1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. All Right, 2 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: welcome to ot A week One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, 3 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Maddie lab in for Steve Tasker, who is still doing 4 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: charity golf on a Monday, golf with charity golf on 5 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Friday and now again on Monday. He's got it good. 6 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: Don't worry Tasker. 7 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm here to say the least. But we got Maddie 8 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: here with us today, just as we did on Friday, 9 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: and OTAs are underway here at One Bill's Drive. Players 10 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: getting out on the field today. They will do the 11 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: same tomorrow when there is media availability, so we'll have 12 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: wal to wall coverage of that, not only on Buffalo 13 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: bills dot Com, but right here on the show. And 14 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott schedule to address the media tomorrow late 15 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: in the morning, so we'll have all the nuts and 16 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: bolts from that too. Before we get into more of that, 17 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: we both had let's just say, some interesting weekends. 18 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: Mattie, easy weekends. 19 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: So let's kick it off with Saturday, which looked a 20 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: little dicey for a while for you because you're down 21 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: in the Elmwood village and you had porch Fest going on. 22 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Maybe just explain first what that is to those that 23 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: may not know. 24 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: So Porch Fest is so much fun. This was my 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: second time going and I. 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: Look forward to it every spring, summer, whatever you want 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: to call this time. 28 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: I guess it's really spring in Buffalo because it got 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: cold on Saturday night, so it was during the day. 30 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: On set Saturday, you can if you have a porch 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: in front of your house or a nice patch of 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: grass in front of your house, you can put in 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: to have a band play on your porch, so they 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: call it porch Fest. It's all across Elmwood Villages and 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: then also restaurants and shops can also have bands play 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: in front of their stores, and you kind of just 37 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: walk around the neighborhood and you go see from. 38 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Band to band to band to band. 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: So we kind of hop around the entire neighborhood watching 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: bands play. And we have a friend who also works 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: for the Bills, who plays in a band and we 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: love going to see him play. 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: But it was raining on Saturday morning. 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: Bands started I think around noon, so we didn't really 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: get out of the house until three when the rain stopped. 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: So we went to two bands and then by the 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: time the second band ended, it was about six o'clock 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: and I was thinking to myself, I could use a 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 3: winter jacket right now. 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: It got really cold on Saturday night. 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people who were out and 52 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: about kind of thought that as well, because the sun 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: started to peek out a little bit and in the 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: late afternoon I was like, Okay, this is not too bad. 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: It's in the fifties, but the sun's out. It's it's good. 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: And then the sun went away and it was pretty 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: pretty cold, but fun day. 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: I have a question about Porchest, having never attended. Are 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: the bands far enough away from one another where there 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: isn't like bleed over from one to the other. How 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: did they? 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Yes and no, Yes and no. 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: So last year we went to I can't remember what 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: street it was, but we were on a street that 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: had two bands playing across the street from each other, 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: so like like fifty feet away from each other, and 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: you could hear both bands depending on where you were standing. 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: If you're in the street, you could hear both. If 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: you're near one of the houses, you can mostly hear 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: that band. But for the most part, it's far enough 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: away from each other to where people are bleeding into 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:02,559 Speaker 3: each other. The sound of the bands aren't clash, but 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: it happens. Yeah, it's a fun time. Everybody's out. And 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: about last year it was incredible weather. This year not 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: so much. But by the time we got out in 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: the afternoon, there were a lot of people walking around. 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the weather turned late afternoon, thankfully, because it 78 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: was a soaker for a while there Saturday morning. I mean, 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: like I was just come up. I know, it hadn't 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: rained in two weeks, so we really can't complain. But 81 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: that was a soaker for sure. And then on Sunday 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: you got much better weather, thankfully when you were out 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: at the final round of the PGA. 84 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was out at the last day of the 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: PGA Championship in Rochester, which has been fun to be out. 86 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: I was out there on. 87 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: Tuesday for an event that a few of our players 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: were a part of. I know a lot of people 89 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: were out there on Saturday and had to bear and 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: be in that rain. 91 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: So kudos to all you guys who were. 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: Out there on Saturday and still had a fun day. 93 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: I saw a lot of pictures of people running through 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: the mud and sliding through the mud, and in p 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: shows and you know, doing it being out there in 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: the wild, in the rain and still having a great time. 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 3: We got blessed with some incredible weather on Sunday and 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: spent the entire day out there. So had an early 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: morning and got to the course at like eight in 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: the morning, so right before right when everybody started to 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: tee off and got to kind of follow a few players, 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: didn't really follow too many guys. We had a kind 103 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: of a club that we were sitting in, so watched 104 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: a lot of guys come through on six there, and 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: then walked a little bit around four, five and six 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: in the afternoon, and then once the leaders started to 107 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: come through, because there are two times, were in the 108 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: afternoon around two o'clock two thirty, so we kind of followed. 109 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: We had a friend with us who is a big 110 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 3: fan of Brooks Koepka, and so we started to follow 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: Brooks for the last few holes, which Brooks won it all. 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: So it was fun to be with our friend who 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: loves Brooks Kopka and got to see his reaction of 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: Brooks winning it all. But there were so many people 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: there and I'm sure everybody listening as well. Thought, you know, 116 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: you've got so many friends out here. You've got so 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: many people you know out here. We were running into 118 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people, ran into Eric Wood, ran into 119 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: a bunch of. 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 2: People who worked for the Bills or the Sabers. 121 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: So it was just a wonderful Sunday afternoon to be 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: out in a beautiful place. Oak Hill did a fantastic 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: job with the tournament. It was so fun seeing some 124 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: Bills shirt some jerseys in the crowd as well on 125 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: fifteen when Brooks I think Brooks was on fifteen at 126 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: this point, but we kind of hung out at fifteen 127 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: for a while, watched some groups go through and there 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: was a hey that broke out and somebody was like, 129 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: come on, guys, we're better than this. 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: It was like, no, let them have it. Nobody's nobody's 131 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: golfing right now. 132 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: This is pure Western New York goodness that some people 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: are experiencing. Who came in from out of town to 134 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: watch this tournament and to get to be a part 135 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: of everything going on. Oh Man, Michael Block, that story 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: was fantastic. 137 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: It was. 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: It was so fun to follow a guy like that, 139 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: a club pro who who qualified for this tournament. It 140 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: was his fifth PGA and he's never made the weekend before. 141 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: He was one of twenty club pros to be a 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: part of the tournament, but he was the only one 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 3: to make the thirty six hole cut and he hold 144 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: it in on fifteen. I think it was from like 145 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty one yards out. 146 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: One of my friends was at the hole. 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: I know a lot of Bill's people were at this 148 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: hole because that was another area that we had some 149 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: passes for, and they said it was an incredible experience 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: watching that happen. It was so cool to see a 151 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: guy like this, just a club pro from California. The 152 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: video that came out on Saturday, he was paired with 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: Justin Rose on Saturday Sunday finds out or Saturday night 154 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: finds out he's gonna be paired with Rory McElroy. That 155 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: video came out and kind of went viral on social media. 156 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: He was all excited to be paired with a golfer 157 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: like Rory and then went out and had a hole 158 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: in one on fifteen. On the final day, he finishes 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: in the top fifteen, so this locks him in for 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: next year. He made over three hundred thousand dollars finishing 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: the top fifteen fifteen. The most money that he's made 162 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: next to that is seventy five K. So this was 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: a big weekend for him. I mean a lot of 164 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: people probably saw the interviews that he did after he 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: was in tears. 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: I would be too. 167 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: The sport means so much to him and these are 168 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: the stories that I absolutely love as a sports fan. 169 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: Getting to see something like this come together. 170 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, believe he hit it like he was if 171 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: you saw the video. 172 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: Run and the people making the call didn't know it either. 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: There is one of the one of the analysts was like, 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: I don't think it went in. The others like, yeah, 175 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: that's in. Yeah, dunked it in on fifteen. 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: So you have only seen that like one other time ever. 177 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: That is like super and for somebody shot and for 178 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: somebody like him to be able to do that, I mean, 179 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: he got a lot of one of us, one of us. 180 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: And a lot of people are just cheering Black Block. 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: The coolest social video I saw on the heels of that, 182 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: somebody had video footage of his club where they were 183 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: all watching him at the bar. Yeah, that was watched 184 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: people like Bills pas Bar on a Sunday, like on 185 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: a game winning play, the shot goes down and the 186 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: whole place erupts, like for a minute and a half, 187 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: they're like jump. I mean they probably had a few 188 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: in him. Yeah, they were rolling. 189 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: He was tied for eighth going into the final day 190 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: and and because of that. 191 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: He qualifies for the PGA Championships, so he gets play 192 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: next year. 193 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: He gets play next year since he finished top top fifteen, 194 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: that locks him into next year. And then after the 195 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: tournament was over, after he finished his day, a lot 196 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: of celebration. I mean, he was right next to Brooks 197 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: as Brooks was getting awarded, and then they were letting 198 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: him know he was the winner, and everybody's you know, 199 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: crowd eighteen and celebrating, and Michael Block was right there 200 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: next to him and was doing interviews as well, and 201 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: people were cheering for him. So that I don't know, 202 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: as a sports fan. 203 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: You just I love stories like that. It's easy to 204 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: root for the underdog. It was so cool. 205 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: And then afterward he got a call from I don't 206 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: know who exactly it was, but he got a call 207 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: from somebody running next week's PGA Tour event in Texas. 208 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: It's the Charles Schwab Challenge, So he got a call 209 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: to be invited out to that. 210 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: He also got invited to the RBC Canadian Open, So 211 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: he's like the soup d jure right now. 212 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm I'm a Michael Block fan now for now? 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: So who is it? 214 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: Who is it? 215 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: That one in a million shots? 216 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: So that was a really fun story throughout the weekend 217 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: for everybody who was following, for everybody who is there 218 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: to get to witness something like that, how can you 219 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: not cheer for him? 220 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 221 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: That was really cool. So my weekend wasn't as action 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: packed as yours was, as we told you on from show. 223 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, Maddy had this packed weekend Porchfast followed by 224 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: PGA Championship. I had a meat raffle Friday night, which 225 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: is really a Buffalo institution if you think about it. 226 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: This one was for Literacy Buffalo Niagara. Great cause my 227 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: wife's on the board. So we've got a table and 228 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: so you know, we've got some friends with us and 229 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: we're all ready to roll and we are not doing well. 230 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: We you know, we're buying tickets and was it? 231 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: Was it a busy meat raffle? Like do you think 232 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: you guys weren't doing well? 233 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Because there were a lot of people at that meat 234 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: raffle or just hockey. 235 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: If I had to guess, there were probably two hundred 236 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: people there. 237 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: That's pretty much pretty big. 238 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, about twenty tables to ten people. So it was hoppin'. 239 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was a hop in place. We had 240 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: this group next to us. They have the sticks with 241 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: clips on the end to hold up their money for 242 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: each round to buy a ticket, and they've got rubber 243 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: dog toys on them with like a a rubber steak. 244 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: They've got a rubber pig, a rubber chicken. Like these 245 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: people are like they're on the meat raff they're on 246 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the circuit. So I probably should have taken more notes 247 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: from Le tour judiciousness in buying tickets. But anyway, we 248 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: are getting skunked. Our table hasn't won a thing, and 249 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: we're about halfway through the thing and they take a 250 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: break and that's when they announced door prizes. So they 251 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: had like four or five baskets kind of like the 252 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: kind you'd see at a basket raffle. And we had, 253 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, bought a sheet of tickets and we threw 254 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: some stuff in there, not thinking anything of it. And 255 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: so our table has we have won nothing to this point. 256 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: So they do the door prizes bing. Our number hits, 257 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: so my wife's all excited. She goes run enough to 258 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: grab it. What did we win? No, we win the 259 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: bills basket round the bill's baskets. So now people are 260 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: laughing because they're like, of all the things you won, 261 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: you want a bill's bad, which was great, I mean, 262 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: don't get me. We were happy to win because it 263 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: included two tickets too, to a game that was really cool. Well, 264 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: we're always you know, we're always getting asked and sometimes 265 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: sometimes we let people use our tickets, but you know, 266 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: it's they're in demand now, so having an extra pair 267 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: is helpful. But in any event, that's what we won. 268 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: And then my brother and sister in law were late. 269 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: So we're about halfway through this thing and my brother 270 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: and sister in law show up and again the root 271 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: the table has been skunked. We haven't won a we 272 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: haven't won a piece of bacon, we've won nothing. They 273 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: sit down, they buy their first set of tickets for 274 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: around like eight bing. They hit right, and so we're like, unbelievable. 275 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: They just got here and they won something. So they 276 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: go up, they collect their thing. But that was the key. 277 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: It got us on a hot streak. And I would 278 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: say before the night was over, three other people at 279 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: our table had won. So that made me feel better 280 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: because you know, you're you're inviting people to come, hey, 281 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: have fun at the meat rapp you don't win anything. 282 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of tough. Yeah, so I think almost everybody 283 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: won something, so and those are fun. It's a couple 284 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: of Bill's hats, a couple of bills sweatry. It was 285 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: pretty funny though, I like, I was like, which one 286 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: did we get? 287 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: And she comes back he got the bills bag. 288 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: It was hilarious, but it was a good time. We 289 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun, so that was good. And 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: the irony of that was was kind of funny. I 291 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: don't have I don't know what it is. I don't 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of luck at meat raffles because I 293 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: told you the other one I went to was a 294 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: stick of pepperoni. I gotta I was happy though. One 295 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: of our guys at the table, you want a gigantic 296 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: pork loin the thing is like he said he's gonna 297 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: cook it up for July fourth because he always hosts 298 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: on July fourth, So that was good, But yeah, it 299 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: was a good time. I just had to laugh at 300 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: that and had to bring in the that was pretty funny. 301 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: OT a week it is, and we will get into 302 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: what our topic of discussion is because now is the 303 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: time where we start thinking about the roster a little 304 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: bit more. But is the roster set in stone? I 305 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: think we all know the answer to that is no. 306 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: And I think we also know that Brandon Bean is 307 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: a tinkerer. He is always trying to massage the roster, 308 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: even when the popular times on the calendar to adjust 309 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: your roster free agency draft are long gone. He's always 310 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: talking about that. Even when we have him for the 311 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: pre draft press conferences, Mattie, he says, just because the 312 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: draft is over doesn't mean the roster set. He's always 313 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: trying to tinker and make things a little bit better. 314 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: So we thought with OTA's starting up, it was apropos 315 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: to ask you, what position in your mind do you 316 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: think still might need a little bit of tweaking and 317 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: tell us why. Eight oh three five fifty the number 318 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: to get on board one eight eight eight five point 319 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: fifty two five point fifty the toll free calling number 320 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: if you're outside the seven one six calling area, because 321 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: we've seen Bean do this like many sometimes June, but 322 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: even like right before training camp, during training camp, during 323 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: the preseason games, and then even after final cuts. You know, 324 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: some other team clips a guy that you had your 325 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: eye on, maybe back in May, and you didn't get them. 326 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, we're kind of asking you, 327 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: if you're the GM, if you're Brandon Bean for a day, 328 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: what position might you want to tweak a little bit, 329 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: So you guys chew on that for a while, and 330 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Maddy and I'll get our thoughts on that as well, 331 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: probably in the second segment, because it's time for us 332 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: to go around the NFL, which is brought to you 333 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: by Colida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. 334 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: We have more current news, but I think we would 335 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: be remiss, Maddie if we didn't at least mention that 336 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: over the weekend we saw the passing of maybe one 337 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: of the best players in the history of the game, 338 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Jim Brown, passing away over the weekend at age eighty seven, 339 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: obviously a Hall of Famer and considered even now one 340 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: of the best players to ever play the game. Yes, 341 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: he retired early to take on a movie career. I 342 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: guess if he played his full career, he'd be his 343 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: numbers would be even more breathtaking because nobody beat his 344 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: rushing record, which was set back in the late sixties 345 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: until Walter Payton did it in the mid eighties. I mean, 346 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: it took a full generation of players, and Walter Payton, 347 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: who's my favorite player of all time, had to play 348 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: like six more seasons than Jim Brown to rack up 349 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: the same rushing totals. So just an amazing, amazing player, 350 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: an amazing athlete, and the fact that he is a 351 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Long Island native. Maddie I was made aware of who 352 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Jim Brown was at a very early age. And as 353 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, my high school played against his 354 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: high school. Oh yeah, so just a really cool thing. 355 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: So playing high school basketball, I played in the same 356 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: gym that he played in his number is up on 357 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: the wall his basketball jersey's retired. And then playing lacrosse 358 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: in the spring, I played on the same lacrosse field 359 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: as Jim Brown. And the only reason I knew that 360 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: was right at midfield, just off the sideline, there is 361 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: this giant bust of Jim Brown at Manhasset High School 362 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: on Long Island because a lot of people on Long 363 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Island will tell you that Jim Brown was an even 364 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: better lacrosse player than he was a football player. Just 365 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: completely unstoppable guy on the lacrosse field. I mean, at 366 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: six three, two hundred and fifty pounds, like, you really 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: can't check the guy, keep him from scoring. He just 368 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: bowls you over and goes in and scores. Because I 369 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: think if memory service, he did play some lacrosse at 370 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Syracuse as well in addition to playing football. But yeah, 371 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: just an absolute legend and a big time social activist 372 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: too through the sixties there, you know, with civil rights 373 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: and everything. He was a big backer Muhammad Ali. 374 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Yep. 375 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, just an unfortunate loss. But that's a pretty 376 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good life. Eighty seven, I know, I'll 377 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: be happy. Yeah. 378 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: I saw a picture that got tweeted out of him 379 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: and Muhammad Ali going for a run together. And when 380 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: you see two big name people like that, and it's 381 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: just a moment frozen in time. 382 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: I thought that was so cool to be around. 383 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: People like that, To to be as big of a 384 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: name as somebody like Muhammad Ali, to to be involved 385 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: in some of the things that Muhammad Ali was and 386 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: and the activism side of things. You know, that's what 387 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: you want to you want to get remembered for things 388 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: like that. Of course, he had an incredible NFL career 389 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: and has some crazy numbers from the years that he 390 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: played with the Browns. But to be remembered and to 391 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: have your legend or your name live on for things 392 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: other than football, I think is always so cool. 393 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. And he was a big backer, Muhammad Ali when 394 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: he was you know, trying to avoid getting you know, 395 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: going into the draft for Vietnam. So yeah, I mean 396 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: did as much off the field as he did on 397 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: and continued that well into his eighties. So yeah, a 398 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: life well lived for sure. As they say other stuff, 399 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: we have owners' meetings going on right now as we 400 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: speak up in Minnesota, and among the things that are 401 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: going to be decided at the spring league meeting today 402 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: and tomorrow, they're going to decide on a new rule, 403 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: Mattie that would place all kickoff fair catches at the 404 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: twenty five yard line. That doesn't happen terribly often, but 405 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: if it does, they're going to treat it like a 406 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: touchback on a kickoff, put it at the twenty five, 407 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: which would kind of remove if you think about it, 408 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: because you saw the Bills do this last year, Maddie. 409 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: They would have Tyler Bass kick the kick short on purpose, 410 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: force them to field it because they had so much 411 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: confidence in their coverage team they thought they could make 412 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: the before the twenty five yard line. So if you 413 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: can get a give the opponent, you know, a lesser drive, start, 414 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. This would kind of eliminate 415 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: that because if you're popping it up short fair catch, 416 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: just wave their hand for a fair catch and they 417 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: get it at the twenty five no questions ask I 418 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: understand that's a safety measure. You're taking more hits out 419 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: of the game. I guess the way around that for 420 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: special teams coaches would be to just squib it along 421 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: the ground. Can't fair catch a kick on the ground, 422 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: so that would be the workaround. I guess if you're 423 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: a special teams coordinator out there, can Thursday night games 424 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: be flexed late in the season. That'll be voted on 425 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: the location of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. We 426 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: know next year's draft's going to be in Detroit, and 427 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: then the location of Super Bowl sixty, which according to reports, 428 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be San Francisco Levi Stadium 429 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: fourth consecutive year, though, Maddie, the proposed alternatives to the 430 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: on side's kick are tabled again. They're not going to 431 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: vote on it. They want to talk about it more. 432 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: This has been going on for like three or four 433 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: years now. This is the whole fourth and fifteen option 434 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: or fourth and twenty option. You know, you score, you're 435 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: trying to get back in the game. Instead of an 436 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: on SITEES kick, do you get the option to do 437 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: a fourth and fifteen play and then if you get 438 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: the first down you keep the ball. I guess they 439 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about it more. I don't know what 440 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: else needs to be discussed, because you have to believe 441 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: the Competition Committee has researched this thoroughly. You know, they 442 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: always worry about unintended consequences and all of that stuff, 443 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: and I totally get all that. I just wonder if 444 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: it's ever going to come to a vote. They can't 445 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: even get to the table to vote. 446 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: On it, I know, and they do it. 447 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you've seen it play out and you've seen 448 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: it exist in the XFL. 449 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: So it to have new rules. 450 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: Or to have whether it's ideas or whatever you want 451 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: to call it, of different versions of scenarios and how 452 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: it could play out different Currently in the XFL, is 453 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: the perfect starter, the perfect conversation starter, the perfect example 454 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: of Hey, is this going to work? Is this not 455 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: going to work? I think players think it is a 456 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: good idea. Depending on who you talk to, maybe some 457 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: prefer an on side kick over fourth and fifteen over 458 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: fourth and twenty. Certainly it would make it a little 459 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: bit more interesting. I think that'd be cool in the NFL. 460 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think if you know the offense has 461 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: that choice after scoring, you know they're trying to get 462 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: back in the game. Yeah, and the on side's kick 463 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: is just even less successful than it used to be 464 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: because you can't do the running start to run up 465 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: to the line anymore. You got to stand at the 466 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage on the kickoff. So that makes on 467 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: side kicks even more difficult to recover by the kicking team. 468 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought it would get more merit. I 469 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: thought it would at least get to a vote this year, 470 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: but that apparently is not going to happen. ESPN dot 471 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: Com is report hoarding that in the wake of five 472 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: players being suspended back in April for illegal gambling. The 473 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: NFL is now investigating a second wave of potential violations 474 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: of its gambling policy that according to ESPN, no players 475 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: or coaches or NFL personnel have been named, but they 476 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: are saying, I mean, we know to this point seven 477 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: NFL players, one assistant coach, and an undisclosed number of 478 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: team employees have been found to violate the policy over 479 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: the past few years. So now there's an investigation as 480 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: to whether or not there were more or not and 481 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: the reason why. And I kind of knew about this matting, 482 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: but not in depth. They have these companies like US Integrity, 483 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: They've partnered with the NFL, and they have these platforms 484 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: that can track bets being placed by prohibited individuals because 485 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: for the players. 486 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: And where being placed, right, so. 487 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: The players can't do it on NFL prop at their 488 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: team facilities things like that. That's how Jamison Williams from 489 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: the Lions got caught on that because he bet while 490 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: he was at the team facility. Calvin Ridley bet out 491 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: of state, which was illegal because of where he was 492 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and what he was betting for, like he was in 493 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: He's from Georgia because he was playing for the Falcons 494 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: at the time, and then bet out of state in Florida, 495 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: which I don't think had gambling approved yet a couple 496 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: of years ago, and he got caught that way. But yeah, 497 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what this investigation uncovers. 498 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: There are other people that could be in trouble here. Yeah, 499 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad if it's players. 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: It's a sticky situation. It's you know, I understand it. 501 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: But it's also interesting to see states roll out with 502 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: new laws and things like that, and then you know, 503 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: down down the line in the future, in the next 504 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: I don't know how many years, but things are going 505 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: to continue to change and how do players fit into that, 506 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: How do coaches fit into that? 507 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: How to staff members fit into all of that. 508 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. We don't know much right now, but 509 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: that's what ESPN is reporting. We'll see what they uncover, 510 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: if and when names are mentioned in terms of gambling violations. 511 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: We also have the Mackai Becton story, and this is 512 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: interesting for two reasons. First, Mackai Becton, we were just 513 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: talking Eric Allen last week, the Jets dot Com reporter, 514 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: and he was telling us Becton is in great shape. 515 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: He's down to like three hundred and forty two pounds, 516 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: which is the lightest he's been probably in about six years. 517 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: He's on this new regimen to stay in shape. Wants 518 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: to come back and be a success. But then he 519 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: sits down with Bob Glauber from Newsday and spills his 520 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: guts about what's happened the last two years and basically 521 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: blames the Jets coaching staff for the injury that cost 522 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: him last season. He basically claimed that he was told 523 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: that putting him at right tackle was what was going 524 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: to happen, and he had to play there even though 525 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: he had a bad injury in his right knee, which 526 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: if you're playing right tackle, that's your kickback leg in 527 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: pass protection, which is a lot more difficult if you 528 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: have a right knee injury. So he claims that being 529 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: forced to play over there made his knee injury worse 530 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: to the point where he needed season ending surgery. He 531 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: said his complaints were dismissed by the coaching staff. He 532 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: had been limping around during practices and even while he 533 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: was trying to play right tackle with the bad knee. 534 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: He said his knee buckled at one point, requiring the 535 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: reconstructive surgery that cost him the season. He's played in 536 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: one game over the last thirty four the past two 537 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: seasons by the Jets. And I don't know about you, Maddie, 538 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: but if you're the Jets and you're reading this, how 539 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: many chances this phrase? The relationship? Done it? 540 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: And a couple weeks ago he was tweeting that he 541 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: was a left tackle, which, okay, if you're tweeting your 542 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: left tackle, then go out and compete for that or 543 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: go out and do that. That's basically what coach Sala 544 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: said when he was asked about it in media availability. 545 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: You know, Mackay has expressed that he wants to be 546 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: a left tackle. 547 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: What what do you have to say to that? 548 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 3: And he said, go earn your spot then if that's 549 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: where you want to play, go earn it right. 550 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: And that's and that's all well and good. But now 551 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: seeing what happened last year and being forced to play 552 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: right tackle, now you know why he's putting it out there. Hey, 553 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: I want to play left tackle, and not for nothing. 554 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Blobber, who's an excellent reporter, 555 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: has covered the Jets for a long time. If he 556 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: saw that tweet by McKay and said, let me talk 557 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: to him, let me see what's up. And this is 558 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: the result of me after the pod. The problem is 559 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: now MacKaye is out there blaming a coaching staff that, 560 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: at least as far as I can tell, is still intact. 561 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: I think the offensive line coach is still there because 562 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: that was Sala's first year or second year, and I 563 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: don't think he made a coaching change there. So now 564 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: you've got the same coaching staff that Beckton's got to 565 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: work with again that he publicly complained about him and 566 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: blames for his injury. To me, that's afraid relationship there, 567 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: which makes this very interesting, Maddie. According to reports, former 568 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Patriots offensive tackle Yodney Kazust is visiting the Jets today 569 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: and the Giants tomorrow. Does he get to the Giants 570 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: on Tuesday? I don't know if he does. The Patriots 571 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: just cut him last week due to what they felt 572 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: was a surplus at that position, so they cut him free. 573 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Cajus was the guy that actually played against the Bills 574 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: in that. Was that a Sunday night game or a 575 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Monday night game? Up there? I can't remember now last season, 576 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: the one they won twenty four to ten. I think 577 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was a Sunday night game. I think 578 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The point is he's not on the Patriots anymore. 579 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: The Jets are going to have him in for a visit, 580 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: kick the tires on him, decide what they want to decide. 581 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: But with the Becton complaints, you know in the publications today, 582 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: you've got cojuice coming in. I'm just wondering if the 583 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: other shoe drops here and Makai Becton's looking for a job, 584 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: because that's a pretty bold statement to make, and that's 585 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: the way he feels. That's fine, you want to express yourself. 586 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: But holy crow, job security, buddy. 587 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, job security. 588 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: Expressing something like that publicly out there in the open 589 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: for a New York media to chomp on and to 590 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: do whatever they want with, well. 591 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: They'll ask solid questions all week now to follow up one, 592 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: to get the latest tidbit. Oh you're gonna cut him? 593 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Is the relationship now? Fraid? Is it this irreparable? Is 594 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: this now the point of over? It's you know, are 595 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: you gonna trade him? 596 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: Like? 597 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 598 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. 599 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: You usually want those things to happen behind closed doors, 600 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: conversations with coaching staff, conversations with the players. 601 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: When this stuff gets out in the open. Yuck. 602 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that is around the NFL brought to you 603 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Bills. Topic 604 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: of discussion for you today, what position do you think 605 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: still needs tweaking on the Bills roster? You know, Brandon 606 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: Bean loves to tinker all off season to get the 607 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: roster just right for training camp and even for the 608 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: regular season through the course of the preseason. So you 609 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: tell us if you have a position in mind that 610 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: you think needs just ever so slightly to be tweaked 611 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 1: to make you feel better going into training camp and 612 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: the regular season. Eight h three oh five fifty one 613 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number to 614 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: get on board here on Monday on One Bill's Live, 615 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Maddy Lab with you. 616 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: Stay tuned. 617 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live Chris Brown 618 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: Attic Lab with you on a Monday. We do know 619 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: that we're having some technical issues with the phones as 620 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: well as the radio stream on the Odyssey app. Sit 621 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: tight if that's how you usually consume the show. Although 622 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: you're probably not hearing this, but if you're hearing this 623 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: and you have friends that listen on the stream, maybe 624 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: shoot him a text or a tweet, let them know, Hey, 625 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: streams down right now. They're we're going to get it 626 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: back up, so please be patient and our engineers will 627 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: be on it. They're on it right now and hopefully 628 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: they get it rectified in the not too distant future. Also, 629 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: one other thing I double checked regarding the Mackay Beckton's story. 630 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: He was basically blaming his offensive line coach for his 631 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: injury that cost him the twenty twenty two season. That 632 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: was John Benton. He was missed and replaced by Keith Carter. 633 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: So it is a new offensive line coach for Mackay Beckton. 634 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: So maybe he is all right saying what he said 635 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: about the former offensive line coach of the Jets forcing 636 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: him to play with an injury. Now that being said, Maddie, 637 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: there is one more tidbit concerning the Jets. There was 638 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: another Jets player, Ty Johnson, the running back. Yeah, he 639 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: said he was cut right after the team asked him 640 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: to have surgery that he didn't want to have. So 641 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: there seems to be a few things going on in 642 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: Jets Land that don't exactly sound completely on the level, 643 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: But we'll leave that to the New York media to 644 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: dive into and uncover further. But it's interesting when there's 645 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: more than one of those kinds of stories, two very 646 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: different situations. You got a hurt guy that they're forcing 647 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: to play, and then you got a guy that they 648 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: think needs surgery and he doesn't want it. But you 649 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: got to wonder about the medical decision making going on 650 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: down there when you have more than one player dealing 651 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: with these kinds of things. But we'll let the Jets 652 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: handle the Jets. We're handling the bills and what position 653 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: you believe might need just a little bit of tweaking 654 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: on Buffalo's roster between now and the start of the 655 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: regular season. Yes, the bulk of off season roster construction 656 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: is done, but as we know, Brandon Bean is always 657 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: tinkering with the roster here and there, and wouldn't shock 658 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: us if we see some more things come down the 659 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: pike in the coming weeks, or even right before training camp. 660 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: So you let us know what you think. Hitting us 661 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet is probably your best course 662 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: of action right now. With the phone lines down, so 663 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: at one Bills Live is where you can do that. 664 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: So that's where we are. Maddie, do you have a 665 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: position that comes to mind for you, per Se, like 666 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: just something that you say, Ah, you know what, maybe 667 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: if they got one little added piece, or maybe I'd 668 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: like to see more of this at this position. I 669 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: don't know if you had anything that came to mind. 670 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: Per Se, I think off the top of my head 671 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: right now without giving it too much thought at this point. 672 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: You know, defensive tackle is a position that Brandon Bean 673 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 3: has talked about, is a position that he has said, 674 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 3: you know, we might add more to this group. We 675 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: understand we don't have a lot of guys on or 676 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: really any guys on contract wise past this next season, 677 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: and we would like to fix that so we're not 678 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: in a bad place. Once we finish up with the 679 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three season and head into twenty twenty four, 680 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 3: at least start thinking about the twenty twenty four roster. 681 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: So defensive tackle depth wise, I think that could help 682 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: this position group because of the way the defensive line 683 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: has played in the past. We know Sean McDermott will 684 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 3: be calling plays this year. That is new but Eric Washington, 685 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 3: their defensive line coach, has been the d line coach. 686 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 3: Now this will be his third season, I want to say, 687 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: with that group, and he likes to rotate bodies to 688 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 3: keep the legs fresh, to send new fresh bodies at 689 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: offensive linemen who are getting tired throughout a game. So 690 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: if you want to use bodies, you gotta have players. 691 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do have some younger players in the mix. 692 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: I know Brandon Bean did say that he was happy 693 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: that they were able to pick up Cameron klein Off 694 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Waivers recently. You still have Kingsley Jonathan in the fold, 695 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: who was a practice squad player last year as a rookie, 696 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: went to play a few games in Chicago, then got released, 697 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: was back with the Bills at the end of the season, 698 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: even played against the Bears on Christmas Eve. Got some 699 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: playing time there. So that's another guy that'll be in 700 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: the mix at you know, a pass rushing position. But yeah, 701 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: defensive tackle was a little thin. They got a couple 702 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: of undrafted free agents to play on the defensive interior. 703 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: DJ Dale probably headlines that group the Alabama kid more 704 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: than anybody else. But if you have a position in mind, 705 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: you let us know phone lines are back up at 706 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: eight oh three zero five point fifty one eight eight 707 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: eight five point fifty two five fifty the number to 708 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: get on board. And let's go to Leslie in Buffalo. 709 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: What do you got for us, Leslie? 710 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 6: I don't Chris good him Maddie, Oh yes, can you 711 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 6: hear me? 712 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: I can? Yeah? 713 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 6: Okay, Maddie took my thought defensive tackle, biggest justin Phillips 714 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 6: and wide out. Could we get Arizona Arizona's white out? 715 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: Oh you're you're still on the DeAndre Hopkins train. 716 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 6: Huh yeah, yes, well, well all our we get nine 717 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 6: ten draft choices next year. Could we work some now? 718 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? I see what you're saying, Leslie. Like the Bills 719 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: would seem to have the draft capital to pull something 720 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: like that off. The problem is the money that DeAndre 721 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: Hopkins is owed, which is thirty four million in base 722 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: salary over the next two years, which the team that 723 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: inherits him would be responsible for in total. Uh. That 724 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: seems to be the biggest stumbling block, and even DeAndre 725 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: Hopkins has said, well, I think I'm gonna be stuck here. 726 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: I think the more interesting one is the one Maddie 727 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: and I were talking about late last week on the 728 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: show with DeVante Adams seemingly unhappy in Las Vegas about 729 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: the direction the offense is taking with new quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo. 730 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: Could that be an opportunity for a team looking to 731 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: augment the receiver position knowing he only counts six million 732 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: in base salary. The problem there is the opposite the 733 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: cap hit that Las Vegas would incur if they moved 734 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: him off the roster'd be upwards of thirty million dollars. 735 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: So money is the issue. When things make sense and 736 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: they still don't happen, look at the money. That's probably 737 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: the biggest reason why something like that doesn't happen. Let's 738 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: go back to the phones and to Al up in Wilson. 739 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? 740 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 7: Al Hi big fan of the show? 741 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 742 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 7: Thanks, I got a question on OTA's sure. What does 743 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 7: OTAs stand for? I've asked quite a few people and 744 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 7: nobody seems to know. 745 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's off season training activities. Oh okay, Yeah, that's 746 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: because it's not just practice. There are conditioning things that 747 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: take place during that point in time, along with a 748 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: host of other things. Way training, that type of stuff. 749 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: So I think they just use that phrase to encompass 750 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: all of it, and since off season training activities is 751 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: a mouthful, they abbreviated okay. 752 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 7: As far as tweaking positions, I don't think anything needs 753 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 7: to be tweaked. I think last year they had so 754 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 7: much happened that control that emotionally, they just run out 755 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 7: of gas, and I think this year will be a 756 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 7: totally different scenario. That's my feelings in it. 757 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I respect it, and I get it, 758 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry it's organized team activities. I don't know 759 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: why I said offseason it would make sense organized team 760 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: activities is OTAs. Yeah, I mean, you think they're gonna 761 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 1: run out of gas? They ran out of gas last 762 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: year for a whole different reason, you know, due to 763 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: the emotional toll that the Damar Hamlin incident took on them. 764 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think about is what 765 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: do you think about Al's take? 766 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: He said that he didn't think they would run out 767 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: of gas this year? So yeah, I mean this past 768 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: this past season was a long season for just about 769 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: everybody on the team. What they had to endure, what 770 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 3: they had to go through, the injuries. You couple and 771 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 3: pair that all together, I don't think we see a 772 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: season like that that we saw last year. I don't 773 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: think we have something like that again this year. I'm like, 774 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: knock on the table while I'm saying that, because anything 775 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 3: can happen. 776 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. 777 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: But I also think even if this group was to 778 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 3: go through maybe the injuries or something not as traumatic 779 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: as Damar Hamlin, but I feel like the group has 780 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: been through a lot together in that they could go 781 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 3: through something else, something not as tough, but knowing what 782 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: they went through, knowing how they dealt with it, knowing 783 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 3: how they moved on and got better and grew from 784 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 3: a scenario situation like that, that if they were to 785 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: face something similar, that they would have the tools to 786 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 3: be able to face it, deal with it, learn from it, 787 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: grow from it. But hopefully they're not in a situation 788 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: where they're doing any of that. 789 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: This up in season, as. 790 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: Any NFL season will show you, and last season is 791 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,959 Speaker 1: probably the best proof of this. There are no guarantees. 792 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: The Bills had an unusually long list of injuries last year, 793 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: an untold number of adverse circumstances thrown at them, from 794 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: whether to you know, the passing of Dawson Knox's brother, 795 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, to the DeMar Hamlin situation, to Kim Pagola's situation. 796 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: So all of that completely unexpected. What's the likelihood of 797 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: that happening again this year? I would say one in 798 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: ten million. But every NFL season, for every NFL team 799 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: has some kind of adversity rolled into it. It just 800 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: the season's too long, the sport itself is too physical 801 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: to not have things crop up over the course of 802 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: the year. And it's more about how good is your 803 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: team at withstanding those adverse circumstances, empowering through them, either 804 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: because they have great team depth, great team resolve, or both. 805 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: So the Bills, the Bills had an unbelievable season despite 806 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: all of that. So you know, if they even get 807 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: just a little bit less adversity, you would hope it 808 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: would mean better things, especially come the postseason. We have 809 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: to take a break here, but an open line for 810 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: you at eight h three zero five point fifty one 811 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty what position if 812 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: you had to pick one, do you still think needs 813 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: just a little bit of tweaking before we get to 814 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: training camp. We'll take your phone calls, Mike and Rochester, 815 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: Gon to lead us off when we return here on 816 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. All right back here on one Bill's Live, 817 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Maddy Gleab with you. We mentioned DeAndre Hopkins 818 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: and poof there's stuff from DeAndre Hopkins. 819 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 820 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: He was asked on the im Athlete podcast which quarterbacks 821 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: he'd love to have him have throwing him the football, 822 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: and his first answer was, Josh Allen. I don't think 823 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: he's the only receiver in the league that would answer 824 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: that way, but the fact that he. 825 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: Is are the Flames. Brownie, I'm not he. 826 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: Said it, not me. No, I know you're but there 827 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: he is. I mean, answering the question he didn't mention 828 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in his top five, he now claims, in hindsight, 829 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: it's because he's injured right now and that's why I 830 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: didn't mention Kyler. You know, he's got the injury that's 831 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: going to keep him out at the beginning of the year. 832 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If he's so bad badly wants somebody 833 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: else throwing him the football, he's going to have to 834 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: make some major concessions in terms of his salary because 835 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: none of these other clubs have enough money to fit 836 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: him under their cap unless they get insanely creative with 837 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: the money he still owed over his last two years. 838 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: So if he so badly wants one of those guys 839 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: thrown to him, he's going to have to make some 840 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: major financial concessions for another team to be able to 841 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: make it work. Right now, that's just that's just the 842 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: way I see it. But stranger things have happened in 843 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: this league for sure. Let's get back to the phones 844 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: at eight h three zero five point fifty one eight 845 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty number to call to 846 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: let us know what position on the roster would you 847 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: like to see, Just get a little more tweaking before 848 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: we get to training camp and the regular season. As promised, 849 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: we lead off with Mike in Rochester. What do you 850 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 1: got for his? Mike here on One Bill's Live. 851 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 8: Well, Hello, thank you for taking my college sure. First 852 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 8: of all, I want to congratulate Maddie, because weeks before 853 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 8: the draft, Maddy did say that we were going to 854 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 8: her hot take with that we were going to take 855 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 8: a tight end. I got on her side, and I 856 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 8: was trying to convince my friends that we were going 857 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,959 Speaker 8: to be taking a tight end, and they all thought 858 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 8: that was crazy. Maddy, Yeah, but it ended up you 859 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 8: were being like though I thought it was gonna be 860 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 8: Mike Myers, I'm glad we got Kinka, but that's where 861 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 8: we are. 862 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 863 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 8: Hey, that being said, I think that we got the 864 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 8: pieces in place at the tight end position, but now 865 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 8: we need to tweak how they're going to be used. 866 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 8: So that's that's my take on it. You know, pieces 867 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 8: are there, how we're. 868 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 9: Going to use it. 869 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 8: Thanks for taking my call, appreciated, guys. 870 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, I mean I don't. Maddy and I 871 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: were discussing this last week. Steve and I talked about 872 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: it on our latest podcast, Bills by the Numbers. I 873 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: think that the Bill's usage of twelve personnel is going 874 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: to go up from where it was last year. The 875 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 1: Bills were dead last in the league in the usage 876 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: of twelve personnel. I think it will go up, but 877 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be out of this 878 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: world dramatic because I think what the Bills do best 879 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,479 Speaker 1: is the three receiver sets the eleven personnel. That's their 880 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: trademark of their offense, and I don't think they move 881 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: away from that to suddenly make twelve personnel their bread 882 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: and butter. Where I think twelve personnel is going to 883 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: show up more for the Bills is in the red 884 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: zone because the ability to get two targets like Kinkaiden 885 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: knocks on the field down there, I think could really 886 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: do some damage and increase a red zone offense that 887 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: was ninth in the league last year into a potential 888 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: top five unit. As far as sticking the ball in 889 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: the end zone. 890 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: Goes, Yeah, I appreciate you a getting on board with 891 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 3: my hot take of drafting a tight end in the 892 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 3: first round. 893 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: Hey, I thought it could happen, and it was. 894 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: Really cool to watch the board fall how it did, 895 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 3: and the fact that the Bills had to move up 896 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 3: to go get Dalton meant that they really liked him 897 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 3: and thought that he could do something to this offense 898 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 3: and for this offense. 899 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: It will be. 900 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 3: Interesting to see his usage as a rookie in his 901 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 3: first season in the NFL. I'm really interested to see 902 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 3: is he gonna be rolled out in game one? How much? 903 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 3: How frequently? Is this gonna be something where he is 904 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 3: going to be a rookie And I'm thinking about how 905 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 3: rookies are used on this team and how they've been 906 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 3: used in the past. Is he somebody that's gonna be 907 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 3: used from the get go? Is he gonna earn his 908 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 3: spot there? Is he going to be folded in and 909 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 3: within the first few weeks? And what will that look like? 910 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 3: I agree with you, Brownie, and that you know your 911 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 3: three wide receiver sets that you've ran in the past, 912 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 3: that this offense has done a really good job with. 913 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 3: I don't think those are gonna go away at all. 914 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: Twelve personnel in the red zone, heck yeah, sign me 915 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 3: up for that. Because of the fact that these two 916 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 3: in Dawson Knox and Dalton Kinkaid are complete mismatches. Once 917 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 3: you get inside the red zone, the windows get tighter. 918 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 3: These guys are bigger, they have and Dalton Kincaid has 919 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: elite ball skills when you turn on the tape and 920 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 3: when you watch him as a receiver. That's that's a 921 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 3: reason why Brandon Bean and this coaching staff really liked 922 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 3: him as a tight end is because what he could 923 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 3: offer as a type of wide receiver in addition to 924 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 3: being a tight end. They kind of look at him 925 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 3: when Brandon Bean would explain it is you know, it's 926 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 3: it's kind of like eleven and a half personnel because 927 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 3: of what he offers the game. I think another thing 928 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 3: with that is, and I'm I'm catching myself probably needing 929 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: to do this as well as tempering the expectations for 930 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 3: a rookie right well, right the d hop conversation, the 931 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: conversation of hey, let's get another wide receiver in here 932 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: to be able to help out Josh Allen and Stefan 933 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 3: Diggs and Gabe Davis. Well, Dalton Kincaid is maybe not 934 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 3: that receiver, but he's going to be somebody who can 935 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 3: help out Stefan and Josh. But how much and how 936 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 3: much should we expect from him in his first season? 937 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 3: I believe this is somebody who can grow into being 938 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 3: a really important part of this offense, but maybe not 939 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 3: in year one. Maybe year one is starting to roll 940 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 3: out that red carpet and getting him comfortable within the offense. 941 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: Right And as you mentioned, the history of this coaching 942 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: staff is they don't throw rookies on the field. They 943 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: make them earn it. So how quickly can he earn 944 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: playing time or does this coaching staff come to the 945 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: realization that we need guys that are this talented on 946 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: the field as quickly as possible as long as they're 947 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: doing all the right things and making progress, let's get 948 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: them out there sooner rather than later. I know there 949 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,479 Speaker 1: were a lot of people amongst the fan base last 950 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: year that wanted to see Khalil Shakir on the field 951 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: sooner and more often, and wanted James Cook on the 952 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: field sooner and more often. That didn't happen until the 953 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: latter stages of the season, and some I know, some 954 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 1: fans that I've spoken to wonder if that cost them 955 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: come the playoffs. Shakiir really showed up in the playoffs 956 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: if you think about it. He was making plays, critical plays, 957 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: third down plays to keep drives alive, and Cook flashed 958 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: in the last quarter of the season. Does that convince 959 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, Hey, you know what, We're picking the 960 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: right people for a reason. We invest all the time 961 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: to make sure we're picking guys that have the bills DNA. 962 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: So if that's the case and they can help us 963 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, let's get them on the field 964 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Be interesting to see if what 965 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: Shakiir and Cook did down the stretch and in the 966 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: playoffs could convince the coaching staff. Hey, you know what, 967 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: let's get Kincaid and you know, incorporated into the offense 968 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit sooner than we did with those 969 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: two guys last season. Gotta take a break here. More 970 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: of your phone calls though. In our number two we 971 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: are wide open. Eight oh three five fifty the number 972 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: to get on board one eight eight eight five point 973 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: fifty two five point fifty the toll free number. Got 974 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: open lines for you. When we start our number two, 975 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: it begins with Mark and Jersey City. So hang tight. 976 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to your phone calls when we return. Here 977 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo 978 00:50:46,520 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. This is One Bills Lives presented by Calida Health. 979 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: All right, here we are our number two on a Monday, 980 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: Chris Brown attic Lab with you discussing the Bills roster 981 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 1: and maybe a position or two that you might still 982 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: like to see a tweak at between now in training 983 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: camp or at least now in the regular season. We 984 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: did tell you that the spring league meetings are taking 985 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: place up in Minnesota. We talked about the potential for 986 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: a vote to be made on making fair catches on 987 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: kickoffs spotted at the twenty five yard line. That is 988 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: going to be pushed back until Tuesday. According to NFL 989 00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 1: Networks Tom Pella Sero, special teams coordinators are totally against 990 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: it because of what we were mentioning earlier. It kind 991 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: of takes out the ability to pop a kickup short 992 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: to force the return man to field it because you 993 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: have confidence in your coverage unit to tackle him before 994 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line. Well, if you pop it 995 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: up short and now they can just fair catch it, it 996 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: goes to the twenty five anyway, and takes out that 997 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: element of the game. So special teams coordinators are totally 998 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: against it. The Competition Committee, however, is in favor because 999 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: it takes one more collision out of the game and 1000 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: arguably makes it safer. So we'll see what comes of 1001 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Meanwhile, NFL owners did approve the proposal allowing 1002 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: teams to dress a third quarterback on game day without 1003 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 1: using an active roster spot. This is like the old 1004 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: days when they had the emergency third quarterback available on 1005 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: game day, so if God forbid, something happens to your 1006 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 1: first two, you can put that guy into the game. 1007 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: San Francisco certainly could have used that in the NFC 1008 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: title game last year because by the end they had 1009 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey playing quarterback for him was a disaster. So 1010 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of what prompted that kind of coming back 1011 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: in and that was approved. So that is good to go. 1012 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: But we're going to get back to the phone lines 1013 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: here as we want to know from you what position, 1014 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: if you had to pick one, would you like to 1015 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: see a little tweaking to before the Bills go to 1016 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: training camp. Back to the phones we go where we 1017 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: have an open line for you at eight h three 1018 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: zero five to fifty and to Mark in Jersey City, 1019 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: what do you have first? 1020 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 10: Mark, Good afternoon, guys. I think it's defensive line. It's 1021 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 10: always the one position being never seems to content that. 1022 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 10: He always seems to be shaking the trees, trying to 1023 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 10: see what falls out there, whether it's end, whether it's 1024 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 10: defensive tackle. From the time they got there, and given 1025 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 10: the situation contract wise, lack of production from some of 1026 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 10: the younger defensive ends even and once Spawn went out 1027 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 10: and I believe Rousseau was out some games, that pass 1028 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 10: rush really really took a hit and they started to 1029 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 10: get more exposed down the field, you know, and they 1030 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 10: were injury riddled back there too, So I think there 1031 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 10: and then tight ends. I'll do you one better, Chris. 1032 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 10: I think we'll see twenty three personnel once they get 1033 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 10: inside the ten because they love Quinton Morris. They liked him. 1034 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 10: He split out, caught the one touchdown against Miami, and 1035 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 10: he played a lot more than I thought any I 1036 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 10: think he played a lot more than anybody thought he 1037 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 10: would play last year, and anytime he got an opportunity, 1038 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 10: he was good at it. So I think there'll be 1039 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 10: some games, depending on the weather, because we know those 1040 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 10: games will happen, that we'll see that. We'll see him 1041 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 10: up instead of an extra wide receiver. 1042 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could see some jumbo for sure. 1043 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: Twenty three personnel. I think twelve might be what they 1044 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean again after eleven personnel, which I think we 1045 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: all expect to still be their bread and butter this 1046 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: year offensively, I think twelve is going to be right 1047 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: behind that in the red zone. And then you know 1048 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: what I would sign up for. I'd sign up for 1049 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: some twenty two. Get Damian Harris or Latavius Murray in 1050 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 1: there and put red Gillium in front of him. Let's go. 1051 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: I would sign up for that. I think We're gonna 1052 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: see more power running between the tackles, not just in 1053 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: short yardage, but late in games when the Bills have 1054 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: the lead, maybe more than we've seen ever in the 1055 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: McDermott era. So things to contemplate and to think about. 1056 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: But there's another vote for the defensive line, Maddi. 1057 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can never have too many defensive linemen. I 1058 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 3: know you could say that for the offensive line as well. 1059 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,479 Speaker 3: I think they do have a good amount of guys 1060 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 3: right now on the rostra at least, and bodies who 1061 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 3: can compete for stops, for starting spots, and bodies who 1062 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 3: can compete also for depth pieces, because they're going to 1063 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 3: need that along the offensive line this year. But the 1064 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 3: defensive end is an interesting position as well. Beyond von 1065 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 3: Miller and Greg Russeau, who fits into the fold there. Yes, 1066 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 3: those are going to be your primary guys on the end, 1067 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 3: but there are gonna be downs. There are gonna be 1068 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 3: times where there's gonna be different bodies aside from Rousseau 1069 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 3: and von Miller play in those games. We don't know 1070 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 3: if von Miller is going to be good to go 1071 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 3: week one. We're not sure about that. I mean, hopefully 1072 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 3: that is the case, we've heard that he's he's on 1073 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,720 Speaker 3: the right timeline. We haven't heard a date. We'll probably 1074 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 3: get some updates throughout OTAs and mandatory mini camp from 1075 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 3: where Von is, what he's doing on the field, even 1076 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 3: if he's even out there, if he's rehabbing, what that 1077 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 3: looks like. But if it's not gonna be vn in 1078 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, there's gonna be somebody else 1079 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 3: who has to fill that hole, which also means there's 1080 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 3: going to have to be somebody behind that person who 1081 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 3: is filling in for Von Miller. And I would love 1082 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 3: to see a j Epanessa and Boogie Basham and Shaq 1083 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 3: loss and continue to take those steps forward. But I 1084 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 3: think we've all been wanting to see more out of 1085 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 3: those guys when when it's their turn to be on 1086 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 3: the field, and they've had they've had times, and they've 1087 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 3: had consistent games, but I think it's putting it together. 1088 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: And that's the case for somebody like. 1089 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,439 Speaker 3: Like Ed Oliver as well as Yes, you've had you've 1090 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 3: had stints, you've had series, you've had bursts, wear whatever 1091 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: you want to call it, where it's been good and 1092 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 3: you've been a productive player and you've made a difference, 1093 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 3: but can you put that together game after game? 1094 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: I think, just to illustrate our last caller, Mark's point 1095 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: even more, how you know, Brandon Bean's always trying to 1096 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: tweak and tinker with the defensive line rotation. There are 1097 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: eighteen defensive linemen on the roster right now. 1098 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 2: They're eighteen. 1099 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:38,479 Speaker 1: There are ten defensive tackles and eight defensive ends. I mean, 1100 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: they go, they go, They go five deep at defensive 1101 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: tackle right now. Now. Obviously we know not all of 1102 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: those guys are going to make the active roster, but 1103 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: I wonder how many they carry at the end. They 1104 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: carried nine defensive linemen when they made the initial fifty 1105 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: three man roster. I'm sure it vacillated between nine and 1106 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: ten through the course of the year based on player availability, 1107 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: injuries at other positions, etc. I'm wondering if they carry 1108 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: ten on the fifty three this year because I think, 1109 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: if you plan to play, if Sean McDermott still plans 1110 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: to play Nickel as much as they have the past 1111 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: couple of years, do you really need more than five 1112 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: linebackers on your roster. I mean you need them for 1113 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: special teams. I get that but there's really only two 1114 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: on the field most of the time on defense, and 1115 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: you have the added talent of a guy by the 1116 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: name of Taylor Rapp who could factor into some three 1117 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: safety looks and take snaps there. So you roll all 1118 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: that together, and I wonder if they keep instead of 1119 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: five defensive ends and just four defensive tackles as was 1120 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: the case last year, do they go five and five 1121 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: and take a fifth defensive tackle the active fifty three? 1122 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: Because you got to remember, again, Maddie, we're talking about 1123 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: all these expiring contracts, but they're all veteran players. Yes, 1124 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: you're talking day Kwon Jones, Ed Oliver, Tim Settle, Poona Ford, 1125 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. Those are arguably your top five, with a 1126 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: bunch of other guys that have been on the practice 1127 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: squad and DJ Dale, the undrafted rookie. So I'm not 1128 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 1: saying you can't put a veteran on the practice squad. 1129 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 1: You can. I mean, there are those exceptions on the 1130 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: expanded practice squad rules that have come into vogue the 1131 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: last couple of years since COVID. But I wonder if 1132 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 1: they keep ten on their outright. 1133 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 3: They not last year, the year before, was it ten 1134 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 3: or eleven, because I remember when we were doing. 1135 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: I think it was ten off offensive linemen. Okay, I 1136 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: know that. 1137 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 3: I know we had a big number at defensive line 1138 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 3: Eric Washington's first season because the big storyline was we 1139 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 3: want to rotate these guys yep, and we're going to 1140 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 3: have more honor active roster, and then they usually had 1141 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 3: one more up. 1142 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: For the game day roster to rotate. Believe. 1143 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Oh, like you mean like an elevation. 1144 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I think they would usually elevate one more defensive lineman. 1145 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's your way around it nowadays, although 1146 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: you're limited to how many free elevations you can have. 1147 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: It's up to three now without having to subject that 1148 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: player to waivers and get claimed by somebody else. You 1149 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: can just option them back to the practice squad. But 1150 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: you can only do that three times max in a season. 1151 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: So if you had a guy that said, oh, let's 1152 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: just call this guy up every week, well, after three times, 1153 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: he gets exposed to waivers and somebody else can claim him. 1154 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: And if he's good enough to play for you three 1155 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: weeks in a row, chances are somebody that might be 1156 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: short at that position is gonna scoop him up so 1157 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: you have to be strategic with that stuff, which makes 1158 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: me think they probably do keep five and five, especially 1159 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 1: if they're gonna rotate. 1160 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 2: Did they have six linebackers on the roster last year? Five? 1161 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: It was Bernard Madikievich, Climb came later Climb, so Dodson 1162 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: those three and then you had Milano and Edmunds that five. 1163 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Trying to remember if there was a sixth oh balin 1164 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: spec so they had six, I don't know if they 1165 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: If you're carry you gotta you gotta rob from Peter 1166 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: to pay Paul if you're gonna carry more one position 1167 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: than another. And they obviously felt special teams was more 1168 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: important last year and they carried six linebackers. I'm wondering 1169 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: what they do this time around, or do they carry 1170 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: it light somewhere else. Maybe they even robbed from the 1171 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, where there's gonna be another 1172 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: decision to make. You know, with the tight end position, 1173 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: are you carrying three Reggie Gilliam, where are you gonna 1174 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 1: factor his role in? Does he factor into the tight 1175 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 1: end group or are you gonna slide them over to 1176 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: the running back group. You got some veteran players in 1177 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: that running back room. Now, like like Tavius Murray and 1178 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Damian Harris, do they both make the rosters. 1179 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 3: I just got the running group thinking we might carry 1180 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 3: another an extra running back this year. And I know 1181 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,959 Speaker 3: in the past there's been running backs on a ross 1182 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 3: that have played more special teams role. 1183 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're gonna carry five there, Yeah, and you 1184 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: counting Gillian. I'm counting Gillian. 1185 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,439 Speaker 2: Coun Gillian is a running back. 1186 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 3: You have older players like Latavius Murray and somebody who's 1187 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 3: played in the league several years like. 1188 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Nahim Hines and Damien. 1189 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 3: Harris, and I start to see roles for each one 1190 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 3: of these guys on the offense depending on what situation, 1191 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 3: the down and distance that you're in. If it's a 1192 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 3: short yardage situation, Latavius Murray is a very different makeup 1193 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 3: of a running back compared to what else we have 1194 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 3: on the roster. 1195 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Nahim Heines is different. 1196 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 3: Than James Cook, and James Cook is different than Damian Harris. 1197 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 3: I see all of these four running backs fitting in 1198 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 3: different spots and different needs within the game. 1199 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Right. I think Latavius Murray, who I think is certainly 1200 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: good enough to still be a regular rostered NFL running back, 1201 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: in this league, even at age thirty three. I mean, 1202 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: we had him here in studio. The guy's fit as 1203 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: a fiddle. But I wonder if he takes on the 1204 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: role that we saw what's the guy's name, Duke Duke 1205 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: Johnson last year who kind of was optioned to the 1206 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: practice squad and stayed there until he was needed. Or 1207 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe you have a given opponent where you just want 1208 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: to power run the hell out of them. All right, 1209 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: let's elevate Latavious this week and then option him back down, 1210 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: and then he's one of our four protected players on 1211 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: the practice squad that we don't let anybody touch, and 1212 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: we have him as a luxury there to use at 1213 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: our discretion, and if we have an injury, bang, he's 1214 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: on the active roster. I wonder if they do that 1215 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: similar to the way they did last week last year 1216 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: with Duke Johnson. 1217 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 3: And you don't have a Taiwan Jones anymore on the roster, 1218 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 3: at least at that running back. 1219 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Right. 1220 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he took up a spot, but he was a 1221 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 3: special teams player. So you wonder if that special teams 1222 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 3: player fits in in a different position other than running back. 1223 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 2: Maybe it's line. 1224 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 3: Backer, Like you talked about and like players have have 1225 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 3: been a part of last year, Tyler Menikaevich, Trel Bernard Bayalinspector, 1226 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 3: guys who are Tyrrell Dodson who are also used on 1227 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,439 Speaker 3: special teams. 1228 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Right, And then you know you've got added depth at 1229 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: safety now because you have Taylor rap here. DeMar Hamlin's 1230 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: been cleared. You hope he makes the full recovery and 1231 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: he's part of the roster conversation as well. And then 1232 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: the first guy they signed in free agency this year 1233 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: was Zane Anderson, who's a special teams guy. So maybe 1234 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: instead of Taiwan Jones at the running back position, is 1235 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: your extra special teams player a safety? And Zane Anderson, Well, 1236 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see. These are the kinds 1237 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: of tricky decisions, yep, that have to be made when 1238 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out your fifty three. What position 1239 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: do you think still needs tweaking. We're gonna go back 1240 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: to the phones open line for you. There at eight 1241 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: h three zero five point fifty won eight and eight 1242 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty the number to get on board. 1243 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: But we go to rich In Tanawanda next. What do 1244 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: you off for as rich you're on One Bill's Live. 1245 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 9: Hey, Chris and Maddie. Nice to talk to you. Thanks 1246 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 9: for taking my call. Hey, the one thing you really 1247 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 9: haven't stressed on is the offensive line. Now. Alan ran 1248 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 9: for his life last year, and I think especially center 1249 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 9: can be upgraded. And the reason why I say that 1250 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 9: is because, in my opinion, I don't think Mitch Morris 1251 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 9: did a I mean, he's good, but I don't think 1252 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 9: he's big enough. I don't think he's strong enough. And 1253 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 9: I'd like to see the offensive line have better run 1254 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 9: blackers and maybe even replace the center. What are your thoughts? 1255 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for the call, Rich, we can address that. 1256 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I thought Mitch Morris had his best 1257 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 1: year in a Bill's uniform last season. I thought it 1258 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: was his most consistent seasons he's been here. That's number one. 1259 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Number two, he has an extraordinary relationship with Josh Allen 1260 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 1: in terms of getting the protection set and the pre 1261 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, in the line calls and stuff like that. 1262 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: That works very seamlessly between those two. That should not 1263 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: be dismissed. He's a mobile center, he's not a push 1264 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: the pile center. So as long as you know what 1265 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: you're getting there I think you have to be happy 1266 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 1: with what he's given you, especially last season. But I 1267 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: think part of the reason why we saw the turnover 1268 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: at the guard position this offseason was for the reason 1269 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: you're discussing Rich to be better between the tackles in 1270 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: the run game, and I think the Bills, as a 1271 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: coaching staff and a personnel department put that on the 1272 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: guard position because they think so much of Mitch as 1273 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: a center. I think they're looking to help him on 1274 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: the interior and that's why you see a three hundred 1275 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: and thirty pound guard drafted in Osiris, Torrance. That's why 1276 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: the biggest free agent contract that was handed out this 1277 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: offseason went to Connor McGovern, who they got from Dallas. 1278 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Those are two guys that are going to One is 1279 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: probably going to be the starter at left guard, the 1280 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 1: other's going to be in the mix to start at 1281 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: right guard. And I think if you have two girthy 1282 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: size guys at the guard positions, I think that makes 1283 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: you a better in between the tackles running football team, 1284 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: which I think is a fair criticism Rich that it 1285 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,479 Speaker 1: hasn't been as good, but I don't think it comes 1286 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 1: at the expense of Mitch Morse's spot. I think it's 1287 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: you could see two changes at the guard positions from 1288 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: last season to this season. 1289 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Mitch Morse had an incredible season last 1290 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 3: year because of the fact that the people around him 1291 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 3: were switching and were in and out of the lineups 1292 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 3: so much and such. And this is a center who 1293 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 3: since he came to the Bills in twenty nineteen. Sure, 1294 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 3: you've had a solidified five at times, but it's been 1295 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 3: a position group that's experienced a lot of injury and 1296 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 3: has had to shift a lot, even throughout games. 1297 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 2: I've remember times where. 1298 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 3: It was Mitch coming off of the field and other 1299 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 3: people rolling into that center position. Not saying that he's 1300 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 3: injured a lot, but it's just an offensive line that's 1301 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 3: been through quite a bit in terms of shifting and 1302 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 3: having to get comfortable with somebody who's just coming into 1303 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,640 Speaker 3: a game, maybe in the second or third quarter, and 1304 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 3: you as a center have to create and know that 1305 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 3: chemistry right away, so at the flip of a switch, 1306 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 3: when a new guy is standing next to you, you 1307 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 3: have to be. 1308 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 2: Ready for that. 1309 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 3: I think he's done a really good job of doing 1310 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 3: that through practices, training camp, and relationship building. With his 1311 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 3: players as well as a quarterback like Josh Allen. Mitch 1312 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 3: Morse is going into his ninth NFL season. I still 1313 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 3: think he has years left in the tank. Sure down 1314 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 3: the road, this is going to be a position that 1315 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 3: the Bills will need to address, whether that's in the 1316 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,600 Speaker 3: drafter or via free agency. But I also think with 1317 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 3: the additions that they've made to the roster with the 1318 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 3: offensive line position, Brandon Bean does not think that that 1319 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 3: center position needs to be looked at, doesn't need a 1320 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 3: a next person in waiting yet. Because of the fact 1321 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 3: that they added so many guards to the roster this season, 1322 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,719 Speaker 3: I think that's a telling telling thing for this team 1323 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 3: is that, hey, Mitch is still doing his job. He's 1324 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 3: still a great center, a great offensive lineman. He was 1325 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowler this year as well. He made it 1326 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 3: to the Pro Bowl. So I think they've got a 1327 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 3: solid choice in Mitch Morse. I think what you said, Brownie, 1328 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 3: they're addressing the offensive line through guard positions this year. 1329 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:48,680 Speaker 1: They have. 1330 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 3: They've had guys at the guard spots in the last 1331 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 3: few years that have been on short contracts. Roger Saffold 1332 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 3: was on a one year deal, but we saw guys 1333 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 3: be brought in to this building this year that have 1334 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 3: signed more than one year deal, So maybe you're going 1335 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 3: to start to see more solid play at that position 1336 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 3: with guys who are signing three year deals. 1337 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: Deals and a different you know, body composition as well, 1338 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: bigger girthier guards who can push the pile. I mean 1339 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 1: McGovern is a good pass protector, but you know he 1340 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: can move people in the run game as well. And 1341 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 1: then we all know what Osiris Torrance is calling card 1342 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: has been all through college. He is a people mover 1343 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: as well, So I think he's going to be very 1344 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: stiff competition for a guy like Ryan Bates, who uses 1345 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: athleticism more than anything else to be an effective offensive linement. Now, 1346 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 1: as far as Morse and you know who would back 1347 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: him up, you're looking at Ryan Bates, You're looking at 1348 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: Ike Butcker, you're looking at Greg Mans who is back 1349 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: with the team as well after being on the practice 1350 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: squad for most of the last season. So that's kind 1351 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: of how you chop that position up behind Mitch Morris. 1352 01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: But I don't anticipate a change there anytime soon. Eight 1353 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 1: oh three five fifty the number to get on board 1354 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty the toll 1355 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 1: free number. As we are still taking your phone calls. 1356 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: We're wide open throughout today, as we're asking for that 1357 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: one roster position that you think could still use a 1358 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: little tweaking between now and the time we get to 1359 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,639 Speaker 1: training camp. It was a real hard choice for me, Maddie. 1360 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're kind of splitting hairs here. I know 1361 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: you picked defensive line, and that's a good one to pick, 1362 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 1: not only because you know you can always stand to 1363 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's like Brandon Bean says all the time, 1364 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: you never have enough pass rushers. So I get that. 1365 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: I guess there's a small part of me that wishes 1366 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 1: there was a little more experience at the linebacker position. 1367 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I thought that it was a foregone conclusion that Tremaine 1368 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Edmonds was going to be gone because he was just 1369 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: going to get priced out of Buffalo's range of what 1370 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 1: they could afford to pay him, and that proved to 1371 01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 1: be the case. I just thought they might shoes to 1372 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 1: go with a proven veteran starter, you know, as a 1373 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: stopgap measure or insurance. But I think that's what aj 1374 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Klein is. He's veteran insurance in case a young up 1375 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and comer like Terrell Bernard or Tyrel Dodson or Baale 1376 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: inspector can't assume the role of the starting position. So 1377 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: we'll see. And again, I'm splitting hairs on that, but 1378 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: that's just kind of something that I thought might happen 1379 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: that didn't. But I'm not like, oh my gosh, they're 1380 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: screwed because they didn't do that. So I guess I 1381 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 1: kind of see it as splitting hairs. But let's go 1382 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: back to the phones and to Paul in Arizona, Nex. 1383 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? 1384 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 4: Paul, Hey, how you doing guys? Thanks, I'd taking my call. 1385 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 4: I just wanted to throw in there too that Jim 1386 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 4: Brown also played basketball. Yes, eracuse my dad played against 1387 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 4: My dad played at Pitt and he played a couple 1388 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 4: of years and he actually had averaging double figures in 1389 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 4: fifty five I think six. 1390 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Three sport guy for sure. 1391 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 9: Yeah. So that was it. 1392 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 4: I just go build and we're going to the Chargers game. 1393 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 9: December, oh the night game. 1394 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1395 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 4: So anyways, love your comment, Tater comment, Yeah, blah blah blah. 1396 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 4: Love your comments and have. 1397 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: A good one all right, Thanks Paul, appreciate you chiming 1398 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 1: in on that. Yeahjan Brown was a free sport guy 1399 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: for sure, even at the major college level, which is 1400 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. I think I don't think he played those 1401 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: for all four years. I think Paul just said basketball 1402 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,799 Speaker 1: for only two. I don't know if he played lacrosse 1403 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 1: more than one or two years. But all those coaches 1404 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: were beating down his store. Hey why don't you come 1405 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 1: out and play this because you're great at it? But yeah, 1406 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: I don't I mean getting back to the roster. I 1407 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 1: just I think the roster looks pretty good. But you 1408 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: just don't know what's going to come down the pike, 1409 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: you know. DeAndre Hopkins is still fanning the flames with 1410 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: all the interviews he does these days. Basically asked, as 1411 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier on the show on the I Am 1412 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Athlete Pod, what quarterback would you want throwing to you 1413 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,839 Speaker 1: if you had your choice, and he said Josh Allen first, 1414 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 1: and then he mentioned some others like Lamar and a 1415 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 1: few other guys. But he's got to change his tune 1416 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: on what he's gonna get paid the next two years 1417 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: if he wants something like that to happen, because he 1418 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,560 Speaker 1: just cost too much money, which is why no team 1419 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 1: has even really made a formal offer that we have 1420 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 1: heard of to try to acquire him. And so where 1421 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 1: it goes from here is anybody's yes. 1422 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 3: I think another thing with the depth on this roster, 1423 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 3: surrounding the question that we're asking today, what position do. 1424 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 2: You think still needs tweaking. 1425 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 3: The Bills in a sense last year because of the 1426 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 3: injuries that this team faced, they got to look at 1427 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 3: what their depth was. Like a lot of teams have depth, 1428 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 3: but if they have a healthy season, they don't get 1429 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 3: to see how that depth looks like on the field, 1430 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 3: how it works together, if they believe they have good depth, 1431 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 3: or if they need to get more depth in the 1432 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 3: offseason because your second and third string guys didn't perform 1433 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 3: how you wanted them to perform. So I think one 1434 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,759 Speaker 3: thing that the Bills have on their side, and again 1435 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 3: not a great thing that they had to go through 1436 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 3: so many injuries last year, but Brandon Bean in the 1437 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 3: scouting department and the coaching staff got a really good 1438 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,759 Speaker 3: look at some of their second and third string guys 1439 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 3: on this roster, from the offense to the defense, and 1440 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 3: in some ways you can see how the roster has 1441 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 3: changed with that depth, with maybe guys who you'd think 1442 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,599 Speaker 3: would be second and third string guys this year, there's 1443 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 3: a lot of the same and familiar faces who have 1444 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,000 Speaker 3: been depth on this team and who have been second 1445 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 3: team and third team guys who have been able to 1446 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 3: ride the wave with this group for three or four years. 1447 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,519 Speaker 3: And that's because when they've been called upon, they've answered 1448 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 3: and they've done a good job. But then there's some 1449 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 3: positions that we're seeing some new depth come on to 1450 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,880 Speaker 3: this roster, and like you spoke about, that guard spot 1451 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 3: is a place where we've seen a lot of new 1452 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 3: faces on this roster. One other position I always think 1453 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 3: about that we have seen third string players and second 1454 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 3: team guys get a lot of reps at is in 1455 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 3: the secondary, through the cornerback and the safety injuries. We've 1456 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 3: seen guys go through it, and we've seen guys stay 1457 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 3: on the roster because of that. A player like DeMar 1458 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 3: Hamlin when he was called upon when when he had 1459 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,600 Speaker 3: to play, I know last year he went what he 1460 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 3: went through and we hope that he'll be a part 1461 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,759 Speaker 3: of the roster this year and healthy enough to play. 1462 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 3: But that's a position group that's gotten tested in a 1463 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 3: lot of ways. The corners and the safeties, and and 1464 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 3: Dan Jackson has has earned a spot on this roster 1465 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 3: year after year when you can even go back to 1466 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 3: him competing with Levi Wallace for a position and being 1467 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,799 Speaker 3: there when Trey White wasn't a part of the lineup. 1468 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 3: I am so looking forward to seeing what Trey White 1469 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 3: looks like this year, now that he has a year 1470 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 3: under his belt where he's been able to get back 1471 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 3: to the game, where he's been able to put that 1472 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 3: ACL injury aside and truly compete opposite of Kyri Elam 1473 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 3: And I also wonder what's going to be the case 1474 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,680 Speaker 3: at that corner spot. Is it going to be a 1475 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 3: battle for that spot opposite of Trey White, our Kyeer 1476 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 3: and Dane going to battle it out this season? 1477 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 2: What's that going to? 1478 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,680 Speaker 3: Christ Is Christian Benford part of the mix? As as 1479 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 3: we've heard Brandon Bean say, you know, safety might be 1480 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 3: a spot for him or or we're not sure what 1481 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 3: that's going to look like this year, depending on what 1482 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 3: the depth looks like at each position. 1483 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: And when you were talking about all of that, the 1484 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 1: first name that popped into my head was JaMarcus Ingram. 1485 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: Here's a guy that you probably don't have any knowledge 1486 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: of how he would play if he gets dropped into 1487 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: the fire in a real game. They had to do 1488 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 1: that last year in Week three when they were dropping 1489 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,960 Speaker 1: like flies down in Miami, JaMarcus Ingram played a half 1490 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,679 Speaker 1: of football at outside corner against Tyree Kill, Jalen Waddle 1491 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: and Trent Schurfield. 1492 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 2: I forgot about that, but you're so right. 1493 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 1: But there's that is valuable tape on a young player 1494 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 1: in your pipeline that you probably know a whole lot 1495 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: more about that player now than if he had never 1496 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: played in a regular season game. There'd be a lot 1497 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 1: less to go on. So yeah, the point is well taken. 1498 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: We got to take a break here though, because we 1499 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,920 Speaker 1: are up against it, but we'll be back with more 1500 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: of your phone calls here for the final half hour 1501 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 1: of the show on one Bill's Live. 1502 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:41,680 Speaker 5: Stay tune. All right, welcome back to one Bill's Live. 1503 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Attic Lab with you talking about a roster 1504 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 1: position that might need a little tweaking in your estimation 1505 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: before we get to training camp. Open line for you 1506 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,680 Speaker 1: at eight h three oh five fifty one eight eight 1507 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty the number to get on board. 1508 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 1: We go back to the phones and to Mark and 1509 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: West Seneca. What do you got for us? Mark? 1510 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 11: Hi, guys, Hey, you guys started talking about just a 1511 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,600 Speaker 11: little bit. I'm really interested to see what they do 1512 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 11: at Corner. First question about Corner is Tredavious. Is he 1513 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 11: in the facility? Is he working out here locally or 1514 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 11: is he at home working out does? How does he 1515 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 11: look if you guys have seen him, because we really 1516 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,439 Speaker 11: need him to be back to the old Fordavious light 1517 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 11: if we're going to be moving forward back there. I 1518 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 11: think we have a lot of youth back there. I'd 1519 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 11: be really interested to see if Brandon adds a veteran 1520 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 11: guy to at least compete with all these young kids 1521 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 11: at Corner. And the other part of that is I'd 1522 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,440 Speaker 11: be really interested to see. 1523 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 8: Who he would who he'd bring in. 1524 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 11: Because they've always been very very clear that they only 1525 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,639 Speaker 11: bring in guys that fit their scheme. And if whoever 1526 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,639 Speaker 11: they would bring in, I think would be an indication, 1527 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 11: maybe a little bit of an indication of something kind 1528 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,679 Speaker 11: of players in the scheme that McDermott might be thinking 1529 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,640 Speaker 11: about running with, you know, with new corners back there 1530 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 11: or whatever. And then I just Wanda, we haven't talked 1531 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 11: about it a lot. I want to give Murph well 1532 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 11: wishes and prayers. I know he's still recovering at home 1533 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 11: and we miss him. I hope he's ready for the 1534 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 11: regular season. But if he's not, Brownie, are you still 1535 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 11: in line to do the games? Because he did a 1536 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 11: great job and it was fun. 1537 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 9: To listen to you. 1538 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks for the afternoon. Yeah, I appreciate it. 1539 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,240 Speaker 1: I think we're all, uh, we're all hopeful that Murph 1540 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 1: is back and ready to roll. And you know, he's 1541 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 1: working hard to make the progress he needs to make, 1542 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,600 Speaker 1: and I think they're going to get him all the 1543 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 1: time that he needs, and I think that's kind of 1544 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 1: where it sits right now. As for corner, have you 1545 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 1: seen Trey in the building? I haven't seen him. 1546 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 3: I So this past week we had our weekend is 1547 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 3: we had Rookie Mini Camp recently, so we were able 1548 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 3: to be out on the field for Rookie Mini Camp. 1549 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 3: Tasker and I were out on the field for me 1550 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 3: the first ten minutes. Trey obviously wasn't there for Rookie 1551 01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 3: Mini Camp, but aside from that, when they were doing 1552 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 3: workouts the weeks before Rookie Minnie Camp, I did see 1553 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,679 Speaker 3: Trey a couple times, so he's been around. 1554 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,600 Speaker 2: I have not seen him today, but we didn't have 1555 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 2: seen Yeah, we didn't have open availability at all today. 1556 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:15,759 Speaker 2: They tomorrow they did. 1557 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 3: Practice, but will know tomorrow because we have availability tomorrow, 1558 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 3: which means we'll hear from Sean. We're also gonna hear 1559 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,879 Speaker 3: from Josh Allen, and we're gonna hear from John Butler, 1560 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,679 Speaker 3: one of the coaches in the secondary, who will probably 1561 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,680 Speaker 3: talk about Trey White, and we'll get asked some questions 1562 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 3: about Trey White. 1563 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll get to check it out tomorrow. 1564 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,639 Speaker 3: See if Trey White, see if all the other guys 1565 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 3: are out there, but I. 1566 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 2: Haven't seen him. We're on the building here in the 1567 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 2: off season. 1568 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: And as far as as far as you know, adding 1569 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: a veteran corner mark, I kind of have that similar thought. 1570 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 1: And if it's if it hasn't happened yet, there's a 1571 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,959 Speaker 1: part of me that wonders, does that mean a decision 1572 01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 1: has been made on where Christian Benford is gonna lie 1573 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 1: up because I think if he's going to line up 1574 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 1: at corner, maybe they don't add a veteran free agent, 1575 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But if that sense, if 1576 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we go out to OTA's tomorrow 1577 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 1: and there's Benford, you know, lining up at safety, well, 1578 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: then maybe the door is still open for something like 1579 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,080 Speaker 1: that to happen. And there are some good veteran corners 1580 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,679 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, Marcus Peters is out there, William 1581 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,680 Speaker 1: Jackson is out there, Bradley Roby, Casey Hayward. I mean, 1582 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 1: there's some some quality veteran corners that I think, at 1583 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 1: this stage in their career might be willing, you know, 1584 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,600 Speaker 1: to take a reserve position or maybe say hey, you 1585 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,680 Speaker 1: can come in and compete for a starting job, but 1586 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 1: we can't guarantee you a starting job. I think some 1587 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 1: of those guys would sign up for that. Troy Hill, 1588 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's another guy played for the Rams for 1589 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 1: a while. There's a lot of name corners that if 1590 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: you go down the list like, oh, I know that guy, well, 1591 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 1: I've seen that guy play. Like there's more than usual 1592 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 1: out there. So and I think it's due in part 1593 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 1: to the fact that it was a strong corner draft. 1594 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: It was. 1595 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 1: So it's a chance to get cheap labor at a 1596 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 1: position that costs a premium. So how much does the 1597 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,439 Speaker 1: cost come down to maybe get a proven veteran corner 1598 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 1: on a budget, you might be able to do that. 1599 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,759 Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying it's predicated on where Benford 1600 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: ends up, but I wonder if that's part of the 1601 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 1: equation here. And if he ends up at corner, maybe 1602 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 1: the Bills say, you know what, we're good there, we're good, 1603 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 1: we got the depth we need. But if maybe they 1604 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 1: slide him over to safety, does that change things? Well, 1605 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see what tomorrow shows us. 1606 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be interesting, and it'll have to fit the 1607 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 3: bill of what Brandon Bean wants to spend on that 1608 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 3: position if he were to add another player to that 1609 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 3: position group, to the cornerback's position group. Again, we know 1610 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 3: the Bills aren't working with a lot of money that's 1611 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 3: left over, and Brandon Bean was saying this before they 1612 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 3: had signed the rookie class. Now all the rookies are signed, 1613 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 3: so they're working with even less money now. And where 1614 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 3: do you allocate the money that's left Is corner a 1615 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:06,599 Speaker 3: position that Brandon Bean thinks it has a need or 1616 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 3: maybe another spot available to be able to bring somebody on, 1617 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,719 Speaker 3: or is that at another position group? Is that on offense, 1618 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,680 Speaker 3: is that on defense? You know our question today, what 1619 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 3: position do you think still needs tweaking? We open the 1620 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,439 Speaker 3: show and you said, I think we all know Brandon 1621 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 3: Bean well enough by now to know that he's really 1622 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 3: never done tweaking. There's there's always tweaking that's happening. And 1623 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 3: if there's somebody that's out there that he thinks could 1624 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 3: be able to add to this group or add to 1625 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:42,720 Speaker 3: the the competition that's going to happen here through out 1626 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 3: OTAs in training camp, heck yeah, he's gonna do it 1627 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 3: because it's going to make the players better. 1628 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,080 Speaker 2: A who are part of that competition? 1629 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,600 Speaker 3: Where is it going to be because this roster is 1630 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 3: at a point where you're paying your top tier guys 1631 01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 3: and you can't afford everybody anymore. 1632 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet on what position you 1633 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 1: think still needs tweaking? Brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 1634 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, where 1635 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Jack says would still love to add a big fish 1636 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and wide receiver, but that ship has probably sailed. I 1637 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind adding another defensive end. I like the idea 1638 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 1: of Frank Clark for depth and competition, especially if Vaughn 1639 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: needs time to get back and he knows the Chiefs, 1640 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: so that's a bonus. 1641 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1642 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,679 Speaker 1: I mean it's like we said earlier. Brandon has said 1643 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 1: it himself. You can never have enough defensive ends or 1644 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 1: never enough pass rushers, I believe was the direct quote. Yeah, 1645 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 1: Frank Clark. I wonder what his injury situation is because 1646 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,320 Speaker 1: they've cropped up the last couple of years. I know 1647 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 1: he just was a cap casualty of the Chiefs. That's why, Yeah, 1648 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: he's not there anymore. What's his price, I think is 1649 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: the bigger question, And I don't know that it's come 1650 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,439 Speaker 1: down enough for the Bills to be able to handle it. 1651 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest question mark there. From hot 1652 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 1: in Arizona, I still don't they have solved for Edmunds leaving. 1653 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't see anyone that is currently on the team 1654 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 1: able to fill those shoes. That is one of the 1655 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 1: bigger questions going into the twenty twenty three season. Do 1656 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 1: they have a viable full time replacement for Tremaine Edmunds 1657 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,759 Speaker 1: on this roster? The competition will reveal who has chosen 1658 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,639 Speaker 1: to fill the role. Then the next question is can 1659 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 1: they fill it as well as Edmunds did. 1660 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when you look at that linebacker spot, 1661 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 3: I think one thing that I thought of even before 1662 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmunds is leaving, is you hope that they can 1663 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,040 Speaker 3: keep a guy like him. They couldn't because of the 1664 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 3: price tag that he got paid because of what he was. 1665 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 2: Worth, which that's amazing for Tremaine Edmunds. 1666 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,639 Speaker 3: I hope he has a great career however long he's 1667 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:44,799 Speaker 3: with the Chicago Bears. 1668 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:46,680 Speaker 2: But then you think about, Okay. 1669 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 3: Then what is the value of that middle linebacker position 1670 01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 3: according to how the coaching staff thinks of it within 1671 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 3: the defense that they play. 1672 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 2: What's the most valuable? 1673 01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 3: Where are they putting their money in to position groups 1674 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 3: across different defensive positions. And I start to look at 1675 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 3: not that the middle linebacker spot is not valuable. It 1676 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,719 Speaker 3: is very valuable in this defense because they're the captain 1677 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 3: of the defense. And if you're having two guys, you 1678 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 3: know you're playing in a four to two five A 1679 01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 3: lot of the time. The two guys on the field 1680 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 3: need to be really good at what they're doing. But 1681 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,840 Speaker 3: the fact that they didn't add a veteran or they 1682 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 3: didn't draft somebody a linebacker at the top of the draft, 1683 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,439 Speaker 3: whether that was first, second, or third round. Then you wonder, Okay, 1684 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 3: is this position group is this defense going to look 1685 01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 3: any different this year because they didn't add a veteran 1686 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 3: because they didn't spend big draft money on a middle linebacker, 1687 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,799 Speaker 3: position group or position player. 1688 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you also wonder is there a possibility that 1689 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: they use more than one player to fill that spot? 1690 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Like does aj Klein play on quote unquote rundowns? And 1691 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,880 Speaker 1: does Terrell Bernard or Bile inspector play on passing downs? 1692 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,640 Speaker 1: Like There's a whole number of possibilities that could come 1693 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 1: out of the competition. We're all just gonna have to 1694 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,960 Speaker 1: wait and to see how it all shakes out under 1695 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 1: this coaching staff. Break time here, Maddy and I wrap 1696 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 1: it up with some final thoughts on the tweet sheet 1697 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 1: next year on One Bill's Live presented by kaleide A Health, 1698 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Hills Radio. Some time left for some more 1699 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Vanilla says Our edges on offense and defense 1700 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 1: need a lead talent. We need way better pass pro 1701 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,720 Speaker 1: out of both offensive tackles. On defense, we need to 1702 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,640 Speaker 1: get home with four and without Miller, we have just 1703 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys no stud. I will disagree with 1704 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,120 Speaker 1: you there. I think Greg Russo has the potential to 1705 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,840 Speaker 1: be a stud. I think people forget this guy had 1706 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,880 Speaker 1: four sacks in his first four games, then got the 1707 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain and he really wasn't right the rest 1708 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 1: of the year. If that guy can stay healthy, I 1709 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 1: expect a year three jump from him. And I'll say 1710 01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 1: this too, I think you Spencer Brown year three, I 1711 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 1: think you can expect a year three jump from him. 1712 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,000 Speaker 1: We've seen so many players under this regime really take 1713 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:09,799 Speaker 1: off in year three, Dawson, Knox, Tarren Johnson, even Tremaine 1714 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,439 Speaker 1: Edmonds to a certain extent, Josh Allen three. I mean, 1715 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, There's so many year three examples. 1716 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:20,920 Speaker 1: I really hope if Spencer Brown and you know, Russeau 1717 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 1: can put it together, that'd be great. 1718 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1719 01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 3: I expect steps up from them and big ears from them. 1720 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,600 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see both those younger players and what 1721 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:29,080 Speaker 3: they can do. 1722 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 1: Maddie, Thanks for you help. The last couple of days, 1723 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: we'll all be out on the field for ot as. 1724 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 1: For full coverage on Buffalo bills dot Com and here, 1725 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,800 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live, We'll see you tomorrow. One Steve's Back,