1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: you to go subscribe to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: Show podcast. You will, I think, absolutely love being able 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: to take the show anywhere with you. You can also 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: download the iHeartRadio app and go that direction to be 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: able to listen to us no matter where you are, 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: all over the country and indeed all around the world. Buck, 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: we went to break talking about the revelations in that 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: tablet article about Barack Obama, and I know you talked 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: about it last week. I actually want to circle back around, 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: and I came on with you for fifteen or twenty 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: minutes on Wednesday because every time it seems like I 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: take a vacation, Trump actually gets indicted. We're now two 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: times I've missed twice for this summer. Both times Trump 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: has gotten indicted in federal court, both in South Florida 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: and now in Washington, d C. And there is now 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: a possible try indictment coming in Atlanta. I will be 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: there on Thursday. I was there much a last week. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: They have shut down the streets around the Federal Court, 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: around the courthouse there as they get ready for the 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: state charges to be filed. But I want to talk 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: more about these Trump charges, in particular in Washington, d C. 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: With you for a moment. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: I have looked at this, I've read this indictment, and 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: I think many people are missing what is the most 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: important defense that is out there for Trump, and that 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: is this, Buck, And I mentioned this with you on Wednesday, 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: when you boil down what Jack Smith is attempting to 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: charge related to these four conspiracies on January sixth, He's 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: essentially criminalizing the legal advice that Donald Trump got. And 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people talk about the First 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: Amendment and certainly there is a defense there. And I 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: hear a lot of people talk about the precedent that 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: is being set and how awful it is, and I 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: agree with both of those things. But I hear very 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: few people talking about what I think is the best 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: defense for Trump that could lead to these charges being tossed. 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: And it is this. And I want to bring this 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: home for everybody. Buck. I have set around conference room 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: tables with room full of lawyers before as all the 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: lawyers debate, Hey, what's the best defense here? How could 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: we file a lawsuit on this angle? What's the most 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: compelling And I'll give you a fun story. When I 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: was a young attorney, we were filing a lawsuit on 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: behalf of a ambulatory care center, if I remember correctly, 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and it was basically what services they were allowed to argue. 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: And I remember I looked into and read everything that 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I could about this because they wanted me to draft 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: the lawsuit that was filed to allow this hospital, this 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: ambulatory center, to be able to do more procedures. And 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I wrote what I thought was an incredibly compelling lawsuit, 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: and I took it to the managing not the managing partner, 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: the name partner right, the partner's name that's on the 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: law firm. And I made out my case and I 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: laid it out. I was twenty five. 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: You know you're full of you think you're the most 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: brilliant lawyer who's ever existed. I made my whole case, 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: and I remember his response, and his response was, that's aggressive. 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: That is that is interesting in theory. 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: It's a huge loser, and it's beyond the bounds of 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: what we should be arguing legally. 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Then we brought in other lawyers, and other lawyers heard 66 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: the theory and they were like, you know what, that's 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: actually kind of an interesting theory that might work. 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: And so when you file a lawsuit or. 69 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: When you provide a defense, it's not uncommon for many 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: lawyers to have a variety of different perspectives on what 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: might or might not work. And the reason why I 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: bring that up is is that's the essence of being 73 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: a lawyer, because all you do is analyze probabilities. And 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: it's why very often legal arguments are we believe X, 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: but in the event X isn't true, we believe why, 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: And in the event why isn't true, we believe Z. 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: And Trump might have had an aggressive interpretation of what 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: the law allowed Mike Pence to do on January sixth, 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: and what he was allowed to do in terms of 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: putting forward a new slate of electors. But I don't 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: think that's criminal. And I think it's really scary to 82 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: argue that you can criminalize a legal argument because many 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 2: legal arguments that seem crazy. I'll give you one. People 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: would say, oh, the idea that gay people are ever 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: going to get married in nineteen ninety four. You might 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: have gotten laughed out of a courtroom if you had 87 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: tried to make that argument. But by the time we 88 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: got to whatever it was and Oberfel becomes law, that 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: was compelling. Every dissent is a my Nordy opinion in 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, but it's often setting forth the precedent 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: that will allow a case to be overturned. And so 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: when I and then and then then This is a 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: huge part of this argument too. 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: Buck. 95 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: In December of twenty twenty two, I believe it was 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: they changed the law on how what the vice president's 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: role is going to be on the January sixth equivalent. 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: If you are changing the law, how on its face 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: is there not a colorable legal argument that could be 100 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: made that what Mike Pence was doing and the new 101 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: slate of electors and sending it back to the States 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: wasn't in some way a legal ambiguity that some people 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: could believe was actually a legitimate legal argument. I think 104 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: this is an open and shut case. I don't understand 105 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: how from a legal perspective there are allowed to be 106 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: charges brought when the law was changed to keep Trump's 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: legal argument from being able to be advanced. To me, 108 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: that's a sign that there was ambiguity and that everything 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: Trump argued and the lawyers who advised him argued is 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: in fact legally acceptable and there's no conspiracy at all, 111 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: because all he was doing was putting forward a legal argument. 112 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: I think all this just will end up coming down 113 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: if it is put to a jury to what people 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: think of Trump in all of this, not just Trump period, 115 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: but Trump in the midst of all of this. The 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: legal realities of it almost feels like it's so politicized, 117 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: and it's so obviously it's so obvious that this has 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: been done to create massive influence going into the twenty 119 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: twenty four election that I'm not even sure. I'll put 120 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: it to you this way. If I were sitting on well, 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a right wing lunatic five, but if 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: I were sitting on a jury in this instance, and 123 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: I knew what was going on here with like, it's 124 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: impossible to find someone who doesn't already have a lot 125 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: of opinions on all of this. Right, this is this 126 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: is not you know, did you know did doctor Kimball 127 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: murder his wife or was it the one armed man? 128 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: And no, you know what I mean, Like, this is 129 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: something that everybody is at some level opinionated on, and 130 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I just think that it's very hard when you get 131 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: into the legal realities of it, to separate these things out. 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, they're criminalizing. They're criminalizing this legal theory 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: or the usage of legal theories, which is really bad 134 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: for our system, maclay. They're also prosecuting their chief political 135 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: rival and election year, right, Like it's just all all 136 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: the arguments related to norms and process are overshadowed, if 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: not crushed, by the thuggish reality of what they're doing. 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean. It's it's like we're 139 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: sitting here and we're watching you ever seen like indoor 140 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: men's league soccer, Like indoor soccer played, it's like six 141 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: on six or whatever it is. We're the team right 142 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: now is running around like, hey, you know, I think 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: they're not really playing and they're just they're knocking people's 144 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: teeth out with elbows. They're given the ref a five 145 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars bill, you know, five hundred dollars in bills. 146 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Like it's just sort of so far beyond in many 147 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: ways the legal niceties of all like well, he has 148 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: rights and there's a system, and yeah, the process is 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: playing out. But I mean in DC he's got the most. Actually, 150 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: Julie Kelly said he had the second most anti Trump 151 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: judge possible, just to be fair, she said, there's one 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: who's worse. But this is the second most anti Trump 153 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: judge and the entire DC circuit, of all the judges 154 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: in the most anti Trump jurisdiction. I think Trump is 155 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: probably more hated in Washington, d C. Than he even 156 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: is in San Francisco, based on you know, because that's 157 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: the other city that's ninety five percent plus Democrat. So 158 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing is unfair and a sham at that level, 159 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So, so, yes, criminalizing 160 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: legal theory, and yes, that has enormous ramifications for the 161 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: legal system for other people in their process going forward. 162 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, they've crossed the rubicon so many times 163 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to change the name of the river. 164 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: It doesn't even you know, it's it doesn't have any 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: impact anymore. 166 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my theory on it is, I don't 167 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: see any way that this case stands. I think the 168 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: Supreme Court in the same way that it was the 169 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: governor in Virginia, and I believe that was also a 170 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: Jack Smith case who got hit with bribery and convicted, 171 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court, I believe it was nine to zero, 172 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: tossed the case and said, this isn't an evidence of 173 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: bribery based on the facts, this isn't a crime. Having 174 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: an aggressive legal defense is not a crime. Let me 175 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: give you another example, Buck. When I was practicing law, 176 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 2: crime law, I was involved in a murder case. The 177 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: defense in the murder case, I swear to you this 178 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: was the truth. They defended the client that I would 179 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: representing on appeal. His attorney did by saying he wasn't 180 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: responsible for the murder because the reason why the murder 181 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: ended up happening was because the hospital wanted to harvest 182 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: the organs of the guy who had been shot by 183 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: the murder alleged murder. The defense argument at trial was 184 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: our client's not guilty of murder. The reason this guy 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: died was because they took him off of life saving 186 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: materials because they wanted to harvest his organs to use 187 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: to give to other people on an organ donor basis. 188 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: I read the entire trial transcript. I said, this is 189 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: the dumbest legal argument i've ever seen. The defense was. 190 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, he shot him, but. 191 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: He's not responsible for the murder because he was on 192 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: life support. They turned off the life support because they 193 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: wanted his organs. Therefore it was not a murder. 194 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: All right. 195 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: I was involved in the appeal. You know what the 196 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: judge on the appeal said, and I'm paraphrasing here, this 197 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: was a really interesting and creative legal defense. There was 198 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: no ineffectiveness of counsel at trial. I think it's the 199 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: dumbest argument I've ever heard. You're not even saying your 200 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: guy didn't shoot somebody. You're saying he's not responsible for 201 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: the murder because the organs wanted to be harvested by 202 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: the hospital so they could give him to somebody else. 203 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: Stupidest argument I've ever seen. The court analyzed it ineffectiveness 204 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: of council claim. They said that was really creative and interesting, 205 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: and this was not an effectiveness of counsel. My point 206 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: is there is a wide expanse of legal representation that 207 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: is countenanced by the court system in general, and if 208 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: that wasn't ineffectiveness of counsel, what you're trying to do 209 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: is figure out how to win, and sometimes that requires 210 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: you come up with creative legal arguments. You can't criminalize 211 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: creative legal arguments. The entire law is based on being 212 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: able to allow creative legal arguments. And I'm not hearing 213 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: anybody on the Trump team hammering this angle. I think 214 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: it's the most single compelling element of Trump's defense, and 215 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: I believe the Supreme Court is going to toss all 216 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: of the Jan six charges based on this. Isn't a conspiracy, 217 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: it's just a legal argument. If Trump beats all of 218 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: these cases, either through a judge tossing it out, the 219 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: Supreme Court intervening a jury finding him not guilty, how 220 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: and any iteration of this, does that then make him effectively, 221 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: in your mind, unstoppable for twenty twenty four. 222 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: Well, so here's the challenge it will take. How does 223 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: this go with independence? Do they say, Oh, he's an 224 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: innocent man, he's fine, it's good, Or do they say 225 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: they can't handle the circus anymore. Well, here's what I think. 226 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: I think Jack Smith knows this deep down. I think 227 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: he knows that his Jan six charges are garbage. I 228 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: wonder if they're waiting to blame the Supreme Court and 229 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: argue Trump rigged the system in his favor because the 230 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Trump Supreme Court, which is made up of Amy Cony, 231 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Barrett Gorsch, and Kavanaugh, would likely be in the majority 232 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: tossing this case. And it doesn't matter what the charges are. 233 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Guess what you know that Katanji, Brown, Jackson, and Sonia 234 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: side my Oar and even I would say the most 235 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: rational of that group on the liberal wing, Kagan, with 236 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: our Harvard background, They'll say these charges were legit. And 237 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: so I think you're setting up for a six ' 238 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: to three look at Trump. He rigged the Supreme Court 239 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: to keep himself from being held accountable. And I wonder 240 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: whether now I don't know the timeframe of how long 241 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: that could take, but I think that's the ultimate Trump card, 242 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: so to speak of the left is they're going to 243 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: attack the Supreme Court, which then what does it give 244 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: you buck We can court pack, we can add new justice, 245 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: or there's a rig job. In effect, they can't lose 246 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: based on the way that they have laid out this case. 247 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I just wonder if any of this really 248 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: moves voters in either directors or great question said and done, 249 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: or if it really will just turn into no one's 250 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: changing their mind. About any of this stuff at this point, 251 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: and so it's just the voter turnout machinery that's going 252 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: to determine whether you know whether a Democrat is able 253 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: to win again or win this time. 254 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: I think the best argument for Trump winning in twenty four, 255 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: if it's Trump v. Biden, is the eighty one million. 256 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: A significant portion of them don't show up because the 257 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: argument that Biden made of he'll restore normalcy in America, 258 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: he hasn't actually done it, and I think turnout could 259 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: be down. 260 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: That's my fear. I could be wrong on this, but 261 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: I think a Trump vehicle, the Trump voters are more 262 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: likely to show up than the Biden voters are. I 263 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: think that's how you win. 264 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: Look news of another big data breach of a healthcare company, 265 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: this time. This time companies called Maximus Federal Services. 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And he had an event, 291 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna let you listen to how that 292 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: event went over the weekend. Play four good thing. 293 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: We have a Republican General Assembly keeping the governor in 294 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: check and Finder's life, Jandy Palmer and Ran Paul in 295 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: Washington holding Biden accountable, and in the Senate. In the Senate, 296 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: I'm working to make sure Kentucky punches above its weight. 297 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: I fought from as to rebuild East and West Kentucky 298 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: after disass is struck, and I'm making sure he rose 299 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: in law enforcement, gip what they need to crack down 300 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: on crime and plug the holes and Biden US open borders. 301 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean Clay Can, I I mean people, if they're 302 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: having a hard time hearing it, that's the point is, 303 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: for five minutes at his own event, he was heckled 304 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: by people shouting retire and shame on you after his 305 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: his situation where he spaced out. Remember that. 306 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, so do we know Buck and I heard this audio. 307 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: Are these Republicans or did Democrats just storm the event 308 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: and heckle him? Because look, I know Mitch McConnell is 309 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: not very popular with all of our listeners in Kentucky. 310 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: There are a lot of Republicans that are fed up 311 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: with him. 312 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: There're gonna be left wing activists, right, I mean, I 313 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: don't think Republicans would do. I mean, he's he's an 314 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: old man, he's too old. But can we come back? 315 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: We need to talk about this because I think it's 316 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: a big story. We will. There's talk this year that 317 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: we could see a new digital version of our currency 318 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: thanks to the federal government. One of the prominent voices 319 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: in this conversation is former Wall Street insider and writer 320 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Tika Twari. He sees our government even potentially announcing a 321 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: mandatory national recall in the US dollar, timing on this 322 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: could be just in a matter of months. He's exposing 323 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: this government plan in a video he's created with his 324 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: team to show you the three steps you need to 325 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: take to prepare. You can see the video online. Go 326 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: to Dollar recall dot com to watch this video and 327 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: learn from it. Again, that's Dollar recall dot Com. Learn 328 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: how you can take action to prepare in case a 329 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: central bank digital currency does get rolled out? What will 330 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: happen that, what will do the markets? What will do 331 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: to your retirement accounts? A lot of questions out there. 332 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: Go check out what Tikatwari has to say at dollar 333 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Recall dot com paid for by Palm Beach Research Groups. 334 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 335 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. So we went to 336 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: break Buck. You were playing audio of Mitch McConnell in 337 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: Kentucky and that was Democrat Activist is a public event, probably, 338 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: but also maybe some picnic. 339 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: So what was it, the fancy farm picnic? I've been told, Okay, 340 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: fancy farm picnic. We talked about this and some of 341 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: our listeners called in after Mitch McConnell had his moment 342 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: where he appeared to freeze and then come back and 343 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: said he was fine. We know that he's had several 344 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: falling incidents. Again, he's not young, he's over eighty and 345 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: like many of the people that are currently representing us 346 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C, health has been a major concern. 347 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: Whether it's Joe Biden, whether it's Mitch McConnell, whether it's 348 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein sadly, whether it's John Fetterman. Okay, So we 349 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that the state of Kentucky passed 350 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: a bill that says the legislature, which is overwhelmingly led 351 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: by Republicans, has the ability because the governor is a Democrat. 352 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: And this surprise a lot of people. The election is 353 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: coming on this November. Daniel Cameron, who I believe we're 354 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: going to have on, is the nominee. We're going to 355 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: have him on this week. He's running against Basheer, who 356 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: is the sitting Democrat governor seeking reelection. He won in 357 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: an upset in twenty nineteen. He's now seeking to be 358 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: re elected in twenty twenty three. So the issue here is, 359 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: and I think this is a big deal that a 360 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: lot of you need to pay attention to. Why is 361 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: Mitch mcconnald's health such a focus. Why have Democrats really 362 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: dove into Mitch McConnell when you think about Dianne Feinstein's 363 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: obviously far worse off. She's ninety, She's still representing California. 364 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: John Fetterman can barely talk. He's still representing Pennsylvania. It's 365 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: because the governor of Kentucky, Andy Basheer, has said publicly 366 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: that he does not believe that the law that was 367 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: passed by the Kentucky legislature is actually constitutional, and that 368 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: law all requires that the governor appoint someone from a 369 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: list of three nominees that would be provided by the 370 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: legislature in the event that a Republican has to step 371 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: down and you have a Democrat in the governor's officer 372 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: vice versa. Andy Basheer said he doesn't believe this is 373 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: constitutional because it replaces the prior authority that the governor 374 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: had to select someone of his own choosing. Why is 375 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: this significant. We are basically at a fifty to fifty 376 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: Senate buck. I think if Andy Basheer is re elected 377 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: in November, that is in about three or four months, 378 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: that in the event that Mitch McConnell for the next 379 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: four years or that I think he's serving through twenty 380 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: twenty six, has any sort of health related condition, Kentucky's governor, 381 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: if he's a Democrat, is going to appoint a Democrat, 382 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: and he's going to dare the courts to say you 383 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: don't have the ability to do this, meaning there may 384 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: there may be a void in terms of who's representing 385 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: there while there's a court or that Democrat may even 386 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: be allowed to get seated. So I would just impress 387 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: upon all of our listeners in Kentucky, your governor does 388 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: not believe that the law that was passed to allow 389 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: a Republican to succeed Mitch McConnell is constitutional, and I 390 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: think he'll challenge it, and he will appoint a Democrat 391 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: to replace Mitch McConnell if he can. That's why Democrats 392 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: are paying a lot of attention to Mitch McConnell right now. 393 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: And so if you're out there and you think I 394 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: don't like Mitch McConnell, I don't think he's doing a 395 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 2: great job. I understand that argument, certainly, but understand that 396 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: the governor of Kentucky, who is a Democrat, believes that 397 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: he has the authority to put a Democrat in to 398 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: replace Mitch McConnell, which, in the event we're still sitting 399 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: around a fifty to fifty Senate even after twenty twenty four, 400 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: if this guy is reelected, could decide control of the Senate. 401 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: I will say that there was a whole cult of RBG. 402 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Remember this, yep, and I was this is before you 403 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: and I teamed up, Clay. I would talk of my 404 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: show about how this obsession with the Ruth Bader Ginsburg 405 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: workout routine and yep, this pretense that Ruth Bader Ginsburg 406 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: is some cool pop culture figure, and there were little 407 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: dolls and figurines being made about her all that this 408 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: whole thing there was a bizarre and it only happened 409 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: at the very end of her life cult of RBG. 410 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: And there was this whole calculation that people were trying democrats, 411 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: where Democrats were making saying, look, you got to retire, 412 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: you know, you got to retire while we have a 413 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: Democrat to replace you. And sure enough they decided to 414 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: go a different or she decided to go a different route, 415 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: and it had an impact. These things matter, you know, 416 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: these rules that we have in place about appointments and 417 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: succession for people who have won elected office, and what 418 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: happens there can have a pretty pretty major impact. So 419 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: assuming that that legal, and it's even more than just 420 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: the legal interpret if the governor says that statute is 421 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: invalid and it's just going to do it, I assume 422 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: there'll be some process. But you know that it might 423 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: be it might be interesting. You don't know how that's 424 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna turn out, That's what I'm saying. So it's a 425 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: risk either way. 426 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 2: So, and what I would say to Kentuckians is you 427 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: can eliminate that risk by putting Daniel Cameron and his governor, 428 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: because then he would appoint a Republican. There would be 429 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: no constitutional uncertainty, there'd be no legal battle over this. 430 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: So we have been Cameron on this week. I believe 431 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: we are. 432 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: Indeed I believed Wednesday we're gonna have Daniel Cameron on. 433 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: But if you're in Kentucky, this is a big deal. 434 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: Don't think just because the law was changed that it's 435 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: going to maintain its viability. Let's take some calls. I 436 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: don't think we've taken any calls so far. Let's do 437 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: during the course of the show. Rick in Virginia Beach, 438 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 2: what you got for us? 439 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I appreciate you laying down all the hard 440 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: work yield are doing. This question is for Clay about 441 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: your book with all the fifty of the country Lean 442 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: and Live. Do you do you imagine and you're gonna 443 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 4: be able to break through to those fifty And of 444 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: that fifty percent, how many of those people do you 445 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 4: think you'd be able to switch their mind? 446 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Well? I think on it. 447 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, and for people out there 448 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: who are just getting in. Amazon has not updated the 449 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: rankings yet. I'm asking you all to help me. I'll 450 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: be out at let me make sure I get this right. 451 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: Bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey, tonight at six o'clock Eastern, 452 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: doing the first book signing. The book is American Playbook. 453 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: Go buy it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. Drive this 454 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: up right now, we're still sitting at fifteen four hundred 455 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: and twenty two. I want to be in the top 456 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: one thousand when the book launches tomorrow, and I want 457 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: you guys to help make it happen. 458 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: Drive it up. I'll give you an update tomorrow. 459 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: I think Buck, if a lot of people who are persuadable, 460 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: middle of the road read this book, I think they 461 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: would agree with almost everything in it. And it doesn't 462 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: take that many people, given how close elections are, to 463 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: be able to swing the outcome. 464 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: I like to think my book could help. When was 465 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: the last time somebody came to you and said, I 466 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: was full on live and you helped in my conversion 467 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: to sanity. I will say, because I had this, yeah, 468 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: more concentrated during COVID than any period of my life. 469 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: I had people that had known me in childhood who 470 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: are like, I didn't agree with you, and I thought 471 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: you're some right wing lunatic and I always say to that, 472 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: thank you, And I thought that, and then I listened 473 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: to you during COVID and you were the only one 474 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: who was, you know, the only one that they were 475 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: listening to that was telling them the truth. It does. 476 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: It happens fairly regularly, which is Buck. I guarantee there'll 477 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: be some people at this New Jersey book signing tonight 478 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: who said, I used to think you were crazy. I 479 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: started listening to you, and Buck, I started reading out Kick, 480 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: and now I agree with you. 481 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: It happens all the time. I do believe. 482 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: If you don't believe that, then I don't know how 483 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: you make the arguments every day that we do. My 484 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: goal is to win, and I will resu persuade a 485 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: couple every day. I'm sure we have independence who listened. 486 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: We hear from them, all the Democrats. 487 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm but I mean, like, like, have you do you 488 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: think you've ever been able to convert somebody in recent 489 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: memory who was who was a full on lib like 490 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: an actual a person who believes Joe Biden is doing 491 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: a great job. Nancy Pelosi is a is a wonderful 492 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: elder stateswoman, and you know men can get pregnant, you 493 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like if you had one of those. 494 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: I just wonder do we ever break through to the 495 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: true Madias on the other side, because I know independence 496 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: love us. Yeah, I remember fun last summer talking to 497 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: a guy at the beach from North Carolina came up 498 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: to me and said, I bought into the Joe Biden 499 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: lie I voted for him in North Carolina. Okay, here 500 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: we go. I listened to you, and I will not 501 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: make that mistake again. Yeah, No, there we go. I 502 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: also will say it has been my experience and this 503 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: is this is really true. I mean I can think 504 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: about this almost without exception that the people you think 505 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: of as right wing, I mean quite honestly, if you 506 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: miked up Clay and me and some of your other 507 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: folks out there and just heard how we are in 508 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: everyday lives, we believe this stuff and talk about this 509 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: and think this all the way. I know a lot 510 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: of people that are in that, particularly that CNN world, 511 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: but also who they're like, well, I mean, I don't 512 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: really think men can get pregnant. Like They'll say that 513 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: to you privately, yes, but they will not say anything 514 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: like that publicly ever. And I mean that's that's a 515 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: reality that the left I think deals with, particularly left 516 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: wing media, deals with all the time, because I mean 517 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: they say stuff. No one really believes the stuff that 518 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: they're supposed to say. I mean, no normal person think 519 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: about this. 520 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: Not one House or Senate member voted that you should 521 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: play sports against your gender. You can't tell me that 522 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: all those Democrats with daughters actually believe that a dude 523 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: should be able to win a women's sports and be 524 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: a women's Athlete of the Year. 525 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: They don't believe it. They lie. 526 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: David and Wisconsin, what you got for us? 527 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 5: Given the demographic of DC. We've talked a lot about 528 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: how the probability of Trump getting a fair trial is 529 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 5: next to nothing. But oh, I wanted to advocate for 530 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: a minute, Clay. Last year we talked about a story 531 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: where there was a reporter and someone else I can't 532 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 5: remember who it was, going door to door in DC 533 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: asking people about what they thought about COVID Fauci. And 534 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 5: one of the guys was an African American gentleman and 535 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 5: they asked him and he basically laughed in their face 536 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 5: and read them the Riot Act. And you know, they 537 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: didn't expect that, Yeah, all we need is one guy 538 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: on that jury to say, you know what I see 539 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 5: right through this BS in the African American community, they're 540 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: especially cautious of law enforcement and overhanded, heavy handed law enforcement. 541 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 5: So all we need is one guy. I wouldn't give 542 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 5: up hope that he you know that there might be 543 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 5: that one. 544 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Can I jump in. We're definitely not giving up hope 545 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: on any of this. And you're totally correct in that 546 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: all it takes is one person on that jury. But 547 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: I think we can all see they're taking as they're 548 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: taking as many shots here as they can, from as 549 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: many places as they can Trump, just to make it 550 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: a numbers game, to make it a probability situation as 551 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: much as anything else. Remember, we have a criminal case 552 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: in New York City, soon to have a criminal case 553 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia, two federal indictments. That's you just start 554 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: to add it up and say, well, what happens. I 555 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: you've got a jury that just kind of hates Trump. 556 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: You only need one to that guy's credit. The video 557 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: he's referencing Buck was in the Fauci documentary The PBS Frontline. 558 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I remember this. It was he recorded. 559 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: It was Fauci with the cameras, and Fauci thought it 560 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: made him look good. But a you know, probably thirty 561 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: five to forty year old black guy on a porch 562 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: just peppered him with questions about the COVID shot and 563 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: why he didn't want to get it. And the guy 564 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: who's just a smart, normal, common sense guy looked like 565 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: the hero for many people out there. And there are 566 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: and I've said this for a while, buck many people 567 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: listening right now who will have the opportunity to sit 568 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: on one of these juries right. 569 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: You'll get called. I really believe that. 570 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: I think you, look at all the evidence you have to, 571 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: in my opinion, say not guilty, stick to it, and 572 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: refuse to allow this jury to convict based on the 573 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: precedent that it's setting in either South Florida or in DC. 574 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: I really believe some of our listeners will have that opportunity, 575 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: and i'd encourage you to make sure that you show up. 576 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: This is one jury trial you don't want to try 577 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: to get out of. You want to try to get 578 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: on because what you could do could defend liberty for 579 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: generations to come. I really do believe that. Look, I 580 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: want to tell you, students, begin heading back to college 581 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: the next thirty days. Do you think they'll be learning 582 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: about our nation's founding principles, the ones that made America 583 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: the freest, most prosperous nation in history. Will they be 584 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: given a full and honest account of our nation's history. 585 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: If the students you're thinking about are Hillsdale College undergrads, 586 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: the answers yes. I can't say the same for college 587 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: students going everywhere, but the chances are frankly not good. 588 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: Hillsdale College educates their students on our nation's full history, 589 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, how we've improved from our mistakes 590 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: along the way, and beyond the campus, Hillsdale's extended its 591 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: teak through twelve students and lifelong learners like you and me. 592 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: If you're not doing so already, one of the best 593 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: ways to start learning from our friends at Hillsdale is 594 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: through Imprimus Hillsdale, Hillsdale's monthly publication. 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That's Clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com. 601 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: Learn laugh, and join us on the weekend on our 602 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. 603 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: Fight it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 604 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: your podcasts. 605 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: We are closing up shop here for the day on 606 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. We will miss all of you for 607 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: about twenty one hours or so. But the great news 608 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: is that you can listen to us, including content you 609 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: won't hear anywhere else, like the Tutor Dixon podcast on 610 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis En Buck Sexton Show podcast stream. You 611 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: just subscribe to Clay and Buck Show. Download the iHeartRadio app. 612 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: That's the best way to get it done, free app. 613 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: It's really phenomenal. I listen to it, honestly, I listen 614 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: to the iHeart app. I use it every day. So 615 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: I'll check in on our friend Mark Simone the morning 616 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: for example, Clay, but I don't getting ready. Mark Simon 617 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: does an amazing show up in New York. I know 618 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: you were on his show earlier today on w o 619 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: R N YC. But you know, listen to some of 620 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: the folks. Check out what what Glenn's doing over there 621 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: in Dallas. The iHeart Radio app gives you a lot 622 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: of well, you can listen to tons of stuff, all 623 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: the stations, all all your favorite hosts and shows. We 624 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: got Tutor Dixon on the show tomorrow with us, which 625 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: is exciting. Tutor is always really interesting. And I will 626 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: tell you, Clay, one of the this was a very 627 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: I'd share with you, a very Florida thing, you know, 628 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: I know, Oh there's all these you were gone. We 629 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: talked about the otter story, but you know what I'm talking. 630 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I read all about this. This The three 631 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: women were attacked and one of them otters, the northern 632 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: otter in the US, I think, only gets up to 633 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty pounds, so it's like the size of 634 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: a kind of small to medium miss sized dog. But 635 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: it it. You know, they're nasty, parent and they swim fast. 636 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: They're nasty. They bit this woman. She had to be airlifted. 637 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: When I was doing my training course at at Miami 638 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Shooters Club, there's an outdoor range we went to and 639 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: they said, hey, guys, if you're going to go and 640 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, use the outdoor facilities. Shall we say, if 641 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: you catch my drift, there's a little pathway, but just 642 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: be careful for alligators. And we all kind of laughed 643 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: and they were like, no, you're next to the everglades, 644 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: not like be careful about alligators. I had a moment. 645 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I've never really been told to 646 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: watch out for the alligators before. It was a very 647 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: Florida moment, you know, I mean, just just be careful. 648 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't want you to have to be like that 649 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: guy who went in and you know, I still think 650 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: one of the great heroes out. 651 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: The cigar with the puppy that tried to grab his 652 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: puppy and he kept he kept his h his cigar 653 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: in his mouth the whole time. 654 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he went into water to save his puppy that 655 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: the alligator grabbed. Now was not a big, super large alligator, 656 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: but he wrestled the puppy back, kept his cigar in 657 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: his mouth, and walked him back up. Welcome to Florida, Buck. 658 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that was my favorite thing. When I was 659 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: a kid. We would drive down to Florida for vacation 660 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: and I was obsessed with exactly how far south did 661 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 2: we have to get where alligators could exist, because I'm 662 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: sure there are tons of kids like me when I 663 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: was a kid that are super fascinated still by the alligator. 664 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny too when you're in a different part 665 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: of the country. This is true. Like when I was 666 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: growing up in New York City, tourists would sometimes from 667 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: certain parts of the world. They would take photos of 668 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: squirrels in Central Park. It was fascinating to them, right yeah. 669 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: And I was always and I was like, why are 670 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: they taking photos of squirrels. I come down to South 671 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: Florida and I'm like, you guys have manit an alligators 672 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: just place is amazing, you know. I'm sure it's like 673 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: in parts of Montana they see buffalo or something like, yeah, 674 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: it's a buffalo. It's like a big cow with horns 675 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: who cares no. 676 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: Your wife, when when I visited your place, she was like, 677 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 2: buck just runs outside all the time. If he can 678 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 2: see Amanity, he loses his mind because you can see 679 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: him from where you live in Miami. 680 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: I can see them in the water. I think it's 681 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: super cool. I hope to. 682 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 2: See a bunch of you at bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey, tonight. 683 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: First book signing American Playbook. Go buy it. I want 684 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 2: to drive this up. Make the New York Times put 685 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: it on the list. My thanks to you guys. You 686 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 2: can find it anywhere. No update yet on Amazon. Put 687 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: me in the top thousand for print tomorrow, Buck, I 688 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: look forward to meeting a bunch of you in New Jersey. 689 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: We will be back same time tomorrow. Thanks for hanging 690 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: with us.