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Speaker 8: of this is you know, is very obnoxious, the flip

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Speaker 8: always been independent conservative media that has a real chance

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Speaker 8: independent conservative talk radio stations in many ways, the idea

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Speaker 8: of the so called Fairness Doctrine and I believe eighty seven.

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Speaker 8: And that had been a thorn in the side of

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Speaker 8: that it contained tended to be used in a one

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Speaker 6: Censorship. In the last eight years, and unlike Facebook and

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Speaker 6: Ai getting this five hundred five hundred billion AI investment

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Speaker 6: deal that was you know, announced by the President. You've

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Speaker 6: you know, give them enormous influence over the US media ecosystem.

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Speaker 6: And now see today open Ai launched something called chat

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Speaker 6: gpt Government, which is a chat GPT agent specifically built

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Speaker 6: for government agency. So they're trying to get some of

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Speaker 6: those contracts. And you know why is this concerning, It's

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Speaker 9: Think it's coat.

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Speaker 8: Questions, why is it that, Why is it that it's

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Speaker 8: view or liberal message. It's larger questions of cultural orientation

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Speaker 8: ultimately that have left the liberal point of view as

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Speaker 8: So I guess, I guess my short answer is, I

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Speaker 8: think conservative media is in a healthier place than it's

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Speaker 8: been before. But if you feel that the mainstream media

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Speaker 8: is giving your children messages that are inappropriate, then it's

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Speaker 8: very hard for the government to step in. Within the

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Speaker 8: constraints of the constitution, which we welcome, it's very hard

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Speaker 8: for the government to step in.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of the speaking of constraints on radio, we'd

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Speaker 9: Coming up with another quick break.

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Speaker 3: But that being said, for those those those stations with licenses,

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Speaker 3: perhaps perhaps there's some some funding questions that could be

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Speaker 3: done there, as President Trump is talking about. Right back here,

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Speaker 3: Jack Posovic quick.

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Speaker 11: Break, Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 11: I'm Terrence Bates, it is back to work on Capitol

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Speaker 11: Hill when it comes to that.

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Speaker 9: So called one big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 11: House Speaker Mike Johnson says progress is being made and

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Speaker 11: he's pushing his Republican colleagues to get the measure passed

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Speaker 11: within the next few weeks.

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Speaker 4: Over the last week, seven of our eleven committees of

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Speaker 4: jurisdiction got their pieces of that big beautiful bill done,

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Speaker 4: and so we have four committees yet to go, and

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Speaker 4: then we push it through back through the Budget Committee

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Speaker 4: to merge it altogether and send it to the Senate.

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Speaker 4: It will send stability out there to the markets, the

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Speaker 4: bond market, the stock market. Will It will allow job

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Speaker 4: creators and innovators and entrepreneurs to know that their tax

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Speaker 4: rates are stabilized and permanent going forward, so they can

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Speaker 4: plan accordingly. And it will be like jet fuel to

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Speaker 4: the economy. So and by the way, will prevent the

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Speaker 4: largest tax increase in US history, which is what would

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Speaker 4: happen by default at the end of this year. Failure

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Speaker 4: is not an option here.

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Speaker 11: Congressional Republicans have set a tentative goal of having the

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Speaker 11: funding bill passed in both the House and Senate and

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Speaker 11: on President Trump's desk by the fourth of July. However,

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Speaker 11: Speaker Johnson says he'd like to see it sign sale

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Speaker 11: delivered even before then. Well, President Trump has one eye

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Speaker 11: on Hollywood and he's trying to help that group out.

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Speaker 11: He's continuing his tariff policies, and the President says that

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Speaker 11: he plans to levy a one hundred percent tariff on

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Speaker 11: all movies that are produced outside the United States. He's

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Speaker 11: justifying the move, saying the United States movie industry is

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Speaker 11: dying a very fast depth due to other countries offering

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Speaker 11: incentives to attract American filmmakers and studios.

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Speaker 9: Taking the truth.

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Speaker 11: Social the President writing, this is a concerted effort by

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Speaker 11: other nations and therefore a national security threat. It is

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Speaker 11: in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda. He goes

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Speaker 11: on to stress, we want movies made in America again.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 11: Ukrainian President Vodamn Zelinski says a ceasefire in his country's

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Speaker 11: three year long war with Russia can happen at any time. However,

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Speaker 11: he's also calling on Ukraine's allies to apply more pressure

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Speaker 9: That's a quick check of your headlines. Hey Jack, where's Jack?

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Speaker 9: Where's Jack? Worthing?

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Speaker 5: Jack? I want to see you.

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Speaker 1: Great job Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 7: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 9: We're always talking about.

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Speaker 1: The fake news and demand, but we have guys, and

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Speaker 1: these are the guys who are for getting publishers.

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Speaker 9: All right, Jack Pacivic, We're back here.

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Speaker 3: Human Events, Real America's Voice and our three Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 3: Show on the Salem Radio Network. Folks, I got a

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Speaker 3: question for you. Did you know that over eighty percent

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Speaker 3: of the US meat industry is controlled by just for

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Speaker 3: companies or the fact that we've talked about it a

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Speaker 3: long time on this show, that China controls the largest

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Speaker 3: portion of the US meat industry.

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Speaker 9: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 3: Americans, especially in these days, want to know where their

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Speaker 9: We don't want to be reliant on a foreign.

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Speaker 3: Country for the food that we put on our families tables.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what Trump's tariff policy is all about, bringing

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Speaker 3: businesses back to Americans and American farms all across the country.

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Speaker 9: Two growing boys. And you're gonna love it just as

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Speaker 3: And you know something, der little secret, Tanya Tay loves

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Speaker 3: it too. Minkbox dot com slash posts we're back on

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Speaker 3: with FCC Commissioner Nate Simonton. We're talking about these these questions,

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Speaker 3: and it really had the issues about public funding for

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Speaker 3: and Commissioner, I guess, I guess the question that I

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Speaker 3: pulling your license or pulling your license, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a bit of more of a process

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Speaker 3: what what tools are in the toolbox to get to

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Speaker 3: the point where I think where President Trump wants, uh,

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Speaker 3: the American taxpayer dollars not going to these these left

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, there are definitely sources of direct funding that

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Speaker 8: that's obviously within the discretion of the executive branch. And

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Speaker 8: less Congress has specifically told the president that he can,

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Speaker 8: far as direct funding, that's relatively easy to touch. As

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Speaker 8: far as indirect funding, that's again that's a really interesting

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Speaker 5: And you know, we've.

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Speaker 8: The news says I haven't looked into it myself, but

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Speaker 8: wildly discretionary thing. It is just on parties, you know,

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Speaker 8: and there Until you understand the source of funding for

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Speaker 8: On the other hand, I want to put some cold

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Speaker 8: what those people want to get, then that is First

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Speaker 8: Amendment protected too. And that means as much as anything

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Speaker 8: that we have to build up alternative media voluntarily, much

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Speaker 8: as you're doing right at this moment right And this

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Speaker 8: And the other side of it is that there's nothing

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Speaker 8: It doesn't have to be political marginalization. A lot of

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Speaker 8: local newspapers just died for lack of interest. They were

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Speaker 8: sort of killed off by Craigslist because they were being

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Speaker 8: the end of it.

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Speaker 5: If it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.

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Speaker 8: It just took a single strike in the sixties to

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Speaker 3: Oh, I having worked in you know, having worked in

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Speaker 9: And you know when you see the.

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Speaker 3: The margins and the budgets at some of this, it

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Speaker 3: I've got to ask so and we've got to get

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Speaker 3: into it because I saw that you had written on this,

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Speaker 3: and sixty Minutes had the former Vice president on recently

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Speaker 3: with a clip talking about it, and so we're going

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Speaker 3: to get into that. I want to shift gears a

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Speaker 3: little bit from PBS to CBS. Guys, let's play that

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Speaker 3: clip of Kamala Harris on CBS sixty minutes.

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Speaker 9: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening.

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Speaker 5: Well, Bill, the.

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Speaker 12: Work that we have done has resulted in a number

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Speaker 12: of movements in that region by Israel that we're very

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Speaker 12: much prompted by or a result of many things, including

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Speaker 12: our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.

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Speaker 9: It seems that Prime Minister Netanya, who is not listening.

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Speaker 12: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for

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Speaker 12: the United States to be clear about where we stand

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Speaker 12: on the need for this war to end.

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Speaker 3: So Commissioner, obviously this has gone ten times viral on wine.

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Speaker 9: It's it's the.

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Speaker 3: Content of a lawsuit, is what is the what are

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Speaker 3: the issues here from your perspective and the the issues

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Speaker 3: going forward for really just our country from the president's perspective.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, So, you know how I was talking about the

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Speaker 8: importance of editorial independence. And in a broadcast production context,

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Speaker 8: obviously you're going to leave something on the cutting room floor.

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Speaker 8: No one airs all the footage that they shoot unless

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Speaker 8: it's a live show. That said, there's a long standing

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Speaker 8: FCC practice that while we don't scrutinize the truth of

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Speaker 8: what said on TV, we do scrutinize the honesty of

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Speaker 8: the presentation of facts on TV.

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Speaker 5: So this is an important distinction. Here's how I'd like

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Speaker 5: to frame it.

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Speaker 8: If someone, if a presidential candidate, for example, were to

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Speaker 8: say the sun will rise in the west before I

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Speaker 8: sign that bill, then that's one statement. If you cut

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Speaker 8: it so it's just him saying the sun will rise

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Speaker 8: in the west, then he sounds nuts, right. Obviously that's

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Speaker 8: a misleading presentation, even though it's also an accurate presentation.

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Speaker 8: So the mere fact of a major political figure saying

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Speaker 8: something makes it inherently newsworthy, and if you just honestly

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Speaker 8: cover it, then there's no way to go wrong. However,

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Speaker 8: if you take someone's answer and you distort it, you

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Speaker 8: make it confusing, you make it the opposite of what

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Speaker 8: they said, were totally different from what they said, then

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Speaker 8: you are no longer actually engaged in reporting. You're splicing

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Speaker 8: things together to create an interview that never happened. So

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Speaker 8: the FCC has a long standing concept that the airwaves

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Speaker 8: are a public trust. They belong to the American people,

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Speaker 8: and you have to use them if you have a

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Speaker 8: broadcasting license in the public interest. So if a broadcaster

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Speaker 8: participates in creating a distorted record of a newsworthy event,

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Speaker 8: then they could possibly be within a FCC's concept of

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Speaker 8: broadcast news distortion. This was invented back I think in

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Speaker 8: the sixties, when some broadcasters stage misleading automotive accidents, using

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Speaker 8: crash test dummies and such in order to make cars

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Speaker 8: look more dangerous than they really were. Obviously, the auto

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Speaker 8: companies sued, and that's where we get this doctrine from.

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Speaker 8: But we haven't had a case on this in about

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Speaker 8: thirty years because usually when people complain about it, they

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Speaker 8: complain about the statements being made, rather than the means

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Speaker 8: of presentation by the broadcast. What I think is very

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Speaker 8: interesting about this is that the complaint that we got

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Speaker 8: on this topic highlighted that specific point that it was

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Speaker 8: the broadcasters presentation of remarks that actually happened that was misleading.

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Speaker 8: And that's why there is at least in potential broadcasterliability here.

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Speaker 5: That's why there's a case.

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Speaker 3: And you know, by the way, I want to give

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Speaker 3: a shout out to the great Maze Moore who put

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Speaker 3: that all together and I think just really created so

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Speaker 3: much of a firestorm to be able to show point

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Speaker 3: by point all of these changes and alterations that were made.

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Speaker 3: You wud a piece up in the National Pulse as

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Speaker 3: long as well as co authored with Gavin Wax about

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Speaker 3: one potential option that TV stations could use or potentially

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Speaker 3: that the fcccret even use to fight back against this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Jack, So, the economics of how broadcasters, networks, cable channels,

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Speaker 8: cable systems all work together are very obscure to the public,

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Speaker 8: even to people who really follow the media. In fact,

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Speaker 8: they're sometimes even obscure to the FCC because they're not

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Speaker 8: necessarily reported to us. There might be even non disclosure

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Speaker 8: provisions so that the broadcasters, the ones that we regulate,

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Speaker 8: can't tell us about them.

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Speaker 5: But what I've learned through looking around is.

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Speaker 8: That the amount of fees that some broadcasters have to

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Speaker 8: pay up to the networks in order to remain affiliated

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Speaker 8: with those networks and continue carrying their content has sharply,

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Speaker 8: sharply increased the last few years. Not all networks have

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Speaker 8: adopted this practice, and not all networks have increased these

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Speaker 8: affiliation fees by the same amount, but in some cases

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Speaker 8: the affiliation fees have become so high that broadcasters are

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Speaker 8: now facing horribly unpalatable choices. Do they disaffiliate and simply

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Speaker 8: cease to have a network affiliation. In that case, the

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Speaker 8: network may we stand up a rival station in their

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Speaker 8: own town and beat them in their own market. Or

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Speaker 8: on the other hand, do they choose to pay those

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Speaker 8: fees and thus spend so much money on it that

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Speaker 8: they lose the ability to provide meaningful journalism, programming, and

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Speaker 8: even meteorology. Increasingly, that's the impossible choice that some broadcasters

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Speaker 8: are finding themselves in. So I proposed that the SEC

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Speaker 8: should staff a step in and cap these reverse retrands

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Speaker 8: or affiliation fees, and in order to ensure that the journalists,

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Speaker 8: the journalistic obligations that come with a broadcasting license are

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Speaker 8: actually capable economically of being fulfilled. It's not enough for

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Speaker 8: us to require local coverage. At a certain point, we're

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Speaker 8: asking people to make bricks without straw, to make local

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Speaker 8: coverage without the financial resources to do it. And in

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Speaker 8: my mind, if that is the last local journalistic institution

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Speaker 8: left standing, then we have a particularly heightened interest. The

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Speaker 8: public interest becomes even more acute in making sure that

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Speaker 8: there's economics work for the broadcasters.

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Speaker 9: I think this is great.

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Speaker 3: I think this is exactly what you need that it's

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Speaker 3: it's economic pressure that needs to get put on them,

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Speaker 3: and the stations can do this. It can all be enforced.

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Speaker 3: And again it's too correct the behavior. It's not to

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Speaker 3: change anyone's uh, anyone's opinion, anyone's ideas, but it is

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Speaker 3: to correct the behavior. Commissioner, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: joining to us once again here on Human Events.

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Speaker 10: Jack.

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Speaker 5: It's always a blast. Great to see you.

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Speaker 9: God bless Jack Posobic Here.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events Daily on the Salem Radio Network

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Speaker 3: and Real America Voice to be right back.

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Speaker 9: At pretty great. Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about it, Go get it.

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Speaker 5: And around.

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Speaker 2: In the Vatican City they are sizing each other up

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Speaker 2: ahead of the vote to pick the next Pope, and

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Speaker 2: while there are no official candidates just yet, a few

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Speaker 2: names are emerging as the top contender.

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Speaker 5: Fox News Alex Hogan has more from London.

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Speaker 13: As cardinals continue the morning process for Pope Francis, they're

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Speaker 13: also planning for the conclict where they'll choose his replacement,

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Speaker 13: and as the princes of the Church get to know

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Speaker 13: one another, a number of front runners are emerging. The

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Speaker 13: supporters of Francis and his reforms are said to be

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Speaker 13: backing to candidates Cardinal Matteo Zupi, the head of the

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Speaker 13: Italian Bishops who was chosen by the late Pope as

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Speaker 13: an ambassador of peace for Ukraine, and Cardinal Louis Tugley

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Speaker 13: of the Philippines, known as the Pope Francis of Asia. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 13: more conservatives appear to be coalescing around Cardinal Peter Erdo

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Speaker 13: of Budapest.

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Speaker 2: When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to human

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Speaker 2: events with Jack Bosobic.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jack sock back live here, Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 3: Real Miercer's Voice, and the Salem Radio Network for you

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Speaker 3: guys listening on Salem.

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Speaker 9: Though.

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Speaker 3: That is not a blurry vision out of focus. It's

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Speaker 3: a little bit rainy, a little bit cloudy in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. So we've got our shot of the White

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Speaker 3: House up, but it's got some rain on it there,

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Speaker 3: So it'll be we'll be working on that very soon,

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Speaker 3: very well. Maybe though that there are some liberal tears

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Speaker 3: that are that are affecting it because they see what

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Speaker 3: a great job President Trump is doing in the White

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Speaker 3: House and they just they just can't help themselves.

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Speaker 9: But folks, we've.

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Speaker 3: Been looking at I just saw this clip of President

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Speaker 3: Trump over the break and he said it so quickly.

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Speaker 3: They came up and they said, oh, you know, what

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Speaker 3: did you think of that? Over the weekend there was

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Speaker 3: this ridiculous kind of fake contry versy over President Trump

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Speaker 3: posting an image. I thought it was hilarious of himself

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Speaker 3: as the as the Pope. So the conclave is going

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Speaker 3: to be starting Wednesday in Saint Peter's, Saint Peter's Basilica,

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Speaker 3: the Sistine Chapel, itself, which is being turned into a

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Speaker 3: Faraday cage. And of course the selection of the next

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Speaker 3: pope is imminent. The cardinals have all arrived, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty three electors, and we know that many cardinals,

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Speaker 3: of course have begun the process of seeing who will

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Speaker 3: vie for the candidate to be the next Vicar of Christ,

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Speaker 3: the bishop of Rome itself, and so all eyes are

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Speaker 3: on Rome. So sure Trump posts this, you know, a

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Speaker 3: meme of of course himself as pope, throwing himself in.

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Speaker 9: There were some questions about eligibility.

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Speaker 3: Going to say the question, however, however, it only states

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Speaker 3: you just have to be baptized as pope to or

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Speaker 3: excuse me, baptized as Catholic. You do not have to

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Speaker 3: actually be a priest, something not everyone knows. So I've said,

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Speaker 3: perhaps Stephen K. Bannon, you know, why not?

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Speaker 9: Perhaps?

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Speaker 3: But President Trump also pointing out, you know, all he

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Speaker 3: would have to do is find a Catholic griefs to

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Speaker 3: baptize him and he would be good to go. I

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Speaker 3: believe there's an AI image now showing President Trump with

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Speaker 3: a super soaker of holy water. I hadn't seen that before,

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Speaker 3: to to bless the crowds, and then he was also

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Speaker 3: instead of the loaves and fishes, he was giving out

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Speaker 3: the French fries and Big Max. So, look, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's obviously a joke they ask him about. There's a

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Speaker 3: reporter who asks him about it in the Oval office

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Speaker 3: while he's giving a press briefing earlier today, and he said,

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Speaker 3: he said, no, what's the man. You can't take a joke.

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Speaker 3: You can't take a joke. It's ridiculous the things that

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Speaker 3: people try to.

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Speaker 9: Come up with.

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Speaker 3: By the way, and you want to talk about the

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Speaker 3: anti Catholic joke, well that would be the former president

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Speaker 3: of the United States, Joe Biden, being the quote unquote

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Speaker 3: first you know, or second Catholic president, and sitting there

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Speaker 3: and then sending his FBI after the traditional Latin Mass goers,

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Speaker 3: or going after people who were praying the Rosary a

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Speaker 3: little bit too hard, or going after people who were

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Speaker 3: are praying just praying outside of a pro life excuse me,

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Speaker 3: pro praying in a pro life manner, outside of an

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Speaker 3: abortion clinic. These these death carousels where they're killing babies

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Speaker 3: every single day, and you've got people praying out there,

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Speaker 3: religious women saying they wanted to stop and he had

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Speaker 3: his FBI rounding them up with the DOJ and Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 3: But no, but Joe Biden's a good Catholic. Remember, Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden's a good Catholic. Who cares about all those Catholics

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Speaker 3: he rounded up? Who cares about all those Catholics that

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Speaker 3: he went after when he's infiltrating their masses, when they

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Speaker 3: were putting FBI agents undercover while they're checking the sea,

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Speaker 3: who's praying the Rosary a little bit too much, which

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Speaker 3: which beads are more worn out than others? You to

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Speaker 3: keep an eye on that guy. That's what we had

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Speaker 3: going on under Joe Biden as our Catholic, our Catholic president. No,

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Speaker 3: that was the Joe Okay, that as the joke that

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Speaker 3: was offensive, and Kamala Harrison so many others making horrific

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Speaker 3: remarks about Catholics time and time again, and so you know,

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Speaker 3: we bear no no observances whatsoever to any of that.

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Speaker 9: And that's why they lost, by the way, And it

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Speaker 9: isn't just.

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Speaker 3: Because of losing the Catholic vote, which they did in

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Speaker 3: swing states like Pennsylvania where my brother and I were

876
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: going up and down the highways and byways to every

877
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: single Latin mass that we could find. We went to

878
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: a Polish mass and many many, of course, just the

879
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: English masses wherever we could find Catholics in Pennsylvania. So

880
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 3: many people did this in Michigan. So many people did

881
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: this in Wisconsin as well. And it's really come out

882
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: that this has been one of the major swings in

883
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four election. So the choice of the

884
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: next vote, it's going to be huge. I'll put it

885
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: this way. The Progressives they have the largest block right now.

886
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the speaker election. So the Cardinals

887
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: elect one of their own, but they don't have enough

888
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 3: votes on their own. They need some conservatives, so conservatives

889
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: can block. Looks like we could be seeing a compromise.

890
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: Deals are in the air, deals are being rejected, Health

891
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: rumors and all sorts of stuff are coming out. We'll

892
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: have more on that tomorrow because this is going to

893
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: be hot, and in fact it's hot already.

894
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 9: One of the biggest stories in the world.

895
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: Saint Peter's Basilica control, the fight for the control of

896
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: the Vatican. I'm Jack Posovic, ladies and gentlemen, As always,

897
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: you have my permission.

898
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 5: Way sure