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Speaker 1: You're listening to In the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horchak.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, and welcome back to In the Vets Office.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, doctor Josie, and today we are

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Speaker 2: joined by Justin Anderson. Justin and his fiancee Scoot are

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Speaker 2: dog dads to Kevin McAllister and Clark Griswold. You may

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Speaker 2: also know Justin from being one of the most well

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Speaker 2: known celebrity hair colorists, and he's besties with Kristin Cavalary

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Speaker 2: and often making appearances on her podcast or her reality show,

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Speaker 2: Very Cavalry. If you're not already following Justin on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: you probably should because he is hilarious and I love

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Speaker 2: his hot takes on all things pop culture. Welcome Justin.

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Speaker 1: What a nice little intro. I love that. It's so

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Speaker 1: funny when you're on a podcast and people are doing that.

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Speaker 1: I never know if I'm just like chime in or

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Speaker 1: just sit here like a little like vegetable. Yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's cute. Well that's not true. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited you're here in this podcast. As the

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Speaker 2: listeners know, is b Yod. Today it's B yo, double

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Speaker 2: d We've got both of your.

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Speaker 1: Dogs here, double dues in the house. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: that we have our dogs. Our dogs are like crazy dogs,

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Speaker 1: but they seem chill right now. They're sweet, they're doing good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's like good career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they might go crazy in a minute.

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Speaker 2: We had a pet psychic on last season, and we

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Speaker 2: are convinced that ever since then, like all the dogs

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Speaker 2: have been so calm. I think she's like Raiki, they're

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Speaker 2: staged the space.

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Speaker 1: I'm so into that stuff. We just worked with somebody

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Speaker 1: with our dogs, and she was explaining to us that Kevin,

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Speaker 1: the little white one who's not here, he might be

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Speaker 1: a little autistic or like have some sort of like add.

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Speaker 2: We call that autistic.

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Speaker 1: Oh really I like that. But dogs can have that stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, they're just like humans. Okay, some

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Speaker 2: come out super anxious, like they can be on the spectrum.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, m little white one is me, and then Clark

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Speaker 1: Griswold is my partner Scoot like personality wise, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they like got that from us

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Speaker 1: or if it was just like a perfect if that's

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Speaker 2: I think so. And there's like that saying that the

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Speaker 2: longer you've had your pet, the more you start to

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Speaker 2: look like, Yeah, I think that's true too, definitely.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and we're Kevin and I are completely bonded.

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Speaker 1: And then Scoot and Clark.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Well, we'll dive in to the dogs,

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Speaker 2: but first we're going to jump into our case of

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Speaker 2: the week. We always start our podcast with an interesting

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Speaker 2: case that I've seen in practice, and this case is

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Speaker 2: from back when I was first starting as a vet.

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Speaker 2: I had been out for like maybe three months out

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Speaker 2: of school. It was in Chicago, and I had an owner,

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Speaker 2: she was about my age, come in and she had

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Speaker 2: this big pit bull named Frank, and Frank was peeing

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Speaker 2: all over the house and getting into fights at the

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Speaker 2: dog park. Frank was not neutered. And this is very

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it. His balls were huge.

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Speaker 2: I mean they were like swaying in the wind. He

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Speaker 2: would sit with his legs open, they would like flop

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Speaker 1: So, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And so I told her, I was like, I think

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Speaker 2: we should neuter him. Like I think that's going to

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Speaker 2: sell all these issues plus like all the other benefits

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Speaker 2: of not getting prostatic cancer and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Because does that mean like they're like an alpha dog

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Speaker 1: too much testosterone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like full of tesosterone. They want to like

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Speaker 1: It's a real thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: I have big balls and I have a lot of testosterone.

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Speaker 1: Should be cut off.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind nutering you, but the dogs do. And

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Speaker 2: so I said, hey, I think we need to nuter him,

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Speaker 2: and she starts bursting into tears and she's like, my

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Speaker 2: husband refuses to get him Nuteredhall refused. And so I

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Speaker 2: have found that all the pushback that I get with neutering,

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Speaker 2: it's almost always neutering, not ever spang the girl dogs

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that makes so much sense.

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Speaker 2: Just want to go on record that, guys, if your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, say that.

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Speaker 2: So she goes home. She calls me two weeks later

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Speaker 2: and she says, doctor Josie, I just did some research

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Speaker 2: and I found out about neuticles. Do you know what

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Speaker 2: those are? And I was like, I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what those are? If a for like twelve seconds, and

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Speaker 2: so I get onto Google and they are silicone implants

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Speaker 2: dog ball implants. No, yes, And she said, the only

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Speaker 2: way my husband will agree to neuter our dog is

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Speaker 2: if we put nudicles in.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's like some elations. Wait, this was in Chicago, Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Who cares about your dog's balls?

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Speaker 2: Alpha man? I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm like actually shocked. Not a lot shocks to me,

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Speaker 1: but like, getting fake balls on a dog is the

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Speaker 1: weirdest thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: I was shook. So I neutered the dog and at

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Speaker 2: the time of neutering put in the dog all implants

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Speaker 2: and the neuter is like pretty quick. But when I

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Speaker 2: put the implants in, I'm like okay, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: I really took my time to make sure it's surgeon.

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Speaker 2: I that's what I said. I said, if all else fails,

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Speaker 2: I'll be a plastic surgery.

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Speaker 1: Oh. I had no idea that was a real thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of dogs are doing that.

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Speaker 2: No, I've heard like through the grapevine, through friends at

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Speaker 2: but no, it's definitely not a common thing.

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Speaker 1: That is the weirdest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: But all that to say, like, if your husbands don't

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Speaker 2: want to neuter your dogs, and that's what we have

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Speaker 2: to do to get it done. Like, I'm all for neuticles.

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Speaker 1: How did you even come up with like a price

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Speaker 1: for that? Did you have to like like ask her

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Speaker 1: and how much do you charge for them?

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Speaker 2: I made her purchase the nudicles and then she brought

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Speaker 2: So Frank still lives on with his fake balls.

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Speaker 1: Did they look good? Yeah, they looked beautiful, and they

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Speaker 1: were like similar size to they were before he went down.

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Speaker 2: We kept them about the same size. He wanted them

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Speaker 1: Like a boom lift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. That was Frank. And yeah, never, I

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Speaker 2: haven't done it since. I don't know if I ever

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Speaker 2: will again. But yeah, are your dogs uttered?

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Speaker 1: They're both neutered? Yeah, they're both. But I feel like

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Speaker 1: Kevin still has balls.

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Speaker 2: That's that has a really common misconception.

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Speaker 1: I feel them in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, there's two things going on here. So

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Speaker 2: one dogs have a bulbo urethral gland, so like on

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Speaker 2: little glands on either side, and those get enlarged in

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Speaker 1: Kevin is his wiener is huge. The first time his

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Speaker 1: wiener came out, because he humps a lot, like when

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Speaker 1: he was younger, he would hump a lot. We screamed

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Speaker 1: biggest wiener I've ever seen on a dog.

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Speaker 2: Scot Right, it's scary.

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Speaker 1: No, his is huge though, it's like the same size

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Speaker 1: he's so like alpha and he like he's like really dominant,

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Speaker 1: like he would hump everything. But the first time we

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Speaker 1: saw his wiener, we screamed so that we were running

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Speaker 1: ready from him, but then he couldn't get it back in.

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Speaker 2: It's the shock, and that is like if it stays

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Speaker 1: Okay, So scoot has to push it back in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is it not a glamorous job, but it's

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Speaker 2: what we signed up for.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't never he has to push it back in.

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Speaker 2: If that happens, a little bit of water with sugar

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Speaker 2: with sugar will help it go back in.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So what I was saying is in the morning

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Speaker 1: Okay, makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And then the other thing that people ask me is

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Speaker 2: when we take the testicles out, like the little scrotum

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I did. They just have a

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Speaker 1: Okay, Because I literally thought that maybe they made a

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Speaker 1: mistake and they didn't take his balls. Okay, so it

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Speaker 1: just like fills up with like fluid. That's pouch is

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Speaker 2: It is still there, and it will shrink with time,

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Speaker 2: like as the testosterone like slowly goes out of their system.

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Speaker 2: Like by the time they're ten, eleven, twelve, they're like

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Speaker 2: little scrotle pouch will be gone.

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Speaker 1: We can ask you a questions. I'm not that smart

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Speaker 1: about dogs, but like why do you have to neuter

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Speaker 1: male dogs so that they can't get girls pregnant?

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Speaker 2: Yes, A, we don't want to be I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be a grandparent just yet. And then b they

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Speaker 2: a lot of like behavioral issues like getting into fights, marking,

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Speaker 2: and then really the big thing is they get prostatic

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Speaker 2: disease if they're not neutered, and certain kinds of cancer.

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Speaker 2: So that's like that's the big one.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The downside to it is they can get like they're

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Speaker 2: more likely to get fat. Oh really because they don't

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Speaker 2: have all that testosterone in their system.

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Speaker 1: And so wait, so if they take the walls that

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Speaker 1: they're likely to.

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Speaker 2: Get fat, you're more likely to put on weight. Oh,

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Speaker 2: but I'd rather have like a little like a muffin

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Speaker 2: top on my dog than them getting cancer.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's getting chunky. He's getting chunky right now. He's getting big,

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Speaker 1: but I love him bigger. Well, that's another question that

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you. You have to really monitor

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Speaker 1: they'll come and like lay on me and hang out

439
00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,840
Speaker 1: with me. But Scoot is like takes care of everything,

440
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,000
Speaker 1: and it's kind of sad because he does all the

441
00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 1: really like all the work, and then they kind of

442
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,119
Speaker 1: will favor me at like the cuddly fun time or

443
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:20,960
Speaker 1: like playing you.

444
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,720
Speaker 2: Know, I relate to you. Yeah, it's not fair, like

445
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,400
Speaker 2: I feed you like I birthed you, and you don't

446
00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,640
Speaker 2: even give a shit. You just want to hang out

447
00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,199
Speaker 2: with my husband.

448
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's kind of funny, but we definitely

449
00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,040
Speaker 1: have like our two roles with them.

450
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure all the mom like human moms out

451
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,600
Speaker 2: there are probably listening to this, like yep, yeah, you

452
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,280
Speaker 2: get it.

453
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 1: It's a thing, right, Yeah, it's.

454
00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,080
Speaker 2: Definitely a thing. When you guys, I know you travel

455
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,760
Speaker 2: a lot. When you travel a isn't it the worst

456
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,840
Speaker 2: thing ever leaving your pets?

457
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,199
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's really hard. And we actually do

458
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,199
Speaker 1: travel a lot. And just the summer we traveled for

459
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,720
Speaker 1: a long time. We go to Nantucket for a big

460
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,879
Speaker 1: stretch in the summer with like family and stuff, and

461
00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 1: we've taken Kevin before this summer. Clark is new. We

462
00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,960
Speaker 1: just got him like around Christmas time, and he's kind

463
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,880
Speaker 1: of too young to take on a plane. And then

464
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 1: like in Nantucket, we like go to the beaches and

465
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,359
Speaker 1: we hang out. There's tons of dogs around, so we

466
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 1: got nervous, so we left them home this time with Coco,

467
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,320
Speaker 1: our neighbor.

468
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,760
Speaker 2: You're so lucky to have Coca. Yeah, that's amazing.

469
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,880
Speaker 1: It's the best thing in the world. Like, that's why

470
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,040
Speaker 1: we don't like worry out all. You know. Cocoa is

471
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 1: literally like their their mom, so we never get nervous

472
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,959
Speaker 1: about it. But it was really really hard. Same thing

473
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,879
Speaker 1: in Nantucket we'd be like drinking at dinner and we

474
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 1: start talking about the dogs and both of.

475
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:26,840
Speaker 2: Us start carrying out.

476
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so embarrassing too, because I never wanted to

477
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 1: be this person, Like this is so freaking queer that

478
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm like at dinner crying about my dogs. But it's

479
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 1: a real thing, you know, so real. And when we

480
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 1: got home, because that one was like a long stretch,

481
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,159
Speaker 1: so we were going to like a month and then

482
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 1: we got home. And that's also why Kevin, I think,

483
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 1: will not leave my side, like in the house, Like

484
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 1: he like sleeps on my head, like really really close,

485
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 1: because they get nervous that you're gonna leave again.

486
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, do they know when the suitcases are coming out?

487
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can feel their energy. They're staring at

488
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 1: the suitcase. They like keep coming around and sniffing it.

489
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 1: They'll like sit knit. They know what's happening. We're packing

490
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 1: because we do go on a lot of like little

491
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 1: trips and stuff, and so yeah, they definitely know.

492
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: If I didn't have a pet sitter that I like

493
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,879
Speaker 2: loved and I knew my dogs loved, like, I think

494
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 2: I'd be a recluse.

495
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh, we'd never leave, never leave our house. If it

496
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 1: wasn't for cocoa for.

497
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,160
Speaker 2: Sure, So Clark is new. How is it going from?

498
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 2: Because a lot of listeners will ask.

499
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 1: Mek you one question really quick about the vacation things.

500
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 1: Do they do they understand time? Like do they know

501
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,359
Speaker 1: how long that is?

502
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I wish.

503
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes people will say, like, oh, if you leave the house,

504
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,719
Speaker 1: the dogs don't know if it's five minutes or seven hours.

505
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: Is that true.

506
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 2: I think they have some concept of time, like, no

507
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 2: matter what, they're excited to see you, right, whether it's

508
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 2: been a week or like you just went to the

509
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 2: grocery store. So I think that that is where people

510
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 2: maybe get a little confused. But I think they I

511
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 2: think they have some concept of you.

512
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they came in like screaming when we got home.

513
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: Much of this trip, I bet like Kevin was on

514
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 1: my chest like howling screaming at you. Yeah. It was

515
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,679
Speaker 1: like the cutest thing. But then also broke my heart.

516
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: That's a cave. Caves make those noises like they were all.

517
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 1: So he wakes up in the morning and it like

518
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 1: to kind of like get me going and stuff. It's

519
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: the cutest thing in the world. Oh my god.

520
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of listeners will ask me, Hey,

521
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 2: I have one dog. We're thinking about getting a second,

522
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 2: Like we don't really know how it's going to go.

523
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 2: I have found that it usually goes great. What was

524
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: it in your guys' experience? Like how did Kevin handle it?

525
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: So we for a while, I was like begging to

526
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: get another dog, and Scoot was like, no, it's so

527
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: much work, and like we have it so good right

528
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 1: now because Kevin was so good as like a single

529
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: dog or whatever, and I was like, I would just

530
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: feel so much better if they had somebody to like

531
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: play with in the house. Bab blah. We went through

532
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 1: this whole thing forever. Then we got Clark and we

533
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 1: literally just the other night we're like, we want to

534
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: get another one, Like, you know, we were so nervous

535
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 1: about it, but it made it so much easier because

536
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: they're like little buddies, you know, And like I feel

537
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: like Kevin really loves attention from animals or people like whatever,

538
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 1: so having like another little buddy in the house has

539
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: made it so good for him.

540
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: It makes me feel better too, Like when I leave them,

541
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, they're not He's not there alone, Like

542
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: they have a buddy.

543
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: Or a friend. So also I'm so like codependent, like

544
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: such a people pleaser. So like with Kevin, like let's

545
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 1: say I was we were cooking in the kitchen. We

546
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 1: were like doing laundry or something. I feel bad when

547
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: he's bored, Like I feel really bad, Like I get like,

548
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, he's bored, Like I feel

549
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: like he's a dog. He can sit there like that.

550
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: You know. We actually both kind of like that, like

551
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,479
Speaker 1: we feel it. But now we're not worried at all

552
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: because they're like buddies. They chase each other around the house.

553
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: We were really nervous because, like I was saying, like

554
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: Kevin has like a really dominating personality. I was really

555
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: afraid that he was going to try to eat Clark

556
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 1: or something. But he's they're like best friends, and I

557
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 1: think he like knows that it's a puppy and like

558
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: it's his brother.

559
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: They're makes a huge difference.

560
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: They're protective of each other. But like Kevin is insane

561
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: about his ball, like he's will throw the ball all

562
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: day long, never gets tired, right, And so I was

563
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: so nervous. I'm like, if Clark takes the ball, Kevin's

564
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna lose his mind. He actually, he's totally fine with it.

565
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: It's like the weirdest thing to me. He doesn't he

566
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: doesn't try to attack him if he takes the ball.

567
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: It's it's usually having that adult dog and then a

568
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: puppy coming in nine times out of ten goes great

569
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: because they just Clark kind of learns the ropes. Kevin

570
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: shows him like, this is my ball, Like they just

571
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: figure it out. They have their little like hierarchy, so

572
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: it usually works itself out nicely. And it's funny you

573
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: say that, because I do have a lot of owners

574
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: that are like they feel guilt when their dogs are

575
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: like just chilling and dogs sleep like eighteen hours a day.

576
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Well, I'm like, whose dog sleeps eight hours?

577
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: Our dog does not sleep. But it's true they want

578
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: to just sleep and relax. Yeah, but like we feel bad.

579
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: Kevin though, has like little human eyes, Like when he

580
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: looks at you, it's like it it's like human eyed,

581
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: and he like looks at you like, I'm fucking bored, bro,

582
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: I need to do something. I feel so bad. Yeah,

583
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm trapped. Yeah, So it's helped so much to have

584
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: the two dogs.

585
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: That's interesting that he likes to fetch. That's sort of

586
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: unusual for cavaliers and be shin.

587
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: He is insane to the point where like that's where

588
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: we kind of thought that maybe he is like a

589
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: little bit autistic, because he like gets obsessed with the ball,

590
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like this weird obsession, kind of like neurotic

591
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: about it, neurotic Like when you kind of stop throwing

592
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: the ball from him, he starts like doing this weird

593
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: little moaning thing and he's like staring at you almost

594
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: like he's like nervous, and I'm like, really.

595
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Has some anxiety. I mean it sounds like he has

596
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: a separation anxiety, like maybe just generalized anxiety, which is,

597
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, I have anxiety. Who doesn't right? And they

598
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: all come out a little anxious. So that might be

599
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: what you're seeing.

600
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh that breaks my heart. Okay, can you take medication

601
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: for that?

602
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: They can take medication for that. We'll talk about it.

603
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: I saw a clip where you talked about trazodone and dog.

604
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: I took one of their traso doones one time because

605
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: I thought it would be a less I thought it'd

606
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: be less of a dose.

607
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and so When you said.

608
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: That, I was like, that makes perfect sense, because like

609
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: I could take anything. I'm like built like a street dog.

610
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: I could eat anything. My stomach never heard second deal. Yeah,

611
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: could take anything. I could drink so much that never

612
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: get too drug river. I took one of his tras dots.

613
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: I was like on another planet day night.

614
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: No, for all of you listening, humans can listen to

615
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: your doctor.

616
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: Don't.

617
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: Don't take tras donon unless they prescribe it for you.

618
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: But the dog dose is like exponentially more.

619
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: I haven't no. I thought it would be way less

620
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: because of their little body.

621
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: You would think, but they metabolize it differently. Yeah. So

622
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: if you take your dog's dose like you're you are

623
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: lights out, no one's home.

624
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: Wow, that made so much sense to me.

625
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: That was a t A lot of people will take

626
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: it to like sleep on long hal flights and stuff.

627
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: That's what I did. Yes, So we took it on scoot.

628
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: Where were we flying to last summer, Oh, to Greece,

629
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: And we took it and normally, like a sleeping pill

630
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: would take a while for me, I had like ordered food,

631
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: but I'm on the plane and I was like wait,

632
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm gonna eat my food and then go

633
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: to better. Ever, I took it within five minutes.

634
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: I was like, crash, can keep your eyes open.

635
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: And I actually started getting really bad inside because I'm like,

636
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: what is going on? Like it because it came on

637
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: so intense. This is an embarrassing story. He's a drug addict.

638
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: I really don't take anything except for like a sleeping

639
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: pill on a flight or no.

640
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean it's prescribed for humans.

641
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we didn't have it on that flight.

642
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: And so I had taken trasidone years ago when am

643
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: I going into the story coort when I was like

644
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: in a depressive state after a big breakup in my twenties.

645
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: So this doctor prescribed me trasdone because I couldn't sleep,

646
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: and it was like a game changer, put me back

647
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: on like a good sleeping cycle. So then all these

648
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: years later they prescribed the dog transit and I'm like, oh,

649
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: I could take one of those, yeah, because I know

650
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: that drug or whatever, and I took it.

651
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Now we know I'm not need a doctor. Josie in

652
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: your life before that, do you ever groom your own dogs?

653
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: Being that you are hair stylist, colorist, we.

654
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: Almost got to the point Scoot does. And Scoot's actually

655
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: really good at it, Yeah, because he has like a

656
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: really good eye for it.

657
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: Have you ever used any of your products? I know

658
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: you sold your company, but you I know you had

659
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: hair have hair products. Have you ever used them?

660
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? We did. We did use them on the dogs

661
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: and they were great. And for a while I thought

662
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: about like creating the line for dogs, you know, something

663
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: really really healthy because there's such a market for it.

664
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: Maybe we should collaborate. That would be fun. Oh my gosh,

665
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: look at this creating a business idea on the podcast.

666
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: That would be really good.

667
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people will die, especially in Boystown. We

668
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 2: have like rainbow colored tails and like a lot of

669
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: like dogs coming in with their hair or fur dyed.

670
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: And the big thing is like you want to use

671
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: animal safe tested product.

672
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: Yes, that's just safe. And then fragrance. So I'm like

673
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: a huge fragrance person. Like I love smells and I

674
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: want them to smell like me.

675
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Amazing.

676
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't have like a Santele smell like a yeah,

677
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: yes exactly, but our perfume is scary for dogs.

678
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: No, I think you just have to be like mindful

679
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: of what you're putting on them. I will say, like

680
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the dogs shampoos though, don't smell very good.

681
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: They don't they smell like fruit fruit. Yeah. I don't

682
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: like that stuff. I want them to smell like they're masculine,

683
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah.

684
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: I did see you post the other day about how

685
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: you liked shaggy dogs better than like the perfectly groomed

686
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 2: and it's funny you say that. I bet you've got

687
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: a lot of flak for that.

688
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: I got a lot. It really started.

689
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: As debate, but I'm here to say that I think

690
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: shaggy dogs are so cute and I kind of prefer

691
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: it too, as long as they're not matted, yeah, which

692
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: is like a big difference. I like when they're kind

693
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: of shaggy. I don't like them as like perfectly quaffed.

694
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Right. So I did get a little bit of heat

695
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: for that because there are a bunch of people coming

696
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: in and they should rightfully. So sometimes I don't like

697
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: when people chime in. I'm like, calm down, it's just Instagram.

698
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: We can say whatever we want, like whatever. But some

699
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: people came in because I used the word dreaded, which

700
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: is so bad. Piece. Okay, so we took Kevin to

701
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Nantucket a few summers ago and it was the first

702
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: time he ever went in the ocean. He's such a

703
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: good swimmer by the way he like swim his.

704
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: Way out, like go over bying all things, cavash on.

705
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Really he's like an Olympic swimmer. If he's like Michael.

706
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 2: Phelshon or Cavalier or go swimming.

707
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Really, that's what people were saying on the beach. They're like,

708
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: I've never seen a dog like that go in the water.

709
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Like he was obsessed, like he would swim. But his

710
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: hair was longer at the time. We came home and

711
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: we didn't know. You know, this is a new thing

712
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: for us. It was his first time on the beach

713
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: where his hair was so matted. So we took him

714
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: in and they were so pissed at us. They had

715
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: to shave him all the way down. So it can

716
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: hurt all when.

717
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: They come home when they're like shaved, I call him

718
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: like a naked mole rat. It's so sad.

719
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: They like, know, Oh, he was so embarrassed. He was mortified.

720
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even look at me. He knew what he

721
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: looked like. Yes, but also it's really sad because they

722
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: were saying that the dreads can hurt them so that

723
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: like pulls on their skin.

724
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: If they're really madded, like I saw all doodle owners

725
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: plan for every six eight weeks, like they have to

726
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: get groomed, and if they don't, like those mats can

727
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: like like cut off blood circulation to their skin.

728
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, So right after he gets groomed and he

729
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: comes home, I can't really even look at him out.

730
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: He looks like what was that guy's name, Ron Specter whatever,

731
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: the music guy who got in trouble. It's such a

732
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: niche person. But anyways, his hair is all like fluffy

733
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: and like combed out, and I'm like, don't even look

734
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: at me, Kevin, because I like when it gets a

735
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: little moisture to it.

736
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: In the middle perm almost yes, yeah.

737
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like when it has like a little bit

738
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: of a curl to it.

739
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think they're whatever's happening right now

740
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: is perfect.

741
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: They're adorable right now right this is great weather for

742
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: them too. There's a little bit of moisture in the air,

743
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: so like it curls up. I love that brush.

744
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: They look amazing. Anything. I always like to ask guests,

745
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: is there anything funny that you guys do in the

746
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: choir of your own home behind closed doors, that you're like,

747
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: this is so embarrassing, Like people will sing songs to

748
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: their pets or like tuck them in in a funny way,

749
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: or like we.

750
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: Are the most embarrassing, or i am Scoot just pointed

751
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: at me. I'm like, it's so embarrassing. Like I I

752
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: really talk to Kevin, and you know, I think he

753
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: understands everything that I'm saying. You know, I think that

754
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: he understands my language, like we talked, but he loves

755
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I can do like a really high pitch voice that's

756
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: actually like creepy. I'm not gonna do it right now. No,

757
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: it's so embarrassing, but you have to. Oh my god,

758
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

759
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: Whoosh, whoosh, whoh oh just started running towards you.

760
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: But he when I talked to him in that really annoying,

761
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: like mini mouse girl voice, he gets so excited.

762
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: He just bolted to you.

763
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: That was amazing. He loves it.

764
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh so cute.

765
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: But then I also read I would read way too

766
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: much about dogs, but I read that people were saying that,

767
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: like dogs really love when you do the high pitch

768
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: voice today.

769
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: I love it. I think they love it. I know

770
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: we sound ridiculous and like I'll be talking to dogs

771
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: in front of their owners and I'm like, I know

772
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: this person thinks I'm insane, but the dogs love it.

773
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: It makes them feel calm and it's like a sweet,

774
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: sweet voice. Right. I can get really really loud, like schoon.

775
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: I actually have such a great relationship, and we never

776
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: fight in the house. We're never like yelling. But I'm

777
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: a very loud person. Like in the morning, I come

778
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: out like love to sing a show too, yes, yes,

779
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: And Kevin's always been really good then really loud at

780
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: the boarding, I'm like really loud and morning. But Kevin

781
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: like loves it, like he gets getting amped up. Yeah,

782
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: but Clark it freaks him out. Like Clark's a little

783
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: scaredy cat.

784
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: You've got like the anxious dog, and then you've got

785
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: like the he just wants to chill. You guys are

786
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: like it's so funny.

787
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: It's literally scoop and I like that is crazy. There

788
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: are dogs exactly.

789
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I love it. Okay, we're gonna play who's

790
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: more likely to with Kevin and Clark, So who of

791
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: Kevin and Clark is more likely to poop in.

792
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: The house Clark, and he does it out of like

793
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: who goes to Clark. Yeah, he gets like he gets nervous.

794
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: It's a nervous poop. Yeah, that's my little dog at home.

795
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: He tries so hard to make out to the bathroom

796
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: and he'll be running and then he'll stop and he'll

797
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: just drop one little like ball on the way out

798
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: to the bathroom because he can't hold and make it

799
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: out to the door.

800
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: It's so funny though, because Kevin I think he's such

801
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: a people pleaser and he wants like people to love him.

802
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: He wants to be like a show off. So I

803
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: think he would hold a poop for ten days if

804
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: he had mortified trouble. Yeah. Yeah, he's like he's he

805
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: was kind of like a gay man, but he's actually

806
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: very straight, but he kind of seems like a gay man,

807
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Like he's very like clean and particular. Like I don't

808
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: think he would poop in the house just because of hygiene.

809
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, metro street man.

810
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very metro.

811
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: What is Clark?

812
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: He could be a sexual. Yeah, we don't really know. Yes,

813
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: that's spot off. Okay, he's asexual.

814
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: Clark just looked up.

815
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: Do you know why this is such a fun thing

816
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: to do. It's because we all love to talk about

817
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: our dogs, you know so clearly, like your listeners are

818
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: probably dog people, So this is like fun conversations. But

819
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: it's like I'm so aware, like I try to be

820
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: so self aware, like don't talk about your dogs too much.

821
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: But it's my favorite conversation.

822
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: This is what this whole podcast is about.

823
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: It.

824
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: I know, what a beautiful, amazing all of us welcome. Okay,

825
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: who's more likely to go on a hunger strike? Oh?

826
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: Oh well Kevin. Kevin's not food obsessed. Clark is like

827
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: food obsessed.

828
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Now, well he cooco. Will he stop eating when they

829
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 2: go on vacation, No, he'll just that. That is very

830
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: besh on of him. They will not eat for like

831
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: they'll skip many meals.

832
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: He will do that. He's Yeah, he's very He like

833
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. He's a he's a game player.

834
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: He's manipulative.

835
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows what he's a strategy.

836
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: It's all strategy with him. Like he's so weird. The

837
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: stuff that he'll do to get what he wants, it's

838
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: like crazy, and he like mopes, like when he's not

839
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: getting something he wants, he'll sit in the corner, just

840
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: go and like staring and tell you look yeah, like

841
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: the deep side.

842
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: You want for nothing? My dog's will the deep sigh. Okay.

843
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to bark at the mailman?

844
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh, Kevin is the biggest parker in the world. It's

845
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: actually a real problem.

846
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

847
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: He barks at like everything. He barks at the TV

848
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: like crazy.

849
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Does he watch the TV?

850
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: He watches the TV. Clark watches the TV a lot too.

851
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: But Kevin will just always see if there's a dog

852
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: or a horse or like a chicken on the TV

853
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: or something, and he loses his mind.

854
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: Say, that's a sign of high intelligence and dogs if

855
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: they can pick up other animals on screen.

856
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: Einstein, Baby Einstein. He is the smartest dog in the world.

857
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: I believe it's a genius. He would rule the world

858
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: if he could just find his words.

859
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Kevin for president in twenty twenty four.

860
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to hog the bed?

861
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: Clark is very not aware of his like space Like

862
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Clark will just like fall onto you, like throughout the night.

863
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Like Kevin will pick a spot and he'll stay there

864
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: all night. Okay, Clark moves around all night and like

865
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: he'll just like fall onto us and like nuzzle into you.

866
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: Clark Clark Griswold.

867
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to ignore you when you say no m.

868
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: I would say Kevin, And I think Kevin's like teaching

869
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: in Clark bad habits. They both don't listen. We like

870
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: have the most rowdy little kids in the world. Like

871
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: if if they were our kids, they would be the

872
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: kids that people would leave and be like their kids

873
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: are insane. We just have the discipline. No, there's no

874
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: discipline at all. And it's like having dog. It's taught us.

875
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Like we're not supposed to have kids, you know, all

876
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: my siblings are having kids now. Like I love being

877
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: an uncle more than anything that it's my favorite thing.

878
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: But like kids, I would have nightmare kids.

879
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: How do they do with kids?

880
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: The dogs? Yeah, oh they're great. Actually they're great, right,

881
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: they're great. Yeah, Yeah, they're good with kids.

882
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: That's good.

883
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: So if you ever do, I mean I would know

884
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: if they weren't, I guess like when my nieces and

885
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: nephews come, Yeah, they're really good with them. Actually, yeah.

886
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: Who is more likely to be a couch potato sounds

887
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: like they're both pretty active.

888
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: They're both well they're literally like so I would say

889
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Kevin because Kevin's like me, like I'm either crazy hyper,

890
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: can't sit down doing tons of things, or like I

891
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: love to be a couch potato and I'm really good.

892
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: I could rot for days, like once you give me

893
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: the the okay, yeah, like when I have nothing else

894
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: to do. And Kevin's the same way, Like Kevin will

895
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: like cuddle with you and just like hang out. He's

896
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: so he's it's Kevin Kevin.

897
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: And who's more likely to sneak a treat off the

898
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: table when you're not looking?

899
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: Sounds like it's Clark because Clark is just like really

900
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: food obsessed, like he's food obsessed.

901
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: Those are usually easier dogs to train. Oh really, they

902
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: like really are motivated by treats than usually you can

903
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: train them. I feel like Kevin would be tough to train.

904
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Kevin's like subburn, like strategic about when he eats.

905
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: No, there's nothing you can do about Kevin.

906
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Smarter than us. Probably we got about things were so dumb.

907
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Yea gives us the dirtiest looks.

908
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: One last thing I wanted to ask you, is you

909
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: know you have been with a lot of celebrities. Any

910
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: celebrities are like, wow, they're amazing dog parents, or like

911
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: any interesting stories from your time working with them and

912
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: their pets.

913
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I in my career. So my whole career was

914
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: like doing a celebrity hair color in Los Angeles, and

915
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: I really worked with like every celebrity I ever dreamed of,

916
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: Like I had a fabulous client tele and but I

917
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: found that the people that I connected the most with,

918
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: like my clients who I had forever, were dog people.

919
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Dog people, it's a certain breed, like I don't know,

920
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that's a certain type of person. So a lot of

921
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: my big celebrity clients were really good with dogs. Jennifer

922
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Aniston is like such a dog person.

923
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: Okay does she have she has?

924
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: I would say I think like three right now, And

925
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: but she's really into like the rescue stuff like on

926
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: her social media and stuff. She's just a real dog person.

927
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: I love people like that, you know, they have like

928
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: a big heart, yes for sure. And Miley Cyrus is

929
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: a really big into rescue and taking care of dogs

930
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: and super connected. Chelsea Handler is constantly rescuing what's that

931
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: type of dog? She has the big furry looking. I no, no, no,

932
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: it's a I don't know.

933
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him anyway.

934
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: She has like one type of dog she loves to rescue.

935
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: Do you still do hair color here for celebrities?

936
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't. So I did the hair color forever and

937
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: then I had my product line, you know, and then

938
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I moved here and wanted to totally change it up.

939
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: And I don't do hair, and I think maybe at

940
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: some point I'd love to go back to hair and

941
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: just do it like in a fun way. I don't

942
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: want to go back to doing it for money. I'm

943
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of in a place where in my life right

944
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: now where like money's not my driving factor. I want

945
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what I really want to do that

946
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: like makes me happy and I enjoy, right, And when

947
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: I was doing hair, I just take it so seriously,

948
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Like I was so busy. I was working seven days

949
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: a week. I was going to people's homes for house

950
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: calls like every night of the week and stuff because

951
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: they needed privacy and stuff. And I'm not good with

952
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: like setting boundaries for myself. So I don't want to

953
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: go back to that kind of lifestyle that I used

954
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: to have, working around the clock.

955
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: And everything, but I do I saw a little burnt out.

956
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: Oh I felt so burnt out. I was really good

957
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: at it. I was really talented and I did beautiful

958
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: hair color. But then also, like I just love connecting

959
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: with people. So that's the thing that I missed the most,

960
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: is like when they're sitting in the chair. Like I

961
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: loved connecting with my clients. They were all such good

962
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: friends of mine, like all of my celebrity clients, Like

963
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: I still keep in touch with them because like, I

964
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: loved the conversations that we would have. So I missed

965
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: that part of it, like the human connection part.

966
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: Maybe you should start a podcast.

967
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I had one when I was doing hair. It was

968
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: called in the Chair, and so I would be doing

969
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: their hair and we'd both be miked up and just

970
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: have fun conversations and it was so fun. But then

971
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville did Kristen's reality show, and I

972
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: had plans of going back to LA, but then the

973
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: pandemic happened and I just stopped going back to LA. So, yes,

974
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go back into that because

975
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: I love it. I love chatting with people and going

976
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: deep with people.

977
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: Well, I am so glad that you moved to Nashville,

978
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: and I have loved meeting Kevin and Clark. Before you go,

979
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: we're going to take a quick break and then we're

980
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: going to jump into Paw and Order. O. Good, all right,

981
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: we're back and for this week's Paw and Order, we

982
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: are going to talk about three things. Where as a veterinarian,

983
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: I would never do with my own pet. Number one,

984
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: I would not use Google or pet md to try

985
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: and diagnose my pet. This is a recipe to spiral,

986
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: and guys like I'm the first one to get it.

987
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: My I will twitch for four seconds and I'll be like,

988
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: I have a brain tumor and I'm gonna.

989
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: Die this exact same.

990
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad, and so I understand, but when it

991
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: comes to your animals, try not to do that. I

992
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: had an owner come in last week. Her dog was

993
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: tilting its head. She was in hysterics. Had to read

994
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: online that this can be because of a brain tumor

995
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: and he just had an ear infection. We treated it

996
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: and he was back to normal the next day. So

997
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: spare yourself the trauma and stay off.

998
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, that would freak me out. When

999
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: we first got Kevin, he went outside and he's I

1000
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: think he stepped on a wasp or a bee or something.

1001
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: And he came in and his face was so swollen

1002
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: and like he was freaked out. Like we were hysterical,

1003
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: like I mean just like to do a hysterical game

1004
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: and freaking out about like our baby. And it was

1005
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: like ten o'clock at night and we were like trying

1006
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: to get in touch with like a vetinaria and that

1007
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: was a nightmare of a night. Like we were both

1008
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: a mess, like trying to keep it together. But I

1009
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: was going on the I was googling it and the

1010
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: things that they were saying. I'm like, who is putting

1011
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: this information that They're like, get them to the hospital immediately,

1012
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: they can die. Their their throat's gonna close up. And

1013
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 1: I was like losing my mind. We're like righty around

1014
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: the house. Yes, we ended up finding a veterinarian in

1015
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: our neighborhood who helped us out.

1016
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: It definitely can send you down a rabbit hole and

1017
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, you know your dog needs to be

1018
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: seen and get care, but like and the intrum, it

1019
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: just turns you into like a total psychopath.

1020
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: So it's so funny because sco is like a total hypochondriac,

1021
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: and he like really freaks out about anything bad that happens.

1022
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: And like he and where I'm more like I had

1023
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: parents who were like, you broke your leg, You're fine,

1024
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: you can walk to school. You just walk home. Yeah,

1025
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: just hop the school or whatever. So I'm kind of

1026
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: the same way. But I always say to Scoot, I'm like, Scoot,

1027
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: these are dogs, Like they live, They're supposed to be

1028
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: out in the world, Like they could eat like garbage

1029
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: off the street and their stomachs would handle it or whatever.

1030
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: You know. I think they're pretty resilient, right, dogs very resilient.

1031
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean you think about like their ancestors were like

1032
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: wolves hunting in the world. Yes, granted as Kevin sits

1033
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: in his little carrier and with a perfectly groomed hair. No,

1034
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: they are resilient, and and we tend to make a

1035
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: much bigger deal than out of like what's actually going on.

1036
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean it is good to like worry, though you

1037
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: don't want to just like let your dog do any

1038
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: like I get it, but like it's a good reminder

1039
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: to us, like these dogs are built.

1040
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, ask your vet always if you have questions,

1041
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: ask your vet, but like you don't need to go

1042
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: down to dark.

1043
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: Is your husband pretty chill about everything? Like so chill? Okay,

1044
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: So that's a good balance. That's like scooting. I like

1045
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: that guy. I like talk scoot off of the ledge

1046
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: all the time with that kind of stuff.

1047
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeap, Luckily you're the yintur Yang.

1048
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: Okay.

1049
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: Number two. I would not let my dog drink out

1050
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: of communal dog bulls. Justin and I both live in Nashville.

1051
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: We know that, like in twelve South and Germantown, like

1052
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: a lot of restaurants and stores will have dog bowls

1053
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: out and I do love that. I think if you're

1054
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: in a pinch, like, of course, let your dog drink

1055
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: out of them. But they can get gi parasites and

1056
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: other viruses from contaminated water, so I'm really I try

1057
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: not to let them drink out of that. And then

1058
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: they make these like little they're not very aesthetically pleasing,

1059
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: but they make these little like plastic collapsible bulls that

1060
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: you can attach to their releash, so then you have

1061
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: them out and about and you can fill those up

1062
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: with water. So I would avoid the communal dog bulls

1063
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: as best as you can.

1064
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they drink their triple filtered water.

1065
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I would expect nothing.

1066
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: We're traveling. I was like, what a communal dog won't't

1067
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: net for her. I don't even think they would do it.

1068
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I think they would actually kind of be grossed that bay.

1069
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: They're so snobby. Our dogs like snobbier than scut and

1070
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: I like, we're actually kind of chill. But I don't

1071
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: think they would drink out of a communa bul. I

1072
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: think they'd literally look at it and walk away. I

1073
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: know Kevin would do that. He wouldn't do it. Kevin

1074
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: be like, absolutely, he is spoiled.

1075
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: Not know about reverse osmosis. Okay, number three. I would

1076
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: not go and buy new shoes and then leave them out,

1077
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: just kidding. I just did that, and I deeply regret it.

1078
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: My dogs haven't chewed shoes and years, and I just

1079
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: went and bought a fabulous new pair of shoes. My

1080
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: brother in law is getting married this weekend. And I

1081
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: came home and the heel is completely ripped off and

1082
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: chowed to shreds. And I thought maybe it was my

1083
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: big german chef bird, but it wasn't him. It was

1084
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: my sweet little dog who's never done anything wrong in

1085
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: her entire life. The listeners know Saya, yes, and she

1086
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: just went for it, and I can't blame her. It's

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Speaker 2: my fall, like I left them out. But this is

1088
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: just a reminder. They are dogs. They're unpredictable. So anything

1089
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Speaker 2: nice that you don't want mess with, keep it up.

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Speaker 1: Our dogs respect the shoes, thank god. Yeah, you're very lucky,

1091
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: very lucky with that. They like actually really respect shoes.

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Speaker 1: They don't chew on them.

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00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Is there anything that they like to go for?

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Speaker 1: Well, Kevin had like a little weird thing when he

1095
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: was like a younger puppy, like he chewed on the

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00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: side of our cabinet in the kitchen. Yeah, but now

1097
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: it's like so cute, Like I love it. I don't

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00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: want them. We didn't, we never painted over. I'm like,

1099
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's so cute. I like love it.

1100
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: We're gonna move and like take the cabinet with because

1101
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: it's so cute.

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Speaker 1: It's like these little, like tiny little bite marks in there.

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Speaker 1: So you did that, And then I think Clark would

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00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: if he was like left unattended. Do you create him

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00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: when you leave we Well, he's never alone. He always could.

1106
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: When I tell you that they are I've never been alone.

1107
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: They really haven't.

1108
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: Double dog dads like let me come back.

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00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like every time we go anywhere, it's over at

1110
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: Coco's house, you know, so they've never but Coco, we

1111
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: do the create training when they like take naps and stuff.

1112
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good, but they've never been in our house

1113
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: by themselves.

1114
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: Dog that would rip each individual button off the remote control. Yeah.

1115
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but she would do that.

1116
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1117
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: And I just kept getting remotes and she just kept

1118
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: to I mean, like you think I would have learned

1119
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: my lesson keep them up, but no. So anyways, yeah,

1120
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: keep your keep your nice things up if you don't

1121
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: want them to get chewed, even if your dog's never

1122
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: chew because they will surprise you. Anyways, that is our

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Speaker 2: episode for the week. Thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: This was so fun.

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Speaker 2: I loved having you. If you guys don't follow Justin,

1126
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: you should. His handle is at Justin Anderson on Instagram.

1127
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: He is very active on there, so I.

1128
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Speaker 1: Got too active. I like enjoy it so much. I

1129
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: love that for you.

1130
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm scared the dms I'm starting to get with this

1131
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: podcast are kind of crazy.

1132
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh the dms are crazy. I mean, I could go

1133
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: into a whole thing with that with you. It's just yeah,

1134
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: it's hard, but I love it once you find the

1135
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: right community, and I think you can kind of like

1136
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: nurture your community to like set boundaries for yourself. You

1137
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: say things that people. I appreciate your feedback, but I

1138
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: completely disagree with you, right, but you can kind of

1139
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: set boundaries and stuff, and I really feel like you

1140
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: can create like a really great creative disagree, but it's funny.

1141
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in that world where dogs, people have

1142
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: dogs and kids. I cannot believe the amount of like

1143
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: unsolicited feedback that people get. They'll feel very sor oh

1144
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: my gosh, Like when I watch my friends have a

1145
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: kid and they're on social media and then I see

1146
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: these comments that people write, I'm like, who are you

1147
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: by the way to like they're not whatever.

1148
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Speaker 2: It's great.

1149
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.

1150
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all that to say, if you do have questions,

1151
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: you can feel free to DM me. I do welcome them.

1152
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: It's just been an adjustment, I would say. And then

1153
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: please rate, review, and subscribe anywhere you listen to your

1154
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: podcasts and then send in your questions because we do

1155
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: are still doing our Q and as every week, so

1156
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: tap the link in my bio and feel free to

1157
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: record and we'll see you next week. Thanks guys, by