3: about the first Grand Slam of the year. You come
Speaker 3: in with storylines. This is what we're thinking. You know,
Speaker 3: will know that Jokovic win title number eleven and twenty
Speaker 3: five overall, et cetera, et cetera. But I love these
Speaker 3: other people, eve Lise, the German loser. So you're not
Speaker 3: in the competition, you're on site waiting around. All right,
Speaker 3: you got ten minutes notice and you're out on court
Speaker 3: and you have to go on court. I know, only
Speaker 3: do that you get through to the fourth round. It's
Speaker 3: life changing. The amount of money she can now plan
Speaker 3: her year, she can hire people for she had torment belts.
Speaker 3: I think with her in her fourth round match, it's
Speaker 3: that's what I love it.
Speaker 2: The points.
Speaker 3: I know you're always chasing points, but the money you
Speaker 3: can make at Grand Slam level. Someone like she said
Speaker 3: it herself, this changes everything, and I just think it's
Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, it was a step too far ultimately,
Speaker 3: but the tests get tough and tournaments like this. But
Speaker 3: that's what I love about tournaments, the names that we're
Speaker 3: hearing that maybe we don't know as much about, we're
Speaker 3: going to learn about, and making their name name.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to not a name.
Speaker 1: I just quickly want to touch up on because she
Speaker 1: is a near friend Belling Dubuntu. How cool is it
Speaker 1: to see her playing the way she she is, I
Speaker 1: mean against Naomi as she had to retire by she
Speaker 1: was playing some of her best thenis though I think
Speaker 1: you were going to hear her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine. I've had children, but therefore I
Speaker 3: cannot imagine. And as quickly I'm a name Aska and
Speaker 3: name your Soarker did say, look, guys, you've got to
Speaker 3: remember I have this sort of eleap team around me
Speaker 3: getting me into the place where I can come back.
Speaker 3: She said, I know this is not the normal world
Speaker 3: where you would do this, but still, I mean, Belinda Benchich,
Speaker 3: her daughter Bella is out here with her, But just
Speaker 3: to be able to have that juggle, because as you know,
Speaker 3: you've got to be so committed to what you were
Speaker 3: doing to play like she is playing. After that amount
Speaker 3: of time of having her daughter, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: I think it's great that she has come back, and
Speaker 3: I think it's great that she's come back at the
Speaker 3: level she has because I think if it hadn't worked out,
Speaker 3: maybe she'd have got a bit despondent. But she will
Speaker 3: go away thinking I can still do this and I'm
Speaker 3: still young. He's still young, and there's there's more to come. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: I think it's Yeah. I love yeah stories like that,
Speaker 3: I think, and I.
Speaker 1: Think that from from Ossie perspective, the best storyline obviously
Speaker 1: of the first week was how well Alex deminor kind
Speaker 1: of you know, took all that pressure away from his shoulders,
Speaker 1: all the tension that has been on him understandably so
Speaker 1: now that he I want to say he is a
Speaker 1: grand Slam potential just because of how hard he works
Speaker 1: for everything and the commitment.
Speaker 2: I think he's great.
Speaker 3: But do you honestly, I think he's a lovely guy,
Speaker 3: But do you really think I mean a lot a
Speaker 3: lot just doing honest A lot of things would have
Speaker 3: to to go his way.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you get lucky and suddenly the drawer opens
Speaker 1: up a couple of big names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think he's I think for for what
Speaker 3: he's I think last year was incredible. And when you
Speaker 3: think he had the hip injury picked up at Wimbledon
Speaker 3: and he still ended in the top eight, came to
Speaker 3: Turin for the tour finals.
Speaker 2: It's I think.
Speaker 3: He's his his dedication, his attitude, as you say, the
Speaker 3: way he carries the pressure on the straight.
Speaker 2: He got engaged Katie Bolter, so.
Speaker 1: That talking about I had a wonderful story. How cool
Speaker 1: was that that when they were playing at the same
Speaker 1: time and he kind of as soon as he's met finished,
Speaker 1: he was running running to watch Katie.
Speaker 3: He was so last year he did it, he was there,
Speaker 3: was really crazy. She won two titles last year and
Speaker 3: the same weekend she won a title, he won a title,
Speaker 3: and I think was he in Acapulco and he suddenly
Speaker 3: got a flight to San Diego And I don't think
Speaker 3: I've made that up and suddenly he pops up in
Speaker 3: San Diego. I mean, he's sort of probably delirious, but
Speaker 3: he wanted to be there for her. And I think
Speaker 3: it's an example of how they are helping. She's become
Speaker 3: better and I think it's changed him as well. They're
Speaker 3: they're helping each other.
Speaker 1: Well, talking about that, how about Moon Feels and Elena
Speaker 1: to be Tolina. I mean that was crazy beating the
Speaker 1: couple the same number seed on the same corepector berg.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't make that up.
Speaker 3: It's so great and it's great to see great see
Speaker 3: the level she's at and we know the change is
Speaker 3: the game that she's made in Monthly's saying I'm not
Speaker 3: going to win this tournament, but he's he's playing really well.
Speaker 3: He won in Auckland, so he's got a title to
Speaker 3: start the year. They you know, they've got Sky that
Speaker 3: their daughter. I mean, it's just I mean they're doing
Speaker 3: it for her long term. They're out there. No, there's
Speaker 3: some really nice stories and it shows it can work
Speaker 3: because as you know more than anyone, it's it's a
Speaker 3: grueling life and it's a grueling shadow.
Speaker 2: It doesn't stop just stedy.
Speaker 3: And you know from Australia, people go everywhere, you know,
Speaker 3: all different levels of the tennis pyramid.
Speaker 1: People just scattered and then I feel like we all
Speaker 1: go everywhere wandering around.
Speaker 2: And then Indians that's what.
Speaker 3: I that's like an oasis, is like an oasis that
Speaker 3: we're headed towards.
Speaker 1: I feel like they are almost there. Okay, so fast forwarding. Yes,
Speaker 1: we had so many storylines. I do want to mention
Speaker 1: just the fact and how incredible it is just to
Speaker 1: be on site. It's one of the few tournaments as
Speaker 1: a player, as a media you just never want to
Speaker 1: leave because there is so much to do.
Speaker 2: It's such a wonderful energy. Right. Normally we like to
Speaker 2: come into our work get out.
Speaker 1: Not here.
Speaker 3: No, It's like a festival, isn't it. And I think
Speaker 3: the one great thing is the demographic of tennis fans
Speaker 3: is I don't want to say old, but it's middle aged.
Speaker 3: It's not young, largely the people who are tuning in,
Speaker 3: the people who are watching. But here it's all young.
Speaker 3: When you look outside, everyone on the bean bags, in
Speaker 3: the deck chairs, they're really young. And if we can
Speaker 3: get those young people and keep them in tennis, and
Speaker 3: that's what Tennis Australia do so well in everything they
Speaker 3: lay on. I mean, the site is I haven't even
Speaker 3: been over to one half of the site yet, but
Speaker 3: the site is so vast, it's so family friendly. Everything
Speaker 3: they can do. Things seems too crowded. I never feel
Speaker 3: that certain Grand Slams I'm trying to get through and
Speaker 3: I can't move and it's really difficult.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: There's always space, everyone's always relaxed, there's always something, there's
Speaker 3: just a there's there's a love. And they call it
Speaker 3: the Happy Slam, and you can see that the players
Speaker 3: are in a good move because it's kind of the
Speaker 3: start of the season. It's like first day it school,
Speaker 3: first week at school, when you're happy, when the sunshines,
Speaker 3: you feel better, happier, and it's just it's a really
Speaker 3: lovely feeling. And I think they keep setting the bar
Speaker 3: and they keep setting the bar, and it's it looks
Speaker 3: it's a wonderful way to start the For me personally,
Speaker 3: it gets harder each year leaving family because you're home
Speaker 3: for a big block and then you go so far away.
Speaker 2: But when you do get here, it's it's really lovely. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's incredible. Maybe the first forty eight hours they were
Speaker 2: like when you fall in the river the bridge, we
Speaker 2: did have something get through that.
Speaker 1: Then I think maybe the message here is to arrive
Speaker 1: a bit earlier. Next year can really make this still.
Speaker 3: Also, if you wear contact lenses, put them in when
Speaker 3: you go running with other.
Speaker 1: And how about we do really previous of next year
Speaker 1: Austra and Open. So we actually have a commitment and
Speaker 1: we make the promise. Now we will be here before
Speaker 1: the tournament, at this very pretty same table and discussing
Speaker 1: what is about to happen.
Speaker 3: My predictions are quite bad, largely as in they never happen.
Speaker 3: Although the two as we speak now.
Speaker 2: We can just discuss the avocado situation and the river
Speaker 2: run are still in the tournament.
Speaker 3: So I just want to say that now before either
Speaker 3: or both of them lose to the penultimate day of
Speaker 3: the event.
Speaker 2: I have my predictions correct. I also, it's nice we're
Speaker 2: giving each other credit. I did the same.
Speaker 1: It's did you yeah before the tournament teach you?
Speaker 2: Of course no you didn't.
Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't teach you. It is recorded. Really, where
Speaker 1: did that come from? Winning Adelaide? When Meddi is on
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I I luckily only practiced with her,
Speaker 1: and I told my coach, you know, bold girl, I've
Speaker 1: done many years ago. And that's what I literally felt like,
Speaker 1: because when Maddy has a good.
Speaker 2: Day in the office, you really are just picking up
Speaker 2: the balls. Okay, so this is happening.
Speaker 1: We are recording this before actually the woman's finals, so
Speaker 1: let's just skip through the second week and what do
Speaker 1: we think here?
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Jijiba sitting courtside that semifinal between Maddy and Shriantik was,
Speaker 1: I can, with all the respect to everyone and all
Speaker 1: the matches I've played and watched, Serena at her best,
Speaker 1: and this is right up there. The level of speed, intensity, power, precision.
Speaker 3: I mean, to start with, Chantek just brings a level
Speaker 3: of intensity and you know that's going to happen. And
Speaker 3: she hadn't really been tested. She had lost fourteen games
Speaker 3: and seven of those written in her first round. And
Speaker 3: then suddenly you get madzine series. You say when she's
Speaker 3: on and when I love about Madison Keys. Now she's
Speaker 3: twenty nine, got married to Beyond for TAngelo, for mat
Speaker 3: P player. He's now her coach, and the dynamic is great,
Speaker 3: and he said, he said in press conference, Look, I
Speaker 3: was never maybe the most skillful, but I've got a
Speaker 3: really good brain and tactically and you can see her
Speaker 3: listening to him, and you can see that she's not
Speaker 3: trying to get out of points as quickly as possibly
Speaker 3: she's made was in the semifinals. I mean, we were
Speaker 3: all more so calm. He just wasn't there was there
Speaker 3: was nothing, but that must be quite nice.
Speaker 2: I don't know as a player if you look.
Speaker 1: Like absolutely like the I mean, we can see one
Speaker 1: of the biggest matches of Maddy's life and we all
Speaker 1: look at him, She looks at him, and he's.
Speaker 2: Just as cool as as it gets.
Speaker 1: And I think Maddy has been the player that has
Speaker 1: used the advantage having the coaches now so close to
Speaker 1: the players the MOSST just because of all the input
Speaker 1: that Piorn has given her throughout the matches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and through the tiebreak he was speaking to every
Speaker 3: time she went to the to the towel. You know,
Speaker 3: she has a massive game. She's still has a lot
Speaker 3: of scar tissue from the US Open Fine in twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen against Loan Stevens, whom she just swept aside. But
Speaker 3: to be back here seven and a half years later
Speaker 3: with all the other players around, everyone coming through and
Speaker 3: she had It's not like she had an easy run,
Speaker 3: was it. Collins, Rebeccina, s Fitlina Fionte. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: difficult quality players and she's coming through. But the big thing,
Speaker 3: I don't know it will have happened by the time
Speaker 3: this goes out, but it will be how they both
Speaker 3: handle the occasion and handle the emotions.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to come down to small details,
Speaker 1: and I just hold for Maddie that she plays her
Speaker 1: best tennis. But in some ways I'm thinking Arena being
Speaker 1: in this situation already before knowing what it takes twice
Speaker 1: in a row to win this title. There's not going
Speaker 1: to be too many longer earlies. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to be about who gets that first strike in
Speaker 1: because of what they bod like to do that a
Speaker 1: lot of white serfs, I mean, they find incredible angles there.
Speaker 1: I do feel like Arena does a little bit better
Speaker 1: job to step in more on the second survey return
Speaker 1: where Maddy kind of still sits a little bit behind
Speaker 1: the baseline. So I think it will be huge how
Speaker 1: well Madison can serve today. But the thing is someone
Speaker 1: kind of likes to dictate, and now today's she's not
Speaker 1: going to be able to interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be, but I think you're right that
Speaker 3: that match Keys against Syon Tech was was huge just
Speaker 3: and I credited shon Tech sometimes that you can see
Speaker 3: the computer malfunctioning and she doesn't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: I think she stayed pretty calm, yep, and I think
Speaker 3: credit to her. I think Winfisett has been a really
Speaker 3: good importance, absolutely, but she stayed. Obviously she was, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to fit. I mean seven double faults seven sec.
Speaker 2: But she stayed.
Speaker 3: I thought she stayed really calm considering the fact that
Speaker 3: she had a match point and the position that she.
Speaker 1: Was in, and I mean some of the rallies, how
Speaker 1: she was able to stay with that pace off I
Speaker 1: believe medison ball and defend and yeah, you're right, you've
Speaker 1: got it such an amazing job as well. I think
Speaker 1: I think we're going to leave it here and let's
Speaker 1: see what happens during the weekend. It's going to be
Speaker 1: obviously incredible final on board ends and we'll just sum
Speaker 1: it up all in Indian Worlds.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think I think that sounds like a really good idea.
Speaker 3: We'll both be back into our routine. We'll have got
Speaker 3: rid of the jetla. You have played some golf, you see.
Speaker 2: We'll give you some golf reports and we'll just sort
Speaker 2: of basically pick up from where we left off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By then we'll have our AVO catalogos, so we'll be
Speaker 1: ready to work.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about. Thank you so much, thank you
Speaker 2: for having me. Yeah, speak to you very soon. Speak
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