1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Shee's Brady Quinn. Always great to talk to 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Brady every Friday. Fox Sports College an NFL studio and 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: game analysts, and of course the radio show that precedes 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: ares Two Pros and a Cup of Joe alongside Labar 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Arrington and Jonas Knox. Also, Brady will be in Lincoln, 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Nebraska for Saturday's big noon kickoff on Fox with the 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State taking on Nebraska. Brady joins us, Now, what 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: happened to Nebraska? Well, I think they decided to leave 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: what was the Big Eight, Big Twelve and joined the 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Big Ten, where I don't know that they've ever really 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: found their footing and the ability to compete within that conference. 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I think from a recruiting standpoint, which we all know 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: is the lifeblood of college football programs, really any athletics 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: program at the college level, and they've struggled to be 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: able to do so competitively within that ofference. So I 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: think that's part of it. I also think they kind 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: of got away from what was success with Bo Polini 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: thinking they were going to get back to the heydays, 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: and it's just a different time in college football. And 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: it's harder now than ever, I think for some of 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: those blue bloods to understand that what you did in 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: the past, you're not going to be able to replicate 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: now in the future. You've got to change, you've got 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: to adapt and adjust, and I think they're still trying 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: to figure that out right now at Nebraska. What did 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: you think of the top four rankings with the committee. 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it, and it was 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: really for this reason. I think so many people who 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: were outraged by it, they were manipulated by the associated 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: press pool, the ape Pole, which here's the truth. We 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: gave away the power to this college Football Playoff committee 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: seven years ago, back in twenty fourteen. So if you 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: who wanted to buy into where people were ranked preseason 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: polls and throughout the season up until the point before 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: the committee actually came out with their first poll, that's 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: on you, like you were putting your stock and wait 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: in something that doesn't matter. Like I'm sorry, it just 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: it hasn't mattered since we've gotten to the College Football 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Playoff and since we've anointed a thirteen person committee. So 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't really taken back by it. It was really 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: more what I thought it was going to be because 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: we've seen throughout its history at this point of season 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: they rely on the eye test and factoring it essentially 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: strength the schedule and who you've beat, not who you've 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: lost to, at least at this point in time in 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: this season. So it didn't bother me. I think both 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Oklahoma still have paths to be able to 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: get up in the top four and be in the playoff. Yeah. 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I think if their goal was to get people upset 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: and talking about it, they did a really good job. 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: And let's not kid ourselves. This is a TV show. 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: This this whole event is about TV ratings getting the 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: right teams in there. I think Cincinnati is going to 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: be on the outside looking in even if they run 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the table, because it may not be fair. But if 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: you're saying a one loss Ohio State or a one 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: loss Alabama or a one loss Oklahoma, they might leap 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: frog or they might stay in front of Cincinnati. What 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: do you think, Todd, what's the update on Brady Quinn? 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: If he can just join us over the phone, then 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: that's fine. It doesn't have to be a zoom call. 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: It looked like he is reconnected. Yeah, but it doesn't 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: have to be a zoom call. We had trouble reaching 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: him on the phone, but I think he's back as 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: a zoom. Okay, we'll wait until he pops up on Man. 67 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: There he is. I thought you gave great thought to 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: my question by Brady that Cincinnati is going to be 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: left out of the final four. I think they're definitely 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna be left out if indeed you see Alabama be 71 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: George and SEC championship game, because if you look at 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: how the top twenty five is constructed as we speak, 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: seven teams are from the SEC, six teams are from 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: the Big ten. That's over half. So clearly they're still 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: telling you right now we can act like there's a 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: power of five. There's a power two essentially, and so 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna give more way to those two conferences, and 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: they're going to allow a one loss Georgia team in 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game to be in as well as Bama. Now, 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna Georgia beats Bam even a 81 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: close game. I know that narrative has been float out there. 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: We've never seen a two loss team get in. Bama's 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: not getting in if they have a second loss, but 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: that really the SEC Championship is the biggest way that 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Cincinnati could get knocked out. But the real question then becomes, 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: as well, look, if Ohio State wins out, they're gonna 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: be in. The winner of that SEC Championship game will 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: definitely be in. But I think George is in two. 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: So then you're really looking at three teams jocking for 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: that fourth spot, and you've got a COMPARI Sincinnati's strength 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: of schedule and they're wins versus Oregon and versus Oklahoma's 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: when it's all sa and done. Yeah, I think in 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: that scenario, if Bama beats Georgia, they'll be left out. 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: But I think if Georgia beats Bama yet two spots left, 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I think you see Oklahoma and since Natty go in 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and it's the PAC twelve in Oregon, that you know, 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: end up getting leap frog when it's all said and done, 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: which would be unfortunate for the Pac twelve, But we've 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: seen that in years past, and they really haven't been 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: a part of the College Football Playoff National Championship conversation 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: since it started. Yeah, you start to look at all 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: of this and how it unfolds and I'm also curious 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: about if Michigan loses to Ohio State. I guess, do 104 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: you think Jim Harball's job could be in jeopardy? Is 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: he on a warm seat, hot seat, any seat at all. 106 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: He's on a seat, that's for sure. Not wearing cacus anymore, 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: but he's on a seat. I think it really more 108 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: comes down to what he wants personally and professionally, because 109 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: I think he's well respected enough in certain circles where like, 110 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: if an NFL job came open, I could see him saying, 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go take that opportunity, and it doesn't look 112 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: as bad leaving your alma mater and leaving Michigan if 113 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: you go to the NFL. He has improved Michigan from 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: where they were. They just haven't been able to get 115 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: on top of the mountain yet. And so it really 116 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: comes down to his personal preference personally and professional as 117 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: to what he wants to do with the rest of 118 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: his coaching career. You know, does he want to keep coaching? 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I was and there he goes, No, we tried, Brady, 120 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: thank you. If you can hear me, then save travels. Yes, 121 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: But the Michigan thing, it's like Harbaugh has good seasons 122 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: and bad losses. Yeah, nine and two, ten and one, 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: ten and two. But then when there's an opportunity for 124 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: the signature, when it seems like it never happens. Brady 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Quinn courtesy of Fox Sports. He'll be in Lincoln, Nebrawska 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: for the Fox Big newon Kickoff number five Ohio State 127 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: taking on Nebraska. Be sure to catch the live edition 128 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show week days at nine am 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 130 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio WAP. We bring in Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback 131 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: of the Steelers. Steelers interested in Odell Beckham Junior. Ben, 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea that is way way okay. When's 133 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: the last time you waited in on picking up somebody 134 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: a free agent or a draft pick? Probably I probably 135 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: waded in to coach t a lot through like a 136 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: text on something I don't but you know, it's not 137 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: like it's hey, get this guy or else. It's just 138 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: a hey, what do you think about this guy? Or 139 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: maybe he'll shoot me a text? Do I know any 140 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: think about this guy? But but not a whole lot really? 141 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: All right? Whose idea was it to have fun with 142 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: coach Tomlin on the USC rumor what do you mean, well, 143 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: then you guys show up with gloves and follows at 144 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: your fight on there? Oh oh no, I just was 145 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: saying hey, like, um, yeah, I was because I had 146 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: actually um texted like earlier in the week. I think 147 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: when the news like kind of I don't know if 148 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: you called breaking new whatever you say. When Carson put 149 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: it out there, my agent called me and said, did 150 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you hear a Carson said, and I'm like no, and 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: he told me and then um, Coach T just happened 152 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: called me or I called him. I think he was 153 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: at his out of town for some personal reasons and 154 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I said, it looks like you got 155 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: some things to talk about. He's like, what are you 156 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: talking about? And he had no idea and I told 157 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: him and he's like, are you serious, Like it's news. 158 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think you're gonna have to answer for it, 159 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: and I think he's just press the next day and 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: that's what all this stuff came out. And so I 161 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: was speaking to the media the day after that and 162 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I you know, I gotta I go 163 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: with Coach T long enough, I gotta go so I 164 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: was looking for like stuff in Juju's locker and I 165 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: tried he had a sweatshirt, but it was a large 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: and out of look too ridiculous. So I just put 167 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: I put the gloves on and had him in my 168 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: in the hoodie and I tried to just like, you know, 169 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: tip the cap. Just a very subtle thing. So, um, 170 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: just have some fun. How did how did that go 171 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: over with coach tomlind He you know what, surprised He 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: never said anything, so maybe he didn't see it. Um. 173 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: So next time I was gonna, I was thinking about 174 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: doing like just like literally any school's got availability. I 175 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: was going to try and do it, just see what happens. Well, 176 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: Carson sent it, said it on my show, and I 177 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: was saying, I was saying, hey, you know, you know, 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: are you helping with the you know, getting us you know, 179 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: coaching candidates there? And he goes, yeah, you know, and 180 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're looking at a variety of guys and 181 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: he goes, yuh, and maybe a wild card would be 182 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. And then he could tell from my reaction, goes, oh, 183 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you haven't heard that, and I go no, And I 184 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: don't think America has either they had, he added he 185 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: was he was, so he's like, are you serious. I'm like, 186 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I tell him, you're being at dance reporter. You know. 187 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: I keep looking around the league and it's a war 188 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: of attrition. And we've added a seventeenth game. They're going 189 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: to add an eighteenth game, but you'll probably be out 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: of the league by then. But I mean, does this 191 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: makes sense. I know that there's money attached, and that's 192 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: the bottom line, but man, it's tough to stay healthy 193 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: no matter how long a season is it is. And 194 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: I think my wife and I were just talking about 195 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: this last week, like literally, every time you turn on 196 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the TV, whether it's the bottom line or breaking news 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: or whatever, so and so gets hurt. So and so 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: gets hurt. I get it's football, And I'm not trying 199 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: to say it's because of the extra games or whatever 200 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: it is, or lack of preseasons or training camps or 201 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what guys are bigger, faster, 202 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: or stronger, but I mean, guys are just getting banged 203 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: up left and right. And maybe it's no different than usual, 204 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: but my mind, it feels like it is. And you're right, 205 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's how can you get healthy at 206 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: the right time, you know, towards the stretch of the 207 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: end and enough to win games? And um, you know 208 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: it's kylie. We went through it with We had groins 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and hamstrings there for a little stretch and um, you know, 210 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: luckily those aren't as serious as some of the other 211 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: ones that were going around right now. Okay, but it 212 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: used to be that we would talk about you and 213 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: it'd be well, Ben Roethlisberger can extend to play like 214 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you would take on a defender or have two guys 215 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: hanging off of you. Are you still capable of are 216 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: you willing to do that? Or have you changed your strategy? Yeah, 217 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: if it takes it to win. Did you see me 218 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: go for that two point corson the other day. I 219 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: know you're confusing with you know who's back there, but man, 220 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: that was quite an athletic move there that you had. No, 221 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I didn't say athletic, said there was no athleticism. It 222 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: was more about heart and all that. What it was. 223 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay, that was your heart on display? Okay, all right, yeah, 224 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: that was that was that took about fifteen seconds to 225 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: a run two and a half yards, So you can 226 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: undy right, you can still run Brady. He gets weighed 227 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: down by all those Super Bowl rings though. You know, 228 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: how do you explain Brady? I don't know. Um, you know, 229 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: obviously the guy puts his body through avocado ice cream 230 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: and all these crazy you know, the craziness that he does. 231 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: And um, I know that he puts the work in 232 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: the timed effort, like through film study, through work things 233 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: like that, and um, golly, he's just he's unbelievable. I 234 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it. I wish I knew 235 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: he's five years older than you. I know, it's unbelievable, unbelievable. 236 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: What do you think he'll be doing at He'll stand 237 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: in the pocket. It still blows my mind that he 238 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: stands in the pocket sometimes like completely flat footed, looking 239 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: around like I feel like if I'm flat footed for 240 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: like a half a second, like someone's about to kill me. 241 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's unbelieving what he does. What will you 242 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: be doing at forty four, um, being a dad and 243 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: a husband and probably coaching Little League something. Um, I 244 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: don't know yet. That's that's that's the ways down the road. 245 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I was want how far down the road? Well, I'm 246 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: gonna be forty in March, so it's like four and 247 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a half. That's lots of ways. Okay, Is that is 248 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: that your way of trying to ask me if I 249 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: want to play, tell i'm because that's that's the most 250 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: unique ways. I'm gonna ask me how I'm gonna play, 251 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and how would you answer it? I promise you I 252 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: won't be playing football forty four. Okay, this just in 253 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: breaking news. Ben Roethlisberger announces the retirement in five years. 254 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: I can go with that. Well, I'll be playing football 255 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: in the backyard with my kids probably doing that. What 256 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: do you do better now than you did ten years ago? 257 00:13:52,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Um man, I don't know. Probably read a defense, um, 258 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: you know back then it was just, you know, use 259 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: your athleticism make people hang off you. I think you 260 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: have to you have to grow in that in that area. 261 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: I think, UM, understanding um my teammates and men and 262 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: trying to be a better leader. I think there's ways, Um, 263 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: I've learned this through through the many years I've played. 264 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: There's there's ways to motivate to talk to um different 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: guys and each guy's difference, not like you just go 266 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: talk to lineman the same. In receivers, literally, if you 267 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: if you learn and want to be a great leader 268 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: of men or of a football team, you have to 269 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: learn how to speak to each person and what motivates 270 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: each person. I think I've I take pride in trying 271 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: to know how to do that, how to pull a 272 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: guy aside um. Some guys you just give them a look, 273 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: you know. So I take pride in trying and leading 274 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: um football players and men. I obviously read into a 275 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: lot factoring in how long you played. But I'm watching 276 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the game against the Browns last year in the playoffs, 277 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: and it was emotional for you. You know, you were 278 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: crying on the bench, and I thought, this is it, 279 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, losing to the you know, the team from 280 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: your hometown. And then you beat the Browns last week, 281 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: and then like there was true emotion in beating the Browns, Like, 282 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: help me understand the significance of where you were last 283 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: year in that reaction to where you are this year 284 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: in that reaction playing the same team. Well, you know, 285 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: you hate to lose the playoffs, right, We always say 286 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: one team, only one team ends the season the way 287 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: they want to, and of course something's probably in the 288 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: season they just want to get done. But you know, 289 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: it's Uh sitting there with with pounds, knowing that it 290 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: was probably it for him, and what that guy meant 291 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: to me, I think that was as much of the 292 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: emotion as losing the game. Obviously, I hate to lose, 293 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: so you get emotion. You hate to lose at home 294 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: against the Browns, all those things, the visional oponent, But 295 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: that guy's sitting next to me just means so much 296 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: to me, and so I knew it was going to 297 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: be tough to get him to come back for another one. 298 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: So that was part of the emotion of last year 299 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: and then this year. I think it's it's going to 300 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: a place that I've played many times. It's an AFC 301 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: North opponent. I've won many times up there, and I 302 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: told the guys after the game, the young guys especially, 303 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: don't ever take winning up there against that team for granted. 304 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: I've done it many times. I don't take it for 305 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: granted like that. That win meant as much to me 306 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: as as any of them, just because of what you 307 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: have to go through to win at that place. The 308 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: fans are awesome, like I'll never you know, those those 309 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: fans are unbelievable, and so to go there where it's loud, 310 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: where it's a good team, it's an opponent. That's why 311 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I think I had that emotion after the game, because 312 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: if you just don't take it for granted, he's the 313 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger joining us, He's got the game 314 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Monday night against the Bears with the Aaron Rodgers News. 315 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: How what kind of safety protocol do you go through 316 00:16:53,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: every single day? I have my tracer on NFL tracer, okay, 317 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: so you know where I'm at, who I'm around. You 318 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: can't take that off, Oh you get well, you can 319 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: take it off like for a shower maybe, but you 320 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: better have it on you if you if you leave 321 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: in your locker for a second, they're gonna bring it 322 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: to you. So that's the that's the one way I 323 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: don't want to get fine, so I keep my tracer 324 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: on them. But you know, you got guys who are 325 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: probably not vaccinated. Do they have a certain protocol, like 326 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: they go one way when you go into building and 327 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: you go another way. I don't, like I said, I 328 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: don't know. Um, I think you're supposed to have your 329 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: mask on if you're not back. So I don't know 330 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: who on our team is and isn't Um, I know, 331 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: I am so I don't have to have my mask on, 332 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: but um, you know it's you still have to live 333 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: your life. Last year was such a bubble that we 334 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: all lived in. It was so crazy. Um, we all 335 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: sacrifice so much. People are still sacrificing obviously now and 336 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: doing the smart thing. But I, um, you know, I'm 337 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: still trying to live my life to the best, you know, 338 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: the best I can. I saw where you reached out 339 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: to some quarterbacks in the offseason. I think one of 340 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: the mannings. I don't know if it was eliar Peyton. Uh, 341 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if you reached out to Drew Brees, 342 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: just sort of kind of understanding of what this moment means. 343 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: And I was always told, if you're thinking about retiring, 344 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: then retire. Uh. Is that fair? Um? To a certain extent, 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: I think you're I think that's a fair point. Um. 346 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: I think it depends on where you are in your 347 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 1: retirement thinking or you know, it's just what you know. 348 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Um are you Are you sitting there saying, man, fifty 349 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: fifty do I come back? Do I? You know, do 350 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: I retire? If you're at that point, then you're probably right. 351 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: If it's entered your mind that Okay, this this could 352 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: be it, or this is the last stretch. Then then 353 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I think you could probably you could probably still do it. 354 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: I think each person's probably a little different too. You know, 355 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: when did your kids realize what dad did for a living? Um, 356 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: probably about two year my oldest one, probably about two 357 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: years ago. He's going to be nine, so probably about 358 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: right off the six or seven mark. When kids at 359 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: school started to be like, oh, your dad does this, 360 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: or um, you know, going to games, like understanding people 361 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: wearing your jersey, or people horror nat you when you're 362 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: driving in the car, or you go to go out 363 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: somewhere and they're they're holler nat you. The kids are like, 364 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: I remember the first time someone like holler like big man. 365 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: My kids like, what how does that part? Like? Who 366 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: is that? Dad? Okay? Does your son wear your jersey 367 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: or does he like another quarterback? No, he wears mine. 368 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: He likes other guys. I mean he's got like he's 369 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: got a Claypool jersey. He had James Connor jersey. Juju 370 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: but he always but it never fails. He always goes 371 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: back to Dad on game day. Have you brought out 372 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: the super pop, big guy like he love. He wears 373 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: his little like the remember we all had the like 374 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: the starter uniform, like the one with a little like 375 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: rub the small helmet with a little bar and the 376 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: he's got like nineties on the side of his helmet, 377 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: you know. So he's got the guy to it. And 378 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: he likes to hit his little brothers. So he does. 379 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be a quarterback? Um? He's very talented 380 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: throwing the ball. He wants to play football. We haven't 381 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: let him play, not let him, but we just haven't 382 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: done it yet. He's a very good golfer, and so 383 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: I think he might do golf. The younger ones done 384 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: are probably pretty good. He's a little wrecking ball. I 385 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: have played golf with Ben and uh, I think you 386 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: were just starting out playing when we got to do 387 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: it again? When when when when we played in Tahoe, 388 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and I remember, I tell the story and I've said 389 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: this to Breeze too, because we played with Drew Brees 390 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: and he's the most competitive, Like how competitive was he 391 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: that day? Very crazy? Very crazy? Yes, he bogey's the 392 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: eighteenth and Ben and I are finishing our whole and 393 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: and Breeze he might have parted. He didn't bird it. 394 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: He walked off the green and and and so you're 395 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: supposed to shake hands and all and and and uh, 396 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: Breeze walks off and Ben goes. Uh. I guess I'll 397 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: shake your hand twice. I'll represent both quarterbacks. And he 398 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: was intense. You can be competitive and still you know 399 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: he can still shake a hand after a rabbit. All 400 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: I went. And the next day I saw him on 401 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: the driving range and I thought, oh man, I'm not 402 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: gonna say anything. He walks over and he goes. Day dann, 403 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I had so much fun yesterday. I go, you did? 404 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: He goes Yeah. I said, oh okay, well I did too. 405 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Me too. I was like, what do you think of 406 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: breezes retirement here from football? Yeah, okay, I'll say that 407 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: some new news happened his hair. Oh oh is there 408 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: something different there? Okay, all right, I got it, all right, 409 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: fight on, fight fight on something like that. Hey, uh, 410 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: you make time every year to come on. Thank you. 411 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate it, and you know, hopefully play as long 412 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: as you want to play. But thanks again, I appreciate 413 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Let's get golf on some time again. 414 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Bun. A third Yeah, another quarterback. Let's find 415 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: another quarterback, not Breeze, Thank you Ben. That's Ben Roethlisberger. 416 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: These Steelers and the Bears. That'll be coming up on Monday. 417 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 418 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 419 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeart Radio app search f 420 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: SR to listen live. 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Now, can you 439 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: explain the process here of him going onto waivers and 440 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: then what happens after that? Yeah, Dan, after the trade deadline, 441 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: any player, no matter how many years in the league, 442 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: must pass through waivers. If for a least, if this 443 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: is happened a week ago, he'd be able to go 444 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: anywhere he wants. It happens now he's got to go 445 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: through waivers. And what I'm going to be curious to 446 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: see is what they exact he did to his contract. 447 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: The Browns wanted to reduce their financial obligation to him 448 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: moving forward, but there's a sweet spot there because if 449 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: you make it too attractive, then one of these other 450 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: teams says, we'll just claim the contract on waivers. Beckham 451 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: wants to be a free agent for the first time 452 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: in his career, so that's what to watch during the 453 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: waiver period. That window will open once he's officially released, 454 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: presumably at four pm Eastern today, teams will have the 455 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: ability to make their waiver claims and then we just 456 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: have to wait and see what the results are. All 457 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: it takes is one team. One team claims him. He 458 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: goes to that team, whether he wants to or not. 459 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: And how does it start with? The pecking order of 460 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: the Lions are on the clock for Odell Beckham correct, 461 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: that's right. There's an order that gets updated every week 462 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: during the regular season. After the third week is when 463 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: it starts to change. It's locked in going into the 464 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: season for the first three weeks. After week three, every 465 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: week it's updated. The Lions as the only winless team 466 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: have DIBs, and then you'd have the Texans and the 467 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins and whoever loses that game this weekend, assuming the 468 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: waiver period doesn't close before Sunday, that team would have 469 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: second digs and so on until we get down to 470 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: the best teams. That's how it goes, and you don't 471 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: know what other teams have done. Everybody either says yes 472 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: or no, puts in a claim and then the league 473 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: sorts it all out. You could have in theory thirty 474 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: teams make a claim for him on waivers. But the 475 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: team with the highest priority is the one who gets him. Okay, 476 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: more likely that he clears waivers or that he's picked 477 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: up by a team. Got to see the contract, got 478 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: to see how they have negotiated it. I would like 479 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: to think his agent insisted on a structure that will 480 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: make it more likely that he's not claimed on waivers. 481 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: And let me give you a quick example without getting 482 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: too far into the weeds. Browns want to reduce his salary, 483 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: want to pay him less? Okay, fine, Well, let's put 484 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: in the contract a clause that he gets five hundred 485 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: thousand per game when he's on the active roster per 486 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: game roster bonus, an enormous amount that would scare a 487 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: team off from claiming him on waivers, because that automatically 488 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: becomes part of what they owe him if they take him. 489 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Browns don't have to pay it, but if you take him, 490 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: you have to pay it. Something like that would be 491 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: advisable if the goal is to help him clear waivers. 492 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Who should who should pick him up? Well? Look, I 493 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: think the Packers should. I think the Chiefs should. The 494 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs have been struggling to find someone who can step 495 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: in and supplement Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey. There are 496 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: some high end contenders out there that should want him. 497 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: The names that have bubbled up so far, though, I'm 498 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: told Seahawks, forty nine Ers, and Saints. The Saints already 499 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: were talking to the Browns about a trade, they couldn't 500 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: work it out. I think the Saints would be very 501 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: interested in adding him to the mix. My understanding is 502 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: he'd like to play for the Seahawks, and if those 503 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: are the three eight teams that are most intent in 504 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: pursuing him, Seahawks had the best quarterback in Russell Wilson 505 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: wants he's healthy, so it would make sense. But yeah, 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: there are plenty of teams that I think should want 507 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: to see what he can do. The question is nobody 508 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: really knows what he can do. Yeah, he's been open 509 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot this year, but her defense is really paying 510 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: attention to him the way they used to. I don't 511 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: think so. What if Baker Mayfield is the issue? Well, 512 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: if he is, the Browns have chosen Baker Mayfield over 513 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior. And when they did the trade out 514 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: of the Blue March of twenty nineteen, my first reaction was, 515 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland is a town that's not big enough for both 516 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and OBJ. And I remember when the off 517 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: season program started in April of that year and everyone 518 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: was there for the first day they did the press 519 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: conference with OBJ and Mayfield and Jarvis Landry who's been 520 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: close with Beckham dating back to their days at LSU. 521 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: And then Mayfield has to be there as the quarterback 522 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: after OBJ just walks out the door and disappears for 523 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: the off season program. That's your opportunity to build chemistry, 524 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: to get to know a guy, and OBJ is nowhere 525 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: to be seen. I think that threw a wrench into 526 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: it early on, the pressure to constantly get the ball 527 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: to OBJ. Think Mayfield resented that he's the quarterback. He 528 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: makes the decision as to who's open and where the 529 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: ball goes, and I just don't think it ever really 530 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: got them on the same page. He's Mike Florial Pro 531 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Football Talk Live co host the Aaron Rodgers situation. How 532 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: complicit is the team in this situation? Was there a 533 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: cover up? You know, is Aaron Rodgers is going to 534 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: be suspended? Maybe fine of go ahead, pick pick one 535 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: of those questions. Literally, there was no cover up because 536 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: he repeatedly did press conferences in the facility without his 537 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: face cover. And this is what's strange about the COVID protocols. 538 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: DAN and a lot of teams are watching this because 539 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: the league has a history of being selective in its 540 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: enforcement of rules. Last year, handful of teams got hammered 541 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: for coaches not properly wearing masks, when a lot more 542 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: coaches than the ones who got hammered weren't wearing masks. 543 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: So there's teams out there that repeatedly land on the 544 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: NFL's radar screen, like the Saints and the Patriots, who 545 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: were wondering what are they gonna do to the Packers here? Right? 546 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: But what do the emails look like between Jeff Passion, 547 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, the CEO of the Packers, how friendly are they? 548 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Is he going to look the other way? Has he 549 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: been looking the other way? And there's no denying it 550 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: when it's in plain sight. He's at press conferences, they 551 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: know he's not vaccinated, and there isn't a mask on 552 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: his face. Preseason games, he was on the sideline, not 553 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: in uniform, no mask. I read the protocol as being 554 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: very clear only active players are exempt from wearing a 555 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: mask during a preseason game if they're not vaccinated, and 556 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: the league's already twisting itself into old pretzel to excuse 557 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: it because they let it happen. That's the real question here. 558 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: They rely on the teams to enforce the COVID protocol. 559 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: But then the league, you know, they can see the 560 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: same press conference as we see. Why wasn't the League 561 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: saying to the Packers, are you finding this guy fifteen 562 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: granda pop for not complying because he clearly went in 563 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: the public eye, was going to keep the masks away 564 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: because he wanted to perpetrate the ruse that he was 565 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: actually vaccinated. And yeah, it's where the Packers enforcing the protocol. 566 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: And was the league asleep at the switch because it 567 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: looks like both were true. Well, it feels like the 568 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: Packers and Rogers were collectively winking at this. That's right. 569 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, we're not going to tell and don't worry, 570 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: and like nobody wants to upset if you know, in particular, 571 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: the Packers don't want to upset him. Like they need 572 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: to fall on the sword here the delicate genius who 573 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: decided seventy two hours before the start of training camp 574 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to retire. You think they're going 575 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: to antagonize him or do you think they're going to 576 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: look the other way if they can? And you know what, 577 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: this is one of those where you do the analysis 578 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: in advance. This is the old saying it's better to 579 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: ask for forgiveness than permission. Let's just keep our mouths 580 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: shut about this, and if it ever hits the fan, 581 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: we'll write the check. We'll deal with it then. But 582 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: we don't want to undermine our very tenuous relationship with 583 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: a guy that we are trying to make feel good 584 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: about us. What better way to make him feel good 585 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: about it than to not hassle him every day about 586 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: wearing a mask, especially when he's in the public eye 587 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: and he wants to be able to advance the false 588 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: narrative that he's actually vaccinated. So it doesn't surprise me 589 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: at all. And that's why the league should be in 590 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: charge of this. Somebody said to me yesterday, somebody one 591 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: of the teams said, you know, the teams aren't expected 592 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: to find the coach when the coach goes to a 593 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: press conference and rips the officiating. The league does it. 594 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: Why isn't the league the one that's intervening and disciplining 595 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: a player when he fails to comply with the COVID protocol. 596 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Who did you have yesterday that you posted about Roger's reaction? 597 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: He was he livid? Or what was the curious? Curious? Curious, curious, curious? 598 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: Now is he furious? Because well, tell me why is 599 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: he furious? Well, he's furious that it got out that 600 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: he's not vaccinated. And you know, Dan, this has been 601 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: an issue for years, and didn't it have to get out, Mike, 602 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: if he's on the COVID list, that people are gonna go, 603 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: are you vaccinated? Well, if he's on the COVID list 604 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: because of a positive, that doesn't necessarily show that he's 605 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: not vaccinated. If you're on the COVID list because of 606 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: a close contact, then you're definitely not vaccinated because if 607 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: you are, you're not knocked out for five days as 608 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: a close contact. But if you're positive, it doesn't matter 609 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: whether you're vaccinated or not. And when you throw on 610 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: top of it that it was the NFL's media conglomerate 611 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: that reported that he isn't vaccinated, and the league is 612 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: NFL media. An NFL media is the league. I'm just 613 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to anticipate what his next appearance with Pat 614 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: McAfee is going to sound like, what his next press 615 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: conference with a mask on, I assume is going to 616 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: sound like. And he's gonna be looking for somebody to blame. 617 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: Look the books out on this guy. I'm sorry, one 618 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks of all time, but we know 619 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: how he is. He wants to blame somebody, and I 620 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: can see him fashioning an argument that he had the 621 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: right to lie to all of us about being vaccinated. 622 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: He had the right to choose to that secret, and 623 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been outed by the league. Wow, I 624 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: mentioned I can't wait, must see TV. Get your popcorn 625 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: the next time he talks Dan Jordan Loved. Do you 626 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: want him to play great or bad for the story? 627 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: I think this story is better if he plays incredibly well. 628 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: Isn't it that makes it more likely the Packers move 629 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: on from Aaron Rodgers after But if he doesn't play 630 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: well and you know Rogers is likely to move on 631 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: and Jordan Love is not your future, oh that could 632 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: be awkward. Well, then that proves his point from all along. 633 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Why in the world did you trade up in round 634 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: one to draft a quarterback when we had other more 635 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: immediate needs that would have maybe helped us win the 636 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. Hey, I don't rule out, and 637 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: I've learned through twenty years of doing this you have 638 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: to be ready for everything, and the thing that you 639 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: aren't ready for is the thing that will happen. We 640 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: haven't heard a word from Aaron Rodgers in the two 641 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: days since this hit the fan. Not a pet, not 642 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: a tweet, not a word, not a thing, not a statement, nothing. Well, 643 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: what if this is the thing that causes him to say, 644 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: I've had enough of this crab. I've had enough of 645 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: dealing with this league. I've had enough of dealing with 646 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: this team. I've had enough of dealing with this game. 647 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm done. I'm not saying it's going to happen, 648 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be amazing if that's what he decides 649 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: to do, just walks away in middle of the season 650 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: because he's pissed off that he got outed for being unvaccinated. Again, 651 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: very small chance of it happening, But if you don't 652 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: account for it, that's when it happens. Maybe maybe I 653 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said it, Maybe I don't say it. It It happens. 654 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: But I've got everything's on the table for me on 655 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: this day, and I can't wait to hear what he 656 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: has to say. Would you put him in front of 657 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: the media, Well, he has to be, I mean, he 658 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: has to be and now should he? Should he speak now? 659 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: I just feel like, and Peter King said this earlier 660 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: day on PFT Live, the silence is deafening. And what 661 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: happens is when you choose not to speak in the 662 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: aftermath of something like this, you allow everyone else to 663 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: create the narrative. And the narrative is he's a big 664 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: fat liar. So if you've got an explanation, and I 665 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: hope he doesn't try to parse words and say that 666 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: immunized means something other than vaccinated. I mean, I've watched 667 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: that clip. You've seen that clip. Are you vaccinated? Yeah? 668 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: I've been immunized, And I'm not going to judge my 669 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: teammates who aren't vaccinated. I mean, he's telling the world 670 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: he's vaccinated by saying it that way, and if he 671 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: tries to navigate the words, that's not going to help him. 672 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm ready to have an open 673 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: mind whatever his explanation is. But The longer he waits, 674 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: the harder it's going to be to turn everything around. 675 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Mike. Thanks Dan,