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Speaker 1: down Ricky's old house. Welcome to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined and
Speaker 1: we're filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg
Speaker 1: Rosehal What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Oh? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: flagship show bud Light. I said, you know that Erica
Speaker 1: is back. When the Matt money Smith opener line, all
Speaker 1: the all the aspects of the show where there's some
Speaker 1: sort of pick and shoes dynamic to it become Erica centric. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: am I wrong? No? Up? Eric is here physically, she's
Speaker 1: sitting behind the glass, but after a European jaunt, she's not.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say she's all the way checked in. Fair
Speaker 1: to say Erica at this point? Um, No, I do
Speaker 1: my job really well and I show up and when
Speaker 1: I clock in, I'm here, Dan, so ready to go
Speaker 1: that clock? How's that t We do not need any
Speaker 1: more sound effects of you drinking from that cup again
Speaker 1: on this show. Get it done Now is a real thing.
Speaker 1: I think Mark has it. Yeah, I have it, and
Speaker 1: you exacerbate it at every turn by apathy is helping me.
Speaker 1: Mark Assessor has a lot apathy doesn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of apathy. Is that not gross to anyone else? It's
Speaker 1: not gross to me? All right, I enjoy your bitter
Speaker 1: beer face. All right? Well, Week seven? What what? What
Speaker 1: a day it's been. Ryan Tannehill's back in our life
Speaker 1: and he's a winner against all odds. Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that. We have the undefeated. Uh, undefeated team
Speaker 1: stays undefeated. Some winless teams stay winless. So so much
Speaker 1: to get to. And we'll cap it off with Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football and a huge, huge moment for Chris Westling
Speaker 1: who is looking to get off the lock Schneide in
Speaker 1: a big spot. Uh and in primetime. So a lot
Speaker 1: to get to. You guys want to start digging into
Speaker 1: the show, Let's do it. And let's start with a
Speaker 1: team that's as hot as any team in football, going
Speaker 1: on the road to Soldier Field, Saints Football. Baby Bridgewater
Speaker 1: under center, puts thrown out to the side Taysom Hill,
Speaker 1: Croft line touchdown Tyson Hill. It's a little variation of
Speaker 1: your coolie ball there and swing it out to Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1: He puts his head down and good luck stopping that load.
Speaker 1: Where the head of students. You have to know where
Speaker 1: number seven is in the rents on like this. Now
Speaker 1: about that Zach Streep and deuce McAllister with the call
Speaker 1: get rid of that generic slop bringing Sam Spence NFL
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Speaker 1: but you can try. I'm out the door if you do.
Speaker 1: Save that voice right out. Eddy Bridgewater through for two
Speaker 1: one two touchdowns, including mark to your boy Taysom Hill,
Speaker 1: and the Saints approved a five and oh without Drew
Speaker 1: Brees win over the Bears. Don't pay that final score
Speaker 1: here any mind. The final score is a disgrace because
Speaker 1: this game was as one sided as it gets marked.
Speaker 1: Oh yes it was. You're absolutely right. This is one where,
Speaker 1: for different reasons than sometimes the box score translates into
Speaker 1: an ultra lie because before you know, garbage time said
Speaker 1: it a total disgrace. This we could we can turn
Speaker 1: negative on the Bears in a minute. I will say
Speaker 1: I think this game was a decisive turning point in
Speaker 1: the Mattenegy Mitch Robinsky experience, and it had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with a better coach and a better coach
Speaker 1: team coming into Chicago and completely ignoring whatever aspect you
Speaker 1: wanted to hand to the Bears before. This wasn't their defense. No,
Speaker 1: it won't be the Bears defense because the Saints offensive line,
Speaker 1: one of the best in football, is gonna come in
Speaker 1: and handle Khalil mac and everyone else and pound them
Speaker 1: for four hundred plus yards a hundred and fifty plus
Speaker 1: on the ground, and without Drew Brees in the lineup,
Speaker 1: without Alvin Kamara, it doesn't matter. Teddy Bridgewater, you know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're halfway through this game and he's missed a bunch
Speaker 1: of throws and he's giving you what you're expecting from
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. But he doesn't turn the ball over. He
Speaker 1: manages this team. Latavius Murray on the ground did just
Speaker 1: enough and in every single aspect you could ask, the
Speaker 1: Saints dominated They had nearly the ball for nearly forty minutes,
Speaker 1: and in the defense is an absolutely phenomenal defense. I
Speaker 1: will say this, Chicago, when you're gonna go out there
Speaker 1: and with minutes to go before this thing turned into
Speaker 1: garbage time nonsense. Had nine drives of less than ten
Speaker 1: yards fewer than ten yards, and it is fair to
Speaker 1: look at the Mitchell Drabinsky experience along with everything around him.
Speaker 1: It's not just him alone, but he's not surrounded with
Speaker 1: a lot of people to help him out. There had
Speaker 1: about seventeen yards rushing in this disaster of a game.
Speaker 1: Ms Robinsky is missing throws and doing all the things
Speaker 1: that are tied to the negative aspects of his career.
Speaker 1: This was a huge game. They are now three and three.
Speaker 1: I don't I think if you're a Bears fan, you
Speaker 1: go to bed tonight with a lot of deep seated
Speaker 1: concerns about your team and where they're going. It's a
Speaker 1: terrible look for the Bears. I mean because, like you
Speaker 1: just said, no Drew Brees, but we already know that
Speaker 1: the Saints can win without Drew Brees. We've been seeing
Speaker 1: it for a month plus. No Alvin Kamara. Now that's
Speaker 1: at the point where you think no Jared Cooking. There
Speaker 1: no Jared Cooking. He made big play. I mean, this
Speaker 1: was a game where you should have seen a compromise
Speaker 1: Saints team struggle in all phases, but instead, well, Tavias
Speaker 1: Murray gave you more than just enough. He goes for
Speaker 1: a hundred nineteen yards and two scores. Alvin Kamara going
Speaker 1: to be able to do much better, I'm sure. And
Speaker 1: and so the Saints are is in greatest shape as
Speaker 1: you can get. And we heard during the telecast um
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman spoke on the field with Drew Brees, who
Speaker 1: didn't rule out the possibility that he'd be back before
Speaker 1: the bye. Sounds like that's the plan, which is just
Speaker 1: more good news for the Saints. And yeah, and back
Speaker 1: to the Bears Trabisky, who I think there's two ways
Speaker 1: to look at it. And you could say, all right,
Speaker 1: he just got back from the injury. Let's be a
Speaker 1: little bit more patient. But then there's also the side
Speaker 1: of it where it's just like the confidence looks like
Speaker 1: it might be shot. And maybe the garbage time helped here,
Speaker 1: but the concience is shot. And in general the Bears
Speaker 1: that they just don't look like a team that feels
Speaker 1: itself at all. Right now, No, last year, I argued
Speaker 1: to give the guy time to develop. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a new system. He's only in his first year starting
Speaker 1: let him develop, and he's gone backwards. It's sort of
Speaker 1: like Marcus Mariotta accept accelerated, he's regressed in his second year.
Speaker 1: And I I think at this point the Bears have
Speaker 1: to start looking around for other they were down in
Speaker 1: if you can, I mean, I don't know what's out there, fools.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotte is out there and his offensive the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator in Chicago is a former coach of the Oregon Ducks.
Speaker 1: How about that put it together? Uh, here's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: the entire Bears team has regressed in Robinsky is number
Speaker 1: one among them, but the offensive line has been terrible
Speaker 1: all game. They don't have a running game, and the
Speaker 1: defense is not as good. I know they had a
Speaker 1: couple of splashy games, but when you're giving up long
Speaker 1: drives to Joe Flacco and you're giving up a couple
Speaker 1: of really long drives to Derek Carr in the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I mean they've been a very good defense, a top
Speaker 1: five defense entering today. But top five isn't the same
Speaker 1: as number one by far, and so that puts more
Speaker 1: pressure on your offense. And I think one of the
Speaker 1: most memorable things of the season happened today in Chicago.
Speaker 1: The crowd chanting Teddy, Teddy Teddy for Teddy Bridgewater in Chicago.
Speaker 1: That's the Saints fans showing up on the road. I
Speaker 1: mean that is that is something else. And John Payton's
Speaker 1: gonna get his first coach of the year since his
Speaker 1: first year in the league, which ended uh with a
Speaker 1: loss in Chicago. He deserves it. I know that there's
Speaker 1: Belichick and everyone else, but there are little things that
Speaker 1: Sean Payton does. You know, other coaches even if they
Speaker 1: they they throw the challenge flag and then you know
Speaker 1: it totally beguiled when it doesn't go their way. Paid
Speaker 1: through an early one in this game that went the
Speaker 1: Saints way and kept it took took a big chunk
Speaker 1: of yardage away from Chicago. It mattered these little things
Speaker 1: that he does in the way that he just scripts
Speaker 1: the offense differently week to week depending on who's in there.
Speaker 1: And it was it was like a game where it's
Speaker 1: Matt Nigy. We both have backup quarterbacks. You presume yours
Speaker 1: as a starter. I know mine isn't, but we're still
Speaker 1: gonna go in and school you. And before we move on,
Speaker 1: my my final thought, and I've had this thought all season,
Speaker 1: and sports can be humbling, but I keep thinking back
Speaker 1: to the summer and the hubris of the Bears who
Speaker 1: brought in the nine kickers and this general feeling from
Speaker 1: outside the team like they thought, if we just got
Speaker 1: a guy who could put it through the uprights in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, we will be playing in February. Well it's
Speaker 1: not always that easy, and we're seeing that right now
Speaker 1: because this team has so many more problems than they
Speaker 1: thought they did, and we'll see if they could dig
Speaker 1: themselves out. But it is not looking too hot right now.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Not too hot. Jackson was first in
Speaker 1: the backfield. This is gonna be a quarterback run. Jackson
Speaker 1: takes a snap, runs the right, He's got a scene,
Speaker 1: he's still five, he's in touch up Lamar Jackson, Penna
Speaker 1: Ravens had taken the lead. Again. That was old school
Speaker 1: single wing and that was a straight up wildcat play.
Speaker 1: Great time out, great decision, great execution, and the Ravens
Speaker 1: are back in front. And that was on fourth down.
Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky, Dennis Pitta, Dennis Petta, nice help his hips. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that thing was That was a real that game a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble. Yes it did. And Jared Johnson w
Speaker 1: b a L with the call m VP watch let r.
Speaker 1: Jackson ran for a hundred sixteen yards and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: made some big throws and took the Ravens to an
Speaker 1: easy thirty to sixteen win. Yeah, easy over the Seahawks
Speaker 1: at the clink. West, This game did nothing for you
Speaker 1: until Lamar got hot. It wasn't easy for two and
Speaker 1: a half quarters, and it wasn't easy to watch the game.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a whole lot going on. And then that
Speaker 1: sequence that we're talking about the red zone in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Uh, Lamar Jackson set it up with a
Speaker 1: really nice pass to Mark Andrews down the sideline, maybe
Speaker 1: his best path past of the day. And then kJ
Speaker 1: Wright and knocked a touchdown out of Mark Andrew's hands.
Speaker 1: Then Mark Andrews just flat out dropped the ball. Got
Speaker 1: to be third and fifteen. Lamar Jackson scrambles for about
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half yards on third and fifteen, so
Speaker 1: it's fourth and two and they send out Justin Tucker
Speaker 1: for the field goal, only to call a time out
Speaker 1: and give credit to John Harbor who has stood up
Speaker 1: at the podium and said, this is what's going on
Speaker 1: with our analytics department. This is what I believe in,
Speaker 1: this is how I'm calling plays now. Were aggressive the
Speaker 1: eight yard rush on fourth two for a touchdown. The
Speaker 1: confidence Lamar Jackson, the way Lamar Jackson played, and in
Speaker 1: that sequence, there was also a play where they didn't
Speaker 1: get the ball off in time and it was a
Speaker 1: shotgun and Lamar Jackson was as demonstrative as any quarterback
Speaker 1: you'll ever see, upset with the center. Uh, the center
Speaker 1: snapped it late anyway, Lamar is mid air jumping, snapped
Speaker 1: to his ankles and he still caught it while he's
Speaker 1: like midair. It was amazing athletic play. But how demonstrative
Speaker 1: he was and how much he cared in that situation,
Speaker 1: and he took over from there. The Seahawks defense was
Speaker 1: so frustrated by his scrambling ability, his legs, and you
Speaker 1: could see they just sort of had no answer for him.
Speaker 1: The rest of the way. Well, they played football unlike
Speaker 1: any other team in the league and on some level,
Speaker 1: any other team that's ever played. Because he's he's on
Speaker 1: his way to setting the all time rushing record for
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's on pace for almost he's unpasted. To
Speaker 1: show matter, he only completed nine passes today. That would
Speaker 1: have been better as certainly if Mark Andrews had caught
Speaker 1: his passes. But the thing I think, if you're a
Speaker 1: Ravens fan that you like is I think the defense
Speaker 1: has been getting a little bit better each week. And
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters makes a big pick six today for them. Uh,
Speaker 1: that came in handy well along with Lamar Jackson. The
Speaker 1: other story of the game was it looked like Wink
Speaker 1: Martindale was finally calling plays like he trusted his secondary again.
Speaker 1: He he said, I'm gonna bring the house and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play man defense back here, and then we're gonna change.
Speaker 1: We're gonna dare the Seahawks to do it. And the
Speaker 1: Seahawks office one offense. One of the reasons why I
Speaker 1: can't really get behind them is I never know what
Speaker 1: their offense is. It just seems to be like, let's
Speaker 1: roll out the footballs and have Russell Wilson make magic.
Speaker 1: What happens when he doesn't make magic? I mean that's
Speaker 1: and that happened until this game, right, And that's why
Speaker 1: Wilson a lot of people when they talk about who's
Speaker 1: an MVP favorite, he's been the other top of the
Speaker 1: list because every week he's been carrying this team. So
Speaker 1: that's why the Ravens we talked about this on the
Speaker 1: Thursday preview. Um, their defense is not good this year,
Speaker 1: and to look at the final stat line, Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: one less than six yards per attempt, he threw a
Speaker 1: pick six. This is stuff that has been completely fourig
Speaker 1: into the twenty nineteen season. Anyone making Russell Wilson look human,
Speaker 1: So that I mean, that's a huge credit to Wink
Speaker 1: and company. Yeah, a defense that's been influx and they've
Speaker 1: made a lot of change changes just in the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. The early results today were the changes
Speaker 1: worked great. I I know, I know he was only
Speaker 1: sacked one time, Russell Wilson, but I feel like every
Speaker 1: time I looked up, the Ravens were in his face
Speaker 1: and making life difficult. And Gregg, you mentioned that the
Speaker 1: reporting out there was that the Ravens, if they were
Speaker 1: gonna trade from Marcus Peters, wanted him right away for
Speaker 1: this game, and he made a huge difference. And the
Speaker 1: Ravens of that kind of team, when they make a trade,
Speaker 1: it's not just to generate headlines. It's because it's a
Speaker 1: missing piece it fits. I think the next missing piece
Speaker 1: for them might be a wide receiver. We mentioned that
Speaker 1: on Thursday. I'd like to see something else in the
Speaker 1: passing game. But when you're gonna run the ball thirty
Speaker 1: five times nearly six yards per carry, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just ride this out well. And Humphrey and
Speaker 1: Peters is a legit combo. And even when you know
Speaker 1: when they get Jimmy Smith back, that'll be even better.
Speaker 1: Josh Bines to think who used to play for Detroit
Speaker 1: and has had moments I think has helped out the
Speaker 1: middle of this defense. I don't know why he went
Speaker 1: on signed during the off season. I thought he was
Speaker 1: one of the Cardinals best defensive players last year. That
Speaker 1: report was from Adam Schefter, by the way, and it
Speaker 1: is really interesting that he reported. All this trade stuff
Speaker 1: happened this week with a call from the Rams to
Speaker 1: the Browns because they wanted Joel the Tonio for Marcus Peters.
Speaker 1: They said no, they ended up. You know, I'm making
Speaker 1: a lower level trade to the Rams. They call, they
Speaker 1: call up the Ravens, and the Ravens said, yeah, we
Speaker 1: want Peters, but we want them this week. We want
Speaker 1: this trade to be finished in the next couple of
Speaker 1: hours or else we're not going to do it. And
Speaker 1: it all happened very fast. I mean, you give up Joel,
Speaker 1: But who's who's guarding Baker Mayfield my little pony right now?
Speaker 1: I think that was good by the Browns. He didn't
Speaker 1: need to do that. I'd like to see that. I
Speaker 1: don't need to see that cartoon. Big win five and
Speaker 1: two right now. They put themselves put some distance. I
Speaker 1: believe Cleveland Market two and four is in second place,
Speaker 1: and it's a huge upset at this point with the
Speaker 1: way the four teams in that division are playing at
Speaker 1: Baltimore does not handled their business, however, I agree. But however,
Speaker 1: I just looked at their schedule and they have the
Speaker 1: Patriots next week, then at Cincinnati. There you go Texans
Speaker 1: at Rams, Niners at bill So this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough stretch for them. They have the flip of
Speaker 1: what some of the other teams in that division had.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a rough schedule for a bunch
Speaker 1: of those North teams. They've done a nice job setting
Speaker 1: themselves up for that really tough stretch and this was
Speaker 1: part of that tough stretch and they got it done.
Speaker 1: Let's check in on a huge division showdown. First down
Speaker 1: year midfield for the Houston Texas. Watson backs the throw.
Speaker 1: We's got time, STAPs up in the pocket, wheels a
Speaker 1: deep down field and it's pottled and it's in pen plates.
Speaker 1: They they're gonna say, what do we got? We go
Speaker 1: the intersection by the Cults, intersection by the Cults, kick
Speaker 1: CUTI bottled it and then the ball took up from
Speaker 1: the air. Something about Nilus. Here's Terius letters. Letter comes
Speaker 1: out with the drill. Co put the interception the second
Speaker 1: I n the ball game for the Colts. Lets you
Speaker 1: do it? What is everyone laughing about? I will tell
Speaker 1: you in a minute. I don't want to We'll get there.
Speaker 1: It's Matt Taylor Radio Network. And yes, Darius Leonard back
Speaker 1: in the lineup, and he comes up with the game
Speaker 1: uh deciding interception. But to me, this game was about
Speaker 1: Jake Breast. Jake Briskett, You're a star kid, at least
Speaker 1: you were on Sunday. Jacoby precent through for three six
Speaker 1: yards and a career high four touchdowns, leading the Colts
Speaker 1: past the Houston Texans thirty three, and with the wind,
Speaker 1: the Colts move into sole possession of first place in
Speaker 1: the a f C South. And and you know what,
Speaker 1: as we near the midpoint of this season. You know
Speaker 1: it will be week eight come Thursday. Um, you could
Speaker 1: not ask for a better situation if you're a Colts fan,
Speaker 1: for Andrew Luck to step away and leave the game
Speaker 1: right on the eve of the season and then to
Speaker 1: be ahead of everyone in your division and gaining confidence
Speaker 1: by the week. Um. A huge win obviously a week
Speaker 1: ago against the Chiefs. Now another big brand name taken
Speaker 1: out in the Texans, and their schedule really softens up ahead,
Speaker 1: so they have a chance to not only now that
Speaker 1: their head, they have a chance to put them in
Speaker 1: position to really put the heat on Houston to just
Speaker 1: to keep up with them if they can take care
Speaker 1: of their own business. And um, I my, my big
Speaker 1: takeaway from what they did that was different this week is,
Speaker 1: like I said, Jake Brisket played so well. This has
Speaker 1: been a team that has runned the football, played good defense,
Speaker 1: got good coaching, and moved the ball through the air
Speaker 1: when they had to. Well, this was a game where
Speaker 1: they couldn't really run the ball and they needed Jake
Speaker 1: Briskett to do something special and he did. And that's
Speaker 1: a huge lift for this team. I was laughing because
Speaker 1: we do these hits for Sky Sky Sports UM in
Speaker 1: the UK, and if you're on the way the process works,
Speaker 1: it's it's a bit tedious. We have to send an
Speaker 1: email saying here's what we're gonna talk about this podcast.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not saying it's not, it's just that it's
Speaker 1: just that it's email based and I and I basically
Speaker 1: it's my job, like in this case, to send over
Speaker 1: here's what Dan's gonna talk about, and and they can
Speaker 1: they will throw to us based off of these sentences
Speaker 1: that we send. And I was meant to say for Dan,
Speaker 1: the cults one in a very different way today and
Speaker 1: all they wrote was they want they want in a
Speaker 1: different way today. So like seconds before we're on the air,
Speaker 1: you know, Alex Mason, our beloved producer there is saying, Dan,
Speaker 1: who on earth was it that you were to say?
Speaker 1: I didn't do it And it just wasn't melt. Sorry,
Speaker 1: It's like my two young sons pointing at each other
Speaker 1: when there's a spilled milk on the ground or something. Right.
Speaker 1: Um anyway, Yes, big win for the cults. I love
Speaker 1: when teams going to the bye week and you can
Speaker 1: see when they come out of the bye week that
Speaker 1: they had some ideas about how they're going to attack differently,
Speaker 1: and I think the Cults knew what their reputation was there,
Speaker 1: the slowest pay beast offense in the league. They're the
Speaker 1: offense that's going deep down the field and not explosive
Speaker 1: most of the league. And they come out of that
Speaker 1: bye week and they throw the ball around and it works,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I think it's really key and
Speaker 1: who knows if they'll stay healthy. But we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the Colts defense all year this today we did. Sheared
Speaker 1: Dniko Autrey, Darius Leonard all back on the field at
Speaker 1: the same time. And for defense that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: ton of talent, I think it's important that they're healthy
Speaker 1: because all those guys play almost every single snap, even
Speaker 1: on the defensive one Darius Lennard jumped right in tent
Speaker 1: tackles seven solos, a pick that changed the game at
Speaker 1: the end. I do think he would have been Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year one, two or three candidate had
Speaker 1: he not suffered this concussion. Credit to the Colts beat
Speaker 1: writers who have been pumping up Zack Pascal since training camp.
Speaker 1: He goes hundred six yards and two touchdowns today. What
Speaker 1: what did the Colts do or what did you see
Speaker 1: out of your boy Watson? Uh? Yeah, at this point
Speaker 1: the Texans being held to twenty three points is like,
Speaker 1: I see that as a great job at a defense.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it was we you know, we just talked
Speaker 1: about you don't want to always depend on like in Seattle,
Speaker 1: for your quarterback to have to put on the Superman cape.
Speaker 1: But Watson, like Wilson, is one of the few guys
Speaker 1: that can pull it off. He just didn't do it
Speaker 1: this time. He threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: One was a terrible throw when he threw off his
Speaker 1: back foot across his body into the flat for an
Speaker 1: easy pick. And then they got off the field immediately. Uh,
Speaker 1: to keep them in the game. And it was a
Speaker 1: two score game. And um, he throws a pass a
Speaker 1: little bit high to Kiki who maybe should have had
Speaker 1: the ball, but it wasn't put on the numbers. Um,
Speaker 1: they would have more points if the game officials didn't
Speaker 1: bang Watson on in the grasp call where he did
Speaker 1: an amazing job because he's one of the great athletes
Speaker 1: in the sport of staying on his feet with people
Speaker 1: trying to drag him down. Hits DeAndre Hopkins for for six.
Speaker 1: They wave it off because they decided he was in
Speaker 1: the grasp. I don't really get the ruling. I know
Speaker 1: it's done to protect quarterbacks, but usually in that situation,
Speaker 1: the quarterback gets opt anyway, um and it costs them
Speaker 1: four points as it turned out. So and that turned
Speaker 1: out to be a big deal. But Watson was good,
Speaker 1: not great, and this is a game where they needed
Speaker 1: him to be great, and uh, it wasn't that. I
Speaker 1: thought they'd have a chance to maybe, you know, run
Speaker 1: away with this division. That seems a lot less likely now.
Speaker 1: They do get the Colts on I believe it's a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, but they also play the Ravens and
Speaker 1: the Patriots, all those teams kind of battling for seeding. Well,
Speaker 1: Dan talked about this cult schedule. Their next four games,
Speaker 1: three home games. In that four they play Broncos, Steelers, Dolphins, Jags.
Speaker 1: You can't draw it up much better than that. In
Speaker 1: consistency continues to haunt the Texans because I feel like
Speaker 1: every eight or nine days we're talking about how amazing
Speaker 1: they look and how they're a real threat, and then
Speaker 1: they drop one of these games, which I wouldn't call
Speaker 1: it a stinker. Going on the road and losing to
Speaker 1: a good colts team in the competitive games. Not the
Speaker 1: end of the world. But they committed ten penalties. Uh,
Speaker 1: they had the two turnovers. They they had three um,
Speaker 1: they had three drives where they went into deep into
Speaker 1: Cults territory and had to settle for field goal. Uh.
Speaker 1: They just need to be sharper and really kind of
Speaker 1: start stacking wins like they did last team is like
Speaker 1: the ball though, are they fun to be covering Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brisett and Frank Rank at the Super Bowl? Why not?
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Eric Hebron made the cat one of
Speaker 1: the catches of the year. The one thing with the Texans,
Speaker 1: I'd rather follow a team that hits you with those
Speaker 1: occasional high ceiling moments where you feel like they could
Speaker 1: beat anyone at certain times, then a clunker that's gonna
Speaker 1: go give you ten wins, but they are limited and
Speaker 1: you're just you're fooling yourself if you think they're gonna
Speaker 1: do anything beyond total marginal ten wins season disappearing into
Speaker 1: the midst I think these are both playoff teams and
Speaker 1: I want to be surprised if they play again. AFC
Speaker 1: is a mess. Why not let's move on, Jeff the
Speaker 1: Rudgers rain balls right, No, he's stick kind of bounds. Apparently.
Speaker 1: Apparently it is seven yards touch downstroyed for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Wayne Larity. Look at this song. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: picturing Joe Joe Namath in the hottest club on the
Speaker 1: Upper east Side, just going ham. This feels like French
Speaker 1: Connection Part three or something. What's happening here? I love it.
Speaker 1: Let's play this for every game. The Packers radio network.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers looks like an m v P again. Rogers
Speaker 1: had his best game by far under Matt lap Bleuur,
Speaker 1: throwing for four nine yards five touchdowns, runs for another score.
Speaker 1: Flower Power Backers beat the Raiders at Lamba. The wind
Speaker 1: moves to the pack, the pack to five and one
Speaker 1: keeps him alone the top the NFC North Greg The
Speaker 1: Packers are fun again. Not good news for the rest
Speaker 1: of the NFC. It is not because Aaron Rodgers has
Speaker 1: total command of his offense right now, total command of
Speaker 1: the game. I thought he had it on Monday night.
Speaker 1: I thought that game was one of the best I've
Speaker 1: seen in years from him. The surroundings not as much today.
Speaker 1: It showed up in the statue. They only had the
Speaker 1: ball eight times with Aaron Rodgers. They scored six touchdowns
Speaker 1: in those eight possessions, and he scored on all of them.
Speaker 1: And the sequence to end the first half and to
Speaker 1: start the second half where they had to move down
Speaker 1: the field quickly, to me told you everything. They didn't run,
Speaker 1: they didn't call a running play, and either one of
Speaker 1: those drives, they scored touchdowns in both of those drives.
Speaker 1: In that Kumarro touchdown, he looks off the safety. He
Speaker 1: hits Kumarro down the field. He was living in turkey
Speaker 1: holes today. I mean half of his throws we're just
Speaker 1: beautiful throws that not many quarterbacks could make eight plays
Speaker 1: over twenty yards to six different receivers, so they weren't
Speaker 1: that healthy. Valdes Scantling and Geronimo Allison did play, although
Speaker 1: they were limited. Eight guys caught between two and four passes.
Speaker 1: So it's a bunch of guys, you know. Alan Lazard
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham actually made a couple of plays that
Speaker 1: you unexpect. But he just seems to know everything that's happening.
Speaker 1: On the rushing touchdown that he had he saw where
Speaker 1: the blitz was coming in the middle of their defense,
Speaker 1: he changed the play and he just ran it in
Speaker 1: because it was just that easy. And you know this,
Speaker 1: he wanted this game because, as I pointed out, I
Speaker 1: wanted this game. This is backed by this is backed
Speaker 1: by no evidence. But you knew he was annoyed. Uh
Speaker 1: when Aaron Jones had the four touchdowns on the ground
Speaker 1: that one game, and they had an otherwise great game
Speaker 1: on offense, but Rodgers didn't get the stuff the statute
Speaker 1: because that's how you win. Everybody. He has a funny
Speaker 1: way of showing it adds six touchdowns to the Ledger
Speaker 1: today and all's even Stephen. That first touchdown that he
Speaker 1: had today was to Aaron Jones, and it was a
Speaker 1: back shoulder throw on a corner route by a running back,
Speaker 1: which is just the highest degree of difficulty you could
Speaker 1: have for Jones who had to turn around at the
Speaker 1: last second. Aaron Jones makes some plays every week that
Speaker 1: just blow you away. So it's not that he doesn't
Speaker 1: have any talent around him. He's got Aaron Jones. Where
Speaker 1: are we add on this white jacket that the flower
Speaker 1: wears every that bother you, I mean the Flower can do.
Speaker 1: Aren't anything he wants to do right now? Keep wearing it.
Speaker 1: I I don't like the look, but uh, I have
Speaker 1: to admit when they've been dialing up shot plays like
Speaker 1: they they dialed one up in the first half that
Speaker 1: it ended up being a penalty, but it worked and
Speaker 1: they came out in the second half and you could
Speaker 1: tell it was a Lafleur special. I mean, Tony Romo
Speaker 1: was singing, singing CE poems about the play calling that
Speaker 1: La Fleur had and they knew what they were gonna do.
Speaker 1: First play out of scrimmage and he hits him for
Speaker 1: fifty five yards from go ahead Ramo with C poems,
Speaker 1: Rogers looking like an m v P. I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to go home and watch this on game pass. This
Speaker 1: is the first game of the year where on Sunday,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, I'm I'm definitely cueing that one up
Speaker 1: when I get home. Well, they're an NFC by team
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, and they're just they seem to be.
Speaker 1: You could see it with the offense and little stretches here,
Speaker 1: and they're getting better and better. And the Flower kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of like young al Pacino in like
Speaker 1: the First Godfather, where his voice is crack Lee and
Speaker 1: he's like, wait, you're the lead character of this movie.
Speaker 1: But and you get him ten years later and he's
Speaker 1: like a completely different human being. Maybe that's the arc
Speaker 1: of the Flowers. He starts as someone that we're kind
Speaker 1: of questioningly, what have you said that for ten years
Speaker 1: he might be a totally different dude. The flower is
Speaker 1: gonna keep blooming. I mean, the crazy thing is that
Speaker 1: the Raiders offense played quite well in this game. They
Speaker 1: lost the ball twice with the inside the one yard line,
Speaker 1: once they were stuffed in a goal line stand. Another
Speaker 1: time Derek Carr lost a fumble reaching for it like
Speaker 1: he did a couple of years ago or else this
Speaker 1: they would have had a lead seventeen fourteen with a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes left in the In the first half,
Speaker 1: they went up and down the field pretty easily on
Speaker 1: on the Packers, and I think John Gruen is coaching
Speaker 1: amazingly this year. I mean, Derek Carr doesn't have any
Speaker 1: talent other than Darren Waller around him either, and they
Speaker 1: are just moving up and down the field very methodically.
Speaker 1: But Car, even though his numbers look great in three
Speaker 1: of the first four drives. He was the reason they stopped.
Speaker 1: He missed throws on third down, and when you play
Speaker 1: this kind of like shorten the field, we're only gonna
Speaker 1: have eight possession type of style. When you miss a
Speaker 1: third down throw, it's it's almost like a turnover. And
Speaker 1: he missed a couple to end otherwise good throws, and
Speaker 1: he had that fumble and it was like they were
Speaker 1: no coming back because their defense is offul That's what
Speaker 1: I've been telling you. Wait, let's see if we can
Speaker 1: get through another off season with Crew and not falling
Speaker 1: for some other quarterbacks somewhere by the way, I'm bailing
Speaker 1: on publican sensus. I'm now for losing possession when you
Speaker 1: reach the ball out like a fool and an incredible player,
Speaker 1: great Man having a good season, iamily Man and his numbers.
Speaker 1: He's he's he's closing in on Drew Brees all time
Speaker 1: record for completion percentage. But you've got to be better
Speaker 1: about protecting the football there in that spot that killed
Speaker 1: him changed the game. Their roster isn't good enough for
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and that starts on their defense. But I
Speaker 1: always think it's important in seasons like that when you
Speaker 1: know your roster isn't ready yet to find those building blocks.
Speaker 1: And Darren Waller and Josh Jacobs are stars. Their stars.
Speaker 1: Jacobs is so good today. He ran over Adrian Amos
Speaker 1: on the first play. He had another monster game. Waller
Speaker 1: is amazing. The defense, I think it's just one of
Speaker 1: the four or five worst in the entire NFL. And
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna beat Aaron Rodgers, I think unless
Speaker 1: you have a pass rushing and they do not outside
Speaker 1: of Kleil mac They inherited that. I mean, and there's
Speaker 1: a liver was a long way to go with that defense.
Speaker 1: Although they did draft, you know, a pass rusher with
Speaker 1: the number four overall pick, and he's giving them very
Speaker 1: very little. Max Crosby, their fourth round pick, is giving
Speaker 1: them a lot more. Let's check in on another great
Speaker 1: division battle. One wide receiver in the game for the
Speaker 1: Vikings and sticks to the left second and six Cousins
Speaker 1: play action. He's gonna fire d right side. Yes, Jicks
Speaker 1: caught it at the thirty handles to the left twenty.
Speaker 1: He's prints to the fifteen of the tag, holding on
Speaker 1: tightly to the ball with both hands, and he's taken
Speaker 1: down at the four Stefon Dicks comes up huge on
Speaker 1: a sixty five yard reception. It's first in goal Vikingings
Speaker 1: and look one half. Paul Allen, one of the great
Speaker 1: voices in the National Football League amongst the broadcasters Vikings
Speaker 1: Radio Network. I loved that call. I love it when
Speaker 1: teams have a chance to close out a game and
Speaker 1: they could run the ball through a cloud of dust
Speaker 1: and punted away and hold on for dear life, or
Speaker 1: you could go win a football game, which is what
Speaker 1: they did. Kirk Cousins connects with Stefan digs on that
Speaker 1: sixty seven yard catch and run from deep in their
Speaker 1: own territory with two minutes to play, Cousins through four
Speaker 1: touchdown passes and the Vikings when thirty over the slumping
Speaker 1: Lions who have suddenly lost three in a row, and yes,
Speaker 1: you heard it, their play action. That has become what
Speaker 1: has changed with his offense in these last three weeks
Speaker 1: where Cousins has become the most productive passer in the league.
Speaker 1: UH a stretch where he has completed passes UH throwing
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns against one interception, UH throwing for I think
Speaker 1: yards per game during this winning streak. And it's play action.
Speaker 1: UH and just to give you an idea of how
Speaker 1: much it's been a change and how it's clearly something
Speaker 1: they realized they needed to be taking advantage of. Is
Speaker 1: for the past three games, a hundred and fifty plus
Speaker 1: yards of Cousins total is coming off that play action
Speaker 1: in his let's say, sixteen games last year and whatever
Speaker 1: it was before that four games this year, so about
Speaker 1: twenty games he only did that once. So they realized
Speaker 1: that they weren't taking advantage of what of what should
Speaker 1: be something I could kill defenses, and now they're killing
Speaker 1: defenses with it, and um, West, this is um such
Speaker 1: a far cry from where we were three weeks ago
Speaker 1: when Kirk Cousins was the Capital TV Capital P problem.
Speaker 1: This is why I got excited about the Vikings offense
Speaker 1: coming into the season, because when you have the skill
Speaker 1: talent they have, if they find a way to get
Speaker 1: into that top gear five yards today, well that problem,
Speaker 1: uh combined a couple of perfect storm scenarios that everybody
Speaker 1: always overreacts to the first couple of games of the year.
Speaker 1: So you have the normal September over reaction, and then
Speaker 1: you have whatever it is about Kirk Cousins, where everybody
Speaker 1: insists on a portioning blame to the quarterback after the game.
Speaker 1: No matter who's at fault, it always goes to cousins.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's doing this. I'm glad he's playing
Speaker 1: with more confidence, that he's less timid. That they are
Speaker 1: a balanced offense. And that's what Adam Thalan and Stefan
Speaker 1: Diggs were saying a few weeks ago. We need to
Speaker 1: be balanced because nobody's gonna be afraid of us if
Speaker 1: all we do is run the ball. And you're right,
Speaker 1: then this is the offense you thought you were going
Speaker 1: to see in the summertime. And and Mark's right because
Speaker 1: he sat here two weeks ago and says, show me something, Vikings,
Speaker 1: and they did. They showed you that they they might
Speaker 1: be one of the best teams in the NFC now, well,
Speaker 1: perfectly delightful when they do this and use the weapons
Speaker 1: the way they should get strong to say. Mark was
Speaker 1: right about that. He said they were a team that
Speaker 1: had no chance to win in the playoffs. Maybe they
Speaker 1: could possy Then well, then are you guys are not
Speaker 1: giving him the proper credit for the fact that the
Speaker 1: Vikings are now showing Mark something. Is what's going on, well,
Speaker 1: that's good. Hello? Is that because when you were suggesting
Speaker 1: they can be this the best offense in in football,
Speaker 1: or they're saying they could change and they have, all right,
Speaker 1: But I was suggesting they weren't playing up to their parts,
Speaker 1: and they weren't. They weren't such a good man and
Speaker 1: he's a good friend, but he's bending over backwards here
Speaker 1: on this angle. Well, Mark saved me from locking up
Speaker 1: the Falcons, so I owe him a bunch of compliments.
Speaker 1: I mean, alright, this is becoming absurd, but I will
Speaker 1: say this, they had issues, and I wonder if it
Speaker 1: wasn't maybe Mike Zimmer that at some point in the
Speaker 1: process here had to say my idea of offense needs
Speaker 1: to change. N Stefanski was a guy that other teams wanted,
Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski, I'm assuming was more creative than this
Speaker 1: offense appeared to be with its play calling over the
Speaker 1: first month of the season. So you know, it's not
Speaker 1: all on Kirk Cousins. But they were more than just
Speaker 1: Delvin Cook running forty five times a game. Well, and
Speaker 1: they were playing a defense you can move the ball on.
Speaker 1: The Lions have given up I think more than four
Speaker 1: fifty yards and of opposing offense three three games the
Speaker 1: first time since they went endless and six straight games
Speaker 1: of a hundred plus yards on the ground allowed and
Speaker 1: and the Vikings to their credit, they lose Adam Field
Speaker 1: in to an injury. He might not be able to
Speaker 1: play Thursday night. I think IRV Smith is a guy
Speaker 1: to watch, adding a little more dynamism to their tight
Speaker 1: end position, and IRV Smith gives them that B. C.
Speaker 1: Johnson just makes them all the more dangerous. UM on
Speaker 1: the line side of the ball. We've we've now hit
Speaker 1: the point where teeters over to the negative side. We
Speaker 1: were giving them credit for hanging around, hanging in games
Speaker 1: against really good competition, which is good. It shows that
Speaker 1: they have progressed year one to year two under Patricia.
Speaker 1: And yes, you guys got jobbed. You got jobbed last
Speaker 1: Monday night. Um, it doesn't mean that you certainly should
Speaker 1: have won the game, but it really did work out
Speaker 1: in your favor some of those two UH calls. But again,
Speaker 1: this game was there for the taking and Detroit has
Speaker 1: not been able to find a way to close out
Speaker 1: UH these games. And they're two three and one now.
Speaker 1: They have not one this month because they had to
Speaker 1: buy in there as well. Uh and in the division
Speaker 1: that they play in. And we you know, we just
Speaker 1: talked about how great the Packers were. I think we
Speaker 1: all believe that the Vikings are a team that could
Speaker 1: win eleven plus games potentially. Um, the lie just seem
Speaker 1: like they're in deep trouble now and this was the
Speaker 1: game that they needed and they couldn't get it done.
Speaker 1: They are. Their schedule doesn't ease up, I would say
Speaker 1: down the stretch other than the division schedule, but you
Speaker 1: have to win these You're gonna have to win these
Speaker 1: division games, and you're quickly starting to run out. I
Speaker 1: just think there are a team with some young parts
Speaker 1: that that that you could believe. But they lost what
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson earlier, and this is that their starters
Speaker 1: are fine, but if they get a guy like Carrie
Speaker 1: On Johnson or Darius Slay injured from starter to back
Speaker 1: up is a chasm for this team. Dan, would you
Speaker 1: like to take a sip of your tea? I feel
Speaker 1: like I've kind of blocked you out of that because
Speaker 1: of my issue, But you can always stress the cough button.
Speaker 1: Then you wouldn't You wouldn't hear it, right? Would be
Speaker 1: the considerate does this he there is a point where
Speaker 1: that would be the considerate thing for to do. Really,
Speaker 1: it's hard to hold the cough button and take and
Speaker 1: move your microphone and talks as you've just I mean,
Speaker 1: the struggles we face. The equipment is not cheap, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: So to get crazy with the cough button while you're
Speaker 1: trying to lubricrate, lubricate your throat in a big spot, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to that argument. By the way, that
Speaker 1: Adam Feeland hamstring injury um on Football Night in America,
Speaker 1: your boy Greg Mike Florio reported that they view a
Speaker 1: potentially as more a week to week rather than day
Speaker 1: to day. He ain't playing. They're playing the red Skins
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and he now Florio has tuned in with
Speaker 1: the Vikings closet Vikings fans. Also, if you're playing out there,
Speaker 1: if you're blaming Kirk Cousins for that injury because he
Speaker 1: somehow threw him into the wall, stop it reevaluate your
Speaker 1: life choice. Who's somebody's I saw people blaming Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: for that injury, which they thought was some kind of
Speaker 1: knee in the wall thing. It turned out to be
Speaker 1: a hamstring either way, it wasn't Cousins fault. He's like,
Speaker 1: you want to keep honking and complaining about not getting
Speaker 1: the ball. Here's this wall. Eat the wall, baby, West
Speaker 1: and Cousins are gonna be going on vacation together. It's
Speaker 1: just like constantly, you guys are the kissing Cousins corner,
Speaker 1: going straight to the source. Whatever it is about that guy,
Speaker 1: he rubbed some people wrong to such a degree that
Speaker 1: everything gets blamed on him. No matter what it is.
Speaker 1: You like that, not everybody does U thirteen seconds to go?
Speaker 1: Is this game is all but over? Poor man? Rush
Speaker 1: case to throw heat for the back. Stody shot to
Speaker 1: the nine yard line and I don't do it, and
Speaker 1: the Niners were all slotted over the field. They're looking
Speaker 1: like a bunch of fools out there, Coolly, but they
Speaker 1: they win the game. They win the game, and you
Speaker 1: know whats gonna remember that one day? You want who
Speaker 1: was that? You know who it was? Larry Michael and
Speaker 1: Chris Cooley. Yes, I I pulled. I had Ricky pull
Speaker 1: that because I got some tweets. You gotta check out
Speaker 1: the Redskins called the end of the game, crying in
Speaker 1: their beers that was something Nick Bosasa case Keeno to
Speaker 1: run out the clock belly flopped into a slipping slide celebration.
Speaker 1: Bosa and the Niners get it done in the elements
Speaker 1: driving rain. How come the box scores only showing like
Speaker 1: first quarterstats for case Keeno and heavy win questions, claiming
Speaker 1: an ugly nine zip win over the Redskins marked the
Speaker 1: Niners are six and over the first time since the job.
Speaker 1: No style points were necessary given the conditions. What a beautiful, amazing,
Speaker 1: intriguing game this was. And I'm not saying that in
Speaker 1: a way that I'm not I'm not poking fun at it.
Speaker 1: I truly enjoy these kind of games thrown in occasionally
Speaker 1: to the mix of forty two to thirty six, nine
Speaker 1: to nothing in a game that took two hours in
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes. And I thought to myself, I can't
Speaker 1: remember us being together and watching a game, because this
Speaker 1: is those that I'm looking for, that game special I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. I mean, e quote, this is the most
Speaker 1: amazing thing I've ever seen Mark Seler around, uh you know,
Speaker 1: one o'clock today. We all want different things in life
Speaker 1: and in football, and and this I thought, this has
Speaker 1: got to be the fastest game in a while, and
Speaker 1: I shot a note over to NFL Research and they confirmed,
Speaker 1: at least since the time we've been together, it is.
Speaker 1: And it goes back to Week sixteen of two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine when the Jaguars and Patriots played a game
Speaker 1: that was also two hours and thirty six minutes. The
Speaker 1: reason that happened is because this is the first game
Speaker 1: of the year that I can remember outside of some
Speaker 1: wind in a couple affairs, where the weather absolutely whatever
Speaker 1: game plan anyone went in with, it was absolutely blown
Speaker 1: to pieces by kickoff because the it was you know,
Speaker 1: and if you were watching the video show here or
Speaker 1: you were listening to them, the players jumping in puddles
Speaker 1: at the end from the first quarter on, any time
Speaker 1: a player was brought down to the earth surface, it
Speaker 1: was just a gigantic puddle of wet covering them. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the kind of if you've ever played in that,
Speaker 1: and I have because I played in Pop Warner and
Speaker 1: high school. Guys. Uh, you know, when you're in a
Speaker 1: wet weather affair, you're it's it's both What do you
Speaker 1: mean you played in both levels? Yeah, I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: I played a lot in high school. It's just sort
Speaker 1: of on to be its own podcast. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to work with their The deciding factor here was the
Speaker 1: Niners defense, and it's not a surprise. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge challenge obviously, because Bill Callahan decided to run Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson lake. We thought he would four hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 1: And the Niners though a hundred and fifty four yards
Speaker 1: allowed all game at three point eight yards per carry.
Speaker 1: But I would just throw all stats out of this.
Speaker 1: It really was about one team needing to get hot
Speaker 1: and on one or two tribes and you knew it
Speaker 1: was over. And the Niners too that Jimmy g had
Speaker 1: ten yards passing at half. They really couldn't run the
Speaker 1: ball either. For a big chunk of this, I am
Speaker 1: weirdly invested as of people that listen to every show
Speaker 1: or plugged in on this. Maybe a little bit in
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson passing Walter Payton on the all time touchdowns lists.
Speaker 1: He gets a ton of carries, doesn't find the end zone.
Speaker 1: It does remind me of a game, uh if if you,
Speaker 1: if you'll let me go down memory lane. In is
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old Jets fan. The Jets went to
Speaker 1: Washington and won three to nothing, um to improve the
Speaker 1: eight and five that year. Then they lost out and
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. But um, it was the same situation,
Speaker 1: same exact situation, whereas miserable conditions that nobody could get
Speaker 1: anything going. And I guess in d C, you know
Speaker 1: they got the Nationals to look forward to this game.
Speaker 1: Probably they don't even think about but uh yeah, another
Speaker 1: sad day at FedEx. I'd say one quick thing that
Speaker 1: the Redskins this game would have taken on a different complexion.
Speaker 1: They opened with a twelve play, fifty four yard run
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson nine times drive that took up nearly nine
Speaker 1: minutes off the clock. That's how you win a game
Speaker 1: like this. And they basically were shut down right near
Speaker 1: the goal line and missed the field goal. And you
Speaker 1: knew at that point I wanted to say game over,
Speaker 1: Niners will not lose this, but it went on for
Speaker 1: another hour plus without the Niners scoring. I think the
Speaker 1: Niners are a team that can win a lot of
Speaker 1: games in a different type of way without their quarterback
Speaker 1: being the deciding factor. Because Jimmy g I like him
Speaker 1: a lot, but this is he was not the difference today. Well,
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa has weirdly maybe not gotten enough love as
Speaker 1: one of the great pass rushers we've seen and enter
Speaker 1: the league. Incredible in our lifetime. Number one on my
Speaker 1: list of defensive rookies list. I mean, I think at
Speaker 1: this point he's in the mix for defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year. I really when you look at the pressure
Speaker 1: rates and and especially what he's done since he came
Speaker 1: back from the injury. Granted that's only a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: but he dominated this game. Award four tackles for lost.
Speaker 1: He's starting to get sacks as well. He got a sack,
Speaker 1: four tackles for lost in this game. He's winning almost
Speaker 1: every snap. It is crazy to see what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And when I watched I went back and watched that
Speaker 1: the Rams game and on the coach they have a chance.
Speaker 1: I know it's super early, but they have it. If
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk m vps at this point in season,
Speaker 1: the defensive line has a chance to be one of
Speaker 1: the great defensive lines. If they're totally healthy, they have
Speaker 1: a chance to just go like win a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: by themselves. That that group, because Armstead is playing like
Speaker 1: a pro bowler, he's the fourth guy on there. Bosa
Speaker 1: Ford is playing well, Buckner. It's just a crazy group.
Speaker 1: And when you if Bosa can stay healthy, he's playing
Speaker 1: at a level as high as almost any pass restaurant.
Speaker 1: That's probably lowering a second. But there's so many other
Speaker 1: faces on that defense. And the reason they only got
Speaker 1: three sacks on case Keenum is because he only had
Speaker 1: twelve right attempts today. They kept him out of harm's
Speaker 1: way the best they could and they still wreak total
Speaker 1: havoc on them. One note on the Redskins. They have
Speaker 1: gone a full calendar year between home victories. That's not good.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. They were gonna remember that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get back at him in nine when they're when they're
Speaker 1: remember the puddles. Oh, two more things about this game
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on. There's a lot more. Gave
Speaker 1: the game ball to Mike Shanahan hired once upon a time,
Speaker 1: So that's a nice little thing. So Mike made the
Speaker 1: visit just for revenge. I gan esque and finally and
Speaker 1: just speaks to how rough things are for the Washington
Speaker 1: Redskins right now. This is homecoming day and the conditions
Speaker 1: I mean what I got washed out basically, or like
Speaker 1: go home day, I mean, just get out of there
Speaker 1: as quick as possible, And they helped him with the
Speaker 1: shortest game in a decade. Mark They say that weather
Speaker 1: is the great equal wiser in football, and your experience
Speaker 1: as a peewee football player, did you find that to
Speaker 1: be true? The teams that I were on were very
Speaker 1: mentally tough, and we had so you know it other
Speaker 1: there were other factors. Weather wasn't really something that would
Speaker 1: get in our way for the most part. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: He takes the quick snack, looking right all the way,
Speaker 1: lots of all the curley out of the backfield, over
Speaker 1: the shutter. He brings it in the touchdown to Gurley
Speaker 1: with one of the great catches of his career. Back
Speaker 1: in Georgia for the first touchdown of the game. He's
Speaker 1: the voice of Westchester. J. B. Long of the Rams
Speaker 1: Radio network. Jared Goff through for two touchdowns, ran for
Speaker 1: another score, and the Rams rolled over the Falcons thirty
Speaker 1: seven ten in the building where their offense melted down
Speaker 1: against the Pats in Super Bowl fifty three. The Rams
Speaker 1: they had a three game losing streak in the debut
Speaker 1: of Jalen Ramsey, who uh West, maybe you can let
Speaker 1: us in and what they did to get him on
Speaker 1: the field in terms of whether it was tour doll
Speaker 1: or a brace, you know whatever. Do get that back
Speaker 1: straightened out so they could play anyway? Um, first off,
Speaker 1: you do, oh mark a hug for moving out of
Speaker 1: the falcons lot lock. I don't know you should get
Speaker 1: half of a loss for that. I feel like absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And to the score and to the Rams needed this band, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's borderline miraculous. I don't know if they brought
Speaker 1: some miracle healer to the scene for Jayalen Rams to
Speaker 1: be able to play. But not only was he playing,
Speaker 1: he was tracking Julio Jones around the field and Jack
Speaker 1: and his jaw the whole first half. And then I
Speaker 1: thought one of the big turning points in the game,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones beats Ramsey for thirty nine yards. Thenn he
Speaker 1: beats Ramsey again down the sideline and the ball right
Speaker 1: in his hands. He has to stretch out and dive
Speaker 1: and it was so close to being a catch it
Speaker 1: would have put them right on the doorstep of the
Speaker 1: end zone. He couldn't quite reel it in and the
Speaker 1: Falcons never recovered from that, and then the rest of
Speaker 1: the game was just a series of points at which
Speaker 1: I didn't think the Falcons could get lower, and then
Speaker 1: they would. I just underestimated how low the Falcons could get. Well,
Speaker 1: doesn't get lower than Matt Ryan getting hurt. Well before that,
Speaker 1: Davonte Freeman got ejected for doing something stupid like trying
Speaker 1: to pick a fight with Aaron Donald. I don't know
Speaker 1: why anyone in the same week someone sucker punch Myles
Speaker 1: Garrett Donald. Donald kind of took his manhood by holding
Speaker 1: him up basically and walking at the same time. It's
Speaker 1: probably the biggest game Freeman's had all year. Ouch. You know,
Speaker 1: we're we're sponsored by the Marine Corps, and it don't
Speaker 1: impose your will on a man like that. That's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Been posting your will on the other you pick them
Speaker 1: up like a little boy, it's disrespectful. You know, the Marines,
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't. We don't go for that to ten.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that the final scored that the Rams scored,
Speaker 1: but the fact that the Falcons only scored You're only
Speaker 1: a two four yards in a game that Ryan did
Speaker 1: play most of it's pretty surprising. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: we've seen all year. He was hit on eleven of
Speaker 1: his first twenty two dropbacks and no running game because
Speaker 1: the running back doesn't make anyone miss, so that's a problem.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a problem, and then a couple
Speaker 1: of near catches. But it was certainly not one of
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's better game. They're in that mix now for
Speaker 1: the top because their schedules stuff. They're in that mix
Speaker 1: for the top pick. He was hobbling, and word after
Speaker 1: the game is that they don't think it's a serious injury.
Speaker 1: It looked like something he could probably go out there
Speaker 1: and play on in a Patrick Mahomes limited mobility kind
Speaker 1: of what And again a sky Sports earlier today, we
Speaker 1: were asked West by Neil Reynolds if dan Quinn could
Speaker 1: be out the door sooner rather than later at the
Speaker 1: bye week coming up week nine, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what does that matter? Sometimes it feels like that's overblown
Speaker 1: because it seems like we're nearing a certainty territory that
Speaker 1: he'll be let go and he won't be the coach
Speaker 1: in what does it really matter if he's let go
Speaker 1: when they're one and eight or whatever it will be
Speaker 1: at the bye week. The mere question is if they
Speaker 1: get rid of Thomas de Mitrof and they really blow
Speaker 1: up the whole thing. I don't necessarily think that's a
Speaker 1: good idea, but it's it's probably something they're considering. Well.
Speaker 1: It's it's usually a little bit easier than we think
Speaker 1: to read these things, and it has to do with credibility.
Speaker 1: If the coach has lost the locker room and nobody's
Speaker 1: buying in anymore. You know, Dion Jones after the game
Speaker 1: says we got his back, We're gonna keep fighting, and
Speaker 1: and you know, the owner, Arthur Blank said, I still
Speaker 1: support dan Quinn. So it doesn't feel like he's lost them.
Speaker 1: It just feels like they're lost. They haven't had a sack.
Speaker 1: They pop this up up on the screen during the game.
Speaker 1: They haven't had a sex since September twenty one. It's
Speaker 1: been over three snaps now since they've paid a sound
Speaker 1: long way from that playoff game that you guys were
Speaker 1: at Sam's Falcon. I mean, it reminds me a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, going back to The Bears, where if you're
Speaker 1: Matt Neege and you come out of a game like
Speaker 1: this where the offense laid a gigantic egg. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is why you were brought in. And dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: defense has not been a dan Quinn defense in a
Speaker 1: long time. That owner is not a knee jerk reaction
Speaker 1: type of guy, though he said he's redistributed some of
Speaker 1: the play calling duties on defense. Going back to last week.
Speaker 1: Look at this flex on Sunday Night Football. The graphic
Speaker 1: most consecutive years is number one ranks show in prime
Speaker 1: time Sunday A Football eight seasons, passing American Idol, The
Speaker 1: Cosby Show and All in the Family. What a flex. Wow.
Speaker 1: We I think that's like the first time in the
Speaker 1: middle of that we've both we've broken the fourth while
Speaker 1: we're talking about Sunday Night Football. But that's what did
Speaker 1: it for you. I Mean, the NFL occasionally sends these
Speaker 1: tweets out where it's a the top twenty five programs
Speaker 1: of the last you know, three months in all twenty
Speaker 1: five and FL games, and it's just the league being like, hey,
Speaker 1: you say our league is down, here's a bunch of
Speaker 1: middle fingers. That's when you if you want, that's how
Speaker 1: I read it, at least if you know you want
Speaker 1: to know why Al Michaels has four rolls Royce's in Malibu.
Speaker 1: What else is on right now? That's right unless you're
Speaker 1: like you know, DVR in sixty minutes and watching it
Speaker 1: for the third time in its total. It's any show
Speaker 1: and any you know. They just dominate the landscape. That's like, uh,
Speaker 1: seventy minutes mark, no competition. Let's move on this river
Speaker 1: that takes the stamp, gives it to Gordon get in. No,
Speaker 1: he did not. Mcclock is stopped with seven seconds to go.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of discussion. I don't know what this
Speaker 1: is about. I'm not sure why the Titans defense took
Speaker 1: off running and he's losing the ball. He appears to be.
Speaker 1: He's losing the ball. That's what it is. The ball
Speaker 1: is coming out and Woodyard, I think he is the
Speaker 1: man who recovered it. That's what this is. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. We wouldn't see it. The typees have recovered
Speaker 1: the football. That's why they came running out. If it's
Speaker 1: ruled a fumble, which it should be, the Titans have
Speaker 1: won this game. We've never had an ending like this here,
Speaker 1: Mike Key, beautiful call that Titans radio network. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Darrell Casey, is this the song check uses. It's gonna
Speaker 1: put us in the crosshairs. Might have to scrub this one.
Speaker 1: There's no way he listens, that's true. Darrell Casey recovered
Speaker 1: a fumble by Melvin Gordon at the goal line with
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds to play. The Titans somehow pulled out over
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the dirt neat dirt knat ball, as
Speaker 1: we I believe titled it, Welcome to the Underworld. The
Speaker 1: Chargers greg Even by the standards of the Los Angeles Chargers,
Speaker 1: this loss was absurd. No, this was something special, This
Speaker 1: was something different. Unfortunately I had I had to trade this.
Speaker 1: I had to trade for this game, had the pleasure
Speaker 1: of watching it. This may go down as one of
Speaker 1: the greatest trades, UH since Steve Young to the fort
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's not act like it was a trade.
Speaker 1: You basically imposed your You are very nice and you
Speaker 1: know what, if you're listening for the first time, you
Speaker 1: have no idea what. Yeah, we we trade the assignment.
Speaker 1: This game was insane how it ended, and we can
Speaker 1: talk more about the rest of the game, but the
Speaker 1: ending sequence where Melvin Gordon got a chance to lose
Speaker 1: the game for the Chargers drives me crazy because Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon got way too many chances to lose this game
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. Sixteen carries thirty two yards. Got the
Speaker 1: ball three different times on the goal line. The first
Speaker 1: time in the first half, he was he was stuffed
Speaker 1: and he kind of almost fumbled it. They didn't call
Speaker 1: it a fumble. There was some debate whether it was
Speaker 1: a fumble or not. They end up scoring on a
Speaker 1: throw to Gordon the next play. This time they get
Speaker 1: the ball back on the goal line. There's some back
Speaker 1: and forth, there's a false start, there's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of everything, like two overturned touchdowns where the Chargers thought
Speaker 1: they had won. But the reality is Gordon fumbled on
Speaker 1: the goal line, which you absolutely cannot do, and he
Speaker 1: recovered it, and then Anthony Lynn gave him the ball back,
Speaker 1: or whoever's calling them, Blake Ken wizzen Hunt gave him
Speaker 1: the ball back again, and he fumbled it again, which
Speaker 1: is just insane and drives me crazy because Austin Ekeler
Speaker 1: is the only reason they were in this game. They
Speaker 1: were down ten with six minutes to go, and I
Speaker 1: said to West the Chargers are like one of those
Speaker 1: dogs who start clearing the way, you know, for when
Speaker 1: they want to take a nap. They were, they were
Speaker 1: digging up the dirt. Ten points down, six minutes to go,
Speaker 1: but they came back about as fast as you possibly
Speaker 1: could because of Austin Ekeler as a receiver doing everything,
Speaker 1: and then you give the ball to Gordon to lose it.
Speaker 1: Not even good animal analogy, just thrown it. Not even
Speaker 1: your best analogy. At one point you seem to compare. Uh,
Speaker 1: you had a plumbing analogy in which Austin Ekeler was
Speaker 1: somehow drain oh and Gordon was a ball of tangles
Speaker 1: clogging the toilet. Is the toilet clogger, called him the
Speaker 1: antipe luncher. This backfield, to me shows how good NFL
Speaker 1: players are. And I'd love to see a coach after
Speaker 1: a holdout. Don't let that guy back on the field
Speaker 1: until he proves that he's better than the guy he's replacing.
Speaker 1: And Gordon has not proven that, missing training camp and
Speaker 1: missing September. He's a better player than Austin Ekeler. You
Speaker 1: need that practice. You're absolutely right, and there was a
Speaker 1: mandate right away. We're gonna get him on there, he's
Speaker 1: gonna see playing time. In the three games he's back there,
Speaker 1: owing three not all his fault, but he's not helped.
Speaker 1: He has a combined less than one hundred yards at
Speaker 1: less than two point five yards per carry over three games,
Speaker 1: all losses for the Chargers, who are now, as Dan mentioned,
Speaker 1: six to seven ft under the earth. You're you're enjoying
Speaker 1: the end of this game, Dan, because it was just
Speaker 1: it was a slow motion car crash that you couldn't
Speaker 1: believe what was happening. Yeah, it was. Before what proceeded
Speaker 1: the Gordon fubble was two touchdown scores with the OFFICI
Speaker 1: was rule touchdown and then they got called back. On
Speaker 1: our view, it is so clunky at the end of
Speaker 1: the game. It took about forty five minutes to play
Speaker 1: the last minute of the game. Um. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think for me and some of my more higher moments
Speaker 1: of self loathing around the Jets when things are going bad,
Speaker 1: I'll point out that nobody really knows how to lose
Speaker 1: and and shock you with their dysfunction and failure. Like
Speaker 1: the Jets are just really good at thinking up new ways.
Speaker 1: The Chargers fans and their fans, they get it as well,
Speaker 1: because there there's only one team that would figure out
Speaker 1: a way to blow that game, and it's the Chargers.
Speaker 1: At worst, they you would have thought they could have
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal there, although they're on the one
Speaker 1: in line with seconds left. It's it's such a unique
Speaker 1: Chargers thing to fail that way where they got in
Speaker 1: the end zone twice, got called back twice, and then
Speaker 1: you give it to the guy you definitely shouldn't give
Speaker 1: it to. You're basically daring the football gods to smite you,
Speaker 1: and they say, all right, if you if you want
Speaker 1: us to, we'll do it. And who's left holding the
Speaker 1: bad Chargers fans who've been suffering for years and years
Speaker 1: and years. One question, Greg, because this was the Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill experience beginning, and there was an interesting report that
Speaker 1: he and his agent or his report essentially the information
Speaker 1: came from the agent that they handpicked Titanians. Report that
Speaker 1: because the Titans felt like the team where a quarterback
Speaker 1: in place would either a get hurt or be lose
Speaker 1: the job due to performance, which is a weird thing
Speaker 1: for in the locker room. I would imagine to come out,
Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of preparation for weeks since sports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is weird. It's part I know, the kind of everything.
Speaker 1: But Ryan Tannehill played well today. He threw the ball
Speaker 1: really well. He Delanney Walker made a quote, had a quote.
Speaker 1: They said, what's the difference between you know, Tanneheill Marriot
Speaker 1: And he said, well, he throws it harder and he
Speaker 1: gets rid of the ball faster. I was like, those
Speaker 1: are those are two good things now in Tannehill fashion.
Speaker 1: This was a good Tannehill game where he threw it
Speaker 1: really well but still had an interception in two fumbles. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he took a couple of hits since in the
Speaker 1: second half and in the interception came on on a
Speaker 1: hit that was maybe not his fault. But this was
Speaker 1: actually a game where the offense has moved the ball
Speaker 1: quite well. There's only eight possessions each. It was just
Speaker 1: like a long slope. If you like long slope possessions
Speaker 1: that end in misery, this is your game. You had
Speaker 1: the day I could have had, Greg and I know
Speaker 1: Tytoons fans out there as some of you don't like
Speaker 1: me very much, but a lot of my frustration and
Speaker 1: doubt of that organization was always around Mariota, who looks
Speaker 1: like he's out of the picture. So he's gone. Now
Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of the uniforms. That's that's a
Speaker 1: grizzly look. The next billet point. It's not nearly as
Speaker 1: important as a quarterback. But I just I just think
Speaker 1: they need to reboot the and the whole logo thing,
Speaker 1: clear it all out and start again. I feel like
Speaker 1: they're not out of the quarterbacks. You hain't everything of
Speaker 1: the logo there three and four. I mean, this was
Speaker 1: a big I know you guys don't think so, but
Speaker 1: I think it was a big game, especially looking at
Speaker 1: ball teams upcoming. Well, the first round pick came and
Speaker 1: played Jeffrey Simmons. Okay, Jeffrey Simmons was one of the
Speaker 1: stories of the day. He's returning from a torn a
Speaker 1: c L that he suffered while preparing for the combine
Speaker 1: this insane and insane comeback, and he was maybe their
Speaker 1: best defensive player. He had a sack, he had two
Speaker 1: tackles for loss, he had a QB hit, and he's
Speaker 1: made Someone pointed out he's made a bigger impact in
Speaker 1: terms of tackles for loss and QB hits than Quentin
Speaker 1: Williams at Oliver and I forget who the other first
Speaker 1: round defensive tackles. In one game, he had a really
Speaker 1: great game for them. So that I kind of believe
Speaker 1: in Mike Rabel. I don't know, I'm not sure always
Speaker 1: why that is, but I kind of just maybe on
Speaker 1: defense and special teams, I don't believe in anything this
Speaker 1: team has. I like to look at all A J. Brown,
Speaker 1: these teams looked very even though well they could have lost,
Speaker 1: and we would, they would be seven feet under the ground.
Speaker 1: Between six and seven feet. That's the Chargers instead as
Speaker 1: a child mark of the seventies, okay, in the mustache,
Speaker 1: which was there's nothing more paternal than the mustache. In
Speaker 1: the eighties, it was the dad. Look, I think that's
Speaker 1: what you're connecting with. Yeah, but I wouldn't trust he's
Speaker 1: got broad shoulders. Uh, he's a guy. I'll protect you,
Speaker 1: I'll take you through the darkness, And I think that's
Speaker 1: what's sitting up. You're not totally wrong on some of that,
Speaker 1: But my dad never had a mustache, so I'm not
Speaker 1: interested in someone else's dad can worms. But I like
Speaker 1: I generally grew up the mustaches where Tad creepy cops
Speaker 1: had them ravels like the dad you've never had. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that's it. Either I'm not. We can keep trying,
Speaker 1: or we can move on. I don't know. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. First down at the Josh takes his snap,
Speaker 1: looks fire straight down the middle of Tecks down, Tecks down,
Speaker 1: bum John Down, ticks down down. An excellent crow bought
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. John Brown running up the seam. He goes
Speaker 1: in motion and he runs up the scene working on
Speaker 1: Ryan Lewis beats him to the inside against man coverage,
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen knew exactly what where he was going
Speaker 1: with the football to John Brown, John Murphy and Eric
Speaker 1: Would of the Bills Radio network. Smoke John Brown's nickname.
Speaker 1: I thought it was Smokey. Well, a lot of people
Speaker 1: call him smuck. That's cool, That's fine with me. Uh
Speaker 1: he you know, he's had a he's had a good
Speaker 1: role with that team, and he's having a nice season.
Speaker 1: True number one, and um, he wasn't the only star
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Tradeabus White force two second half turnovers.
Speaker 1: Uh Mika Hyde returned an onside kick for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: The Bills rally from a five point the devasit win
Speaker 1: over the Miami Dolphins, who are still looking for their
Speaker 1: first win, but incremental progress. I feel like west White
Speaker 1: saved the Bills from potential's humiliation on Sunday. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was the difference in the game. Um on a day. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a second week in a row where you look
Speaker 1: at the Dolphins offense and say, yeah, they're much better
Speaker 1: with Brian Fitzpatrick. As we've said, that could change in
Speaker 1: a week or two when he's throwing everything up for grabs,
Speaker 1: but he he calls out the protections better. You can
Speaker 1: see that that the offensive line plays better for him
Speaker 1: than they do for Josh Rosen uh Mark Walton looked
Speaker 1: really good running the ball. Preston Williams and DeVante Parker.
Speaker 1: You you can find worse wide receiver duos than those two.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins did not look inept and they finished their
Speaker 1: touchdown drives, whereas the Bills were settling for field goals.
Speaker 1: And then Matt Hawk, the Dolphins punter, took a faith
Speaker 1: field goal up the gut and was tackled just shy
Speaker 1: of the goal line. It looked like the Dolphins we're
Speaker 1: gonna get another score. They were already in the lead.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put this maybe out of reach, and then
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips strip sec, Dolphins fall on the ball, and
Speaker 1: then trad As White next play diving interception. Josh Allen
Speaker 1: gets the ball, goes six for six on the drive,
Speaker 1: touchdown to John Brown. Next series for the Dolphins, Tradavious
Speaker 1: White forces a fumble and then the game's basically over
Speaker 1: from there. Tradevious White saved them, And for all we've
Speaker 1: knocked Josh Allen, I think he's less predictably bad then
Speaker 1: guys like Trabinsky, where Mark you had that stat where
Speaker 1: it was like nine straight series or whatever he couldn't
Speaker 1: get ten yards. I think just when you think that
Speaker 1: you have a handle on Josh Allen being a bad player,
Speaker 1: he does things like that six for six drive, and
Speaker 1: he uses his legs and I'll throw a touch pass
Speaker 1: once in a while where you think, if this guy
Speaker 1: can put it together, he really is a dynamic athlete.
Speaker 1: It seemed like he was always the quarterback where when
Speaker 1: he's doing something in the positive column, it might be
Speaker 1: so incredibly athletically unbelievable that you have to have him
Speaker 1: on your team. And that's why certain scouts, he's only
Speaker 1: the guy who can be throwing less than fifty percent
Speaker 1: completions first half against the two thousand, nineteen Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: which when you start playing, he's also the guy who
Speaker 1: can be ten for eleven for a hundred eleven yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns that's happened to win the game. You've
Speaker 1: told me all year that none of these games against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins count basically or mean much, and so that's
Speaker 1: a team like you just wanted to get shots in
Speaker 1: at Josh Allen. Here, I'm just say with our podcast,
Speaker 1: there are three things in life that you can count on,
Speaker 1: death taxes and Gregg taking pot shots at Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: It's not potshots. I'm a saying if we're gonna be consistent,
Speaker 1: they've been consistent, like they need to be better on
Speaker 1: offense against the Miami Dolphins, that's all. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's say anything out of I mean absolutely is. I
Speaker 1: don't think you say anything wrong. I'm just amused by
Speaker 1: you're always the guy to jump in and say, but
Speaker 1: actually he's terrible. He hasn't played well at all this year. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're from last year, I think he's been one
Speaker 1: of the bottom six. I'm just saying, in a league
Speaker 1: where there's so many good quarterbacks, he's one of the
Speaker 1: bottom five or six, and that hurts. That hurts you.
Speaker 1: But you also never factor in his running ability, which
Speaker 1: for him is a big part of his game at
Speaker 1: five and one, not to also be a wet blanket here. Um,
Speaker 1: it's been a pretty soft five and one start. I
Speaker 1: still need to see some you know, Marky wins before
Speaker 1: you start saying this a team that has the defense
Speaker 1: and makes enough players on offense too, shocks and people
Speaker 1: in January. Maybe he still needs a little bit more
Speaker 1: from the bill. Well, don't you think that we always
Speaker 1: look at teams that jump out two starts like this
Speaker 1: in unorthodox defense or special teams first fashion with a
Speaker 1: sideways view, because it's got to come from offense or
Speaker 1: we don't believe in it. We have after the Eagles
Speaker 1: next week, they play a slate of teams that don't
Speaker 1: have more than two wins four more in a row, Redskins, Browns, Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and Broncos. Not. Well, there'll be eleven and five. Have
Speaker 1: no problem with them being eleven and five, or even
Speaker 1: maybe eleven and five. And then what happens from there
Speaker 1: when you I think they have the pieces to play
Speaker 1: better on offense. I think Alan can be corral, I
Speaker 1: think they can be bad. But if he's at bottom
Speaker 1: six quarterback, you have to, even in this offseason, think
Speaker 1: about what you're doing a quarterback. And outside of Tradavis White,
Speaker 1: their defense was not that impressive today. All right, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's finish out the rest of this uh Sunday Slates
Speaker 1: screen picked off by Unique and got White to the
Speaker 1: into the five touchdown Big six King Dockway extends the
Speaker 1: league for Jacksonville. Can you hear the hammer counting on
Speaker 1: the nails? That's the nail and the Frank Frangie And
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was Jeff Loghman, my boy
Speaker 1: Lockhaman or Tony Basselli, but somebody was launching attacks. Jaguars
Speaker 1: Radio Network, No Jalen Ramsey, no problem. Unique and Gockway
Speaker 1: returned in interception twenty three yards to the house, clinching
Speaker 1: a seventeen win for the Jags over the Bengals. Still
Speaker 1: looking for that first dub west side of Cincinnati, Quiet
Speaker 1: agains they never stay there. Chilly Tonight Mark feels like
Speaker 1: a seventies rock song. Mark. It was part of a
Speaker 1: huge defensive showing for the Jacks who stuck Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: on a stick and made him the ginger haired scarecrow forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to follow that up. Put that
Speaker 1: in your power. I appreciate that because you've come up
Speaker 1: with something, a new way to describe the Ay Dalton experience.
Speaker 1: And I anyone who watched the end of this game,
Speaker 1: you are dealing with a quarterback that threw three interceptions
Speaker 1: over the course of five attempts in three possessions that
Speaker 1: utterly buried Cincinnati's chance to take a game where they
Speaker 1: were very much in a manageable situation to win against
Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense that put together drives of nine, eleven,
Speaker 1: nine and twelve plays move the ball, but could not
Speaker 1: score field goal after field goal. They finally did punch
Speaker 1: it in and that separated them from Cincinnati. But the
Speaker 1: Bengals had a chance. And I get it. Look at
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, is, you know, working with an offense where
Speaker 1: Alex Erickson had to catch eight passes today to be
Speaker 1: the leading receiver and they cannot get anything going on
Speaker 1: the round their running game, and it has to do
Speaker 1: with their offensive line hit me. This is one of
Speaker 1: the most amazing statue here. In a first half of
Speaker 1: the season to this point, the Bengals have rush for
Speaker 1: three hundred seventy two yards. Their opponents have rushed for
Speaker 1: one thousand, three hundred twenty three yards. They are outgamed
Speaker 1: by nearly a thousand yards. Seven weeks this season, there
Speaker 1: on pace for the worst rushing team in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl era before this game. And then well and they
Speaker 1: and they gave up to sixteen today And so that's
Speaker 1: that's been the thing week after week is their line
Speaker 1: on both sides are totally dominated. So you can't just
Speaker 1: look at Andy Dalton and their running backs ran for
Speaker 1: it called runs with zero yards. That's hard to do
Speaker 1: and runs for zero yards Joe mixing ten rushes for
Speaker 1: two for two yards. We figured out Andy Dalton years ago.
Speaker 1: He rises and falls based on what he has around him,
Speaker 1: and now he has. He's never had anything worse around
Speaker 1: him than he has now now he's worse than he
Speaker 1: ever was. He needs a fresh start in Chicago. He
Speaker 1: needs the ghost where well I don't that would have
Speaker 1: a chance to um get his career back on track.
Speaker 1: Because both sides need a refresh here. I just turned
Speaker 1: around pick for Andy Dalton at the trading deadline, who says, no,
Speaker 1: just do it bad that that that that would be
Speaker 1: interesting would be done a second. The problem ones with
Speaker 1: with with Zach Taylor and the Bengals is I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know they're trying to run a certain type of
Speaker 1: offense that he's familiar with. You can't have Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: throwing the ball forty three times in this with what
Speaker 1: he has around them. I get that, but the whole
Speaker 1: thing is so broken down, and it's just the Jaguars
Speaker 1: were no treat either, but they saved their season because
Speaker 1: they lost this, your boy, Minshew, they moved the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean it again. They just couldn't. They can't. They
Speaker 1: struggle and they've done this all year long, closing drives
Speaker 1: because they get into the red zone and it falls apart.
Speaker 1: But he still throws the ball aggressively. Gardner Minshew also
Speaker 1: is you know he's not Josh Allen, but he had
Speaker 1: a couple of keys scrambles today. They kept the drive
Speaker 1: drives live every game. He's gonna give you that. And
Speaker 1: he did not throw an interception. And for me, it's
Speaker 1: like this is a guy that you can ride with
Speaker 1: six more yards than the Bengals running backs combined. O God,
Speaker 1: all right, let's close out the pre Sunday night football slate.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have a first intent of the Giant hand
Speaker 1: off Edands here. Look is he gonna do it again? Yes?
Speaker 1: He is put down. Chase Edmonds has three touchdown runs
Speaker 1: and now two. This game was supposed to be about
Speaker 1: the return of se Kwon Barkley. Instead, their star running
Speaker 1: back was Cardinals backup Chase Edmonds, who rushed for a
Speaker 1: career high and twenty six yards a career high three
Speaker 1: touchdowns Over the gaming at the Meadowlands, Greg Cardinal sack
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones eight times too. Maybe they're not terrible, or
Speaker 1: maybe the Giants are. I mean they're not terrible. The
Speaker 1: little Cardinals are wondering, well, what do we gotta do
Speaker 1: Dan to move up in the rundown. We've won three straight,
Speaker 1: we haven't lost in all of October. We've got Chase Edmonds,
Speaker 1: a five nine running back out of Fordham University, outshining
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley. I mean, Chase Edmonds has been week.
Speaker 1: The three teams they've beaten could not be worse. I
Speaker 1: think they've won to combine three games, so I get it,
Speaker 1: but they only won three games all of last season.
Speaker 1: And the running game that Cliff Kingsbury has brought to
Speaker 1: Arizona travels because you didn't have David Johnson today. They
Speaker 1: started him, he had one carry and then he didn't
Speaker 1: play again, and Edmonds carried them along with the defense
Speaker 1: led by Chandler Jones, who had four sacks all by himself.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones sacked eight times. Daniel Jones fumbled three times,
Speaker 1: had an interception. He has now thrown seven picks and
Speaker 1: has five fumbles in his five starts. And it's disappointing
Speaker 1: because this was the game you're kind of waiting for
Speaker 1: where you had Ingram and Barkley and Tate all on
Speaker 1: the field together. Ingram had a disastrous game, Barkley was fine,
Speaker 1: and the Giants offense was really kind of the lagging
Speaker 1: group of this game in a rainstorm. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: Giant's offensive line has not been a total hot mess
Speaker 1: this season. The last couple of weeks, the communication in
Speaker 1: recognizing where the pressure is coming from, and that happened
Speaker 1: so many times. You could see that Arizona was like
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep sending stunts, and we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: sending blitzes and doing all sorts of different things. And
Speaker 1: by the end it was just a feeding frenzy. And
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones especially, you know, like punched his pro bolticket
Speaker 1: and when you get those four sack games and looks
Speaker 1: soldier he was on both sides, I believe. I believe
Speaker 1: Remors and Nate's Solder both had their share of struggles.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Kyler Murray had a hundred and four
Speaker 1: yards this game. I thought this would be like a
Speaker 1: high scoring game where both quarterbacks did a lot. Uh
Speaker 1: not so much. Uh you know what, I three three
Speaker 1: and one though they're they're five d's times. You know
Speaker 1: what I heard, Greg, Yeah, I heard the biggest star
Speaker 1: of this game was actually upstairs in the booth, Greg
Speaker 1: Olsen on the by an absolute master class. Uh, one
Speaker 1: of those remember early Romo when people were like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, we might have something special here. We got
Speaker 1: a situation here. I mean, I'm sure Booker is not
Speaker 1: sleeping tonight because Greg Olsen is right near the end
Speaker 1: of it's been an excellent career and people are talking,
Speaker 1: the streets are talking about Greg Olson and the booth.
Speaker 1: He was awesome to the point where I was just like,
Speaker 1: who is this new announcer? I like this guy like that.
Speaker 1: He's making a lot of smart points, like I've never
Speaker 1: heard this voice, and I checked and it's Greg Olsen,
Speaker 1: And yeah, he was a joy to listen to throughout
Speaker 1: analyze the game very calmly. It's for you know, for
Speaker 1: a tight end. He can really see, like the game
Speaker 1: from the quarterback position, just like aking things down and
Speaker 1: teaching you. How about this for a quote, Greg, I
Speaker 1: know you love this stuff, so I'm directing it you.
Speaker 1: Kenny Albert was his partner. I like Kenny. It was
Speaker 1: a good deal. Here's what Kenny had to say, according
Speaker 1: to The Athletic, I don't think I've ever gotten that
Speaker 1: many texts or tweets during the game about an analyst
Speaker 1: that I was working with and it was positive. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, what was the one center are well? You
Speaker 1: never completes everybody? We heard him in the playoffs might
Speaker 1: have been the analyst he was with last week. We
Speaker 1: heard him in the playoffs last year, and I thought
Speaker 1: in his first like ever game announcing he's already second
Speaker 1: best behind Romo like wrapping in for during the bye week.
Speaker 1: That's kind of wild too. I mean, that's that's breaking boundaries.
Speaker 1: You're like in a job and then you already know
Speaker 1: that the minute that you decide to leave the job
Speaker 1: that's paying you millions and millions of dollars, that you'll
Speaker 1: just roll in as a class favorite. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: put out the sandwich right now that he's in the
Speaker 1: booth at Monday night football the season after retires, whether
Speaker 1: it's twenty I'm with you. He uh, you're not taking
Speaker 1: me up on it. I read with me up on
Speaker 1: it right now. I mean there are human beings involved
Speaker 1: in that process. What a guy you are? What a
Speaker 1: class act you mean? I'm just waiting until we're not
Speaker 1: gonna watch it again. It was very disarming to to
Speaker 1: have a guy in the booth comfortable and then at
Speaker 1: the end of the game feels like an aggressive wager.
Speaker 1: For it does feel a little aggressive, kind I know
Speaker 1: what's really going on here. We'll talk off air or not.
Speaker 1: We will never talk again. Dan, you need to sip
Speaker 1: in your teeth at the end of our relationship. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Tavon Austin in Motion coming to the
Speaker 1: left and then we'll pitch it right to Austin. He's
Speaker 1: got a first stout fifting touch up with Sam put
Speaker 1: into the five clutch out on Austin stuck the cresses,
Speaker 1: the cowboyism scored a first quarter touchdown. The sham God,
Speaker 1: Rad Sham the sham God with the call Cowboys Radio
Speaker 1: kay r LD. What Tavon Austin is starting action with
Speaker 1: a touchdown, You know your offense is gonna have a
Speaker 1: good day. And that's what happened for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: In fact, everyone on the Cowboys had a good day
Speaker 1: and a thirty seven to ten win over the Eagles,
Speaker 1: a win that snaps the Cowboys losing streak at three
Speaker 1: and sends the Eagles deep deeper into their existential funk.
Speaker 1: And if you're Jason Garrett, Greg who after a week,
Speaker 1: you know this happens almost every year for going on
Speaker 1: a decade. There will be weeks during the season where
Speaker 1: people will be pointing at Jason Garrett and saying that
Speaker 1: man's the problem. Get him out of the building. They
Speaker 1: need a better head coach, and perhaps they do. Greg,
Speaker 1: I think you're one of those people that believe that,
Speaker 1: and that's okay, but this was as Chris Collinsworth put
Speaker 1: it well at the end of the game, the pressure
Speaker 1: relief valve has been hit absolutely, especially going into the
Speaker 1: bye week. To to get Randall Cobb and Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: and the best tackle tandem in the league in uh
Speaker 1: lay All Collins and Tyrone Smith back, you're gonna look better.
Speaker 1: I think their offense hasn't been the problem the whole
Speaker 1: time we talked going into the show, it's been the defense.
Speaker 1: Can Layton Vanderish and Jalen Smith and to Marcus Slays,
Speaker 1: can they start making some plays. That's exactly what they
Speaker 1: did in the first half of this game. They gave
Speaker 1: their team a few extra possessions by winning the turnover
Speaker 1: battle three to nothing. The Cowboys did have a couple
Speaker 1: of injuries with Robert Quinn and vander esh in terms
Speaker 1: of the second half, but by then the game was over.
Speaker 1: It is pretty impressive to see the Cowboys win that convincingly,
Speaker 1: and yet somehow it's not totally shocking the way that
Speaker 1: the Eagles have been playing, especially the last two weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys didn't implode in the red zone this time.
Speaker 1: They've been moving the ball up and down the field
Speaker 1: pretty consistently. They just haven't been scoring consistently, and today
Speaker 1: everything just clicked. Yeah. I look at the Eagles and
Speaker 1: I thought before the season started, I pointed to them
Speaker 1: as the team in the NFC that I just believed
Speaker 1: in the most, from top to bottom, front office, coaching staff, roster.
Speaker 1: I knew they're you know, they're not perfect, but you
Speaker 1: thought this is the team that I thought would be
Speaker 1: there at the end. They watching them tonight. Last week
Speaker 1: it was the secondary. Tonight it was the defense again.
Speaker 1: I watched their offense too, would just say identity free.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this offense is about. They Greg,
Speaker 1: I think you kind of mentioned there was sort of
Speaker 1: the sort of bad energy around the whole Eagles operation tonight,
Speaker 1: And it's just I I go into Week eight wondering
Speaker 1: what the Eagles team is right now. I think about
Speaker 1: the late Tony Sperrano and his famous bury the ball.
Speaker 1: You bury the ball, you buried the past. It is
Speaker 1: very close to not very close. This is a bury
Speaker 1: the ball game for the Eagles. But you know what
Speaker 1: the problem with the bury the ball game is, it
Speaker 1: can't happen on the same week that your head coach
Speaker 1: tells the media and I know, you try to walk
Speaker 1: this back. We're gonna go to Dallas, We're gonna win,
Speaker 1: and then you don't show up. It doesn't mean the
Speaker 1: Eagles are done. But to Mark's point, they have been
Speaker 1: one of the biggest disappointments in the entire league. I
Speaker 1: believe through through seven weeks and they still have time
Speaker 1: west to get back on track, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they don't. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's been bad, and it's been rough, and they were
Speaker 1: not competitive tonight. That is not a good sign, not
Speaker 1: a good look. Well, we give the Eagles a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. I think we have confidence in their general
Speaker 1: manager the coaching staff that it's a strong roster, and
Speaker 1: then you can't If you believe that, then then one
Speaker 1: thirty two year old wide receiver who's a deep threat
Speaker 1: shouldn't throw off everything just because he's out of the lineup.
Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson being gone has hurt them and they've been
Speaker 1: prone to some stinkers. Look, they got blown out by
Speaker 1: the Saints last year much later in the season, the
Speaker 1: middle of November, and they bounce back from that. They
Speaker 1: lost my forty points but it's strange to see them
Speaker 1: in two straight weeks on the road against other playoff
Speaker 1: type contenders, and I think we're clearly the inferior team
Speaker 1: in both games. I don't think they were that close
Speaker 1: to the Vikings. I think the final score was appropriate.
Speaker 1: And when you look at these two teams, they're they're
Speaker 1: both very tough to get a handle on. But what's
Speaker 1: been consistent. I think the Cowboys offense has been consistent,
Speaker 1: especially when they're healthy. And what's also been consistent is
Speaker 1: the Eagles defense being lame. I mean, they've been a
Speaker 1: pretty bad defense throughout, and their offense works really hard
Speaker 1: for everything. I mean Whence for the most part of
Speaker 1: this season, we like what he's done, but they're just
Speaker 1: they had a running game outside of the Green Bay No.
Speaker 1: I mean, they get some plays in the receiving game
Speaker 1: from the from Sanders, but they seem to be working
Speaker 1: so hard, whereas in the past, I feel like Peterson
Speaker 1: and went like things just came much easier. Onence missed
Speaker 1: a couple of big time throws tonight where he had
Speaker 1: open receivers. So it's not all It's not just one thing.
Speaker 1: This was your game where the field is a undred
Speaker 1: and ten yards going uphill both ways, vibe for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys and what a great what a
Speaker 1: great night. I mean Jason went the montage of Jason
Speaker 1: Witten doing fist have that for the video show we do.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a beautiful thing. NBC put together
Speaker 1: a montage of Jason Witten doing like, like dad fist
Speaker 1: pumps from here he just won the second set tie
Speaker 1: break in the men's over forty five championship at the
Speaker 1: Old Tennis Club. He saw he basically is just farting
Speaker 1: on Monday night football right there. He's saying he's gonna
Speaker 1: do what I want to kid rock concert and they
Speaker 1: just went into like He's like, oh yeah, this is
Speaker 1: my college jam. Some great pump analysis. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: You know who wasn't doing all those things we just
Speaker 1: mentioned it. Go ahead, Mark or West who locked up
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Baby, nice job and Mark, you you really
Speaker 1: saved your buddy here. Oh yeah he did. Uh got
Speaker 1: out of the Falcons lock, which was you know, god
Speaker 1: forsaken and now you're on the board. You end. And
Speaker 1: I said it on Thursday show into Nationally, this story
Speaker 1: is picking up steam. You're gonna be all over the papers. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you would pay Pipkins, it was gonna be it
Speaker 1: was gonna be grim. So good job with that. In fact,
Speaker 1: West was being boycotted in China, so it's you know,
Speaker 1: you're back. You're big in China, You're back on the
Speaker 1: You're back in China. Actually I have a comment to
Speaker 1: make about what's going on in Hong Kong right now,
Speaker 1: but I will save it for the end of the show. Um.
Speaker 1: Greg also locked up the Packers. We went four. Oh
Speaker 1: now our time, we really that, so we we don't
Speaker 1: mention locks at all. For all those weeks we were terrible.
Speaker 1: But now that we went for it, oh, we're like,
Speaker 1: we're almost like two weeks away of from doing that again,
Speaker 1: of getting to five. Let's honk about it. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: it's been a rough ride, always forward, never back. Can't
Speaker 1: see is Erica's face right now. She wants us all
Speaker 1: taken out by wild animals before the next minute, or
Speaker 1: all right, that's it. Good job by the Cowboys, bad
Speaker 1: bad job by the Eagles. And yet you do feel
Speaker 1: like the next time they play the game will mean something.
Speaker 1: Just the way this division works. Typically, Cowboys got Eagle's
Speaker 1: gotta figure it out. Though NFC is pretty deep, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little trickier to slide into one of
Speaker 1: those wild card spots. Week sixteen, they'll they'll meet again,
Speaker 1: but in Philadelphia. We'll see if that game has huge
Speaker 1: ramifications for both teams. All right, we'll be back on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: UM where we will recap the Monday night football classic
Speaker 1: between the Jets and the Patriots and uh and then
Speaker 1: do a bunch of other fun stuff. Might be a classic.
Speaker 1: I hope it is. I feel like it would be
Speaker 1: good for the Jets it was a classic because could
Speaker 1: it be a classic of the Patriots win. Probably not,
Speaker 1: But if it's being called, if it's being hailed as
Speaker 1: a classic, I mean, if it was a great game
Speaker 1: that the Patriots won at the very end, it could be. No.
Speaker 1: Not if they want to hunt, I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: want if they want a hundred nothing and it like
Speaker 1: changed football history and still on a classic. Sam's aren't
Speaker 1: would be a land Ros for six touchdowns, but Tom
Speaker 1: Brady throws for seven, including a forty eight yard or
Speaker 1: at the buzzer. That's gonna be a classic no matter
Speaker 1: who take that, So give me that Ricky tried to
Speaker 1: end this show sixty seven seconds ago. Let's go, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine, you guys, I'm loving it all right.
Speaker 1: Run the music. Just have a spooked Dan ANSAs signing
Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm to mail Man, the Old Boss, Ricky, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Ryan Barlett and friends behind the Glass. Thank you everybody
Speaker 1: till Tuesday.