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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat. Oh yeah, who said

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Speaker 1: MK got no love for those north of the border.

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Speaker 1: It's back, baby, It's the BBC with the BDE one

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Speaker 1: half of your weekly Morning Combat Duo. It's Wednesday, August eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one. Welcome back Hump Day edition

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Speaker 1: BC on the Controls today as the Great Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: continues his vacation in an undisclosed location. But you know

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Speaker 1: that face next to me, A guy who still prefers

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Speaker 1: girls who wear Abercrombie and Fritz. It's MMA's answer to

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Speaker 1: Elvis Costello TSNs Aaron Bronsteader making his set second appearance

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Speaker 1: on the greatest talk show and fight history. AB great

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Speaker 1: to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate the compliment. Elvis Costello an absolute legend.

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Speaker 2: But BD is the biggest dork ever. I mean, is

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Speaker 2: that the the insult you're throwing under the bus right

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Speaker 2: off the top?

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Speaker 3: What's BD?

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Speaker 1: No? No, see guys like me, We've got We've got

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Speaker 2: Oh so okay, I understand what you're saying now that

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Speaker 2: that's the b D see I interpreted it as big

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Speaker 1: That that's just you being cynical. Back by popular demand,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Aaron Bronstetter, and I've never had the

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Speaker 1: And by popular demand, I mean I don't typically read articles,

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Speaker 1: damn right, bronstead a on the MK. Let's do this thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to the Canadian MMA journalists,

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Speaker 2: Well, Calvin Gastallom is like the cockroach of the middleweight division.

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Speaker 3: And for Kelvin Gastolim, I just you look at this.

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Speaker 1: But how many times do we need to see him

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. I do think though, if Costa

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Speaker 1: a bit mercurial in the cage where you know, remember

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Speaker 1: that the long stretcher he couldn't make way at welterweight.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna kind of figure it out? And there's

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Speaker 1: some fights where he just you know, even the till fight,

434
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Speaker 1: I wanted them to do more. I think sometimes it's

435
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Speaker 1: just can he get the right formula on the right

436
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Speaker 1: night like he did against Adasania and figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I think your fear is is he gonna take too

438
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Speaker 1: much punishment along the way and trying to figure that out,

439
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Speaker 1: because he did take some punishment against Whitaker and kept

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Speaker 1: coming that Eventually he's just gonna show up a little

441
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Speaker 1: bit older, still not thirty years old, but he's been

442
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Speaker 1: in the pocket. And I think you have to agree

443
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Speaker 1: there's a sexy ass matchup because I expect they're gonna

444
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Speaker 1: be guns blazing until one guy gets down and doesn't

445
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Speaker 1: get up again. I mean, this is a great fight.

446
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Speaker 1: If you we just love action on paper, I.

447
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Speaker 2: Mean, maybe we'll have to see you know, this is

448
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Speaker 2: There's an interesting story that I heard that Chill sun

449
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Speaker 2: And told and you can see it on YouTube. It

450
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Speaker 2: was in on one of his videos where he talks

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Speaker 2: about how when he was training with Gaslam when he

452
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Speaker 2: was coaching him on The Ultimate Fighter, he said that

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Speaker 2: Gastolon is a real gentleman in the cage, especially in

454
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Speaker 2: the training room, where he just matches your energy. Whatever

455
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Speaker 2: gear you're going into, he's gonna match that gear. And

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Speaker 2: Chail said, you know, he was going to first gear,

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Speaker 2: second gear, third gear, and then when he got into

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Speaker 2: third gear with Gaslam, he could tell that Gaslam was

459
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Speaker 2: matching that gear and he was like, I'm just curious

460
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Speaker 2: how many more gears this guy's got. And he's shown

461
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Speaker 2: that he can get up to the fifth gear. It's

462
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Speaker 2: just whether his opponent takes in there, I think is

463
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Speaker 2: the thing that determines if he gets there. He's not

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Speaker 2: the kind of guy that sets the pace of fights,

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Speaker 2: and I think that might be a problem with Kelvin Gaslam.

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Speaker 2: It's something that he should look at he should look

467
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Speaker 2: at dictating the pace. I don't know if it's sports

468
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Speaker 2: psychologists can help him with that, but it seems like

469
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Speaker 2: whatever his opponent does against him, he matches that energy

470
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Speaker 2: and if he's able to get the better of Jared

471
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Speaker 2: Kannon heir in that regard, I think that that this

472
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Speaker 2: is going to be a great fight. But I also

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Speaker 2: think that it wouldn't hurt Cannoneer to kind of take it.

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Speaker 2: You know, don't don't rush into anything, don't try to

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Speaker 2: come out guns a blazing. It's a five round fight,

476
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Speaker 2: and you know the Kelvin Gastlam is gonna go five rounds,

477
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Speaker 2: you know, as long as you're not able to get

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Speaker 2: him out of there. And nobody has been able to

479
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Speaker 2: get him out of there save for Jack ro Manson

480
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Speaker 2: with a sub you know, nobody's to be able to

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Speaker 2: get a KO against him as far as I can,

482
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Speaker 2: as far as I can remember. So this is a

483
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Speaker 2: guy that you've got to You've got to maintain your

484
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Speaker 2: energy for five full rounds. And I don't know have

485
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Speaker 2: we seen can near get into that fifth round before?

486
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Speaker 2: When when he fought against Whitaker, was that that was

487
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Speaker 2: a five round fight.

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Speaker 1: I believe right, Well that was that was a three rounder.

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Speaker 3: There was a three round fight.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if we've seen cannonear in the

491
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Speaker 2: championship rounds, can he can he match Gaslin's energy for

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Speaker 2: five full rounds. So there are just a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions that we're gonna be answered on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We'll put a pin in that for about twenty seconds

495
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Speaker 1: about what cannoneer expects quickly. I think you're right, Gaslin

496
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Speaker 1: plays up or down to competition. I think that's why

497
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Speaker 1: he got sucked into a technical battle to a degree

498
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Speaker 1: against Till, And maybe he didn't bring out the best

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Speaker 1: of himself. Maybe it's why, you know, without as Sonia

500
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Speaker 1: matching his energy, they both found that fit gear. Speaking

501
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Speaker 1: of shifting gears, I don't mean to curse you, but

502
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Speaker 1: I tab you as probably being seven years away from

503
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Speaker 1: a midlife crisis purchase of a sports car.

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Speaker 2: He might be right. I mean, how old will my

505
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Speaker 2: youngest be? Say, they'll be nine? Yeah, maybe maybe my

506
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Speaker 2: oldest will be away at university in about seven or

507
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Speaker 2: he'll be nearing universe in about seven years.

508
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Speaker 3: So you know, you might be right.

509
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Speaker 2: He might be right.

510
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Speaker 1: O very Canadian of you been looking at.

511
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Speaker 2: Mustangs, eye the Mufftangs and the Challengers, and I'm walking

512
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Speaker 2: down the street with my dog and they see them

513
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Speaker 2: parked in driveways.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll see all.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, back to Canon, ear will throw it

516
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Speaker 1: to And now it's an interesting point you said, should

517
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Speaker 1: he go guns blazing? Should he try to test his

518
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Speaker 1: own cardio and see if you can go the distance?

519
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Speaker 1: Let's see what he expects in our final clip heading

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Speaker 1: into Saturday. Good stuff, deep stuff right there, great chatting

521
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Speaker 1: with the Jared Cannon there of course this Saturday, you

522
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Speaker 1: and Kelvin Gasla main event UFC Fight Night, Las Vegas

523
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Speaker 1: at the apex enclosing, what can we expect when you

524
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Speaker 1: and Gasola and touch gloves Saturday night?

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Speaker 4: Fireworks, sparks, lightning, a good ass show. It's gonna be

526
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Speaker 4: a badass fight. Everybody knows what Kelvin's bringing. Kelvin's brings

527
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Speaker 4: to the to the UH, to the equation. Everybody knows

528
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Speaker 4: or things they know what I bring to the equation,

529
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Speaker 4: but only us to know what we bring to the equation.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that we had both signed on the

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Speaker 4: dotted line to come into this main event and put

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Speaker 4: on the show for the millions of fans of who

533
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Speaker 4: are going to be watching. Is enough to say that

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a it's gonna be a banger man.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kevin throws down.

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Speaker 4: And I get it on and I get it in,

538
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Speaker 4: and I planned on yep, I plan on again doing

539
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Speaker 4: to him what I intended to do to Robert before

540
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Speaker 4: I broke my arm.

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Speaker 1: Kelvin about to funk around and get crystallized. You know

542
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying this, This this could be in Jared,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir for the time he gets it in

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Speaker 1: and he gets it out. Sounds a lot like Bronstetter

545
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Speaker 1: in college.

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Speaker 2: Hey, don't get me fired, BC, don't get me fired.

547
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that a couple of times during the show.

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Speaker 2: Just just don't get.

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Speaker 1: Any That's a good bet right there. Special thanks to

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Speaker 1: Jared Cannon. Here. You can check out that that at

551
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Speaker 1: length twenty minutes of content on YouTube dot com slash

552
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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. So check that out quickly. Here A be

553
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Speaker 1: looking up and down. This fight night card not overly loaded.

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Speaker 1: Is there another storyline, another situation that you have your

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Speaker 1: eyes pinned on.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was one situation that I think has been

557
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Speaker 2: plaguing cards that are taking place at the Apex in

558
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Speaker 2: recent weeks is whether or not fights are going to

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Speaker 2: fall off. We saw three fights fall off yesterday, you know,

560
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Speaker 2: And I hate to talk about the COVID boogeyman on

561
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Speaker 2: the show. You know, it seems like it's never wants

562
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Speaker 2: to go away. And I know Luke is on vacation.

563
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to spare your viewers from this from the

564
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Speaker 2: end of the Doom and Gloom, but it does concern

565
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Speaker 2: me when you start to see fights fall off midweek

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Speaker 2: leading up to a card, and we've seen fight cards

567
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Speaker 2: go from fifteen fights to eleven very quickly, and you know,

568
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Speaker 2: it leads to a shorter event. And I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of people like that, but I want to see

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Speaker 2: as many fights as possible. So let's keep our fingers

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Speaker 2: crossed that this one isn't that as effective as a

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Speaker 2: lot of the other recent fights at the Apex. But

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Speaker 2: it seems like that is the reality of the situation.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a mixed bag in that co

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Speaker 1: main event, as Clay Gueda, who has the same job

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Speaker 1: title as My Savior there, so shout out to him.

577
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Speaker 1: Still soldiering on at the end of his career against

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Speaker 1: Marco Matson, who's not young. But I'm still waiting for

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Speaker 1: that signature. Marco Manson has transitioned from grappler to legitimate

580
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Speaker 1: MMA fighter and he's a threat. Does that come on

581
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Speaker 1: Saturday Night, that that signature performance.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the signature performance comes, but I

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Speaker 2: think that question might be answered because I think that

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a very high paced, high motor Clay Guida,

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Speaker 2: a guy it's gonna be very difficult to take down.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be on the feet.

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Speaker 2: And if you're on the feet with Clay Gueda for

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Speaker 2: three rounds, you know Clay Gueda is going to outwork you.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be up to Mark Matson to land

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Speaker 2: more damage over the course of those three rounds.

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Speaker 3: Because if you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna place a bet on who's gonna land more significant

593
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Speaker 2: strikes in that fight, you gotta lean with Guida because

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Speaker 2: that's just his mo He's got that high motor, he

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Speaker 2: doesn't quit, he goes all three rounds with and he

596
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Speaker 2: could exhaust Marco Madson in this fight. I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people think this fighte the slam dunk for

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Speaker 2: Marco Madtson, I'm not up that opinion.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is gonna be one.

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Speaker 2: Of those situations where if Marco Matson cannot land these

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Speaker 2: takedowns against Guida, and it's gonna be very difficult to

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Speaker 2: do because Gueda has got a very good wrestling background

603
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Speaker 2: and has shown that he can toff takedowns in the past,

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Speaker 2: and has also shown that he can take people down when

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Speaker 2: he wants to beas he's so fast and he gets

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Speaker 2: in so quickly with those doubles. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: this is the same dunk for Marco Matson. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: learn a lot about him on this particular card. I

609
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Speaker 2: think this is gonna be a particularly tough stylistic matchup

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, even though he's too and o

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Speaker 1: in the UFC, we've seen his gas tank, you know,

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Speaker 1: tested a bit. I mean, it's it is a transition

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Speaker 1: to get to this level, and Guita, even at this age,

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Speaker 1: is a guy that will test that gas tank in

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Speaker 1: Like a famous Canadian Harold Howard once said, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna come come.

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Speaker 3: On, come on, If you're coming on, come on, come on.

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Speaker 1: Gweeda is comming Okay, he will be there, so interesting

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Speaker 1: Clard Saturday Night not the only MMA this week. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Friday Night we'll get the return of Bellatour. I think

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Speaker 1: it's caratanov Chech Congo will break that down on Friday show.

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Speaker 1: We're also gonna get the PFL in a second. But

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Speaker 1: let's hit up this and some people are gonna cringe

625
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Speaker 1: and sigh at this, But Connor McGregor won't stop tweeting

626
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Speaker 1: right now, and his recovery from the injury suffered in

627
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Speaker 1: the trilogy about with Dustin Poier. We've seen him in

628
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Speaker 1: spats with just about everyone, Daniel Cormier accusing him of

629
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Speaker 1: being drunk and fat on the job just in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours. Good God, Connor versus Michael Bisban

631
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Speaker 1: could be coming to a theater near you based on

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Speaker 1: some of the trash talk back and forth. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Bisbean did hit him with a zinger last night of

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Speaker 1: go At Bisbing.

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Speaker 2: Connor's great at trash talk, but you have to really

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Speaker 2: elevate your game when you're coming at the Bisbings and

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Speaker 2: jail sun Ins of the world.

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Speaker 3: Those guys are just the wit. Between those two guys, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, you just gotta be careful, just ted carefully

640
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Speaker 2: when you're playing that game with Bisbing.

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Speaker 1: Connor shows a picture of Bisbee sitting in coach, referencing

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Speaker 1: that his mom flies in private planes, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: Bisbee comes back with what's getting deleted faster your tweets

644
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Speaker 1: or your legacy? Oh god, wow wow? Yeah, that's that's

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00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: those them are fighting words. But the focus here is

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Speaker 1: on welterweight champion tomorrow Usman. Connor responded to a fan question,

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Speaker 1: you know he must be bored, he was killing some

648
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Speaker 1: time and mentioned that he would essentially knock Usman spark

649
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: out or spark him too or whatever that UK speak

650
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Speaker 1: is that means knockout. And you know tomorrow Usman, my

651
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: number one pump for pound fighter in the world at

652
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: the moment, is not going to take that. He came

653
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: back and responded, I don't know if we have that

654
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: tweet their gaff to throw up there on Social Justice Wednesday.

655
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Spark who you must be talking about that pipe you've

656
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Speaker 1: been smoking. Unlike you, I'm gonna talk shit, blah blah blah.

657
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: End of story. So here's the dlab. Connor is at

658
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: the point where we're questioning his sanity where we're questioning

659
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Speaker 1: whether he's pathetic. We're questioning a lot of things, and

660
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: I know there's people listening. Go come on, get to

661
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Speaker 1: the next segment. This sucks, I know. Oh nobody is

662
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: like actively like make Usman McGregor. Do you think we

663
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: could put it past the UFC though that if Usman

664
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Speaker 1: gets past Colby Covington in the rematch later this year,

665
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: are you what degree or level of confidence do you

666
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: have that Connor McGregor couldn't be next?

667
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: He could absolutely be next, Like people are dreaming if

668
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: they don't think that this fight could happen.

669
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Speaker 3: Connor McGregor holds the cards.

670
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: He's the one athlete in the UFC that holds any

671
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: sort of cards in terms of what their fate is

672
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: in the promotion. If he says I want one fight,

673
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: I just want Usman. Otherwise I'm not coming back. I'll

674
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: sit on the sidelines. They'll make that fight. They have

675
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: to because the money is there. The amount of money

676
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Speaker 2: they make on Connor McGregor fights is astronomical, So he

677
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: does to an extend half leverage when it comes to

678
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Speaker 2: any sort of fight negotiations that he has because they

679
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: want him to come and fight.

680
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: I know we're talking about this later, but you look

681
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: at what the UFC's.

682
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Numbers are this year financially from endeavor of disclosing them.

683
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Speaker 2: A lot of that has to do with McGregor fighting

684
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: twice this year. I mean, this guy brings the dollars,

685
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: He filled seats, and I think that if he came

686
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: out and said this is the fight I want Usman,

687
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: you think Usman's gonna turn that fight down. Husman probably

688
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: thinks it's easy money, you know. I just don't see

689
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: why people would rule this out. Listen, there's a meritocracy

690
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: a lot of the time in the UFC, but you've

691
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: got to remember at its core, this is a promotion.

692
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: This is a business, and if you want to make money,

693
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Speaker 2: you make the fights that make money.

694
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Speaker 1: Right.

695
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that, right, And I think that

696
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: I always say that you can compare it to George

697
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: Orwell's animal Farm, you know, where he says all animals

698
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: are equals, some animals are more equal than others.

699
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor is more equal than others.

700
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: He's just one of those guys, and there aren't that

701
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Speaker 2: many of them in the UFC right now.

702
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Speaker 1: Membership has its privileges. Usman, by the way, has already

703
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: beaten pretty much everybody in the rankings not coming off

704
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: a loss except for Vicente Luke, and that's just at

705
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: this moment not going to be a sexy jump out.

706
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Speaker 1: Let's put it up there as a pay per view

707
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: main event could happen. Luke probably need another win there.

708
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Of course, lee On Edwards still deserving, although he also

709
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: lost to Usman before Usman became champion. It just again

710
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: would make too much sense and dollars that they would

711
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: do it. But man, you know, in terms of the

712
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: potential of title shots that you don't want to see

713
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: that you would outright just deem undeserving. I'm always gonna

714
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: put Dan Henderson in the rematch with Bisping up there,

715
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: because Henderson was forty six on the way out hadn't

716
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Speaker 1: beaten anybody of significance to earn it. Although look, let's

717
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Speaker 1: give him his full credit and say he almost won

718
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: that fight twice at forty six. You know, wild he

719
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Speaker 1: heard Bis being big time. Although I obviously understood the

720
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: storyline connection UFC one hundred, the revenge and all that,

721
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: but I think this would actually be worse than when

722
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Speaker 1: Chail Sonnen, who was already sort of solved and used

723
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Speaker 1: up at that point as a trash talking pay per

724
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Speaker 1: view you know, b Sider when he got thrown in

725
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: there against John Jones, and we're just like, why this

726
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: is a division too high? He's not on this level,

727
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve this. Why is he getting the title

728
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: shot outside of let's get some tough ratings and let's

729
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: sell a pay per viewer two. You'd have to agree,

730
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Speaker 1: you have to believe McGregor Rusman would so way more

731
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: than those two I just mentioned, so that gives it

732
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Speaker 1: even more chance of happening. But ab gone to your head,

733
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: you can't give them much of a chance in this

734
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Speaker 1: right at all.

735
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Speaker 2: The odds have it at minus seven hundred for Uzman,

736
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Speaker 2: and I posted those odds because I was told them

737
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Speaker 2: as they went up, and every single response was almost

738
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Speaker 2: with people saying I would be willing to bet my

739
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: house and car at minus seven hundred at that Kamara

740
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: Uzman wins this fight. And I think the only reason

741
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: that this line hasn't gone up is because when you

742
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: look at future bets like this, you're only allowed to

743
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Speaker 2: wager about five hundred dollars on it, So like the

744
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: comeback on a five hundred dollars bet on Uzman would

745
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: be like eighty dollars, right, So you know, no, I

746
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: don't think there are a lot of people that want

747
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: to just put five hundred dollars aside for an indefinite

748
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: amount of time, right, I think it's a year. Probably

749
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Speaker 2: just leave it inside your sportsbook in hopes of winning

750
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: eighty dollars. I just don't think that a lot of

751
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: people are doing that, and that's why the line isn't moving.

752
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: I think that this line, if this fight happened, would

753
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: move even further in Uzman's direction, and that's just what

754
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: the public consensus seems to be.

755
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I wouldn't give him much of a chance.

756
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: But one title challenger you forgot to mention, of course,

757
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: in as much harold the debut Joe Soto taking on TJ. Delash,

758
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: I know, not as a replacement.

759
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: Injury replacement, but great point is just the same anytime

760
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Nico Montagno is near a title too, I can offer

761
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: the same advertisement there. Wow, hopefully Connor's not focusing on

762
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: the other lines that we're talking about, because there is

763
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: a lot of question about where his head is at.

764
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just trolling the world. Who knows, We'll see,

765
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: of course, he will be in the headlines relentlessly, because

766
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: that is what happens. Let's keep it going. Some real mma,

767
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: so to speak, goes down Thursday night, PFL eight. It's

768
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: the semi final round of the playoffs for women's lightweights

769
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Speaker 1: for the heavyweights. The focus here, obviously, though Aaron bron

770
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Speaker 1: Setter is the women's lightweights and the big star in

771
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: that pond, the big fish, Kayla Harrison herself. She's not

772
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: the number one seed in this tournament. That goes to

773
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Speaker 1: Larissa Pacheco, who's also fighting on Thursday night, But Kayla's

774
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: the draw. Kayla is the main event. She's arguably the

775
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: most dominant woman in the world at this moment. She'll

776
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: be in there against Jennif Fabian, who is very i

777
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: want to say, inexperience. Right she's five and one overall,

778
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: she's six feet tall. Though I'm sure you saw that

779
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: that stare down right there. We're gonna get into Kayla's

780
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: future and her comments and contracts and all that, but

781
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: as it pertains to this set of playoffs right here,

782
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: is there anyone in this final four that that can

783
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: give anything to Kayla in your eyes, the.

784
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: Rest of Pachaco seems to have improved quite a bit

785
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: since last season. But we saw that fight went last time.

786
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: I think that of anybody that's in the tournament, she

787
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: would be the one that I think could push Kayla

788
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Harrison just a little bit. But you know, I imagine the

789
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: odds for that fight are gonna be, you know, Harris

790
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: and minus six hundred, minus seven hundred. But Pachaco's looked

791
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: good and it's been nice to see her her stick around.

792
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: I know she was a really good young prospect when

793
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: she came to the UFC, but was just a little

794
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: bit too green. So it's nice to see her career

795
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: trajectory and how it's turned out for her in the

796
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: PFL because she she's looked really good this season and

797
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: last season.

798
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a potential good storyline here if both advanced.

799
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Meeting Kayla Harrison, who's taken on Jenni Fabian and then,

800
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the twenty six year old Brazilian slugger

801
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Larissa Pacheco, who is the top seed in this tournament.

802
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: She had two knockouts on her road to getting here.

803
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: She'll be taken on Taylor Guardado, and to speak of

804
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Pachako's resume against tough outs, I mean, these are her losses,

805
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: Jessica Androd's in the UFC, Jermaine de Random in the UFC,

806
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison to open on PFL one and then the

807
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: last time PFL put out a tournament twenty nineteen, when

808
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: Pachako met Kayla Harrison for the championship in that final

809
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: round and lost a five round unanimous decision. I talked

810
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: to Kayla Harrison earlier this season. I'm sure you did too.

811
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: She's not scared about what Pachaco brought then or what

812
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: she brings now, and I think we can agree it's

813
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: a different Kayla Harrison at thirty one. We know the

814
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: story with her now adopting more or less the children

815
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: of one of her siblings, in becoming a mom sort

816
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: of out of nowhere, and how much that's put her

817
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: her nose to the grind and sort of taking this

818
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: more serious. But ab look, it's different than just that

819
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: she's caught wrestling promos. She's going out there to destroy people.

820
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: At thirty one, she's a tank in there. I mean,

821
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: is she among the top three or four pound for

822
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: pound women in the world right now or is it

823
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: at different levels of competition in your eyes?

824
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a bit of both. We haven't

825
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: really seen her against the best of the best, but

826
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: from what we've seen her do to every single opponent

827
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: that has been put in front of her, you have

828
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: to consider her a top four, top five pound for

829
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: pound fighter in the world right now. It's actually a

830
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: pretty unique situation where you have i'd say three of

831
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: the four top pound four pound women in the sport

832
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: right now in three different promotions. You got Kayla and

833
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: the PFL, you got Cyborg and Bellator, and you've got

834
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Amanda Noon as of course in the UFC. It's just

835
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: a very unique situation because I think that Kayla Harrison's

836
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: next move is going to be against one of those

837
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: two aforementioned individuals, and I.

838
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: Think that that's going to be exciting.

839
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, Kayla Harrison doesn't fear any opponent, but she

840
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: does seem to have one major fear, which is the

841
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: fear of not fulfilling her potential, not earning those legacy

842
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: wins that will make her in the conversation of being

843
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: one of the greatest women to ever enter the cage

844
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: and I'm eager to see what happens, not just in

845
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: this tournament but beyond for Kayla Harrison, because she's scary,

846
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: she's really good, she's really the terman. She's a fantastic

847
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: interview I always love speaking with her. She's very honest.

848
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: So I think that that's something to watch because I

849
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: think she's got just such massive upside in the sport.

850
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: I think if you were to look at somebody.

851
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 2: That could give both Cyborg and noon As a run,

852
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: I would say that she would certainly push both of

853
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: them to their absolute limits.

854
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: And I know it could be easy to say, why

855
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: are we talking about the future when she's entering the

856
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: playoffs here, because she's going to be such a big

857
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: betting favorite for the right reasons. I mean, there's been

858
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: a different edge tours I mentioned this season. She's tend

859
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: to no overall in her career, obviously, the former two

860
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: time Olympic judo gold medalist, and she's had such an

861
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: efficiency in a destruction, getting a first round TKO of

862
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Marianna Maris in the first round, that first round submission

863
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: via Armbauer of Cindy dan Wat it's just been like

864
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: she could It's almost as if you know, she can

865
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: choose how she wants to end these fights. She's just

866
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: been steamrolling. So with that said, talk of her future

867
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: has popped up during these rounds of interviews, and she

868
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: did an interview with mmamania dot com and I want

869
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: to read you these quotes because it's almost as if

870
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: Kayla's attitude has been like picking up more fuel each

871
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: fight in each interview rounds. Right now, she's more willing

872
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: to not, let's say, talk trash, but just be honest

873
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: and say I'm the best in the world and I'm

874
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna be the greatest of all time, and no one's gonna,

875
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, stop me. These are her quotes now about PFL. Obviously,

876
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: I have these next two fights in front of me.

877
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: These are the most important things. I gotta go out

878
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: there and I have to dominate and instill my will.

879
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: I've also come to the realization that if PFL and

880
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: I are going to negotiate, and if they're unable to

881
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: bring in new talent or whatever, they're going to have

882
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: to offer me life changing money in order for me

883
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: to be willing to give up my chance at legacy.

884
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: That's kind of where Matt mentally, I know the PFL

885
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: is negotiating with my manager right now, who of course

886
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: as manager of the stars, Elie Abdelazi's, and that's the

887
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: stuff that I let them deal with. I have a

888
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: job to do. Ab Those are some of the strongest

889
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: comments she used to this point, saying life changing money.

890
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: She's already made some good purses from the PFL. The

891
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: one million prize at the end of the season championship

892
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: has probably been a big part of her trying to

893
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: establish her name here. If she keeps rolling, do we

894
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: never see her under the PFL banner again after these playoffs?

895
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: Well, I'll add to what you said, because I spoke

896
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: to her as well. The interview that I did with

897
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: her is coming out today and I said to her,

898
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: in any year from now, what division do you think

899
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: you'll be fighting in? And she's had one hundred and

900
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: forty five pounds and I said, oh, great news. The

901
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: PFL is going to be doing a featherweight tournament next year.

902
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: And she we had a good chuckle. We had a

903
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: good chuckle about that, because clearly that's not what she

904
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: was implying when she said she was going to be

905
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: fighting at one forty five. And as you said, like

906
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: she needs life changing money from the PFL in order

907
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: to consider coming back there. She's made no qualms about

908
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: a that she was unhappy about the quarantine at the

909
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: first event, she had to bring her two kids into

910
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: the bubble with her. She was very upset about that

911
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: and voiced her displeasure towards that. And it seems like

912
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: we've got a breakup that is going to be happening

913
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: as of October twenty seventh, I think she said was

914
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: the last day of her contract. Once that happens, I

915
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: think we're going to start seeing some negotiations and whether

916
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: or not she ends up in the UFC or bellator,

917
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: I think is anyone's guess. I did like how she

918
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: responded to Dana White when Dana White said is she ready?

919
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: Is she ready for the UFC yet?

920
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: And her response was, listen, Dana, if you want to

921
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: sign me, we can make a lot of money together.

922
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Now you're speaking that man's language. So I'm eager to

923
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: see what ends up happening with Kayla Harrison going forward.

924
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: She is ready, by the way she's I.

925
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: Think that she could.

926
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: I think that she could beat much of the one

927
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five pound division in the UFC, which

928
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: contains of what four fighters, five fighters?

929
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: That's the prob I mean that adds to the equation

930
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: certainly because the UFC is just a very very narrow

931
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: field there at one forty five. But you know, even

932
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: if she were a one thirty five or whatever, I

933
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: don't care what weight she was at, I would say,

934
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: put her up against the best in the UFC. She's

935
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: a She's just a professional man. You know. She's a

936
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: freak athlete. She's strong as nails, and she seems to

937
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: have all of those championship intangibles. You don't become a

938
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: two time gold medalist, you know, for and not have it,

939
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: so to speak. So she's going to be a star,

940
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: and it has been has become musty TV to see

941
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: her each stop out, especially this season with the change

942
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: in attitude to close on PFL here, I don't have

943
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: a lot to say about the heavyweight tournament in the

944
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: playoffs there. It hasn't moved me at all. You can

945
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: cut me off if you want to break down your

946
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: favorites there. But I've been tipping the cap to PFL

947
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: all season straight up. Abe. I don't want to go

948
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: near their product last year or even the year before,

949
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: I've watched fights here and there, it's been okay. Maybe

950
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: I was sore that the PR team was harassment level

951
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: aggressive to try to be to get interested and interview

952
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: their fighters, to the point where I was just like,

953
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: can I put out a restraining order against you? But

954
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: this year, dude, I don't know if it's the broadcast,

955
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: the announced team. You know, I don't need a smart cage,

956
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: I don't need the stats and all that. But I've

957
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this product. Do you echo what I'm saying

958
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: that they have made major strides forward this year?

959
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked the PFL as well. I like

960
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: that they have a mind towards innovation.

961
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: Now.

962
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: I know that a lot of the different things where

963
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: you see the smart cage and you see all of

964
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: those different numbers that come up at the end of

965
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: the rounds, you just got to take that for what

966
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: it is. It's entertainment value, that's all. Don't read too

967
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: much into it. But I do think that does confuse

968
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: the viewer. I think that if the viewer sees that

969
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: somebody you know, got a ninety five whatever rating for

970
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: that round, and then the other guy got a sixty

971
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: five and then the judges gave it to the guy

972
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: who got a sixty five.

973
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 3: I think it causes some confusion.

974
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: That being said, I'm never going to fault a promotion

975
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: for trying new things, and I think the PFL has

976
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: done a good job of trying to innovate it. I

977
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: like their the repcams. I think that they just they

978
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: try to throw things at the wall and see what sticks.

979
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: And I like that mentality from you know, a promotion

980
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: that is not quite to the level of a UFC,

981
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: but you know, kind of the second tier promotion. I

982
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: like seeing that from them. I think that they've got

983
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: a great roster. I think that they have a lot

984
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: of fighters that could be top ten in the UFC.

985
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: And you know, I think a lot of people get

986
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: upset with me for saying that, but I think that

987
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: Mago mad magom Met Karamov could be top ten in

988
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: the UFC. Ray Cooper the third could be top ten

989
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: in the UFC. I mean, Antonio Carlos Junior we've seen,

990
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: has already been ranked in the UFC. Kayla Harrison of course,

991
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: would be, you know, a top fighter in the UFC.

992
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: And I think even Pachaco, if she decided to go

993
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: back to one thirty five. She could ever make that way,

994
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: could be a player in that division in the UFC.

995
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: So you just look at a lot of these different

996
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: fighters and how they've performed, and I think that we

997
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: see that they have a lot of great talent, and

998
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: I believe that we're going to continue to see some

999
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: great tournaments in the future from the PFL. I like

1000
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: their format, I like the way that they do things.

1001
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: I think that it's a lot of fun, and I've

1002
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: enjoyed watching this season as much as I've enjoyed watching

1003
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: their previous season. I think that there's just a really

1004
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: high level of competition and the tournament format is really good.

1005
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: Now it has some flaws and there's certainly some things

1006
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: that can be short up, but at the same time,

1007
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: I think that this is a promotion that has a

1008
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: lot of upside.

1009
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one million dollar prize also, which which of

1010
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: course Belator also gives out, and they're Grand Prix. That's

1011
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: a big key if you're trying to compete, you know,

1012
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: with the top that's a nice little offer, especially during

1013
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: this season of fighter pay woes. For sure, speaking of

1014
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: a guy who's very outspoken when it comes to Fighter

1015
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Pay and UFC Fighter Pay. It's Jake Paul, the problem child,

1016
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: the YouTube turned boxing sensation. Of course, a little more

1017
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: than a week from now, Sunday Night, August twenty ninth,

1018
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: he will be in there on Showtime pay per view

1019
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: against Tyron Woodley. I'm looking forward to it, Luke and

1020
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: I will be on the ground in Cleveland. Should be

1021
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: a wild time, should be fun, should be wacky, and

1022
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: it also should be a good fight with two guys

1023
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: going for the ko. Speaking of going for it, we

1024
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: teased it a little on Mondays. Have you seen the shit?

1025
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Jake Paul has put out this hit list and it

1026
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: got a you know, a chuckle around the around the

1027
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: horn there, maybe because he called Tyson Fury's brother Tommy

1028
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: Timmy Fury, and maybe for some of the comments during

1029
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: the interviews this week that Jake given. But as we

1030
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: look at the hit list and what it is is

1031
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: the idea of who's next. And you see on that

1032
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: hitlist the three opponents already that Jake has taken out,

1033
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: none of them are are great indications of how good

1034
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: of a boxer he really is, although he's dominated at

1035
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: all three. You know, a YouTuber, a former NBA guard

1036
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: and a former you know, wrestling and wrestling heavy MMA champion.

1037
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: Now he'll get a very much more legitimate test and Woodley.

1038
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: But if he wins this ab and we look at

1039
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: that hit list, and the hitlest's got some wild names.

1040
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: It's got names that may not be realistic. It's got

1041
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, it's got his brother on there with a

1042
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: question mark maybe as a joke. But where do you

1043
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: think he'll be in terms of the forward progress of

1044
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: this matchmaking and where we are in this celebrity boxing

1045
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: bubble at the moment. Keep in mind we've got Anderson

1046
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: Silva and Tito Ortiz coming up. If Jake Paul survives

1047
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: in advances like he says he will, who do you

1048
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: think is realistic moving forward on his hit list?

1049
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: That's why Andrews and Silva is not on that list.

1050
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: I think Andrews and Silva would be a good one

1051
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: to make next if he's able to beat Tito or Teas.

1052
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: In that boxing match, which I think he will.

1053
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: But if you look at the list, you've also got

1054
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: to gauge what's actually possible. Like the UFC is not

1055
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: going to loan people to showtime to have them fight, Like,

1056
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: what would the UFC have to gain from loaning one

1057
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: of their top names to Showtime to box against Jake Paul,

1058
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: Like they gained literally nothing from it. Jake Paul continues

1059
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: to say bad things about Dana White in the UFC,

1060
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: like that you can just kind of throw those names

1061
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: out the window. And then if you look at the

1062
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: other names, Jervonte Davis, I mean, you're talking about way

1063
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: different sizes in terms of way different way different weight classes.

1064
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: Not that that would stop Jervonte Davis from taking a

1065
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: fight like that, but I think I think that if

1066
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: you look at what's actually possible, that the Logan Paul

1067
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: one is probably the most interesting out of all of them. Honestly.

1068
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: I mean, don't you think if you have the two

1069
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: Paul brothers boxing against one another in a professional bout

1070
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: on Showtime, that would do numbers? I mean, if we're

1071
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: gonna talk about what would do numbers, that would do numbers?

1072
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Speaker 1: It would? I think that's more of it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I've asked them both about it personally, and they've both

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00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: been the done the half and half right, They're like, well,

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00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: we've talked about it. Wouldn't it be great? Wouldn't you know,

1077
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: and it is in line with them doing these sort

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00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: of public well how they make their name as YouTuber's

1079
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: per you know, social media influencers doing public stunts and

1080
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: wacky stuff. It is the ultimate public stunt. They also

1081
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: hedge those comments with our parents would hate it. We

1082
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want that to me. That would probably be

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00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: more of a cash out angle for both. When the

1084
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: bubble of celebrity boxing, which is hot right now, let's

1085
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: be honest, because of them. Maybe it was old Mike

1086
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: Tyson and Roy Jones that that brought in a lot

1087
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: of viewers and got people like Trailer thinking, wow, well

1088
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: this could be a business model. But it's the polls

1089
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: that have kept the balloon alive. Even though I've been

1090
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: very critical of the of how the logan Floyd when

1091
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: ultimately played out from an entertainment factor, I think that's

1092
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: more likely when the bubble bursts. I agree with you

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00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: in the In the interim, it's got to be somebody

1094
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: commercially viable, somebody who can be competitive against at where

1095
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: Jake is at in his growth, if he keeps winning

1096
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: and also realistic, you're not gonna do those UFC guys.

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00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva especially if he gets by Ted Ortiz would

1098
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: be a fantastic to pick. I think the real question

1099
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: is if Jake Paul keeps winning Aaron, because every time

1100
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: you interview Jake, he's like, I'm not here to be

1101
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: That's the difference between Jake and Logan. Logan is like,

1102
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: I'm the YouTube guy who's crashing the boxing party because

1103
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: boxing sucks, and I'm taking your marquee and your money

1104
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: because you guys can't put it together. Jake's the guy

1105
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: who's going no, I'm a real boxer. So if he

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00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: goes out there and knocks out Tyron Woodley, I want

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00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: to know, like how soon do you put him in

1108
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: there with a real boxer And is that real boxer

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00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: going to be an accomplished boxer who's a lot smaller

1110
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: so you're making a carnival matchup? Or is it you know,

1111
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: the Kimbo slice root of going after the washed old guy.

1112
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Put him in there with like d La Hoya, or

1113
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: is it you know, the younger but not accomplished sort

1114
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: of journeyman guy. It's worth asking, And I know they're

1115
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: putting Tommy Fury, who is Tyson's half brother and is

1116
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: a celebrity Ish fighter himself who's made a name for

1117
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: himself on British reality TV. How soon do you think

1118
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: will be toward the idea of Jake facing like a

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00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: real boxer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're a real boxer, you should

1121
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: face boxer's not right, not not mixed martial artists and

1122
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: and things like that, right, so prove it. Hey, how

1123
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: about this? Put him against Shavez Junior. Well, I mean,

1124
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: if you're gonna put him against the boxer and have

1125
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: him build his name, do the same thing that Anderson

1126
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: Silva did. It put him up against Shavez Junior, a

1127
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: guy who was a former champion, who I mean a

1128
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: bit of a joke in boxing circles right now, But hey,

1129
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: he's a guy that has a legitimate boxing record, who

1130
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: has boxed professionally for many years, who's you know, been

1131
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: a champion like I mentioned, So hey, why not make

1132
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: that Let's see where you're really at. Because if Andrews

1133
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: and Silva can beat him, why why can't Jake Paul

1134
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: if he's a real boxer. So that's what I'm eager

1135
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: to see. Listen, if Jake Paul wants to be a

1136
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: real boxer, then then he should be boxing and working

1137
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: his way up the ladder. He's not doesn't has no

1138
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: interest in being a real boxer. He has an interest

1139
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: in being an attraction. And I think that that's fine,

1140
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: and I think that it's good for what it is.

1141
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: I do think that it's a little bit, I'm sure

1142
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: distressing to boxing enthusiasts like yourself and many in the

1143
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: boxing community that we're talking so much about this guy

1144
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: when they are like, great, you know five star boxing

1145
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: matchup matchups like every month that are being completely overlooked

1146
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: for something like this.

1147
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: It's the reality of the situation.

1148
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: Hey, I understand, but listen, I think over time it's

1149
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: gonna eventually get exhausting to keep talking about this guy.

1150
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: But if he keeps winning, we're gonna have to do

1151
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: it well.

1152
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: As I've said many times, if he keeps going for it,

1153
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: so to speak, going in there to try to get

1154
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: the knockout win and risk a knockout loss like I

1155
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: think will happen in this Woodley fight, and if he

1156
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: keeps winning, the bubble's gonna still be there. And you know,

1157
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: I've been through the hamster wheel of emotions as a

1158
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: boxing purist. If I don't want this in my sport,

1159
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously Showtime getting involved from from a

1160
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: morning combat business reality certainly you know, helps helped us

1161
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: get in that direction. But I think also it's fun

1162
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: when it's done right. It is different from regular boxing.

1163
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: It can be a separate, different thing. But I don't know,

1164
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: you think you think they got him in there with

1165
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson eventually. I mean, there are some crazy matchups

1166
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: you can make that the public would really want. It's interesting.

1167
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Jake was asked on an interview with him a Fighting

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00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: this week about some of the members of his hit list,

1169
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: and again, it's not realistic, but he says, of the

1170
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Diaz brothers, I've had beef with Nate back and forth.

1171
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I've beat up one of Nate's boys and sparring, and

1172
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: they're unhappy with that. They think they're super tough guys.

1173
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: So let's prove it again. Not gonna happen. He still

1174
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: thinks he's gonna one day fight Canelo. Not gonna happen. Abe,

1175
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen, all right.

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00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: Right, he wins like three more fights maybe maybe if

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00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: if Canello is willing to do, it'd be big money.

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00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: You know about usman, he says, what is that the

1179
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: camarow Camaro is he named after a Chevy Carr. I've

1180
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: got beef with him too. Not gonna do that one.

1181
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: And of course, surprisingly Jake had some nice things to

1182
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: say about Connor where you know he said, well, mixed

1183
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: with some bad things. He says. Connor's not the same anymore,

1184
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: that's for sure. It's not as interesting as it once was. However,

1185
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: I would still like to beat him up because I

1186
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: would want to freak him to freak out in the

1187
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: ring and go crazy and lose his shit, just like

1188
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: he did against Pourier. So none of those are gonna happen.

1189
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: But there is a fighter who's technically eligible who appeared

1190
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: on Morning Combat on who might have thrown his name

1191
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: or hat in the ring as a potential future Jake

1192
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: Paul opponent. Let's go to the videotape right here. Let's

1193
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: keep it going here, Hey, Jake Paul, Who's back next

1194
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: weekend in a Showtime pay per view on Sunday Night

1195
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: against Tyrone. Woodley has put out a hit list. Now,

1196
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: if we can zoom in Rashad, I'm seeing Okay Woodley Canelo,

1197
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: the Diaz is Camaru Timmy Fury that's supposed to be

1198
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: Tommy by the way, Connor McGregor, KSI, Jervonte, Logan, Paul

1199
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: question Mark, I'm not seeing what sugar Rashad Evans on there?

1200
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Can we get Ali to get you in the sweepstakes? Here? Shot?

1201
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: What is going on here?

1202
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: You know what it is?

1203
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 5: Because he knows he'll get his ass what BC. Listen,

1204
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 5: you can't convince people to want to sign up for

1205
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: an ass flippin because he knows it. He knows, he

1206
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: knows Listen, he knows this. He knows he pay people

1207
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: off on the list do the fight. They wait want it,

1208
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 5: but he knows I'm not gonna take a pay I'm

1209
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 5: not gonna take a dive. And that's what they're avoided.

1210
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Wow, a bigger question, come, poor little sugar on yourself,

1211
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: Jake Paul in the name of love, all right, okay,

1212
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: because because Rashad's still got it, you can make one

1213
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: eighty five or one ninety easy. You'll be looking jacked.

1214
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 5: Yeah easy? Is is that the way they're fighting?

1215
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: That? One ninety? Yeah?

1216
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: About that? About one? I think it's one eighty five? Yeah,

1217
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: that's yeah. I can do that all right? Uh ab

1218
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: uh if you were Allie, and you were advising Rashad.

1219
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Uh you you step it up there, that's a good

1220
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: idea at this point.

1221
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? What does Rashad evans have to lose?

1222
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: You know, it would be a lot of fun. Keep

1223
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: him busy. We know that he wants to get back

1224
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: in there and he wants to compete. He still has

1225
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: that competitive drive. He looks like he's in phenomenal shape.

1226
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: So hey, sure throw that name in that. You know,

1227
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: my podcast co host Mazuka Joe Baltelini would also like

1228
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: to box Jake Paul.

1229
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 3: So lots of people are willing to answer that call

1230
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 3: if it's made.

1231
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: All right, all right, there is money to be made.

1232
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: Rashad still thinks, you know, post licking toad Rashad is

1233
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: a new man, he says. So we'll see, we'll see

1234
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: what happened.

1235
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: We'll see if you have them licked toads before the

1236
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: boxing match. And now now you're really talking.

1237
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: Of course this all the fun and games will be

1238
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: real though when when Jake and Tyren touch gloves. It's

1239
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: August twenty ninth, it's it's next Sunday night, a little

1240
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: bit more than a week out, and h if we

1241
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: can throw to that undercard. There's there's a good mix

1242
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: of real box of some fun stuff going on there.

1243
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: We've got Tyson Fury's brother, Tommy Fury stepping up. There

1244
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: could be a future opponent for for Jake Paul if

1245
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: we see that.

1246
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: Also, you have a mex razazing pretty boy Anthony Taylor,

1247
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: who's on a five fight MNA winning streak. Shout out

1248
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 2: to Anthony Taylor, one of the good dudes in MMA

1249
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: and somebody who's bringing a lot of great awareness to

1250
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 2: mental health issues. So don't don't just say that Tommy

1251
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: Fury's boxing. You got to say that he's fighting boxing

1252
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: against Anthony Taylor. He's a good dude and.

1253
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: Taylor's he's a great guy, all right. He's part of

1254
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: the Paul camp as well. Manda Serrano will be on there.

1255
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: So it's a good mix altogether. We'll check that out

1256
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: next week. Let's keep it going here. To close on

1257
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: our big topics of the week's go back to the UFC.

1258
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: And this one made a lot of headlines and I

1259
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: think rightfully, so what a year so far in twenty

1260
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: twenty one. You referenced earlier for the UFC the quarter

1261
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: two earning statement came out for parent company Endeavor excuse me,

1262
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: and part of that call with Ari Emmanuel or some

1263
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: of the details related to the UFC and what we're

1264
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: finding out, Aaron, is that twenty twenty one is the

1265
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: biggest first half financially in UFC history by friggin' far. Okay.

1266
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: According to the Q two report, UFC's revenue are increased

1267
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: seventy percent year over year to two hundred and fifty

1268
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: eight million in quarter two in twenty twenty one. We

1269
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: know UFC's had some massive years in the past twenty sixteen,

1270
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: with Connor fighting three times and Rond de Rousey back

1271
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: and all that. Uh are you surprised though, given everything

1272
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: that that this year, where which we still had some

1273
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: COVID issues, we still had a few things going on,

1274
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: has been that massive.

1275
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, we've had two Connor fights.

1276
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much of the revenue would be

1277
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: shown showing up in this report, given that I believe

1278
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: the second Connor fight would have been Q three like

1279
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: right at the beginning of Q three. So I'm sure

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: that a lot of the ticket sales and things of

1281
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: that nature would have been built into that Q two result.

1282
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not shocked. It seems like they're doing a

1283
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: lot of different things to make money. And even though

1284
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: these events are taking place at the Apex, primarily when

1285
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: it comes to the UFC Fight Night cards, you do

1286
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: have to remember that a lot of the Fight Night

1287
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: cards lose money when they travel. And part of the

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00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: reason why Fight Night goes to all of these different

1289
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: markets is to kind of galvanize those markets, bring in

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00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: new fans, get people to see the product for the

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00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: first time, and they're willing to take the financial risk

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: to have them go to all of these different markets,

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00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: whereas the Apex is kind of you know, there's not

1294
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: a lot of overhead for those events, and they still

1295
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: do the ratings, they still get a certain amount of

1296
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: money from the rights holders for each of those particular events.

1297
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: So that's that's already a good way to make money.

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: And then of course you've got the Connor factor. You're

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00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: starting to bring the events back to arenas live events

1300
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 2: for the first time and some time, and that they're

1301
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 2: all selling out at high ticket prices, breaking gate records.

1302
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not overly surprised at this. That

1303
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: being said, has there been financial disclosures for previous quarters

1304
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: from previous years, right, Like, what are we comparing?

1305
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: We would have to call up John s Nash, who

1306
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: is currently feuding with over over Twitter. You're saying, yeah,

1307
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to call By the way, what is

1308
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: John Nash hiding for him to be this aggressive to

1309
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: show the UFC's numbers? What are you hiding John Nash?

1310
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: All right, Gosh does have a beautiful mind, So I

1311
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: mean we do have to to go by his numbers,

1312
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: all right.

1313
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: So what's interesting obviously with this boom for the UFC?

1314
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: And look, it's great, it's great for you and I

1315
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: professionally obviously in morning Combat and TSN and CBS Sports,

1316
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: the showtime and all that. When UFC's flourishing like this,

1317
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: a rising tide raises all the ships. That's why every

1318
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: time Connor fights, right with the money gets spent, we

1319
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: get to do the full the full boat and the

1320
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: full show on the road is obviously the how this

1321
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: offsets the the very hot topic which is fighter pay

1322
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: and playing in in a timely fashion. Here is Cyril Gone,

1323
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: your interim UFC heavyweight champion, unbeaten, fresh off of that

1324
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: breakthrough victory over Derek Lewis the stoppage win at UFC

1325
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: two sixty four told a French outlet that he earned

1326
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: just three hundred and fifty thousand for that main event,

1327
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: and after tax isn't paying his coaches will take home

1328
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: just one hundred and eighty eight thousand. Aaron, this is

1329
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: a headlining, undefeated fighter in a UFC pay per view,

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: in a championship fight, and he's taken home less than

1331
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars. I mean, we've done It's nothing new.

1332
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: We've done this debate a million times. No one's here

1333
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: to say fighter pay is on par. It's great, but

1334
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: like it's extra damning when the UFC comes out with

1335
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: seventy percent increase for year over year and you got

1336
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: this unbeaten guy who is just making ends meet. Now

1337
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: that's an exaggeration, but you get what I'm saying. There.

1338
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Will this get fixed anytime soon? How many more positive

1339
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: headlines can we keep having? How many more times contain

1340
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: a wait? Go, I can't bump the bonuses up to

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00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: seventy five K. It would quote fuck up our budget. Dude,

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00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: your budget's on fire right now. I'm kind of interested

1343
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: in picking your bring because Luke and I talk about

1344
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: this ad nauseam. We both agree that for fighters to

1345
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: get paid, there's gonna be a back end to that.

1346
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: And it's the fact that like we as fans and

1347
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: journalists thrive on the great matchups because of the lower

1348
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: fighter pay, the great degree and the way you can

1349
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: force people into matchups. Do you see it change anytime soon?

1350
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: How many more of these big time headlines can John

1351
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Nash put out there before we'll before Data and Company

1352
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: have to adjust.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it changing anytime soon, And I know

1354
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: Luke has said this many times. It's kind of in

1355
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: the fighters hands.

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Speaker 3: You know.

1357
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: We can talk about this as much as we want,

1358
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: but ultimately we're not the ones that are coming up

1359
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: with the contracts, we're not the ones signing the contracts,

1360
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 2: and we're also not the ones that can can do

1361
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: something to get a collective bargain bargaining.

1362
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: Situation by unionizing.

1363
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Speaker 2: So as much as we want to talk about it,

1364
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: and if we want to criticize it, we can criticize

1365
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: it until the cows come home and all of that,

1366
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's kind of in the

1367
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: fighter's hands and it's in the hands of their managers.

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00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: So it's hard for us to continuously go to bat

1369
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: for them in this guard when we really have no

1370
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: power over the situation, and we're not the ones that

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01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: should have any power over the situation.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have the power of the pen, and

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Speaker 3: that's about it.

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Speaker 2: And another thing we have to look at is if

1375
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Speaker 2: you look at the financial disclosures from Endeavor, the company's

1376
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: still reported in that loss of three hundred and twenty

1377
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: million dollars approximately, regardless.

1378
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: Of the UFC success.

1379
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Speaker 2: And we have to keep in mind that while the

1380
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: UFC is doing well, the parent company, Endeavor, needs to

1381
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: do well on top of that, and in the midst

1382
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: of a pandemic, and we still have a lot of

1383
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: moving parts when it comes to talent management and live

1384
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: events and all of the different things that Endeavor are

1385
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: in the business of a lot of that has to

1386
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: be kept in mind when we look at this kind

1387
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: of thing. And even though people say, hey, seventy five

1388
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: thousand dollars versus fifty thousand dollars isn't going to break

1389
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: the budget, you're still allotting an additional one hundred thousand

1390
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: dollars to an event that you didn't have allotted before.

1391
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: And even though you know people will have and say, well,

1392
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: it's going to mess up our budget. The budget is

1393
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: still the budget. If you're on the business end of things,

1394
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: that's not something that really gets adjusted that on the fly,

1395
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: except you know, in certain circumstances, and well, you know,

1396
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to go to back for the UFC here.

1397
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: But these are just little factors that people do need

1398
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: to take into account. And we also need to stop

1399
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: looking at the UFC as a sports league. It's not

1400
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: a sports league. It's a promotional business. And when you're

1401
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: in the promotional business, you have to almost look at

1402
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: it as if you're a concert promoter, or as if

1403
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: you're again in the live events business, not a sports

1404
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: business where we don't have owners of teams, we don't

1405
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: have shares. This is all run by a single entity

1406
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: that has made the sports so gigantic and is bringing

1407
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: in a lot of money, as you mentioned, and as

1408
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: this report mentions, but there are just a lot of

1409
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: little factors that need to be taken into account when

1410
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: it comes to fight or pay that we as people

1411
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: in the media, cannot remedy. We can talk about it

1412
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: as much as we'd like, but this is something that's

1413
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: kind of on the fighters and on the management, and

1414
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: if they're unhappy with it, they can do something about it.

1415
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: We can't do anything about it, So we can talk

1416
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 2: about it till the cows come home. It's a topic

1417
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: that's going to continue as time, you know, for until

1418
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: there is a collective bargaining agreement in place and there

1419
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: is a bigger revenue to share.

1420
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: We can keep talking about it.

1421
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: We can talk about how crypto dot com the fighters

1422
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: aren't getting any of that money and whereas otherwise they

1423
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: would have gotten money when they were getting sponsors on

1424
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: their fight kits. Can we can mention these things, and

1425
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: it's good to bring light to these situations. There's just

1426
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: not much we can do about it.

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01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you a respect as somebody who gets

1428
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: regular access with Dana White and company. You do ask

1429
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: the hard hitting questions, you do sort of go after it,

1430
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: and you do make a good point that we can't

1431
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: overlook the endeavor factor. I said, I brought it up

1432
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: to Dana last year that them Dana being so ridiculously

1433
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: over the top and brave and brazen to put the

1434
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: train back on the tracks during COVID had to do

1435
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: with the idea of the parent company hurting and needing

1436
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: the money. He said, that's bullshit, you know you're talking about.

1437
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: I think it's fairly obvious that it wasn't right, you

1438
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm sure Dana is just wired

1439
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: that way to not be held back by anything. But

1440
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: there was financial incentive to get meet that minimum requirement

1441
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: of that ESPN deal because of how much that that

1442
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: fuels the ship. And but you know, you do see

1443
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: John Nash tweeting out that UFC two sixty four, the

1444
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: promotion paid out just ten percent of the overall gross

1445
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: to the fighters. So until the fighters stand up outside

1446
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: the gates of a pay per view and say we're

1447
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: not join arms and say we're not fighting until you

1448
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: bump it up. And even if they did that, ab

1449
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: Dana's probably got a plane full of fighters who are

1450
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: ready to fly in and take that last minute pick

1451
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: it crossing opportunity.

1452
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: So that's one of the problems, right, is like the

1453
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: fighters are a little bit handcuffed in this situation.

1454
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: You look at the roster and you look at how.

1455
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: Many of these cards are occupied by fighters that have

1456
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: been on the Contender series that are making kind of

1457
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: a lower base salary and it's astronomical, Like if I

1458
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: pull it up here here, let me pull up this

1459
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: weekend's card and just go from top to bottom. Here

1460
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: you've got I think Parker Porter wasn't Contender Series. I

1461
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: don't think he has anymore. But sorry, I don't think

1462
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: that he got the contract that way? But do Mingo Polarte? Did?

1463
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: I think Austen Lingo? Did? Luis Saldana? Did William Knight?

1464
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: Did you just look through all of these names, Ignacio Baha, Mundez,

1465
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Roosevelt Roberts, all of these different fighters that got their

1466
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: opportunity through Contender Series and are on these kind of

1467
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 2: entry level contracts. They can call up anybody who lost

1468
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: in the Contender Series tomorrow. Those guys would jump on

1469
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: a plane and come to Vegas and fight. So it

1470
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: is very difficult for fighters to do this in a

1471
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: way that makes sense. It would have to be the

1472
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: fighters at the top. And I always say the thing

1473
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: about the UFC is the fighters that are on the

1474
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: undercard or in the prelims aren't the ones that are

1475
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: hurting as much as.

1476
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: The fighters that are actually at the top.

1477
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: If you are going to compare it to boxing, because

1478
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: if you look at boxing cards, in the pay structure

1479
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: for a lot of these boxing cards, the opening fights

1480
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: and the first five six fights, these guys are making

1481
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: what one and one, two and two. Sometimes they're not

1482
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: making a lot of money, But the people at the

1483
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: very top are making three four million dollars for their fights,

1484
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars, whereas the fighters at the

1485
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: top of the UFC aren't making the amount of money

1486
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: that these big boxes are. But a lot of the

1487
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: fighters that are making fifteen and fifteen to be the

1488
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: first fight on a fight past prelim, they're actually doing

1489
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: okay if you're gonna compare it to boxing. So these

1490
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: are the kind of things you do have to look

1491
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: at the economics of the sport. I think it's gonna

1492
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: take all of the fighters at the very top to

1493
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: bring everybody together and unless they don't go to.

1494
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: Take you on Rebney. Okay, we don't need be on Rebney,

1495
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: but you do need something.

1496
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 3: But look at that. But think about that though, think

1497
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 3: about that situation. Think about You've got TJ. Dillish, I

1498
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: was at the top of this game.

1499
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: You got Kanevelaska is at the top of the game, GSP,

1500
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: You've got.

1501
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: All those big names coming together company.

1502
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: Many they tried, but then they stop. So you know, well,

1503
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: how long did it last?

1504
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: You had, you had, you had be on revenue, you

1505
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: had a powerhouse, you had you had all of these

1506
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: lawyers on hand, you know, on board to try to

1507
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: help do this. It lasted like three days.

1508
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: Its long, like the press.

1509
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: The sport.

1510
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, we can't fix it, but we can continue

1511
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: to announce the facts. And that's what we did here

1512
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: to close sort of the news of the week. Happy

1513
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: thirty fourth birthday today to the great Yo Wanna Young

1514
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: jay cech former strawweight champion, the champion of our heart.

1515
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Normally I'm not allowed to applaud her with praise on

1516
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: this show because sometimes Luke is a comer, but JJ,

1517
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: come on, Jay, you know you want a champion. Okay,

1518
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: you know we love you. Here, AB's to close out.

1519
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: You just wanted to bring up that the tough twenty

1520
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: nine season has come to a close. Luke and I,

1521
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: full disclosure, have not been following it, but you can.

1522
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the fighters? I know

1523
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: there's this one fella who continues to get some close

1524
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: up Ricky Tercios mm hmm. That guy looks like a

1525
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: like a like a lot of fun.

1526
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting because you're not seeing

1527
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people talk about Tough. But I really

1528
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: enjoy the show. I continue to watch every season. I'm

1529
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: not a big fan of reality TV in general, but

1530
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: I do like watching Tough every single week. But you

1531
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: get to learn about these stories and really get a

1532
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: good feel for these fighters early on in their career,

1533
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: what they're all about, and learn more about their backstories.

1534
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: And I really enjoy that part of it.

1535
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: And while the Contender Series does that to an extent,

1536
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of when I spoke to Dana White,

1537
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: you know a couple I guess a couple of months ago,

1538
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: when Tough was relaunching, I said, Tough is kind of

1539
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: like your craft burger. You can go to a burger

1540
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: joint and you put you get custom toppings, you can

1541
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: get them to cook it well done or whatever or

1542
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: medium rare, you can do you can you can really

1543
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: customize and you get to learn the full story of

1544
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: the burger, whereas the Contender series is kind of a

1545
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: cove conveyor belty.

1546
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: You know, you're you're get you're getting your burgers out

1547
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: to people.

1548
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: You got, you got your your your standard cheeseburger, you

1549
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: got your Big Max. It's that that's what the Contender

1550
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: series is compared to Tough. I kind of like Tough

1551
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: for that reason. You kind of get to really learn

1552
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: about these guys. And you mentioned Ricky Tercio's. Uh.

1553
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: When I first started watching the season.

1554
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not looking for eval to cheer for

1555
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: because I'm in media, but I just really liked his

1556
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: energy that he brought to the show.

1557
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 3: I liked his attitude.

1558
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: He was kind of a later pick, and I know,

1559
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: or take his team were kind of like, this guy's

1560
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: kind of a weirdo. I don't know if we should

1561
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: would draft him. And Bolkanov, He's team did draft him,

1562
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: and I think that it ended up paying off for

1563
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: them because he's just a really enigmatic guy.

1564
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: And then on the other side.

1565
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: Of the things, you got, uh, Brady Brady heat Standing,

1566
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: I believe his name, and he's a guy that trained

1567
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: with Michael Kiss and if you look at his record

1568
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: before he came to the UFC, let's just say you

1569
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: fought a lot of guys that have bad records, Guys

1570
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: that were like oh and four, you know, one and six,

1571
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: that kind of thing where you look at it's like,

1572
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: how's this guy can do in the UFC when he

1573
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: gets to the big show.

1574
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 3: And he's really delivered.

1575
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: You know, this is a guy that Michael Kiosa called

1576
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: the matchmakers and said, I don't ask for a lot

1577
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: of favors, but I'm a guy that won tough, and

1578
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: I think that this guy's got a really big future.

1579
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 2: And he ended up being right because now he's in

1580
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: the finals, and you've got Gasolin fighting this weekend, a

1581
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: guy who was a last pick in the middleweight division,

1582
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 2: and now you've got Brian Battle, who's also a last

1583
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: pick in the middleweight division for his team that's going

1584
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: to go to the finals against Treshon Gora.

1585
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 3: I've just really enjoyed the season.

1586
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: I think that these guys are gonna be a lot

1587
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: of fun to watch, and a lot of them will will.

1588
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: Be, you know, a lot of fun for the UFC.

1589
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: So I'm not avoiding it out of out of any reason.

1590
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: But Tertios has made his way across my radar with

1591
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: with some fun highlights. Seems like to be a fun personality,

1592
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: so he has made me want to begin following his story.

1593
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: What about the season of tough from the standpoint of

1594
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: the coaches. Bryan Ortega the challenger against Alexander Volkanovski, I mean,

1595
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that fight. Has I'm sure

1596
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: no one ripped the door off rampage style, But did

1597
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: we get some juicy moments between them?

1598
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 3: Not a ton of them.

1599
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not necessarily against that. I do think that

1600
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: it's better to put the focus on the actual contestants

1601
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: rather than on the coaches. But it seems like there

1602
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: is some real beef coming out of that show. It

1603
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: seems like they really can't stand each other now for

1604
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: whatever reason. But that didn't really come through on the

1605
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: actual show itself.

1606
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: All right, all right, No, no snake in the grass,

1607
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: no TJ dis.

1608
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: No sneak in the gass, nothing like that.

1609
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: No, although Volkanofki pulled off this really odd, odd prank

1610
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: on the show, like or take it kept showing up late,

1611
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: so he filled the room.

1612
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: He took a dump in the top shelf for the toilet.

1613
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 2: I've seen it. No, no upper deckers, no upper deckers

1614
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: on the season, unfortunately, but he filled up the locker

1615
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: room with clocks and it was just it was one

1616
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: of the worst prank shill.

1617
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: Ever, Yeah, that's that. That's a that's like a that's

1618
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: a that's grow, that's flame. Okay, Hey know Luke Thomas

1619
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: this week, So normally on Wednesday we would hit you

1620
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: up with fan submissions Wheel of Death. I've decided here

1621
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: as co host, I don't have a producer credit of course,

1622
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: to uh create two special segments today for use between

1623
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: BC and AB. So let's keep it rolling. I got

1624
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: a new segment idea right here. We're gonna try it out.

1625
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: Here's the premise. Sometimes I come up with hot takes

1626
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: with some crazy thoughts, so I've decided to write them

1627
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: down on paper. Seven of them. Some crazy takes. Call it.

1628
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: We'll call the segment. Call me crazy.

1629
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: That anyways, I do that anyways. So whatever, Hey, I'm

1630
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: glad you're not throwing the wheel death on me. I

1631
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: don't want that smoke, but I will call you crazy.

1632
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: You're not ready for that. You're not prepared for that.

1633
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll pitch out an idea here, a thought

1634
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: I've got and I really want to hear from UAB

1635
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,919
Speaker 1: in response? Am I crazier? Am I? Am? I secretly

1636
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: onto something? Here? Here we go. Number one speaking of

1637
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor earlier before, in the idea of, hey, maybe

1638
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 1: will he move up to one seventy in fight Kamorrow

1639
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: Usmann call me crazier in Bronsteader, But I don't believe

1640
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor will ever fight in the UFC again below

1641
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy pounds. Hear me out real quick.

1642
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 1: As much as I thought immediately after the third Poorier

1643
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: fight that there was a lot of juice for a

1644
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: fourth one. The more that Connor's kind of exposing himself

1645
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter in the different attitudes he's showing, and the

1646
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: more Porier gets closer to be pushing toward that title

1647
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: shot against Charles Alavera. Connor still got to overcome this injury.

1648
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: He's not doing great pr work for himself. I think

1649
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: it's much more likely that he would come back in

1650
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: a let's say trilogy situation at walter wait against Nate

1651
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: Diaz or in some type of rehash of what he

1652
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: had fighting Cowboy Seroni at walterweight that I think, whether

1653
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: he's coming back against Usman straight for the title, or

1654
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: he's coming back into a fight that's set up for

1655
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: him to win. I really think his future here is

1656
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: at one seventy, and that's not a future because I

1657
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: think he can compete and win against the elite here.

1658
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: I just think that the window's closing on him competing

1659
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: against the elite at one fifty five. And if he

1660
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: can't be one win away from a title shot or

1661
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: just be dropped in there, it's more likely, in my opinion,

1662
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: that he would close his career in sort of action

1663
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: friendly fights against equally vulnerable fighters. For different reasons. I'm

1664
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: not sure if we ever see him again at lightweight

1665
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: before his eventual full time move into celebrity boxing.

1666
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: Call me crazy, you might be onto something there. I mean,

1667
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: I think the one impediment to your crazy idea here

1668
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: is getting one back against Dustin Porier, because I don't

1669
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: think he's gonna want to settle for one hundred and

1670
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: seventy pounds. I think, if you remember when Diaz beat

1671
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: him the first time, he demanded that the remat would

1672
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: at one seventy because he wanted to prove that he

1673
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: could do it without any sort of built an excuse

1674
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: on the DS side. And I think that in this situation,

1675
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the same way with Porier, where if

1676
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 2: he wants to face Poorier. He wants it to be

1677
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: a one to fifty five so he can prove that

1678
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 2: he can beat Dustin at that weight class.

1679
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 3: I think that's really the only barrier of entry to

1680
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 3: your idea.

1681
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: But otherwise, I think that if you're looking at him

1682
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: wanting to be a champion again, I think that there's

1683
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot more incentive for him to try

1684
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: to become a three division champion and go out to

1685
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 2: the one hundred and seventy pound title. And in order

1686
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: to do that, I think he's gonna have to beat

1687
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: some guys at one seventy or just go jump right

1688
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: in against Kamara Uzman, like we talked about earlier. If

1689
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: that's a possibility, so I think he might be on

1690
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: something there. But again, I do think that the one

1691
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 2: barrier of entry would be the Poorier rematch.

1692
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, I could It'll be interesting. I mean that

1693
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: that is a fight. UFC would certainly make a fourth

1694
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: fight if Poorier's champion at lightweight, obviously it would be

1695
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: they could make it even faster. But even with Poorier

1696
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: talking going the Nate Diaz level, I could see Connor

1697
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: coming back against Usman, and I could see him going

1698
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: down the road after a loss of Hey, I'll fight Jorge,

1699
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll fight freakin' uh Mike Perry, right. I mean, you

1700
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: never know which way that guy's gonna go before he's

1701
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: boxing again and selling more whiskey and on the way out.

1702
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: All right. Number two on calling me crazy. Look, we

1703
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: made some jokes about Canadian MMA, but Ariel Hawane. It

1704
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: did make big headlines this week leaving ESPN, coming back

1705
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: to Vox in the m MA hour and all that stuff.

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: But in my opinion of what was left behind of

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01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: my former company there at ESPN called it crazy eron,

1708
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: but I think that company dropped the ball huge not

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: combining Ariel's former dance partners Daniel Cormier and chel Son

1710
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: and and putting them together in the aftermath of Ariel's exit.

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: Say what you will about Ariel, he draws a big number.

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: He had had a rapport in chemistry with both guys.

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01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's an attractive sexiness in d

1714
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: C and RC or Chail in Sedano. I don't think

1715
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: mainstream fans are going to care, and I certainly don't

1716
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: think casual fans want something that's aimed at mainstream fans

1717
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: call me crazy, but you wanted fun sound bites and

1718
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: arguments and inside information. DC and Chail seem like a

1719
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 1: no brainer.

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01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm not calling you crazy on this one. I don't

1721
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 3: know why they didn't do that.

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if schedules just didn't permit, but I'm

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: willing to let the other shows breathe a little bit.

1724
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: You know, Jorge Sadano is a really solid broadcaster. I

1725
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: think him and Jail will bring the best out of

1726
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: each other. And Arcy and DC seemed to have a

1727
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: good chemistry.

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01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 3: But I think you're right. I think that the juicier

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01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 3: fit would have been those two.

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01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. ESPN obviously has reasons

1731
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: to want to get casual fans as involved as possible

1732
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: financial reasons, so maybe that's part of it. I don't know.

1733
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: Did DC and Chaill not want to work to I

1734
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: don't know, but I think it would have been fun

1735
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: to try out all right number three after UFC two

1736
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: sixty eight in November, which is aimed to be at

1737
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden in New York City, hopefully we can

1738
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: see that. Call me crazy, ab, I'm not sure the

1739
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: UFC will promote another pay per view card anywhere but

1740
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: Fight Island, Las Vegas, Houston, and Jacksonville until twenty twenty three.

1741
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna cut you crazy on that one.

1742
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 2: I think that they're gonna try to find as many

1743
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: different places where they can hold events. You've got so

1744
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 2: many different concert tours scheduled for the rest of this

1745
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: year next year. It seems like the arenas are starting

1746
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: to open up a little bit more, even though this

1747
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: pandemic continues to roll on and the numbers continue to

1748
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: get racked up.

1749
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy if you look.

1750
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: At the numbers from two months ago, from like June

1751
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: on the same date as today, and you compare it

1752
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: with like you know, in Florida and Texas, at how

1753
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: many it's amazing, how many more cases, and even in Israel,

1754
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 2: like you look at how many more cases there are

1755
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: in the span of two months.

1756
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: It's actually very alarming.

1757
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: But at the same time, these arenas are continuing to open,

1758
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 2: these tours are continuing to roll on. I think we're

1759
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: going to see the UFC in different spots.

1760
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, Abe. We've heard Dana say, oh that's fine,

1761
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll stay in the Apex or go to

1762
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: Fight Island. I don't need this, or what about hold?

1763
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: What about Sunrise, Florida? What about Tampa Bay?

1764
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: What about tai Chi Palace?

1765
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: One other thing? We all love the tai Chi Palace,

1766
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna go do tai Chi, that's where

1767
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: you go. All right.

1768
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: Well, if you think I'm crazy for saying that, then

1769
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: you know we did see. In fact, Luke Thomas texted

1770
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: to me that the Las Vegas Raiders are now requiring

1771
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: every fan to enter the Death Star to have uh,

1772
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, immunization, to be vaccinated. So do you think

1773
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: some of that could force UFC's hand into going to

1774
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 1: more select areas where where they can kind of control

1775
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: the narrative in terms of that, No.

1776
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that they care that much about that.

1777
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 2: I think that they're gonna just go where, you know,

1778
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: whatever arenas are gonna hold these events. I don't think

1779
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: that they you know, I don't know they know why

1780
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: come out and said we're not going to go to

1781
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 2: any buildings that require masks of our patrons or that

1782
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 2: require vaccinations. He's never really come out and said that.

1783
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: He just said, you're gonna open up and have full capacity. Uh,

1784
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna have full I mean, if they're gonna go

1785
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: to MSG, there's gonna be a mask man date in place.

1786
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: In fact, Kimobile Arena is probably gonna have a mask

1787
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 2: mandate in place that they do events there going forward,

1788
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: at least at the current time, that's what it would be.

1789
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: So I don't think that that's gonna be a barrier

1790
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: of entry for the UFC.

1791
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm taking the stereotypical right wing degressive ultra mma

1792
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: fighter stance and adopting that on the whole organization and

1793
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: in the attitude towards fans, probably incorrectly. So we'll see

1794
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 1: what happens moving forward, all right, page Van Sana BKFC fame,

1795
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: although not in the wind column, put out a shared

1796
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: video online that that basically said she revealed mental health

1797
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: struggles in the aftermath of her recent bare knuckle loss

1798
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: to Rachel Ostovich and said, quote, everyone expects me to lose,

1799
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: and everyone expects me to fail. And while I cert

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: end quote, while I certainly have you know, appreciation for

1801
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: her struggle and and don't wish negative online response against

1802
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: her call me crazy erin but PVC is right, more

1803
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: people are openly charing for her to fail. Then succeed,

1804
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 1: and I think it's been that way for a long time.

1805
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: I'm am I wrong.

1806
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of sad.

1807
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's emblematic of you know,

1808
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: her having a presence on Instagram and posting pictures. For

1809
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: whatever reason, people don't want her to do that and

1810
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: succeed consecutively, like simultaneously. That doesn't make any sense to me. Listen,

1811
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 2: she works hard, she's at a good camp at att Now,

1812
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: her husband's doing great in Bellatorre's gonna get the next

1813
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: title shot in the middleweight division. I don't know why

1814
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: people are rooting for her to fail. I don't know

1815
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: if people could explain why, it doesn't make any sense

1816
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: to me, I'd be happy to see her win.

1817
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: I'd be you know.

1818
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: I think that she's competing. I think that she should

1819
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: be lauded for going to bare knuckle coming out of

1820
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: the UFC. I think giving her a lot of money

1821
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 2: she wants to win. She's bringing good attention to the events,

1822
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 2: win or lose. So yeah, listen, I understand why she's

1823
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: struggling with her mental health. You have all these people

1824
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: piling on, You're putting all of these months into preparation

1825
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: for this one big event and you end up losing.

1826
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: It must be really difficult just to do that in general,

1827
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: to put all that much commitment into something and then

1828
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 2: you go online whatever, you go on social media, and

1829
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 2: people are just piling on and calling you a loser.

1830
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: These aren't people that are putting in the same preparation

1831
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: in the gym. These aren't the same people that are

1832
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: putting their lives on the line, or putting, you know,

1833
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: their reputations on the line, putting their health on the line,

1834
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: going into a ring or a cage and doing the

1835
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: same thing. It must be very hurtful for her, and

1836
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: I understand why she's going through those kind of mental

1837
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: health struggles. I think, even as somebody who covers the sport,

1838
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: there's so much negativity online and you have to wade

1839
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: through it all and filter through it all and ignore

1840
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: it all. And her following is probably twenty thirty times

1841
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: what mine is, maybe even more.

1842
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 3: Probably yeah, probably even more.

1843
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: And she puts herself out there on TV in front

1844
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,959
Speaker 2: of a large audience, in front of a live audience,

1845
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: and to lose like that after putting in so much

1846
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: hard work and then have people pile on you, it

1847
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: can't be good for your mental health. You know, I'm

1848
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: certain health person in the.

1849
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: World, and I'm certainly not saying the online response is

1850
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: healthier that it's right. I just think it's at this

1851
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: point it's sort of like, yeah, yeah, I mean, anytime

1852
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: you get somebody who has options elsewhere and is actively

1853
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: doing that, meaning dancing with the stars, modeling, acting, whatever,

1854
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: people are gonna question your commitment and sort of you

1855
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: know that they want to see you live or die

1856
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: full time fight or all that. So you're gonna get haters.

1857
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: Anytime you're a good looking person, to be honest, like,

1858
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a certain amount of people cheering against

1859
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: you and thinking you're not You're don't have the substance.

1860
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying it's sort of like that's the

1861
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: default way it is. You just got to kind of

1862
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: turn off the mensions. I'm not saying it's easy. She

1863
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: doesn't need a win though, and even BKFC, you know,

1864
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: President David Feldman said, yeah, the next one, it's it's

1865
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of like win or what are we doing moving forward?

1866
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I agree with that, and that's fine,

1867
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 2: and that's how it is in combat sports. But my

1868
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: advice to Paige vans Ant is just keep do you do.

1869
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 2: You live your best life. Living well is the best revenge,

1870
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: and just keep doing what makes you happy. If fighting

1871
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: is not gonna make you happy, because people are gonna

1872
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: pile on, and you can do other things, and you

1873
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: want to do other things by all means.

1874
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 3: But if you want to keep doing this as as.

1875
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: A living and you want to keep training and working

1876
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: hard and proving people wrong, and that's that means something

1877
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: to you, and keep doing that. But there's always gonna

1878
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: be people that are negative. It's so much easier to

1879
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: be negative online that it is to be positive. The

1880
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: way that I always look at it is when you

1881
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: put something out there, look at the likes. Don't worry

1882
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 2: about the responses, don't worry about the negativity. If you

1883
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: think of every like as somebody responding and saying I

1884
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,879
Speaker 2: like what you just wrote, you'll be a lot happier.

1885
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: And let's squash all beefs all right, Luke, embrace Jouanna me,

1886
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: john S Nash, You're my brother in this world, all right?

1887
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: I love you. Okay, let's get together some time and

1888
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: talk about backroom bonuses. Beautiful mind all right, thank you.

1889
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: I'll call off that Donk Damien, our guy from two nine,

1890
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: that wild and crazy guy with the MK tech. Leave

1891
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: John nashalone, all right, Let's end that beef. Okay, keep

1892
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: it going. Number five on Call Me Crazy. Look, I

1893
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: come up with crazy ideas when I sit alone at

1894
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: night and stare at the ceiling and fall asleep. How

1895
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: about this idea? An MMA as unlikely as it could

1896
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: be an MMA promotional merger between PFL and Bellator would

1897
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: create the biggest competition UFC has faced since the days

1898
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,879
Speaker 1: call me crazy. You look at the combination of rosters

1899
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: coming together, the TV connections, the innovations, the seasonal format

1900
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: from PFL, the celebrity investors. I'm wondering if if they

1901
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: join forces, not that anyone's calling for that, could that

1902
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: be an even bigger opportunity at making headway than even

1903
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: Strikeforce had with the video game and the Grand Prix

1904
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: and all that just less than a decade ago.

1905
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: Well are we pooling resources as well, because then I'm buying.

1906
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna have a lot of clout behind this,

1907
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: and I think that there are such good fighters on

1908
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 2: both rosters that if you combine them, it could only

1909
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: you know, what is it?

1910
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 3: All ties, all tides raised, all boats.

1911
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mess that quo rising tides, Yeah yeah, rising

1912
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 2: to yes, rising tides. But I think that that's going

1913
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Speaker 2: to be that would be a good competition for the UFC.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I have a great competition. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you look at the numbers for

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Speaker 2: both of those even combined, if they they'd come close.

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Speaker 2: But roster they formed.

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Speaker 1: A super league because we do this in in pro

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Speaker 1: wrestling circles where it's like, okay, WWE is the end all,

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Speaker 1: you know, UFC equivalent. But what if this guy and

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Speaker 1: this guy just you know, New Japan and AEW, could

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Speaker 1: they beat them in the ratings or put out better

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Speaker 1: you know, could could have PFL Bellator, you know, mythological merger.

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Speaker 1: Could that have the depth of roster where you're like

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Speaker 1: they could put together cards that that like I have

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Speaker 1: to see, Man.

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Speaker 2: It might, but again I think it's the brand. I

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Speaker 2: think that the brand is what would rule over uh

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Speaker 2: you know that that that battle, so to speak. I

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Speaker 2: think the UFC brand is just so big globally that

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Speaker 2: even if you had such great talent on this roster,

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Speaker 2: by combining those two. I just don't know if the

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Speaker 2: awareness would be there. There are a lot of people

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Speaker 2: that only know what the UFC is. They don't know

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Speaker 2: they think that the UFC is MMA uh, And I

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Speaker 2: think that that is something that would have to get

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Speaker 2: broken in order for people to really buy into having

1938
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Speaker 2: a secondary league. I mean, hey, if if you're devoting

1939
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Speaker 2: five to six hours of your week every week to

1940
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Speaker 2: the UFC, are you gonna be willing to vote another

1941
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Speaker 2: five to six hours of your week to another promotion?

1942
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Speaker 2: We are because we cover the sport, that's our job.

1943
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: But you know, is Joe Public gonna be willing to

1944
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Speaker 2: spend twelve hours of their week watching mixed martial arts?

1945
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: I just don't know if the appetite for that much

1946
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Speaker 2: mixed martial arts on a weekly basis would be there,

1947
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Speaker 2: But I do, and I guess the other question is

1948
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Speaker 2: what are the dream matchups? Like if you're gonna if

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Speaker 2: you're gonna memrge those two rosters, other than like Cyborg

1950
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Speaker 2: and Kayla Harrison, what are the matchups that really have

1951
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Speaker 2: you salivating? I think you're gonna have a lot of

1952
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: good matchups, but I don't think that there's that much

1953
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Speaker 2: of a hunger for.

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Speaker 1: Any right, We'll leave that idea on the ceiling. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So so far I've given you five ideas you've called

1956
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Speaker 1: too crazy. So I'm I'm I'm winning right now, we

1957
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Speaker 1: got two to go here. Number six. Look, with the

1958
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Speaker 1: obvious exception of dipping French fries and mayonnaise. Bro call

1959
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: me crazy, but there's actually no such thing as quote

1960
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Speaker 1: Canadian food. There just isn't.

1961
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Speaker 3: Now we got poutine. Poutine is Canadian food. We got

1962
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 3: fries with gravy and cheese.

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Speaker 2: That's really all you need.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm a world traveler, if

1965
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to Epcot and I'm going to the Canadian section,

1966
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Speaker 1: let me try, let me try your cuisine. They're like,

1967
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: here's some ham. We call it bacon. There's no there's

1968
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: no Canadian food. Bro Right, and these are my people.

1969
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm coming as Potina.

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Speaker 2: I will defend Poutina in this Poutinas has already come

1971
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Speaker 2: to Las Vegas. There are putineries in Florida.

1972
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: Putin putineries sound like somewhere, uh, somewhere Robert Kraft would

1973
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Speaker 1: go if they closed down his favorite Uh yeah, all right, you.

1974
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Speaker 3: Know, if he's a fan of fries and gravy, and

1975
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Speaker 3: then that's where he should go.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll leave that where it is, all right, Yeah,

1977
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Speaker 1: he'll get me you damn right. He's a fan of

1978
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: that gravy. Yeah, all right, Okay, Well let's see that's

1979
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Speaker 1: that one's not crazy. I got one more. Here we go,

1980
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Speaker 1: final one of all active UFC fighters, the one fighter

1981
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: who has the best chance right now at joining what

1982
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: I call my go upper room table, the people that

1983
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: have a case for the greatest of all time currently

1984
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: right now, that's a six member table that includes gsp Anderson,

1985
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Sova Jones, Amanda Nunis, Mighty Mouse Johnson, and Fador. Of

1986
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: all active UFC fighters at the moment who have the

1987
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: best chance of closing their career out at that table,

1988
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go is reel out of Sonia call me crazy?

1989
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Speaker 3: Did you mention Kabib in that mix?

1990
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Speaker 1: Oh crap, I left him off. Yes, well he's not active,

1991
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: but he should have been in that mix. Let me

1992
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: get that seventh chair ready and put Habib roight.

1993
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Speaker 2: Crazy.

1994
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Speaker 3: You don't have Habib on the list?

1995
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was crazy right there, But now that we've

1996
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: added Kbib, do you believe of active UFC fighters that is,

1997
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: is angling toward having the best chance or are you

1998
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: more of a Pourier Usman type of guy.

1999
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question because Uzman only has one loss,

2000
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: Israel only has one loss, and that came up a division.

2001
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 3: I mean you might be right on this one. I

2002
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 3: don't know. It's interesting.

2003
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: And one guy that I think is being wholly ignored in.

2004
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 3: This conversation is Max Holloway.

2005
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: Like Max Holloway still what in his twenties and look

2006
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: at his resume of who he's beaten so far. Like

2007
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I think that if you look at the all time grades,

2008
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: you give Max Holloway another seven eight years in the

2009
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: sport and he can keep racking up numbers. Max Holloway

2010
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 2: might earn a spot at that table as well. I

2011
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: still think that he has an argument. You know, how

2012
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: do he beat in Porier on that that night in Atlanta?

2013
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: I think that you could certainly make more of a case.

2014
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: But I don't want to write Holloway off you.

2015
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to write him off. I'm not gonna

2016
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Speaker 1: write him off because he's so young, and he's coming

2017
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: off of performance in which you can argue you look

2018
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: the best. He's ever has. But you made a good

2019
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: point on the Poria thing. You kind of have to

2020
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: do something extra special to crash that party. I feel

2021
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: like Holloway, who's great, is going to end up in

2022
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: that next tier of Josialdo and Randy Cotuur and those

2023
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: other guys. And I know people hate when I don't

2024
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: put all though at the big table, but it kind

2025
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: of is what it is. I feel like, right now,

2026
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: out of time, you's showing me that he could be

2027
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: that dude.

2028
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: I hey to like if might be that guy if

2029
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: Francis ends up knocking out Cyril Gun and knocking out

2030
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: all these guys in the future. I mean, you have

2031
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: to look at him too. Yeah, he's he's got the potential.

2032
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Speaker 2: But I think if you if you're gonna say who

2033
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: has the most potential, yeah, it's it's either Israel or Usman.

2034
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Speaker 2: I think that it's kind of a toss up at

2035
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: this point between those two.

2036
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: What about what about if Valentina beats Amanda in a

2037
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: proposed third fight?

2038
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: What about I mean maybe yeah, I mean I think

2039
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 2: you can make that case. Uh that would be it

2040
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: should be essentially moving up a division and becoming a

2041
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: champion in another division. So I think that that. I

2042
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: think if anybody beats noon as you can, they get

2043
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: into that conversation, they get into the chat room, so

2044
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: to speak. But uh, yeah, I'd say Usman Israel, those

2045
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: are probably the two that have the biggest chance. I mean,

2046
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Usman hasn't been losing rounds, right, I mean at least Israel.

2047
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: You you haven't losing those.

2048
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: Rounds the gaslam. He's lost rounds in the past. So

2049
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: kind of a toss up between those two, I would say,

2050
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: I just.

2051
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Think, you know, I guess I want to say if

2052
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: you if you said, well, what's the difference between Adasanya

2053
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: and Usman, Well, I think Otasanya's got a got more

2054
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: high moments so far on the resume, I mean, got

2055
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: one punch knocked out Robert Whitaker more or less. Uh,

2056
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: But I think he also has the brighter potential to

2057
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: one day move up and have a title on the

2058
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: second division. No, you can argue that and say, hey,

2059
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: who's pond has been talking about maybe one day going

2060
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: up to middleweight and what could stop him with that wrestling?

2061
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, we'd have to see it though, But I think,

2062
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, although we've slowed down the talk of Adasania,

2063
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: like becoming a three division champion and going up to

2064
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: heavyweight and looking the same because of how blaohowits you know,

2065
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: used his size and smarts to to to hang on there.

2066
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I do think the ceilings broughder, but we'll find it out.

2067
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Are you in on Ariel's new committed pronunciation of I

2068
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: can't even try it, but.

2069
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: I have been. Yeah, I've been saying it that way

2070
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 2: for no, no, not even a destiny.

2071
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: He's going no, he's going weirder, and he's going like

2072
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: extra curvations and stressing.

2073
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 3: Actually put.

2074
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: But I think it's see I maybe I'm just ignorant.

2075
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 3: Israel would have to verify.

2076
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: That on Maybe I'm just ignorant and lazy. And once

2077
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: I get used to one name, you know, it takes

2078
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: me long enough to learn the first name. You know,

2079
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm probably just an ignorant American. I'm sorry, Aaron.

2080
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Hey shout out to Israel for sorry to Ariel for

2081
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: at least bringing that into the public perception that it

2082
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: was being pronounced wrong this whole time, and that that

2083
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: is the way.

2084
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Brett sorry.

2085
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: I tried to do the same thing with Jack Ermundson,

2086
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,919
Speaker 2: which is how you pronounce his last name, Jack Ermundson.

2087
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.

2088
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: It didn't pick him now.

2089
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: I saw Brett trying that a destina for a while.

2090
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Then he pulled back, Brett still calling the guy kobeb Hey,

2091
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: Brett the case silent bro Okay, can you get on

2092
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: board with that? By the way, you want to call

2093
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: Brett the best looking journalist in all of them? And

2094
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: make can we.

2095
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 2: Called she called him that after she did an interview

2096
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 2: with me, immediately after she did an interview with me,

2097
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: and that's sore spot.

2098
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: Okay, then maybe you should be the one feuding with her,

2099
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: not Luke. All right, let's keep it going.

2100
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: I go, hey, Joanna, I'm right here, she goes. She goes,

2101
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 2: I get to speak to the most handsome journalist. It

2102
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 2: was right after I go, Johan, come on right here.

2103
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yo, Wanna. But that's fine too. Maybe that's

2104
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's why. All right, Well, let's keep it going.

2105
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed. Call me crazy. I got one more

2106
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: inventive segment for a B and I to tickle right now,

2107
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: the fancy of and this one's going to get nerdy

2108
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: as you can see behind the great Aaron Bronsteader and

2109
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: his uh mississaugua home there and uh near Toronto out

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01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: of Hamilton, something like that, yeah, over his shoulder. I

2111
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: always thought those were like books or comic books or

2112
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: something nerdy. You're my kind of nerdy. You got Vinyl

2113
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: four days brother, you sell it, you buy it, you

2114
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Speaker 1: savor it, you love it. You've counseled me in certain directions,

2115
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: including my changeover into and transition into jazz fusion. I'm

2116
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: even doing some world music lately. I mean, I'm I'm

2117
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, Ginger Baker's taking you know, Heroin took Ginger

2118
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Baker into some weird travels. He's taken me to those

2119
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: two just you know, no Needles though involved in this,

2120
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: but uh, I wanted to create a fun, loving segment

2121
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,759
Speaker 1: in which you and I get all kinds of nerdy.

2122
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: So I've decided to call it Final Intercourse. Look right,

2123
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: look at that Look at that graph graphics on the

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01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: daily on like two hours notice, we will splin the

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Speaker 1: spin the black circle. This segment is fun in games

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01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: in which AB and I are just gonna share recent

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01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: records that we're getting down on in our in our

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01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 1: in our man times alone in the man cave, so

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01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: ab you want to you want to go first, or

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01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: you're the guest.

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01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 3: Sure, well listen.

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Speaker 2: Summer is a summer usually for me, gets split into

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Speaker 2: like four genres. Primarily you got hip hop, You've got

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Speaker 2: a little bit of world music, You've got some jazz,

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01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 2: jazz funk, and then you got like punk and like

2136
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, indie rock punk, that kind of thing. Those

2137
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 2: are like my four genres that really get me going

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01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 2: in the summer, as well as some stone of rocks.

2139
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Some stone of rock will get me get me up

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01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,839
Speaker 2: in the summer. But number one, we got Vince Staple.

2141
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Speaker 2: Vin Staples, you got Big Fish Theory.

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Speaker 3: Big Fish.

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Speaker 2: Big Fish Theory is one of my favorite hip hop

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01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 2: albums for like the last ten years. It's a lot

2145
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 2: of fun. That's actually a nice picture disc. But Vince

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01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: Staples is one of the best rappers today. I stand

2147
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: by it. So is the everything he's done. He put

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01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: on an album this year. It's not not his best work,

2149
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: but Bigfish Theory is my favorite Vince Staples output, and

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01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 2: I've been really playing that a lot this summer.

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01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: People may not know, they may look at you and

2152
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: think classical, but no, this guy gets down in jazz

2153
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: and you do get down and not only hip hop

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01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: but new hip hop, which you know, whenever I talk

2155
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: hip hop, it's gotta be commercial, suburban nineties hip hop.

2156
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: So like one biscuits, stop that, stop that, stop that

2157
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: right now? Please? What would you how would you describe

2158
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 1: is this this kind of rap that that hip hop

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01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: that that Luke would listen to? How would you describe

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01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: to me as a as a Vince Staples ignorant newbie?

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01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: Well, I know that he's like more into Jedi mind

2162
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: tricks than he pass that kind of thing. Well, the

2163
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: thing about Vince Staples is like he's kind of like

2164
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: Miles in the fact that he likes to make every

2165
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: album sound different. So like you know, his his first

2166
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: EP had a very different sound from his first album,

2167
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: which was Summertime I Was Six.

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01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 3: Summertime I Was Six is like an eighty minute album.

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01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 2: That's just like a bunch of different stories about the

2170
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: summer of those and his upbringing. In Big Fish Theory

2171
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 2: is more of a dancy type album, a lot more beats,

2172
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 2: a lot more electronic influence, and I like that part

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01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 2: of that particular album. I just think it's one of

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 2: the more innovative albums and hip hop that we've heard

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01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 2: in the last ten years. So you might like Ben

2176
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 2: Staples good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, you got me into this music

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01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: app title t I d al for the highest quality,

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01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: and I've gotten some others into it as well, And

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01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm constantly sharing recommendations of songs and albums, which is

2181
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: really the glory of this segment to expose people in

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01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: new music. So I will add that on the old

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01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: title app and check it out and get back to you.

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01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 1: You should see how nerdy our dms get no stick picks.

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01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: All right, I'll start off with mine on Vinyl Intercourse.

2186
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: I've told you over the DMS that I'm into this.

2187
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people know I took a hard turn

2188
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: into all things Cream, the super group in the late

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01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: sixties of psychedelic blues rock, all that good stuff, realizing

2190
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: that no, this is one of the greatest bands of

2191
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: all time, beyond the radio hits and a big reason

2192
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: in fact, in that power trio, the one man you

2193
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: can argue who was the the most valuable was bassist

2194
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: Jack Bruce, not only one of the greatest basis of

2195
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: all time, creating that very heavy sound for Cream, which

2196
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: kind of became a template for heavy metal moving forward.

2197
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: In some ways. He was also the front man for

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01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: as long as the record company would allow, as they

2199
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: were trying to pull a not so ready Eric Clapton

2200
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: to the forefront. One thing about Jack Bruce's base playing

2201
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: in Cream though, is it was just very heavy. But

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01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: it served as a foundation for Clapton as God to

2203
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: go out there and solo over. But after Cream broke

2204
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: up after just four albums, and in the midst of

2205
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: this breakup, Jack Bruce went solo. And here's what's interesting,

2206
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: You could argue that of that trio, Clapton went on

2207
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: to huge fame, Ginger Baker went onto Blind Faith, with

2208
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Clapton went on to other areas of success. Jack Bruce

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Speaker 1: has had the least amount of public success, but his

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01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine solo debut, titled Songs for a Tailor

2211
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: is I believe one of the hidden gems here that

2212
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: has fallen through the cracks in rock history. So even

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01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: though he had that heavy sound with Cream, Songs for

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01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: a Tailor sees a Jack Bruce that's basically playing lee

2215
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: bass as if it's guitar and constantly soloing oversilent songs.

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: It's the same songwriter and Pete Brown who's given the

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01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: weird psychedelic lyrics to the Prime Cream albums, including Israeli Gears,

2218
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: and he's sort of taking you on some of those.

2219
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: Hey man, I should be on acid? Why I listen

2220
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: to this journeys? But the song structures are anything but psychedelic.

2221
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: They're all written by Jack Bruce. And here's what's interesting.

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01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: It's probably one of the earliest and finest mixes of

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01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: what became progressive rock, but mixed with a very jazz

2224
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 1: sounding foundation there. And certainly Jack Bruce has a folk background,

2225
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: a classical background, and you would need that classical background

2226
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: to really get prog off the ground. But I've been

2227
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 1: vibing for this one for months and it's funny that

2228
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: no one talks about it. It doesn't have a ton

2229
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,879
Speaker 1: of radio hits, but it's got some eclectic sounding grooves

2230
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: with a great backing band which come from the rhythm

2231
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: section of a band called Coliseum, which had some great

2232
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 1: success in the fusion space. But this is a jazz

2233
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: pro rock sort of tore the force that I think

2234
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: is a very hidden gem under the radar. If you

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01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: like the cream sound, but you like sort of other areas,

2236
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: including fusion and such. This is a very good exploration

2237
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 1: that's worth your time.

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01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you told me about this one.

2239
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: I added it to my title list as well, so

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Speaker 2: I still have yet to listen to it. But it's

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01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 2: interesting when you hear these kind of super groups branch

2242
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 2: out and you kind of get these results that you

2243
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,839
Speaker 2: weren't really that aware of, Like, for example, the Beatles.

2244
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, well, we'll dismiss much of Ringo's solo out put,

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01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 2: but I think that George Harrison, I think his solo

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01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 2: I would put blows Lennon and McCartney's out of the water.

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01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: I think, like just all Things must Pass, I think

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01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 2: is as good as any Beatles album in my opinions.

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01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: You no, it might be that might be the best

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01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 1: post Beatles solo album with with with respective two hands down.

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01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 1: But the problem is in as much I love Georgie's

2252
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: my favorite Beatle and I have followed his solo career,

2253
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: the other the other albums are not as consistently strong

2254
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: as they'll say.

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01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Lenin's right, Yeah, I mean I've got my mindset on

2256
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 2: you be see, we've seen where Harrison went down some

2257
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: Dark Roads later on in his career.

2258
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: I like that comeback album, right, that's not a bad.

2259
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 3: Way, but we do.

2260
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 2: I think that the albums that were, like, you know,

2261
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: immediately following All Things Past were still very good. I

2262
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 2: still think that he had some good output. McCartney's very

2263
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: hit or miss with his solo output. I think Ram

2264
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 2: is an amazing album that kind of gets overlooked sometimes.

2265
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that All Things Must Pass is

2266
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,560
Speaker 2: just a legendary work that's as good as anything the

2267
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: Beatles have ever put out, sometimes even better.

2268
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: But it's wild that that, you know, nobody talks about

2269
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Jack Bruce and he did fall through the cracks because

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01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: he didn't, let's say, have that solo success from the

2271
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,520
Speaker 1: standpoint of hits. But the bass playing is is insane.

2272
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: And in Songs for Taylor was written about the late

2273
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: cream stylist, costume maker Taylor whatever you want to call

2274
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: her there who Jack Bruce secretly had a love affair with,

2275
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: and she wrote him a letter as he was heading

2276
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: into the studio and he received the letter two days

2277
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: after she died, and the letter said, sing me some

2278
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: sweet hymns. So he wrote this album and dedicated it

2279
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: to her. Her, so good shit, right there. We probably

2280
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: all the.

2281
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 2: Kind of you see bassist kind of go and do

2282
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 2: their own solo thing. Also, so kudos to Jack Brews.

2283
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Good good shit. What else you got for me here?

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01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: Maybe? All right? You're talking about getting into world music

2285
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 2: this summer. One of my favorite genres of the summer,

2286
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 2: of any summer is Tropicalia from Brazil kaitano Veloso.

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01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 3: This is his self titled.

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01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: Album from nineteen sixty eighty has several self titled albums,

2289
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: but this is the one from nineteen sixty eight. Just

2290
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 2: a psychedelic masterpiece and really the first one of the

2291
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 2: first pioneering albums of the Tropicalia movement from nineteen sixties Brazil.

2292
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 2: That was a very strong political movement against their government

2293
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 2: and the oppression of their government. And you look at

2294
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 2: them acts like Gilberto gill Os Mutantes or muchansh if

2295
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 2: you want to say it in the Portugueze way.

2296
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 3: But Kaitano Veloso is an absolute star.

2297
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 2: He's still touring to this day in his late seventies,

2298
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: and I just love that particular album. I love a

2299
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: lot of his early output, but that album, to me,

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01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:02,600
Speaker 2: you can put that on anytime in the summer and

2301
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm groove into it. I love it all right.

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Speaker 1: You put you went down a niche road here, and

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01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm happy you did. I'm going to add this one

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01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: as well, because I've never heard of him, although this

2305
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: seems to fit where I'm at now. Are you into

2306
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Fela Kuti? I recently got into him through Ginger Baker.

2307
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,799
Speaker 1: He's from Africa. He's basically like, of course, Bob Marley

2308
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: esque with the political connections to the music, but more jazzy.

2309
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: And I've been blown away. And I also just bought

2310
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: Harry Belafonte's Calypso album, which is obviously a known classic.

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01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: Is this anywhere in that realm where you're saying this

2312
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: is much more psychedelic?

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01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 2: This is a little bit more psychedelic because from like,

2314
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 2: it's from late sixties where psychedelic, the psychedelic movement was

2315
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 2: really taking over America and then it kind of trickled

2316
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 2: over to Brazil and they put out some really great

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01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 2: music at that time, with a lot of interesting experimentation

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01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:49,560
Speaker 2: with the instruments.

2319
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 3: I know it was also contest.

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01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 2: We're hitting like barrels and all kinds of whatever they

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01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 2: could find to make a lot of really interesting psychedelic music,

2322
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 2: so it's a little bit different. I think yours is

2323
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 2: more like kind of the afrobeat. And I actually bought

2324
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: a Fella Felakuti album today, so it's a very well

2325
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 2: all right to.

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01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Bring up sky ab Alright, all right, let's keep it

2327
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 1: going here. Here's what I got. So a big part

2328
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: of my vinyl exploration in this pandemic has not only

2329
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: been digging into parts of the nineteen seventies. I just

2330
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: wasn't aware of whether you're talking about fusion or I

2331
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 1: never went down the progue roads, but just finding out

2332
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: that classic rock radio essentially lied to us often playing

2333
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 1: or overplaying the one or two hits we would know

2334
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: of a band, forcing you to gain an idea of

2335
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 1: what that band could be in sort of stereotyping them

2336
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: without really knowing. I'm going to give you a band

2337
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: right there that I've been harpening to you over dms,

2338
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: the freakin' Marshall Tucker Band. If you hear the Marshall

2339
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: Tucker Band, you're like, Okay, I know they are two hits, right,

2340
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: can't you see? And heard it in a love song? Yeah,

2341
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: that's like southern rock. That's like country rock. It's like

2342
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: poor Man's Alman Brothers, right, not really, kind of but

2343
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: not really. I have been overwhelmingly happy to find out

2344
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: that not only are all the Marshall Talks album is

2345
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: amazingly cheap online, but that this band is absolutely badass,

2346
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: with Toy Caldwell on lead guitar as the main songwriter,

2347
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: sings a bit but mostly just playing recklessly fast and

2348
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: out of control boogie country rock into other genres. What's

2349
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: the key of what makes Marshall Tucker worth your time.

2350
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: It's the fact that ambitiously Caldwell basically said, I'm gonna

2351
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 1: take a country rock foundation, but take blues, take jazz,

2352
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: take almost the early onset of jam band before that

2353
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: was even a thing, and mix it up into a

2354
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: soup that actually works. And the prime album of their

2355
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,759
Speaker 1: early run is their third one, nineteen seventy four's Where

2356
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 1: We All Belong. It doesn't have the radio hits of

2357
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: some of their other albums, but it's their most solid

2358
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: one top to bottom, and key in point is that

2359
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 1: it's a double LP, the first one being in the Studio,

2360
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: which has the leadoff track This Old Cowboy, which is

2361
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: one of the rare ones that Toy sings lead on

2362
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 1: and is just impressive and amazing. But more importantly has

2363
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: the live album on the second disc or the second LP,

2364
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 1: and that shows you what this band can do live. Yes,

2365
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: they utilized a flute player, Jerry Eubanks, who can also

2366
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: play other stringed instruments. They had Charlie Daniels on fiddle,

2367
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: and what this band can do live would blow away

2368
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: what you would believe they are or what they can do.

2369
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it is jam bandy, it's jazzy, it sometimes

2370
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,879
Speaker 1: can be heavy. Toy Caldwell is one of those forgotten

2371
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 1: guitar as, very similar to like Terry cath with the

2372
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: Ban Chicago, where nobody's talking about Toy Caldwell at all,

2373
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: and you go back and here's the unique thing about him, Aaron.

2374
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: Remember when we like runt a video game or buy

2375
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: a video game as a kid, You'd never read the instructions.

2376
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 1: You just grab the game, plug in the and be like, dude,

2377
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna learn on the fly. This feels like

2378
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: a guitarist who like learn the basics and then was

2379
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: like f and I'm just gonna go. And he's sloppy

2380
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: and he's aggressive and he's loud, and he goes after it.

2381
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: But that sloppiness is the endearing element to the chances

2382
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: he takes and the places he goes. He has a

2383
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: unique style all his own. Marshall Tuckerband freaking rules, and

2384
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: nobody wants to talk about it. In live, they're even

2385
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,879
Speaker 1: more incredible. So if you want to take the plunge

2386
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: where we all belong as that great mix of the blues,

2387
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: the country, the jazz and really gives you a full

2388
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 1: flavor of where this band is.

2389
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right.

2390
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 2: Radio did lie to us, like they played us all

2391
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 2: these singles, a lot of it is cheese, And then

2392
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 2: you go when you listen to the actual full album

2393
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 2: and it's like, Wow, these guys have something. And it's

2394
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 2: funny when you look at collecting records in general, like

2395
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 2: there's this kind of misnomer that like the expensive records

2396
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 2: are the ones you want to get. You could build

2397
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 2: like an awesome starter kit for people for like eighty bucks.

2398
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 2: You can get them like fifteen great records to start there,

2399
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 2: like fifteen classic classic records that they can start their

2400
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 2: collection with. And you always find these kind of hidden

2401
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 2: gems in the bins at records stores there are four

2402
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 2: or five bucks, and there are so many good ones.

2403
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean I turned you on to the Heavy Weather

2404
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 2: by the weather Aboard. You can find that record like

2405
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 2: six bucks, and it's an amazing record. So it's kind

2406
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 2: of cool that if you want to explore you know

2407
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 2: a lot of these kind of older bands, A lot

2408
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: of these records got reproduced in such a degree that

2409
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 2: you can find them for Elvis cost that way you

2410
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 2: mentioned off the top of the show is another one

2411
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 2: of those artists where you can find his records for

2412
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 2: seven eight bucks.

2413
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 1: So ab do you get do you get into that

2414
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 1: sort of idea of I guess what they what some

2415
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,440
Speaker 1: people call boogie rock, where it's you know, it's country influenced,

2416
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: but they can I mean, you know the best part

2417
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: about Marshall Tucker is they take some of these songs

2418
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: and jam them out for no reason eight nine minutes

2419
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,639
Speaker 1: and it doesn't wear you out. I mean, it's good,

2420
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: it's great musicianship, and they go a lot of different

2421
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: places with it.

2422
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw a lot of that in the seventies,

2423
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: and again those are the ones you don't hear on

2424
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 2: radio because they're too long. They're not they're not the

2425
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 2: what is it three minutes and nineteen seconds or whatever

2426
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 2: that ideal amount of time is that you're supposed to

2427
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: have for a single. Uh So you get to hear

2428
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 2: that kind of thing when you just you know, take

2429
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 2: a dive into any album. If you go into one

2430
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 2: of these again records doors you buy some think from

2431
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 2: the six seven dollars bit, you find these great albums

2432
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 2: that are just great top to bottom that people don't

2433
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 2: really talk about.

2434
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 3: And I think it's good that you discovered when.

2435
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: They're start talking about them. Okay, because it's all over

2436
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: my turntable. What do you got? Number three?

2437
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 2: All right? Number three in the jazz funk vain Yeah. God,

2438
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 2: this this is Stepping into Tomorrow by Donald Bird. This

2439
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 2: is an awesome album. This is the Violally Please exclusive

2440
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: press to forty five rpm, which is you know, if

2441
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 2: you really are an audio file you always like seeing

2442
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 2: records that are recorded.

2443
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 3: In half speed.

2444
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 2: But that Stepping Into Tomorrow is just an incredible jazz

2445
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 2: funk fusion album. That where Donald Bird another guy kind

2446
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: of like Miles Davis that just kept evolving as his

2447
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 2: career went on, where he was able to really go

2448
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 2: from hard bop and early jazz in the fifties all

2449
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 2: the way into the whole jazz, you know, jazz, funk,

2450
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,919
Speaker 2: fusion area, and I think that he did it masterfully.

2451
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 2: And that's another record you can find for like ten

2452
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 2: to twelve bucks if you want to just buy an

2453
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 2: original pressing or a repress.

2454
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 3: But I would recommend this one up to you. I

2455
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 3: think I've recommended this one to you in the.

2456
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 2: Past, and I don't know if you've gotten into it yet,

2457
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 2: but Stepping Into Tomorrow is an absolute gem of a record.

2458
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: I have, and it's fantastic. It was one of the

2459
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: first ones I added on title, and interestingly enough, there's

2460
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 1: a lot of crossover in seventies fusion jazz. I mean,

2461
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: I have got and end of jazz through your influence,

2462
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: but I'm much more a fan of fusion, which is

2463
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 1: combining jazz and rock together. And what you end up

2464
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: finding is a lot of these guys constantly playing on

2465
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: each other's albums, which is great because a lot of

2466
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: these backing bands become all star bands. I mean, you know,

2467
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: my favorite fusion record I always tell you about is

2468
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: the solo debut of Jocko pest Stories, which has like

2469
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Herbie Hancock on the keys and has like across the board,

2470
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 1: just an all star lineup. When I look at the

2471
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: lineup on this album, I don't know a lot of

2472
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: these names. So for this one to get to that level,

2473
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: this is a very impressive LP.

2474
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 2: It's just a phenomenal album and it's great for the summer.

2475
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,560
Speaker 2: It's really get gets the blood flowing gets you. It

2476
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 2: gets you up and moving.

2477
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: This is a good one, all right, all right, let's

2478
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: keep it rolling here. Number three. A lot of people

2479
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: know I'm a big grateful Dead fan jam band and

2480
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 1: the spinoffs of what the Dead has given us through

2481
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 1: the years, including the great bluegrass Jerry Garcia influenced Olden

2482
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: in the way. If you're not if you're not down

2483
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: with that, then come on, what are we talking about here?

2484
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: But this one was a monster surprise for me from

2485
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Bob Weir still fronting Dead in company with my boy

2486
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Otel Burbridge on Basin. They just started their new tour.

2487
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Bob is in his seventies and still going. But his

2488
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen solo effort his first solo album since that

2489
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: Forgotten one he did in the late seventies. Of course,

2490
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 1: he did ace his debut one, which is fantastic. That

2491
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 1: second one sucked the horn. This one was a shocker

2492
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: twenty sixteenth Blue Mountain. Why because it's a double LP.

2493
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 1: But it is as pure a folk record as you

2494
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: can ever purchase. This is not Grateful Dead style of

2495
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, bluegrass sya this or that. No, this is

2496
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 1: straight folk, straight Americana. This is an old man singing

2497
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: songs about rivers, mountains, valleys, and it's inspired. He had

2498
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: a co writer on it, but it's inspired by a

2499
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 1: lot of time he spent in his youth in Wyoming

2500
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: on looking at the open fields. And it is a

2501
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 1: mood album. It just sets a tone. It's a different

2502
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: voice than Bob has used during his Grateful Dead run.

2503
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't typically although I mean I love me some folk,

2504
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: you know, early Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, But I'm not

2505
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: a folk guy, you know. I love more of what became,

2506
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, when it plugged in the Birds and Dylan

2507
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 1: and what became of that. But this is just pure

2508
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 1: friggin folk, And it takes you to a place. And

2509
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: I think when you're a wash dad who's forty three,

2510
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 1: and you got a basement filled with fight photos and

2511
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: you get away from your family for the final two

2512
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: hours of the night, and you put the headphones on

2513
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 1: and you plug in. Sometimes you just you know, you

2514
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: want to be taken someplace, Bob, where it takes me

2515
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 1: to a river on this double LP here and it's incredible.

2516
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Shout out to Josh Kaufman, the producer, and it's it's

2517
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 1: a very good record, and no one talks about it.

2518
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 1: So good good shit right there.

2519
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 2: I missed The Grateful Dead Buss because you know, I've

2520
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: listened to The Anthems of the Sun and a lot

2521
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 2: of the different studio albums, but I know that they

2522
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 2: are They're mostly known for their live stuff.

2523
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 3: I just don't know how to get started.

2524
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 2: There are just so there's so much output from them

2525
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 2: that it makes it difficult for me to like get

2526
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 2: my feet wet with the Grateful Dad. And there's a

2527
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 2: lot of other musicians and bands that have been that

2528
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 2: are like that, where the discographies are.

2529
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 3: So long that I kind of have to pick and choose.

2530
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm like that with Dylan's discography, Like there are some

2531
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 2: Dylan albums that I just love, but I can't I

2532
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: just don't know when to get started with a lot

2533
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 2: of his other output. So it's I just need more time,

2534
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: but we can't that. The one thing that we can't

2535
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 2: buy is time.

2536
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: We can't buy it. On the show either, were running.

2537
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 3: Out, which I stop time and just listen to every

2538
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 3: record I want?

2539
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 1: Does that wrap up your vinyl for the weekend?

2540
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 2: I think I got one more.

2541
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh, hit hit me with that, Hit me with it?

2542
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: All right?

2543
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 3: We have car Seed Headrest Teens of Denial.

2544
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: This is an awesome indie rock album from the last

2545
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 2: couple of years, twenty sixteen in particular.

2546
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 3: I just love.

2547
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Speaker 2: Everything that this guy's done, and this particular album is

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01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 2: my favorite of his. You know he doesn't have He

2549
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: had prolific kind of online output where he was just

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01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 2: putting out singles after single after single after single. And

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01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 2: the reason he was called car Seat Headrest is because

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01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 2: that'shere We recorded a song as he got into the

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01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 2: backseat of his car, put his head up against the

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01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 2: car seat head rest and perform love that but Will Toledo.

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01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 2: Since then, the other front man of Car Seat Headrest

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01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:49,799
Speaker 2: has continued to evolve.

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01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 3: His last album was was pretty good.

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01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: It didn't do as much for me as as Teens

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01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 2: of Denial, but that's one that I've just been rocking

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01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 2: this summer.

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01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never heard of this band, and you've got

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01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 1: me intrigued by how you sold it in the indie vein?

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01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Is it Dad Rocky? Is it Death Cab? Is it

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01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Will co W?

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01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 3: Here's more towards punk? I would say, like, it's more

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01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 3: in that vein?

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01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Hey, I'll give it a spin man a

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01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: little dashboarding? No no, no dashboard on that? No?

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01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 3: What was that love with the dashboard light? Was that

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01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 3: the meat loape song?

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01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 5: No?

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01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 1: I was talking about Dashboard Confessional, But you were right

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01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: on there all right. Let me close with this my

2574
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: great vinyl exploration that's obviously gone into deep on Crosby,

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01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Stills and Nash and Young at times, and just how

2576
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: incredible that supergroup is. But what people tend to forget

2577
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 1: is how little studio albums they actually put out. They

2578
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 1: would break up a lot, they'd get in arguments, and

2579
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: then you had the solo breakouts, and you know, David

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01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: Crosby and Graham Nash put together a bunch of very

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01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: good solo albums that felt like Crosby, Stills and Nash

2582
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 1: records and sort of fall on that lineage one time, though,

2583
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 1: former Buffalo Springfield members and csn Y alums Steven Stills

2584
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: and Neil Young got together for nineteen seventy six is

2585
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Long May You Run? And this is one of those

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01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: rare albums that I want to put to the forefront

2587
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: and just say I think the ratings board gets it wrong.

2588
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: You go to sites like AllMusic dot com and they'll

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01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 1: tell you a three star album forgettable. It came off

2590
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 1: the heels of a broken attempt at reuniting Crosby, Stills

2591
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: and Nash for big money. That were arguments, so Still's

2592
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 1: and Young went into the studio. Young kind of carried

2593
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: the songwriting, but not only as Long May You Run.

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01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: My favorite Neil Young song and sort of one of

2595
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: those Bob Dylan Forever Young type of sort of seminole

2596
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: songs that you look deep within yourself as you age

2597
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: and look back on your life. Even though he wrote

2598
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: it about a car, which sadly kind of takes away

2599
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 1: the charm of it, but it's got one of those

2600
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 1: romanticized feels. The whole album has that. Yes, it's got

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01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: some of that earl that mid nineteen seventies Southern California

2602
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: Eagles country rock Laurel Canyon thing going. But it is

2603
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: a very good album, and also Stephen Still's starts to

2604
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 1: veer off a bit into Caribbean rhythms and some other

2605
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: things that might surprise you on here doesn't get the

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01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: credentials that deserves you. Never hear people talk about it

2607
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 1: within the CSN family or the great albums that Neil

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01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: Young has done on his own, but this one fits

2609
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: through the cracks and it is a hell of a

2610
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 1: mood record of this era, combining a few different ideas

2611
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 1: in genres and some really good songwriting. So check that

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01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,759
Speaker 1: out if you like that shit. Hopefully we kept viewers

2613
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 1: here ab through our run and vinyl.

2614
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 2: It's highly doubtful, but you know we did. We did

2615
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 2: our best in this It's and y Ecosphere is one

2616
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 2: that I need to explore a little bit more to.

2617
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 3: I love the Crosby solo album. If I can only

2618
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 3: remember my name, that's a yes.

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01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 1: So that's a forgotten how great that one is because

2620
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: it's so psychedelic and weird and has so many special

2621
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 1: guests on it, A big name too, great album, Good

2622
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: shit all together, Eric, Eric Bronstetter, Good shit altogether. Whether

2623
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 1: we lost people are not talking music or whether we

2624
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: brought them back in. Thank you for sliding in for

2625
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, for going to bat for MK, for feeling

2626
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 1: what we're feeling here. We know you do great work

2627
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: on TSN. Where can we follow you? Find you? What

2628
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: do you got going on here?

2629
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just go to Twitter at Aaron Bronstetter's Twitter account

2630
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 2: and you can find most of my output there. I

2631
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 2: know you guys have my Instagram link up. I'm not

2632
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 2: as active on Instagram as I should be. Haven't gotten

2633
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 2: too that ecosphere as much as I should have either, Brian,

2634
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 2: but you can find basically everything that I do. I

2635
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 2: try to keep on my Twitter account and TSN dot

2636
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 2: a slash UFC for all of our UFC output on TSN,

2637
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 2: and I love doing MK.

2638
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 3: I've had a great time doing with Luke, great time.

2639
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: Doing with you. You two guys are class acts, among

2640
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 2: the class acts in mixed martial arts journalists, So.

2641
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on.

2642
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 1: Hey, it takes a special journalist to be able to

2643
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: slide into what the weirdness we do here, and you

2644
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 1: fit in. Excuse me as I burp, I'm professionally you

2645
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: fit in perfectly. So love your work, Love the the

2646
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: interviews you put out there. Hope to see you on

2647
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 1: the road as well. I mean you want to maybe

2648
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: not have given you the the handsome rub so to speak,

2649
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: maybe wrong choice of words, but you're one of the

2650
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: better dressed journalists in this game. So I'll give your

2651
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: your songs for a tailor. I'll give your tailor that

2652
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 1: shout out right there. Hopefully you know, not having an

2653
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: affair with her, and she won't die young and your

2654
01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 1: sole album will be dead.

2655
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 2: I just gotta check the mail when I get upstairs,

2656
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 2: and yes, she'll have written me something lovely.

2657
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,640
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01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 1: out of this show. I mean, why wouldn't you want

2661
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: to do that? Is it the holiday? See there's probably

2662
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: some holiday coming up. Ourbor Day or Labor Labor Day

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Speaker 1: by your dad that for Labor Day. Also check out

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Speaker 1: our bonus content YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. Luke

2665
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: Thomas is on vacation. We'll be back next week. We

2666
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: got a great week coming for you on all things.

2667
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: Heading into you can check out the Jared Karen near

2668
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: talk ahead of the UFC on Saturday. Of course, next week,

2669
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: Jake Paul Tyron Woodley, it's gonna be great Bellatur Friday

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:44,400
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Speaker 1: keraton Off are gonna throw some sloppy meat hooks at

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 1: each other. That should be great. Thanks for buying into

2673
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 1: everything we do here. We love you back. I don't

2674
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: know much about loyalty, but I got two words for you,

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01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: for the Great Aaron Bronston or my name is BC,

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01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 1: and we out yeah