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Speaker 7: You meant like I just you state the case of

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillets Stadium, and it's Jets Week. For whatever that's worth,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's worth a lot. What you wear

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna pull a Fred. I don't care for it.

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Speaker 1: It's like a Fred McMurray.

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Speaker 3: Well I will, I.

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Speaker 9: Will say, out of all of Fred's fall fits, which

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Speaker 9: I guess it's winter now, so I can't use as

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, this is a whole brook.

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Speaker 5: Well, I didn't say it wasn't expensive. It's yours, so

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Speaker 5: I know you don't like this. You paid top dollar.

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Speaker 3: I like this is last on my friend.

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Speaker 1: I like zip ups. I don't like three quarter zips.

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Speaker 1: Things you have to pull over your head.

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Speaker 6: El you wear what you want to wear. Fred, don't

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Speaker 1: I'm going to just do me.

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Speaker 5: Wait, wait hear what he does to me. Wait, but

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Speaker 5: I'm going to get him back.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't listen to em.

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Speaker 9: Because this is also someone who's had multiple people come

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Speaker 9: up to him and say, you wear the same quarter

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Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, First of all, we see each

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Speaker 6: other a lot here. Okay, I only have so much clothes.

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Speaker 6: All these people care enough, like come up.

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Speaker 5: To me and doesn't have time for clothes.

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Speaker 6: You just got a film, like I have this expansive

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Speaker 6: wardrobe like you know Kim Kardashian, and I got like

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Speaker 5: I wear a lot of the same.

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Speaker 3: Did get a new though?

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Speaker 5: Did you get a NEWE know way too much about.

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Speaker 7: Don't you feel like after you get stuff for the holidays, though,

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Speaker 5: I can't wear it that day.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to walk in like especially with somebody

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Speaker 5: I got.

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Speaker 7: I got a pair of black jeans which are just

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Speaker 7: But you know, everywhere I walk around, if you feel

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Speaker 4: They look great, It's fantastic.

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Speaker 5: I have to ask, who are you wearing? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a big week for so so

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Speaker 1: many reasons. One, we're playing the Jets and there's a

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Speaker 7: Every time I brought up snow, Samara is like, no, stop,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually allergic to snow.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if I told you that, but so

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Speaker 7: So we're going to strap you into like a baby.

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Speaker 1: That's not an allergy, that's a phoba.

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Speaker 3: I just hate it. I can't.

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Speaker 4: She just can't even I hear you.

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Speaker 5: But it's gonna make that commuty.

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Speaker 1: It might snow. They don't know like what's going on yet,

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Speaker 6: We all staying at the hotel at Patriot Place for

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Speaker 6: no you'll leave.

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Speaker 1: Your house at four in the morning.

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Speaker 4: I got a spot, and anybody wants to crash.

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Speaker 1: I mean for those of you who have to get

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Speaker 1: It's just getting to the stadium that you better leave early.

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Speaker 4: I hope it doesn't like ruin the atmosphere. That would

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Speaker 7: Know more, because I'm just curious what the atmosphere is

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Speaker 5: Fred, I think it might help the atmosphere because I'm

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Speaker 7: You don't want to get people snowballs in this game.

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Speaker 7: They might be they may be firing.

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Speaker 5: Well, just you know, there's a lot. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on for a meaningless Week eighteen game.

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Speaker 5: For both teams.

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Speaker 6: Yea, all, yeah, well it's not meaningless, but yeah, I

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Speaker 5: So go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, I was gonna move the page to talking about

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Speaker 1: what it transpired on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So oh no, yeah, No, mine is not about Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So before we get into Jets week, we have to

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Speaker 1: People calling it another example of this team playing hard

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Speaker 3: Do we have to talk about it. It's a new year.

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Speaker 3: We have to leave the past in the past.

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Speaker 1: I know. But four, I think I think the game

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't I mean, I don't. I don't really

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Speaker 7: to me, it was just another game of the twenty

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Speaker 7: it's not Mack or Zappy, Like this whole thing is

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Speaker 7: This was a problem top to bottom. And you know,

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Speaker 7: even though Zappy made some plays, like again, it's it's

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Speaker 7: make big plays. So in that sense, I just liked.

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Speaker 7: It was like reassuring, like, Yep, this is what the

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Speaker 4: We know we have to do to change this wasn't.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing, you know, I know a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, if this didn't happen, if that happened, you know,

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Speaker 5: But game.

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Speaker 1: But that's the case for most teams that aren't good

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Speaker 1: the fact that this has been a recurring issue tells

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Speaker 7: But I would say too that the good teams and

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Speaker 7: even some of the bad teams have had times this

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Speaker 7: like the things that we point to with his Patriots teams.

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Speaker 4: Like they almost held on. Like that's what the consolation.

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Speaker 7: I get that the games are always close, but like

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Speaker 4: And you know how many times this year did you.

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Speaker 7: Ever feel like, wow that the Patriots offense really got

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Speaker 7: was a good you know, no, that's it, that's exact.

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Speaker 7: But that's you know, to me, it's just you never

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Speaker 7: like look at the explosion.

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Speaker 1: Not even those.

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Speaker 4: Things mattered this year.

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Speaker 7: They lost to the Giants, they lost to the Colts,

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Speaker 7: They lost to the teams that were undermanned and had

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Speaker 7: a back a court.

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Speaker 1: Team like the Cowboys. That's an inconsistently good team. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have these great games and then they have these

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are consistent, but it's in a bad way, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Derek Assistant. They're consistently bad, and they make the same

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Speaker 1: Guilt some credit to that, you know, Like you know,

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Speaker 5: who the quarterback is. Defensively, general terms, they will play

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Speaker 5: if you can if you have offense. Yep, they have

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Speaker 5: I thought, yes, Josh Allen was terrible in that game. Yes,

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Speaker 6: You have to like the context of of the drops

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Speaker 5: You did, pf F had no none. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: They had him for no turnover worthy plays. We can

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a roller coaster, Paul, you know, you

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Speaker 6: said it perfectly. They get like a couple of big plays.

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Speaker 6: I thought he made a really good throw to Parker

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 6: I told Neil, I was like, you missed an opportunity

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Speaker 1: Now have to put context into there. I want to

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Speaker 6: So, Yeah, but I don't feel like the Bills play

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Speaker 6: Like if the Bills could have scored fifty points on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say yes and no. But I think

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Speaker 5: I thought this game they did stuff that bothered the

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Speaker 6: They have a formula against Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: Like I think they maybe it's the first time that

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Speaker 5: still scored twenty five points and it wasn't turnal related. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but I just think that they.

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Speaker 6: Want They won their fair share of rounds against Josh

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Speaker 1: I mean that's all you're looking for is a few

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Speaker 6: I think they've closed the gap.

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams can't that. A lot of teams

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Speaker 4: My wonder though, was, and I mean this maybe a

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Speaker 7: And are the Patriots they're smart, like you know where

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Speaker 6: So yeah, and that's exactly what the players said after

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Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, I've been saying, and

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Speaker 5: I don't want to get that deep. Okay, it's possible.

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Speaker 6: I just looked at it and thought that datas felt

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Speaker 5: That's what it even looked like on TV. Like I

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Speaker 5: I don't think they did anything to stop Kansas City,

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Speaker 5: again and score points against anybody, but this game, I

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Speaker 5: in check. Now, it has been a very sporadic offense

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Speaker 5: all year. It's been, and I think that Joe Brady

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Speaker 5: They had four turnovers, they' scored two touchdowns two field goals.

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Speaker 1: Off of them.

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Speaker 5: That's the game. Yeah, yeah, that's the game, and you

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Speaker 5: it's the same game that I've seen all year along.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals are playing hard, everybody's playing it.

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Speaker 5: But it's the same game, you know, Like I don't

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Speaker 5: know how close the game was another Now we'll never

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Speaker 5: know what would have happened if they didn't turn it

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Speaker 5: that's what they do and the game was kind of over.

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Speaker 1: That's who they are.

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Speaker 5: Like, when you go into the fourth quarter down two

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Speaker 1: But you have to admit when Rager returned that kickoff,

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Speaker 4: I was laughing.

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Speaker 5: I mean you well laughing.

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Speaker 7: I think you know the comparison of last year's finale

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Speaker 4: From the very first play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I from the press box angle, you could see

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Speaker 5: Did you see that like the next gen he hit

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Speaker 6: Months Yeah, Taylor basket, Yeah, yeah, because.

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Speaker 4: It was got one eye black.

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Speaker 1: But you know, they they returned the kick, then I

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Speaker 5: He got stripsacked on the first Yeah, Okay, here we go. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Just yeah, I stay like yeah, I just I really

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Speaker 5: I don't remember. I don't know anything about Alex Austin.

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Speaker 1: So you're getting killed by somebody.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Mike Reese had like a tweet after his pick, which,

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Speaker 5: don't even know who Alex as like when they got him,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I don't know the draft seven rounds deep.

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Speaker 5: I don't pretend to, and I did not. I was

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Speaker 1: To think that you did, because you call most of

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Speaker 5: I might call him a jag or something like that,

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Speaker 5: I've never heard of, I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 1: It could have been part of a.

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Speaker 5: Different yeah, but I don't it doesn't sound like me anyway.

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Speaker 5: I've been. I've been.

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable, what's use because you remark on it right.

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Speaker 6: Like, I don't know what the right word is because

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Speaker 5: But I've been intrigued.

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Speaker 6: By Alex Austin. I think that he moves really well

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Speaker 6: he's got speed, he's got length, he's got change of direction.

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Speaker 6: He just has to you know, he's got mental Erreage's

443
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Speaker 6: a rookie, he just got he has one or two

444
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,880
Speaker 6: brain farts a game where he's not in the right

445
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,199
Speaker 6: coverage or he's not in the right spot. And the

446
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,959
Speaker 6: big d post to Diggs was was I think on

447
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 6: him that there was no post safety on that play.

448
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Speaker 6: But like those are things that you think with time

449
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 6: and with seasoning, like he could iron out and maybe

450
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Speaker 6: he can be a third corner.

451
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Speaker 5: That's the one Jonathan Jones was like looking immediately looked,

452
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,920
Speaker 5: oh yeah, it looks like someone was looking for a

453
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:05,880
Speaker 5: little help on that. Yeah.

454
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 1: Nothing, nobody calls out teammates. More like secondary play corner.

455
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 5: That's what you gotta do, right, corners, corners and white outs. Yeah,

456
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 5: you know.

457
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Speaker 6: It's It's like it was a post cross and Jalen

458
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 6: Mills was the post safety originally he jumped the crossing route,

459
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 6: which means Alex Austin should be replacing him on the

460
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Speaker 6: post now if it's a long way to go, like,

461
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Speaker 6: I don't know if it would have been a big

462
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Speaker 6: factor anyways, but that was I think what the rotation

463
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 6: was supposed to be. And Jonathan Jones did the did

464
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 6: the old daggers right at Alex Austin after that play.

465
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Speaker 5: Now, that was an example of a play that Josh

466
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Speaker 5: Allen being off, Yeah, because that was that was a touchdown.

467
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Speaker 7: I just didn't know why Mills jumped the cross as

468
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Speaker 7: it felt like map who had I think it.

469
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Speaker 6: Was, Yeah, had decent decent coverage there. Yeah, I don't know.

470
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Speaker 6: I also thought that Kyle Duggars, you know, the fifty

471
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Speaker 6: one yard er to Kincaid like Steve like, come back

472
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Speaker 6: to us please, Like we're calling cover zero on the

473
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Speaker 6: thirty six yard line on first and ten, Like what that? Like,

474
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Speaker 6: I get we all, well, you know Duggar has his

475
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 6: issues in coverage, like we all can see that. But

476
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Speaker 6: that was just a horrible call.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering, like why he ended up where

478
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Speaker 1: he was.

479
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 6: He was in man coverage on Kincaid and there is

480
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 6: no deep help and they blitzed the house on first

481
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Speaker 6: and ten. I don't know why you do that.

482
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Speaker 1: Well, if it works, like oh look good.

483
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Speaker 5: You know they they have what they say.

484
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 6: They have blitzed Josh Allen more this year than they

485
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 6: did the last couple of years, and I think it's

486
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Speaker 6: mostly worked.

487
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Speaker 5: But that one played it. He beat him bad.

488
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Speaker 7: It's interesting because how much do they have to because

489
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 7: they don't have chewed on Like they have to send

490
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 7: guys because they just don't have the horses right now

491
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Speaker 7: outside of you know, bar Moore, maybe Keon White a

492
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 7: little bit, but you know, just to go back to Mapo,

493
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Speaker 7: I thought I thought he looked pretty good. I mean

494
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 7: it seemed like they specifically put him in there. I

495
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 7: didn't look at the splits from the first Bills game.

496
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 7: I know Kincaid had a bunch of production in that game,

497
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Speaker 7: but you know, other than the big catch, I thought,

498
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 7: you know, Mapu did a pretty good job on him.

499
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Speaker 7: And I think that's what I'm seeing from Maphu is

500
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 7: like just that length, Like none of those other safeties

501
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 7: I really ideally suited to cover tight ends like he is.

502
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 7: So I just I wonder if that's something that he's

503
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 7: kind of carving out as a role that they can

504
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Speaker 7: use going forward.

505
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

506
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he played a lot at the second level.

507
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: Of Rodney Harrison type coverage. Guy.

508
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had a good coverage on that.

509
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 4: I couldn't really see.

510
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: Hermont in the end zone.

511
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Speaker 4: There was an incompletion. I think it was to Kincadie.

512
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Speaker 7: He kind of was just running like a like a

513
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 7: little post from inside, but I couldn't tell if it

514
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 7: was just kind of a bad throw. It's like one

515
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 7: of those ones where everything kind of happens in a

516
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 7: jumble you can't see it. But but I thought Mapu

517
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 7: looked pretty good. I know, key On White was two

518
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Speaker 7: people were. I wish I could see it.

519
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Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

520
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: So, you know, I think there's two narratives coming out

521
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Speaker 1: of this game. One, like Paul said, microcosm of the season,

522
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: more of the same, and the other was, Wow, they're

523
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: playing hard to the end and it must be for billt.

524
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not going it's not. I'll give the defense

525
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 6: a lot of credit for what they did. And I'm

526
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Speaker 6: intrigued that the fact that I think they have closed

527
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Speaker 6: the gap against Josh Allen. I mean, in twenty twenty one,

528
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 6: the guy didn't punt right like, he just up and

529
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 6: down the field, up and down the field, and they

530
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 6: look like they were playing a different sport against Buffalo.

531
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Speaker 1: But really though, and not to take anything away from

532
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Speaker 1: the defense though, but is it that they've closed the

533
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: gap with the Bills or the Bills offense just isn't

534
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Speaker 1: what it was.

535
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Speaker 6: I mean, it can be both. I think it can

536
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 6: be both. But either way that's good news for the Patriots.

537
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 6: Oh like, if Josh Allen is going to be this

538
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 6: player instead of the player that he was, you know,

539
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, when I think he was

540
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Speaker 6: really in his peak of his powers with Dable, then

541
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Speaker 6: if I'm a Patriots fan, I'd much rather him be

542
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 6: this guy like guy.

543
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Speaker 1: It's almost like the same thing that's going on in

544
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Speaker 1: the AFC West, you know, except no one can really

545
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: play well enough. But you know, the Chiefs are having

546
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: a hard time with their offense.

547
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the difference is like I think Buffalo

548
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 6: has better supporting cast. Yeah, like I Sefon Diggs, Gabe Davis.

549
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 6: I think Shaker can play that slot role pretty well.

550
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 6: James Cooks are really good running back, Like I think

551
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Speaker 6: that they're offensive issues are that Allen has developed some

552
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 6: bad habits.

553
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 5: He's regressed in a lot of areas. Yeah, Like the

554
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: two fumbles for him, like this is like you go,

555
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 5: you know, it's like four turnovers. Everybody four turn well,

556
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: like the other side is like they got to kick

557
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 5: me turn for a touchdown, which is like a turnover,

558
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 5: you know, And then they turned it over once and

559
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 5: they had two other fumbles. And yes, they didn't lose

560
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 5: the fumbles, so they didn't lead directly to points, but

561
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 5: they were really mindless fumbles, especially the second one which

562
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: could have which could have put them behind in the

563
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Speaker 5: fourth quarter. Yea, you know, like he's short by a yard.

564
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 5: He's a moose. Just go for it on fourth and one.

565
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 5: They're not stopping him on fourth and one. That was

566
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 5: another play where they ran Murray on a third and

567
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 5: third and less than the yard when every quarterback sneak

568
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 5: was getting like five yards in the game, Like, why

569
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Speaker 5: would you turn around and hand it off to Latavious

570
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: Murray in that situation the quarterback sneaks they would get

571
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: in the zon they were getting like nothing. Yeah, they

572
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 5: weren't even close.

573
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Speaker 4: It just feels like all bets are off now with

574
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, we're getting don to the coach.

575
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Speaker 5: That was insane, and you know, you know, I don't

576
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: want to play you aside of you know, I like

577
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, but that was an insane stupid.

578
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 6: I get frustrated watching Josh Allen now because it's it's

579
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 6: Freddy you say this all the time. It's like talent wasted.

580
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 6: Like he needs somebody that's going to coach him and

581
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 6: is gonna rain him in but and have him play

582
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 6: under control. Right now, his eyes, his feet, everything is

583
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 6: just all over the place and you can see that

584
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 6: he's just sped up and moving at a different pace.

585
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Speaker 5: He didn't look good. He didn't look good at that

586
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 5: game at all.

587
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Speaker 7: Chill and I feel like the frustrations like taking him now,

588
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 7: and he's just like, I'm just I got to try

589
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 7: to will us to a super Bowl.

590
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Speaker 5: But I agree with Evan too. I think that they

591
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: have some options. I don't think they have elite talent

592
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 5: other than Diggs, but they have more options than Kansas

593
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 5: City does. Like, I think Shakira in particular, is a

594
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: guy you and I really liked.

595
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: Mike.

596
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 5: I think he's better than the supporting guys for Kansas City. Yeah,

597
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 5: you know, like Kadarius Tony.

598
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Speaker 6: I think Shakira would be a lot better if Allen

599
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 6: was playing more under control.

600
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: But right, they played by Shakida in the game. Real, Yeah, terrible.

601
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Speaker 3: I want to want to go back to what you

602
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: said earlier. I think they're playing for not Bill.

603
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Speaker 9: I think they're playing for themselves and getting their tape

604
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 9: together because a lot of them will be free agents.

605
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's what they're saying.

606
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think I has anything to do with

607
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 9: playing for Bill. I don't think it has anything to do

608
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 9: with that, and more so playing for themselves and their futures.

609
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, and whether it's Bill or not. And I agree

610
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 5: with Tamara because I think a lot of players have

611
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 5: said as much. But I just feel like there can

612
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: be things that are true. I think the Patriots are

613
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 5: continuing to play hard. I haven't seen since early in

614
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 5: the season a lot of examples with now there were

615
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 5: individual players, and we can probably get to that in

616
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: the second hour of the show Brown who have decided

617
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 5: to just flat out quit, you know, So that's a

618
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 5: different thing. But the guys that are on the field,

619
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Speaker 5: and I say this all the time when you tank

620
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 5: quote everybody's tank, tank this tank. That the guys on

621
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 5: the field are playing hard, and this is an example

622
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 5: of it. Fred brought up the Cardinals who go to

623
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 5: Philly and allow a ninety nine yard pick six and

624
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 5: still find a way to win the game playing for nothing. Yeah,

625
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 5: you could certainly make the argument, just like in New England,

626
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: that that win hurt them. But they're playing hard because

627
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: what Tamara said, a lot of the guys that are

628
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 5: out there playing are playing for their career.

629
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Speaker 6: Our boy, Greg Derch, I just don't don't see why.

630
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 6: I just can't really get into that, Like, don't I

631
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 6: don't know why it matters exactly like it exactly. It

632
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 6: just doesn't matter.

633
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think in this case, you know, it takes

634
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: on a little extra because of the situation. Right.

635
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 6: It's but there's it's it's all extreme, right because it's

636
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 6: either they're Brandon staliating it and they give up like

637
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 6: a hundred point and totally, which is.

638
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 5: The one game that I can point to this year

639
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 5: where I saw it, like I visibly saw the team.

640
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 6: Quit, right, or or they're doing what the Patriots are doing,

641
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 6: which is just not being a good football team and losing, right.

642
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 6: And I just don't really know, like there's that's it's

643
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 6: either so okay, great, they're not They're not giving up

644
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 6: sixty points to the Raiders and getting blown out and

645
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 6: losing games like that.

646
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 5: I had one of my friends point out, He's like, well,

647
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 5: you know, like what about the Jets against Cleveland like

648
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: last Thursday, And I'm like, well, the Jets did what

649
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 5: they do and they they've turned the ball over thirty

650
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: two times this year, which is by far the most

651
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: in the league, and they I don't think that they

652
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 5: weren't trying. I just think they're not good. In Cleveland

653
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: is good and Cleveland has been exceptionally good at defense

654
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 5: at home, like, they continued to play. They fell behind

655
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: twenty seven to seven. The game didn't go away after that.

656
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 5: They you know, the Jets, they got down inside the five,

657
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: they went for a fourth down, didn't get it. They

658
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: scored again later. They never really got back in the game,

659
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Speaker 5: but they kept competing in the game. And then he's like, no,

660
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: they just quit. I go, well, did the Patriots quit Sunday?

661
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 5: Because I saw a team that turned the ball over

662
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 5: four times in the first half, Like, is that an

663
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 5: example of minutes? Is that an example of not playing hard?

664
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: I don't think it was. I don't think Bailey's appy

665
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: quit and that's why he threw three picks. I think

666
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 5: it just happened.

667
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 7: I watched some of those bowl games this weekend, and

668
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 7: not the semi fin. To watch the semi fine, but

669
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 7: not talking about the semi final. I was watching it

670
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 7: and going football players are used to playing meaningless games,

671
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 7: like you know, it's part of like college football, like hell, like,

672
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 7: were they trying hard in the bowl game?

673
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Have one of those kind of things.

674
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Georgia Florida State one. There are many.

675
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: Questions on Florida State. You know, Florida State play with

676
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: their scout team. Yeah, yeah, like that was really.

677
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: Is that what Scrap told you?

678
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: No, No, I refused to talk to Scrap.

679
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

680
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you, like, do you remember, like

681
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 5: about a week and a half ago we got some

682
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Speaker 5: some email or a call about USC lit it up

683
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: in their bowl game? Does this make you think differently

684
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: about Calebiams? Kind of? Well, did anybody think definitely about

685
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels Now is the guy that played for LSU

686
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: yesterday lit it up through for like almost like three

687
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety yards and four touchdowns. Oh, by the way,

688
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 5: commonality here LSU has like really good players that were

689
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: catching passes for them, So like, yeah, I mean there's

690
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 5: a lot of talent in some of those schools, now

691
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 5: Florida State. It's a situation. It's a little different because

692
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 5: they're on the way back and then like they're basically

693
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: they're too deep, didn't play. They had like twenty four

694
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: healthy opt outs not counting like the quarterback who's hurt.

695
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: Like that was like they still arguably arguably playing the

696
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: number one team in then the best team in the country.

697
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 5: Who's pissed with all your backups? They just like it

698
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 5: was like a you know early in the year when

699
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: you see some of the big time teams play like

700
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: a one double a opponent and they can just hand

701
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: the ball off every player of the second. You know,

702
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: you could just like hand the all off every play

703
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: and you can't stop him. That's what Jeorjia did to

704
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: Florida State. It was embarrassing. It was like a high

705
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: school mismatch. Yeah, it was terrible, sixty three to three,

706
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: and it could have been worse. Oh, they, like I said,

707
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 5: they handed the ball off almost every play.

708
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

709
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Speaker 7: I watched the Alabama Michigan game though, that was Did

710
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 7: you watch that every minute of it?

711
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Speaker 5: It was I'd be interested to get like maybe a

712
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 5: third hour to get your thoughts on that.

713
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: We do you have to know, thanks on JJ McCarthy,

714
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: But no.

715
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Speaker 1: It was neither one of those quarterbacks.

716
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Speaker 6: I'm a little disappointed because I feel like you watched

717
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 6: the word like the game that did that mattered less.

718
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Speaker 4: I know, well, I mean I'm not going to rule

719
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: out yet, but now I I it was.

720
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Speaker 5: I mean, you can rule JJ McCarthy.

721
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: The atmosphere, I think, oh yeah, the atmosphere.

722
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: I don't want to I don't want to get it

723
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: thrown back in my face. I don't think they need to.

724
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 9: Move the time of those games because for the grandma's

725
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 9: like me, that second game starting as late as it did,

726
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 9: I'm not watching that.

727
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: I watched the highlights the next day.

728
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Speaker 5: I watched it. I watched it. I watched every minute

729
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Speaker 5: of it. I watched the first half. Penix is excellent.

730
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: He's an excellent college quarterback. I mean he was really

731
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: really could last.

732
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: That first throw that he made that was like whoa.

733
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Speaker 9: From the highlights that I saw on Twitter, it just

734
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 9: looked like a video game, like it didn't look real

735
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 9: watching my.

736
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: Kind of guy throws it downfield too. Of this J

737
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 5: McCarthy like play Actors is gonna dump it in the

738
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: flat time.

739
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 6: I mean, just talking about talent goodness.

740
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: So it's left arm. It's unfortunate.

741
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: It is unfortunate. Watch it. Watch it.

742
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: I take offense with that.

743
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: Wat watch it flipped.

744
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it looks perfect, right.

745
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 6: Because everybody at me that Michael Pennix has bad mechanics.

746
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 5: This funny. He's just lefty. Like, if you watch it,

747
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: lefties look smooth.

748
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 6: If you watch it from a right the only one

749
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 6: hitting the righty perspective. It's fine. Now he does have

750
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 6: like kind of that Philip Rivers type release where it's

751
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 6: like a little bit lower than like the Brady over

752
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 6: the top release, but it's it's not like a broken

753
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 6: mechanically throwing motion.

754
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 5: He was so good last night. But how did they

755
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: almost blow that game? That was amazing?

756
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 6: The injury, the injury to h to the running back,

757
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: stop the clock and.

758
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 5: You know how you can avoid that, Take a knee

759
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: and let the clock run, just saying cost him.

760
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Speaker 1: All right, So we've set the table. There anything else

761
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: that we need to.

762
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 7: Bring up or no, some I mean some still some

763
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 7: fallout from Trent Brown kind of dragging into the you

764
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 7: know that stuff, but you.

765
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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I mean Bill, I mean, he never would,

766
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: but he certainly didn't pooh pooh the idea that you know,

767
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: he was in hot water and that's why he didn't travel.

768
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean I saw.

769
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know the exact numbers of how

770
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: much he lost out on that, but I mean, I

771
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 7: I'd be surprised.

772
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: If he finishes the season here. I don't know.

773
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Speaker 7: I mean, does it make sense just to not dress

774
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 7: him for the last one? Or do you cut him

775
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 7: this week?

776
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 6: I'll give credit to Vadian Low, like I would much

777
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 6: rather see Vaderian Low for whatever reason.

778
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: I don't know why. Like it's not like Darian Low.

779
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: It's a big part.

780
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: But he's been much better at left tackle than right tackle,

781
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: much better. Like I think that that's his natural position,

782
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 6: that's where he played in college. And uh, he he

783
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: allowed two hurries in this game. Uh, and it really

784
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 6: wasn't It wasn't a huge issue.

785
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

786
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: In the middle though, Huh. I saw some of the

787
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: way we could get to that. Yeah, I mean, and

788
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 4: all of them and all of them in the middle.

789
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Speaker 6: I hate to David Andrews is an all time, all

790
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 6: time great patriot to me, red jacket guy. I do

791
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: wonder if he's starting to slow down a little bit.

792
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 6: A long season he's been in Iron Man. He's played

793
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: like almost every offensive snap for them this year, and

794
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 6: it just I would say three out of the last

795
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 6: four games have been iffy and.

796
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 5: This was his worst game of the year.

797
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: Does he retire? That's what we were kind of talking about.

798
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: I just what more does he have to prove? I

799
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: don't know.

800
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Speaker 7: I mean, he's a banged up guy. He's played in

801
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 7: the trenches for a long time. He's got multiple super

802
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 7: Bowl thought.

803
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: It well, you know, initially, if Bill's gone, like he

804
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: has to look at.

805
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: That stage, I really want to reset.

806
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, reset with a new coach, perhaps a new system,

807
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, go.

808
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: To find a lot of energy to go through that transition.

809
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Exactly, you know. Yeah, although I mean, like if he

810
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: wanted to, he's not a free agent, is he. I

811
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: was gonna say, if he wanted a backup job somewhere,

812
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: he could still be, you know, collecting a check elsewhere

813
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL if he.

814
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 9: Wanted to, I was going to say, on the flip

815
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 9: side though, to be a part of something fresh with

816
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 9: a new quarterback and hopefully get a lot of help

817
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 9: on the roster.

818
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: He could want to see what happens.

819
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I just don't think he's a backup.

820
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 6: No, No, I just think it's tough because when you

821
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 6: watch it, like how much is he making.

822
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: Up for the rookie guards? Right?

823
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 6: Like City Show is on one side of him, Mafi's

824
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 6: on the other side.

825
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: I thought the early sack was responsible for that. Yeah,

826
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: he's like they had a stunt inside. It looked like

827
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: he was trying to do too much?

828
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's I would agree that that is part

829
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: of it. And how much of the communication inside Like

830
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 6: they're just getting destroyed by twists up front, Like they

831
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 6: can't pick up a stunt to say, there.

832
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 5: Had some big guys in on sacks and that game

833
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: like that you don't expect to be really Yeah, I

834
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: just their.

835
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 6: Picks and stunts up front, like they can't pick any

836
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 6: of it up, and like how much of that is

837
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 6: just a lack of communication and a lack of awareness

838
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 6: by the younger guys, and David Andrews is just getting

839
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: left out to dry, you know.

840
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: By the communication has been a big issue. Tamara brought

841
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: up the idea of a new quarterback, So we should

842
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: at least update people on the current draft status for

843
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: the Patriots as a result of the Cardinals winning. Right now,

844
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: I think they sit in the third spot. There's a

845
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: chance they could get back to the two spot.

846
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 5: Correct.

847
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Somebody from nets and Dakota Remington cold forty five, what's

848
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: his name?

849
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 5: Coda Randall?

850
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Coda Randall.

851
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: I got some project.

852
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 6: I had all the permutations. Yeah, I was talking to

853
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 6: him about it in the press box on sea.

854
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: He did a thing, which I appreciate somebody doing that

855
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: kind of work about all the different ways the Patriots

856
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: could move up or down, and a lot has to happen,

857
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, either way to get the two or get

858
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: down to I think the worst they could be a six, right.

859
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: I had heard seven, but I don't know.

860
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's so weird with the strength of schedule stuff,

861
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 7: because I think, like the Atlanta game has like a

862
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 7: significant impact on this. The schedule stuff, like there's it's

863
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 7: just it's so hard to figure out every game is

864
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 7: going to impact it a little bit.

865
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: But if they stay at three, I mean they're in

866
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: the running for at least Drake May, I would think, right,

867
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: because now there's a big movement in Chicago to keep Fields. Now,

868
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means to the front office,

869
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: but like fans are like clamoring to keep them.

870
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 5: Oh, I think there's a possibility of that. But I

871
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: would say that they're going to trade if that, Oh.

872
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they could trade with the Patriots.

873
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: Well yeah, but then then you lose resources that you

874
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: don't have.

875
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: But if you love Drake May or if you love

876
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and you can do it that way, then

877
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: you probably need to do that, right, Yeah, they're not

878
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: going to be in next year's draft, they're in this

879
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: year's draft.

880
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 10: No.

881
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 7: I mean Washington's going to need a quarterback too, So

882
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 7: I mean if they get to two.

883
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: And the other part of that is to go back

884
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 5: to the way you started the show with how big

885
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: this game is. Yeah, I feel it. Wales feels like

886
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: they're gonna win it.

887
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I think they are going to win it.

888
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: And you know that drops you down probably five anyway,

889
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 5: you know, to someone someone's going to win.

890
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 4: It's what I hate about it.

891
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 7: It's like you could lose the game to the Jets

892
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 7: and get the quarterback and then dominate the Jets for

893
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 7: you know, in theory if it all work perfectly.

894
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: Like it's just such a weird conundrum.

895
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 7: I wish it was not like this where you want

896
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 7: to lose so that therefore we can continue to beat

897
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 7: the Jets with someone new.

898
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Like what was the game against Miami where I think

899
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: with Castle threw the ball in the stands.

900
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was the two point conversion to set

901
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: up a playoff matchup with Jackson.

902
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: Right, So they there been an example of Pittsburgh, But

903
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: I can't see the Patriots losing this game, so I can't.

904
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 9: But what happens if the Cardinals they played the Seahawks.

905
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 9: So if the Cardinals beat the Seahawks and the Patriots

906
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 9: beat the Jets.

907
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 7: But then there's also washing open your stats book and

908
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 7: it's it's it'll may give you an ice cream headache

909
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 7: trying to think about it.

910
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 4: That's why I like, I don't know, let's just let's

911
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: let's talk after the.

912
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: Assuming the Giants lose, the Giant strength of schedule is

913
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 5: very close to the Patriots. So if the Patriots end

914
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: up winning.

915
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: Another team probably in the market.

916
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: So if they start, you know what they want, A

917
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: big contract.

918
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: They gave that nobody could. Oh sorry, I said, if

919
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: they start Mac, then we know what they're doing.

920
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: They start Nathan Ryk.

921
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: They already said, they already said that that be starting.

922
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 5: So let me ask you who said that.

923
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien, o'briandon this morning.

924
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: So now we're just announced quarterback.

925
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 6: He's been doing that. He's been doing that.

926
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 5: I've seen him say a lot of those decisions aren't mine.

927
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: Earlier it was a coin toss.

928
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, when it was Mac and yeah, since since Zappi

929
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 6: has been interesting He also said it after the Dallas

930
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 6: game or the New Orleans game, one of those games,

931
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 6: that it's going to be it's gonna be Mac like

932
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 6: he's given us a bone everyone in a while.

933
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't see any reason not oh no,

934
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Zappy this week?

935
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 5: Did you think it any chance of a change on

936
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 5: Sunday because a lot of people, a lot of people

937
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: were clamoring for Yeah, I was not.

938
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: One of it.

939
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 5: I was not one of those clamoring.

940
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Somebody's sitting next to me, Oh they should.

941
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 6: Bring in Mack and like no, no.

942
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: But then there was a play I forget what it was,

943
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, maybe I.

944
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: Have to say when the third interception happened. Now we're

945
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 5: on TV, so like we don't get the all twenty two.

946
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 5: You know, when I saw when I saw the when

947
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: I saw the interception, I was like thinking to myself,

948
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: you got to get him out. And then they immediately

949
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: showed the replay and it was clear it wasn't him.

950
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 5: It was clear that there was a miscommunication on the play.

951
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: And I was like, Okay, I think.

952
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: That's the one where I said, yeah, maybe you bring

953
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: it that.

954
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 6: That was the one that I didn't put on ZAPPI

955
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 6: like that was definitely a Jalen Raker sided just issue.

956
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: But I would say that the first two, like the fact,

957
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 6: you know, we can get into the PBF thing if

958
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: you want, the fact that none of them are his fault.

959
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 5: I don't. Honestly, I don't care enough to get into it.

960
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: I just thought I just thought it was funny that

961
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 5: the guy had had three interceptions and none of them

962
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: were deemed turnover worthy plays.

963
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: The first one, he's a beat late to it, Like

964
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: you can't throw a quick game, and you can't double

965
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 6: hitch on a quick game, like if you're gonna if

966
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 6: you're gonna throw a curl flat quick game, that ball's

967
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 6: gotta be out before GICKI turns around, like you can't.

968
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: Just like the same kind of thing, like if you

969
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 5: have like a screen, you know how like a lot

970
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 5: of times you have a misdirection screen and you turn

971
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 5: without looking and just throw it. So those are not

972
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: turnover worthy plays if they get picked on.

973
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 6: No, So the reason why the first one wasn't a

974
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 6: turnover worthy play is because at Oliver made a ridiculous

975
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 6: diving interception.

976
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: But when you throw the ball on a slant and

977
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: the other guy hits it first. That's a turnover worthy play.

978
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: Douglas could have caught that one too.

979
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, which one the.

980
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: First one Douglas got inside? I think it was Parker right,

981
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 5: Parker inside, Douglas got inside. The snoffs on both of that.

982
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 5: That was in my mind. Like the first one is late,

983
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: like and he said it after the game. The first

984
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: one is late.

985
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: The guy was just sitting there waiting.

986
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

987
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 6: The second one is he read the wrong side of

988
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 6: the field first of all. Second of all is it's

989
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 6: an absolute telegraph telegraph pass and he's just staring down

990
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: the slant waiting for DeVante Parker to make it cut.

991
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 6: It's like, what do you think Rasul Douglas is gonna do?

992
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 6: He jumps it. I thought both of those plays, look,

993
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 6: we can all it was a terrible route by DeVante Parker.

994
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 6: It was you know GASICKI could he have tried to

995
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 6: box out Rissell Douglas a little bit more. It was

996
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 6: a bad luck that it got tipped up in the

997
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 6: air and it Oliver picked it off shore. Fine, but

998
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 6: like you have to at least give some of the

999
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 6: blampie to the corner.

1000
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: First one, the one that was the one that he

1001
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: was underneath them, Like, you can't throw a slant if

1002
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: the guy's got that position.

1003
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Gasicki had a step, but the other guy was just waiting,

1004
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: you know when they open there.

1005
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's so there's a there's a nickel

1006
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 6: that that he's reading right the cornerback and when the

1007
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 6: corner goes with farrow Brown into the flat, that triggers

1008
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 6: for him to throw the curl and he just takes

1009
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 6: an extra beat in the pocket to make the decision

1010
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 6: and the ball is late and that's how you get

1011
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 6: the tip.

1012
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: I would also say the quick out that he threw

1013
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 5: through Ajpanessa was probably a turnover worthy play. I'm just

1014
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 5: saying because that one he was looking at, he was

1015
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: looking where he was throwing, and he literally threw it

1016
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: through number fifty seven for the Bills.

1017
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, this was this game worried me for Zapi because

1018
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 6: the Bills play a lot of zone coverage. They play

1019
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 6: their a soft zone team, and they have a decent

1020
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 6: pass rush, and Mac beat them in Week seven with

1021
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: a quick release, short passes, get the ball out, get

1022
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 6: it into space, all that sort of stuff, and that's

1023
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 6: just not Zapi's game. And they had to dial up

1024
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 6: deeper passing concepts in this game to cater to Zapi,

1025
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 6: and he was under fifty eight percent pressure rate in

1026
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 6: this game. And I don't think it was all because

1027
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 6: the offensive line was bad. I think some of it

1028
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 6: was him holding the ball and waiting for things to develop.

1029
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 6: When you have an over three second average time to

1030
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: throw and you are throwing a lot of screens in

1031
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 6: a lot of quick game and it's still inflated to

1032
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 6: three point three seconds, that tells you that the quarterback's

1033
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 6: holding the ball.

1034
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: U uh, all right, Tamara's food is here, So we'll

1035
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: take a break. And when we come back, a lot

1036
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,600
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1037
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Speaker 1: is it.

1039
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 5: No?

1040
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1041
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,680
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1063
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 13: Final road game of the twenty twenty three season for

1064
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 13: the Matriots on the final day of twenty twenty three,

1065
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 13: Jalen Laker two are right on mcgell line to return.

1066
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 13: They opening kick a sales and over end in his direction.

1067
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 13: He'll feel from the left hash too straight ahead to

1068
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 13: the ten to the fifteen to the twin birth of

1069
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 13: Crod the thirty and.

1070
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 11: He went to mass bits away to McField.

1071
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 14: He's gone to the forty to the thirty left side,

1072
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 14: twenty ten touchdown Patriots.

1073
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 11: They turned the table probably where at the road when

1074
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 11: ninety US credit opening.

1075
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 14: Kickoff back from Buffalo Sex nothing new England.

1076
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 11: Holy crap.

1077
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 14: He played at the back foot at the one and

1078
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 14: you saw this lane over the left side.

1079
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 11: Top of the numbers creases it and he broke one tackles.

1080
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 14: Then it was one on one with the kicker and

1081
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 14: it's a bit move out and there ain't no flags.

1082
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 13: It's gonna be a diving interception on the carrows peck

1083
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 13: dock all. It takes the snap, lowers the shoulders with

1084
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 13: knife in the left side to leave the Buffalo touch down.

1085
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 11: Josh Allen grows.

1086
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 13: Hena Douglas has another rising running across the thirty ankles

1087
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 13: inside twenty five twenty fifteen to ten.

1088
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 5: He's gonna be hit.

1089
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 11: By Parker outside and.

1090
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 14: Go line putting tumbles oom and my pick sacks ont

1091
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 14: touch down Buffalo.

1092
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: I'm not going to turnover by knowing good what.

1093
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 11: Is he looking at?

1094
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 14: I mean that jokes get loose because this kid ain't

1095
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 14: see it today. And to be faird what do you

1096
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 14: call for the other guy? He's gonna start calling for

1097
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 14: the other guy here. That's another awful, awful throw.

1098
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: To the left side. Nobody's there.

1099
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 11: Three determined chunk it duck.

1100
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 13: Get Sickney short motion from the left and baked to him.

1101
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 13: With Zapy back in the pocket, he's gonna run it

1102
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 13: to the left. He's got room to the tan, he's got.

1103
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 11: Room to the foe. Get a clear lay to the

1104
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 11: end zone. Touch down, hatreds. I want to tell two

1105
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 11: quarters here, man.

1106
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 14: I mean, if the offense doesn't have a chance, and

1107
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 14: then they have a drive like this, you overcome a

1108
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 14: potential fumble, then you have to drop and then you

1109
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 14: got the big screen pass and then you fall asleep

1110
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 14: from the backside defensively for seventeen yard scamper for your

1111
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 14: quarterback's proven. He's got a bounce back from those three

1112
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 14: early pigs.

1113
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 11: I want to run by him. He knew Man was there.

1114
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 11: He red Man well, and he got up through that

1115
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 11: left side.

1116
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: Now you get a chance.

1117
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 13: The receiver's left with Allan in the boot leg, gave

1118
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 13: him the pocket.

1119
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 15: Off the play Bowl and he had to throw a

1120
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 15: keapball down when upside friaking.

1121
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 11: Got it, except that the lapsus and rons over and.

1122
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 13: Makes the big plans inside the boundary and he tumbles

1123
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 13: out of bounds with an interception against his original NFL

1124
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 13: team at the Buffalo twelve.

1125
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 11: Can you have two quarterbacks played worson of first time?

1126
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 11: Can what did an awful telegraphs.

1127
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 16: Throw that was horrible?

1128
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 13: The snap of the spot, swinging with a leg, the

1129
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 13: kick lifted to the uprights. That game is booking the gold.

1130
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 11: Snugger roller coaster for that kid.

1131
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 10: Boy.

1132
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 14: They'll bump with the confidence from a week ago in

1133
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 14: Denver hit the game winner.

1134
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: And the problems.

1135
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 11: You give Buffalo the ball back at thirty six.

1136
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 5: He takes the staff, he gets the shot from Bowie.

1137
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 11: He's into the end zone.

1138
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 13: How a second time today Josh Allen touched down Buffalo.

1139
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 14: It was easier to drive as you could draw up

1140
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 14: thanks to the big play to bring the order back

1141
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 14: in the game, winning wide open down middle the Floyd.

1142
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 11: He just considered it seen as just calm found the rock.

1143
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 11: After that, now you're dropping right.

1144
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 13: Dona snabs you, Mary holds Ryley kicks and it clears

1145
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 13: the line. That kick is sailing to the uprights. That

1146
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 13: game about a technic lay man. They called the lay

1147
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 13: game Stelas stopping in the lay the proceedings far to

1148
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 13: the staff.

1149
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 11: It's the play a game of I told you the last.

1150
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 13: The team out and now the Patriots will keep burying

1151
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 13: her out there.

1152
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 14: Let's say he's Ryland to Bell because he chucked that

1153
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 14: one too. We won't see him postgame.

1154
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 13: The Patriots have a first. Who's going to go inside

1155
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 13: the seven right? Ash Zapiana Center's lake.

1156
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: Give it to Elliot coming right here right, stays at

1157
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: his feet, carry hit.

1158
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 11: You the touchdown dress man.

1159
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 14: If we're in this game, that's crazy because you've got

1160
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 14: so many people out. I mean, it's a lot of

1161
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 14: backups in there, thirteen guys and the effort by Zake

1162
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 14: Kelliott as I said, he's got a lot left in

1163
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 14: his tank.

1164
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 11: These guys had a good year playing his role.

1165
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: That's a have an Allen up to.

1166
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 11: He's bringing a different guy in exchange and all that. Yeah,

1167
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 11: I will mean you're not up, not up twenty one.

1168
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: I was six.

1169
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: He's one back step man.

1170
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: He's been on the sideline.

1171
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 11: He's cold he's killing kidding.

1172
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: I would look in the center.

1173
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 13: He's got your tier behind him as the same dude

1174
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 13: story strives to be left knee on a final play

1175
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 13: in the final game.

1176
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 17: In twenty twenty three, is.

1177
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 13: The Patriots and the Bills part their separate ways, two

1178
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 13: teams headed in vastly different directions. Buffalo will be ten

1179
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 13: and six, Patriots have dropped to.

1180
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 10: Four and twelve.

1181
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 13: They guaranteed a last place finish for the first time

1182
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 13: since two thousand as they drop it in Buffalo in

1183
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 13: their road finale by a twenty seven twenty.

1184
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 14: One final bottom line makes some plays in this game,

1185
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 14: Yeah you did. Your defense played its teleoff.

1186
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 5: The game.

1187
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: Can't commit four turnovers.

1188
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 14: In the first half, expect to beat anybody special district

1189
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 14: their face.

1190
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 11: I felt like this game was over into the first

1191
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 11: happy bounce back. But one thing.

1192
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 14: We talk about why these players, because of the lack

1193
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 14: of ball security of his football team, they can't go

1194
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 14: back to turn.

1195
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 11: Over like that keeps you out of this league.

1196
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 13: At play that position, different quarterbacks, higher scoring game, but

1197
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 13: a microcosm of so many games this season. The defense

1198
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 13: trying to do its part, and for the most part,

1199
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 13: doing it to keep doing the game of the offensively

1200
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 13: with too many.

1201
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 11: Turnover or to hear your buddy.

1202
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: Last road happy in.

1203
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 13: Your ear last game coming up next week, but again

1204
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 13: as the Patriots of the Bills wrap up the calendar

1205
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 13: year of twenty twenty three. It's Buffalo twenty seven, Emma

1206
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 13: Pats twenty one.

1207
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: Milk all right back here in Patriots nfiltered eight five

1208
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: to five pass five hundred. It's the A stick and

1209
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: Hutline web radio at Patriots dot com as the email address.

1210
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, Zoe, I know the Patriots are playing tough

1211
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: and hard to the finish, but Zoe sure isn't. I'm

1212
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: looking at him fifth quarter. They he's got the mike

1213
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: with no mike flag. He's got his fofy jacket that

1214
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't even take off.

1215
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 13: You know.

1216
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you know Roachie has got his nice you know

1217
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: suit on. You know whoa yeah, Fred, Yeah, I mean,

1218
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: come on, Zoe, I was you know.

1219
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 5: Made me laugh on the third pick that was clearly

1220
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 5: on Rager and not on Zappi. When he's watched it live,

1221
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 5: he's like, you gotta get him out. You gotta be fair.

1222
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 5: We said to make the move when the other kid

1223
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: was in gotta make a and never mentioned anything about

1224
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 5: the possibility that I was like a you know, a miscommunication.

1225
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Another funny ninety eight point five story. So we're getting

1226
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, and we land in Buffalo and it was

1227
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: a hard landing, and Mark Cappella, who is the producer

1228
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: of the broadcast, is one row behind me diagonally and

1229
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: his glasses go flying. His coffee and his phone, you know, goes.

1230
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: So we land and he's looking, finds the glasses, can't

1231
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: find his phone. So, like the whole plane is like looking, looking, looking,

1232
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: can't find it. The buses leave, He's still on the

1233
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: plane looking with the flight attendants and the crew. They

1234
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: can't find it. And it turns out his phone fell

1235
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: in the backpack of the person sitting next to him,

1236
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: and the person in the with the backpack took it

1237
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: and left, and they didn't find it till later. Yeah,

1238
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: who was the person?

1239
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 4: Was it?

1240
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Somebody? Somebody from ninety point five?

1241
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's unbelievable.

1242
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he had a lot of people to

1243
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 4: tell the story about it like that, but they couldn't

1244
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: find it anywhere.

1245
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: But you know, he was getting it all weekend, right.

1246
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: Do you know where your phone is you get your phone?

1247
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: So what was up with the hard landing?

1248
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 5: Though? Oh yeah, he's Buffalo.

1249
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: He just came down.

1250
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: We came down and you know like sometimes he goes

1251
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: left to right, you know cross, So to uh.

1252
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 6: Full context here, I was told by Tony Flanna again,

1253
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: the Great Tony Flann again that if you're military trained,

1254
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 6: defy planes that because because they land on aircraft carriers,

1255
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 6: they land immediately. There's no you know, coast into the landing.

1256
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 6: And so he thinks that our our pilot, baby boy, isn't.

1257
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 6: Yeah I was trained by top Gun.

1258
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, which I don't.

1259
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: We're also doing to Buffalo on the way home a

1260
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 4: barrel roll.

1261
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 6: You know, Well, if he's trained by top gun, then

1262
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 6: it's good in my book.

1263
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, if we get into

1264
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: a you know, into trouble up in the air where

1265
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: we're in good shape, or if we want or if we.

1266
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 6: Want to play like beach volleyball or something, will be great.

1267
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: Right play with the boys.

1268
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: But it was it was pretty funny. We just couldn't

1269
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: find his phone. It's like it went into the vortex.

1270
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: We just couldn't find it. So whose series going on?

1271
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: It's not mine.

1272
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 6: It wasn't mine. I just looked.

1273
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: I don't know any weird.

1274
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: Uh So I just want to read this email. This

1275
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: is Steve in Arizona. As far as Penix goes. While

1276
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: I recognize the talent, he's had four seasons then with

1277
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: injuries and a chrome chromo clavicular joint separation, left throwing shoulder,

1278
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: twenty a right stern clavicular a cl injuries both eighteen

1279
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: and twenty plus. He'll be twenty four in May. To me,

1280
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: he'll be he'd be a risk as a backup, never

1281
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: mind as QB one, and certainly not a first round pick.

1282
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 5: Oh, the last part might be true. Okay, So come on.

1283
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 6: The one thing, the one thing about all of this

1284
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 6: that's gonna piss me off the most. I'm going to

1285
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 6: tell you this right now. Okay, if you want to

1286
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 6: bring up his injury history, that's the book. Okay, Like

1287
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 6: he's an injured player. Like he's been injured multiple times.

1288
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: That's why he's not being talked about. Is the number

1289
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 6: one pick in the draft? Let alone, you know, a

1290
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 6: second round pick?

1291
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay?

1292
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, no, I'm not done, not done.

1293
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, the fact that he is twenty four years

1294
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 6: old is because he got hurt earlier on in his

1295
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 6: career and this whole like breakout age thing like this

1296
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 6: is I'm gonna argue with my fellow nerds on this one.

1297
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 6: Breakout age is the most ridiculous draft stat I've ever

1298
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 6: heard in my life, like breakout age because the kid

1299
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 6: I've never even heard of it.

1300
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 5: So everybody.

1301
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 6: The reason, the reason why it matters that he's twenty

1302
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 6: four is because people are saying that he's not a

1303
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 6: truly blue chip elite talent because it took him five

1304
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 6: years in college to start to play like this.

1305
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think it's it's the reason why they

1306
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: don't like the fact that he's twenty four is that

1307
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: he's closer to the end of his career.

1308
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 6: No, that's not why I'm telling you that. The reason

1309
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 6: why the nerds bring up his age is because, like

1310
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 6: a guy like, just to use an example, somebody like

1311
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 6: Jamar Chase who broke out at nineteen and is just

1312
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 6: out of the gate at blue chip, incredible NFL prospect,

1313
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 6: he has a much higher ceiling to people than somebody

1314
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 6: like Pennix because Pennix is older and is considered a

1315
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 6: finished product. Right, like he's matured and this is what

1316
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 6: he's going to be. This is him maxed out.

1317
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: No, But to your point, if he's missed a lot

1318
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: of time with injury, he never had a chance.

1319
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 5: Correct, Right.

1320
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 6: So that's why the context of every individual player in

1321
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 6: his age matters. Kyle Dugger was an older prospect because

1322
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 6: it took him a while to mature into an NFL prospect.

1323
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 6: Michael Penix had a bunch of injuries where he had

1324
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 6: Indiana in the top ten of the AP pole in

1325
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 6: twenty twenty and would have been a big time NFL

1326
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 6: prospect two years ago, three years ago if it wasn't

1327
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 6: for the fact that he had all these injuries. So

1328
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 6: the whole story with him is about injuries.

1329
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 5: I think that's one of those case by case bases

1330
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 5: kind of right, you know, because I would full disclosure.

1331
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 5: I fall into that all the time. You know, there's

1332
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 5: a reason why when the guys declare early for the draft,

1333
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: those are the guys that all generally go quick because

1334
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 5: more time, well they're better. It's not like it's not

1335
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 5: just about it, because no one would argue if you

1336
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 5: draft Michael Penix and he's twenty four and you get

1337
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: a good fifteen years out of them. What's wrong with that?

1338
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: Nothing?

1339
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 5: I mean is that out of the realm of possibility

1340
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 5: to go from twenty four to thirty nine for an

1341
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 5: NFL career. That's the quarterback.

1342
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 6: That's the other thing is his position. Like if he

1343
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 6: was a receiver, if he was a corner or something

1344
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 6: like that, and he was an advanced age player, I

1345
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 6: would say, Okay, that deck gives me pause. But if

1346
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 6: you're hoping that he's going to be your quarterback for

1347
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 6: the next decade, he's still only thirty four.

1348
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: Years old, right, So why that? Like case by case

1349
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 5: right now? I do in general, I do kind of

1350
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 5: look at the early entries as being more talented.

1351
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 6: Christian Gonzales, but early entry.

1352
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: But I would, I would, you know, be cautious and

1353
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: I'd want my doctors to look at him because is

1354
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: there something structural with him.

1355
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 5: That That's what I would have question prone to tras

1356
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: a c L again because he's done it.

1357
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 6: Twice, right, That's the whole conversation. Yeah, is his injuries,

1358
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 6: and there's a really good chance that he falls out

1359
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 6: of the first round because of that. But in terms

1360
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 6: of his what he's put on the field, basically going

1361
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 6: all the way back to Indiana. He's been a hell

1362
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 6: of a quarterback.

1363
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: And I remember watching him in Indiana and Indiana Stakes

1364
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 5: every single Oh yeah, they were really good.

1365
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1366
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 5: When he played, they had a receiver that I really

1367
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 5: liked too, And I can't remember his name. I think

1368
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: he was number eight, no number I forget all right.

1369
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: Marvin writes in from uh I believe he's in Uh. Yes,

1370
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: he's in North Carolina. Uh Fred. I want to hear

1371
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: Paul's take on the rest call at the end of

1372
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: the Detroit Dallas game.

1373
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 5: I think everybody's already heard all of the takes, you know.

1374
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 5: I think everybody's already hasn't heard your take, so I

1375
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 5: don't really have one that's any different. That's my only point.

1376
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, based on what I saw, it

1377
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 5: looked to me like Brad Allen was talking to Sewell

1378
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 5: and Decker and then saw Skipper coming in and didn't

1379
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 5: even wait for him to get there. He just went

1380
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 5: and said seventies because he's been reporting all games, right,

1381
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 5: So that's what I think happened, But no one knows

1382
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 5: because you can't hear it, and you have to rely

1383
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 5: on what people are saying the Lions say that Decker

1384
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 5: reported and Skipper didn't. Alan's saying that Skipper reported and

1385
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: Decker didn't. Here's a way to sort of avoid this stuff.

1386
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: The referee has a mic, right, why shouldn't it just

1387
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 5: be open all the time, you know, not open to

1388
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 5: the public.

1389
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: But just transparency.

1390
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little transparency that way we know who's lyon.

1391
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: God, you know that that would be something, but you know,

1392
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: God forbid they you know.

1393
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 5: And again not open, so like the whole game, like

1394
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 5: you know how sometimes the reference and everybody laughs, you know,

1395
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: not that open, not like that, but.

1396
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: Like kind of like a body cam on.

1397
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: Yes, you can hear and then you can go back.

1398
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 5: It's like when you have a player miked up.

1399
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: For those like sometimes we're in the press box and

1400
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: the Michael forget to turn off these forget to turn

1401
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: off his mic and nothing gets a press box howling, Oh,

1402
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: than to hear Mike forget about you know, it's like, oh,

1403
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: no matter what he says, ah, you know, they.

1404
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 6: Just when people bring up Michael Pennix's age, that's it.

1405
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 6: That's the only other thing.

1406
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 5: So like the Brad Allen thing, you know, he's been

1407
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: involved in some of these games now, and at some

1408
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 5: point there has to be repercussions. I was I think

1409
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 5: they got I pissed the Yeah, the Lions. I think

1410
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 5: the Lions got screwed. But I also think the Lions

1411
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 5: contributed to it by trying to intentionally be yes, uh no, vague.

1412
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 5: I think they try to pull a Patriot because I

1413
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: never saw the metal.

1414
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: I never saw sixty eight go like, you know, like this.

1415
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 6: Apparently nobody signaled on the shirt that it was all verbal, right.

1416
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1417
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 6: My other favorite part about the road is that, like

1418
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 6: when there's a Saturday night game, the Sunday morning, before

1419
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: the buses leave, we talked about this and it's like

1420
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 6: everybody's got an opinion, everybody's got a way in. I

1421
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 6: just that the Lions. Everybody's given the Lions the benefit

1422
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 6: of the doubt. And my whole thing is why they're

1423
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 6: the Lions. But this is things up for my entirety.

1424
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 5: This is my point. Just let us hear and then

1425
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 5: that way I don't have to take. Now here's my

1426
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 5: problem with Brad Allen specifically, did you hear the did

1427
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 5: you read the pool.

1428
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: Report at all a little bit?

1429
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, So he goes to the whole thing, and he says,

1430
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 5: seventy reported sixty eight did not. Okay, whatever, I think

1431
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 5: we can all sort of have our opinion as to

1432
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 5: whether or not we think he's telling the truth. Then

1433
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 5: he said something along the lines of they also were

1434
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 5: in a legal formation, so even because he was covered up,

1435
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 5: you didn't call it exactly. Yeah, so that's a lie. Yeah,

1436
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 5: because I've seen a million examples of there are two

1437
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 5: fouls on the play, both against the offense, illegal shift,

1438
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 5: that penalty has declined. Blah blah blah blah blah. Right,

1439
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 5: they didn't do that, so you can tell me that

1440
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 5: you had another penalty anyway. So even if I got

1441
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 5: it right, they wouldn't have counted because he was covered up.

1442
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: That's not what you called on the field. It's just

1443
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no difference between that and letting a

1444
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 5: blatant holds go. Yeah, you didn't call it on the field,

1445
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 5: so it didn't happen.

1446
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: And you know, to Paul's point, with the transparency, they

1447
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: might have to move in that direction because with more

1448
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: and more and more casual fans now betting because it's legal,

1449
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: you can't have the public losing confidence in the officials.

1450
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 7: It's just so hard to imagine these guys are like

1451
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 7: going home working a job during the week, you know,

1452
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 7: at whatever the law firm that they're at, and then

1453
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 7: you know, I just I don't know for sure though

1454
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 7: that the answer is that if they're in ref school

1455
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 7: all week and reviewing, that's doing those things, that it's

1456
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 7: really going to make that much of a difference.

1457
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 4: But it's just it's it's just strange to have this.

1458
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 7: Multi billion dollar industry all kind of hinging on part time.

1459
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: I think Paul Paul should open up a business. It

1460
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: should be the Paul Perillo School of officiating in time

1461
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: clock management.

1462
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 6: He is good at the clock manager. You would have

1463
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 6: helped Andy Reid.

1464
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: Back in the day, well he did consult.

1465
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 5: The maybe like like you're you're right, friend. I think

1466
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 5: it is trending to to a change in that direction.

1467
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 5: And I think it's very like you have that replay

1468
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 5: booth and you know the sky judge so to speak,

1469
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 5: that they kind of sort of use, you know, they

1470
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,959
Speaker 5: fixed plays quickly now, which I think is a step

1471
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 5: in the right direction. They do it in those other

1472
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 5: leagues like the USFL. I think did it let us

1473
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 5: hear it like it's not the whole game.

1474
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: Look, yeah, let's hear what they're saying.

1475
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 5: Like at least so that what let's just say there's

1476
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 5: a replay judge, right, he has access to everything communication

1477
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 5: wise that's going on on the field, and if it's

1478
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 5: something like this that we need to hear later, we

1479
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 5: can hear it. Because I think what bothers people is

1480
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 5: John Parody was the guy, he was the official in

1481
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 5: the booth. Yes, and it's like, and you know why

1482
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 5: he's butchering it, ev He's he's just this guy. Yeah,

1483
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 5: he's just well, it's the onus is on the player there.

1484
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: I mean, what so in other words, you don't just

1485
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 5: have to report, you have to knock the guy over

1486
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: and say, hey, you make sure I do actually that

1487
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: you get this, but I don't understand.

1488
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: So they have to make a public announcement. You know,

1489
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: number seventy is reported to be eligible at that point,

1490
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: doesn't Dan Campbell say whoa who who wo? No, that's

1491
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: not right.

1492
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 5: I'm not even paying I'm on my headsets, I'm calling the.

1493
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: Play somebody Jared Goff or whoever, somebody.

1494
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 5: I don't think that that's something that you'd be even

1495
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 5: paying attention to Okay, like I'm calling the play in

1496
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 5: the huddle, the game's on the line, I'm not listening

1497
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 5: to what the reference saying to the other team.

1498
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 6: I guess I do agree that, like with the point though,

1499
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 6: that the onus is on the player, like my report. Yeah,

1500
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 6: like Mike Rabel, I don't know if it was recently

1501
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 6: or whatever, but he talked about it because obviously he

1502
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 6: had to report. He would come on the field, and

1503
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 6: he said that he would like grab the ref like

1504
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 6: and look eye to eye with him and be like,

1505
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 6: I am reporting.

1506
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 5: As don't you feel like Decker did that? It didn't

1507
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 5: look like what I don't know what he did. I'm

1508
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 5: saying that the huddles here, Brad Allen and Decker are

1509
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: over here and and right right. That's why I think

1510
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: they were trying to be vag But what else could

1511
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 5: he possibly be saying?

1512
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird because there were two people with

1513
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: the ref and then seventy comes running over like.

1514
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 5: And if you watch it, as seventy gets about halfway there,

1515
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 5: he gives Brad Allen leaves right, Brad Allen never let

1516
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 5: seventy get within earshot. Yeah, and yet he just determined

1517
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 5: that he was the guy that was reporting, right, so

1518
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: it was weird. So I do think that they ma

1519
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 5: a mistake, but I think part of it is the

1520
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: lion's fault.

1521
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 4: I file it too.

1522
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 7: It's just what happened here with the balls, Like it's

1523
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 7: just the rest showing inattention to detail and these little

1524
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: things that are just kind of slipping through the cracks

1525
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 7: and it's like, huh, sorry, we didn't know.

1526
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 5: And I think that people wouldn't be I think what

1527
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but what I get incensed

1528
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 5: after the fact when you're seeing something and you clearly

1529
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 5: see it, right, they tell you that you didn't see

1530
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 5: what you saw, yeah, you know. So that's why I

1531
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 5: think if you just have a little transparency, or even worse,

1532
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 5: if it's a guy and I don't know Brad Allen

1533
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 5: from from Mike Yoursell, I don't know who this guy is,

1534
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 5: you know.

1535
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: So, I mean, we have the technology right he should

1536
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: this should be repercussions. Even on some of these close calls,

1537
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,479
Speaker 1: they can stop the clip and they can say, see

1538
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: that that's where we made our determination at that point,

1539
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: you know.

1540
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 4: I mean you kind of can't see it the way

1541
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: he kind of like looks.

1542
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 5: At like that Pool report was insulting to anybody who's

1543
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 5: ever watched a game, because you're watching something that's totally

1544
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 5: differ from what this guy is saying.

1545
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: All right, a five to five past five hundred. Let's

1546
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: turn it over to the listeners. We'll start with Harry,

1547
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: who's in Maryland. What's up, Harry.

1548
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 17: Hey, it's good to hear your voices here. It's perfect

1549
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 17: timing because I was calling to talk about this Detroit thing. Okay,

1550
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 17: I thought I was on an island. I'd blame this

1551
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 17: completely on Detroit.

1552
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 13: You are, I've been taking a beating with everybody telling

1553
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 13: me it's the ref's.

1554
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 5: Ball, so it was the rest.

1555
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: I think it's part. I think both are culpable here.

1556
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the Lions tried to be too cute,

1557
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 5: but it's on the ref. The ref screwed up.

1558
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: And then you know, they asked me.

1559
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 5: If this happened to the Patriots, they'd be a storming

1560
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 5: of Roger Goodell's office. And this morning, you know, I'm saying,

1561
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 5: if they tried to be intentionally vague and do that

1562
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 5: and they didn't, if if Bill Vanovitch screwed up, the

1563
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 5: Ravens game. They would be an attack on Bill Vinovitch,

1564
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: not on the Patriots for trying to be too I couldn't.

1565
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 6: I couldn't agree with you more.

1566
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: They asked Bill this morning about it, you know, and

1567
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: they went back to that Ravens game and said, you know,

1568
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: what's the process you know when you're doing that? And

1569
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: Bill took it totally the wrong way. It's like there

1570
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: was nothing illegal back then. And this, you know, he

1571
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that what you did was illegal. He was

1572
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: asking what's the process to make sure that the ref right?

1573
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 5: And it would in sense a team that does go

1574
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 5: outside the box to think of these different ways to

1575
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 5: try to get an edge within.

1576
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: The rules, within the rules.

1577
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 5: And if the referees screwed it up, and again, if

1578
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell is to be believed, which I'm not necessarily

1579
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 5: believing everything, if he went over this before the game

1580
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 5: with them and they still screwed it.

1581
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 6: Up, well, apparently, Brad Allen and this is standard operating procedure.

1582
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 6: Brad Allen was not in that meeting, So that's I

1583
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 6: guess that's how it's I don't know, that's a Pro

1584
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 6: Football Talk report. And he said that that's standard.

1585
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: What else, Harry.

1586
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 17: Earlier, when you said no one knows what was said.

1587
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 17: That's that's the big point. You know, we see these guys.

1588
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 17: Sixty eight runs over to the rest.

1589
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 15: He might run over there and say, hey, we're running.

1590
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 17: That tackle eligible thing again, and the rest says, oh, okay.

1591
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 17: You know you have no idea what that conversation was.

1592
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 5: That's why I said there should be transparency.

1593
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 1: And again, now that gambling is legal, we have to

1594
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: have that transparent. When it was illegal, you know, you

1595
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: couldn't feel sorry for the better. I don't think something

1596
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: that was against the law, But now.

1597
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 5: I know everybody. Everybody goes down that road. I don't

1598
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 5: really care about that.

1599
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't I do. I want I want it all

1600
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: to work out.

1601
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 5: I just want the games to be officiated properly. I

1602
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 5: don't think that's too much to ask.

1603
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 10: Yep, but Paul, they announced it.

1604
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 17: I mean, the entire Detroit team is standing there and

1605
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 17: no one thought, whoa seventy that's what.

1606
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 5: I don't think you're even paying attention to that. I

1607
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 5: think you you go over and report it.

1608
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 10: Now.

1609
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 5: You're worried about the play. You're calling the play. Yeah,

1610
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 5: you're not listening to what the referees. I don't know.

1611
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 10: There's a lot of undred guys over there that somebody.

1612
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: Should have there's actually eleven, but that's okay. No, but

1613
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 5: he's talking about everybody on the sideline.

1614
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: Assistant co all right, thanks, Harry.

1615
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 6: I just to go back to your point about if

1616
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 6: they had messed this up with the Patriots against Baltimore.

1617
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 6: My whole thing is is that you would have been

1618
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 6: one of them.

1619
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 5: You would have been at I'm with your point.

1620
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 6: What I'm telling you is is that the Patriots would

1621
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 6: not have screwed this up. That the Patriots would not.

1622
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 5: But I'm not willing to say de Troyd screwed it up.

1623
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 5: I'm telling you that's all I'm saying. I would like

1624
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 5: to hear the actual conversation so I know who's screwed up.

1625
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 5: I like to know who did something wrong. That's my

1626
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 5: whole problem with this. I'm not telling you Detroit's right

1627
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 5: or wrong.

1628
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1629
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but when you don't know, and that's the way

1630
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 5: the league wants to go.

1631
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: But when you don't know, then to Evan's point, and

1632
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: you see Detroit screw up things over the years, you're like, well,

1633
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: they probably did something wrong.

1634
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 5: But that isn't that wrong.

1635
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: It is.

1636
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 6: But you know coaches such a fraud Campbell.

1637
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: Because I think he's one of the most unique guys

1638
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: in the league.

1639
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 6: He's a great motivator, great cheerleader for his tea, but

1640
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 6: his coordinators do all the work, okay, and like, good

1641
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 6: for him.

1642
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,480
Speaker 5: So I'll say this is anyone.

1643
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: Giving him credit for putting together the game plan. No,

1644
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm just saying giving him credit for motivating his team. Yeah,

1645
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: and he does a good job of that. But if

1646
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: you're asking me again, like, do I think that he

1647
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: handled this whole thing properly as the head coach of

1648
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, And I tell you no, because I

1649
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: think he's a knucklehead.

1650
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 5: And I'll take it a step further. I think that

1651
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 5: once the play happens, okay, it's unfortunate you lost a

1652
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 5: potential go ahead two point conversion. Notice I say go ahead,

1653
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 5: not game winning yeap, which is another element of that

1654
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 5: that got completely glossed over. You gotta just kick the

1655
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 5: extra point. Like you can sit there and say I'm pissed.

1656
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to prove a point and win anyway,

1657
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 5: So I can tell you to go screw yourself after

1658
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 5: the game. So I was dumb.

1659
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,520
Speaker 1: He's so boneheaded when it comes to those situations.

1660
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 5: But I don't think that there was boneheaded to go

1661
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 5: for two. But when you go back to the seven

1662
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 5: yard line, now you're just being stubborn.

1663
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: Right right, Just take the tie kick the.

1664
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 5: Extra point from the thirty eight year it would be

1665
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 5: thirty eight yards now instead of thirty three. Just kick

1666
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,879
Speaker 5: the extra point, right.

1667
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 4: I've got into my head, but I am trust I

1668
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 4: got it into my head when I imagine.

1669
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 5: I think that was part of like I got Decker.

1670
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 7: Walking over like hey, hey, hey, reporting reporting, reporting, and

1671
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 7: then because what what what?

1672
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 4: Who's reporting?

1673
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 7: And then he looks up and he sees Skipper saying, okay,

1674
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 7: you're reporting and reporting reporting, Like it's like I'm muddled

1675
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 7: and stuff.

1676
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 5: I don't think And if you're asking me my personal opinion,

1677
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 5: I think Decker went over and in no uncertain terms,

1678
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 5: he reported, I think this there's not a coincidence that

1679
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 5: it was fifty eight and sixty eight. And I think

1680
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 5: that that's why they both went to him, and Decker

1681
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 5: said I'm reporting, and they figured when they said, maybe

1682
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 5: there'll be some confusion. Was it sixty eight or fifty eight,

1683
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 5: one of those deals. That's what I think they tried

1684
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 5: to do. I'm reporting, who's reporting? This guy coming in?

1685
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 9: Oh?

1686
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 6: That guy foxed everybody, including the official right.

1687
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what happened. I think they confused

1688
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 5: Brad Allen. But that doesn't mean that it's Detroit's fault.

1689
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 5: It's Brad Allen's fault for getting confused. I agree if

1690
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 5: that's what happened.

1691
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: Patty's an agawam. What's up, Patty?

1692
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 16: What's what's going on? Everyone? That wide receiver you're thinking of,

1693
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 16: I think was Antoine ramdellel No.

1694
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 5: That was like in the like early nineties with Cal Brown.

1695
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 16: I don't have much to Adam.

1696
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for calling him.

1697
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 4: I just want to say hi, it.

1698
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 16: No, no, just what you guys are talking about about

1699
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 16: the Jets game and how you're kind of I don't

1700
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 16: want to say that you're penciling them in for a win,

1701
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 16: but I think the last game that actually penciled this

1702
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 16: team in for a win was the last Jets game

1703
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 16: they've played in the medal lands, and.

1704
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 10: Like Week three or four.

1705
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 16: I can't do it.

1706
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm you're right. I'm being overly simplistic

1707
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: about this game. I just can't imagine them losing this

1708
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: game because it's the Jets. They're terrible, you know. And

1709
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: I know their defense is really good and they've played

1710
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: really well, but boy, their offense is putrid. And I

1711
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: think our offense has gotten just enough where we might

1712
01:12:56,439 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: score twelve points and win the game, you know, turn

1713
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: it over.

1714
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be like a ten to seven.

1715
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1716
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna have to score a lot

1717
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: of points to win this game. In other words, you know.

1718
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not revealing my my bold.

1719
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 3: You already revealed it. I already know what your bullpick.

1720
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that doesn't air right away, so to wait

1721
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 6: and see.

1722
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Patty, We'll go to California. Rob's on

1723
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: the line. What's up, Rob? Are you a dentist chair?

1724
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: What's going on?

1725
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1726
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: Great?

1727
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 18: Sorry, I must be online. Three man, I can barely hear.

1728
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 19: You, but I'm gonna so this is a Robin san

1729
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 19: Diego the Connecticut. Okay that I was that Jersey Mike yesterday.

1730
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 19: I was thinking to be all the five A few

1731
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 19: questions because the connection is bad.

1732
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, yeah, make it quick and then we'll try it.

1733
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, right, So the firpose.

1734
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 18: If if you go down there, they played it Jets

1735
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 18: and they're playing conservative, They're kicking field goals, there's not

1736
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 18: a lot of emotion. I think I know the answer,

1737
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 18: but it's more speculations. Do you think that that might

1738
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 18: be indicative that that Belichick is coming back if it's

1739
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 18: not like a high emotion game, that they're not throwing

1740
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 18: the kits and sink at the Jets. They're doing these

1741
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 18: little sink and dunks and hunting. Now, So that's my

1742
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 18: first question, okay, But my fecond question is this. My

1743
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 18: brother in law is in Connecticut right now and he's

1744
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 18: going up to the Hall of Fame this week in

1745
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 18: the stadium. I haven't been there in a few years.

1746
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 18: I want to know if there's anything you could check out,

1747
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 18: you know, is there a new exhibit, is is there

1748
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 18: anything happening is the Hall of Fame specifically?

1749
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll answer that when you get off. As far

1750
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: as the Hall of Fame, call first, because sometimes there's

1751
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: like corporate events and they actually close it to the

1752
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: public on game day unless they come on Saturday, and

1753
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: then you can check it out. But how long ago

1754
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: did he say he was the last time he was here.

1755
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 7: A couple of years years. I mean, if you didn't

1756
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 7: see the new Super Bowl exhibit. I mean they have

1757
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 7: some new stuff from the latest win.

1758
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a while ago.

1759
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1760
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 7: It's a wonderful place. My son Cammel came yesterday. We

1761
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 7: shot our show and Campbell tagged along, and then he's

1762
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 7: been there one hundred times.

1763
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 4: But he's like, let's go through again.

1764
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 7: And there's plenty to do there for the kids, and

1765
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 7: you know, all kinds of interactive stuff.

1766
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: And there's a new new bar called the Heart that

1767
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: opened up where CBS.

1768
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 4: We went to the Harp.

1769
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: You could check that out.

1770
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: We did that.

1771
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 5: He was very you liked it. There a couple of

1772
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 5: a couple of couple of drinks, couple a couple of noons.

1773
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 5: Good for him.

1774
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 3: I was a little bit shocked that that was even

1775
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: open on Harp.

1776
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 7: I know, well it was good because there was no

1777
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 7: one there, and so we hop right in, got some

1778
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 7: some app got some no I mean Buffalo Chicken.

1779
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: Like the Page's Hall of Fame. Why was that open?

1780
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 11: Oh?

1781
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 6: Was it open or did you just open that open.

1782
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 6: You gotta yes because everybody's off, so.

1783
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 4: We should have told him to go. Usually Monday, is.

1784
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 7: It ten is the sweet spot because you get to

1785
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 7: see some you might see some famous So let yeah,

1786
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 7: like ninety eight point five the sports.

1787
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: And what was his first question about that?

1788
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 7: I like, my whole thing with this week is like

1789
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 7: you wouldn't know what week it is, what their record is,

1790
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 7: Like they are just like he he's going to present

1791
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 7: the game plan there, like there's not going to be

1792
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 7: any talk about the health this season or anything.

1793
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 5: I would just say, like, it's just this season, Like

1794
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 5: Fred's right, it's been consistent in that they've been sloppy,

1795
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 5: but like there's no way of knowing how the game's

1796
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 5: going to unfold. Like I would never have told you

1797
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 5: they're going to turn the Bowl over four times, right,

1798
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 5: you know before you even settle in your chair on Sunday?

1799
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: So who knows?

1800
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 5: Who knows?

1801
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1802
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in twenty twenty when they beat the

1803
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 6: jetson was it week seventeen WEEKDS?

1804
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 4: Cam Newton didn't Jacobe throw.

1805
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 6: A touchdown pass to Cam Newton in that game?

1806
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 5: I believe that is correct, Like, so they were.

1807
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 4: Doing that kind of stuff, Devil Make Care and that.

1808
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 5: Right, and it's so he wasn't getting fired after that season.

1809
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: The only way, the only way I think we'd get

1810
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: an indication that this is Bill's last game is if

1811
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: they come out like in the Wing Tea or something

1812
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: like that and start running like old school.

1813
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 5: I hope they do that so that they can lose

1814
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 5: drop kicks, you know, yeah, stuff like that.

1815
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 4: What's he gonna wear to it comes out?

1816
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 5: Aroun This could put a cap.

1817
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 4: On the hoodie database too, So what's he gonna wear?

1818
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 5: You know a lot of people want to know how

1819
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 5: you're going to wrap that up if if indeed this

1820
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 5: is the last.

1821
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: Now, when it's all done, well, you donate the database

1822
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: to the Smithsonian.

1823
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 5: Maybe to the Hall of Fame here, but Naval Academy.

1824
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1825
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 7: I mean there's there's probably a book in there, so

1826
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 7: I mean, like, I don't know, I'm never really a

1827
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 7: brook in the database, right, Like I mean, like the

1828
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 7: Bill Belichick hoodie has.

1829
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 5: Maybe it's like I think there's what's it's a picture book.

1830
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 5: It's a picture book, yeah, picture scrap picture graphics. A

1831
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 5: coffee table book about coffee tables.

1832
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, a scrap book, yeah, graphic a picture like, No,

1833
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1834
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 4: If Bill goes, though, I'm gonna be h.

1835
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it could be a coffee table book with scraps

1836
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: of each hoodie on the talking I'm going to be

1837
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: each one is, each page is signed by Bill.

1838
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 7: If he goes, he's going to be a big week

1839
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 7: for me and the dumpsters out there, because I'm just

1840
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 7: gonna be waiting.

1841
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 4: You know, see if anything gets chucked out there, like

1842
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 4: what is rady old sweater?

1843
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 7: They throw it out, you realize that, you know, that's

1844
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 7: the twenty sixteen blue cutoff hoodie that I.

1845
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: Once met with this custom book company that makes these

1846
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: like really expensive books on like you know, special cloth

1847
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: paper and all the other and they come in like

1848
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: wood boxes and you literally put gloves on before you

1849
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: open it up and grease. Yeah, like the pages assigned this.

1850
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: There was one with Muhammad Ali and and we were

1851
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: thinking of doing like a commemorative Patriots thing that you know,

1852
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: each book would be like five thousand dollars, but I

1853
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But it was fascinating to see these books.

1854
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, usually that's just really old books, not

1855
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 4: really nice.

1856
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: No, these are like custom made books, like some of

1857
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: the binding was like snake skin, you know, rich really cool.

1858
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: Did you have something to say sexty Booksmara?

1859
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 9: I was wondering you, hey, I was wondering how many

1860
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 9: people are going to show up to the game if

1861
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 9: this weather is horrible and I just want to step up.

1862
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of very cheap tickets on here,

1863
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 3: very alarming.

1864
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: But also if it is bill last game, eighty thousand

1865
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: people will say they were there for it.

1866
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure.

1867
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

1868
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 9: Literally, in section two twenty four, Row twelve, which is decent,

1869
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 9: seats thirty nine dollars.

1870
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 4: Oh well, probably shouldn't I want to go to that game.

1871
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 9: So I'm just saying I'm not sure I would want

1872
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 9: to see two teams who have probably the worst offenses

1873
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 9: in the NFL playing.

1874
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 5: But would you watch on TV?

1875
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: But would you potentially want to see you saw Bill's

1876
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: last game?

1877
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 9: Kind of, I don't know if that's worth sitting in

1878
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 9: a Blizzard to watch a zero zero game at half Yeah,

1879
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,480
Speaker 9: looking coaching.

1880
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 5: Down, look at him, look at it, look at how

1881
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: he wears that I.

1882
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 4: Just threw that headset he threw.

1883
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 5: I disagree with the zero zero but again zero zero half,

1884
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 5: it's possible he's going to.

1885
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: Break a tablet for the It is possible. It is possible,

1886
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: of course, it's possible.

1887
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 6: But I think for this game, I will like try

1888
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 6: to soak in a little bit the fact that this

1889
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 6: could be his last game, because in nineteen with Brady

1890
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 6: was a playoff. It was such a different stakes that

1891
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 6: the focus was just on the the play and the

1892
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 6: outcome of the game. This is the outcome of the game.

1893
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 6: Unless you are pulling like me for them to lose,

1894
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 6: it really doesn't matter. It's more just this is this

1895
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 6: could truly be it?

1896
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 5: Like, right, do you think there are more than the

1897
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 5: people that were actually here claiming they were at that game?

1898
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: Brady's no, because he threw a pick to in the game. Well,

1899
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: he had won the game. Everybody said I saw that.

1900
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 5: I really don't think that's true. I mean, unless it was.

1901
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: Like a super Bowl.

1902
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 5: Well Ted Williams, a random Alaska. Yeah, no, one says

1903
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 5: they were at that game.

1904
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing about that game. Everybody said they

1905
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: were there and there was only like fifteen thousand people

1906
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: in at the game.

1907
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 5: Well you were there, so right, I'll take your word

1908
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 5: for it time.

1909
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: That was the whole thing.

1910
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 5: I don't know anybody.

1911
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: Last game, everybody said they were there and the ballpark

1912
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: was half empty.

1913
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 9: I I couldn't see myself going to a game that

1914
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 9: has like no playoff implications for either team. Buith teams

1915
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,919
Speaker 9: are horrible, their offenses are horrible.

1916
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 3: The Blizzard, like, I just don't want to.

1917
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: What about simply paying your respects to Bill be watching?

1918
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 5: I could get into that. If this was like THEES no,

1919
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 5: like if they won, like let's just say that they

1920
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 5: won a super Bowl last year and Bill like sort

1921
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 5: of announced I'm retiring, I could get into it. The

1922
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 5: uncertainty surrounding Bill's future to me is not enough for

1923
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 5: me to go to the game. If I if I

1924
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 5: don't want to go, like I mean, if you want

1925
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 5: to go to their season ticket older by all means

1926
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 5: you should go. And I do think the snow if

1927
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 5: we get snow, I think that helps that atmosphere. Like

1928
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 5: you remember the Snow game, and you know there was

1929
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 5: nobody here that day, but they all.

1930
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: Claim they were.

1931
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take your word for that stuff. I don't

1932
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 5: really know anybody that clamors to say that they were there,

1933
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 5: but they were. I know I was here. I know

1934
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 5: I left like the day before to get here. I

1935
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 5: just if he was retiring, and I think it would

1936
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 5: be like a pay your respects to Bill Belichick.

1937
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 6: I think there's so much certain time. I'm just not

1938
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 6: sold that he that he's done here.

1939
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 5: No, I don't think it's done done.

1940
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 6: No, I don't think it is either in the closer

1941
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,959
Speaker 6: that we get. Duce and I were talking about this

1942
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 6: this earlier. It's it's a whole program that you have

1943
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 6: to tear down if he's gone. Like it's not just well,

1944
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 6: that's what I would do the coach, right, but like,

1945
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 6: but it really is like because it's the coach, the

1946
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 6: whole infrastructure of the football operations is is him Like

1947
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 6: he put the.

1948
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 5: Whole thing together.

1949
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: We don't know anything, but what if it's.

1950
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 6: Well, I guess my point is still that That's kind

1951
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 6: of my point though, is that I just am not

1952
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 6: anticipating that it's going to be all that different. Like, yes,

1953
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 6: I think it might be. It could be Girrod, or

1954
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 6: it could be Bill with like a souped up scouting

1955
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 6: staff or something like that. But I'm just not imagining

1956
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 6: that it's going to be Ben Johnson's going to be

1957
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 6: the coach here in two weeks, and it's a completely

1958
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 6: different thing. And you know, we have a GM that

1959
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 6: that none of us have ever heard of or has

1960
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 6: never been here, we never spoken to. Like I think

1961
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 6: a lot of fans, that's what they would prefer. It

1962
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 6: is a complete clean house and rehaul of football. And

1963
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 6: I just don't think that I would prefer I don't

1964
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 6: think that that's real.

1965
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 5: If you if you're making a change, like if you're

1966
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 5: keeping Bill, and that's fine, but if you're making your change,

1967
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 5: I would definitely lean to the last.

1968
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, because otherwise I feel like it's ended up with

1969
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 9: with what you said Evan about like dressing up a

1970
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 9: pig or putting a make up on a pig, like

1971
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 9: lipstick on a pig, whatever saying. I feel like it

1972
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 9: would just be the same thing if you just kept

1973
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 9: everybody but call.

1974
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 5: The perfume everybody else's lips is.

1975
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 7: I mean, and maybe not the best example, but when

1976
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 7: Bill came in here was like the whole scouting staff gone,

1977
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 7: the whole all the front office was gone.

1978
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 4: I mean it's everybody.

1979
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 7: When you turn over everybody, Well, when Bill came they

1980
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 7: that's a great example, they.

1981
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 5: Kept the personnel department through the draft. Then they all

1982
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 5: got that that's how it usually was.

1983
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, you hear a lot of times

1984
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: and teams like, oh, this equipment manager has been there

1985
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: for fifty years or so. That means that they've gone

1986
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: through many many got through. Yeah, and those those you know,

1987
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: behind the scenes things. It's better to just keep people

1988
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: who know what they've been doing rather than have to

1989
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: worry about hiring those positions. Like we have a person here,

1990
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: Nancy Meyer, who's been here since Buck o' kilroy. There's

1991
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: no reason to get rid of her. She will be

1992
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: loyal to whoever the new head coach is. She knows

1993
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: her job, the players love her. She takes care of

1994
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: those things so you don't have to think about them.

1995
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: And those people tend to stay from regime to regime.

1996
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: So really all the new people have to worry about

1997
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: is what's going on with the players and the plays.

1998
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 5: You know.

1999
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't the closer that we get to it,

2000
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 6: I said it last week, I just I'm not convinced.

2001
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 6: I'm not convinced that they're actually going to do it,

2002
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 6: because I just think that it's been built up an

2003
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 6: entire infrastructure for twenty five years, and I just I

2004
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 6: don't I don't know if they have the klines to

2005
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 6: do it, honestly, but it's a big, big move to

2006
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 6: move on from Bill Bellichi Oh.

2007
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 5: I agree with that part. But in terms of you know,

2008
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 5: it's an entire RESI you're going to have to do

2009
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 5: it at some point. I just whether it's this year,

2010
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 5: next year, or two. He's not going to coach forever.

2011
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 6: Right, But I think the plan was to pass the

2012
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 6: baton to Girrod. But I don't think they're ready to

2013
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 6: pass the baton to Gerrod yet. And I think the

2014
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 6: plan was to pass it to him in a year

2015
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,799
Speaker 6: or two, after he passes Shule's record, and after Gerard

2016
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 6: gets some more experience, and then they do it on

2017
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 6: more of a high note. Now you're passing the torch

2018
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 6: to Gerrod for him to fix a four and thirteen

2019
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 6: football team. It's a much different situation.

2020
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 5: I feel like, I don't know if this is speaking

2021
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 5: out of turn. I hope well Fred will just yell

2022
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 5: at me if I am. But I feel like, if

2023
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 5: you want to keep Bill, the only reason to keep

2024
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 5: Bill is because you think he's the best man for

2025
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 5: the job, like a fear of changing, and they're all

2026
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 5: relevant things that you're talking about. I'm not this isn't

2027
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 5: necessarily coming at you for what you just said, But

2028
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 5: if that's the reason why you keep it, because I don't,

2029
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 5: I just I'm not ready to make all these I'm

2030
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 5: not sure that the timeline is right for if you

2031
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 5: think girod Mayo is the next coach and it's a

2032
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 5: year or two before you really figured that you'd make

2033
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 5: the move, that's not the reason to stick with, especially if.

2034
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: You've got the third pick and you're planning to somehow

2035
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. I need, you know, I can't delay

2036
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: the transformation of the offense.

2037
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 5: That's how I you know.

2038
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: I've got to get going.

2039
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 5: And if you want to keep Bill because you think

2040
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 5: Bill is the best man for the job, then keep him.

2041
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 5: Then make that argument and make that be the reason

2042
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 5: trying to keep him.

2043
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 3: For that record, it's going to take him five more years.

2044
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: And that's another one I cannot I could care less

2045
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: about the I couldn't care less about the record, and

2046
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Bill cares as much as people think

2047
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: he does about the record.

2048
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 6: I just think that the bigger I think that you

2049
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 6: can really say that Bill, it's hard to imagine them

2050
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 6: getting a better head coach than Bill Belichick.

2051
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 5: But it might.

2052
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 6: He might just not be the right head coach for

2053
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 6: the team right now. That's and that I think is

2054
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 6: where it becomes so difficult to decide what to do.

2055
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 6: Is because no matter what you do in two weeks,

2056
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,839
Speaker 6: if Bill Belichick's not the head coach of the Patriots,

2057
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 6: you're downgrading the head coach of the Patriots like you're

2058
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 6: but Ben Johnson might be the right guy for this

2059
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 6: era of the Patriots because you are gonna have Drake May,

2060
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 6: and you are gonna have young, skilled players, and he

2061
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 6: is gonna put those guys in an offense that's modern

2062
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 6: and has a chance to succeed, and all that stuff

2063
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 6: could be true. I just I think that there's still

2064
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 6: so many things that Bill does better than anybody else

2065
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 6: that it's hard to imagine that he's gonna be truly

2066
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 6: a better well rounded head coach than Bill. And I

2067
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 6: worry about that sort of thing coming out, like that

2068
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 6: sort of side of it wants to dust settles, and

2069
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 6: you know, the reactionary stuff goes away of going four

2070
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 6: and thirteen or five and twelve or whatever it is.

2071
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the ideal thing would be, I guess,

2072
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: or the easiest thing would be, is if Girod takes

2073
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: over and he gives the offense to one of the

2074
01:27:54,439 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: one of Evans guys, you know, some new fangled, you know,

2075
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: offensive minded guy, and so Girod doesn't have to worry

2076
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: about the offense. He kind of hands it over to

2077
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: this person. Girod just kind of overseeing the team. Uh,

2078
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's DeMarcus Covington or whatever. He keeps

2079
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 1: him as his defensive coordinator, and then the transition isn't

2080
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: as much, isn't as big a thing, you know.

2081
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, the problem is that's the best idea in theory.

2082
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 6: But these offensive minded guys are all getting head coaching.

2083
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 6: I hear you, so like they're not gonna take you know,

2084
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson from from Detroit and make him make a

2085
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 6: ladder remove and no it can't.

2086
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: But it has to be somebody like that's next in

2087
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: line somewhere to be oc and you're grabbing him before

2088
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: the does and making him yourn.

2089
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 6: I'm blanking on his name right now. But the offensive

2090
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 6: coordinator in Miami is an interesting guy because he's somebody

2091
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 6: that doesn't call plays right now in Miami because McDaniel

2092
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 6: calls the plays. So for him to truly get offensive

2093
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 6: coordinator head coach like type of aspirations, it's kind of

2094
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 6: like Eric b Enemy right, Like you almost have to

2095
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 6: leave the nest and call plays for yourself and establish

2096
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 6: yourself as a big offensive mine someplace else. So he

2097
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 6: could bring the Shanahan offense to New England and run

2098
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 6: it himself and call the plays and things like that,

2099
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 6: and then maybe that springboards him to a head coaching job.

2100
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 6: But that just means in two years he's going to

2101
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 6: be gone because he's going to be the head coach

2102
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 6: someplace else.

2103
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: And you notice we're not talking about GM right now,

2104
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: which could be the bigger question. You know, who's who's

2105
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: picking these guys in April.

2106
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 9: I definitely think there needs to be a separation between

2107
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 9: head coach and GM and not have them be all

2108
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 9: in Frank Smith.

2109
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, I forget that.

2110
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 6: Na he was gonna say Matt Smith and I was like,

2111
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 6: that's not it.

2112
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 4: No sucks the OC.

2113
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 7: I wonder too, what the defense looks like in a

2114
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 7: post Bill you know, post Belichick world here, and does

2115
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 7: this defense get totally changed, because.

2116
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: I wonder the defense looks like those little guys in

2117
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: the metal football thing you turned them electricity on. They

2118
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: all go in different directions.

2119
01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 7: I just feel like he's built it in a very

2120
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 7: specific and there's a lot of players that. I mean,

2121
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 7: I think Gonzalez can you know, play, Jonathan Jones can play.

2122
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 7: But I just I wonder if another another guy comes

2123
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 7: in here and says, I don't really have any use

2124
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 7: for Jamal Bentley. You know, I'm kind of over Devon Godshaw.

2125
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 7: You know, like a lot of the pieces that they've

2126
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 7: you know, kind of unique to the Patriots, that they

2127
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 7: wanted to do things the way they want to do it.

2128
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 7: I could see another person being like, this isn't going

2129
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 7: to work for me in any capacity upfront.

2130
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 5: But you might also get guys that would work better

2131
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 5: with a new guy, you know, maybe a new cha, right,

2132
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 5: you know, someone like that.

2133
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I get your point, and I like that point.

2134
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 4: I don't know about Chase specific.

2135
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying a guy who doesn't really have

2136
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 5: a full time role.

2137
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 4: I was just yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, I didn't

2138
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 4: going to go.

2139
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Didn't to go to Chris Bordon shine with another.

2140
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 6: I'm actually I'm also kind of worried about that. Like

2141
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 6: I think defensively they're really sound, Like I think they're

2142
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 6: really well coached defense. I would totally and I would.

2143
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 6: I wouldn't touch the defense, like I bring back everybody.

2144
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 6: I mean, not like if if Kyle Duggart goes out

2145
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 6: and gets fifty million dollars and I'm okay.

2146
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: But I mean you wouldn't touch the defense. That means

2147
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: you would touch the defense philosophy.

2148
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 5: Correct, Okay.

2149
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 6: I don't think the defensive philosophy is broken, okay, And

2150
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 6: I think that they've adapted it enough now where they

2151
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 6: have the Kyle Duggars, Marty Map who's Jabriel Peppers is

2152
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 6: of the world, who are basically, you know, I'm going

2153
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 6: to give him some credit. I think Bill looked at

2154
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 6: it and said, I could have a two hundred and

2155
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 6: twenty five pound linebacker that's a little bit better than

2156
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 6: the average linebacker in coverage but worse against the run,

2157
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 6: or I could just have a safety play linebacker who's

2158
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 6: a really good coverage player, you know, And like he

2159
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 6: looked at it and said, I'd rather just play the

2160
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 6: safeties at the second level of the defense.

2161
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: But to Douce's point, a guy like Devin Gottschow, who

2162
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Bill says is one of the best defensive linemen in

2163
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: the league, maybe another guy says, not in mind yet.

2164
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 4: But there's you know, the big fatty two gappers and.

2165
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 5: The trading guy.

2166
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 6: Because they have Kyle Dugger playing at the second level

2167
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:52,919
Speaker 6: of the defense.

2168
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 5: So if the.

2169
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 6: Guards get up to the second level and a two

2170
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 6: hundred and fifteen pounds safety is up there, then it's

2171
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 6: going to be an issue.

2172
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 5: So they have the.

2173
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 6: Guys the god Shaws, the Wises, the bar and Moors

2174
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 6: and those guys to hold up the line of scrimmage.

2175
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 7: And that goes to the point you know that I

2176
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 7: was just making was that it's all connected. You know,

2177
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 7: if you pull out, you know, if you don't, if

2178
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 7: you want to go smaller at linebacker, then you you

2179
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 7: also might want to get more penetrators up front.

2180
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,839
Speaker 5: And I mean I think a lot of teams have

2181
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 5: big space eaters up front. I just don't think a

2182
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of teams prioritize they're.

2183
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 4: More of a spot player and shortyard.

2184
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 5: Like minimum salary guys, not nine million a year guys.

2185
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, But on the flip side too.

2186
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 7: I mean, like, you know, not to say that Brian

2187
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 7: Flores is going to come here and be the defensive coordinator,

2188
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 7: but I'm sure he could take this personnel and and

2189
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 7: you know, put a really good team together and not

2190
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 7: have to change everything because he's kind of from that

2191
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 7: tree you have blitzing every play.

2192
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 6: I would just I would just retain the coaching staff

2193
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 6: on that side of the ball, like if that just

2194
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 6: means okay, like Ben Johnson's the head coach and Girodmeo's

2195
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 6: now the official defensive coordinator instead of whatever the heck

2196
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 6: he is right now, Like I just make it that way.

2197
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 6: I would bring back the whole staff if I could.

2198
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't think you can keep the Belichicks.

2199
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 4: That's tough.

2200
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 7: I mean, that's why Covington is interesting, just because you know,

2201
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 7: Gerrod kind of comes with the baggage and I mean

2202
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,799
Speaker 7: baggage using that trem loosely, but you know, the Belichicks

2203
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 7: are the Belichicks. So Covington, though, I think, is universally respected,

2204
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 7: and you know he was down at the Senior Bowl.

2205
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 7: He's another like one of those guys that I could

2206
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 7: see maybe surviving a regime change.

2207
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 4: And kind of maybe somebody that could stay.

2208
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking though, if Bill doesn't go anywhere else to coach,

2209
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: but he's you know, retires or whatever, and you keep Steve,

2210
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,719
Speaker 1: do you at least get Bill on the phone every week? No?

2211
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean I would go for that.

2212
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 3: You have to know.

2213
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 6: I don't know why, why, what's wrong with Steve?

2214
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 3: It's just weird having someone like linger over like Bill.

2215
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 5: If Bill's not coaching anymore, that's that's a different scenario

2216
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 5: that Like, if Bill goes somewhere next year, then yeah,

2217
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 5: that's Belichick kids staying here. That's weird. I agree. But

2218
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 5: if he's not coaching and he decides, all right, I

2219
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 5: had a good run, it's a good time to hang

2220
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 5: it up. Yeah, you know, I'd be.

2221
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 3: Shocked to be hung it up.

2222
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 5: I would too. I would you still watch the.

2223
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 1: Event he does? I'd like to keep Steve and and

2224
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: you get Bill on the phone hello?

2225
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, why wouldn't you just keep him?

2226
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: If you will?

2227
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 5: Like, if you're so interested in what he has?

2228
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Great game day? Remember is he yes he is? Yes

2229
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: he is. Remember when Parcells was here and Robert at

2230
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the end said the best sideline, What did he call

2231
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: Parcels the best game day sideline coach in the history

2232
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: of the modern NFL. Remember that?

2233
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 4: What Remember it was.

2234
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: On the field? I think it was the Pittsburgh game.

2235
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 5: Can you put like the names instead of He and.

2236
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Robert talked about parcels.

2237
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 5: Y apology in the history of the modern Yeah, I'm

2238
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 5: usually much better. I apologize. I'm usually much better at

2239
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 5: speaking Fred. But you are correct, remember that after the

2240
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 5: Jacksonville after He's the greatest sideline coach in the history

2241
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 5: of the modern era. Right, it was like nine qualified.

2242
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: But I think you know, if you want to whittle

2243
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: it down, who's better at devising a game plan than

2244
01:34:58,479 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: Bill Belichie.

2245
01:34:59,280 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 5: I think he's special.

2246
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 6: I think he's the best game planner in the history

2247
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 6: of the league. Yeah, I had that I don't think

2248
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 6: is disputable.

2249
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Identifying matchup, you know, looking at you know, the weaknesses,

2250
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: looking at the strengths and figuring out how to neutralize them.

2251
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 5: You know, which is so funny. He feels like he

2252
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 5: can do stuff to stop offenses, yet he doesn't want

2253
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 5: to build one.

2254
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he just feels like everybody can stop it.

2255
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 6: Because I think that I think that, you know, David

2256
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 6: Andrews said it after the game, and I know that

2257
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 6: this is a lot coach speaking, A lot of coaches

2258
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 6: say this, but you have to like learn how to

2259
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 6: what is it not lose to win or something like that.

2260
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 6: And I think that that's how Bill approaches offense. Just

2261
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 6: don't lose the game instead of trying to be aggressive

2262
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,759
Speaker 6: and actually winning the game with your offense.

2263
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 5: Which is why I'm not really yeah, you know that's

2264
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 5: my feeling. Again, it doesn't mean it's the way that

2265
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 5: Robert Kraft is thinking, but that's why I want to

2266
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 5: move on.

2267
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 7: Is there a world where Bill Belichick becomes president of

2268
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 7: Football Operations and it's.

2269
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 4: Kind of here, he stays here.

2270
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 7: It's entitled well, but it's a title'ssioner of the p LL.

2271
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 6: I feel like, no, I mean, just is there a

2272
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 6: strains as a coach though?

2273
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 7: Right, like totally, I'm just this is one thing we

2274
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 7: haven't talked about at all of a potential move where

2275
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 7: he kind of stays here but he doesn't really have

2276
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 7: any direct impact anymore.

2277
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: President emeritus. I don't see the parent.

2278
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 5: Even the biggest Belichick fans would say that he struggles

2279
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 5: in the draft lately, but he's just the president to

2280
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 5: be in charge of say that he'll.

2281
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: Be the Hall of Fame archivist.

2282
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 5: And what's he doing? What's he doing?

2283
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2284
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 6: Now if he's coaching.

2285
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 7: See this is like rubbed everybody so wrong that I'm like,

2286
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 7: this could be what it is. This is going to

2287
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,719
Speaker 7: be the thing that makes no one happy.

2288
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: What if he becomes Mayo's Ernie Adams?

2289
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, why would he do that?

2290
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Director of research? He's not going to do it.

2291
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 7: And football history, so, like you say, roll them on

2292
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 7: Fridays just to give a little swary lesson.

2293
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 5: So you can't kid with me like that because.

2294
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: It just ever starts getting really nervous.

2295
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 5: What do you? Where is this coming from? Now?

2296
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back.

2297
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 5: To the phone. Strange days.

2298
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 1: Indeed, Kendall's in North Carolina. What's up, Kendall?

2299
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 18: What's going on?

2300
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: All right?

2301
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 19: That's good.

2302
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 18: I got one quick, christ I just became a fan

2303
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 18: of this.

2304
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Year or so? Where you been?

2305
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 5: Sorry, I've been out man.

2306
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 10: Well I'm not familiar with I all see the schedule,

2307
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 10: so would the last week of theater until training camp.

2308
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 18: But we go year round.

2309
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: Oh no, once the season is over, we go twice

2310
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: a week Tuesday, Tuesdays and Thursdays at noon.

2311
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 17: Okay, so y'all COVID to combound.

2312
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you stay with us. We will

2313
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: be hearing all of it every step of the way.

2314
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 5: I'll come say hi, are you are you working out?

2315
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 18: Sir?

2316
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:00,799
Speaker 5: I was, I was sorry.

2317
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:01,839
Speaker 1: Have you been invited?

2318
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 5: Are you working out?

2319
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 9: No?

2320
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 18: I have my own podcast whatnot and with the media,

2321
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 18: so I get to go to the combat.

2322
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2323
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 4: We'll be there.

2324
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean every step of the way. Will be there, more.

2325
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 5: Than likely to be there, right, Yeah, we will be there.

2326
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 4: Better be there.

2327
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shrine involved in all your little meetings pro days.

2328
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 5: You're talking about it again this morning. Thank god.

2329
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 10: I appreciate it.

2330
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks Kendall.

2331
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, we signed you up for the pro day

2332
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 4: at Washington.

2333
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna go out. I'm going to go out

2334
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 6: to Washington watch Michael Penix. Michael penis apparently going to

2335
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl. Actually, I don't know if you will

2336
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 6: if they win the Natty.

2337
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: But I can see Paul going up to listen. I

2338
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 1: played quarterback at every and I'm a lefty, so I

2339
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: just want.

2340
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 4: To go over and get you. I get you.

2341
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 5: Do you feel disrespected, like I always just a little bit.

2342
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 4: Wasn't my a c l it was my achilles?

2343
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 6: But you know, serious though, if they do draft Michael Penix,

2344
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 6: one of the most fun things that for me is, Okay,

2345
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 6: now we have to flip everything, right, Like if you're

2346
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 6: going to bootleg, now you're bootlegging the other direction, or

2347
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 6: if you're gonna like does the.

2348
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: View for all twenty two change? You put the camera

2349
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 1: on the other side.

2350
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole thing is backward.

2351
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 6: It's like it's you know, you talk about the passing

2352
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 6: strength is usually to the quarterback's arm side of the

2353
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 6: of the play right, So now you got to flip everything.

2354
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: So we need a right tackle to get a backup

2355
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: who's also a lefty?

2356
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 6: Or do you that's a good question, fret.

2357
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2358
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 6: We'll have to ask, all right, Ben Johnson, Tebow, Timper's

2359
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 6: in charge. Yeah, willing get into existence.

2360
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: I looks.

2361
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 7: Can I just say one thing though, like everything, every

2362
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 7: little bit and there's only been a handful, but every

2363
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 7: little bit that you've heard about Ben Johnson.

2364
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 5: Is that he's a big a hole And like I

2365
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 5: just f we got to get another This is what

2366
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 5: we're gonna hear. For those of us that are not

2367
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 5: familiar with anything other than the fact that he yelled

2368
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 5: at somebody in a middle school plate, what.

2369
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 7: Else is he wants to have him a lot of money,

2370
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 7: you know, getting out there that he's he's ten million,

2371
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 7: fifty fifteen million plus.

2372
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 5: Okay, those two I just said.

2373
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 4: They were only a few.

2374
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 5: That's not I mean I do too.

2375
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, how do you make it known?

2376
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would make my salary. If I was like

2377
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 5: a commodity on the open market, I would make it

2378
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 5: known what I was looking for.

2379
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, sounds like we got a Ben Johnson face. Sounds

2380
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: like it's another apologist.

2381
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I don't know. If you've been listening all year,

2382
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 5: how much.

2383
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 6: Do you think the enemy is gonna make?

2384
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, how much do you think he wants?

2385
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

2386
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I'd be interested in the enemy,

2387
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 6: you know, I'd be interested in the enemy. I think, like,

2388
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 6: we're we're gonna do this on catch twenty two eventually,

2389
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 6: Like pairing these quarterbacks with certain offensive minds I think

2390
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 6: is going to be part of the consideration. If they're

2391
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 6: really really in love with Drake May, then Ben Johnson

2392
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 6: is like, get him on the phone. Tomorrow, right, Like

2393
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 6: that's the perfect pairing for that. But if you really

2394
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 6: want to try to go after Caleb Williams, then I

2395
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 6: would hire the enemy like that.

2396
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 5: That would be I.

2397
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: Would hire the enemy. But he's got to get a

2398
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: different hat, like the Woolen hat that's tilted like that,

2399
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: wear a hood or something.

2400
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: That's when did Fred become the fashion police.

2401
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: I've always been check, its been.

2402
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,560
Speaker 9: Fashion, But to that point of forgetting these people on

2403
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 9: the phone's I feel like that's why the decision if

2404
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 9: you're gonna keep Bill or not keep it all has

2405
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 9: to be made quick because you don't want to miss

2406
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 9: out on either one of those people.

2407
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 7: It's got to be fast and you don't want the

2408
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 7: fans just clamoring for the next like three weeks that's

2409
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 7: gonna happen.

2410
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Well.

2411
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 6: You also have to mention, though, that they changed the

2412
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 6: rule this year so you can't high I do interviews

2413
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 6: with teams that are still alive until the divisional round

2414
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 6: of the playoffs. Now used to be wild card weekend,

2415
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 6: so they pushed it back a week. So guys like

2416
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson, assuming that the Lions advance out of the

2417
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 6: wild card round, you know you'd have to wait to

2418
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 6: interview guys.

2419
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 3: But the enemy you could call it, Yeah, a sap.

2420
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: It's true.

2421
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 4: Do you want the enemy?

2422
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he's available right now.

2423
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Sean's in Virginia. What's up, Sean? Got how it's going

2424
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 1: all right?

2425
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 10: Yes, I just wanted to parts about improving the team, like, uh,

2426
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 10: But I think it's interesting what one of you guys

2427
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 10: said Sunday about mortgage. Hear some picks and they basically

2428
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 10: they might have to do that in order to get

2429
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 10: the offense to where it needs to be. Because I'm

2430
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 10: looking at that, but as they actually got a guy

2431
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 10: like Marvin Harrison Jr. Then I'm looking at it how

2432
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 10: they made probably cantarget see Higgins in cre agency and

2433
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 10: so these other guys and I here also kind of

2434
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 10: about them losing different players. But just like I was

2435
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 10: hearing mister man talk, I wouldn't touch the defense side

2436
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 10: of the ball because, like I said, I think they

2437
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 10: could plug in anybody on these on that side of

2438
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 10: the ball and be good. But I would just fixtate

2439
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 10: on the offense somewhere that they would say they struggled at,

2440
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 10: which is evaluate talent offensively receivers, PIX.

2441
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Focused on when you say you can plug in anybody

2442
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball and they'll be good.

2443
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 10: Why do you say that, but because they're so good dramatically,

2444
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 10: they're so good at coaching up outside of the ball.

2445
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 10: But I feel like that, I feel I think it's

2446
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 10: throw anybody on that side of the ball.

2447
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: But what if the coaches are gone?

2448
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 10: That's my that's my point, Like I said, Like if I,

2449
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 10: like I said, if I, if they could mess somehow

2450
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 10: manage to keep the coaches, that side of the ball

2451
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 10: is not the problem. Like I would not fixed, was

2452
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 10: not broken, right, I would fixtate. I would stay fixtated

2453
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 10: on the offensive side of the ball. All we're trying

2454
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 10: to do whatever I need to do to make sure

2455
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 10: that side of the ball gets correct.

2456
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone disagrees with that. You know, and

2457
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 1: and you know. In terms of mortgaging the future, I mean,

2458
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: if it takes giving up future draft picks to get

2459
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: people you want now, I say, do it, because you

2460
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: know there's no guarantee that in the future you're going

2461
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: to get them. If you there's people that are there

2462
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 1: now that you want, go get them, right, Go get them.

2463
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 1: I'm not with that, but there's no guarantee we're gonna

2464
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: be able to address it next year. So if you

2465
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: see things that can address it, now address it.

2466
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 6: I just I've I keep saying the same thing. I

2467
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 6: just I wouldn't be the Carolina Panthers. I wouldn't be

2468
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 6: in a situation.

2469
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: But you can do it right and do it that way.

2470
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 6: I suppose you.

2471
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: Don't have to take Bryce Young.

2472
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I can't really get on them for

2473
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 6: taking Bryce Young because he's a great prospect.

2474
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so you thought he was going to be really good.

2475
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 6: I think everybody thought he was going to be really

2476
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 6: good for it, but he did. Yeah, I mean he's

2477
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 6: number one pick in the draft.

2478
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 5: I don't know anybody who was on the record. Doesn't

2479
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,759
Speaker 5: mean every other prospect.

2480
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so right, so you pick a quarterback this year,

2481
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, So waiting a year is going

2482
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 1: to make it different.

2483
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 6: No, I'm just not giving up a king's ransom to

2484
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 6: pick one player. I'm just not doing it.

2485
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: I I if you really think the guy is the guy,

2486
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: go get him, Go get him because he's not going

2487
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: to be there.

2488
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 6: Next I just think it's great to have that kind

2489
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 6: of conviction, the amount of times that that kind of

2490
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 6: conviction actually works out.

2491
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 5: I need another. I need the parameters. Like it's one

2492
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 5: thing to say I need the King's ransom, but what

2493
01:44:59,360 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 5: is the.

2494
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: King giving up? Mike Ditka, you know the Saints.

2495
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 5: I'd be more apt to do that than like the

2496
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 5: two ones, two two's and stuff that really takes to

2497
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 5: do that stuff, right if you're.

2498
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 10: Also also was a guy wanted to play it one

2499
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 10: more thing, like for example, like you know, we just

2500
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 10: saw the Bills game.

2501
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 5: We just saw the Bill game, right, Yep.

2502
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 10: The reason why those guys are able to play as

2503
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 10: aggressive as they were playing because they realized that there's

2504
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 10: somebody on the office that scares them. I mean, most

2505
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 10: things can do that because I mean, if you actually

2506
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 10: look at it, the way they're playing defensively, I don't

2507
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 10: think they playing against the Bangels with Jamar chasing those guys.

2508
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 10: I don't think they play against Miami like that.

2509
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 5: I kind of think they do what they do and.

2510
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 10: The way they playing them because there's nobody on offense

2511
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 10: that scares them.

2512
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's no question that they've they've had

2513
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 5: a lot of teams that have locked down on them.

2514
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Defense, No question, they play up. They don't worry about anything. Yep,

2515
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Sean, appreciate the call. Let's go to

2516
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Robert and Tennessee. What's up Robert?

2517
01:45:58,880 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 15: Hey, how are y'all doing?

2518
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 1: Okay?

2519
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 15: I got a couple of questions. One is I never

2520
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 15: hear any negative stuff from you all about the Belichick boys,

2521
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 15: about this Belichick son, Can you kind of give me

2522
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 15: an idea what the league feels about them? Kind of

2523
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 15: can you give me just like an idea? Are they

2524
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:17,759
Speaker 15: good coaches?

2525
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 17: Do they do a good job?

2526
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: I see, I can't.

2527
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 5: I can't.

2528
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: I can't give you an idea because I don't know.

2529
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what the league.

2530
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: We've said it before. You know, like if Steve wants

2531
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 1: to really make a name for himself, he has to

2532
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: get out from under his dad and kind of do

2533
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,560
Speaker 1: it on his own. Because right now on this team,

2534
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,839
Speaker 1: nobody has the title of defensive coordinator Gerard or Steve.

2535
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: And you know, so you don't know who's really doing

2536
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: what in this defense. It's still Bill, you know, I

2537
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know. The only thing we know for a fact

2538
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: is that Steve calls the plays.

2539
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 7: On the sideline, and that we know that, and that's

2540
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 7: got holes in both of Gerard and Steve's resume where

2541
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 7: you don't know if Steve can cut up, command a room,

2542
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 7: present a game plan, and you don't know if Gerrod

2543
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 7: can call a game, and you know, and those.

2544
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 4: Things, and that's in parts of their experience.

2545
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 1: We talked about it at the top of the show,

2546
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: and I speculated that maybe the reason why some guys

2547
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: at the after the Bills game were calling out Girod

2548
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: and I think at least one called out Steve is

2549
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: to give them some props because you know, you really

2550
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing all year, and maybe they decided, hey,

2551
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 1: let's mention these guys because they've been doing a great job,

2552
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: and you know, they don't really get mentioned, you know,

2553
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: after games, so maybe you know, that's that was just

2554
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 1: my speculation.

2555
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,799
Speaker 6: I think, you know, just talking to the players about

2556
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 6: those two. Gerard is considered to be almost like a

2557
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 6: big brother to most of the players in the locker room.

2558
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 5: You know, really a player's coach.

2559
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 15: He's got a lot of energy and charismatic and things

2560
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,759
Speaker 15: like that. I just I just never, y'all, never do trash,

2561
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 15: But that seems to be very popular of like, can

2562
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 15: we get a coach in here and not just have

2563
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 15: his son do it? But I don't think they're doing

2564
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 15: I can't really tell what they're doing, but they don't

2565
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 15: think like they're doing a horrible job.

2566
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: No, I think I think. I agree, I think they're

2567
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: doing collectively, they're doing a good job.

2568
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 5: I mean I would also say that, like, you know,

2569
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 5: Evan watches the film and he breaks down the games,

2570
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 5: and I quite often you said it twice today, I've

2571
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 5: heard you be critical of the play calling and that's Steve. Yeah.

2572
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 6: I think on defense, the defensive play call, Steve is

2573
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 6: a good play caller for the most part. I think

2574
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 6: he falls into two traps. One one, he gets a

2575
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 6: little bit too aggressive when he doesn't need to be aggressive,

2576
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 6: Like Colin covers zero. I'm sorry, but it's first and

2577
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 6: ten at the Buffalo thirty six yard line. They haven't

2578
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 6: driven the ball on your defense all day long, and

2579
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 6: you call an all out blitz with all this space

2580
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 6: for Kyle dugger to cover Dalton Kincaid and he gets

2581
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 6: beat for fifty one yard catch, Like is that?

2582
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2583
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 6: Could Kyle Duggar have covered the play a little bit better?

2584
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 6: Or could they have obviously or could they have gotten there? Sure,

2585
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 6: But I hated the call the third down play on

2586
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 6: the final drive of the game.

2587
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 5: For Buffalo.

2588
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 6: They're playing man to man on third down the entire game,

2589
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 6: So on that down he called cover two and they're

2590
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 6: the middle of the field wide open for Khaliol security

2591
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 6: to just catch like a little dump off from Josh Josh.

2592
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 5: That play bugged me because I just would have thought, like, Okay,

2593
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 5: I've watched a lot of Buffalo, this is where the

2594
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 5: only way Buffalo's getting this is if Josh Allen does

2595
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 5: a Superman and breaks three tackles and gets the first down.

2596
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 5: And to have him just get the snap and as

2597
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 5: easily as that, yeah, throw an easy pass that anybody

2598
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 5: could have completed, was like eye opening, especially on a

2599
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 5: day where I felt like the Page's defense played pretty well.

2600
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 5: I just thought situationally, they really let him down.

2601
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 6: To Buffalo's credit, they had the perfect play call on

2602
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 6: for the zone that the Patriots played. They had, you know,

2603
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 6: Kincaid run through the shoot and clear out the middle

2604
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 6: of the field and then Shakura just filled it in

2605
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 6: underneath and it was just wide open. But I just

2606
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 6: they kind of disguised it in the back end and

2607
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 6: made it look like man pre snap and then they

2608
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 6: fell into cover two post snap. And I think that

2609
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,839
Speaker 6: was one play where he probably just out foxed himself,

2610
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 6: you know, he was trying to out fox Josh Allen

2611
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 6: and give him a different one.

2612
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 5: Well, and maybe that's you know, maybe unfair because on

2613
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 5: a day where I think he more than more often

2614
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 5: than not outfox the Bills.

2615
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, what about Brian Belichick.

2616
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: That's another one.

2617
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 5: He was hurt, you know, sounds he missed he started

2618
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 5: on pup.

2619
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he missed like the first I don't know, five

2620
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: or six games because he did have an accident in

2621
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: the offseason where he couldn't be here. But I've always

2622
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: looked at him as a smart kid. I remember seeing

2623
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 1: him when he was just a little kid walking around

2624
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: with a clipboard, following his dad around, taking notes like

2625
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,679
Speaker 1: he grew up at his father's knee, and I gotta

2626
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: imagine some of that rubbed off on him. I'll bet

2627
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: you he's got a future too.

2628
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 6: On game to he's up in the coach's box Robert

2629
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 6: and he he's he's charting the plays and then he

2630
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 6: radios down to Steve and talks to Steve about how

2631
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 6: the game is declaring right, like, this is what they're

2632
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 6: trying to do to us. These are the plays that

2633
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 6: we can see from the bird's eye view a little

2634
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 6: bit better than maybe you can see on the sideline.

2635
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 6: So I would say Brian is a really like detail

2636
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 6: oriented guy, like he's got that from his dad, where

2637
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 6: Like he can see formations and concepts and like be

2638
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 6: able to script those and write those down. Whereas I

2639
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:26,719
Speaker 6: think Steve is a pretty good, like broad, big picture

2640
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 6: X's and O's type of guy, which is why I

2641
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 6: think he's, you know, a pretty good play caller.

2642
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:32,879
Speaker 1: Take him as a package.

2643
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 7: If they were on the offensive side of the ball,

2644
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 7: I think, you know, you might get more of what

2645
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 7: the caller is looking for.

2646
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 4: But it's like, how do you rail on them? I mean,

2647
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 4: play call, sure, but I don't think you guys never

2648
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 4: rail on them and.

2649
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 5: Say we never criticize them. What exactly do they do?

2650
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,560
Speaker 5: I think I don't, But we don't criticize anybody on

2651
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 5: offense either, And I think and I think they're having

2652
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 5: a miserable year.

2653
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: No, we criticize people on offense. Are you kids?

2654
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 5: Troy Brown? Okay, I'll just speak for myself coach.

2655
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like not talking about the coaches,

2656
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 1: the defensive line and you know, yeah.

2657
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what they're what they do. Like I

2658
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,719
Speaker 5: don't know if Billy Yates is any good. I don't

2659
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 5: the evidence suggested.

2660
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2661
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 5: I mean, but I think you can look and easily

2662
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 5: fall into the trap of oh, the wide receiver coach

2663
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 5: of Minnesota must be really good, because Justin Jefferson is

2664
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 5: like the greatest wide receiver I've ever seen. I don't

2665
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 5: know if he's any good, just like the Patriots wide

2666
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 5: receivers are not very good. Is that because Troy Brown stinks?

2667
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 7: I don't know, no, but I but I would say,

2668
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 7: like the defense has been generally pretty good, and we

2669
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 7: have definitely talked about Toroy Brown and the issues of

2670
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 7: the coaching and the offensive line, and you know, with

2671
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,680
Speaker 7: any Cincerian, I mean, those things have come up, not

2672
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 7: to say that they get put in the cross theirs.

2673
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 7: So the defense has been pretty good, the safeties have

2674
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 7: been pretty good.

2675
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 5: The special teams. You are correct. I have been that

2676
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 5: you are right when I'm wrong, I have to say

2677
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, you are right. I have criticized Joe Judge.

2678
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 9: To have multiple people coaching special teams and they still

2679
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 9: be this bad is not good.

2680
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 4: To change it.

2681
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 6: I ask a lot of questions about the coaching staff

2682
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 6: because I think that there's so little information that Bill

2683
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 6: puts out about what these guys do, and the roles

2684
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 6: and responsibilities are so blurred, and anytime you ever ask

2685
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 6: him about it, it's like, well, it's a team effort.

2686
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 6: It's a team effort. Everybody plays a role, the YadA

2687
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 6: YadA YadA.

2688
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 5: So it makes it difficult.

2689
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 6: And I just think, you know, the guys that have

2690
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 6: straints obviously, and you know, on the defensive side of

2691
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 6: the ball, I would say, you know, Mayo, Covington, Pellegrino,

2692
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 6: those guys are really good at coaching technique coaching. You know,

2693
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 6: put your hand here instead of there, and it's going

2694
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 6: to be you know, that sort of thing. And then

2695
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 6: you have like kind of the big picture guys like Steve,

2696
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 6: who are more of like the seeing the forest, and

2697
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,680
Speaker 6: I think that everybody does have an individual role in

2698
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 6: that respect. And you know, Gerard is really good at

2699
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 6: watching film and seeing like all right, you know this

2700
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 6: guy likes to do this type of thing or you know,

2701
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 6: that type of thing. Because he played, so he can

2702
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,799
Speaker 6: look at it and see where guys look uncomfortable versus

2703
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 6: So I think that that's you know, why it works

2704
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 6: in a lot of ways on that side of the

2705
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 6: ball is because everybody has their strengths. You know, Steve's

2706
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 6: not really as much of like a raw ra gay

2707
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 6: up and in front of the room type of guy.

2708
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 6: But gerad Is is somebody that can carry your room

2709
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 6: and can demand attention. So it ends up working out.

2710
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan and Connecticut. I got to shake hands with

2711
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Paul this Friday night.

2712
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 5: I would remember that PAULI.

2713
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 1: I was a little star struck, to say the least.

2714
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: I had to explain to my girlfriend that Paul is

2715
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 1: the one on the radio who likes to argue and

2716
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: drink diet pepsi all the time.

2717
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 3: Oh wait, so was this on a Christmas on the Christmas.

2718
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 5: On the trolley? Absolutely, I think it was off the

2719
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 5: trolley at the time.

2720
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh I thought you were doing an appearance.

2721
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, eat and greet. This was what

2722
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 5: led to my my infamous tweet.

2723
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 1: With one more regular season game to go, do you

2724
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 1: have any opinions on what will happen with DeMarcus Covington.

2725
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 1: With Mayo ahead of Covington in the pecking order, it

2726
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: would seem like his have to defensive coordinator could be

2727
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: blocked in New England. He also he made it as

2728
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 1: an honorable mention in Pelli Sero's article about future NFL

2729
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: head coaches back in November.

2730
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we talked a little bit about him.

2731
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

2732
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 7: I mean, he might be the right guy that's kind

2733
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 7: of out of the crosshairs a little bit, but I

2734
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 7: think he's a really talented coach. I just I mean,

2735
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 7: I guess my only concern with him would just be

2736
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 7: I mean, certainly he's coached the defensive line. He understands

2737
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 7: the front, but so much goes into the secondary and

2738
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 7: and coordinating that, and I think that's a really big

2739
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 7: piece of the puzzle with the next thing.

2740
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 5: It all depends on what happens. I think it's it's

2741
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 5: I know it sounds like a cop out, but when

2742
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 5: you don't know exactly who the next coach is gonna be,

2743
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 5: Like if if Bill's here, you know, you could definitely

2744
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 5: see him maybe trying to get himself out there and

2745
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator interviews. But if Bill leaves a he might

2746
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to stay here as defensive coordinator, and

2747
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 5: if not, then definitely he's going to be on the

2748
01:55:56,480 --> 01:56:00,879
Speaker 5: circuit for defensive coordinator openings because they, I mean, everybody

2749
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,839
Speaker 5: fixates on the head coach openings, there will be openings

2750
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 5: with the coordinators as well.

2751
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2752
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,839
Speaker 6: I think he deserves a lot of credit though, because

2753
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 6: the defensive line has been by far the best position

2754
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 6: group on the the run defense is like without question, Yeah,

2755
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 6: and those guys are developing, like Christian Barmore has taken

2756
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 6: a huge leap. But I think Kean White's getting better

2757
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 6: here later in the year. Anthony Jennings has stepped right

2758
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 6: in, and that's one of his guys. As he told me

2759
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 6: that I didn't know anything, and then Anthony Jenks meets

2760
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 6: with him.

2761
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, those guys, all those.

2762
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 6: Guys have played above expectations.

2763
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 5: That's true.

2764
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you later.

2765
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 1: So I'm looking for a little inside information. We're all

2766
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 1: talking about Bill and whether or not he might come.

2767
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 5: Back or not allowed to share.

2768
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: We don't really know, but Paul, you might have some

2769
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: inside information. What's the deal with Hardy? Is he coming

2770
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: back next year with us.

2771
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 5: To be determined. Oh so he has not No, okay,

2772
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 5: he hasn't completely shut the door, and he would very

2773
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 5: much be interested in Like he got mad because Mike

2774
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 5: and I was sort of like wishing him well and

2775
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 5: he's like whoa Like I said, well, you know that

2776
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 5: Fred told you you have this job for life if

2777
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 5: you want it. I did, And he's like, oh oh oh, well,

2778
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 5: uh you know how he likes to work it like, well, Fred,

2779
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 5: anything to make.

2780
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we see how many night games there are.

2781
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 5: So my guess is we will be looking for a

2782
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 5: new host because it's going to be too much too.

2783
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 1: Well, that was my assumption. But I don't want to

2784
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 1: I have.

2785
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 5: Some I have. I've got some thoughts that I can

2786
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 5: share with you off air. Okay, all right, I have

2787
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 5: a king that I could be making as usual.

2788
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well listen, I just thought i'd close

2789
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: that off for people to think about.

2790
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 4: It's another big thing for the weekend, though Fred's.

2791
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 6: Some say it's the biggest last of all.

2792
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 5: This will be known as the Hardy game.

2793
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 3: This might be the Slater game, could be the slater game.

2794
01:57:56,720 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 5: That man talk to David Andrew. Seems like everybody's like

2795
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 5: I don't know last year you might know a little something,

2796
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 5: you guys, afraid he'd be afraid to share with the

2797
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 5: rest of the class.

2798
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 4: It just looks so exhausted from this season.

2799
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 7: Like I just I just wonder at a certain point,

2800
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 7: and I don't know, as a professional athlete, you put

2801
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 7: it on the line every week and so much goes

2802
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 7: into it is you know what points you just say, you.

2803
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 5: Know what, that's right, high high level.

2804
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 7: But but you know it's I mean, it was funny

2805
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 7: just even seeing him and bergeron talk and how like

2806
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 7: they were, you know, personally, he's like you you stay

2807
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 7: here this long, like Burgeon comp believe the hours of

2808
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 7: a football team and it's a lot, and he's won

2809
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 7: championships and he's gotten beat up and he's got a

2810
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 7: young family, and you know, I don't know, I just

2811
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 7: it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me that he doesn't want

2812
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 7: to stick around for a whole new thing.

2813
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: All Right, that's gonna do it for this edition of

2814
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow at noon. Mark calls

2815
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:51,280
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