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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well,

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Speaker 1: it is the Draft Show, forty five days until the

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Speaker 1: official NFL Draft Here at in Arlington at the Stadium

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Speaker 1: at at and T. You've got Brian broad Us, Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, Kent Garrison, Executive producing. Gentlemen, have you recovered

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Speaker 1: from all the things that happened at the end of

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Speaker 1: the week, all those trades of the activity. John Dorsey,

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Speaker 1: my good buddy, Are good buddy? Making a lot of moves?

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns no jumping around the short answers, no about

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and released things like that a lot and

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Speaker 1: what and we're just getting starts in domin Conzuo, domi

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Speaker 1: con sue. How much money was that, Dave? How much

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Speaker 1: dead monime was that? Twenty two million? That's that the

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Speaker 1: Internet tells me twenty two million and dead cap on

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Speaker 1: a player. Think about that? Those you know now if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're a Cowboy fan, and we've all we've

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Speaker 1: all been dealing with that right now, we've all been

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Speaker 1: dealing with the Oh, that's why you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about suit and tell everybody to back up off you. No,

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Speaker 1: I you know what I just want. I just want

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Speaker 1: to remind everybody. Let me draft. That's why we do

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Speaker 1: the draft. Let me draft. You know, I got ten picks,

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Speaker 1: Let me draft. Let me give give me a chance,

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Speaker 1: you know, And you know what, I'm gonna use those

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Speaker 1: ten picks, and I might I might end up with

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Speaker 1: six guys. I might name was seven guys if you're lucky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying guys that I want. Got I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I understand DOMI kin soon as Time was a

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Speaker 1: great player. I get it. Oh he's still a great player.

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Speaker 1: That's not the question ye expense of than he's worth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's what you get into that, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what the giants get into. And I tweeted that, yes

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Speaker 1: about Olivier Vernon, I think they're happy given him eighty

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Speaker 1: million dollars now, but don't you think there's a middle

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Speaker 1: ground between giving somebody one hundred million dollars and making Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying expectations. You know, everybody goes out cheerleads

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Speaker 1: these huge moves if you're just a little bit smarter.

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Speaker 1: I'll give the Eagles credit. They were a little bit

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Speaker 1: smarter than everybody last year with their moves worked out

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Speaker 1: good for him. The women's a seven and nine team

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Speaker 1: that hasn't been drafting very well. Yeah, that ten of

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Speaker 1: their twenty two starters were signing free agency or trades,

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Speaker 1: I give you credit for that. The winner of the

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Speaker 1: off season is rarely the winner of the regular season,

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Speaker 1: that's right. But the postseason, Yeah, you could argue that

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Speaker 1: the Eagles were both last year, just saying you could

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Speaker 1: make that in hindsight, Well, sure, but they made I'm

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Speaker 1: saying like, once the offseason happens, we won't be you know,

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Speaker 1: whoever wins this year's offseason, they probably won't win in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. You're okay with what Cleveland's done. I

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Speaker 1: love what Cleveland's doing. St Yeah, I think giving up

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Speaker 1: than maybe most expected. But when plenty of other teams

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Speaker 1: And I get just as frustrated as anybody about the

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Speaker 1: or sixty million dollar contracts. But I do think there

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Speaker 1: is a middle ground and the Browns. The one move

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Speaker 1: And it was the Danny Shelton deal. They gave up

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Speaker 1: I'm not out looking to sign people to eighty million

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Speaker 1: you're paying for what they're going to do. And that's

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Speaker 1: the hardest thing in football is to forecast what twenty

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Speaker 1: have gone to visit more teams, Richard Sherman. That's actually

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Speaker 1: not to plug somebody else's work. But Peter King had

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Speaker 1: May have thrown a second to get higher. Yeah, Cleveland

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Speaker 1: but you got ten picks. I mean, you've given up

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Speaker 1: go move around and get some players. We've all kind

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Speaker 1: not going up for anybody. Well, you gave me fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty on Ridley to be there at nineteen. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: you don't want to necessarily put all your chips on

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Speaker 1: who else? Okay, just what you're talking about then? Real quick?

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Speaker 1: Who else in the top fifteen are you talking about

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Speaker 1: like that? Just James and Roquan Smith exactly, Hughes, No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: What players are you talking about that are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Marcus da Davenport. Yeah, Marcus Davenport and Tremainde Edmunds are

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Speaker 1: don't want me to go get that receiver, then it

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Speaker 1: we got ten of them. But still those those first

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Speaker 1: Why can't we take those picks and go get guys?

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Speaker 1: Why can't you get a receiver somewhere else in the draft?

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Speaker 1: And I don't why we keep going back to a

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Speaker 1: to nineteen. No, the potential is too great. I don't

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Speaker 1: just don't know how they feel about him. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: All these names we talked about, I'm gonna go get

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Speaker 1: me somebody. I'm gonna go get me something. He helped

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Speaker 1: want one name? Smith? All right? Yeah, I want Smith.

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Speaker 1: go get me. What about what about Minca Fitzpatrick falls

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Speaker 1: You've been telling me for like three weeks you think

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Speaker 1: he's going forward to Cleveland. So okay, And but let's

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Speaker 1: say these quarterbacks they mess up the top. You know,

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Speaker 1: three picks Chubb is there for the Browns of four.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the direction doors he would go. You

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a complete surprise if Derwin James goes ahead

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Speaker 1: of Minka. No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't at all. They're

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Speaker 1: never thought about him falling that much. Well, there's your

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Speaker 1: we have that's why there's new general managers there. I

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Speaker 1: know he might not have liked Sure as a player. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know that. It seems counterproductive to

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Speaker 1: like add Chubb to Miles Garrett and then you've got

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Speaker 1: this great third pass rusher and you're just like, get

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Speaker 1: rid of him. But if they if you can get

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Speaker 1: something of value, if they were interested in doing that,

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Speaker 1: that would be awfully interesting. I'm saying, if they do

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Speaker 1: go Chub, that's a call on making sure to see

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Speaker 1: what it would take. Sure I would. I would actually

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Speaker 1: call him before the draft. Oh sure, Yeah, I'd call

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Speaker 1: him before the draft and say, listen to hey, if

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Speaker 1: you if you draft, if you somehow draft a defensive

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Speaker 1: What do you want for him? A defensive end high

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Speaker 1: at four? Yeah? Like yeah, so you mean, yeah, say that,

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Speaker 1: but there's only one it would be I know exactly.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to mention the name. You just kind

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Speaker 1: of throw it out there, gotcha. Yeah, it's football. Football

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Speaker 1: people like to say that like it like they could

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Speaker 1: say Zeke, he could say Zeke Elliot, but like, how

441
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Speaker 1: about that runner? Like it's you can't just be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Zeke's pretty good. It's like that runner is

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Speaker 1: pretty good? Set you on fast, the Penn State runner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how about that Penn State runner? Yeah? That's exactly how

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Speaker 1: you h That's exactly how I talk. If somebody called

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Speaker 1: me and said that, I'd be like, yeah, Bradley Chubb,

447
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Speaker 1: he's the only defensive end that's feasible in that spot.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, no, no, but the NC State Uh,

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Speaker 1: I've got everybody on board about going up in this

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dame Burglar, David Helmet, Kent Garrison, Executive Producing.

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank everybody out there who's hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us on a periscope live today. We really

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Speaker 1: do appreciate that. I love to go back and watch

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Speaker 1: the comments that are made, you know, the fans kind

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Speaker 1: We do appreciate that interaction. Maybe I can grab a

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Speaker 1: forth there, David Helmet, Thanks Brian brought us kind of

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Speaker 1: goes back to what we were just talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether you trade up, whether you wait players coming off

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Speaker 1: the board. A couple of questions about this. This one's

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Speaker 1: from Daniel, which he wants to know you're and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about being wiped out before, but a specific situation

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Speaker 1: where it's really like a worst case scenario wiped out

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Speaker 1: and the two players he used as examples, or you

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Speaker 1: know what if you're wiped out and the best two

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Speaker 1: players on your board or Darius Guisson, Lamar Jackson, just

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Speaker 1: players you don't need and don't want to pick, and

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Speaker 1: I'm hopefully trading out right. Sure, for someone that wants

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Speaker 1: one of those two players specific would you take too

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Speaker 1: if you had to draft one between the other? Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. There you go. That's kind of a that's

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Speaker 1: kind of a big picture pick right there. If you

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Speaker 1: did it, wouldn't it mean you have a little bit competition.

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Speaker 1: You have a guy that's probably a pretty highly He's

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Speaker 1: obviously on your board in a good position. Nobody loves

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott more than I do. But if he if

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Speaker 1: it fell that way, and I mean if he fell there,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you could get out of the pick

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Speaker 1: and trade. But if if for some reason you couldn't,

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Speaker 1: I would just say whatever, you're going to do this

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Speaker 1: and builds your wide receiver need right, yeah, wow, hush

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Speaker 1: your mouth. You can't play two quarterbacks at once. You

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Speaker 1: just you let the kid, let him grow. You You

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Speaker 1: put the one that's on a five year deal behind

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Speaker 1: the one that's got two years left on his contract

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Speaker 1: and make moves accordingly. I'd put them on the field,

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Speaker 1: find them ways to get on the field somehow somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, now that what we

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Speaker 1: did from the first segment that we had, are you

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Speaker 1: going to let yourself be wiped out. Well, let myself

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate Daniel's question too. I like the spirit

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Speaker 1: of it, but in the first round, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: let myself be wiped out. I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: genuinely be wiped out. Yeah, you'll, it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: it's you know, plan F. You're gonna have a backup plan.

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Speaker 1: There will be a player there that you feel fine

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Speaker 1: about drafting. Sure they did with Taco last year. We didn't,

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Speaker 1: but that was a twenty eight at nineteen. Yeah, somebody

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Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about, like one of your best

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Speaker 1: second round grades or one of your final remaining first

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Speaker 1: round grades should be there. I mean that's just common sense. So,

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Speaker 1: and especially with you, imagine at least five, if not six,

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Speaker 1: or seven players you don't want will go off the

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Speaker 1: board between the quarterbacks and Barkley. So that's helping you too.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think you can genuinely be wiped out.

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Speaker 1: But that wouldn't stop me from trying to trade up

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Speaker 1: if it fell the way I wanted it, like a

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Speaker 1: guy like DJ Moore, Like I'd be shocked he went

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Speaker 1: ahead of nineteen, But but you got him on your

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Speaker 1: ally third on your board. But if we get wiped out,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have DJ more than I like Will Hernandez

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, but the two names he gave, the

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Speaker 1: two names he gave, I think we got the right guy. Jackson, Yeah, Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just common in that scenario. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying they should draft him, but that would just be

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Speaker 1: common sense. You get a quarterback on a five year deal.

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Speaker 1: Who I mean, you can put him on the field

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Speaker 1: in packages, you could put him, you could steer him.

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Speaker 1: If something happens to Dak, we might be doing the

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Speaker 1: draft show next year talking about a quarterback. Absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: the counter argument to that is, Dak Prescott goes out

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Speaker 1: and has a Pro Bowl season this year. You have options. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, now you have a bargaining chip, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: big time bargaining chip there you go for Dak when

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Speaker 1: you try to resign him, as well as what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do with Lamar. I mean with Dak, you have options. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely So if given those two options, yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: right pick. Burke wants to know, take a guess. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this in the first segment too. He said,

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Speaker 1: how many of their how many of the Cowboys ten

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Speaker 1: picks do you think they'll still have when the draft starts?

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Speaker 1: And how many do you think they'll have used when

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Speaker 1: it's over? So he said, you know, you think they'll

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Speaker 1: do any deals before the draft or how many deals

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Speaker 1: do you think they'll do during the draft? Interesting? I

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Speaker 1: think that they'll go I don't. I think they'll start

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Speaker 1: the draft with the ten and then when they get

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Speaker 1: on and then when when the draft starts, then the

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Speaker 1: phones will start. I know they're gonna lay chum in

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Speaker 1: the water. I know they're gonna lay some chum in

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Speaker 1: the water for before this thing starts. But I don't

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Speaker 1: see them doing a deal where there's going out and

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Speaker 1: giving a fourth round pick for somebody Right now, I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's I think it's gonna be more

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Speaker 1: about Okay, I need to get to I need to

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Speaker 1: get to eleven. I need to get to fifteen. I

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Speaker 1: need to get to you know, sixteen. I need. I

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Speaker 1: need to get somewhere that that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: As the draft roles, we're gonna be talking about it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be here in the room and the next

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Speaker 1: thing I know, I'm gonna look up over here, over

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Speaker 1: across from Dan as he's explained something, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: look down and see Dallas is now on the clock,

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Speaker 1: and that's when we'll know. Yeah, but I think they

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Speaker 1: start with ten and as the days wears, as a

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Speaker 1: day wears on the three days, they're gonna move when

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Speaker 1: they can move well. And yeah, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's fun to think about the first and

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Speaker 1: second round, but don't throw out the possibility of you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna try to get to pick one forty five

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Speaker 1: instead of one seventy one or whatever. Right, random guess

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Speaker 1: how many players are they coming away with undrafted? Eight?

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Speaker 1: I think eight would be the number seven seven, seven

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Speaker 1: or hand that's seven was my first thought. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: see what you're seeing with eight. I bet that what

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Speaker 1: I bet they do two trades, one in the first

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Speaker 1: two days and no one in the first day, one

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Speaker 1: one in the first three rounds, and one on day three.

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Speaker 1: That would be my guess. I think, sen Yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe mixed it. Sense Um. This is a

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Speaker 1: question that we've talked about before, but I wanted some

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Speaker 1: fan perspective on it. Austin, I think like there's a

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Speaker 1: subsect of Cowboys fans that want Harold Landry in the mix.

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Speaker 1: We've said before, I personally don't see it, knowing what

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Speaker 1: we know about what they did last year, but Austin

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Speaker 1: wants to know to seeing t J. Watt's success in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: maybe change that line of thinking. I mean, it's would

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Speaker 1: Harold Landry be a consideration now where maybe he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been even a year ago. What is TG Watt

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Speaker 1: done that you didn't expect? I mean, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, you could argue they didn't expect

633
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Speaker 1: it because otherwise they would have drafted. Yeah, that's what

634
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Actually, it was brought up in that room.

635
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Speaker 1: It was brought up. Yeah, the one side presented to

636
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Speaker 1: the other and the other side didn't think that they

637
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Speaker 1: wanted a project. That's why the group, the group part

638
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Speaker 1: did say a guy who had six saxes and rookies

639
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: a project though, that's what the That's what the one

640
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: side thought. I know, so I maybe I'll be wrong,

641
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: but like I said this on one of the Combine shows,

642
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Speaker 1: I just I don't look at anything Harold Landry brings

643
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Speaker 1: to the table and think that they would draft him

644
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: if they didn't want Watt, right, I mean, I know

645
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: that's a fair assumption. Landry put his hand on the

646
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: ground more often in college, But you're still talking about

647
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: the same type of athlete. Yeah, pen your ears back,

648
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: screamed to the rusher going to have some hiccups versus

649
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: the run a little undersized. Yeah, it doesn't fit the profile. Again,

650
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: we kind of pointed out not too different than the

651
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence in terms of just you know, measurables. But yeah,

652
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like that. That's the dimensions they want.

653
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: The position is a really good football player. We're ensuring

654
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Speaker 1: that he'll be the pick, I mean again, and then

655
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: we'll talk about him in a way and if he

656
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: goes on it plays like Wat, it will be another

657
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: example the Draft Show kind of leading you down that path.

658
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: That was a good question, though, um our friend of

659
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Speaker 1: the show, Tom, this is a report that's that's out there.

660
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Um Brian Price resigns exclusive rights free agent. The one

661
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: Tackle looks says, though he's back for twenty eighteen, does

662
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: that change your view of d tackle as a priority

663
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Speaker 1: or really, you know what you would do in that regard? No,

664
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Speaker 1: I think there's I think there's plenty of good one

665
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: techniques in this draft. I am not letting Brian Price

666
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: deter me he's not getting one of those guys. He's

667
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: not just shutting shutting down the competition. Oh no, no.

668
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: And if you know, if hey, if the more guys

669
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Speaker 1: you can have the better, let him compete. But there's

670
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: too many good one techniques in this draft to sit

671
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: there and say, Brian part Price is going to make

672
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: me not think about these guys. This is a this

673
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: is a they had exclusive rights, they got it done.

674
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. He's coming off a knee. Yeah, yeah,

675
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, so didn't stimond like a guy that was

676
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: sixteen games, you know, appeared in sixteen games last year.

677
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: And sure he's not stopping you from drafting. Not at all, anybody,

678
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Not at all, not at all. I agree with this

679
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: question from b who reminds us that Memphis is Anthony

680
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Miller feels like the forgotten receiver in this draft right now?

681
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that there will be more hype around

682
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: him after his Pro day? He didn't, I mean, he

683
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: didn't do any running at the combine, and he's he

684
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: had the jones fracture in his foot he suffered in

685
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: the bowl game. Uh, he's cleared to work out, so

686
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, health he should be okay the pro days

687
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: not until like April six. Yeah, I mean it's like

688
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: the last pro day. It's like the last two pro days.

689
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think the I mean, it's

690
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: kind of how the draft works. It's, uh, you know,

691
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: whether it's social media driven, fan driven, whatever. Guys get

692
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: aren't talked about as much when they're not on the

693
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: forefront of our computer screens or TV screens, but all

694
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, once they are, oh yeah, you know,

695
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: and he gets propped back up. But Anathew Miller, I've

696
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: said this from the start. He's the top senior broade

697
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: receiver in this draft and a guy that you hope

698
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: is there a fifty for you, but not a guarantee

699
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: by any mean. The good thing for him is though

700
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to work out before the draft,

701
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: and well before the draft, people are sitting down starting

702
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: to set their boards. They'll at least have numbers. How

703
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: many times have we seen guys working out like two days,

704
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: three days, all of a sudden, we don't know who

705
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: is it? Last year that didn't have a time. It

706
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: was somebody that we kept struggling with it. I'm sorry,

707
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean to throw you gut Corey Davis. Corey

708
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: Davis him to do. Yeah, I didn't do much, did Coy.

709
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I think I think you're right about Corey.

710
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: We didn't really have a time. It was real late, right,

711
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's like, but we

712
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: still thought enough of the player where you had to

713
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: take him and all that. I don't I don't think

714
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: Corey Davis didn't anything really like the substantial. So yeah,

715
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: with that being said, yeah, at least he's going to

716
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to work out for teams well before

717
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: the draft that they can have an idea real quick.

718
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, Courtland, Sutton, Equaminius, seeing Brown or they're at

719
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: fifty he had taken I'm taking Miller. I'm gonna rank

720
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: him for you. I'm gonna go Miller, Sutton, Saint Brown.

721
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: That's that's my three foreign five receivers behind Calvin really

722
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: in DJ Moore. So I'm with you, shocking that y'all's

723
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: opinions line up. Yeah, never, he's a better scout than me.

724
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: It really is. There's there's guy, there's guys that there's

725
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: guys I trust doing this, Like serious, I said this

726
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: about Kavanaugh. He Kavanaugh understands receivers for some positions he's

727
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: crazy on, but he understands wide receivers for some reason.

728
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: And I listened to him when he talks about and

729
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: he's driving that Michael Gallop train. He is driving that

730
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Gallop train. But anyway, that's it's what you got to

731
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: do in a room. That's true. Some guys are really

732
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: good at certain positions, and when they say it, you're

733
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, all right, yeah that guy. Yeah, okay, okay.

734
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: You feel a little bit better about what you're doing

735
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: when you line up with somebody who knows what the

736
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: hell they're talking about. Talking about receivers who didn't get

737
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: a chance to work out for before the draft, you

738
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: just hope Dante Pettis doesn't fall that category this year.

739
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: That Washington he didn't get a chance to work out

740
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: of Washingtons pro day over the weekend. Cowboys met with

741
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: him exclusively after the pro day, So just something to

742
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: keep an eye on there. Dealing with an ankle injury

743
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: wasn't at the Senior Bowl didn't work out, the combine

744
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: didn't work at the Pro Day. You just hope he's

745
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: able to get on the field at some point before

746
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the draft, because you know, he's an interesting Day two pick.

747
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what thing though, he's one of my

748
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: favorite ones to watch. I loved watching him play at Washington.

749
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I know, Washingtons kind of get a little bit. You know,

750
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: there's some players they've had that look really good on

751
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: tape and then they get in the league and there

752
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: hadn't been as good. But I mean, he's one of

753
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: those guys that when you I mean he was in

754
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: that mix of those second round receivers when when I

755
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: was initially watching the tape. Speaking of forgotten players, Zach

756
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: wants to know about Arkansas guard Frank rag Now where

757
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: you stack him up see a consideration. I was a

758
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: little disappointed when I watched him and I studied him.

759
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I was expecting better center of guard.

760
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: That's a very legit debate. Yeah, you could argue his

761
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: best tape was a guard. Yeah, I played Alabama. I

762
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: know in that game. I think of watching him at

763
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: Alabama play against Alabama play guard and actually looked a

764
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: little bit better. I kind of I didn't see a

765
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: really good athlete, you know, for in my center. I

766
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: lean my center to be a pretty good athlete if

767
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: I could. It's you know, kind of a close you

768
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: know really, I mean we talked about these the kid

769
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. You know, they get they get yeah,

770
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: Billy prits, they get real close, and they they're trying

771
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: to kind of control and block and kind of get

772
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: thrown around a little bit, you know right now just yeah,

773
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: it's two up and down. It's just yeah, it's not

774
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: as consistent playing. I mean, I when I first saw him,

775
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Okay, there's gonna be a better he's

776
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a better player, he's gonna be one of

777
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: my he's gonna be the top three of my my centers.

778
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: And I really didn't. I mean, all of a sudden,

779
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: I started I started liking guys a lot better. I mean,

780
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: I know you got on me a little bit about

781
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: the kid from UCLA Quisenberry, But I have I have

782
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: like Daniel's Price Quiz and Barry Cole Cole from Michigan

783
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: and then Rag now as my fifth guy. So I yeah,

784
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I think he'll probably play again as I'm saying all

785
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: these negative things about him. He'll play twelve years in

786
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: the league, one of those to be one of those guys. Yeah,

787
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: because there's nothing pretty about the way he plays, all right,

788
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: But one of the main selling points on him is

789
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Speaker 1: guys great in locker room. He's, you know, the mean

790
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: spirited leader, not afraid to get on teammates. I mean,

791
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: the part of the appeal with rag now and one

792
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: of the reasons I think, you know, he has a

793
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: chance to be a top three center in this draft, right,

794
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree. I expected more when I watched

795
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Speaker 1: this tape. Yeah, that's all I got. That's all you

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Speaker 1: the clock. We're back here in the SWBC Morgan Studios,

842
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Speaker 1: Brian brought as Stayed Burglar, David Helm and K Garrison

843
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Speaker 1: Executive producing. I was just looking again at the UH

844
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Speaker 1: the periscope number skin. Thank you for all that uh God,

845
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Speaker 1: periscope wanted to know, uh wanted to know. Brian her

846
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Speaker 1: Nandi's asked this this. He says, if you had to guess,

847
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Speaker 1: when do you think we'll hear about Scandrick or death?

848
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: Just taking a question off the periscope there for our fans,

849
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: so well, I'll let you answer that question soon one

850
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: way or the other. I mean, you know, I think

851
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Speaker 1: those are the those are the two most commonly referenced

852
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Speaker 1: guys when it comes to you know, maybe you know

853
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: roster moves, releasing them, maybe trying to trade them if

854
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: you can get something for um. I don't you think

855
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: a lot sooner than I mean, this thing is not

856
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: going to drag into free agents in three weeks. The

857
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys in recent years have loved to let this stuff

858
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: play out, but I don't I don't think so espe like,

859
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: especially in the case of death. I mean, if you're

860
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: gonna do you're gonna do something with him, you need

861
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: to do it because you need that money to invest

862
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: in other positions. If you're gonna let go of your

863
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: number one receiver, So you know, I don't know, I

864
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: don't know if that means today or tomorrow. Or like

865
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: next week. But I think I said this. We did

866
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: the break last week and I said to Derek, I

867
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: think I think those situations will be resolved by the

868
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: end of March. Yeah, at least Dez like one way

869
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: or the other. They're gonna, you know, they're gonna decide

870
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: to keep him or restructure him or let him go,

871
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do. I think it'll be done

872
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: by the end of the month. There you all right? Goodness, Okay, well,

873
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: let's get into a little tell Me More, David. I'll

874
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: throw it back to you after you take a sip

875
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: of that coffee. I'm gonna be very transparent with y'allum.

876
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: I had I was. I had a long weekend in Austin, Yeah,

877
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: with some friends of mine, my buddies getting married, so

878
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: we did a bachelor trip down there. So the grooms

879
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to know about tell Me More, guys, No,

880
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: they don't. But I just kind of tell me More

881
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: fell between the cracks while in Austin. But no, I mean,

882
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready, all right. But I took fans more than

883
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: say I took fan requests for tell me More got you?

884
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: This week got you? So these are coming from fans

885
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: who wanted to know about specific players go ahead rather

886
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: than myself. I was good about the fans. I have

887
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: no problem with the fans. So we're gonna start off.

888
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: But I am actually really interested in this guy. I've

889
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: heard this name a couple of times, the little brother

890
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: of Kevin White, West Virginia safety Kazir White. Tell me more.

891
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: I'n't sure which little brother you're talking about. There's two

892
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: of them in this draft. Yeah, yeah, a lot of

893
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: little brothers. It's fascinating because all three have taken the

894
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: same path from Lakawana Community College to West Virginia and

895
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: hopefully now that the NFL. But Kaiser is the only

896
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: one that kind of went to defense. So it's Kaiser.

897
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me, not Kazir. Sorry, yeah, Kaiser. I think it's

898
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: Kaiser now that, now that I see that, Yeah, I mean, okay,

899
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: all right, there we go. I think you like him

900
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: more than I do. I feel like I'm missing something

901
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: on him because I'm not a fan, because you don't.

902
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: You don't like physical players that can't cover. Hey, I'll

903
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: tell you what though. That's the thing about it is, though,

904
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: you mean, I'm looking right now through my notes. I

905
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of it. You're right. I mean, I'm

906
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: not gonna say that you're completely right, but I feel

907
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: like that the tackling, the physical part. I thought the

908
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: coverage is I said, you think he lay out to

909
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: make some place, meaning you know that he'll he'll do

910
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: whatever he has to do to make a play. I did.

911
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: And I see where you're talking about this because the

912
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: change of direction was a question for me. And if

913
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: you have a problem with change of direction, generally you

914
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: don't cover very well if you don't have that ability

915
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: to laterally play. But I this is a guy I

916
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys actually are interested in, believe it or not.

917
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: And it's strong safety. Yeah yeah, And again this is

918
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: just whispers you hear down the road. But I'm I'm

919
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: I just kind of think of him as a physical

920
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: player that'll chase, that'll hit, he can stop his the ball,

921
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: carry his tracks. I'm just looking again at my notes,

922
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: But I mean I saw him making plays through the trash,

923
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: react to the ball again, and the coverage aspect of it.

924
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, because again that the change

925
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: of direction stuff is is is something that it drew

926
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: to my attention. Yeah, that's that's the biggest word because

927
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: he played basically linebacker's Yeah, he was that spur defender.

928
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Uh played like our Arizona, our Arizona guy. Yeah, k

929
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: dame krukshenk kkschenk. Yeah. I feel like he can actually

930
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: cover and he tested well to shank and cover. No. Yeah,

931
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: I just worry about him being here. And he's more

932
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: of a tweeterer. He's not a linebacker, and he's I

933
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he's really a true strong safety. So

934
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: when he gets stuck in that middle ground, that that's

935
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: what I worry about. So, um, I don't know. I

936
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: have him. I gave him a four or five. Yeah,

937
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I have I have him the fourth round. Okay, I'm

938
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: not acting like that. He is gonna his measurables are

939
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: he's roughly at he's six o one seven, he's about

940
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: six two to eighteen. He hadn't worked out yet, so

941
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything. Thirty five done the vertical though.

942
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: It's funny with some of these guys when they don't

943
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: work out at the combine, they hire something, usually a

944
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: reason for you're hiding something. It's funny when he did

945
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: the forty, did the straight line stuff, but uh, three cone.

946
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: I'll wait on that. Work on three cone. Yeah exactly.

947
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: This is a guy I've actually seen with my own eyes,

948
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: but I trust y'all's opinions more than my own. But

949
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: tell me more about Indiana linebacker to Gray's scales, go ahead.

950
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: Dane good playeric productive player in the Big Ten. Uh

951
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: didn't have the senior season. I was hoping he would

952
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: because I really liked what he did as a junior,

953
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: But because he had, his upfield production was more impressive

954
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: than in reverse. And that's kind of my big worry

955
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: with him. Is he we know we could get after

956
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback and play down hill. Can he play in reverse?

957
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: Can he you know, cover backs out of the backfield?

958
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: Is he that type of player? I'm not convinced that

959
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: he is. But he had some struggles against Sequon Barkley. Again,

960
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: I think we mentioned that with every you know, Josie Jewel,

961
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: every linebacker. But he's a good player who adds immediate depth.

962
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's a starter, but he's

963
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: at least going to push the starters at some point.

964
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: Watched him play against Penn State Perdue in Michigan State,

965
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: and I thought he was a pretty good tackler, you know,

966
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: but he'll get she struggles when he gets hooked up

967
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: on people too, you know, and that's that's a little

968
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: bit of a problem when he you know, he can

969
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: get a little caught out of position. I thought he

970
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: got bounced some too, which bothered me about him though.

971
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: And I didn't see great quickness, you know, and the

972
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 1: coverage aspect. Again, he's kind of a stiff moving guy

973
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: when you watch him play. So I was thinking, Okay,

974
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: give me a guy if he's going to be a

975
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: tick over six foot two hundred and twenty eight pounds

976
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: or so, give me a guy that's got some some

977
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: of the ability to cover and do things like that.

978
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: But I was kind of feeling like that he was

979
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: more of a down the line guy, day three guy,

980
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: late day three guy, more than a guy that would

981
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: be early in day three. Forty six tackles for loss

982
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: in his career. That's third best in school history. Yeah,

983
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: trying to be the first Indiana linebacker draft since nineteen

984
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: eighty eight. Yeah, I know he could find the ball.

985
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no problem about that. But again, there's

986
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: things there's times when you I just didn't see the

987
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: ball would get to the outside, and he was like

988
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: a step slow getting there. Because do you think it's

989
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: being mental or physical physical? I agree because ball awareness

990
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: he Oh no, he could see it right. I agree

991
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: with you that. Yeah. And I saw him over run

992
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: some plays though too, So I don't know. I just

993
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't as high on him maybe as you were there.

994
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: Oakland corner Sean Smith is another CAP casualty, just signed

995
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: a huge deal like a year or two ago. Yeah,

996
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: I didn't love up to it. Grin's going in there

997
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: and hacking that thing up. Tell me more about South

998
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: Florida receiver Marquez Valdez Scantling. It's an awesome name. It's

999
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: fun to say. It is he I need. I need

1000
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: to go back and do more work on him because

1001
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: of what he did at the Combine. You know. Yeah,

1002
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: he tested really well and was at the Shrine game.

1003
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: He was at I know he he turned some heads. Uh.

1004
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: This is a guy who can give vertical he stretch

1005
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: out the field. Uh. Quentin Flowers loved them. Obviously it's

1006
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: South Florida. He's your They had another one last year.

1007
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: Who was the wide receiver from South Florida last year?

1008
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: Was it Rodney? I didn't know what I had for breakfast? Say,

1009
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: why do you put me on the spot. He's that's

1010
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of similar mold where he's a back end of

1011
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: the roster wide receiver, a guy didn't get vertical down

1012
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: the field. You hope maybe you can settle into like

1013
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: a fourth wide receiver role. Yeah, this is crazy. Crazy

1014
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: numbers kids, six four, two hundred and six pounds long

1015
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: stride er. Yeah, you're gonna four. The electronic was four

1016
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: three seven four four two. So if you take all

1017
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: his numbers with the hand held times and you split him,

1018
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: he's a four three eight guy. Y'all sound like you're

1019
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: describing like great value Bryce Butler, just like Rookie Bright.

1020
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy again, here's Dane. He's right. He did no

1021
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: shuttles or three comp by his own choice. So you're

1022
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of wondering, Okay, he just he's a straight That's

1023
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's a vertical guy. He's a guy

1024
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: that you want down the field, you know, not going

1025
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: to help you out as much underneath. Let him stretch

1026
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: out the field. You hope that maybe he can grow

1027
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: develop into a fourth worde receiver. But the numbers that

1028
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: he put up with the combin is gonna make me

1029
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: go back. I haven't gone back yet. I need to

1030
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: go back to the tape and see anything I'm missing here.

1031
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: And I have him right the first time because those

1032
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: noose numbers were a little better now a little strange though.

1033
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: He's thirty and a half on the vertical, thirty and

1034
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: a half, he's got those long strides. But six four guy, Yeah,

1035
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: that's lower lower body explosion, not something not so much.

1036
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: See those are those are the numbers that all make

1037
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: you just kind of go. I mean, I'm not trying

1038
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: to bag on the guy, but no, we're not. No.

1039
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: But but I'm like, how how much more work do

1040
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: you need to do? No? Not much. I mean I

1041
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: will spend ten minutes just to make sure, Oh, you

1042
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: can trust me. When we walk out of this room,

1043
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: he'll walk upstairs and that first thing he'll do is

1044
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: look at this guy. Probably, but he's I mean, he

1045
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: is kind of what I didn't expect in the run

1046
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: of for three. I didn't either based on what I

1047
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: did not either. So just because of that, I'll go

1048
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: back and watch but not not running the three cone,

1049
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: not the lower body explosion. Yeah that matches up, because

1050
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: again I thought he was a guy a long strider

1051
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: get down the field, but I didn't see four three.

1052
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: But hey, good for him. We've got some aggy listeners.

1053
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm guessing because we've definitely covered our money Watts. He

1054
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: was a senior bowl guy. Yeah, but somebody wanted y'all

1055
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: to tell him more about our money. I love the

1056
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: best line I've heard about a player. When we started

1057
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: this process, when we were talking about a Mony Watts,

1058
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Dame Bruger described him as a sometime player. Yeah. I'm

1059
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: pretty sure we've covered that phrase on this show. It's

1060
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. That's what he is. Sometimes he's

1061
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: really good and sometimes he's not. Sometimes looks great, sometimes

1062
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: looks terrible, and it's just it's hard to get a

1063
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: feel for who he is. Who's the real or Money Watts? Yeah,

1064
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: because you do. You do see him makes some really

1065
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: incredible plays, and then you're like other wines pass and

1066
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: the run. Yeah, but then you're going, then there's other

1067
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: wines where you're going, oh, they can't be him, Yeah,

1068
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: oh it is him. You know. You's like, oh somebody else, somebody,

1069
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: Oh that's somebody else. Yeah, no, no, you do, and

1070
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: then you and then you see the towel in the

1071
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: short socks and all that, and you go, oh, that

1072
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: was him missing tackles, out of position and coverage. Yeah. Yeah.

1073
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: And it's funny because Aggie fans will they'll they'll fight you.

1074
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: Someone will fight you about him though. Oh well sure,

1075
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: but they but they I'll tell you what, Texas fans

1076
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: and Aggie fans have gotten better about their players. They

1077
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: used to be Texas fans, and now you talk about Jefferson,

1078
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: they they're like, yeah, you got him right. I did

1079
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: Austin Radio at the Combine and the guys were like,

1080
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: you got him right. Talk to about Texas fans about

1081
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: the Shawn Elliott and yeah, play on your hands. Yeah,

1082
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: so much Texas fans. Now, you know what I'm not

1083
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna open that cannon.

1084
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: Did they fought you on Connor Williams at all? No?

1085
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: Because I think everyone's perplexed with Connor Williams, you know,

1086
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: because what is he The two and seventeen season was

1087
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: just a wash and do you rely on the twos

1088
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: and sixteen stuff? Is he better tackles? A better guard? There?

1089
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is a tough one to figure out. And

1090
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: I think Texas As are included in that mix trying

1091
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: to figure them out. I'll say it. Texas fans are

1092
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: delusional when they know their team is good, but they

1093
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: know their team's not good right now. And Aggie fans

1094
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: are delusional all the time, often than not in my opinion. Sorry, Ken,

1095
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in here yet. Yeah, I know you are

1096
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: to ask you about the can I ask you? Have

1097
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: another one? You can? I ask him one? I got

1098
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: another one. But if you'd rather go somewhere else, you

1099
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: got u Florida State linebacker Matthew Thomas. I didn't like

1100
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: him at all. Okay, let's not talk about moving on

1101
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: a talk about the Nebraska The Nebraska corner safety Calu Calu. Yeah, yeah,

1102
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: because I watched him the other day and and I

1103
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: looked at shoot and I'm like, man, do you feel

1104
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: like you missed some tackles? Oh? Yeah, you miss some tackles,

1105
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: There's no question. But man, the guy can cover. I mean,

1106
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: he could cover well enough to where I don't know

1107
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: if I play him as a one of those like

1108
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: press corners or do I play that's safety, you know,

1109
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, you watch him play.

1110
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: He's got this. Let's give the full measurement, the full

1111
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: name in all that way, well said the last line

1112
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: of my report on Calueklue. Overall, Clue will be considered

1113
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: a cornerback for press heavy teams, but he also projects

1114
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: as a free safety or a big nickel defender. Yeah,

1115
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: so I think that for yeah, teams that love the press,

1116
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Joshua Calu is a kid's name. Seems that Neska teams

1117
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: that love the press, they'll, yeah, they'll look at him

1118
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: as a corner, no question, because it was a length

1119
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: because he'll go up and be physical with a line

1120
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. But for teams that aren't strictly pressed man heavy,

1121
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: I like him better as the big nickel, a guy

1122
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: that can stand up and cover. You don't want him

1123
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: necessarily in the box a lot because again an issue

1124
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: for sure, but again he also was a corner most

1125
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: of his career, moved to safety as a senior. I

1126
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: do think he can get better in samara because it's

1127
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: not a physicality issue. It's more of a just coming

1128
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: to balance and you know, sharpening his angles, and I

1129
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: think he can get better in those areas. So it

1130
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: just depends on scheme where you're gonna play him, because

1131
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: I think he has some skill set you can work with.

1132
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: It just depends on the scheme you run a little

1133
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: bit of versatility there. Yeah, I don't disagree with you there,

1134
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean I thought again the coverage

1135
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: aspect of it. When when when he played in tight coverage, Oh,

1136
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: he was really really good. When he plays safety, he

1137
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: plays off the screen. He plays like really deep and

1138
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: you're watching a pedal and he pedals really well. He pedals,

1139
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: he brags, he you know, all those things you want to.

1140
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, there's some safeties that can't do that. And

1141
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: maybe that's the corner training with this kid, right, He's

1142
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: a corner up until the senior year. So maybe that's

1143
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: why he looks so good doing I didn't know the

1144
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: total history about him. Yeah. Well, and he had over

1145
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: two hunder tackles in his career, so I mean, yeah,

1146
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: he missed two hunder tackles. Two In the tape I watched,

1147
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: where are we drafting this guy? I had him in

1148
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: with the last with the second fourth round pick, so exactly,

1149
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: I gotta I'd say he is he's a fourth round player.

1150
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: I just fourth fourth rounds fine for project guy, but

1151
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: like gall, it sound like you're talking about a project

1152
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: guy and a little bit because he can. Is he

1153
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: a project guy when he covers that, I mean when

1154
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: he can come like that. But no, he just he

1155
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: needs to get better in areas, there's no question. But

1156
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: that again, I keep saying tackling, and that was where

1157
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: I just I mean I watched two, three, four times

1158
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: a game where I went, oh, don't miss that one,

1159
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: don't miss it, and he did and so yeah, but

1160
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't disagree with you about the player.

1161
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: I really really don't. Yeah, you doan say anything quick

1162
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: about the Thomas kid. I don't want to interrupt someone's uh,

1163
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: Matthew Thomas. Matthew Thomas. Yea, he was. He's a big

1164
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: five star guy when he came out of high school

1165
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: and he's always been a great athlete. Injury troubles, he

1166
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: had suspended for a stretch. Uh. He led Florida Staton

1167
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: tackles the last two years. But there's there's so much

1168
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: inconsistency there. I mean, I'd take a shot on him

1169
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: late in the draft. Yeah, I'm not going to draft

1170
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: him higher than six or seventh round. Hard he's a

1171
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: good looking guy physically he really is at six two

1172
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: almost sixty three two and thirty two pounds. The problem

1173
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: with it he loses the football. Yeah. A lot of

1174
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: times I'm watching playing, I'm like going there, it goes,

1175
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, and it's not a trade I want in

1176
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: my mind. But I mean he is. He's got a burst.

1177
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: He's a little bit of a side tackler. You know,

1178
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't take guys on square and wrap him up.

1179
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: He's a little bit on the side on there. But

1180
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, I thought that he did some good things

1181
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: as far as blitzer with pressure, cats a ball, skills,

1182
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: some change of direction. Better athlete I think than he

1183
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: is a player. Final line on my report overall, Thomas

1184
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: as a speed and toughness for the NFL, but instincts

1185
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: and playmaking skills are absent from his college tape. Well,

1186
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: that will close us down for the draft show. Hey,

1187
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: by the way, Tommy John says a couple of words

1188
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,880
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1189
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: excellent comfortable underwear and you can get it at Tommy

1190
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: john dot com. Forward slash Cowboys. I appreciate that. Thank you,

1191
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: Tommy John's for all you do. So I want to

1192
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: thank Dane Burglar, David Hellman, King Garrison, I want to

1193
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: thank everybody out there for kind of going along with us.

1194
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: Forty five days until the NFL Draft. We'll have another

1195
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: draft shop for you on Thursday at eleven am Central time,

1196
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: as we always do. Make sure you're watching that tape

1197
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: and we'll see you then