Speaker 1: I'm drained.
Speaker 2: As a signal from your body to the mind, from
Speaker 2: your mind to your heart, your body and mind are
Speaker 2: trying to tell you something. Pain makes you pay attention,
Speaker 2: but that attention needs to be followed by action.
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Speaker 2: you incredible conversations and content. Now this episode feels like
Speaker 2: a really, really important one because I can't believe that
Speaker 2: we're already this far into the year and it's natural
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are starting to feel drained.
Speaker 1: Maybe you have some time off.
Speaker 2: Maybe you haven't had the chance to have some time off,
Speaker 2: but maybe you've been working really hard this year. Maybe
Speaker 2: you've been pursuing your goals health and wellness related and
Speaker 2: also professional. How many of you, honestly are feeling drained,
Speaker 2: how many of you are feeling exhausted, and how many
Speaker 2: of you are feeling like you need some practical tips
Speaker 2: and practical methods to actually find a way through this
Speaker 2: busy time. Nearly half forty eight percent of eighteen to
Speaker 2: twenty nine year olds said they feel drained, compared with
Speaker 2: forty percent of their peers, AIDS thirteen up, while women
Speaker 2: for six percent reported higher levels of burnout than men
Speaker 2: at thirty seven percent. So this is a problem that
Speaker 2: a lot of us are dealing with. We're not alone,
Speaker 2: and we're highly challenged by it. And look, the podcast
Speaker 2: is full of great advice from experts on how much
Speaker 2: water intake, you need, sleep, and exercise. You can find
Speaker 2: that here. But what I wanted to share with you
Speaker 2: in this episode is what do you do when you
Speaker 2: can't do all of those things right now? When you
Speaker 2: feel like you've tried but you're failing, and now you're
Speaker 2: starting to do nothing What are these small incremental shifts.
Speaker 2: What are the little steps that you can take right
Speaker 2: now to transform how you feel to stop feeling drained. So,
Speaker 2: if you've been feeling drained lately, this episode is for you.
Speaker 2: If you've been feeling exhausted, this episode is for you.
Speaker 2: And if you're on the verge of burnout, please please
Speaker 2: please listen to this. And if you have someone in
Speaker 2: your life that you know is headed down that road,
Speaker 2: send them there so they can actually keep it together,
Speaker 2: keep the energy enough to get to their next break
Speaker 2: and their next pit stop. I want to start off
Speaker 2: with a really important principle. I've said this statistic before.
Speaker 2: Study show we have sixty to eighty thousand thoughts per day,
Speaker 2: and eighty percent of those are negative and eighty percent
Speaker 2: of those are repetitive. Let me give you an example.
Speaker 2: How many of you have ever started your day with
Speaker 2: the words I'm feeling really drained. Now, think about how
Speaker 2: many times you've said that in one day, in every conversation,
Speaker 2: every meeting, talking to a friend or a family member. Now,
Speaker 2: think about how many times you've said that over a week. Now,
Speaker 2: how many times have you said that over a month,
Speaker 2: And how many times have you said that. Over a year,
Speaker 2: we keep repeating the same thought, the same feeling, oh
Speaker 2: and over and over again. And it's so important that
Speaker 2: we learn to break repetitive thoughts, that we learn to
Speaker 2: disrupt that pattern, that we learn to intervene. We have
Speaker 2: to have our own intervention in our mind. I'm going
Speaker 2: to give you the triple A formula. Write this down,
Speaker 2: Triple A accept and action. Usually we don't accept how
Speaker 2: we feel. We're told to be toxically positive. Instead of
Speaker 2: saying I'm tired, we say I'm energized, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: Affirmations like that don't work. That isn't even an affirmation.
Speaker 2: That's just telling yourself a lie and hoping you'll believe it. Now,
Speaker 2: biology will reject that. You won't believe it. You won't
Speaker 2: just believe it because you keep saying it to yourself
Speaker 2: if you're not feeling any different. So accept and action.
Speaker 2: The acceptance has to be followed up by an action.
Speaker 2: So for example, I'm really drained and so I'll go
Speaker 2: to sleep early tonight. I'm really drained, and so I
Speaker 2: will cancel my plans this weekend. The and so changes
Speaker 2: that thought. See, that thought is a signal I'm drained.
Speaker 2: As a signal from your body to the mind, from
Speaker 2: your mind to your heart, your body and mind are
Speaker 2: trying to tell you something. Pain makes you pay attention,
Speaker 2: but that attention needs to be followed by action, and
Speaker 2: that's often what we don't find we see the signal.
Speaker 2: It's almost like you're driving your car. You see one
Speaker 2: of the lights pop up, and you keep ignoring or
Speaker 2: avoiding it. You go, I don't really know what it is.
Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. I'll take a look right. How
Speaker 2: many times have you done that? Mentally?
Speaker 1: How many times have you ever done that? Physically?
Speaker 2: You're feeling a real niggling pain in your knee or
Speaker 2: in your back, you keep ignoring it. Stop ignoring your
Speaker 2: repetitive thoughts, stop ignoring your petitive feelings, stop ignoring your
Speaker 2: repetitive emotions. They're repeating for a reason. They want you
Speaker 2: to pay attention. Pain makes you focus and pay attention
Speaker 2: so that then you can take action, break your repetitive
Speaker 2: thought cycle, break that spiral so that you can actually
Speaker 2: shift into taking action. Principle number two. One of the
Speaker 2: things I find that has really helped me, and I
Speaker 2: practice this often, is recognizing that I don't always have
Speaker 2: to be at one hundred percent energy. How many times
Speaker 2: have you ever gone to an event, you've gone to work,
Speaker 2: you're with your family, and you constantly think that you
Speaker 2: have to be at one hundred percent all the time.
Speaker 2: I'll give an example. I was at a dinner recently
Speaker 2: and I had to give a speech the next day.
Speaker 2: I just got off a flight. So I just got
Speaker 2: off a flight. I'd been trying for around twenty hours.
Speaker 2: I had gone to the opening night dinner, and the
Speaker 2: next morning I had to wake up and give a
Speaker 2: keynote presentation. I wouldn't say I was drained, but I
Speaker 2: was exhausted. The interesting thing to me was that dinner,
Speaker 2: everyone was chatting, it was opening ni, everyone was, you know,
Speaker 2: being their best self. And I very quickly realized that
Speaker 2: if I wanted to give a great presentation the next day,
Speaker 2: which is why I'd been brought in, that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to be one hundred percent energy the whole night.
Speaker 2: So I was probably at about fifty percent energy. And
Speaker 2: I could tell that people could sense that even if
Speaker 2: they didn't know me, and I shared with them. I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm really tired. I got off a plane. Today after
Speaker 2: twenty hours of travel, I have a presentation tomorrow. I
Speaker 2: really wanted to sharpen meet everyone, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: be a bit more reserved tonight.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Being able to vocalize that, being able to communicate that
Speaker 2: helped me feel better about it. I want to be
Speaker 2: at one hundred percent. I want to be able to
Speaker 2: give my best, but after my travel schedule, the demands
Speaker 2: don't allow me to be that way. And I'm guessing
Speaker 2: it's the same for you as well. And I realize
Speaker 2: that being able to say to myself and communicate to
Speaker 2: others why I'm out a seventy five percent, why I'm
Speaker 2: out of fifty percent, people are going to be able
Speaker 2: to sense it. Often we want to act our way
Speaker 2: through these things. We want to hope that no one realizes,
Speaker 2: people recognize, people feel it. But actually, when we can
Speaker 2: communicate our limits, when we can communicate our challenges, when
Speaker 2: we can communicate why we're feeling the way we are,
Speaker 2: why we're acting the way we are, what is happening
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. Right, No one there had a badge
Speaker 2: that said the travel time it took them to get in.
Speaker 2: Some people had come from thirty minutes away, and like me,
Speaker 2: some from twenty hours away. And so the idea that
Speaker 2: we should just assume that everyone should be one hundred
Speaker 2: percent all the time doesn't actually make sense. And I'm
Speaker 2: hoping that this actually gives you the capacity to be
Speaker 2: compassionate to others. I think often we're so quick to
Speaker 2: judge as with others, well like, oh they didn't show
Speaker 2: up with their best energy. Oh they seemed off tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm going to recognize what people are carrying, what people
Speaker 2: are dealing with. So I want you to take that
Speaker 2: on board. When can you be at fifty percent energy?
Speaker 2: And what does that look like in communicating that? Now,
Speaker 2: there are times when I have to be at one
Speaker 2: hundred percent energy and I know I've got a sharp
Speaker 2: off as in my best self, I don't have the
Speaker 2: excuse to say, Okay, our sharp is fifty percent. I
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable to communicate that. I find that might
Speaker 2: be difficult. So one of the things I've realized in
Speaker 2: this is to cap the time in order to preserve
Speaker 2: my energy at one hundred percent. The time I can
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent is different. I may show up
Speaker 2: to a dinner for thirty minutes. I may make the
Speaker 2: meeting ten minutes. I may make the presentation fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: What can I do to do what I want to do?
Speaker 2: To do what I need to do? But how do
Speaker 2: I time box it in a way that I can
Speaker 2: give my best self? Often what we try and do
Speaker 2: is say, Okay, if the meeting's an hour, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be there in shop for an hour. Actually can
Speaker 2: I solve that in thirty minutes with my best energy?
Speaker 2: Is that actually more plausible than possible? Step number three,
Speaker 2: This one is important if you are on the verge
Speaker 2: of exhaustion. We have to learn to say no, it's
Speaker 2: okay to cancel social events. And ideally what a lot
Speaker 2: of us do is we try and cancel it last minute.
Speaker 2: It's actually so much better if you cancel it in advance,
Speaker 2: if you give someone notice, if you let someone know, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling really rough this week, I'm kind of under
Speaker 2: the weather. I'm worried that I'm going to get sick,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to come ruin the party. I
Speaker 2: don't want to come ruin the event. What we often
Speaker 2: do is we wait till the last minute, We're going
Speaker 2: to force ourselves to go, and then we realize we
Speaker 2: really can't go, or we force ourselves to go and
Speaker 2: then we're bitter it or we're upset about it. It's
Speaker 2: so important to just get that RSVP out the way,
Speaker 2: let the person know, let the event know it's okay.
Speaker 2: Things will go on. Yes you'll experience fomo, Yes you
Speaker 2: might miss out on something cool, but guess what. Burnout
Speaker 2: is not worth it. Exhaustion is not worth it, Feeling
Speaker 2: drained is not worth it. Let me say that again.
Speaker 2: Feeling drained is not worth anything, Feeling exhausted is not
Speaker 2: worth anything, and experiencing burnout is not worth it. Now again,
Speaker 2: there have been times when I have to turn up,
Speaker 2: I have to be there, and what I've found is
Speaker 2: that usually in social settings it's overwhelming thinking you've got
Speaker 2: to talk to twenty thirty, forty fifty people. I did
Speaker 2: this again the other night, and I love it when
Speaker 2: you find someone who's trying to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I ended up talking to someone who is also
Speaker 2: feeling the same way as me. They were tired, they
Speaker 2: were feeling slightly drained, and they said, I just want
Speaker 2: to find one person to connect to meaningfully. So instead
Speaker 2: of trying to feel like you've got to work the room.
Speaker 2: You've got to introduce yourself to everyone. You're going to
Speaker 2: miss out. Literally find the other person, have a beautiful
Speaker 2: meaning interaction or exchange, and just feel connected and experience
Speaker 2: what it feels like to actually just allow yourself to
Speaker 2: be I think that a lot of this draining feeling
Speaker 2: actually comes from stress, and the stress is where we're
Speaker 2: demanding too much of our body and mind. That's how
Speaker 2: I look at stress. Stress is when I'm demanding too
Speaker 2: much of my body and mind. My body and mind
Speaker 2: is trying to tell me it's limit, and I'm pushing
Speaker 2: it further. Sometimes that can be brilliant. Kelly McGonagall, in
Speaker 2: her book called The Upside of Stress, talks about how
Speaker 2: we can deal with more stress when we experience purpose.
Speaker 2: We can deal with more stress when we have a
Speaker 2: clear intention. There's one thing to think about when you
Speaker 2: are experiencing stress, ask yourself, if you need to push through,
Speaker 2: what's my intention? What am I really trying to achieve?
Speaker 2: Let me focus on why it's so important for me
Speaker 2: to experience this, and actually we become better at dealing
Speaker 2: with it. We deal with it more gracefully. It doesn't
Speaker 2: have that negative impact that stress often does on our lives,
Speaker 2: So find a way to think about that. Take a
Speaker 2: moment to say, what is my intention here? Why is
Speaker 2: it necessary for me to tackle this stress and take
Speaker 2: it on right now? Going back to the social event point,
Speaker 2: I have a friend who's amazing at this. She'll always
Speaker 2: message me and she'll say to me, Jay, are you
Speaker 2: going to this? And I'll say yes, and she'll be like,
Speaker 2: can I just let you know that I'm really tired
Speaker 2: today and I'd love for it if we could just
Speaker 2: hang out and talk.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I can do big groups. I go,
Speaker 1: I'm all.
Speaker 2: In write that kind of strategy and approach. When you
Speaker 2: know someone coming, it's a safe space. They trust you,
Speaker 2: you trust them, You can give them a heads up
Speaker 2: they can do the same, and now you're supporting each
Speaker 2: other in that environment. Sometimes I actually think that stress
Speaker 2: or feeling drained makes us more strategic. Yep, I said
Speaker 2: that right, Stress can actually make you more strategic. Feeling
Speaker 2: drained can make you more dynamic. Here's a really interesting
Speaker 2: thing to think about. Which one of your meetings could
Speaker 2: actually be emails?
Speaker 1: Think about that right now.
Speaker 2: Look through your schedule and ask yourself which of those
Speaker 2: can be solved with an email. Which of those could
Speaker 2: actually be solved in an email exchange? We don't need
Speaker 2: to do a call. The call will actually tell into
Speaker 2: an hour. It will be far more draining, I'll exert
Speaker 2: way more energy, and actually I can solve it in
Speaker 2: far less time. I can actually get to where I
Speaker 2: need to get to. So sometimes what you find is
Speaker 2: stress releases your strategy, and I want you to think
Speaker 2: about that. When else have you been stress recently? And
Speaker 2: how could you have used that stress to become more strategic?
Speaker 2: How could that stress create a better idea, a better option,
Speaker 2: a better solution, Because now you're actually thinking, well, how
Speaker 2: do I do that with less energy and less time?
Speaker 2: And if we looked at life like that, we may
Speaker 2: be able to solve some of those things that create
Speaker 2: more stress, create more pressure in our lives. And I'd
Speaker 2: really consider where and when in your life being more
Speaker 2: strategic will save you from that added stress. Definitely something
Speaker 2: to look at, something to consider, and something to think about.
Speaker 2: Now that also applies to phone calls over zooms. I
Speaker 2: find that when we're listening sometimes I find that when
Speaker 2: I'm on a phone call, I'm actually more present than
Speaker 2: when I'm on a zoom meeting. On a zoom meeting,
Speaker 2: you're on your screen, which means most people have emailed up,
Speaker 2: emails popping up. You're now looking at yourself, and I
Speaker 2: think you have to turn yourself off. I mean, I'd
Speaker 2: actually argue that the amount of time and energy and
Speaker 2: presence that's drained in looking at your own appearance on
Speaker 2: a meeting is so high, and most of us have
Speaker 2: been doing it since the pandemic. Turn your screen off.
Speaker 2: Just look at the other person, even pin the person
Speaker 2: that's speaking, because when you're looking at nine boxes, when
Speaker 2: in a meeting room, would you be looking at nine
Speaker 2: people at the same time, all at the same time,
Speaker 2: It would never happen. You look at the person who's talking.
Speaker 2: Maybe you flip over to one or two, but generally
Speaker 2: you're not looking at nine people all at the same time.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you're on a zoom call with twenty people
Speaker 2: and you're now looking at everyone. Someone's scratching their head,
Speaker 2: someone's looking at their phone, someone's taking notes, someone's talking.
Speaker 2: It can be overwhelming and it can be draining, which
Speaker 2: zoom calls can turn into phone calls. Really important question
Speaker 2: to ask, important to think about all the meetings you have,
Speaker 2: the events you have, the things that you're going to,
Speaker 2: the things you're traveling to. How can you streamline? How
Speaker 2: can you make it simpler. One of my favorite ones,
Speaker 2: which requires a bit more planning, but it's been a
Speaker 2: huge asset in my life, is called a reset day,
Speaker 2: a reset half day, or a reset hour. Based on
Speaker 2: how busy my schedule is, I'll make sure that during
Speaker 2: the weekend I get to have a reset hour, a
Speaker 2: reset half day, or a reset day. What this is
Speaker 2: that it's almost a rehearsal of my most perfect day.
Speaker 2: It's a day where I get to live how I
Speaker 2: wish I could live every day, how I want to
Speaker 2: live every day, how I aspire to live every day.
Speaker 2: But the realist in me that I've worked on being
Speaker 2: when I used to be a perfectionist is saying, let
Speaker 2: me at least have one hour, let me have half
Speaker 2: a day of that, let me have a day of that,
Speaker 2: Let me invest in that. And how incredible would that be?
Speaker 2: How powerful would that be in my life if I
Speaker 2: allowed myself to do that. I love the perfect amount
Speaker 2: of meditation, the perfect workout. I'll eat really well, even
Speaker 2: if it's for an hour. That reset hour or reset
Speaker 2: day is like what we do when our phone's starting
Speaker 2: to jam up and we just switch it off and
Speaker 2: we've reset it. We can't do it with an on
Speaker 2: and off button with ourselves, but we can if we
Speaker 2: take some time out to reset. And I think we
Speaker 2: often think, Okay, no, tomorrow morning's my reset, It's going
Speaker 2: to be a perfect day. Tomorrow morning's my reset. And
Speaker 2: it's almost like we have to carve out time that's
Speaker 2: fully under our control in order to do that effectively.
Speaker 2: Think about that. One thing that we really need to
Speaker 2: start learning to ask ourselves when we are failing drained
Speaker 2: is how can I be kinder to myself? A lot
Speaker 2: of what's draining us is happening within our mind. You're
Speaker 2: not good enough, you're not fast enough. Did you see
Speaker 2: what they did? Look how behind you are? The way
Speaker 2: we talk to ourselves when we look in the mirror,
Speaker 2: you look in overweight, you don't look great today, you
Speaker 2: look tired, you look drained. Can't you do better than that?
Speaker 2: The voice in our head constantly pushing us to be better,
Speaker 2: do better, but not in an encouraging way, not as
Speaker 2: a cheerleader, but as a critic and what's really interesting
Speaker 2: about that is if we're encouraging and empowering ourselves, we
Speaker 2: can achieve great things. But if we're stressing ourselves, we're
Speaker 2: draining ourselves from within. How can you be kinder to
Speaker 2: yourself when you know you need to push yourself more.
Speaker 2: You didn't get to do everything today on your to
Speaker 2: do list, That's okay, you got seven out of ten
Speaker 2: things done. You didn't perform exceptionally well this week at work,
Speaker 2: It's okay, we start.
Speaker 1: Again on Monday.
Speaker 2: Maybe you didn't feel like you were the best around
Speaker 2: your kids this week or the best around your partner.
Speaker 2: It's okay. You can improve and take accountability and let
Speaker 2: them know what's going on. How can you be kinder
Speaker 2: to yourself? If you were kinder to yourself, what do
Speaker 2: you believe you would achieve?
Speaker 1: This next one?
Speaker 2: Slightly harder? When something stressing us out, There's two things
Speaker 2: we can do. One is we can either talk about
Speaker 2: the stress the whole time, and if you talk about
Speaker 2: it with the right people, it actually gets lighter. When
Speaker 2: you talk about your stress with the right people, it
Speaker 2: becomes more light. People who help you carry it, people
Speaker 2: who help you make sense of it, people who help
Speaker 2: you think about it. People who just agree with you
Speaker 2: and let you vent are useful too. There's a need
Speaker 2: for you to let that stress out. Being able to
Speaker 2: talk about it to a friend, a therapist, a colleague,
Speaker 2: a person who understands you can be huge. Now. The
Speaker 2: opposite also works distance from the stressor. So you may
Speaker 2: not have distance from the stressor verbally, but you want
Speaker 2: to have distance from the stress so physically, if you can,
Speaker 2: don't be around them, don't be around people who are
Speaker 2: around them, don't be around people who know them. It
Speaker 2: solves your issue when you can distance yourself from having
Speaker 2: to deal with that stressor up close and personal, face
Speaker 2: to face. You don't have to put yourself in that position.
Speaker 2: So ask yourself, can you do that? And if you
Speaker 2: can't do that, then allow yourself to vent, allow yourself
Speaker 2: to have space and time to let it out.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up because I found in my life
Speaker 2: I was sleeping right, I was drinking the right water,
Speaker 2: I was eating right, and I still felt drained. And
Speaker 2: I realized a lot of it was because of a
Speaker 2: lack of vitamins and supplements.
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting enough vitamin D.
Speaker 2: I had others that were low, and as soon as
Speaker 2: I got checked out, it changed my life.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend that you go and.
Speaker 2: Get checked out, because so often we're trying to solve
Speaker 2: something in our mind when actually we need to solve
Speaker 2: it in our body. Right.
Speaker 1: I always say to people like, if you're struggling with your.
Speaker 2: Mind, figure out what you could change about your body,
Speaker 2: and if you're struggling with your body, figure out what
Speaker 2: you could change in your mind. So many of us
Speaker 2: are only looking at one aspect when we need to
Speaker 2: focus on both. This also applies, as I said earlier,
Speaker 2: to the quality of your sleep. Obviously, feeling drained a
Speaker 2: big part of his sleep, diet exercise. Are you drinking
Speaker 2: over three liters of water a day? Are you eating
Speaker 2: healthy proteins, healthy fats in good proportions, getting your carbohydrates right.
Speaker 2: We've got some brilliant episodes on that. Make sure you
Speaker 2: check out our Gut health episodes. And of course, so
Speaker 2: you're getting good deep sleep. We've had sleep experts on
Speaker 2: the show before and study show you need seven to
Speaker 2: nine hours of sleep, ideally starting before midnight.
Speaker 1: So if you're.
Speaker 2: Sleeping seven hours from midnight to seven am, it's different
Speaker 2: from sleeping from ten pm to five am. Those hours
Speaker 2: before midnight are with the human growth hormone HGH is
Speaker 2: most activated. Our ability to have deeper, more quality sleep
Speaker 2: is better when we're doing it before midnight. Now, I
Speaker 2: want to leave you with one last thing, and I
Speaker 2: want to leave you with this idea. If you wake
Speaker 2: up in the morning and the dishes aren't done, how
Speaker 2: does it feel waking up to dirty dishes? That's what
Speaker 2: it feels like, waking up when you didn't clean your
Speaker 2: mind before. Ask yourself at the end of every night,
Speaker 2: when you're drained, what do I want to leave behind today?
Speaker 2: What am I going to consciously intentionally leave behind today?
Speaker 2: What am I going to wash away today? What am
Speaker 2: I going to allow to just be today? Wash your
Speaker 2: mind the night before and leave the draining behind. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for listening today. I truly hope this
Speaker 2: helps you, and remember I'm always rooting for you and
Speaker 2: I'm forever in your corner. If you love this episode,
Speaker 2: you will also love my interview with Charles Douhig on
Speaker 2: how to hack your brain, change any habit effortlessly, and
Speaker 2: the secret to making better decisions.
Speaker 1: Look, am I hesitating on this because I'm scared of
Speaker 1: making the choice because I'm scared of doing the work,
Speaker 1: Or am I sitting with this because it just doesn't
Speaker 1: feel right yet