WEBVTT - Draft Show: Ready For A Crazy First Round? 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.160 Did. He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.200 are war room for in center news and draft analysis 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.640 from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:20.119 Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliot and now your 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.040 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well, 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.760 it is the Draft Show, forty five days until the 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.040 official NFL Draft Here at in Arlington at the Stadium 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.240 at at and T. You've got Brian broad Us, Dane Brugler, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:41.680 David Hellman, Kent Garrison, Executive producing. Gentlemen, have you recovered 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:43.640 from all the things that happened at the end of 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.680 the week, all those trades of the activity. John Dorsey, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.120 my good buddy, Are good buddy? Making a lot of moves? 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.920 Cleveland Browns no jumping around the short answers, no about 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.640 Richard Sherman and released things like that a lot and 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.880 what and we're just getting starts in domin Conzuo, domi 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.479 con sue. How much money was that, Dave? How much 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.840 dead monime was that? Twenty two million? That's that the 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.840 Internet tells me twenty two million and dead cap on 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.959 a player. Think about that? Those you know now if 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.880 you're if you're a Cowboy fan, and we've all we've 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.000 all been dealing with that right now, we've all been 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:23.720 dealing with the Oh, that's why you want to talk 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.160 about suit and tell everybody to back up off you. No, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.600 I you know what I just want. I just want 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.560 to remind everybody. Let me draft. That's why we do 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.360 the draft. Let me draft. You know, I got ten picks, 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.720 Let me draft. Let me give give me a chance, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.320 you know, And you know what, I'm gonna use those 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.800 ten picks, and I might I might end up with 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.600 six guys. I might name was seven guys if you're lucky. Yeah, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.040 But I'm just saying guys that I want. Got I mean, 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.760 and I understand DOMI kin soon as Time was a 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.480 great player. I get it. Oh he's still a great player. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.240 That's not the question ye expense of than he's worth. Yeah, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.040 but that's what you get into that, you know, that's 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.960 what the giants get into. And I tweeted that, yes 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.519 about Olivier Vernon, I think they're happy given him eighty 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.760 million dollars now, but don't you think there's a middle 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.359 ground between giving somebody one hundred million dollars and making Yeah, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.440 I'm just saying expectations. You know, everybody goes out cheerleads 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.680 these huge moves if you're just a little bit smarter. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.680 I'll give the Eagles credit. They were a little bit 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.200 smarter than everybody last year with their moves worked out 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.679 good for him. The women's a seven and nine team 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.680 that hasn't been drafting very well. Yeah, that ten of 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.600 their twenty two starters were signing free agency or trades, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.600 I give you credit for that. The winner of the 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.440 off season is rarely the winner of the regular season, 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.440 that's right. But the postseason, Yeah, you could argue that 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.200 the Eagles were both last year, just saying you could 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.800 make that in hindsight, Well, sure, but they made I'm 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.160 saying like, once the offseason happens, we won't be you know, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.160 whoever wins this year's offseason, they probably won't win in 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.400 the regular season. You're okay with what Cleveland's done. I 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.760 love what Cleveland's doing. St Yeah, I think giving up 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.639 a third sixty five for Tyrod Taylor's a little higher 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.480 than maybe most expected. But when plenty of other teams 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.640 were making calls and making offers, that's what you have 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.000 to do, which Yeah, And for the record, I agree 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.919 with you for the most part about what you're saying. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.519 And I get just as frustrated as anybody about the 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.760 calls to sign people to one hundred million dollar contracts 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.639 or sixty million dollar contracts. But I do think there 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.720 is a middle ground and the Browns. The one move 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.320 really stood out to me that the Browns pulled off 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.720 during that entire snowstorm of trades where I was like, yeah, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.720 that's the type of thing you should be trying to do. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.280 And it was the Danny Shelton deal. They gave up 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.520 a third and gain a fifth and send Danny Shelton 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.960 to New England and New England gets you know, they 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.600 get I'm sorry, sorry, excuse me. New England gave up 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.720 a third. Overall, Yeah, they don't see him in their 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.680 future plans. He hasn't lived up to it. He goes 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.120 to New England and can play on a more talented 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.640 roster and have a chance to make an impact. The 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.200 Browns gets something for him, and it's a lot I mean, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.160 different sort of player, but it reminds me a lot 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.440 of the Timmy Jernigan deal that the Eagles made last 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.920 year scheme is a big part of it too. They 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.400 drafted him to be the nose in their three four 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.120 and now they're running a four to three. He's not 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.680 a factor and yeah, and he's not. He doesn't have 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.000 those three technique trades. He's also going into the final 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.840 year of his deal. Yeah, so I mean he could 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.039 play the one and be a one down player, maybe 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.200 a two down player. But that's why are you going 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.000 to pay a guy in the final year of his 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.560 deal that kind of money when you could trade him 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.320 throwing a fifth round regain a third next year. Yeah, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.320 it's a great move by Dorsey. I would consider doing 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.200 that deal. And I get maybe he doesn't fit the 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.920 scheme here, but upgrading, you know, you talk about upgrading 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.520 the talent level at one technique. Maybe having a guy 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.159 that can do that free up people like Malie Collins 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.560 and David Irving to rush the passer. I'd at least 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.520 consider it. That's the type of thing I'm looking for. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.720 I'm not out looking to sign people to eighty million 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.040 dollar deals, but they are creative ways you can upgrade 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.719 the talent on your ros. So the route you would 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.000 go if I'm listening to you correctly, you would have 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.560 done the Shelton deal for eighty one? Would you have 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.359 done that? Would you have done the Shelton deal for 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.279 the Cowboys at eighty one? If I get a fifth 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.680 back in return? Sure, because we've been sitting here talking 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.640 about how they needed defensive tackle. Anyway, I would, just 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.240 because I've Danny Shelton's not a very good player. He's 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.240 an okay player, and I don't know I want more 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.080 for Plus the fact that he's in a one year deal. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.760 I'm not picking up his fifth year option. I doubt 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.760 the Patriots will maybe maybe who knows. For a one 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.359 year rental, I'm not giving up a third. But I 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.280 get where you're coming from. Would would you let me 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:43.839 ask you this? And I'm not supposed to talk about 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.760 that guy and that's Sky and Seattle schle We've talked 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.920 about him enough anyway. Okay, but that's I'm saying eighty one? 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.159 Would you give a one for the rental? Yeah? Absolutely? Okay, Yeah, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.120 so you're just talking about the level of player. Yeah, sure, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.280 And I'm really I'm mainly using Shelton as an example 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.360 because that's who got traded over the weekend. But to 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.120 your point, you got ten picks. Yeah, they're not all 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.440 going to make the team, so you don't need to 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.160 clutch them that type. Well, let me ask you this, 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.600 and they're not gonna pick ten players. I know that. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.719 But with the with the with what you see in 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.800 this draft, you're just you're you're are you like me, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.560 am I being over excited about drafting guys? No, drafting 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.839 is wholesale. Free agency's retail. Yeah, you know you are drafting, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.479 you get players for a low dollar amount. You're getting 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.279 guys that you can control. With free agency, you're bidding, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.960 you're throwing money out there, and you're you're over paying guys. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.640 And free agency a lot of people think that it's 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.760 a reward for what they've done. No, free agency is 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.360 you're paying for what they're going to do. And that's 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.880 the hardest thing in football is to forecast what twenty 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.200 eight year old guys are going to do for four 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.479 years into their thirties. And so it's it's just a 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.599 tough thing to do in free agency. So if you 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.640 can avoid it, and most of the good teams they 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.719 avoid the big money deals they resigned their own, but 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.000 then they you know, maybe they might make a splash 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.800 here or there, But for the most part they avoid 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.640 those big money deals, which you know, just for the record, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.080 that's fine with me and that I don't expect the 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.440 Cowboys to get into any crazy bidding wars, nor do 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.400 I think they should. But I do think there are 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.960 creative and aggressive steps you can take to improve your team, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.680 and free agency haven't hasn't even opened, and we've seen that. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:25.040 And honestly, with the exception of maybe giving up Pick 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.600 sixty five for Tyrod Taylor, I don't think any of 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.760 these prices have been outrageous. I mean, Jervis Landry was 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.120 cost a fourth and a seventh. Richard Sherman's deal is 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.600 so incentive, Lad and it's ridiculous, which I never understood. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.080 Why why are you clamoring for Richard Sherman to come 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.040 to Dallas? That doesn't make sense to me, but should 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.240 have gone to visit more teams, Richard Sherman. That's actually 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.880 not to plug somebody else's work. But Peter King had 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.800 a really good story today about how you know he 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.680 met with them and he kind of you know, he 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.840 knew his families there well, not only but Amford kid, 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.520 he's straight up siding he was like, if I leave 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.960 the office, if I leave this office, the Niners probably 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.680 pull at least a couple of the things in this 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.640 deal off the table, and maybe I don't get it 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.680 back where it was, and I don't know what anybody else. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.080 So it's a tricky it's a tricky thing. But it's 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.400 fascinating to see the steps teams are taking to improve 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.120 their team short of just handing out massive contracts. I mean, 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.280 this feels like a new age. You saw it a 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.800 little bit last year, but the amount of trades and 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.120 more willingness to use picks to improve your team, I 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.640 think it's really interesting, and I think it's a very 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.800 creative way to improve your roster without giving up your 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.079 real draft capital. I mean, did a single first round 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.000 pick change hands this weekend? No? No, yeah, exactly. So 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.880 I don't know. I just think it's interesting. You need 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:43.079 Minnesota to sign that quarterback, don't you. That's a lot 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.160 of teams are hoping because if you talk about going 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.120 up this the top of this draft is going to 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.640 be crazy. Yeah. If Cousins signs at Minnesota, the ripple 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.160 effect that I'll have in the top five of this 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.960 draft is going to be there's going to be an 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.200 impact because Yeah, I tweeted this over the weekend and 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.320 a lot of dielog with a lot of people about it, 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.000 and it's if Cousins goes to Minnesota, then you're looking 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.760 at Denver and New York Jets, two quarterback desper teams. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.200 Absolutely fIF and sixth good. Jets are really desperate. Two 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.520 absolutely good chance they trade up into the top three 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.480 to get their quarterback. And if that happens, you know, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.000 because if you're the Jets, you're trying to get a 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.280 head of Denver. Buffalo with twenty one and twenty two, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.880 they're just traded Tyrod Taylor. They're looking to trade up 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.000 for their quarterback. It's fifteen eighty on the points if 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.120 you want to go. If you're Buffalo, you've got fifteen 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.080 eighty sitting there at twenty one and twenty two. That 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.959 gets you to Tampa at seven. It might not be enough. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.199 May have thrown a second to get higher. Yeah, Cleveland 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.400 them getting Tyrod Taylor tells me they're going quarterback at one. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.600 I know that's contrary to when a lot of people believe, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.360 but you're saying that's what I believe. He's the bridge 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.120 to whoever, they whatever quarterback they like the best at one, two, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.640 and three. If I'm the Browns, if I'm some of 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.520 these other teams, I'm hoping we see Cousins of Minnesota 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.080 because that means good chance Denver, New York Jets, whoever 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.400 trade up to the Giants number two, who we talked 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.400 about this before, they need some more draft picks. Getleman 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.040 wants to play around with some more draft picks unless 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.840 they've fall in love with a Saquon Barkley. Yeah, Giants. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.120 Let's let's go back and talk about what the Giants did. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.360 They made a trade for alec ogletreet line back from 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.719 the Rams. It feels like a lifetime ago. That cost 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.480 him a four and a six. That leaves the Giants 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:32.480 with five picks in the in the draft. I just 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.320 don't see Gettleman's He's a scouted heart, he wants picks, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.480 and if he wants picks, don't needs to move back 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.920 to the fifth or sixth pick. Sure you're not bailing. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.160 I mean you're still gonna get a really good player 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.680 after five or six. Who's likely to bail? First? Guys, 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:51.760 Jets are assuming the Giants are Colts Bible bail first, 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.319 It just comes down to giants. Do the Giants fall 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.199 in love with a player? You know? Did they fall 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.640 in love with one of these quarterbacks to be the future? 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.240 Did they fall in love with Saquon Barkley? Do they 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.960 fall in love Bradley? Chup? Is there a player? I'd 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.080 be surprised at that, but sure throw them in there. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.439 It just seems like something Gettleman would want to do. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.240 What take a lineman, no, trade out of that pick 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.400 and get picks like, oh no, but That's what I'm saying. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.360 Which which one of those guys, those general managers, Gettleman 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.360 or I think they both like our guy, our guy 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.280 bail it. You know, maybe they both came bails. Yeah, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.360 oh yeah, maybe it's very possible that both they both 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.199 have both trades happen because you look at again, Arizona 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.600 at fifteen and Buffalo at twenty one and twenty two. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.360 Let's just say that the Jets trade up to two, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.000 which I don't know the whole New York, New York 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.960 dynamics they would do that trade. But let's just hypothetical. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.960 Say they do that at number and you're Denver at five. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.800 All of a sudden quarterbacks go one two, Kirk, you 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.560 don't have Kirk cousins. Maybe you signed case Keenum and 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.400 you know that's your short gap, short term option. Okay, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.040 are you going to sit there in five and hope 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:56.760 your quarterback falls to you? Or do you need to 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.240 go up to three and to prevent a Buffalo, to 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.800 prevent an Arizona or another team to trade up and 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.040 get that quarterback. If you're Denver, I'm not gonna just 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.959 cross my fingers the quarterback falls to what if Alan's 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.480 the quarterback? Very true, possible. If Alan's the quarterback, do 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.040 they just sit? If that's no, if that's your guy, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.160 if that's their guy, If that's your guy, you go 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.400 get them. Okay. I think it's like your attitude. By 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.320 the way, it's interesting to uh, you know, it's almost 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.040 like a foregone conclusion. People think that Buffalo is going 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.600 to use twenty one, twenty two, and now sixty five 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.280 to go get their quarterback, but might have to getting 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.920 rid of basically all your impact picks in one draft 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.680 to take a chance on a guy. Yeah, but they're 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.040 a playoff team last year. Yeah, I know, you you know, 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.920 I mean it's a good point. Well, it's got That's 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.480 where it is. That's where I sit there, and I'm thinking, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.400 let everybody else go crazy in the top ten and 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.360 let Lamar Jackson fall to me at at least like eighteen, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.360 instead of me having to jump up to like what 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.520 if Lamar Jackson goes twelve or you know, I mean, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.280 you just these quarterbacks. That's what make this draft, I think, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.000 is it's funny because I think this is the weakest 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.720 first round I've ever covered, at least the weakest one 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.640 since probably twenty thirteen. Yeah, but it's going to be 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.920 the most interesting. See, I'm sitting there. If I'm the Cowboys, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.360 I'm going up. Yeah, I'm going up. Let's do it, 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.920 you know, and and and yeah, let's let's let's let's 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.000 play in this game. Let's go you know, I mean exactly, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.480 let's let's see what's happening up there. I mean, I'm 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.800 I'm gonna get in the middle of this, you know, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:30.640 And I'll tell you what I'm gonna get in the 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.280 middle of it, thinking that maybe somebody, somebody else might 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.920 be there that somebody wants again. You know, you could, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.040 but you got ten picks. I mean, you've given up 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:45.360 on free agency in a way. You've allowed guys to 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.320 walk last year to give you the picks necessary to 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.240 go move around and get some players. We've all kind 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.880 of talked about some of these guys. We've talked about receiver, 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.320 We've talked about safety, we've talked about defensive lineman, talked 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.640 about line ackers. What if, in fact, you're sitting there 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.559 at you know you and you you find a way, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.560 you find a way to get to Miami at eleven 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.680 or anybody, Well, no, no no, no, no no, you you go 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.240 up to get put a name one single player. You're 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.840 not going up for anybody. Well, you gave me fifty 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.160 fifty on Ridley to be there at nineteen. Okay, what 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.800 if you do something with Dez Bryant. What if all 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.560 of a sudden that what have a sudden the meeting 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.000 all that doesn't go well, then he just said they say, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.760 you know we're gonna move on. You better go get 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.920 a receiver, right, bring you up some money? Oh yeah, 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.880 if if des isn't on this team, you know, and 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.760 I'm getting I'm not I'm just I'm not saying I'm 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.920 just I'm just putting it out there though, that you 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.800 really like Ridley. I like Ridley. I think you like Ridley. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.280 It Stephen Jones told us that the combine. You know, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.320 if if they don't get Hitchings between Hitchins and Wilbur, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.440 they need two linebackers. So I am if I'm going up, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.320 I love Ridley. I do love Ridley. But if I'm 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.560 going up, I'm looking at James and I'm looking at 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.000 Roquan Smith. Those are the two guys I'm looking. I agree, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.560 I agree, that's where I'm going up. To finish that, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.160 I was just gonna say, you know, if they let 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.000 go of Dads, they would add a receiver and free 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.120 agency and still draft one. I think that's my that 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.880 makes sense. But those are the two talents that I 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.560 would really be willing to You could maybe throw Edmonds 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.160 in there, but I kind of get a vibe like 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.240 maybe they don't love they I don't know that they 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.200 would do that for Edmonds. That's just a guess on 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.400 my part. Yeah, Edmonds maybe the segment. He kind of 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.320 fits into what I mean, what they're trying to do linebacker, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.520 aren't he It's the appeal of Edmonds is he can 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.360 do whatever you want. Yeah, he could play any linebacker position. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.040 The only thing is again Virginia check Edmonds, who were talking. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.480 He's nineteen years old and right you're drafting him for 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:41.840 what he's going to be down the road, not for 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.680 what he is right now. I mean, he's not a 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.240 great player right now. He isn't. Yeah, he's a good 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.840 player right now. He's okay, but he still has plenty 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.280 of room where he needs to get better. Long arms, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.000 has no idea to use him Yeah, still you know, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.800 figuring out how to key and diagnose. I mean, he 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.480 does a lot of things well, but you're rafting him 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.480 in the top fifteen for what he's going to be 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.400 down the road, and I'm not sure that fits this 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.120 team what they need right now. And you don't want 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.840 to be too short sighted, but at the same time, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.600 you want to win it in this upcoming season and 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.840 you don't want to necessarily put all your chips on 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.640 a guy that you're player based on potential. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.560 who else? Okay, just what you're talking about then? Real quick? 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.280 Who else in the top fifteen are you talking about 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.960 like that? Just James and Roquan Smith exactly, Hughes, No, no, no, no, no, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.320 What players are you talking about that are like, oh, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.760 he's a project, Brian. He doesn't how how to use 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.440 his hands. He doesn't, you know, give me some of 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.720 Marcus da Davenport. Yeah, Marcus Davenport and Tremainde Edmunds are 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:47.080 the two that have great potential. Josh Allen. That's why 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.880 you consider him top fifteen. But there's a little bit 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.840 of a there's bus a bigger bus factor there because 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:58.280 it's more based on potential than anything else. So you 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.840 don't want me to go get that receiver, then it 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.960 fifteen at eleven or I don't mean I don't believe 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.040 you have to. Yeah, I'd be shocked if you have 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.160 to go up. I've been driving that Kelvin Ridley bus. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.760 Oh you have. But I'm not trading up to eleven 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.000 to get him just because I well, first of all, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.320 he's not that high on my draft board, and fifteen. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:20.879 I would consider giving up a third to go to 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.960 fifteen to get him. I would consider it. I'm not 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.480 forfeiting a pick to get a receiver. Wait a minute, Dave, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.680 we got ten of them. But still those those first 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.919 three rounds specifically are so big. I love them. So 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.639 we don't play in free agency. We don't The thing that. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.000 Why can't we take those picks and go get guys? 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.240 Why can't you get a receiver somewhere else in the draft? 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.080 Like I said, I think it's fifty fifty. He's there 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.400 at nineteen and so that makes me think you're gonna 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.480 sit there. It sound like I'm gonna sit Yeah. If 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.760 I'm trading up, it's for a guy that I know, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.720 beyond a shadow of a doubt, won't last to my pick. Right, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.560 And I don't why we keep going back to a 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.600 rope and ask you this same You feel like Edmonds 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.640 with all the things you said about him, will last 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.440 to nineteen. No, the potential is too great. I don't 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.320 think he'll fall off, which that's why that's why I 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.119 threw him in the conversation in the first place. I 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.679 just don't know how they feel about him. Yeah, you know, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:15.720 I'm taking these picks. I'm going for I'm going for something. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.120 All these names we talked about, I'm gonna go get 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.960 me somebody. I'm gonna go get me something. He helped 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.200 his football today. Who do you want the most? I 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.879 want one name? Smith? All right? Yeah, I want Smith. 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.400 Are we not thinking of somebody that fits this profile? 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.040 Other than the three we've already thrown out, maybe four 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:39.760 if you include Ridley at trade up option. Yeah, I 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.399 don't think they I mean they don't need a corner. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.280 I mean, Denzel Ward's Austin, but I don't think they're 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.119 gonna do that. Everybody thinks his team needs corners. I 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.040 don't think it does. That's that's the Sherman talk never 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.480 made sense to me. I was like, I'm not saying 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.440 any of the guys same, Tremaine Johnson, I don't, Yeah, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.520 go get me. What about what about Minca Fitzpatrick falls 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.320 a little bit? If he's there at nine playm at safety? Yeah, 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.400 I've I've got him listed as I've I think I've 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.240 got him on my board. Is that one? No, I've 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.680 actually got as a corner. My bad, I'm as a corner. Two. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.760 You've been telling me for like three weeks you think 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.760 he's going forward to Cleveland. So okay, And but let's 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.800 say these quarterbacks they mess up the top. You know, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.760 three picks Chubb is there for the Browns of four. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.439 I think that's the direction doors he would go. You 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:24.520 take the pass rusher. All of a sudden, you have 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.080 a situation where Minka Fitzpatrick. You know, he could slip 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.080 a little bit if he's there. Not to mention, it 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.840 wouldn't be a complete surprise if Derwin James goes ahead 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.840