1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The volume. All my mind was that I'm gonna make 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: this record with jay Z. That's all I was thinking about. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this record with jay Z. I ain't 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: know what the record's gonna be, but I'm like, I'm 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: gonna make this record with jay Z. And long story short, 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: he came to Atlanta and I went to pick him up. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: And when I'm when I'm driving to the airport to 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: pick him up, I'm listening to he Can't Knocked the Hustle. 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: And when he say deep in the South kicking up 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: top game, I'm like, he's talking about me? Who is 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: he talking about? I'm rying, I'm thinking he talking about me. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: And he says, switching frow lane. I'm switching them. By 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: the way, I'm in a I'm in a Bentley. So 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: as soon as he come out of the airport, I say, oh, 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm a sample this part. This is gonna be our song. 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: And he was like, all right, it's Joe Crack the 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: motherfucking Dawn shr boy kiss you know what it is? 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: Did Joe and Jada show this is a special edition 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: right here? 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: He got an historic. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: Legendary hip hop pillar in the building with no further 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: ado ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: Jermaine Duprix. 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 4: Hold up, hold up, because this ain't a regular show, guys. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: This is royalty. This is not even this. This this 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: is a fucking pyramid. You know what I'm saying. It's 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 4: a whole pyramid of Egypt sitting. I'm telling you the truth. 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: I ain't say one night. I couldn't sleep last night, 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying because I was so excited. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: I mean, we love all our guests, but this is 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: a different He's got the blue Lee roy gloss. 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: This is royalty. This is royalty right here. 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: So you know, JD, it's an honor to have you 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: on the Joe and Jadas show taking the chance with 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: our little podcast. You know, we the rookies of the 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: year most likely to succeed. But thank you for coming up. 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Shit, my brother, you already know we we're gonna We're 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: gonna give a little We're gonna go on a little 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: time cat absolution for the people that might not know, 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: because you know, were living in a time where you 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: have knowledge right in your hand. But some people prefer 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: to look up shoes and look up some bullshit instead 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: of getting some knowledge from now you stopped attending school 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: in middle school to go on tour, Just talk a 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: little bit about what that experience was like for some 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: people that might not know what going on tour is 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: and for just a young ass kid stop in middle 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: school to go on toll what what was that even like. 49 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, i't actually know that's what was happening. Let 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: me just just was going like I was dancing. So, 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, the fresh Fest was the first time they 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: ever had a fresh Fest anywhere. That was in Atlanta, 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: and they had run DMC and all of them. This 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: is the first shows on Atlanta. Shout out to Ricky Walker. 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: He was a person who actually created the fresh fan. 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Fresh Fest is obviously that boys Wi Curtis Blow, Grandma 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Aster Flash. 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: This was the first rap to appearance the Goldens. It 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: has never been an error better than this, according to me. 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: But I mean, just my opinion. I always feel like, 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: you know, when people start these debates, I'll be like, yo, 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: that is it. 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: Those are the pioneers there. But Dad, you you was 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: a dancing you made it on tour. Yeah, so they 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: had they also had a you know, the Dynamic Breakers, 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: the New York City breakers. They had all these breaking 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: crews on there as well, so it's like dancing and rapping. 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: But they needed an opener. This was at a time 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: when you know they need an opener. You don't get 70 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: no money. You just go out and waist and spurning 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the time off. It was still like that in ninety three. 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Ahead that's so so I'm like cool, I ain't tripping. 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm twelve years old, so I don't care. 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm going on stage. This is the first time I 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: ever seen this many people in the arena. They gave 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: me opportunity to go out there and do like probably 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: had like three minutes just me dancing. That's a long time, 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: by the way, dancing. You ain't got no routine. 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: You just like I can't believe they had cameras back then, 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: Like they got you dancing in some of them ships, 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: like on the camera. 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: You know how fight who that ship is right now? BC, 83 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: I've seen you. 84 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: Dancing, I've seen you personally. But hip hop? How would 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: you get hip hop in Atlanta? Because he in New 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: York it was it was only not even it was 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: it was regular once a week and missed the magic 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: and then awesome too. 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Overnight. 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: How do you get the new ship? How did you 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 4: get the new music, the new hip hop that was 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: coming down? How did it get to the atl Well, it. 93 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Wasn't there when I said this was this was this 94 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: was prey all at you know what I mean. So 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: how you dancing? Like how you know them? I mean 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: breaking anywhere? Yeah? Breaking was, well, you're watching Breaking, You're 97 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: watching you know, B Street streeting these movies. But I 98 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: was doing talent shows, you know what I mean. So 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: I started doing talent shows. I was doing Michael Jackson 100 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: and the talent shows. So Michael Jackson routine be like 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: two men that you could do two man of Michael 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville team. I started doing Michael Jackson and then I 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: started paying attention to hip hop and I seen like, 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: oh I can add this, I can add this. I 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: just started learning things, but I still won't like great. 106 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: I just was good because I was twelve, right, you know, 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: little kids, they get away with it past right, the 108 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: go ahead, He's like a clown at the circus, you 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, go ahead and do what 110 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you gotta do. So I was winning talent shows and 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: that's what happens. So I started winning all these little 112 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: talent shows around my you know, around Atlanta, or I 113 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: come in second place or whatever it is. And so 114 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: they was like, you know, it's like yo, let him. 115 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: Let him go out there and do what you gotta do. 116 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: So I went up on the stage and I did 117 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: my perfect little time. I got off. I wasn't tripping, 118 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They made him hit their time, 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: and they was like, you know what, we need to 120 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: keep somebody to do this, and I'm like, you know 121 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: what I mean? And I wasn't even paying attention to 122 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: everything they came with it because I didn't I didn't 123 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: know nothing about me getting out of school and all this. 124 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I tried to do the right way, but this was 125 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: so early in life. Atlanta had never had an artist 126 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: that would go on tour at twelve years old, so 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: we didn't even have a school system thing that was 128 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: set up where they could take my grades and while 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: I was on the road and count them as credits. 130 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I did all the work, and I had 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: a tutor, and we tried to do it. But when 132 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: I came back, they was like, we can't accept this. 133 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: You gotta do it. You got to do that grade again. 134 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh nah no. And after that I had 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: already been to fifty cities at twelve, so I was like, 136 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: oh no, I'm done. I'm done. I got I gotta 137 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: figure this out. I gotta figure it out. So then 138 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the second year I wasn't in the Fresh festal three years, 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: eighty forty five and eighty six and then eighty six 140 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: is when I started rapping. I added a rapping to it. 141 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: And by then it was a guy in a Lanta 142 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: named Shadi who was actually from the Bronx, who was 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: actually he came to Atlanta. 144 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: He started bringing he's got mad. Every time they mention 145 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: the Bronx on the show. He might be a slight 146 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: it might be a slight. 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: Hand, just anything for the bro stool was from the Bronx. 148 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: And you guys, what do you want me to do? 149 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Was from the Bronx. Yes, so he you know, so 150 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: so shot. He came. He started, you know, he introduced 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: me to what the Zulu Nation was, all of this, 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know hip hop, right, but I couldn't wrap. I 153 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: still couldn't do it. But he's taught me how to 154 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: like write my rap. So he wrote my first rap 155 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: when I was on the on the fresh face, and 156 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: I started doing the rap and performing, you know, performing 157 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: a rap. And then that's when the you know the 158 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: rest of the guys, who Denny and all of them, 159 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: they start seeing that I was more into that than dancing. 160 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: So then Jamster J taught me how to DJ like real, 161 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: like really hands on. You heard that, Yeah, And then 162 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: m Grandmaster D starts showing me tricks, and I just 163 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: started learning from the best, like, you know, jam Master J. Man, 164 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: he taught me a lot, you know. 165 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: And when I was coming up and you know, I 166 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: had a little flow Joor, I ain't never want to 167 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: lead the Bronx, And he kept talking to me, Yo, 168 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: you ever been to Detroit? 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: You ever been in Chicago? You ever been? 170 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: He was trying to tell you need to get out 171 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: there at Jose. You only want to be in the 172 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: Bronx and so rest in peace. Yeah, man's the Jay. 173 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: So I wanted to get back to this one thing 174 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: when hip hop came to Atlanta. 175 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: How did he get to Atlanta? 176 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: The migration the migration of Almos from Texas, and Premo 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: said his cousins used to drive over there with take 178 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: to mister Magic and Red Alurn I'm just trying. 179 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: To it's not so Yeah. Basically, it was like the 180 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: migration of a lot of New Yorkers start coming to Atlanta. 181 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, Shadias from New York. So it seemed 182 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: like more and more New Yorkers start coming to Atlanta. 183 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: And then you start seeing like little parties and these 184 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: pop up that was like, oh, this is hip hop. 185 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: But then it was also like the artist was coming, right, 186 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: the artists were coming. More and more artists was coming 187 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Then they had a dance show in Atlanta 188 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: that was only our local dance show, right, and it 189 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: just you know how it was coming in. And we 190 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: still only had a radio station, which was V one 191 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of three days only. 192 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: Rapped there Jack the Rap. That's the first time I 193 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: ever been in any ship like that. 194 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: So we have, you know, once the station they only 195 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: play hip hop on Friday night for an hour. Yeah 196 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: that's how I go So on that Friday night and 197 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: that hour, I was right there. 198 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: Like they don't understand. They got the ship on their 199 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: phone like like water. 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: You used to have to stay up, you used to 201 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: have to be on point there rap. I'll never forget 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: how Cali dropped Wow. Wow, wow. 203 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: On the Thursday Friday, I was like in Paris somewhere 204 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 4: at the show and they threw that ship on in 205 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: the whole crowd. 206 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: I was like wow, wow, Wow. 207 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, it makes you think about 208 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: what you only heard hip hop on a Friday and Saturday. 209 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, ship, this ship across the world 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: in one day. 211 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 3: But at that time we have to look for it, right, 212 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: the tissue and the tape over the cassette. 213 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh then. 214 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: You know me, You know, I grew up in the 215 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: Bronx and so you know my guys man, you know 216 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: my guys. We had like a public phone in front 217 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: of the building, and they used to break the public 218 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: phone and use electricity to put the boombox. So the 219 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: bigger guys shout out to a j GP Craig o 220 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: rest in peace, my brother. They used to put the 221 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: boom box up and then they played an awesome two 222 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: that was at four in the morning. 223 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Ship like that. 224 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: So I would be a kid out the window listening 225 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: to the ship overnight. Like they would play whole other 226 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: kind of music, underground music that they wouldn't played with 227 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: Red Alert. So they was like mister before yes, they 228 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: were Yes, they were. 229 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: And then so see I so in eighty six I 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: met Chad Elliott. Chad Elliott was part of Charles Steller cruise. 231 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: And when when when the Fat Boys won that contest 232 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: and Crush Groove, Chad came in second place. Yep, he 233 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: came in second place, right, So they put so Chad 234 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: st I mean, Chad Steller was like, we need to 235 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: put this kid on the two of y'all, Jermaine on 236 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: the tour, right, So then they worked out for Chad 237 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: to get on the tour as well. So then me 238 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: and Chad met and we you know what I mean, 239 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: we hit it off and then we started hanging out. 240 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: And then I moved to Brooklyn with him and stayed 241 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: at his house on Eastern Parkway. And that's when I started, 242 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: like the page caught. 243 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: You know, I was a kid, Uh, I never forget 244 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: I was a kid. And my aunt, my grand my godmother, 245 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: she lived in Brooklyn on the East New York and Summit. 246 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: She had a little house. But I remember the kids. 247 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: I used to spend all summers in Brooklyn and the 248 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: kids was like, yo, come and we went to the projects. 249 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: And they had a jam and they played this record 250 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: and I guess I grew up. I just didn't know, right. 251 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: But but they played this record where I actually walked 252 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 4: up to the DJ and what and it was so 253 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: os man, it. 254 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Was baby, we can do it. It's a good time. 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: And I was just like that ship must have hit 256 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 4: every endorphin and those like I was like a kid, 257 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: but I was like, yo, what the fuck is this? 258 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: Like this ship is crazy. I felt like it was 259 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: only a Brooklyn thing, right, But you and Brooklyn, you 260 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: caught everything. 261 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: You was here, you called it and I learned. I learned, 262 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: like what was the difference between where I where I, 263 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, in Atlanta and New York. Immediately they was 264 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: breaking me with everything I had on you know what 265 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean. They was telling me I was looking like 266 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: a country boone. There was you know, niggas in East 267 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: New York. Was saying, well, they don't care, and I 268 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: was going to do the same way. They don't give 269 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: a fuck. They talk about your mom's walking in and 270 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I got chased by theseptics and all that. So you 271 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: was outside outside. He was fast too. If you have 272 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: to get away from. 273 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 4: The thing, yeah, at what point, uh it goes down? 274 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: Because me personally, right this is something I'm gonna go 275 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: to my my deathbed with. 276 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 277 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: Twenty something years ago, I moved to Miami right and 278 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: every time I go to ATL I argue with myself 279 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: that I make the right thing. Should I have moved 280 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: to the ATL. I feel so at home in the atl. 281 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: They mus got a lot of restaurants. 282 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: Nah, we love the restaurants. It's just, you know, I 283 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: love black people. I love the entrepreneurism. I love that 284 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: they all just help each other. The vibe is great, 285 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: you know, the weather's everything. Just every time I go 286 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: to Ato, I argue with. 287 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: Myself, like I just be like, damn, I was off 288 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: for me here. Huh, it's hard for you. I keep 289 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: it standing in my stage at me when I forever. 290 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, too more ags, you need 291 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: too more as That makes me think I should fucking 292 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: got a outeam. 293 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: What's up? Y'all? 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So I had I had a 327 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: group prior that was called Silk Times Leather that was 328 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: these two girls. It was called White Silk Times Leather, 329 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Silk Times Level, Silk Times Leather. Yeah. They actually were 330 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: the girlfriends of Houdini that I met on tour, right, So, 331 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: so I met them when we was on tour and 332 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: they was like, we're from Atlanta and I'm like from Atlanta. 333 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: So I was young, and I'm like, shit, y'all can 334 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: come pick me up, you know what I mean, Like 335 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, y'all could come drive around. I'm like, oh, 336 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: I got some girls that I can hang out with 337 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: now Atlanta. You know, That's what I'm thinking in my mind. 338 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: And then I think Herbie had just put out Salt 339 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: and Pepper, so this was like girls that was paying 340 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: attention to this, and some kind of way, we start 341 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: having a conversation and I never produced a record in 342 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: my life, and the girls was like, you know, we 343 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: want to do what Salt and Pepper doing, and I'm like, 344 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: you should let me produce you. I never did it. 345 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why I even said it, but as you, 346 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: but just was paying attention to what Herbie was doing 347 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: and it seemed interesting. So I started really paying attention 348 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: to what he was doing. I'm like, oh, he writing 349 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: the raps, he making the beats, all of this, and 350 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I could do it. So I started trying 351 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: to do it, and I did it good enough where 352 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: I got them a deal. They got signed to Geffing Records. Right, 353 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: so they actually was the first rap group in Atlanta 354 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: to have a real major record deal. 355 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 4: Wow, you pulled that off. And then you and then 356 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: you go into Chris Cross. 357 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Chris. So we didn't really have a lot 358 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: of success, but we had enough success where I got 359 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, I got fifteen thousand dollars so I could 360 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: get some real equipment and I had a dolphin. So 361 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: when I got my real equipment, that's when I started 362 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: making better beats and start getting more and more into it. 363 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Then one day me and the DJ, it was a 364 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: female named Dola Mix, We went to Green Brown Mall 365 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: and they had an article and Jet magazine about the 366 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: female rappers at that particular point in time, and one 367 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: of the Christians seen one of the Christi's moms saw 368 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: Dolar Mix and was like, I know that girl. I 369 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: just read about her, right, But I seen the kids 370 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: and they was walking around the mall and people was 371 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: paying attention to them, and I'm like me, I'm like, 372 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: why don't I don't know these niggas. I'm thinking they like, 373 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: you know, they must be on the Disney Channel or 374 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: something like like why is people acting like this? So 375 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: I keep watching them move around, moving around, they going 376 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: in foot locker, They're going to foot action, they doing 377 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: all the rap shit. I'm like, who is this? And 378 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: girls is giving them free cookies at the cooking company 379 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, I'm walking around watching them before 380 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm in there. So I'm like finally walk up to him. 381 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, who are y'all? And I was like, 382 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: what do y'all do? They like, we don't do nothing. 383 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, why y'all? Get why they're giving y'all ship 384 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and listen tomorrow? They like cause we're fresh. And I'm like, 385 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: oh wait, what what? I'm like, do y'all rap? And 386 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: they was like rap? They said that to me, like 387 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: when raped. That's how they said it. To me, and 388 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, and my mind just start going crazy, Like 389 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: if these niggas rap based on what they got going on, 390 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: it's over with right. So then I got their number 391 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: and luckily they mom vouched because she's like, he's somebody 392 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: because I know that girl that's with him, right. She didn't, 393 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: she hadn't put it all together, but she you know 394 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. She had one of the New Jack's 395 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: City moments with dudes like YO, I know that dude, right, 396 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: So that's what she was doing. She was like, I 397 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: know him. So I got the number and I started 398 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: calling him like Yo, y'all, come over my house. We're 399 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna start making music. There was like come over your house, 400 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they was really on 401 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: some you know little hood boys. That was like, we 402 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: ain't going over this nigga house, like while we going 403 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: over his house. So I had to get I had 404 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: to convince them. So I had to go pick them 405 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: up from school every day and like become their homie 406 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: like and let them see like I'm really fucking with y'all, 407 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. So we start kicking 408 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: it and I start like driving watching them in the 409 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: back seat and I'll play records and I'll play a 410 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: record like ice Cube. But someone was crazy at the time, 411 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: and they was back there rapping the lyrics like they 412 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: wrote them. They know this shit. They ain't never seen 413 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: the lyrics before. They know it. They like rapping it, 414 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: like they really rapping it. And I'm thinking, like, damn 415 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: if I write a song for them and it sounds 416 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: good like they think it was ice Cube and they 417 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: learned it like this, they got just gotta work right. 418 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: So I just start trying to figure out how that 419 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: was going to happen. You know. I wrote so many 420 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: songs that they hated and I never got that reaction. 421 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: I just had to keep going, keep going, keep going, 422 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: keep going. And then I wrote this song called Little 423 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood and they liked it because of 424 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: this concept, like I finally got to where they wanted. Okay, 425 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: now you're talking about we want to talk about So 426 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to do like kiddy shit at first, 427 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, and they started telling me about 428 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: how they you know, and they school kids twelve years 429 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: old walking around with these socks, and these socks was 430 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: doubled up because they had cracking them something you know 431 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I started hearing all these stories 432 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: about these little kids in the hood. So I'm like, 433 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: you know what, when they be doing the news, they 434 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: don't never talk about what the kids have to go through, 435 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: what they see, right, So I start trying to write 436 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: about that based on what I was hearing them say, 437 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: and from the deal that I had with Silk Tom's Leather. 438 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I had met this engineer named Joe the Butcher who 439 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: actually owned rough House Records in Philly. Right, So that's 440 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: the only person I knew in the music industry that 441 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: I could call and be like, I got a project, right. 442 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: So I did The Little Boys in the Hood, and 443 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I sent it to Joe and he was like, yeah, 444 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: I want to sign him. And I'm like, oh shit, 445 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: we going you know what I mean, I got it right, 446 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: So he gave us a development deal. It wasn't a 447 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: real record deal. It was a development deal to see 448 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: if we can make some better records. And like the 449 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: night before we had to go to Philly to do 450 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: like record these songs I wrote jump. I knew it 451 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: when I like in the first twenty nine to thirty seconds, 452 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, if they pulled us off, this old. Yeah. 453 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: Second, you know you hear that shit? You just like, yo, 454 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: this shit is this shit jumping? Whose idea wasn't for 455 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: them to wear that close backwards mine? Because, like left 456 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 4: I was living at my house at the time. 457 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: This is what I want to talk about. This is 458 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: what I want to talk Like left I had came 459 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: to my house as a as a rapper from Philly, 460 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: and she was from Philly originally, Yeah, she's from Philly. 461 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: And she met this guy named Ian Burt. And Ian 462 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: was like the only guy in Atlanta that I knew 463 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: that was like moving around. He was like an an 464 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: R manager slash. He was everything right. And if you 465 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: knew Ian, Ian connect you to somebody else. So then 466 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Ian called me one day he was like, Yo, I 467 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: met this girl from Philly. She rapped. She a young girl. 468 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it to your house. He brought her 469 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: to my house. I liked the way she rapped, but 470 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: I was trying to do the crisscross thing. But I 471 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm gonna fuck with you when I 472 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: get through this. I ain't have no deal. But I 473 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: had all these people believing that I was gonna do it. 474 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: So left I was staying at my house without my 475 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: mom even knowing left. I was like living in my 476 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: closet because she ain't really had no place to stay, 477 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: so she was staying over there. And one of the 478 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: songs I did for Crisscross, I sampled Michael Jackson and 479 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Paul McCart uh the Girl is Mine right, And I 480 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: was thinking, like I could make a song about y'all 481 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: arguing about Lisa, and that Lisa was gonna rap about 482 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: shit right, and that idea I had, but it never 483 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: came to life. I kept getting I couldn't you know 484 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: what I mean? But I never couldn't figure it out, 485 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: and my writing was terrible at that time. 486 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: Question I have for you, who's an artist that you 487 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 4: slept on and became a big boy or big girl 488 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: in the game that you you wasn't ready or things 489 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: wasn't right. They tried, like, you know, Eminem gave me 490 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: his demo six times, and you know, we ain't never 491 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: seen no white boy pop off like that, so I 492 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: guess I was sleeping, you know. After he blew up, 493 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: I went to dinner with him. He was like, you know, 494 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: I gave you my demo six times, and I was 495 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 4: like what, And he told me everywhere. He gave it 496 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: to me at who's an artist that you could have signed? 497 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: And you was like, damn, or you wish you. 498 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Could have signed? Well, I mean I tried to sign Ludicris, 499 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: but I had I had an office full of employees, right, 500 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: and at this point in time, I was feeling like 501 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: my office felt like I was controlling everything. So I 502 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: went there one day and try to have an an 503 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: arm and I asked him about Luthera Chris and they 504 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: all said no. And I try to go with what 505 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: my office was saying. You know what I'm saying. I try. 506 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, this is what you're supposed to do. This 507 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: is you got to let the people in the office work. 508 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: They was like, nah, JD, don't sign him, and I'm like, well, 509 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: you know what, they probably slept on him because he 510 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: started in the radio. Nah. But I had already I 511 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: did something for Madden. So the first Madden game with music, 512 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: I did it right, and they called me and they 513 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: was asking me. They asked me flex with the silence on. 514 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: They asked me for somebody to rap on it that 515 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: was animated, right, And I'm like, well, I'm not animated 516 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: like this. But Chris was doing these radio things, right, 517 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: and I heard him. I kept hearing him do these 518 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: radio commercials. He was really really animated, right, And I said, Chris, 519 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: come do this Madden, this little Madden thing I'm doing 520 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: for the video game. And that was the first time 521 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: me and Chris worked together. But he wanted me to 522 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: and I wanted to sign him. You know, you know 523 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: what's crazy. There's this guy who does commercials, but he 524 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: don't wrap. You don't be hearing them. He'll be like 525 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: one eight hundred, you crash your car, top dog, y'all. 526 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: I love this guy. 527 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: Man, I don't have no clue of who is. 528 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: Commercial. 529 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: I turn it up like, I'll be hearing you crashed 530 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: your gun. You girl like your leg is sideways top 531 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: one hundred to get you here, I'll be like, Yo, 532 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: this dude is crazy. So I know what you're saying. 533 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: Saluda Chris. 534 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: Right. 535 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 4: At what point it turned from hip hop to R 536 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: and B to theft. 537 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Right after no Right, we got right after Chris Crush, 538 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: the explosion of Chris Crush. Right. 539 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: I was just like, well, we got the Brat, we 540 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 4: got Chris crossed, we got bow Wow, we got rush Yer, 541 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 4: we got Mariah, we got Boom Crushing, We got me listen. 542 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: So after after Chris Crushed, I didn't want to be 543 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: labeled as a one producer, right, So I was like, 544 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: I got to do an R and B project after 545 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: Chris Crust success. I didn't know if it was gonna work. 546 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: This's the first time I ever did it, but I 547 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: just knew that that's what I wanted to do. I 548 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: didn't want to be put in the box. So Escape 549 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: Project was the first album R and B record that 550 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: I had ever written, a producer or anything. And brought 551 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: them girls to my house and yard down to the Escape. 552 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you hear something, just yo, bro. You know I 553 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: used to be scared to fly. So I used to 554 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: drive everywhere to Miami, to everywhere. 555 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: And so I got a certain kind of like respect 556 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 4: for certain groups because you know, it get hard on 557 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 4: that Non five around South Carolina. When you start seeing 558 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: Padro and Ship, they'd be like Paidro and you gotta escape. 559 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Man. They got me through a lot of drives. That 560 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: Escape was different. So you so escape you wrote on 561 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: that shit? Yeah, so I'm saying I was taking still 562 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: from hip hop, like kick off you Shoes and relation feet. 563 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: That was run DM c line. I just was doing 564 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: what I thought. I mean, you ever wrote you ever? 565 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: You ever wrote an R and B song? No? 566 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 4: I never wrote an R and B song. I never 567 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: like I never. 568 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: Had I he just he just doro it down. I 569 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: can do. Sometimes. 570 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 4: Beyonce has some witty lyrics where I'd be like, yo, 571 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: Jay must have been writing that studio and gave all 572 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: bar Like I hear it all the time in her 573 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: music where I'm just like she's talking that ship. 574 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: I said, oh whole must have been in that studio, 575 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: gave her a bar. You know. 576 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: It's just you know, but it's something I always wanted 577 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 4: to do because I'm a lover, not a fighter. 578 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: Be I mean, like I said, if you take it, 579 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: if you just listen to it, it's the same thing. Ultimately, 580 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: you just have to figure out the melody. But other 581 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: than the melody, writing rap and writing a song is 582 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: pretty much the same. 583 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: You know, the face goes down to the at Oh right, 584 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: they're not from there, right like Babyfaces where from Indiana, 585 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: and but they set up Shot they fell in love 586 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: with atl but they let everybody work with the artists 587 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: they signed, you know, even go to you go to 588 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: Rico Wade go to Dallas, Austin. Right, and so what 589 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 4: are some of the songs you wrote for TLC? Another 590 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: artist that wasn't actually your artist, but. 591 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: CLC was my group first before they even signed in 592 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: the face another one like you know you remember Left, 593 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: I was at my house, right, I brought I brought 594 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Ti on to my house and then they met at 595 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: my house and they was called Second Nature before they 596 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: was called TLC. And I would have Now, this is 597 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: what I do regret. I regret my mind not moving 598 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: fast enough because if I could have had to see 599 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: and Chris Crutch at the same time. But I ain't. 600 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: I ain't. I was too young to know to learning 601 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: the game. I ain't know. I know what I'm saying. 602 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: And I was God's timing too, to believe it or not. 603 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: It was like it wasn't for you like that. You 604 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It was God's timing. 605 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I had so much energy for the guys. I wasn't 606 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: giving the girls a lot of energy. And they went 607 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: and had that conversation with Pebbles and they was like, 608 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, they had a meeting. So if you see 609 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: the TLC movie on VAH one, when Left, I make 610 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: this phone call. She called me in that movie. I 611 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: saw that. Yeah they cut me out, but they no, no, no. 612 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: But I saw that movie. Yeah, she called me to 613 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: be like JD, they want to sign us, what you 614 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: want to do? And when she said that, I could 615 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: have been like, nah, I got y'all, let's do this, 616 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: but I was I started thinking like a producer. I 617 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: start thinking like, shit, if they get signed, I could 618 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: do a bunch of songs on their album, right instead 619 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: of just trying to hold them and be like, let 620 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: them sign on my label. So I was like, go ahead, 621 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: do the deal. So they first album, I did a 622 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: song called I Could Do Bad by Myself. On the 623 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: second album is when I did more and more work 624 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: with TLC than I ever did. But really, really a 625 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of that me working with the Face came from 626 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Usher's second album, My Way album. I did the whole 627 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: album basically another one, and so Usher was up here. 628 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: So I remember when he was all around New York 629 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: as a kid. They snuck him in the clubs, everything 630 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: that but a ship with I forget what what was 631 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: out choice chose? But they also had like hip hop 632 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: I think was it Black Rob's Woe is it too. 633 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: That was. 634 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: Because I'm trying to tell you there's only very few 635 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: records like Black Rob's Woe or Balling by Jim Jones. 636 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: There was very few records when I was in the 637 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 4: club that just everybody lost their mind. And I remember 638 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: meeting Usher for the first time as a kid at 639 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: the club here and they had something out there that 640 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: was stupid, and I remember it in I was like, damn. 641 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: And that was But any case, this was party in 642 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: bullshit days back then. This was he's going back before 643 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: you talking about I know, I know, I know. 644 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: I'm just like I remember USh as a kid out 645 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: here in New York is seeing them morning over. Yeah, 646 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: but this guy show the second album. So you sit 647 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 4: down with Usher and and and you said, y'all, I'm 648 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: gonna make a classic. 649 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: No, no, I don't say that. What you said, I 650 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen. You're gonna make some music. Actually, 651 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: I actually don't know what's gonna happen. I just know that, 652 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: you know. I think they tried to make an album 653 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: with Dallas. They tried to make an album with Puff 654 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: and and the album that they wanted for his second record. 655 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: It didn't work. So they actually tell me that they 656 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: was they was on the verge of dropping him if 657 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: it didn't work with me. Right, I ain't know this though. 658 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: I start hearing this after the fact, so you know. 659 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: But there was like, you know, we want you to 660 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: do what you did with Chris Cross with us. We 661 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: want you to take him to your house, you know 662 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, make him your artist. And I was like, 663 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: all right, I never did this before with the R 664 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: and B. I never produced nobody male R and B. 665 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know what the song's gonna sound like. 666 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: I did his skate, but I ain't never do it 667 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: with a mail artist, So I ain't know what the 668 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: song is gonna sound like. So he came, we start kicking, 669 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: I start talking, and I start figuring out, Okay, he 670 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: just like Chriss Krust, almost like he pick up instantly. 671 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: If he love it, he really get it, you know 672 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm like, okay, if I write 673 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 1: songs to him that he loved, he gonna sing it. 674 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: He gonna sing it. Was all right, But I still 675 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: was writing songs like raps seven o'clock on the blot, 676 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: only my drop top cruise in the streets theesu is 677 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: rap lyrics in the streets when you're talking about all these. 678 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: Kids stars, like something that keeps maybe because it's you, 679 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: but something that keeps popping up to me is Monica. 680 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: She was just a young girl out there and she saying, 681 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: like the bread. 682 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm not saying we got the Brad, we got too 683 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: much shop to talk about, but I'm just she quitch, 684 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: do you. 685 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Want to go and. 686 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: Go ahead about the Brad, go ahead with the mony. 687 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: I'm just saying Monica was a little girl with a 688 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: big voice, and she became a superstar just like that. 689 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: First did you know, like when when you she was 690 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: Dallas artist, I know, yeah, yeah, I was breaking a 691 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: lot of bread down there. I knew, I knew she 692 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: was hot. I knew she had it, and she was 693 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: like she was a ghetto girl that Dallas was trying 694 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: to take into the Whitney Houston space, and she had 695 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: the voice to go into that space. Not I don't 696 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: nobody take it wrong. 697 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 4: No, no, no, she was she had the voice to 698 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 4: go there. 699 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about that. But I never I 700 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: never thought I would work with her either. I didn't 701 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: have no idea I ever worked with one what joints 702 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: you did for Monica? I did the first night. That 703 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: was the first time I ever did the first night, y'all. 704 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, boy, this this at l 705 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 4: Royalty is that Let's go to the Brat. 706 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: I love the Brat. That's my sister. 707 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: Let's go to the brat. Let's go to the brat. 708 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 4: First female to sell a million records? 709 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: Wrap up? 710 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 4: So the Brat situation, how do you find the brat 711 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: from Chicago? 712 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So Brat Brat met Chris Crouss when they 713 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: was on their second tour. They was on there was 714 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: on another tour after they went on to Michael Jackson. 715 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: It was on another tour, right, So they went on. 716 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: They went on a tour and they had like what's 717 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: his name ed Lover and from another raps doctor Love, 718 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: like the host of the tour, and they call people 719 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: up on the stage a rap as an intermission between 720 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, uh, I think MC light and Chris CRUs Us, right, 721 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: because they had to put em light at the opening 722 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: for them, and my mom's just passed away. I love 723 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: you like looking legend. Brat came on the stage and 724 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: rap and I wasn't there, and they called me right 725 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: after lights because I remember, like yesterday he called me 726 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: like yo's female rapper, she went crazy in Chicago, And 727 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care about no female rappers, Like, 728 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: don't nobody like female rappers. Just what I'm saying, like 729 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: this one, no female rappers popping off beside salt and pepper, 730 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: like and then like street fashion of us driving around, 731 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: we want to listen to those female rappers on our cars. 732 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Like that just wasn't what's happening. So I just like nah, 733 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: And I thought like me messing with the female rapper 734 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be the first time that my little success 735 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: story was gonna go wrong, because I was like, I 736 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: just yeah, I just did Chris Cruz, I did escape, 737 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: and I was you know what I'm saying. I was 738 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: moving and I was just like, nah, female rapp I 739 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: can't do it. So but I but he kept pushing me, 740 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, tell her to come 741 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. She came to Atlanta and she told me 742 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: to come to the hotel and meet her. I went 743 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: to the hotel like the meetera and like to have 744 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: a conversation with her, and I'm like, I'm gonna take 745 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: you to my house, and that's what my studio was. 746 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: So I'm driving her from downtown Atlanta the College Park 747 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: and I stopped and get gas. And I stopp and 748 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: get gas. I go on the gas station. I come back. 749 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: She put her tape in the car while I was 750 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: inside the gas station place paying. I came back, turned 751 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: the car and the tape start going and I'm like, 752 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: what the fuck is who is this rapping? And it 753 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: was her? And I was like, wait, wait, who is 754 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: this rapping? And the way she was rapping on the tape, 755 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, she was not playing. No, 756 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: she wasn't playing. She was really rapping, like coming for 757 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: This wasn't the type of rap I thought. This was. Like, 758 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: she was really rapping, like really Chicago style, like Twister 759 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: and all of that, like that type of sh and 760 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's you. 761 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 4: And she's like, also, you was producing like West Coast 762 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 4: sounding beats for the Brat. 763 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I hadn't started what he was about. I 764 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: don't know what I was gonna be. Yeah, I didn't 765 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: know what I was gonna do. So I took it 766 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: in my house. I'm like, I like you, I'm gonna 767 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: sign you and honestly, Brat project was like the hardest 768 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: project for me because I couldn't I couldn't find that 769 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: thing yet I couldn't find and make a song. And 770 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: I played for people and that was like yeah, whatever, whatever, 771 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: And then I just started paying attention to who she was. 772 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: Like she would be outside my house and like it 773 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: was cold, so we're like take all the like all 774 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: the water out of the swim pool, and she would 775 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: go down in the swim pool and smoke weed because 776 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: she couldn't smoke in my house. She is down in 777 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: the pool smoking and I started realizing like, oh, she 778 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: like she a female, like like a little snoop dog, 779 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: Like she smoked reed like chain smoking anybody, like really 780 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: by herself. And I'm like, we should put this into music. 781 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: And I just start seeing like this was what was happening. 782 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: It's you know, and I mean, I'm influenced by what's 783 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: going on in hip hop, so it ain't you know 784 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I saw, you know, I'm listening 785 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: to Dre, I'm listening to what's going on, and I'm 786 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: listening to Snoop Snoopers doing this thing, and it was 787 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: kind of like it wasn't like because because the first 788 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: song we came out with wasn't funk. It was more 789 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: or less like it was the Isley Brothers, and I 790 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: just flipped sleeping in my I mean between the sheets. 791 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: But what I did was I start realizing that if 792 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: you play the sample over, it gave you a different 793 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: texture to the music. So you start playing the music over. 794 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: That's when people start thinking it was like West Coast music, 795 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: but that wasn't. It wasn't West Coast. It was just 796 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: in between the sheets, right, because if we had I 797 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: remember we had in between the sheets. And then Biggie 798 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: them had Big Popper, right, and Big used to come 799 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: to me all the time be like, man, what did 800 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: you do to your beat? That's different than my beat? 801 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: And he just had a sample. I had more, you 802 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I almost had like more, yeah, 803 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: different things. I could take the base, I could do 804 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to do because we played it over right, 805 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: And I think that's where people start, you know, it 806 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: was we ran with it because it was song was 807 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: called funct the five, but it wasn't. It was an 808 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: Izi Brothers record that did so funk. Yeah, And that's 809 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: the first time I started rapping on as far as 810 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: people first time hearing me, and that's because I was 811 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: in there writing the raps and I was in there 812 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: writing and I was just playing around like I was 813 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: playing around, like I'm gonna say this, and you say this, 814 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: and it started going and it was like back and forth, 815 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: back and forth, and everybody was around. It was like, 816 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: y'all should do that, and I'm like, no, I don't 817 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: want to rap, right, I'm still trying to stick to 818 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: just I'm produce something. I'm going I'm doing good. I'm 819 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: not getting ready to start doing this. We're not going 820 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: to mess this up, right. 821 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 4: That's around the time they're off. Sure Knight was like, 822 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 4: you wann't producers in your video rapping. 823 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: This was before that. It was almost that much. This 824 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: was before that. So yeah, so so we get from 825 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: the five from the five car and this Brat record, 826 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: Go Crazy Funk, the five record, Go Crazy Too Crazy 827 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: and Brat album. She became the first female solo artist 828 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: to have a platinum album. It was crazy Man, shout 829 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: out to the Brat White y'all co wrote that, Yeah, 830 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: so that's when I saw you know what I mean. 831 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: I start I was, I was writing, but then I 832 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: started remembering, like you rap, I already knew what you 833 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we just start figuring out 834 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: out back and forth motion right, and I write one 835 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: part and then she'll grab it and understand where I'm 836 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: going and this should just take it. 837 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 4: You know, tipt On me uh tiny Rode Uh scrubs. 838 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the scrub is hun Candy. 839 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: He said he was on the passages side. Though, I'm sure, 840 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 4: sure that's crazy. Gag kiss, gag. I know I'm jumping 841 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 4: all you know, I got. 842 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: Some beautiful conversations. This is very knowledge. I'm with you, brother, 843 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm with So then like I'm running around now with 844 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: Brat and I'm rapping Functifies big song, performing with her everywhere. 845 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: But we go right and I'm like, I still don't 846 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: want to rap, but I'm writing more raps now because 847 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm hearing myself on the radio and I'm rapping. I'm 848 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: starting rapping. And then all my friends like, jad, you 849 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: should make yo, you should make an album, and I'm like, no, 850 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to make no album. I'm just gonna 851 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: keep doing what I'm doing. But I start making like 852 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: fake songs in the studio, like I'll be writing a 853 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: song and I'm thinking I'm gonna give it to somebody else, 854 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: but I damn near finished the song and my friends 855 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: start listening to it in the car and they're like, yo, 856 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: you should make this a real song. One thing led 857 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: to the next, to the next of the next, and 858 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: then I did my first album Life in fourteen seventy two. 859 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 4: You want to know what's crazy is there's something going 860 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 4: on Damn the other side of town. 861 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: You got the goodie wrong? Not yet, not yet? You 862 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna let you control, Dad get. 863 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 4: You asked questions, man like yeah, yeah, ahead of the 864 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 4: time they're off. 865 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: Yet this all like, you know, how do I know this? 866 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: You older in me? It seemed like that by a 867 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: couple of can it seems like that's what it Wasn't 868 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: like that. It's an argument about that now, Like people 869 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: don't understand Chriss Cross came out before Outcast Facts. 870 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 4: I know that, but I didn't know. I didn't know 871 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 4: that Goodie Bob and Rico Wait and the family. He 872 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 4: wasn't cooking up. 873 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: But That's what I'm saying. You got to think about it. 874 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: Like here's New York. Chris Crust came out before outcasts, 875 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: So you got to think about where the stretch was, right, 876 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: It's like this crisscrossed the outcast, so outcast came. I mean, 877 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: Goodie Mob came out after outcast after outcast. 878 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 4: Success know that, No, no, no, always thought the goodie Mob. 879 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 4: That's why we learned it. And I always thought the 880 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 4: good people. Think I'm signed a big punt, you understand, 881 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 4: not there is I'm telling you. 882 00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: They asked me, I'm thinking Goodie Mob. Birth casts cast 883 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: came out first, that what free? Outcasts came out first, 884 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: then Goodie Mob. Wow, that's amazing. But that's after the 885 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: game good time table. He was, yes, I you know. 886 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: So we went into the space of me started rapping, 887 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: and me and Bratt start doing like going back and 888 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: forth doing things this and the third and we did 889 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: the Sleeping in My Bed remix right that ship she 890 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: did the Sleeping in My Bed remix. This was like 891 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 1: the first song that New York have really ever, really 892 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: really embraced that I did. Now, you gotta think from 893 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: this whole time when I was staying in New York, 894 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: I had some times Leven I took, I took them 895 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: to see Red, I took I took the record the 896 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: Red Alert and Chuck Chill Out and Chuck Chill I 897 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: was like, nah, no, I can't take that country ship 898 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: back shuck still like that. So so I always had 899 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: this thing where I kept trying to treat my rest 900 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: plate in. 901 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 4: New York the radio twenty twenty, still be doing there. Yes, listen, yeah, 902 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: I like curse like that changed. 903 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but by the way, that made me want that 904 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: just made me just like, I gotta get a record 905 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: in New York. Like I gotta get a record in 906 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: New York. So I just kept I wasn't thinking about 907 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: Sleeping in my Bed being that record, but I was 908 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: always wanted a record that When I got to New York, 909 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: I turned on Hot ninety seven. I hear my music, right, 910 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: So Sleeping in my Bed became like one of the 911 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: hottest records in New York. Flex was playing at the 912 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 1: tunnel was an R and B record. They weren't playing 913 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: on R and B at the tunnel, right. He was 914 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: playing this. He's like, Jad, you gotta come to a 915 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: party at the tunnel. Sleeping in my Bed is going crazy, right, 916 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: So Sleeping in my Bed going crazy. And then we 917 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: had the photo shoot the Great Day in Hall did 918 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: all the rappers. 919 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 4: Looking like a baby on the on the fucking picture 920 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 4: that's in my store right now when the Bronx, you're 921 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 4: looking like a baby out there. 922 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this so we we we come to New 923 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: York and go to Harlem do this. And then that's 924 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: when I I met Hole right and on my way 925 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: to the shoot, I'm listening to the clue tape and 926 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: Hove took the sleeping in my bed beat and he 927 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: took my cat and said, y'all want to dance, I'm 928 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna make it dance. He took all of that and 929 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: did a freestyle. So then I'm in the car like, oh, 930 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: this nigga knows me. Yeah, he fuck with you. I'm like, 931 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: you really know me? Then paid attention to my whole shit. 932 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: So I wasn't thinking like when I seen him, I'm 933 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: gonna say, let's make a record. But somewhere in my 934 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: mind that's what happened, right, So when I seen him 935 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: out there, I'm like, y'all heard you just do my 936 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: whole little flow on that clue tape. You need to 937 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: come to Atlanta, we make a record, And he's like 938 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: all right, he gave me his number, so I went 939 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: back home. All my mind was that I'm gonna make 940 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: this record with jay Z. That's all I was thinking about. 941 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this record jay Z. I ain't know 942 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: what the record's gonna be, but I'm like, i'mnna make 943 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: this record with jay Z. And long story short, he 944 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: came to Atlanta and I went and picked him up. 945 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: And when I'm when I'm driving to the airport pick 946 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: him up, I'm listening to he Can't Knocked the Hustle. 947 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: And when he say deep in the South, kicking up 948 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: top game, I'm like, he's talking about me. Who is 949 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: he talking about? I'm riding. I'm thinking he talking about me, 950 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: And he say, switching froll lane. I'm switching, by the way, 951 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in a Bentley. Oh you can't up 952 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: by that. Yeah, I'm in the Continental Tea, by the way, 953 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: not just a Bentley, you know what I mean. I'm 954 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: in the Continental Tea going to the airport to pick 955 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: him up, and I'm all out the window. I'm driving 956 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: like this, I'm doing everything he's saying in there and 957 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: switching froll lanes, screaming through the sum room, went anything. 958 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is me. I'm definitely telling you. That's 959 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. He talking about me. So as soon 960 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: as he comes out of the airport, I say, yo, 961 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm a sample this part. This is gonna be our song. 962 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, he's thinking about what I 963 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: was saying. And then all the way down the street 964 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: to my house, down Old National to my house, he 965 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: just got quiet, and I guess he's zoned in on 966 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,959 Speaker 1: his verse. He ain't even hit a beat. I ain't 967 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: playing no beef for my I had a idea. We 968 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: got to my house, I hit the beat and I said, 969 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna wrap over. He's like, all right, 970 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: let's go. I'm ready. And I was like, what that's 971 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: crazy how this worked? And I thought the ship was 972 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna be trashed. Jada would have moved into your house. Jada, 973 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: take his time. 974 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 4: He'd have moved into your house for a month before 975 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 4: he gave you that verse. 976 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: You're crazy, Jada take his time. There you go cap. 977 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 3: It now, how it flew to Atlanta for other ship 978 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: and went in studio and gave him verses. 979 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 4: That in fact or not, Yes, I gotta fuck with 980 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 4: the god. 981 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: But my thing is he is he's the one that 982 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: could catch me. Come over, kisching Money dropped it for 983 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: the brat. Money ain't the thing up here. 984 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 4: It felt like that was the mergence of down South 985 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 4: in New York, like like it was, you know, it 986 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: felt like that was the ship it was. And y'all 987 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 4: was talking that ship legendary. You know, whose idea was 988 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,959 Speaker 4: the video and all that. The video was crazy. 989 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: Everything about that with me hoole and free shout out 990 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: the free Maid and uh yeah, we was just like 991 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: we was trying to just figure out how to do 992 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: the dumbest ship we could possibly do at that particular 993 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: point in time, you know what I mean. And we 994 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: were supposed to we were supposed to have a horse race. 995 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: Well we both was riding a horse, but it was 996 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: like I ain't riding no horse, and I'm like, I'm 997 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna ride the horse. You can put you put your 998 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: girl on the horse, our racer. And the way we 999 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: start talking to each other, that's how the video was like, 1000 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: all right, a better one hundred thousand niggas, let's go right. 1001 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: So then everything was just like let's let's let's let's 1002 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: do it. Let's go over top. So yeah, we wreckoned 1003 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: portions and everything at the video shoot real life. 1004 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so y'all was just jumping out. 1005 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: So at one point do you hear Outcasts, well, Outcasts out. 1006 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 1: At this point, Outcast is out, like Outcasts came out. 1007 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: They Outcast was out. Like I said, Outcasts came out 1008 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: right after Chris Crust. They actually was like bratt Outcast 1009 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: and that they in that little era. All of that 1010 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: came out around the same time, like ninety four. Chris 1011 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: Crust came out in ninety two. So Outcasts, I think 1012 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: like they came out and that's when they won. They 1013 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: won the award at the Source Awards in ninety four. 1014 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 1: I was there. That was that night. I was dead brother. 1015 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 4: I was sitting right behind Outcast, right in front of 1016 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 4: the Outcasts was the sixty nine boys. 1017 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: NaNs was sitting right in front of me. 1018 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 4: You really remember, I'm at the I'm strapping the fucking 1019 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 4: sauce of wars like not keep it real with you. 1020 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 4: I got the HANDI moves with me. I'm up in there, 1021 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I saw where Outcasts 1022 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 4: won that that award and they just got up and 1023 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 4: I wasn't. I was up on outcasts. But I didn't 1024 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 4: think they were the Kings, right, So I I knew 1025 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 4: they was nice. I knew they was wrapping that at L, 1026 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 4: but I ain't when they won who they won against 1027 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 4: Wu Tang. They wan't won against some serious people up there. 1028 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 4: That was a new Artist award through right. 1029 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was. 1030 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 4: It was around the same time. But when they go, 1031 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 4: I remember them getting up. They did like a little 1032 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 4: one two step they went because they didn't think they 1033 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 4: were gonna win in New York. They so when they 1034 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 4: won it, that was a major. That was like Biggie 1035 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 4: on stage going Brooklyn. 1036 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: We did it. 1037 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 4: We made it right. It's like when outcast one. If 1038 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 4: you wasn't there you were in the at L. You 1039 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 4: seen when they won that on TV. I was there 1040 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 4: or you was there. So what that must have been 1041 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 4: like in the whole entire South or they like the 1042 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 4: South got something to say. I mean, for me, I 1043 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 4: didn't feel it like that because I had already said 1044 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 4: what I had to say. I had already been saying 1045 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 4: what the South got the same right, But this was 1046 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 4: more or less like you know, like what niggas don't understand. 1047 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: I ushered them, young niggas and rap. When I brought 1048 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: Criscruss in the game, it was no young people rapping. 1049 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: Young people didn't even want to rap, right, it was 1050 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: all old niggas. So old niggas would never give young 1051 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: niggas no credit. Criscross came out, they first album. They 1052 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 1: sold eight million records. Niggas don't ever be like really 1053 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: like talking about this, like they want to give all 1054 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: Criscross credit to somebody else. They sold eight million records 1055 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: at twelve years old. That's a lot of records. Man, 1056 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: they sold four million jumps. Hold on that. 1057 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 4: You know his studio, he got a war with nothing 1058 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 4: but platinum dinond shit. 1059 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: The studio, I call it it. Museum are the exhibit? 1060 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 4: You walked up in there and you know you you 1061 00:51:50,760 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 4: step in this shit? How many millions niggas kissed one? 1062 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 4: Let me ask you that, like he said, you got it. 1063 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 4: But it's a lot of millions. 1064 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean it was one time it was at like 1065 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: four hundred five hundred million, but that's that was like 1066 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Now that we got this streaming ship, 1067 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: I know it's way more than the Confessions. 1068 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 3: I even get to my riot, how what was you? 1069 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 3: And the staff shout out to be cock shout out 1070 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 3: to everybody, what was what kind of zoom? What did 1071 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 3: y'all set out to do? Cause if y'all just say, 1072 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: you know, we're about to cook up some ship and 1073 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 3: go diamond and take over the whole every piast of 1074 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: the world. 1075 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: Accomplished that to the t, I don't think that's what 1076 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: y'all did. No, No, I mean you got so. We 1077 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: had eighty seven o one first before professionals, right after 1078 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: definitely Yeah, so eighty seven o one we wrote, we 1079 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: wrote you Got It Bad real, so you got It Bad. 1080 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: The success that You Got It Bad was just like 1081 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 1: it's the beginning of it. Like it was like, okay, listen, 1082 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: we make after after you Got It Bad success, We 1083 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: went back in the studio for Confessions. The mentality was 1084 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: that we had to finish off what we thought You 1085 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: Got It Bad did, right so us She was talking 1086 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: about the song like he felt like his relationship was 1087 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: going through the situation. He wanted it to burn out, 1088 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: like just let it burn out, and we have to 1089 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: go through the pain. And he was telling me this 1090 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: and I couldn't really grasp what he was saying because 1091 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: I went I had gone through that type of situation. 1092 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: But I was trying to and I was trying to 1093 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: figure it out, and he told me this, and then 1094 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: he left and I sat there for a minute. I 1095 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: except thinking about him, like let it burn, let it burn, 1096 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: And I kept saying like, oh, okay, I want the 1097 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: feeling everybody, you know. I started trying to figure out 1098 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: what the lords were and then I got it and 1099 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: I called him back. I said, I got it, I 1100 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: got it, I got the hook. So he came back 1101 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: to the studio and we did let it burn first, 1102 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: like we did let it burn first. And then he 1103 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: starts saying was going through this thing where he couldn't 1104 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: really work in Atlanta. Let's go to LA And I'm like, nah, 1105 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: here we go. This is the bullshit I thought we 1106 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: was just everybody go through a phase. 1107 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 4: You think he gonna block his own blessings, right, I'm like. 1108 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 1: Here we go. I'm thinking about me because I'm I'm 1109 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to be where I can grab 1110 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: all the records that I need, any ideas, It's all 1111 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: in my studio right for me as far as being creative, 1112 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to go nowhere because I know I'm 1113 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: gonna forget something I'm gonna leave someone. I can't find 1114 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: something that yeah, right, So he like, let's go to 1115 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: LA and I'm like, shit, cool, I'm going we go. 1116 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: We go to Brandon's Way and we get out there 1117 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: and my man that was with me. He was talking 1118 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: to me about girls inside girls and relationships and this, 1119 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 1: that and the third, and I just kept saying, that's you. 1120 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 1: That's all bad, Like everything you're talking about is all bad. 1121 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: And Usher came to the studio and we started talking 1122 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: about some things, but then he left, and all I 1123 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: kept remember he was like, Yo, let's let's let's come 1124 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. And I was like, Manna, I can't let 1125 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: LA beat me. I get like a writer's block. I 1126 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: feel like I got a writer's block basically, And you know, 1127 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: it's really really bothered me because I already felt like 1128 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen when I got to LA. So 1129 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: I have to cut you off. That happens to me 1130 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: in La. I needed. 1131 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 3: I can't just go there and go straight to the studio. 1132 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta cry, I gotta be, I gotta. 1133 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,720 Speaker 1: Some ship gota happen. I can't. 1134 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: I don't got the same fluidity in the studio in 1135 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 3: la that I got anywhere else, and I don't know 1136 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,320 Speaker 3: what he I don't know what it is. It takes 1137 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 3: a while for me to get I can't just go 1138 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 3: there and be kissed off the brip. 1139 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 4: So I never really successfully wrote in l A. Never 1140 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 4: me myself, never hit one out the park in l 1141 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 4: l A. Like you know, I wrote ship there, but 1142 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 4: it wasn't. 1143 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: Blackout was recorded in l A. X album this is it. 1144 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: That's probably no. He was recording out there. I'm talking 1145 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: about for me, one of X album is the best 1146 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: I was able. So yeah, So I'm I'm going through 1147 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: this thing and I'm struggling. So I'm like, I told 1148 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: the engineer give me a copy of the beat because 1149 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: I made we made a beat man because he made 1150 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: the beat. And I think I know I know the beat, right, 1151 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: I just don't. I ain't got the words. I can't 1152 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: figure it out. And I and I'm thinking about saying 1153 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 1: stuff that I don't think USh is gonna want to say, right, 1154 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking like that he ain't gonna want to 1155 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: do this because this ain't what his life is, right, 1156 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: he ain't going through this. So I'm like, but that's 1157 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: what I want to say, but I'm thinking, like this 1158 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. So I take the beat and I 1159 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: get in the car. And I'm getting in the car, 1160 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm riding down Melrose and I'm thinking, like where I 1161 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: knew n. I'm thinking, I'm thinking like shit, I ain't 1162 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 1: got the words. I can't. So I started thinking about 1163 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 1: usual suspect right was in the jail. He ain't had 1164 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: the words for the story. He just started looking for 1165 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: the words on the board and try to create the story. 1166 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna try this, and that's what 1167 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: I've started doing. I'm looking at signs on mail Rose. 1168 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: It's all kind of shit going, right. So I get 1169 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: to the light I think on third and the Beverly 1170 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: Center's in front of me. And that's when I say 1171 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: every time I was in La, I was with my 1172 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend. Every time she called me and told him Gravey, 1173 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm working. No, I was not doing my work. I 1174 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: was handed handing the Beverly Center like man, not giving 1175 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: the damn. Who sees me? And I'm thinking like, oh, 1176 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: and I'm just grabbing this everything I see. I would 1177 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: have never said the Beverly Son in that song. If 1178 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,439 Speaker 1: the Beverly Center wasn't in front of me. I'm trying 1179 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,919 Speaker 1: to do the kisise shit right. So as I get 1180 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: through that verse, I'm like, I'm like, I got it, 1181 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: and so everything is everything. Everything I've been doing is 1182 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: all bad. I got a chick on the side of 1183 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: the crib and the ride up and telling you to 1184 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: minize ain't looking good. It's all bad. I just want 1185 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: to confess. And that's where confessions came from, with me saying, 1186 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: I just want to confess all of this ship that 1187 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: I've been doing is bad. We ain't have confessions that 1188 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: if I want to say that, I want to confess 1189 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: to you everything that I've been doing is bad. It's 1190 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: like my time. I'm saying, this is gonna be the 1191 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: first R and B record with a nigga actually tell 1192 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: a girl he fuck it, Yeah, you ain't got even asked. Yeah, 1193 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm fucking her. Just what I'm doing. I got a 1194 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: crib on the side, chick on the side with a 1195 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: crib on the ride up and telling you so many 1196 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: lines ain't nothing good. It's all bad. I ain't always 1197 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: going I just felt like. 1198 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 4: Day that song feels so good to this day. 1199 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: So that was the beginning, right, that was the beginning. 1200 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: I had to drive all the way to Malibu because 1201 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: everybody had left the studio and I couldn't record. I 1202 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: had to remember, I had to memorize all of this. Yeah, 1203 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: I had to keep going right. So the next day 1204 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: it's like, we got to hurry and get to the studio. 1205 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: So I put it down. You ain't write it down, 1206 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: you know. I'm right, I'm driving and writing in my head. 1207 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: I forget too much. So so we get back, we 1208 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: do this, we do all bad and then Mark pitch like, well, 1209 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: what happen? And after, you know, after this situation, what 1210 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: happened with the chick on the side. Then it hit 1211 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: me it's like, oh damn, she got pregnant. This is 1212 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 1: like my real life, right, the chick on the side 1213 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: get pregnant. I know this story, Like I really know 1214 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: this story. I ain't even gonna write this right. So 1215 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: that's when we're like, okay, I'm like, ship, it's gonna 1216 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: be part two. And part two became these on my 1217 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: confession and you if we would ever got to that, 1218 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: if we went and did we So we did a 1219 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: part two of a song that never even came out. 1220 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 4: Wow, so that was part two. That was the response. Yeah, 1221 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 4: and you ain't even do the first one. Well, we 1222 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 4: did it, but it didn't come out. LA didn't put 1223 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 4: all Bad on the first He didn't put it on 1224 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 4: the album. He put it on the you know me 1225 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 4: on the repackage. You know you name it some big names, right, 1226 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 4: So you're saying l A Read, You're saying Mark Pitts, 1227 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 4: who the sides? 1228 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: What comes on the album? LA Read on the faith? 1229 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean you know at that time, Ariston, you know 1230 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: that was that he'd be like, I want this, I 1231 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: want that shot. That's his job, that's what he's thinking. 1232 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: And that was his face, like La, you know, putting 1233 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: the albums in space saw. 1234 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 4: Like a like an old interview with all Kelly and 1235 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 4: he said he would do like a hundred songs and 1236 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 4: listen to all of them and pick out the twelve 1237 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 4: on the album, Like you know how hard that ship 1238 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 4: had to be to like, here's probably some gems left 1239 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 4: on the floor, right. 1240 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like, I never I never 1241 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: even understood why LA didn't even put both versions. He 1242 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: didn't want he ain't put all bad And I'm like, 1243 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, what's crazy is that people gonna listen to 1244 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: this and they're hearing the second story. They don't even 1245 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: know where it came from. But I couldn't figure I 1246 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how it was genius. Yeah it was. 1247 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 1: It was like crazy genie shit. So so that was 1248 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of confessionals. I think Big Pun. 1249 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Even think about it, do JD. That's how movies sometimes 1250 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 3: they make you watch the movie back. 1251 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 4: That's the track, and it was ill. He said he 1252 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 4: did the kad his soul said yeah, right his block 1253 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 4: and you're looking at signs. 1254 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: It was like, but you care you ain't got it, 1255 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, if you want the pressure. 1256 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: That's that's all I remember about that movie is that 1257 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: dude was in there, you know what I mean, in 1258 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: the jail, the dude asking him questions and he's underpressure. 1259 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: The whole story with it. He just looking at stuff 1260 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and he's like, Oh, that's crazy. If you could put 1261 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: it together and make it sound good, that's what I 1262 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: started trying to do. That was that's crazy. 1263 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 4: So I got to ask you think Big Pun because 1264 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 4: it's his biggest question in the world. 1265 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: Was Janet Jackson? You got Janet Jackson now prime was 1266 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: it a problem? She was six packed up and all that. 1267 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 4: Was there was a Janet that went crazy at one 1268 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 4: point that she just became the baddest. 1269 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,959 Speaker 1: I know that it's good time. 1270 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 4: Can I say right that you caught high at the 1271 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 4: time she went crazy? 1272 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Right? And so? 1273 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 4: And I don't know, let me ask you before that, 1274 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 4: Let me ask you question you went crazy before that? 1275 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 4: It was enough to make you say it was Let 1276 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 4: me holler right, the confidence to holler at Janet's well, 1277 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, because. 1278 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: He did what he said he did till twelve. 1279 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 4: No, no, I understand that said it's Jannet Jackson nos 1280 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 4: talking about Penny. Okay, well you got the confidence I 1281 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 4: ain't got. Now, let me ask you a question you 1282 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 4: ever got shocked by? Can I say something joke? I'll 1283 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 4: tell you he's on his ship, on his city. 1284 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I can't let you get away with this ship. This 1285 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: ain't that and that ain't this cracking kisss. 1286 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson never pulled you on the side and say, yo, 1287 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 4: you're dating my sister. 1288 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: You know that? You so? 1289 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 4: He never he don't get involved in his sister's love 1290 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 4: life now. 1291 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: But but Jackie, I think Jackie did and then where Jackie, 1292 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Jackie want to smoke. They just let me know. I 1293 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: mean somebody. 1294 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 4: But at the same fucking with your sister, you might 1295 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I used to sit in 1296 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 4: front of my sister with a baseball bat. 1297 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: She hated me. My whole life. Guy come to visit hunting. 1298 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm sitting right in forest projects with a baseball back 1299 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 4: looking at the dude like. 1300 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: They had no time anything. You even met him. I 1301 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. At that time. 1302 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 4: I was one of them crazy Puerto Ricans. Then you 1303 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 4: was like, yo, I'm dating this. Check there's a crazy 1304 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 4: Puerto Rican nigga with a baseball. 1305 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Bat staring at me. No. 1306 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 4: No, at the house, you know, yo, miss can I 1307 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 4: come visit your daughter? I'm sitting there with the baseball. 1308 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 4: My sister never got over that from me, you know 1309 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it was whacked. 1310 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: It was whacked. So he never stepped to you like nah, 1311 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: But in the house you have to pick a side though, 1312 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 1: between Michael and Channel and that I was. He had 1313 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: to pick a side, like if you was on the 1314 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Michael side or you was on the Channels side. So 1315 01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: there was family competition. Yeah, just six Jermaine Dupriz ship 1316 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: fucking Lanta up. That ship was like to draw. So 1317 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: like Jackie with me and Jackie we hit it off. 1318 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: Jackie told me he was like, you know, we're the 1319 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: first niggas in LA with Ferraris And I'm like, what 1320 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: you have to think about that or that's where he said, 1321 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: just think or that's a fact though now. But I'm 1322 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: just saying, you can't niggas in LA that haven't had 1323 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: with Jackson. Bro. 1324 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the first alien in the living room. Bro, these 1325 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 4: guys you leave it to us. Anything they did, we 1326 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 4: we believe. 1327 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So I mean you have to you know, 1328 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: he's just breaking it down for me, like you know 1329 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, And you didn't know that now. 1330 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 4: That's why I'm telling you it took a lot of 1331 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 4: cohets to step the Janet Jackson when not world heard 1332 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 4: Jermaine Duprix was Dayton. Janet was like this, you know 1333 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 4: how many motherfuckers? Was like, oh, I wish I had 1334 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 4: the heart to talk. 1335 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: To her, yo. 1336 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 4: I you know, you know, you know Raoul Recipes always 1337 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 4: told me Jalo gave. 1338 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Him a look. 1339 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 4: One time we're shooting the video with Jenna he would 1340 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 4: tell me all the time, like shut. 1341 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: The fuck up. 1342 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 4: She ain't look at you the fucking line. But by 1343 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 4: the way, that's all looked at me. That's all I'm 1344 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 4: telling you. I respect it because of you. I said, Chlo. 1345 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Did not look at you. 1346 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 4: Raoul. 1347 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: He really he went to his grave with that story. 1348 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Really believed that ship. It's probably true. Why I say 1349 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the money and thing. She looks, she goes, it's it's 1350 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: bye bye. She looks, she goes, for sure, But you 1351 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 1: ain't got to say no more. I mean, damn as, 1352 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,479 Speaker 1: I still live. I live by that today. She looks, 1353 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: she go sick. That's what it is. She looks, she goes, 1354 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: it's a. 1355 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 3: Wrap now after you now confessions because I got a 1356 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 3: deal on the journeyist sagas he keeping it on. 1357 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: You been asking I want to stay on seching you 1358 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 1: all about time. I'm right. I'm with you. Maria, how y'all. 1359 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 3: The MC you just seem to hit everything out of 1360 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 3: the park with everything you create for herd and with us, 1361 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 3: I mean. 1362 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: With the Mariahs ship was like the first record I 1363 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: did for Mariah was always be My Baby Right, And 1364 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: I fucking loved that song. You always feed my Baby. Oh, 1365 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: so that's the first song I did for and and 1366 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: she she came to me like she told Tommy like, 1367 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I want to work with him because she liked just 1368 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: kicking it. She liked this Kate. She wanted the song 1369 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: and felt like that, And that's what that was my 1370 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: attempt to give her, like just kicking it was was 1371 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: always be my baby, right, And then that's where we 1372 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: formed our relationship. Shit when we just started working, working, working, 1373 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: And then when La signed to The Death Jam, he 1374 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: started working on the Masciplation of Me Me and I 1375 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: wasn't on it and he called me and he was like, oh. 1376 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: He told her his favorite song, his favorite Mariah Carey 1377 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: record was always beat my Baby, and she was like, 1378 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: with JD did that song? And he was like, well, 1379 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: you need to go to Atlanta and see j D. 1380 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: And he sent her to Atlanta and the first record 1381 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: we did was is like that and No, the first 1382 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: record we did was can I Get Your Number? And 1383 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm singing on the record because I was gonna I 1384 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: wanted her to do the part, but when she heard it, 1385 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,959 Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I'm not doing that. You stay 1386 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: on the record, and I'm like I don't want I'm 1387 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: not singing on the record. She's like, you know, stay 1388 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 1: on the record. So I ended up staying on this 1389 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: song can I Get your number? And then me and 1390 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: be Cox we did shake it off. So we did 1391 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Can't I Get your number? And shake it off in 1392 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: the same little like two days. So they went back 1393 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: and she came back to New York. She played these 1394 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: two songs for l A and he was like, oh bye, 1395 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: He's like, hold up this this, this, this feels like 1396 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 1: where we need to go. You need to go back, 1397 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: go back to Atlanta one more time. So then they 1398 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: called me. It's like she's coming back, and he was like, JD, 1399 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 1: you still ain't always be my baby? And I'm like, 1400 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't do that again. I don't know. 1401 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I can do that again. So he 1402 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 1: came and I knowing that he wants this record that 1403 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: feel like always be my baby, So immediately I'm like, 1404 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: we gotta make a ballot. That's what he looking for. 1405 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: He looking for a ballot, and we made we Belong 1406 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 1: together on the gav I to sleep at night, and 1407 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: then we did It's like that too, that same little session, 1408 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: but we belong together as the record you know What's 1409 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: Crazy is my favorite singer of all time is Luther 1410 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Van jews rest the piece. 1411 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 4: And this morning I woke up and I played the 1412 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 4: performance of Luther in London with Mariah. Now I've seen 1413 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 4: videos of Luther singing with with Whitney Houston where he 1414 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 4: had to encourage her, like yo, Whitney km on, like 1415 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 4: he was giving a pep talk collute the different. But 1416 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 4: a young Mariah Carey went over there and went toe 1417 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 4: to toe like a Muhammad al Leave fighting. 1418 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,760 Speaker 1: In that performance. And it was just like yo, and 1419 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 1: like she wasn't scared in Luther. She was a young girl, 1420 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 1: a care That's what carry man. 1421 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 4: She she different, you know What's crazy? Before the world 1422 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 4: was being mess it was so so Deaths. Yeah, and 1423 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 4: so I remember going land, Yo, it's so so Atlanta, right, 1424 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 4: and then it turned into b m F. 1425 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: But they got to sign across from me, across on 1426 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: the other side. They got to sign across the other side. 1427 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 1: Ain't no, I'm just saying. The signs was like a 1428 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: lot of people think encouragement for them. A lot of 1429 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: people think that they we switched sign my son right there. 1430 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,759 Speaker 1: They was like like that was like, un the author 1431 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: us to be honest. 1432 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 4: Well, we knew we was gonna he is kind of 1433 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 4: Worzel Choppo, Like, motherfucker, gotta be kidding me, right, I 1434 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 4: used to think they was police is something. At first 1435 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 4: They'd be like, y'all get with them. I'd be like, what, Yeah, 1436 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 4: they're paying crazy money for features and this. I'd be like, 1437 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 4: I see them in the clubs and all I'll say, Yo, 1438 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 4: this is just no way. 1439 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: These guys are doing it. 1440 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 4: Like they thought they were legally selling drugs or something, right, 1441 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 4: And so no, no, I'm telling you. They come to 1442 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 4: Miami twenty white cars, Lamborghini, white, Ferrari white colored in white, 1443 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 4: this white truck like this Tuesday sky blues were offan 1444 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 4: of sky blues for robbers. 1445 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: They was just doing different colors. 1446 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 4: And they had a birthday party where they was they 1447 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,759 Speaker 4: had tigers in the club bro full fledged. 1448 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: They was doing ship the first time I ever seen 1449 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: them at one hundred and seventy five homers. That magic. 1450 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 1: Let me say that Atlanta. Atlanta allows you to do that, 1451 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Like Atlanta is the only city in America where you 1452 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: can go to and you're gonna see black people with 1453 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: money that don't sell dope. I'm talking my money. I'm 1454 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: with that. I'm saying so ultimately, when you get the cryptic, 1455 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: so ultimately, what Meat was doing blended in so well 1456 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: that it didn't feel like what you're talking about to us, 1457 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: because because me coming from the Bronx, Yeah, that's what 1458 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I feel like I knew there were some 1459 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 1: indictments coming SNYE see that what I'm saying, It didn't 1460 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: feel like I fucking knew it like the back of 1461 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 1: my head. It ain't feel like that to us because saying, 1462 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 1: if you pull up the Linux Square right now, I'm 1463 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,719 Speaker 1: mad rich black people, Atlantic Square looked like they looked 1464 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 1: just like what you're talking about. 1465 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 4: That's probably the only bag I never took like. They 1466 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,560 Speaker 4: was like, yo, we's got the bag. He want features, 1467 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 4: And I was like. 1468 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 1: I took that. It's beautiful. I was telling you, what's 1469 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: so with this Magic City album and doc all right, 1470 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 1: so the Magic City album, But initially we did a 1471 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 1: Magic City documentary and I didn't have had I got 1472 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: a new deal with Hide a Social Depth Hide, but 1473 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have my deal right, and I was just 1474 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: doing a documentary as an executive producer, and then I 1475 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 1: signed my deal in between us putting this doc out, 1476 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: and I was just like, it's crazy that we ain't 1477 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,879 Speaker 1: doing something with the music, right. So I had conversation 1478 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 1: with School and I'm like, I think my first project 1479 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 1: should be a soundtrack from this Magic City documentary and 1480 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's yeah, let's do that. And 1481 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: we called stars and we was like, Yo, we're going 1482 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: to do a documentary soundtrack. And it was like, we 1483 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 1: don't really do soundtracks like that. And I'm like what, 1484 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is this is what the club 1485 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: is about. The club thrives off the music. The music 1486 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: moves the club, so you got to make it go. 1487 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: And they weren't really like soul on doing the music right, 1488 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 1: but I'm sold on it. At this point, I'm going, 1489 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm starting to call artists. I'm trying to 1490 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: do what I gotta do. So then I was just like, 1491 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 1: you know what I thought about when I was working 1492 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 1: on American Gangster the songs that an American gangster ain't 1493 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 1: in the movie, right, So American Gangst the album, it 1494 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: says jay Z American Gangst I mean inspired by American 1495 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Gangster the movie but the songs that's in there is 1496 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: not in the in the movie. So then I was like, Ship, 1497 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: we could do this. We could just make a Jermaine 1498 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 1: the pre album inspired by the Magic City documentary. So 1499 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: that's basically what that's what we're at right now. 1500 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 4: So I got to ask you a question, though Jada 1501 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 4: hates giving it to you. Top five dances of all 1502 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 4: time in Magic City? White Chocolate at the top shot. 1503 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I gotta write these down because I got to google 1504 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: these people. But in the documentary all in the documentary, 1505 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Top five too many, man, it was 1506 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,639 Speaker 1: a girl named Sugar. It was a girl named sugar 1507 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: in then yeah Sugar, he told was a girl that 1508 01:13:53,920 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 1: live boy Sugar Sugar, Yeah sugar, man, none of them did. 1509 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: So more's magic that Magic's had. It's it's the time, Like, yeah, yes, 1510 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: it's this, But but white Chocolate, I feel like it's 1511 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: all time, is all time at the number one, she 1512 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 1: the one all time? 1513 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 4: So they don't they done threw the most money at 1514 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 4: white Chocolate every Yeah yeah, because you know the. 1515 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: Cribs is affordable them girls was probably buying acres and ship. No, 1516 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. I know you are like 1517 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,640 Speaker 1: he was out there, this ship was I mean, I 1518 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 1: spent ten thousand dollars every Monday for twenty years straight 1519 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: and nigga, easy take this off. Now it's. 1520 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,719 Speaker 4: Way I made this song, make it rain. I didn't 1521 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 4: go to the strip club for about three years until 1522 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 4: it got plaid out. 1523 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: Got old. 1524 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 4: They was killing me, like every time I walking to 1525 01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 4: be like, dang, don't played the Superman's song Light to 1526 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 4: Come On and missed thee. I'm like, and it was 1527 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 4: never enough. Because you may make it rain, they want 1528 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 4: you to keep it. I was like, yo, guess what. 1529 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 4: It's not good for me to go in the strip 1530 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 4: club because they get they're putting major peer pressure on me. 1531 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 1: But see this way, you gotta walk. You gotta walk 1532 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: from you gotta walk from the v P section and 1533 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: you gotta go holler at the DJ. You gotta get away. 1534 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You can't stay in that light. 1535 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: You can get stuck. So when we're stuck in that light, 1536 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: everybody watching you. Magic City gotta get out of that 1537 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 1: fish fall. No, magically, ain't got no second floor. Had 1538 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 1: a second floor. Oh now they got a little step up. 1539 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 4: That's where I met JIZI for the first time to 1540 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 4: live a little step up that was as far that that's. 1541 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 1: As low as you could go up there in that motherfucker. 1542 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, little step up? What made 1543 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 1: you what you want to do? The rap me? Like 1544 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 1: when Spike we'll say I want to get some kids 1545 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,639 Speaker 1: with the rap game. It wasn't with him my idea. 1546 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 1: It was. It was an idea that that I think, 1547 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 1: like Flavor Unit, they had the idea before, but I 1548 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: just was the person that had produced kids before and 1549 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 1: they didn't know nobody else that they thought could pull 1550 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: off that part. So the idea they had, they already 1551 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 1: had the idea when they came to me. That's when 1552 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I started flushing it out, telling them like, this is 1553 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and then my reach about getting 1554 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: the artists and all of this. I just took over 1555 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: the show from that point and once I, you know, 1556 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 1: after we got through the first season, I realized what 1557 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: we was doing and I was like, oh, I got this. 1558 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready run this up because I seen that, 1559 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, I seen how many people was paying attention 1560 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,680 Speaker 1: to it, and I also saw like once again it 1561 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: was like an opportunity for the young the younger generation 1562 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 1: to step forward and be a part of hip hop 1563 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: in a way that they weren't ever. You know, when 1564 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 1: I was a kid, it wasn't happening or even somebody else, 1565 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 1: even like bow bow Wow coming in the game. At 1566 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: the time when bow Wow came in, it still won 1567 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: no kid rappers, you know what I mean. When he 1568 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: came in, was still want nobody else out. That was 1569 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 1: at twelve years all doing he was doing. So it's 1570 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 1: like bow Wow to me was like llo woja the kid. 1571 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Fact. And the third album 1572 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,719 Speaker 1: when I wrote like You, that's what I was trying 1573 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: to get to, like you know, that was when I'm 1574 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 1: alone in Me. Yeah, I was trying to get to that. 1575 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Like you know, he was Dan Sierra. So I was 1576 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: just like, we gotta make all these songs for the girls, 1577 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 1: all these songs out of my system, like you all 1578 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 1: of these records. I just you know, him and Chris Brown, 1579 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: so they're like mine. I just start making all of 1580 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 1: these songs about the girl was crazy, like certified, like nuts. 1581 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:44,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, yo, I'm telling you, I'm all told with him, 1582 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 1: and they sat me everywhere we went, they had like 1583 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 1: me in one on one one O two. 1584 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 4: I don't know why they gave me Badwow. He randomly 1585 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 4: just knocked on my door and I'll be like, Yo, 1586 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,680 Speaker 4: bad Wow, what's up? And he started reading scriptures that 1587 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 4: he certified. You can't I met some crazy. He's like 1588 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 4: Keith Murray crazy. 1589 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Wow. He ain't Keith Bury Murray crazy. 1590 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,640 Speaker 4: I'm telling you baw Wow. Some of the ship he 1591 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 4: sayd private. I'm just like, no, no, it is private. 1592 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 4: I ain't saying what he's said. I'm just telling you, 1593 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,840 Speaker 4: by the way, I don't know how many times I 1594 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 4: said it right bow Wow. I was like Yoda, he's seven, 1595 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 4: Like I turned around like Yoda stuy like. 1596 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Ignorance is bliss with bow Wow. What's interesting about bow Wow? 1597 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Bow is a real rapper? Yes, he like literally, I'm 1598 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,759 Speaker 1: saying literally. He was on He was on AR Senior 1599 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: when he was six years old. He has the longest 1600 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 1: rap crew in rap than anybody. Don't nobody paying on. 1601 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 1: He's been rapping longer than anybody, and he's still on 1602 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: radio and still got songs playing in the club. He's 1603 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 1: been rapping longer than anybody else. That's in rap, right, 1604 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 1: and it's crazy. I signed him when he was eleven superstar. 1605 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,679 Speaker 4: I always thought you Snoop Dogg Son and some ship 1606 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 4: on that basically was yeah because he was like a 1607 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 4: little bad. 1608 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: Wow, you just don't know you know that ship, y'all, cass, 1609 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: you gotta kiss. I got a question. So I got 1610 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: a question for you because I know I've been I'm 1611 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: making this Magic City album and I have to ask 1612 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: people prior to me making the records if they beefing 1613 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 1: with somebody or whatever whatever, because I and I only 1614 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: do this, and I only do this because I didn't 1615 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,720 Speaker 1: do this with you, right. They did a good thing. 1616 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean you you kind of like fixed it before 1617 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 1: we fixed it with that song. So I did Hate 1618 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 1: Your Blood, right. I did the song Hating Your Blood, 1619 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 1: and I put kiss in Freeway on the same record 1620 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 1: in a minute in the middle of the heat without 1621 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 1: speaking to them, right, And I wanted the record to 1622 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: be just me and Kiss. I didn't want Freeway to wrap. 1623 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted Freeway to do the hook. That's what 1624 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 1: I heard in my head. So I had got kissed verse. 1625 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 1: I had Freeway come to the studio and he was 1626 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: like I'm get to put my verse on here, and 1627 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, I just want you to do 1628 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 1: the hook. I wasn't really paying no attention to me 1629 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: telling him, nah and his man and his You know, 1630 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 1: it's a verse going that. 1631 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 4: That beef was nuclear Jada, you and and and Beanie 1632 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 4: and Free Way and all. I'm going back and forth 1633 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 4: like that that that might have been one of the 1634 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 4: greatest lyrical beefs of all time. 1635 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,240 Speaker 1: So somebody, I know, somebody had to say something about 1636 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,800 Speaker 1: this that serious. No, no, no, it was the crew. 1637 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm somebody somebody and the crew had to say something. 1638 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 1: Somebody and crew said something about crazy song was knocking 1639 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 1: so and then and then really bothered me and beef. 1640 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't he had love. It started with love. So 1641 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't one of them things like that. 1642 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,479 Speaker 1: It wasn't a big wasn't one of them. We could 1643 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,600 Speaker 1: have died, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like 1644 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 1: that on this. My trust was in you with the song. 1645 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 5: I know you. 1646 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: You got the fucking billion dollars. So if you hear me, 1647 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:35,439 Speaker 1: you don't cling really like that. Now I got I 1648 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 1: got to I got to kiss who I have to 1649 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: ask now that I'm making these, now you gotta do it. 1650 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 4: But you know, I think I'm gonna add a little segment. 1651 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 4: It's called the Lousion the records to lose. Yeah, because 1652 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 4: your lady like, should he like that? 1653 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:48,439 Speaker 2: No? 1654 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 1: No, this ship you definitely need. I definitelyn't need. You 1655 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,479 Speaker 1: definitely need to do that because I was trying to 1656 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: think of like, like I said, I've been doing this record, 1657 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: this this Magic City album, and I'm only using artists 1658 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,800 Speaker 1: from Atlanta, right, I'm only I'm only doing records with 1659 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 1: artists that's from Atlanta. It's the whole soundtrack. So the 1660 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 1: first single is with t I, two Chains and UH 1661 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,880 Speaker 1: and drou. I never had records with any of them, like, 1662 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 1: never had records with them, right, And it's crazy as 1663 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: the energy keeps going with this, I keep seeing people 1664 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 1: say JD bringing the city back, this what the city needs, 1665 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And what ultimately hurt Atlanta music scene 1666 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: because people talk about why the music scene ain't like 1667 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 1: it used to be. Well, ultimately hurt Atlanta's music scene 1668 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 1: is delusional records, Right, and break that down for me 1669 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 1: and and and the and the independent mindset huh to 1670 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: fund with? You know, I said so so So from 1671 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 1: my side, it's the independent mindset because all the artists 1672 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,600 Speaker 1: that all the people in Atlanta love, they're not independent 1673 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: and they ain't not paying no attention to it. So 1674 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,719 Speaker 1: they delusional to believe that they gonna be like these people. 1675 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: It ain't will never happen like that, It's not gonna happen. 1676 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,840 Speaker 1: It's the biggest delusion going, right, And everybody keep trying 1677 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 1: to pump like like I see. I was talking to 1678 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,680 Speaker 1: myself before I came over here to his interview, and 1679 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 1: I was saying, like, you know, like if you look 1680 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,759 Speaker 1: at Beyonce, right, my dad signed destly shot of Columbia. 1681 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:22,680 Speaker 1: He was the President's who. So my dad used to 1682 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,679 Speaker 1: work in Columbia Records. This was one of the things 1683 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 1: that he know, this is one of his This is 1684 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,160 Speaker 1: one of his puts. Right there, he shot out the 1685 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,479 Speaker 1: O G Yeah, shout out my dad. But I say 1686 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 1: this to say that Beyonce has been signed to Columbia 1687 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Records for twenty five years, right, longer that right? But 1688 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 1: Steve Stout got a record company that's independent, and Stout 1689 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 1: and Hove his partners, right, you would think that if 1690 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 1: it's so green on the other side, while would Beyonce 1691 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,839 Speaker 1: get out of her deal and go sign with Stout 1692 01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: or anybody else for that matter, Right, And a delusion 1693 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 1: is that it's a delusion in there. And whatever your 1694 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: delusion is, it's a delusion in there. And that's what 1695 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. All these artists, Lil Wayne, Drake, Kendrick, I 1696 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 1: don't care who you're talking about. They on that list, 1697 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,639 Speaker 1: they signed to a major and you can talk about 1698 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,760 Speaker 1: they got a better deal. And that's the that's the 1699 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 1: part I'll be trying to make people understand, Like we 1700 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 1: got out of the space of like being, we got 1701 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: into this entrepreneur space and we got out of making 1702 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: deal space. Like you can make a deal. You ain't 1703 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 1: You ain't gotta you don't have, you ain't gotta own it. 1704 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 1: You can go in there and make a deal. You 1705 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 1: can tell niggas exactly what you want. If they fuck 1706 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 1: with you, they gonna take it. If they don't, you 1707 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 1: just keep walking right like this this when when I 1708 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 1: just heard you talking about you getting paid to talk, 1709 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 1: you can't believe that, right, That's what I'm saying. But 1710 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 1: you you doing, you got what you wanted. 1711 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,599 Speaker 4: Yes, that's a fact, exactly what we got what we want. 1712 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, y'all got what y'all wanted. You know, 1713 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 4: you don't get what you asked for. You get what 1714 01:24:58,840 --> 01:24:59,560 Speaker 4: you negotiate. 1715 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 1: Gotta you got to negotiate, And that's that's that's what 1716 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 1: has hurt Atlanta. Atlanta's spirit was that if Dallas Austin 1717 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Winner got a deal, then Kevin Wells will go get 1718 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 1: a deal, Then Divine Stevens will get a deal, and 1719 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 1: then Polo to Done get a deal. And it was 1720 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: like niggas was going out here finding big, big, big, 1721 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 1: big bags. And then it got to a point where 1722 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 1: niggas like, oh, we fuck them, We're gonna do this 1723 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 1: ship by ourself. Yeah, all right, I like to see 1724 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: it to lose your raft and dal who put me on. 1725 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,120 Speaker 1: He was one of the first to move down to 1726 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta from New York. Diamond d Keith Sweat went down 1727 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: there by bo Yeah, your man went down there. 1728 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 4: A lot of guys moved down there. But the part 1729 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 4: of my delusion is right, so Aaron Hor's brother. 1730 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 1: Yo't even gotta say it, you gotta say it. I 1731 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get lower Yo, your kids. Yo. I'm 1732 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: just saying when the Brother the. 1733 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 4: Jamie and the Hall, you know what the fuck I'm 1734 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 4: talking about. He said God was the greatest group. 1735 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Of all time. Now God, just say you feel like that. 1736 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,960 Speaker 1: What's the greatest group of all time? New Addition? Hello? 1737 01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Can you stand the ring? But can you hello? Now? 1738 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,600 Speaker 1: You gotta be delusional to think you're going up the 1739 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,799 Speaker 1: group saying, Hive, you want to know what's crazy. 1740 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,120 Speaker 4: Two days ago we in my pool right friends, family, 1741 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 4: I brought this up and everyone set New Audition. That 1742 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 4: wasn't even a brainiact a thing because you know, my 1743 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,920 Speaker 4: my favorite group of all time is Boys to Men. 1744 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: But still everybody set New Addition. Now, I mean, let 1745 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 1: me say this on the show right now, New Audition 1746 01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 1: is the greatest group in music here, history, period. They're 1747 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 1: the greatest group to ever come out white black, I 1748 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 1: don't care what it is. They're the greatest group to 1749 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:14,520 Speaker 1: ever come out. Reason being everybody went solo and went platinum. Everybody, everybody. 1750 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 1: This ain't happening with the Jackson's, This ain't happening with 1751 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 1: the Four Tops, This ain't having with Temptations, This ain't 1752 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 1: happened with the Backstreet Boys. This ain't happening with insant 1753 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,919 Speaker 1: New Addition. They got BBD, they went platinum, raph Treadsphant 1754 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 1: went platinum, Bobby Brown Records, nobody and their crew didn't 1755 01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 1: he and they all went solo, and they all came back. 1756 01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 4: Because they got real cool with him. We're still cool, 1757 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 4: but we got cool for a time. And I love that, 1758 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 4: you know, I love seeing my O g's doing great. 1759 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 4: You know, I'm waiting for a man the Waldorf in 1760 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 4: l A and the man pull up and the Bentley 1761 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 4: come out with the boat, take a bag with the. 1762 01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 5: Sweet Johnny Gil. That's how I like to see my 1763 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,160 Speaker 5: old g's. I don't like to see my old g's, 1764 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 5: you know, a hip hop. A lot of the old 1765 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 5: g's fucked up in the pockets. But I love to 1766 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 5: see Johnny Gil pull up with that ship on doing fun. 1767 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 1: What happened? He stretching now. But they the greatest, the 1768 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,679 Speaker 1: greatest group. We gotta we should treat New Addition betterment. 1769 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 1: New Addition is the greatest musical group to ever come out. 1770 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: I'm talking about all of these groups. I'm talking about 1771 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,639 Speaker 1: the I'm talking about the rolling songs. I'm talking about 1772 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: all of these artists. If you go, I'm talking about 1773 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: all of these bands, you can say the Rolling Stones, 1774 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 1: you can say all of them. None of them need 1775 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,679 Speaker 1: to have all their artists. They hold about the Beatles. 1776 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 1: Everybody weed it. Who you know. 1777 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 4: When white people get something, they hold on to it, 1778 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 4: whoever d white. When white people get something, they hold lunch. 1779 01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, we need to do the same thing. 1780 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 4: No audition is that they still are outside of Elvis 1781 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 4: House right now. He said, they're still in the Elvis 1782 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 4: House right now, taking tours right now. I'll tell you 1783 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,600 Speaker 4: some white people they won't let that ship go. 1784 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 1: But we need to do the same. Shoot now, we 1785 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 1: need to do that with I'm telling you because you're 1786 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,960 Speaker 1: talking about boys and men. Boys and men came from vivins, 1787 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Yes they did. When your favorite god and then think 1788 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:36,280 Speaker 1: about that. 1789 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm they ain't honest with you. I'm I'm 1790 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:45,599 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a new audition worshiper. I'm just saying, you know, vocally, 1791 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 4: man that boys to man, man, that's hard. That's that's 1792 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 4: that's that's a hard one. They voice and they. 1793 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,719 Speaker 1: They got, they got they do just with new audition. 1794 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,080 Speaker 4: No new audition put them on. So there's no question, 1795 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:08,920 Speaker 4: I'm agreeing. I'm just saying, Damian Hall, shout out to 1796 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 4: Damien listen, we had Jim Jones or no, we had 1797 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,760 Speaker 4: Jim Jones where that shit started out? 1798 01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Just let him keep talking. You see what he said. Kiss, 1799 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 1: he's on my side. You let him keep talking. What 1800 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,880 Speaker 1: do you wanted to do? Stop him? I try to 1801 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:32,040 Speaker 1: stop him. The man kept talking. We try try, Like Josh, 1802 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:35,439 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. 1803 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 4: I realized that man was determined to do that, and 1804 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,759 Speaker 4: he waited for And if we would have said Serena 1805 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,120 Speaker 4: Williams of Venus, he would have. 1806 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,799 Speaker 1: Said, yo, better than nos, like he just was waiting 1807 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 1: for that. That them odds. You pulled up the little 1808 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,839 Speaker 1: guy that did compare. 1809 01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,120 Speaker 4: And what I would have said about what I would 1810 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 4: have said was, hey, it's an honor to be compared 1811 01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 4: with the God. 1812 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,479 Speaker 1: Ain'ty normal person said? It's nothing about with that little. 1813 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,840 Speaker 4: We have a whole new segment called Delution Records out here, 1814 01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,640 Speaker 4: and we're gonna this ship out of control out here 1815 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,640 Speaker 4: like you God, like you, you've been there since the 1816 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,320 Speaker 4: fresh Fast. You got Instagram. You see some of this 1817 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:23,439 Speaker 4: ship sometimes and you just like, yo, this ship. 1818 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean it happened to me every day because it's 1819 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: like a lot of the things that I lived through 1820 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 1: as a child, whatever, it ain't around no more. So 1821 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: it's hard for people to even grasp what I'm talking about. Right, 1822 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's a poster. It's as shows like this 1823 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,760 Speaker 1: is very like it's a post in my studio that's 1824 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,960 Speaker 1: a Cris Crush poster and it says, you know, on 1825 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 1: tour Michael Jackson and people coming there and they like, 1826 01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,760 Speaker 1: I ain't know that happening. Chris Crush went on tour 1827 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, like like I wrote it up there like 1828 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,280 Speaker 1: I did, like this actually happened. 1829 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,800 Speaker 4: You want to know what's crazy is I think if 1830 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,880 Speaker 4: they did a movie of anybody who had interactions of 1831 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 4: any kind of Michael Jackson, I would tune in every day, 1832 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. I'm so intrigued by MJ. 1833 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,200 Speaker 4: That's why I asked you if he said that you 1834 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,160 Speaker 4: got any hille stories with MJ. 1835 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 1: He was Michael Jackson at all time. Though at all times, 1836 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,839 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson was Michael Jackson at all times, even behind 1837 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 1: the scenes, one no one, no one on tour with 1838 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,200 Speaker 1: that he wanted them on tour with them. He wanted, 1839 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 1: he wanted. I mean, you know he's all on Sony, 1840 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,439 Speaker 1: but you know Jump was Jump was huge, right, it 1841 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,720 Speaker 1: was just a big record. And Mike liked he liked Rapp. 1842 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,679 Speaker 1: But people ain't you know what I mean, They wasn't 1843 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,639 Speaker 1: really fine. They didn't know that that's what he was into. 1844 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 1: And he was like that song. Them kids they got it. 1845 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,680 Speaker 1: Ain't took them on tour. And we was having this 1846 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,800 Speaker 1: argument about it because I don't think it's nobody else 1847 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 1: that rap that's ever opened for Michael Jackson besides Chris Krusz. 1848 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 4: No, No, I remember heavy D with Chan Jackson, Remember 1849 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 4: a biggie at the joint with Mike, But nobody did that. 1850 01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 1: You know, I got a crazy story. 1851 01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's mine to tell, but my 1852 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,000 Speaker 4: man five thousand and one, guy five thousand and one. 1853 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 1: He got that budget for that, some kind of crazy 1854 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 1: budget and it never came out as God five thousand 1855 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: and one. 1856 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 4: Rodnee Jerkins calls him, shout out to Rodney Jerkins, the 1857 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:31,120 Speaker 4: game legend, all that Brandy, all that. Uh So he 1858 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 4: tells him, Yo, come to the studio. I got an 1859 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 4: important customer for you. I can't tell you who. So 1860 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 4: guy goes to Sony's studio or something. He got his 1861 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,879 Speaker 4: little notebook with him here, about to take the measurements. 1862 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,560 Speaker 4: It could have been anybody, he said. He went to 1863 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 4: the bathroom and he told Poppy. You know, Poppy cut 1864 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 4: up all the shit, right, So he told Poppy, Poppy, 1865 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,400 Speaker 4: we're gonna be somebody famous. It's like chef if I 1866 01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 4: would have told you, but I don't know. He was like, 1867 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna beat somebody famous. Calm down, Poppy, don't get 1868 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 4: too excited. He didn't know who. So he said he 1869 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,840 Speaker 4: went to use the bathroom and he was about to 1870 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 4: piss and the biggest guys opened the bathroom door and 1871 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,280 Speaker 4: was like they looked and all the shit. 1872 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 1: They was like, all right, you can come in. It's safe. 1873 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,439 Speaker 1: And Michael Jackson walked there, got five thousand and one 1874 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 1: pissed on him, he said, pissed on him, and he 1875 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 1: had the fucking pad in his hands, not trying to cover. 1876 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,680 Speaker 4: He was like, Poppy, let's go, Poppy, let's go. He 1877 01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 4: never got the measure MJ and Noney pissed on himself. 1878 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,880 Speaker 1: And fucking ran out of there. Poppy, Poppy, let's go. 1879 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,680 Speaker 1: Poppy was like, Yo, what what happened? I thought, we 1880 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 1: gotta go. 1881 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,479 Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck out of did if 1882 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,479 Speaker 4: I met Michael Jackson, like, I'm not gonna lie to you. 1883 01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1884 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,960 Speaker 4: What I can tell you is Michael Jackson. The day 1885 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 4: he died, I had to pull the truck over. I 1886 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,040 Speaker 4: was in the Bronx and I started crying for like 1887 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:55,559 Speaker 4: an hour. 1888 01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 3: You know, do you remember if you remember vaguely, it 1889 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,719 Speaker 3: did Madge ship when Mike died his storm ring. 1890 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 1: Hell, or he was on my block under the thing 1891 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:07,720 Speaker 1: it did. 1892 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:12,599 Speaker 3: It's like he was talking to thee. 1893 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,679 Speaker 4: I'll tell you a cap story right now, and nobody's 1894 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,400 Speaker 4: gonna believe me if you wasn't ton there. 1895 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,560 Speaker 1: The Taliban took a day off for MJ. I'm telling you. 1896 01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:32,439 Speaker 4: If he's on seeing that, I'm trying to tell y'all, Yo, yo, 1897 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:33,560 Speaker 4: I'll tell you. 1898 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, let me hear this. I got to 1899 01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:39,640 Speaker 1: hear you out. 1900 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to tell you because I'm not sure 1901 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 4: if everybody I'm seeing that head whether they lied and 1902 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,120 Speaker 4: it was propaganda or whatever it was. When MJ died, 1903 01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:54,320 Speaker 4: they said that the Taliban took a day off and 1904 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 4: they had them dancing around a boombox in the mountains. 1905 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,839 Speaker 4: The Taliban was in there trying to do to Michael Jackson. 1906 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:08,639 Speaker 4: Yo Yo Yo Jay was the biggest ship in the world. 1907 01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I have created. Yo Oh, Jesus Christ. The talent ben 1908 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,439 Speaker 1: taking day off. It's great. She and that said. 1909 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,760 Speaker 4: The Talerman took a day off and they had them 1910 01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:25,080 Speaker 4: dancing around the box. I'm telling you, I. 1911 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,800 Speaker 1: Will say this though, I when I when I talk 1912 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:31,400 Speaker 1: about like being on tour, Michael, It's hard for me 1913 01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 1: to even have a conversation with people because they don't 1914 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 1: actually even want to believe what I saw. Right, Like 1915 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, like Chris Brown, right, they he got the 1916 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,719 Speaker 1: thing where he like he's on the thing, he's flying 1917 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,679 Speaker 1: over flying through the Yeah, Michael had a jet pack 1918 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 1: that he used to put on at the end of 1919 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:51,360 Speaker 1: Billy Jean and he flew out the stadium and left 1920 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:58,880 Speaker 1: no cat. You saw it. You saw it something. 1921 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:05,280 Speaker 6: I believe me, man, I'm not gonna lie seeing it. 1922 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,240 Speaker 6: They got ship to men my Dominican man. My brother 1923 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 6: O Meg got there. The man O Megha was the biggest, 1924 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:17,000 Speaker 6: Like regular, I'm telling you, he showed me it. He 1925 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 6: came in the studio in Miami. Omega was big, but 1926 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 6: he did the Dominican government. They don't let him come 1927 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 6: over here no more. He came us. He thought he 1928 01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 6: was the first guy to say I'm never going back. 1929 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,200 Speaker 6: So he used to come in my studio all the time. 1930 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 6: Lamborghinis for ri. 1931 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 4: Omega is the first big Like I don't want to 1932 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,760 Speaker 4: say it, but he was like a bad bunny at 1933 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 4: that time, right selling out Madison Square Guard. So he 1934 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,879 Speaker 4: came one day and showed me that ship on YouTube 1935 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:46,800 Speaker 4: or something, and he said he was gonna do it. 1936 01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,639 Speaker 4: He said, I'm doing the stadium. I'm gonna fly out 1937 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 4: the stadium. He said, you see Michael Jackson, He's flying 1938 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,519 Speaker 4: out the stadium. He showed me the ship. 1939 01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,320 Speaker 1: He went back. It went back to the backstairs and 1940 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:00,880 Speaker 1: the car was back there the way they was gone. 1941 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,840 Speaker 1: Who fuck told him how to do this? I actually 1942 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,160 Speaker 1: don't believe it was him, you know what I mean. 1943 01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,599 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is which, this is a little dangerous, 1944 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:13,320 Speaker 4: but every show Mike going over. 1945 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. 1946 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 4: God bless Chris Brown's trying to die on that thing. 1947 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:23,320 Speaker 4: He's not just flying in the air. He's like you 1948 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,800 Speaker 4: ever seen like little kids diving in the pool trying 1949 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 4: to crack they head Like, dude, you like like every 1950 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,840 Speaker 4: time this guy's fwind in the air doing flip like 1951 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,560 Speaker 4: one hundred miles to our Chris Brown. 1952 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,439 Speaker 1: Like he believe in them wires or whatever he doing 1953 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 1: on that ship because he test the speed. 1954 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,559 Speaker 4: I dare you test the speed of him and anybody 1955 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,960 Speaker 4: else who did that ship. Chris Brown is doing it 1956 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,000 Speaker 4: on like I swear to God, I look at it 1957 01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 4: and I'll. 1958 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 1: Be like yo. But he has to go that fast 1959 01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:54,880 Speaker 1: to get across this The stadium is too big, man. 1960 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,760 Speaker 1: I ain't doing none of that ship. 1961 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,120 Speaker 3: Before we get out of here. You can't let you 1962 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 3: go without talking about health and wellness. You turned vegan 1963 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,040 Speaker 3: some years ago, got products, ice cream, drinks and hold 1964 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:07,560 Speaker 3: us about that. 1965 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean I've been vegan almost almost twenty 1966 01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:15,760 Speaker 1: five years, twenty three years now. No chicken, No none 1967 01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,240 Speaker 1: of that chicken, No beef. 1968 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:18,720 Speaker 5: You know what it is. 1969 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:25,840 Speaker 4: No pisketeer, no, no, none of that clip Scott wanted 1970 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,960 Speaker 4: to live alone and I actually I actually went vegan. 1971 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:33,639 Speaker 4: I was at Quincy Jones House and Ray Charles's Ray CHARLDS. 1972 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 4: So he was talking to Ray Charles and Ray Charles, 1973 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,880 Speaker 4: just Ray Charles on his death Ray Charles, Ray Charles 1974 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 4: on his deathbed and Quincy was paying all his bills 1975 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,160 Speaker 4: and the doctor bills, and Ray Charles called him from 1976 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:49,280 Speaker 4: the from the hospital. 1977 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,360 Speaker 1: Ray was like, Quincy, I'm done. I'm gonna just gone 1978 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 1: and die and Q was like, no, you're not. I'm 1979 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,120 Speaker 1: paying for the best doctors and all this to come 1980 01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 1: over here. And they was having this crazy ass conversation 1981 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 1: on the phone and Ray Charl's like, nah, nah, we 1982 01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,840 Speaker 1: done fucked all the girls. We didn't. We didn't ate 1983 01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 1: all the steaks we coul possibly do. He was really like, 1984 01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 1: he was like I'm ready. I'm tired. I ain't gonna 1985 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,680 Speaker 1: keep going through this. And Q was like, man, C 1986 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,320 Speaker 1: j D. That's why you gotta take care of your health. 1987 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,720 Speaker 1: Don't be doing no drugs. And and he when he 1988 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,240 Speaker 1: told me that, it just was like click, I gotta 1989 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 1: I gotta kick in, because you know what I mean. 1990 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 1: I felt really really I felt bad because it was 1991 01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,280 Speaker 1: Ray Charles basically saying he was done. Q was trying 1992 01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,519 Speaker 1: to keep him alive. He was doing all he could do, 1993 01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,800 Speaker 1: but Ray Charles. You know, he was on heroin. He 1994 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 1: just whatever he was feeling. He was ready to go. 1995 01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,360 Speaker 1: But I but it made me say, ship, I ain't 1996 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,320 Speaker 1: ready to you know, I ain't ready to go. Then 1997 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,200 Speaker 1: I sit in the studio so many hours and we 1998 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:50,920 Speaker 1: eat waffle House and this, that and the third and 1999 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 1: all this ship. That shit ain't good for you. It ain't. 2000 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:55,680 Speaker 1: It ain't good for you if you're sitting around and 2001 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,680 Speaker 1: you ain't doing no exercise, being if I can't eat 2002 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 1: his steak and no ship like that, check me out, 2003 01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 1: rock up. I don't want anything. Motherfucker. 2004 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 4: Styles Fee His brother took me to some ship in 2005 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 4: Miami and he was like, this is sho. I ran 2006 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,800 Speaker 4: out of there, ate peanut butter crunch so fast in 2007 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:25,120 Speaker 4: the house. He said, look at you. You're walking in 2008 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,360 Speaker 4: like you're mad. I must have walked in with the 2009 01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:30,920 Speaker 4: ice girl was like Steves, my brother. He was like, 2010 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 4: look at this. 2011 01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: You come because Spotsy. 2012 01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,760 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here 2013 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:44,639 Speaker 4: to that pet come with confette so fucking fast. Oh 2014 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 4: my god, I've been able to do a lot of things. 2015 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,160 Speaker 4: I really don't, you know, I don't smoke. I don't 2016 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,559 Speaker 4: really I can't do eat. 2017 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 1: He can't eat vegan. Man. I gotta, I gotta, I 2018 01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 1: gotta taste that ship. That being said, Oh my god, 2019 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 1: this ain't that. That ain't this. Yeah, it's cracking. Kiss one, 2020 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 1: thank I guess, Jermaine. The three Flowing on the Joke 2021 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:19,559 Speaker 1: Royalty Royalty the volume