Speaker 1: Welcome in friends, do Fantasy Pros. It is Leading Off.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Chris Welsh on the final week
Speaker 1: of Leading Off and the final Wonky Wednesday. It is
Speaker 1: Kelly Kirby in the house with a Kelly Kirby Wonky bonus,
Speaker 1: which is fun, which made me do a whole lot
Speaker 1: of work. Kelly before, I might have done more work
Speaker 1: on that than anything else. But I'm glad to be here,
Speaker 1: but a little sad that this will be our final
Speaker 1: Wonky Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Kelly, Yeah, so am.
Speaker 3: I I was getting ready for it and I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: next week maybe we can do you know whatever, and
Speaker 3: I thought there is no next week, so I guess
Speaker 3: we got to do it today.
Speaker 1: Or do you like Dan today? Everyone? I sent a
Speaker 1: message to Fantasy Pros asking for the show your year round.
Speaker 1: There you go. That'll get more Me and Kelly on
Speaker 1: the show hopefully. But like I said, we are gonna
Speaker 1: be giving you what the Wonky bonus was, which took
Speaker 1: me a little bit. We got lots of news and notes,
Speaker 1: we've got fantasy stuff in here. But I will say,
Speaker 1: by the way, I love the bonuses when you have
Speaker 1: this type of homework, because you always have these moments
Speaker 1: where you're just like, oh yeah, like I didn't realize that,
Speaker 1: and I actually had that with a couple of moments.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what it is here and just a
Speaker 1: tiny bit, and that race is getting hot, It is
Speaker 1: getting very very hot. And your boy. Also, I believe
Speaker 1: I was the only one with a dual homer hit yesterday.
Speaker 1: So I cracked forty at least I'm not in the
Speaker 1: fifties with everybody else. But I did crack forty. But
Speaker 1: let's get into the news and notes and what it was.
Speaker 1: So today we have the home run bonus. Yesterday it
Speaker 1: was the blow save bonus in Major League Baseball as
Speaker 1: Craig Kimberl walked home the winning run in the bottom
Speaker 1: of the tenth inning. And Tuesday a four to three
Speaker 1: loss to the Padres, and you also had Josh Hater
Speaker 1: blows saved for the Padres in the top of the ninth,
Speaker 1: which I believe was his fourth blown as a Padre.
Speaker 1: What is with these closers.
Speaker 3: Kelly Well, and especially on the playoff teams. You know,
Speaker 3: as a as a Cubs fan, I'm used to blown saves.
Speaker 3: Like I'd love to play in a fantasy league where
Speaker 3: that's a positive category because I just draft the Cubs bull.
Speaker 2: Pen and call it good.
Speaker 3: But what are these teams going to do start in October? Like,
Speaker 3: how do you feel confident in either of those guys
Speaker 3: coming in at all?
Speaker 1: They made these moves for exactly what you're saying. They
Speaker 1: made these moves for the dependency they this is what
Speaker 1: they did with them, and these guys just completely blown across.
Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting too because this early, early early
Speaker 1: mock draft that we're doing, I really didn't feel and
Speaker 1: this is what's I mean. I'd say there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that are kind of broken with early mock
Speaker 1: draft drafts in general, but one of those is like
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do with closers, and
Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to attack closers. We did
Speaker 1: have a couple of people that, you know, just like
Speaker 1: you would see in you know, March next year, guys
Speaker 1: taking closures kind of early. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think there were guys that were falling because people
Speaker 1: don't really understand and the dependency of who's going to
Speaker 1: be who. I just the early mocks closers are a
Speaker 1: really weird spot. I didn't quite know what to do
Speaker 1: with them, though I did end up getting Ryan Hellesley
Speaker 1: later than he should go, much later than he will
Speaker 1: probably actually go outside the top one hundred. I mentioned
Speaker 1: that's not going to be the case, but this just
Speaker 1: kind of breeds to that and might might because it's
Speaker 1: always just one of two things as well, is when
Speaker 1: you have a couple guys at the top, then we
Speaker 1: hoard the problem is a couple of the elite guys
Speaker 1: at the top have changed and been a problem and
Speaker 1: hater in that. Do you think we can have our
Speaker 1: reverse course next season where we don't do the really
Speaker 1: early closer thing like we did that like was very
Speaker 1: very prominent this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would love to see that because
Speaker 3: I did not understand the like the NFBC was just
Speaker 3: I mean, closers were going like third round, second round,
Speaker 3: and it made no sense to me. And in one
Speaker 3: of the league, I'm in my championships two week long series,
Speaker 3: I have kept we only get two keepers, and I
Speaker 3: kept Leam Hendricks and I was like, Okay, great now
Speaker 3: that's taken care of and I don't have to worry
Speaker 3: about it anymore. And I'm currently losing the championship matchup
Speaker 3: for in saves Ford or nothing. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna do that again.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I hated it.
Speaker 3: I thought that was I didn't that was going.
Speaker 1: But seeah. Also, I think this year was reactionary to
Speaker 1: the previous years of not of having inconsistent closer throughout
Speaker 1: the whole thing and only having a couple guys at
Speaker 1: the top on top of us not really having I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we had half of the
Speaker 1: closer roles coming into this year really settled, like really
Speaker 1: really settled. There's so much uncertainty that led to it.
Speaker 1: But I think we'll have another round of this of
Speaker 1: like reactionary. Look what Josh Hater's done with us people
Speaker 1: that drafted right right. I saw Glacias was going in
Speaker 1: the top like seven, he gets traded, loses that. Kenley's
Speaker 1: been inconsistent, Kimberll's been inconsistent, Liam Hendrix, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: all of these have been inconsistent that I think you
Speaker 1: are gonna have a turn on this. And where if
Speaker 1: I was just throwing out like a guess, let's say
Speaker 1: I would guess there was probably like ten closers that
Speaker 1: went inside the top one hundred. I'm not sure that
Speaker 1: would be the case. And if they did, I'll bet
Speaker 1: you it's gonna start two or three rounds later and
Speaker 1: the hoarding will come in that seventy to one hundred range,
Speaker 1: where then they'll all go not like starting into the
Speaker 1: thirties or something like that. So we're always we're always
Speaker 1: kind of reactionary to it. But God, has it been
Speaker 1: god awful? And Hater too. Hater's probably the most disappointing one.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it was that was the fight, right,
Speaker 3: everybody was like Hendricks or Hater, Hendricks or Hater, And
Speaker 3: I mean, Hater's just been a mess, both in Milwaukee
Speaker 3: and after he got traded. Even when he's good, he's
Speaker 3: not remotely that dominant that thing you drafted person you
Speaker 3: drafted in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Well in Milwaukee as well, like Hater leaving, we immediately
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Devin Williams. But they are Rogers there too,
Speaker 1: and I don't I can't personally recall off Rogers a
Speaker 1: free age and or anything like that. But that's just
Speaker 1: gonna be more muddied waters and close situations is the
Speaker 1: word time to see it too. In your final weeks
Speaker 1: and your final stretches and Kelly, can are you gonna
Speaker 1: be able to pull out that matchup? Even though we
Speaker 1: got save.
Speaker 3: Issues, It's it's so close. It's close week I could
Speaker 3: win or lose every category. And I know he listens
Speaker 3: to the show, so I want to give the worst
Speaker 3: advice possible, but but he again, he's out of fab
Speaker 3: so there's nothing he can really do at this point.
Speaker 2: It's just on me to not screw it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: Also wanted to give right. I also wanted to give
Speaker 3: the shout out to GEMS with Edwin Diaz. Yes, he
Speaker 3: has been phenomenal, so like I could see him being
Speaker 3: the one that everybody I'll take.
Speaker 1: Has been if I recall been really good. That was
Speaker 1: actually my like that was my big guy that that's
Speaker 1: gonna help me in whatever preseason rank con There's lots
Speaker 1: of things that won't help me, like Spencer Torkelsen, but
Speaker 1: that'll be one because class A I was very aggressive on.
Speaker 1: That was like my pick hater and Liam Hendrix were
Speaker 1: pretty much non existent to me because I didn't like
Speaker 1: to be the first. But I specifically wanted class A
Speaker 1: in every spot that I could, So that's going to
Speaker 1: help me out. That's gonna be a big one on
Speaker 1: the end of the year. The News and Notes, Glaber
Speaker 1: Torres went three for five three RBI. Tuesdays, Yankees beat
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays and clinched the American League East. It
Speaker 1: is Donezo, no more worries for them, Kelly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were worried about it for about what five
Speaker 3: minutes most of August, but they had such a lead,
Speaker 3: and with the other teams that are so good beating
Speaker 3: up on each other, it was kind of like, once
Speaker 3: you had that lead, I didn't think they could blow it,
Speaker 3: but it was fun to.
Speaker 2: Watch them try.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried. They really really did try. Josh Young,
Speaker 1: in our pursuit of the rookies that are going to
Speaker 1: give us some extra added boost, has continued to do
Speaker 1: so three for four, two homers, five RBIs and Tuesday
Speaker 1: five nothing win over the Mariners. Josh Young definitely been
Speaker 1: a nice little bright spot, and we actually had another
Speaker 1: rookie that's called up. It's amazing these guys keep happening.
Speaker 1: Josh Young is gonna definitely be somebody on a lot
Speaker 1: of radars next year, early ish in drafts, not crazy,
Speaker 1: but early ish. A couple other notes here. Bailey over
Speaker 1: dominated on Tuesday night in the White Sox had ten
Speaker 1: strikeouts and seven and one third inning shut out baseball.
Speaker 1: Bailey over performing the way that everybody was drafting him
Speaker 1: as a sleeper in the season. Marcus Stroman really good performance.
Speaker 1: Had six strikeouts over seven innings as well, both Over
Speaker 1: and Stroman. This is the type of pitching performances we
Speaker 1: need from guys just like this at this point because
Speaker 1: that all became streamers too. That's interesting thing. I think
Speaker 1: Stroman and Over were kind of mainstays to rotations and
Speaker 1: all at most streamers hopefully helping maybe not helping a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 3: This week, Yeah, you got you have to be so
Speaker 3: careful because I remember I looked at Kyle British and
Speaker 3: he just got destroyed yesterday, So it was like, you
Speaker 3: have to just watch what you're doing. But yeah, Over
Speaker 3: has been when he's healthy, when he's out there, he's
Speaker 3: so solid on whips and your ratios, and occasionally he
Speaker 3: does this with strikeouts. So I like him again going
Speaker 3: in the next year, but it's just tough to trust him.
Speaker 1: Hunter Green struck out ten, allowed just one earn run
Speaker 1: in a no decision against the Pirates. That is another
Speaker 1: one of those guys being highly drafted, though Lodolo is
Speaker 1: clearly passing him. It happened in our early mock draft.
Speaker 1: I took Lodolo Hunter green Head sat there for a
Speaker 1: little bit. I didn't really think about it. Tristan Cassis
Speaker 1: on those rookies to run Homer and three runs scored.
Speaker 1: On Tuesday Night, the Red Sox beat the Orioles thirteen
Speaker 1: to nine, and two pieces I mentioned with the one
Speaker 1: prospect was Logan o'hop is going to be called up
Speaker 1: by the Angels today, which I'm pretty excited about, and
Speaker 1: the raysor activating Tyler Glass now. So first on o Hop.
Speaker 1: I watched him in the AFL last year when he
Speaker 1: was with Philly, and he is impressive. He's also one
Speaker 1: of the just the coolest guys. I think I've told
Speaker 1: this story on here and if I had, if you've
Speaker 1: heard it, apologies. You know, on a lot of podcasts
Speaker 1: going to say things, but there's this moment with Logan
Speaker 1: last year. I really loved it was in the AFL.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting up front these two guys. But there's yapp
Speaker 1: in about guys and the ones like the Bryson Stott
Speaker 1: is up to bat and he's like, you know this
Speaker 1: Bryson stop top one hundred and Logan's standing right there
Speaker 1: and these just two gentlemen are just talking about Bryson
Speaker 1: Stott and Logan in the batter's box turns over and
Speaker 1: goes it's too low and they're like what And he like,
Speaker 1: he's ranked too low on Baseball America and he just
Speaker 1: just talking to fans about Bryson Stott, who's up at
Speaker 1: the play. Super fan friendly, super positive energy guy, huge power,
Speaker 1: makes great contact, killed it with the Angels so far.
Speaker 1: He's a catcher of the future. He's a catcher I
Speaker 1: want to bank on next year. So I love that
Speaker 1: he's getting a little run here. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it would mean. I mean, seven games for a rookie
Speaker 1: catcher doesn't like do a lot for me. But if
Speaker 1: you have catcher woes, you might be able to run
Speaker 1: into a little bit of power for o hop right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you need any sort of streamer in that position,
Speaker 3: I would give him a shot before most of what
Speaker 3: else is out there on the waivers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Jims, this is a good question. Shay Lngeliers
Speaker 1: or logan o hoop ooh. That is they are razor thin.
Speaker 1: Long term, I think I want the bat of o
Speaker 1: hop if I have to say it personally, but the
Speaker 1: Leers might have more run next season as like a
Speaker 1: full time player. So that's like really really close. And
Speaker 1: then on Tyler Glass. Now, Tyler Glass now have been
Speaker 1: really good in multiple performances. He's coming up. I'm actually
Speaker 1: really surprised he's going to get this start, but he's
Speaker 1: going to be on a pitch count. He never hit
Speaker 1: over fifty pitches in any of his rehab starts, so
Speaker 1: my assumption would be something similar between fifty and sixty
Speaker 1: pitches probably going to be his cap, which is probably
Speaker 1: going to take him out of a win territory. So
Speaker 1: my question is, Kelly, would you trust Do you trust
Speaker 1: Tyler Glass now in a situation where it is all
Speaker 1: but likely you are not going to be able to
Speaker 1: register any type of a win coming off of this injury.
Speaker 2: I don't want him today.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trust him for just today because of that
Speaker 3: the pitch count, and also he's just kind of he's
Speaker 3: going to have to ease back in in some fashion.
Speaker 3: That was a major surgery, so even warming up. You
Speaker 3: know again, pitching the minor leagues is like they struck
Speaker 3: up fourteen better, Like yeah, of course they did, but
Speaker 3: now welcome back and the whole different it's a whole
Speaker 3: different setup. So I would leave him on the bench
Speaker 3: for today.
Speaker 1: I'm also I agree with you because if anything, what
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're chasing some strikeouts and ratios, but
Speaker 1: in that small stent the odds, and this would be
Speaker 1: like a poker thing, like sixty five percent chance here
Speaker 1: that you're going to screw yourself as far as the
Speaker 1: little things that you're chasing, and you are really you're chasing,
Speaker 1: and uh, you're chasing it? What is the compe? I'm
Speaker 1: like a poker. I completely forgot. You're chasing like a
Speaker 1: one card flush, an inside flush or an inside streak
Speaker 1: is what you're looking for here. It's not worth it's
Speaker 1: not worth paying, I guess for this start with Tyler
Speaker 1: Glass now coming off of this injury, next year is
Speaker 1: gonna be great. I kept him in a keeper league
Speaker 1: a big term, Scott White's actually keep Points Keeper League
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and he costs me a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I kept him because he's such a great talent. But
Speaker 1: it's nothing that we're wanting to play for right now.
Speaker 3: And I would add that, I guess if you're ratios
Speaker 3: are kind of like already said, like you can't really
Speaker 3: lose or win them at this point and you're just
Speaker 3: kind of chasing strikeouts, then fine, But no, I can't
Speaker 3: unless he has some sort of weird like four pitch anything,
Speaker 3: I don't see how he'll get through five.
Speaker 1: Doctor Glenn. He is in my lineup. You've got to believe,
Speaker 1: you can believe, you can believe it, but you're probably
Speaker 1: playing for four innings.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Best case scenario is probably four innings, five strikeouts, and
Speaker 1: hopefully no earned runs. That's the best case scenario. So
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. So I'll watch him go eight yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: go ninety five pitches and everything like that. So on
Speaker 1: the injury front, Corey Seeger does not have any fractures
Speaker 1: in his left forearm. Per Rangers interim manager Tony Beasley,
Speaker 1: he was hit by Matt Boyd on a fastball in
Speaker 1: the eighth inning on Tuesday's game. So, you know, avoiding
Speaker 1: that type of injury for a guy that's had some
Speaker 1: stuff follow him, this is this is great, great news,
Speaker 1: fantasy owners alike in just real baseball.
Speaker 3: It is, yeah, and I mean he's probably gonna miss today,
Speaker 3: but they expecting him to play the weekend, so that's good.
Speaker 1: The chat's killing me, so Doctor Clinton, you guys obviously
Speaker 1: go and score my performance me forgetting what the inside
Speaker 1: straight was. They're like, what was the scoring on that play?
Speaker 1: And then we're talking a while pitch and apparently mister Buster,
Speaker 1: not a fan, says that was a grand slam of
Speaker 1: an error that I had on my poker reference, So
Speaker 1: I apologized everybody on the other injury front, X rays
Speaker 1: came back clean on Jeordnalvauz's left ankle. He rolled it
Speaker 1: in the single in the bottom of the first inning.
Speaker 1: And fun fact, my my cohort, Scott Bagman, was at
Speaker 1: this game and this is the He's gone to two
Speaker 1: Astros games since he's been there, and the most prominent
Speaker 1: player in that game has been hurt both times he
Speaker 1: got there. Julio Rodriguez got hurt this one boom, Jordan
Speaker 1: Alvarez getting hurt. Nope, why no, Bogman no longer allowed
Speaker 1: at any game with important players he can go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I suppose with the Astros we could all just whatever,
Speaker 1: but of all the players, the astros are going to
Speaker 1: get hurt. We don't want it to be Jordan now
Speaker 1: as in Boggman was bad luck. Also, ronnerd Arias is
Speaker 1: being evaluated for some right knee discomfort, and Adrian Hauser
Speaker 1: was placed on the fifteen day il Per Brewers manager
Speaker 1: Craig Council. This is a fun fact you put on
Speaker 1: here from Ben Verlander, Who's had lots of fun facts
Speaker 1: this year. He's full of everything. Aaron Judge was intentionally
Speaker 1: walked tonight and this was two days ago for the
Speaker 1: eighteenth time, so that number might be a tiny bit
Speaker 1: up in two thousand and four. And I find this
Speaker 1: very very funny because everyone's been making a big deal about, like, oh,
Speaker 1: Judge getting intentionally walked. In two thousand and four, Barry
Speaker 1: Bonds was intentionally walked one hundred and twenty times, which
Speaker 1: is still in mind boggling number when you think about Kelly.
Speaker 3: What do you think the home run total would have
Speaker 3: been if they hadn't or you know, like if he
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know how many times he got walked.
Speaker 3: Was that the year he broke it? Or was it
Speaker 3: the year before I don't know, you know, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: See I'm blanking too, But at least that's on baseball
Speaker 3: on that poker. Yeah yeah, I mean, at least have
Speaker 3: screwing up on our topic.
Speaker 1: This reference that I don't have installed in my head.
Speaker 1: Let me make a really weird reference that also I
Speaker 1: can't get to. You know, that's a great question because
Speaker 1: also I tend to think and maybe this is like
Speaker 1: a wildly thought after thing that like sure Bonds was
Speaker 1: always like intentionally walked because of what a great hitter
Speaker 1: he is. But I also felt that like there was
Speaker 1: a comfortability for baseball players doing it to this level
Speaker 1: because they knew he was a cheater, Like they don't
Speaker 1: care like I have to imagine, and obviously baseball just
Speaker 1: changes over time. But I think there's a form of guilt,
Speaker 1: like in you doing that all the time, like baseball
Speaker 1: players want to go at each other and it's you're
Speaker 1: gonna see intentional walks, but one hundred and twenty times
Speaker 1: is astronomical that I really think a lot of that
Speaker 1: was also shrouding, you know, just his cheating is alleged
Speaker 1: steroid and cheating and whatever thing that was going on
Speaker 1: that that played a role in it, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could play the you could play the
Speaker 1: what if a gajillion times over one hundred more homers.
Speaker 1: Maybe if he had gotten all those intentional intentional walks
Speaker 1: down to judge level, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, right, maybe it's yeah, I mean I can see
Speaker 3: that part, but like everybody's saying, I mean, he was
Speaker 3: walked with the bases loaded, like multiple times, and then
Speaker 3: if there's a steroid component to that, I just still
Speaker 3: don't think that they I mean, you're just giving You're
Speaker 3: literally saying, we respect you so much that.
Speaker 2: We're going to just let you have this RBI on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like me, so is loaded situation for sure what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Yeah, there's definitely uh something into that one.
Speaker 1: But I think the overall intentional walks also just kind
Speaker 1: of become about, you know, just become about obviously the
Speaker 1: impact he'sn't have on the game, but that there's something
Speaker 1: of this like, well what do we care? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, this guy's cheating. We're not going
Speaker 1: to let him put numbers up on us. There's not
Speaker 1: that like game, I mean, baseball is so you know,
Speaker 1: like hidden rules and all this stuff behind it that
Speaker 1: you know, intent where teams don't want you to stack
Speaker 1: on runs. I think they're there's also kind of an
Speaker 1: intentional walk, never letting someone have a chance rule that
Speaker 1: sits out there in baseball between players, except if you're
Speaker 1: a big fat cheater. But that's me, that's mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just my guest.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: Some stat heroes, my boy Jose al two A three
Speaker 1: for four, two homers, two rbi, four runs. Yesterday, Anthony
Speaker 1: Santandeer another two home run game. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: his second in the last like five days or so.
Speaker 1: Josh Young was three for four with two homers five rbi.
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, round Orias perfect three for three with
Speaker 1: a homer and RBI. Tristan Cossa has had that homer.
Speaker 1: Ronald d'acunya two homers, two rbi, two runs, two for
Speaker 1: five and fun fact, he was the player I was
Speaker 1: going to pick in today's Wonky Wednesday Bonus, but I
Speaker 1: found out something I learned. He doesn't qualify. He did
Speaker 1: not qualify. We'll tell you what that is here. Jock
Speaker 1: Peterson two for four with a homer. David Hinsley had
Speaker 1: a home run. Ja d Davis with A Homer and
Speaker 1: JJ Blede. Speaking of Ronald d'acunya, what has Ronald d'acunya's
Speaker 1: value changed for you as you go into next year?
Speaker 1: Has it decimated a whole bunch? Is it back to
Speaker 1: the first round top end out?
Speaker 3: Outside of it, he's one of the players I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get me to the championship. So if he wins
Speaker 3: me the championship, I'll draft him number one overall next year.
Speaker 2: But I uh in a twelve team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he'll be kind of right on that turn,
Speaker 3: just you know, because of the injury history, and he's
Speaker 3: kind of the powers down a little bit this year,
Speaker 3: and yet then he just flashes the Akunya brilliance. So
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you see him kind of floating
Speaker 3: around Trout the Trout world, Like I say, somebody wants
Speaker 3: to take it.
Speaker 1: I think the top. I think he's gonna go back
Speaker 1: at the top because Tatis is off that list. Soda.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about what Acuna is done. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's hurt themselves more from an impactful
Speaker 1: top end than Soto. Vlad doesn't really live in that
Speaker 1: world anymore. I think there's more questions than there ever was,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, people want to
Speaker 1: chase those stolen but it's still in base numbers just
Speaker 1: so gross again that even the top end doesn't look elite.
Speaker 1: So getting getting a guy with thirty stolen bases feels
Speaker 1: like getting a fifty stolen base guy three or four
Speaker 1: years ago. That's a type of impact that so trade
Speaker 1: Turner's gonna go up there. Akunya is gonna walk away
Speaker 1: with very likely right at the thirty home run marker
Speaker 1: or thirty stolen base marker with fifteen homers in one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty games. He's going to do it this year.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be forty more games people could project
Speaker 1: the worst case. You could be looking at twenty forty
Speaker 1: and I think with the name power, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be top five. Actually, I don't know where he
Speaker 1: went in our early I could look real quick. I
Speaker 1: don't remember where he went in there, but I assume
Speaker 1: he's going to be top five. What would have been
Speaker 1: interesting would have been had our boy Tatis Junior not
Speaker 1: suffered from any ringworm that maybe we could have seen
Speaker 1: like where he would have gone versus a guy like
Speaker 1: Ronald Acunya. So okay, this might surprise you. Acunya number
Speaker 1: two overall in our early manco Yeah, went, but Julio
Speaker 1: dropped a little too far in that one. But went
Speaker 1: actually went before Trey Turner, which is shocking, before Judge,
Speaker 1: before Jose Ramirez. So yeah, I think top five. I
Speaker 1: think top five is going to be the place he sits.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean once you started listing like the other guys
Speaker 3: that I know were in the first round this year,
Speaker 3: and yeah, who was left? Like Doc said Bushett as well,
Speaker 3: like these are players that just you have to kind
Speaker 3: of downgrade them. So who are you putting in there
Speaker 3: and replace with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think the only guys that sit in like
Speaker 1: a comfortable top end. It's like Otani, Turner, maybe Jose
Speaker 1: Ramirez and Julio. Like I there's other great players, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can put Won Soto in
Speaker 1: there anymore. And you know, Tatis is going to be God,
Speaker 1: We're going to talk so much about Tatus in the
Speaker 1: offseason based on his suspended times and when he comes back,
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, forty games is what
Speaker 1: Akunya missed. And if I told you you were going
Speaker 1: to get fifteen thirty out of tatis in one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty games or you know, twenty twenty five like
Speaker 1: Akunya did, would you still let him fall out of
Speaker 1: the first round even though you're gonna miss that Time's
Speaker 1: that's a question we got to face. I mean, we
Speaker 1: have a prime example of it in Acunya, but it's
Speaker 1: like you're gonna have to eat forty games, but you
Speaker 1: very likely could get similar Acunya production and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, that's still pretty big. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is like on a yahoom meter, but
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty it's gonna play pretty much anywhere, as you know.
Speaker 2: Quick question on Soto. Next year is his walk here?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Or does he have another year after that?
Speaker 1: I believe he has one more year, Okay, this coming
Speaker 1: year and then it's his walk here if I remember correct.
Speaker 1: Chat will probably correct us if we're wrong, but I believe,
Speaker 1: please this coming year is his walk here after this season?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: So I mean for me, oh, he's got two more okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so next year's kind of a question. If it had
Speaker 3: been his walk here, then I'd be like, I think
Speaker 3: we got to bump him back up just a smidge.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like he's I feel.
Speaker 3: Like he's not going to sign their long term and
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a judge year the year after.
Speaker 1: You don't think so, you don't think he's gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: the Tatis stuff kind of heart it because you know
Speaker 1: him and Tatis and Soda are supposed to best friends
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah whatever that is. And they're already
Speaker 1: signed up with Machado and with Tatis, where do you
Speaker 1: think he'll go? Not that we need to do that
Speaker 1: conversation now, but do you think it's like a Yankee situation?
Speaker 3: I just yeah, I think that if you know, if
Speaker 3: they were to win one or something, then that might
Speaker 3: change it. And you know, depending on how Tatis does
Speaker 3: next year, maybe, but with Boris as his agent and
Speaker 3: the way things haven't gone since he got since he
Speaker 3: went there, I just feel like he's gonna make him
Speaker 3: test the market where he'll end up.
Speaker 2: I do not know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see him in Seattle with Julio,
Speaker 3: but that's me.
Speaker 1: I think this offseason will be the really big important
Speaker 1: one for if he resigns with the Padres, because I
Speaker 1: think you gotta get it done. You can't let I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you can make it go one more you
Speaker 1: you can't go into the walk here, exactly what the
Speaker 1: Nationals did by moving him. You can't let him go
Speaker 1: into the walk here. But this off season I think
Speaker 1: is maybe the most important for his find as far
Speaker 1: as like how much he re signs and whatnot. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this for me personally, during spring training
Speaker 1: going to be fascinating. I will be on the backfields
Speaker 1: of the Padres and I'll let you know what the
Speaker 1: chaos is of Tatis, Machado and him all together in
Speaker 1: those backfields, which by the way, are very accessible backfields.
Speaker 1: Guys are walking around. It's one of the most successful
Speaker 1: back accessible backfields that you can find. So we'll be very,
Speaker 1: very fascinating. And as if everyone remembers, it's on my Instagram,
Speaker 1: my me and Machado picture from last offseason, which was fun.
Speaker 1: He was in a very good mood that day. So
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get soda as well. On the pitching side.
Speaker 1: For the stat hero is yesterday Bailey overs seven to one.
Speaker 1: Thursdays we mentioned ten strikeouts, Zach Grinky seven innings, two strikeouts,
Speaker 1: four hits with one walk, no earned runs. Blast from
Speaker 1: the Past. Marcus Stroman went seven, struck out six, Hunter
Speaker 1: Greens struck out those ten, Michaels struck out nine over
Speaker 1: six got michaelis is a dude I struggle with Next year.
Speaker 1: We don't need to get into it, but as far
Speaker 1: as valuing him, I just don't know where to go
Speaker 1: with it. Stat zero gen Carlos Stanton good Old for
Speaker 1: five with four oh for five with three k's, Manny
Speaker 1: Machado and Josh Donaldson, our O for three with three
Speaker 1: k list Is Kesten Hiro, Rodolfo Castro and Johanniel Swarez
Speaker 1: and some for four with three ks. Alex calls, Zach
Speaker 1: Collins at where to Escobar and Mike Trout On the
Speaker 1: pitching blow ups, cal Bradish, as you mentioned, blew up
Speaker 1: seven earned runs and two and one thirds of an inning.
Speaker 1: Michael Waka he went three three and one third gave
Speaker 1: up six, Carlos Carrasco gave up four, couldn't get to
Speaker 1: the fourth inning. Lancelyn did get to the fifth but
Speaker 1: gave up ten hits four and runs, and Jose Burrios
Speaker 1: just out five and one third five and runs seven strikeouts.
Speaker 1: What a what a disaster of us having to care
Speaker 1: about I mean, at least we don't have to care
Speaker 1: about Jose Burriels next year. We don't have to do
Speaker 1: this bit in this dance, like what if? What if?
Speaker 1: It's like, Nope, we know what it is and it sucks.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to question it. I think people
Speaker 3: who lived in Minnesota we were all like, eh, he
Speaker 3: had going to Toronto in the East.
Speaker 2: We were just like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: If he doesn't get to play the you know, the
Speaker 3: Guardians and the Tigers and the Royals, I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to play him. So yeah, I think I think he's
Speaker 3: showing us exactly who who he is at this point.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, don don done over on the home run
Speaker 1: contest where one of our friends is going to win
Speaker 1: that Tatis Junior signed jersey. Yes, I have the double
Speaker 1: shot yesterday. I don't drink coffee, but I had a
Speaker 1: double shot with Al Tuove. Helpless of Miami and High
Speaker 1: Cubbies are not going away though, because cat Fox is
Speaker 1: in the lead. Of fifty six did not have a
Speaker 1: call because they had cat Fox had Jornavarez, but Helpless
Speaker 1: and Al scal both the fifty five high Cubby jumped
Speaker 1: up to fifty four. So we have four people within
Speaker 1: a two home run lead here going into this final
Speaker 1: seven days week whatever it is of baseball, So it
Speaker 1: should be tight. And Kelly, you potentially might make this
Speaker 1: race even crazier. So what is the Wednesday Wonky bonus?
Speaker 3: So I was actually gonna go, I'm officiating a wedding
Speaker 3: on Saturday, And at first I was going to say
Speaker 3: only players who are married, and then I thought that
Speaker 3: was a little esoteric, even for you and me, Welsh,
Speaker 3: so I decided I decided we're gonna go.
Speaker 2: A different direction.
Speaker 1: So today I'm just tell you we did talk about
Speaker 1: this aident. I'm really glad you did that because I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that whole thing. And that's a
Speaker 1: whole can of worms. Wow, I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So uh so for today, a call a player who
Speaker 3: has fewer than one hundred career home runs, so ninety
Speaker 3: nine are lower coming into today's game, and then you
Speaker 3: received two times in number of home runs that he
Speaker 3: hits today, So I mean he can cross one hundred today,
Speaker 3: but putting into the games.
Speaker 1: Get an extra home run? Can we get an extra
Speaker 1: home run if they're also married.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should totally have gone with the faithful too,
Speaker 3: but no, so I took that off the board.
Speaker 2: Figure, we just stick to numbers as opposed. We'll do
Speaker 2: it social life. Yeah, if I have to do that.
Speaker 3: If I get to do like twenty five of these,
Speaker 3: we might get there.
Speaker 1: So okay, I like to see and that's why I
Speaker 1: found out. I was actually gonna go with Ronald Acunia.
Speaker 1: But he has one hundred and twenty homers. I didn't
Speaker 1: even realize that, so in pretty impressive number. So we'll
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Speaker 1: gonna just burn through a couple you guys know the
Speaker 1: drill ones I found. Luke Sessa was the number one
Speaker 1: bet over on the betting pros prop cheat sheet. Maybe
Speaker 1: stuff you can look over on bet mgm because a
Speaker 1: couple of the plays are on here. Two and a
Speaker 1: half strikeouts projected at four and a half minus one
Speaker 1: eighty on DK Josh Winder was your plus money strikeout play.
Speaker 1: Only three and a half strikeouts is the number projected
Speaker 1: at four that is plus one twenty on bet mgm.
Speaker 1: That's up against White Sox. Probably my favorite. And this
Speaker 1: didn't work out a couple of weeks ago or last week,
Speaker 1: but Paul Goldschmidt on bet mgm one total base projected
Speaker 1: at two minus one forty five not even bad juice
Speaker 1: on bet mgm one total base and Chris Morel your
Speaker 1: plus money play one total base projected at one and
Speaker 1: a half and this is over on DK plus one thirty.
Speaker 1: So any thoughts on any of these you got, Sessa, Winder, Goldschmidt, morel.
Speaker 3: I think I think that since Snana Pittsburgh game started,
Speaker 3: so you probably can't get it on that, But what
Speaker 3: I can tell you is we had a frost warning
Speaker 3: last night here in Minnesota, so I think, and they're
Speaker 3: going to play start that game at like six forty pm,
Speaker 3: so I feel like the strikeouts, there's a high potential
Speaker 3: for him to get that one for Winder, just because
Speaker 3: it's going to be cold and people hate hitting that's
Speaker 3: cold out. And of course I don't know. I feel
Speaker 3: like I would. I feel like i'd be willing to
Speaker 3: do one total base on Paul Goultchmith pretty much do it.
Speaker 1: I think I'll always do it. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: help myself. Just had two hits against Milwaukee. He's had
Speaker 1: a really interesting run versus Milwaukee this year where any
Speaker 1: three games series will have one game where he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a hit. It is against Woodruff, so keep that
Speaker 1: in mind. But he's got like a two forty one
Speaker 1: career average against Woodruff, so you've got a one in
Speaker 1: four chance is essentially what you're saying. If you get
Speaker 1: for it batch, you might work it. What do you think,
Speaker 1: by the way, the tier behind the high hair does
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Speaker 2: I think that works.
Speaker 3: I was gonna I didn't have time, but I was
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the leading off royal court. That's amazing, it's an
Speaker 1: amazing idea. We need some artwork on that. I don't
Speaker 1: love that I am, but you know what say, I
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Speaker 1: into our home run calls of the day. I feel good.
Speaker 1: I feel actually can tell you I didn't rock everybody
Speaker 1: like you know, you guys into the fifties and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and I was here the whole year Joe
Speaker 1: had his cheak code, but forty was a number I
Speaker 1: wanted to get to. It's really an adjustment period learning
Speaker 1: this contest this year since I wasn't around for it
Speaker 1: last year. So I am very happy to have reached
Speaker 1: the forty marker, even though number one is into the fifties.
Speaker 1: So hopefully I can do better even into the next year.
Speaker 1: But I'm hoping to tag on more. And I told
Speaker 1: you I was looking at ronald'cooney. I wanted to attack
Speaker 1: that matchup today. Decided to go with Austin Reiley, who
Speaker 1: has ninety six career home runs. Hasn't exactly been the
Speaker 1: big pull on homers lately, but ninety six career homers
Speaker 1: qualifies me for the wonky bonus, So Austin Riley's going
Speaker 1: to be my call. Who do you got, Kelly? I have?
Speaker 3: So I actually was going to set that number based
Speaker 3: on how many of Led Guerrero Junior head. I was like,
Speaker 3: we'll see where he's at, and he's at one o two,
Speaker 3: so I thought one hundred was great. I'm going with
Speaker 3: Glibir Tours. He's been on a just a freaking tear
Speaker 3: lately and he sits at ninety eight home runs, so
Speaker 3: he could.
Speaker 2: Also cross it. That'd be great for me. And I'm
Speaker 2: also at forty with you, so are you?
Speaker 1: Are we both at forty? Look at us?
Speaker 2: Yes we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're both at forty. I'm feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, of course, is Joe's call. I have no
Speaker 1: idea how Mayor's but Mayor probably put it into the
Speaker 1: or maybe you've given up since there's no way to
Speaker 1: get up there, but if so, probably put it into
Speaker 1: the home run room. On Twitter at the Wonky Penguin, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I want to say I have thoroughly enjoyed doing shows
Speaker 1: with you this year, and I've loved having you move
Speaker 1: into the mayor role of doing some of the sheets.
Speaker 1: I think you and I work very well in that way.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the future holds for me
Speaker 1: with Fantasy Pros and leading off or somehow there was more,
Speaker 1: but I hope that it does and they do, and
Speaker 1: I hope I get to do more shows with you
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 3: And I would say that this is the first time
Speaker 3: I've ever done a podcast period, not like with you period,
Speaker 3: and you have been a fantastic host and really kind
Speaker 3: of got me very comfortable, and I feel like our
Speaker 3: report has gotten better every week, at least according to
Speaker 3: my mother, who messages me immediately following the show to
Speaker 3: tell me that you guys just have really good report.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we do, so thank you very much for
Speaker 3: miss Wonky.
Speaker 1: Hello, mother Wonky. I appreciate that and I completely agree
Speaker 1: with you. Follow Kelly on Twitter at the Wonky Penguin.
Speaker 1: Make sure you're in the discord. You'll see Kelly in
Speaker 1: there help and do all this stuff, so make sure.
Speaker 1: And also you know you've been doing the Fantasy hockey
Speaker 1: I believe over on fan tracks what else is going on?
Speaker 3: I do Fantasy Naska over there, but again I'm mostly
Speaker 3: doing editing and just tons and I do so many
Speaker 3: pictures it's kind of crazy. So yeah, that's what I'm
Speaker 3: hours and hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Kelly's a rock star. Like I said, a
Speaker 1: lot of the great stuff on these sheets are thanks
Speaker 1: to her for putting those together. And I know you
Speaker 1: guys have enjoyed it. We've enjoyed the Wonky bonus and technically,
Speaker 1: can I ask her, are you gonna do one last
Speaker 1: Wonky bonus on the discord on Wednesday? Which I believe
Speaker 1: is the final day of the baseball season. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna have one more? Does it end with the show here?
Speaker 3: I was thinking I might do one more. Maybe it
Speaker 3: makes just like a short video that offers it up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm really kind of going I don't want,
Speaker 3: I never want to walk you Wednesday. Bonus to swing
Speaker 3: it significantly, so I'll see where everything lies on the
Speaker 3: final day. But yeah, I mean I was kind of
Speaker 3: planning to because why not.
Speaker 2: And also shout out to the Peanuts and Crackerjacks. You
Speaker 2: guys are my favorite people, so it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: You are beloved. You are beloved in the crew for
Speaker 1: the Peanuts and the Cracker Jacks. All right, friends, you
Speaker 1: guys know the drill. Go, get those lineups set, get
Speaker 1: your players in, win some championships, and report back. Please
Speaker 1: let us know of all the success. Tomorrow. Bubba is
Speaker 1: back in the house for Bubba's last episode, and we
Speaker 1: will be right here on leading off. Not a great
Speaker 1: performance with my bad analogy earlier, but you know, I
Speaker 1: think I got through it. I don't have a line
Speaker 1: here from doctor Glenn, but I think this is a
Speaker 1: five inninger. We gave up some earned runs, but I
Speaker 1: think we pulled the win out at the end Kelly
Speaker 1: with the save. Friend does have a fantastic day and
Speaker 1: we will talk to you again next time soon. Are
Speaker 1: here leading off, Bye bye bye everybody.