1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded prior to the saga after Strike. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: partnership with iHeartRadio. 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Scandalshas and Katie. 5 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: I'm doing a play reading at my theater company. I 6 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 4: am a which Geirmo has worked with before, and I 7 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: I can't tell you how much scandal is just like 8 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 4: in my I don't know what happens when you do 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: one hundred twenty. 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Why, Like it's in your head, like you're thinking about 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: it all and take a beat like fucking You're like, 12 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: maybe they're the ones that are bad at not speeding 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: it up. Maybe it's no. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: I just feel like my internal clock is fast anyway, 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: and so it is. I just fit with scandal better 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: than things that are slower. 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, wait did you just come from there now? 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? Fuck, I've been acting all day. Can't you tell? 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: My voice is so warmed up? 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: Project to the back. We should also say to our 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: listeners that today happens to be for twenty. It's April twentieth, 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: So if y'all want to smoke it up, put that 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: smoke in the air while you're listening to this podcast. 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I am definitely getting fucked up tonight. 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: When this episode airs. Obviously it won't be for twenty, 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: but right now, just know that it's for twenty. When 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: we're recording it, I almost went and hit my bond, 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: but I was like, no, let me not do that, 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: because then I'm just gonna want to talk about food 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: and eat the whole time. Wait a minute, that anyway. 31 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: I want to ask, is this your first four to 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: twenty in the history of four twenties where you have 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: been stoned all day and you've been holding off? Or 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 4: do you shoot sometimes on four. 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Twenty so you don't Sometimes it happens all the time. 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: You are one of the great kings of cannabis in 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: pop cannabis. See between the Chappelle Show, Half Baked and Weeds. 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: Let it be known also listeners, I don't know I've 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: ever told this story on this podcast, but one time 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: I go over to Germo's. Did I tell you this? 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: I don't think we did on the on the podcast. 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: Now I go over to Scandals over We're all having 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 4: withdrawals from our friends and not seeing them every day, 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm gonna go over GE's house. I'm 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: gonna hang out, like on a Friday and I have 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: childcare till four o'clock, so like we're all good, and 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: I go into your house and I go into your 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: scary cave dwelling thing, yes, the secret room, and you're like, well, 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: let's smoke. And his secret room is fucking amazing, right. 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: It has a dope TV. It has a fridge in 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: there that has like kombucha that are all different flavors, 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: and like amazing posters and scary stuff all around, all 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: the different collector's items he has from horror movies. 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: And it's rest the case with the secret door. 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 4: Yes, it's amazing. And you're like, do you want to smoke? 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, of course, and you take 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: out a huge bong and thank you for being such 58 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: a gentleman because you offered me like a little baby bowl, 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: like one hitter. Thank you. I so appreciate it. Would 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: have I got so fucked up from just your weed 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 4: in the. 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: Pole, faced planted for sure. 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: Oh no, call an ambulance, brain broken, We don't come 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: back back from this. 65 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: You would have gone home and just like eaten everything 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: all those. 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm really fucked up. We're having a day. Gus smoked 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: me up. I cannot drive like this. 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you just gotta let loose, man, right, Sometimes 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: you just gotta like sometimes loose. 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 4: I have not been high in a good long time. 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: I don't know why. I don't know what you're saying 73 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: about my current state of affairs. My anxiety has been 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: off the chart. 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: Katie, me too. I think everyone's you know how many 76 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: friends of mine are like, oh my god, I'm really 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: going through it. 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: I does feel like overwhelmed right now. I have some 79 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: existential moments where I'm like, what is life? Everyone's going 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 4: to die. We're all going to die for any of this. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: Listen, And the world is in flux right now. It's 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: in chaos. It's literally in chaos politically and everything. Of course, 83 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: we're all feeling anxious. 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: I feel so anxious, and when I do, I get 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 4: scared about smoking weed. 86 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: It could go one of two ways, right Like. It 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: could either make it so much better and I have 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: fun and I feel a release and I feel like 90 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: a perspective shift, which is so helpful, or it goes 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: down a dark, terrible turn where everything becomes even worse, 92 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: where it's like, holy fuck, we're gonna die. I'm gonna 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: die I'm not going to see my children, my parents 94 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: are gonna die. Everyone's sick, the whole world is sick. 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: And then you're high, you say you're like, oh god. 96 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: Why is the point of any of this? Like why 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: are we even here? And then I start just being like. 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, you spiral, spiral. I'm the same. I'm not that 99 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: guy that could be anxious or feel down or whatever 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: and be like, yo, I want to get high. I 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: can't do that because for me, it accentuates the negative. 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: I only like to smoke if I'm feeling really good, 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: if I'm in a positive headspace, if I'm feeling you know, 104 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: up and happy. Like if I'm not, I can't smoke, 105 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: like I could drink. I could have a drink if 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm feeling down or whatever. And it sort of puts 107 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: me into a little zen, you know, chill place. But 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: weed is different. 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: Have you ever done ayahuasca? 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: No? 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: I haven't. I'm intrigued by it, but I'm also like, 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm also a little bit scared because it's a long trip, right, 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: isn't it like a seven to eight hour trip or yeah. 114 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: And there's throw up in duty and all. For some people, 115 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: you have that angel and you like drink a tea 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 4: and then you puke. But like some people have such 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: out of body like I understand the meaning of life 118 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: and see like yeah, really what this is all about? 119 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: And they like go to a different plane. And some 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 4: people there's like some people who have like psychotic breaks 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: and they like never come back. 122 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: I feel like, oh Jesus Christ, see that would be 123 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: I feel like that would be me. That would so 124 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: be me. 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: Have you ever done LSD or No? 126 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: Hell no, same things, same thing. I'd be so scared 127 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: of that shit. 128 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: I'm so fucking old school and cheap. I'm like, give 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: me my fucking wine, beer, vodka, whiskey. 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm straight. 131 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm getting give me my one hit on a joint, 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: like two hits on a really nice joint. 133 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 4: We good. Like I've been doing the same shit since 135 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: I was fourteen. 136 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to experiment with some new high caliber 137 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: like twenty twenty three stuff. 138 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: No, no way, it's too scary. 139 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Remember when we were emailing back and forth, I was like, 140 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: oh shit, at four twenty I would have already been smoking. 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: But the first email of like, we have a very 142 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: special guest today, let it be known and we got 143 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: hit today, and Gama quickly wrote back like, oh my god, 144 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: it's looking for twenty Like, if it's not the national 145 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: holiday in your household, we shouldn't be working. 146 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: Oh man, But the guest is so worth it. The 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: guest m not so worthy. 148 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: The guest can go down in history. Is one of 149 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: the all time, all favorite characters on Scandal. 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: I did a deep dive researching our dude that's going 151 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: to be on and Homeboy has done one hundred and 152 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: eighty films and television projects and still counting. 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: I have so many questions to ask him because I want't 154 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: know how we got the part, how he created the part. Yeah, 155 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: here's the most fucked up thing about his part is 156 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: that he was mimicking in a lot of ways someone 157 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: that would go from the host of The Apprentice to 158 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: the President of the fucking United States. 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 160 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm just like, how does he feel playing this character 161 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: that was poking fun, making games, all of this stuff 162 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: at this fucking joke of a man who ended up 163 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: that the joke was on us people. 164 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sure was. Joke was on an egg, on 165 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: all our faces. 166 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: And on all our faces. 167 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: And interestingly enough, he also played Julius Caesar at the 168 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: public Theater, and the the theme or the. 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: The parallel that they were making was that Julius Caesar was. 170 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, and people who lost their minds. 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, lost their mind. So Greg Henry, God, 172 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: damn it, we can't keep his name out of our mouths. 173 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: We can't the one and only, most spectacular Greg Henleary, 174 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: who created the one and only Greg We're stone right now, right, 175 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: We're not even created the one and only Hollis Doyle. 176 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: And let it be known that Hollis Doyle was created 177 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: or was on the televisions of America before he who 178 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: shall remain nameless became president? 179 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: Can you believe that before he even put his name 180 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: in the bid? 181 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: Years before? 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Hollis Doyle was a character from season one. 183 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: And that's what shit started to get really weird, and 184 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: people started to be like, does Shonda know more than 185 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: what like the public knows, Like forget ripping things out 186 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: of the headlines, She's. 187 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: Ripping shift from from back from the future, She's ripping 188 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: shift into the present from the future, Like what the fuck? 189 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: The fuck? 190 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so wild? Did he know he was Trumpian? 191 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: Did he just do that? On his own. Was he 192 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: just like a Republican oil douchebag? 193 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: Like Greg Henry is in the house. 194 00:09:49,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Queen, you have not aged a day. I have 195 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: just watched an episode of you from twenty thirteen, literally 196 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: ten years ago. 197 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that I was listening to you. 198 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 5: I was listening to you guys with Shanda on the 199 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: first one, which was great. 200 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: The show was great. I learned a lot. So that's 201 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: where I first heard ten years. 202 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: I was like, right, like, where does the time go? 203 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Man? 204 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know, COVID really fucked it up in that, 205 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: like multiple years were eaten that were like what happened? 206 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: We don't know and we still don't know what's going on. 207 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: But Greg Henry, thank you for doing this. A b listeners, 208 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: who's wearing the coolest hat? 209 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: It's like a Cabby hat? 210 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I like you a Cabby hats. 211 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: That's my side hustle now yeah, yeah. 212 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: Tell us we need to know the origin story of 213 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: Hollis Doyle, Like, did you audition? How did you build 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: this character? Had you ever been on Shondaland shows before? 215 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: Tell us the Hollis Oil creation story. 216 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm kind of in the dark about 217 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: it in a way. I mean, the part of Hollis 218 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: was just offered to me. 219 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: You know, I had done one lowly episode of Grey's 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 5: Anatomy a few years before. 221 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: I played a doctor who was. 222 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: The mentor to Meredith Gray's mother, which, of course that 223 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: would have been Kate Burton eventually. Yes, but this was 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: way back in time this episode. 225 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: Shanda knew who I was there, but I think. 226 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: Linda Lowe, the casting director, just loved you. 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know she did at that point in time. 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: You know, she offered it to me. I think I 229 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,119 Speaker 1: remember her talking about. 230 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: A show I did a few years before called The 231 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 5: Riches on Fax, and I played this drug addicted, rich, 232 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: good old boy. 233 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: So maybe that's what put it together for her in 234 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: her mind. 235 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say earlier, Greg, you have done quite 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: a bit of work. I mean I did a little 237 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: bit of research and you've done over one hundred and 238 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: eighty did you know this about yourself? One hundred and 239 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: eighty films and television projects. Yeah, so listen, the scandal 240 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: folks knew who you were obviously, And also let me 241 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: just say really quickly, you've worked on six Brian de 242 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: Palmer films. You have been in Scarface, Body Double, Raising Kine, 243 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: fem Fatale, The Black Dolly, The Casualties of War. You 244 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: are my fucking hero. 245 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we look into Germa Diez is a horror movie 246 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: obsessor Giermo of one hundred and eighty credits that the 247 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 4: incredible Greg Henry has done. How many horror films? 248 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: Can we just talk about the one horror film that's 249 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: one of my favorite films. It's called Slither. It has 250 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: the best special effects that I have ever seen in 251 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: a fucking movie. 252 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: Wait, what are they? Tell me what they are because 253 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: I hate horror movies and I've never seen it. 254 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: It's a small town that's taken over by an alien plague. 255 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: It's sort of a cross between Job of the Hut 256 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: and then the creature from a film called basket Case. 257 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have ever seen basket Case? 258 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: Nope. 259 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: And who's the lead actress that's in the film. She's 260 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Elizabeth Banks, Yes, yes, yes, it's Elizabeth Banks. 261 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: My god, Greg Henry, you worked with everyone like so 262 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: when you get the part of Hollis Doyle did the 263 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: first time you try him on? Was it at a 264 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: table read or was it when you showed up on 265 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: set and you weren't invited to the table, Like, what 266 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: do you remember it? 267 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: No, it was it was the table roof and that's 268 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 5: where I met everybody, everybody all at once. As you know, 269 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: those table reads are epic. I mean, so it was 270 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 5: quite the beat and greed. 271 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: Did you know he was going to have like a 272 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: southern accent? Did you know you were going to make 273 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: the Hollis Doyle we all know and love today? Or 274 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: was it? I can't remember. 275 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: I can't remember the exact discript that was in the script, 276 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 5: but it was described that he was you. 277 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: Know that he was an oil billionaire from Texas. Yes, 278 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: So I had a couple of. 279 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: Good old boys in mind that I have known over 280 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: the years. So I kind of stitched them together a 281 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 5: little bit and went in there and read the lines. 282 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: You're all over season one and you are all over 283 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: season two. I mean you are. You are at the 284 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: table with the goonies, You're you're at the table of Nosporot. 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: It's like you Olivia Verna, Verna, me Lily, yes, Cyrus, 286 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: and you're rigging the elections. 287 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: The illuminati, right, Yeah, the illuminati, that's what they were 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: called in the scripts now talk to us. 289 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: The Trump of it all? Was that like something that 290 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: came later or like, oh yeah, yeah, was it just 291 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: the coincidence? 292 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 293 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: I mean, I remember you were asking Shanda about the 294 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 5: way things were sort of predicted within the show of 295 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: things coming true from you know, AI to it's like 296 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: she's writing the news. Yeah it was, but that came 297 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: way later, and that was like season five that that 298 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: stuff began, and I was gone for a whole couple 299 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 5: of seasons in. 300 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: There and. 301 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 5: Came back for that, and I didn't know when I 302 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: was coming back whether it was going to be just 303 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: that or not, although there was an election coming up, 304 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: but I didn't know how it was going to fit in. 305 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: And then then you saw him sort of slide into 306 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: into Trumpianism, you know, which was cool because you know, 307 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 5: let's face it, Hollis, it's pretty big asshle. 308 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: Asshole. But my god, I literally googled Hollis Doyle's five 309 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: craziest most trump Like quotes from Scandal No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 310 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: I mean there are so many sites. I mean, look 311 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: about divorced in to Melly. Here's one divorce suits a woman. Well, 312 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: I can see it in your hips. There you're leaner 313 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: and meaner. You slap that figure onto match dot com, 314 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: the men will come running. I promise you that. 315 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 316 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: And this one about being rich. I got money, Republican money, 317 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: the kind of money that wins elections, And just like 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: it is with dating, I want to spend it on 319 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: a gal who I think is gonna put out for me. 320 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: You're gonna put out for me? Emili Grant? Or are 321 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: we just going to rub jeans together and leave here frustrated? 322 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh fuck? Yeah, that same scene. 323 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: Lines are from that same scene. 324 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god, like, oh my god. Then also 325 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: so many racist like amazing, like so many things about 326 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: anti immigration, anti you know, calling now let's dig into 327 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: the issue of them free loading illegals, like I'm just 328 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: reading these whether it's fun. You do such a great 329 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: job of not judging him, honestly, And what I love 330 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: so much, especially in the episode We're going to talk 331 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: to today, is this is really Hollisdoyle episode where we 332 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: see him being vulnerable and like he's a person yes. 333 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: For the first time. 334 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you did such a beautiful job of not poking 335 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 4: fun or judging And I feel the same way honestly 336 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: with Sally Langston, like your two characters. God, the joke 337 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 4: lines they would give you. 338 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, I felt so lucky. I was so lucky. 339 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 5: You know. 340 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 6: It's like you were talking about the first episode and 341 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 6: I sort of start with Jeff in the White House 342 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 6: or we're talking about something and you know, what's going 343 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: on in Iran and things like that, and then Nelly 344 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 6: comes up pregnant and walks up into the scene and he's. 345 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Look at you. It was pleased and plump as a 346 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: deer tick on a prize. 347 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: Bool know which writer in the writer's room really took Hollis, 348 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: because I mean I couldn't. I'm sure there's not every 349 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: writer could really nail that. 350 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, me too, But man, they just wrote me 351 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 5: such a great part, so so funny and so smart, 352 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 5: and it was able to change in this way that 353 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 5: was like because he pretty clear about how he plays 354 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 5: the game early on, you know, yeah. 355 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, sure, dirty, real dirty. 356 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Dirty, yeah, real dirty. But but they always had this 357 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: sort of gloss. 358 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 7: That they put on it with the humor that he had, 359 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 7: you know, even the racist stuff was a little lighter, 360 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 7: you know, But then then it got into finding out 361 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 7: what was wrong with him as a candidate, and they 362 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 7: found out that he was like, you know, really horrible. 363 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: What did they find out? I don't remember what did 364 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 4: they find out? 365 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 5: He was hanging out with a bunch of you know, 366 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: former sort of KKK ers, racists, and I went. 367 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: On hunting parties with him, And. 368 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: You know, all right, that's not great. That's not great. 369 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: We'll be right back, guys. 370 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: Wait another question for you really quick, and then we 371 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 4: want to dive into the episode. Do you have top 372 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: few memories of the show for when you were off 373 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: set or any like of your favorite memories when you 374 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: were on set? 375 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't. 376 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 5: I just have always such a general sense that I 377 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 5: was always welcomed there and so appreciated and loved by 378 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: kind of everybody. 379 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, it was just a warm place 380 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: to be. 381 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 5: And when you come in as a you know, as 382 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: a guest star, even one that is supposed to recur, 383 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: that's not always the case, you know, and so you 384 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: really appreciate it when it does happen. 385 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: I have a favorite memory of you, Greg, of you 386 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: being on Scandal, and it's you eating one thousand hush 387 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: puppies in this episode and eat you eat with such relish, 388 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: such enthusiasm. You're a good eater. We talk about, you know, 389 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: actors that eat really well on camera, and you're one 390 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: of those. But I remember me and Katie have talked 391 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: about this before, how in one of these scenes in 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: this episode, you had to keep eating these fried hush puppies, Right. 393 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I get to feel in that Ron. It 394 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: was Ron Underwood Dragon. I think he was kind of 395 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: just messing with me after a. 396 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: While, you know what I mean, He's gotta like it 397 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 5: covered from like, well, let's get it from here, Let's 398 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 5: get it from down here, Let's get it, let's be 399 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 5: going in. 400 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: You know it was, it just never stopped. 401 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 4: Like Garmo said, I think it's such a testament to 402 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: a good actor when they're just like really fucking eating 403 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: and not just like pushing some salad around on a place. 404 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: Don't you hate that a scene and somebody's like moving 405 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: it over here and over there. This scene has been 406 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 5: like fifteen minutes long and not a bite has been taking. 407 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Oh I hate it. 408 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 4: It's ridic is okay? Today on Unpacking the Toolbox, we 409 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: are talking about episode two seventeen, titled Snake in the Garden, 410 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: which aired on March twenty eight and twenty thirteen. It 411 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: was written by rom La Mohamets directed by Ron Underwood. 412 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: It was guest starring Greg Henry as Hollis Doyle, Scott 413 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: Folly as Jake Ballard, George Newburn as Charlie, Joe Morton 414 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: is Mysterious Man, Kurt Fuller is great In Osbourne. 415 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: Sharp, Mila Diavar's Lauren Wellman Sonya Rockwell's Trixie, Melinda McGraw 416 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: as Deborah Clarkson, and Andrea Bowen as may Bell Doyle. 417 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: And a little bit of the synopsis. Starting off, Let's 418 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: see how Greg Henry does. 419 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 5: Hollis Doyle, a most unlikely person to ask for Olivia's help, 420 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 5: becomes top priority for the OPA team when his daughter 421 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 5: gets held for ransom. David Rosen might be in the 422 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: middle of some trouble, and Olivia gets threatened by Graydon 423 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: Osborne as she continues to point fingers at him for 424 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 5: being the mole. 425 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Huck continues to train Quinn on how to be 426 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: a superspy, and the mystery of Jake Ballard thickens as 427 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: he plays fast and loose with the truth in his 428 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: relationships with both Fits and Olivia. 429 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: After Osborne's dismissal in Sudden Suicide, we learned that Jake 430 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: and and a mystery man staged the whole thing. Damn, 431 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: I think Greg, Greg shout us out of the he 432 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: he did it, man did it? 433 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 4: Henry? You got that with your eyes closed. 434 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: You know. 435 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 5: You just remember that Hollis had to speak quickly and 436 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: most people with this accent don't, so it's kind. 437 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 4: Of a real juxtaposition. So this episode, I freaking love it. 438 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: And the winning scenes of this episode are all They're 439 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: so much Greg Henry genius. To remind you, guys, like 440 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: we already said, you show up at OPA. David is 441 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 4: at OPA. He's sleeping in the office because he's scared 442 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: for his life. Somebody broke into his apartment and we've 443 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 4: got a new client. It's Hollis Doyle and his ex 444 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: wife who she was. 445 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Great, she was wonderful. 446 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they come in hysterical while Hollis 447 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 4: really isn't. But their daughter has been kidnapped for ransom, 448 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: and Hollis thinks is a stunt that his daughter's trying 449 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: to pull for money because she's a drug addict and 450 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: a karthief and a total piece of shit. 451 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: But. 452 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: Hollis says, I want her back, but I will not 453 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 4: pay a cent. Do you remember shooting any of these scenes? 454 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: Do I remember? Yeah? No, I I kind of remember them. 455 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: The food was one thing, you know, I had to 456 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: do all that eating. 457 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: But it was also sort of the first time for 458 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 5: Hollis to be playing at OPA. Yeah, So so that 459 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 5: was fun to see how you guys worked on the 460 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 5: inside there. 461 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: And it was always fun when when characters like your 462 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: character interacted with myself, with Huck and with Quinn and 463 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: with like Harrison, because we didn't usually bump into each 464 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: other on the show, so it was always so much 465 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: fun when one of those characters would come to Opia. 466 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: And this whole this episode, most of your scenes were 467 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: in Opa. I think pretty much all of them, right, Yeah. 468 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: Except for the the hospital. 469 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 5: I think I was there was like, yeah, ye scenes 470 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: in the hospital. 471 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: She was great too. She sends this ransom video where 472 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: she's like, this is the bank rounding. Yeah, you wire 473 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: the money, daddy, Yeah, like perfectly legible. 474 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want. 475 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: What excites me so much Also about this episode is 476 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 4: we finally see Quinn like getting good, you know, she's 477 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 4: like under hawk and he's like, let's look at the 478 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 4: ransom video. What do you hear? Close your eyes like 479 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: it's not just about the lighting of the video. And 480 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: I'm like getting all super spy like and Quinn's getting 481 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 4: really really good at it. 482 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's fun to watch, you guys. 483 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: Relationship was wonderful. 484 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: It was really building a lot in this episode. Oh 485 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: and Quinn gets to drive. I wrote, I was like, 486 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 4: that's right me fake driving. 487 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: Right, which is never really driving right on your camera. 488 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: There there's like a truck pulling the car and you 489 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: just have to act like you're driving. 490 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 5: No. 491 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: Scenes always so much fun because then you just get 492 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: to chill in the car, right. 493 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love you just sit the whole time. You 494 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 4: just do little acting because you can't really do like big, 495 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: big acting in the car because you're sort of stuck 496 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 4: in a little window. But then, what was so crazy 497 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 4: about this storyline is that it's completely ripped from a 498 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: real scandal. Jean Paul Getty do. 499 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: You know this watch I know that JP. 500 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: Geeddy, who was the son of the Italian oil family 501 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: worth billions of dollars, was kidnapped when he was like 502 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 4: sixteen or something and kidnapped and held in a basement 503 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: for ransom for his family. And his family wouldn't give 504 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 4: any money, I think because they had other children and grandchildren, 505 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: and they were like, if I give one dollar, it's 506 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 4: just going to send the message that they can kidnap 507 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: any of our kids and will always pay. 508 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: Right. 509 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: What they did was told him to drink a bunch 510 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: of wine or something and like, get fucked up, because 511 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: we're about to cut off your fucking ear and we're 512 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 4: gonna mail it to your family. What yep? 513 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: And they did it. Did they do it? 514 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yep, Yeah, Yeah, he's only got one air. 515 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's only got one ear. They got his ear 516 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: and they sent it, and his family sent the money 517 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: after the ear was sent. But the guy, I'm pretty 518 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: sure had a pretty after they got the money. I think. 519 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: I think as the story goes, they just threw him 520 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: on the side of the street and someone found this 521 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: sixteen year old kid like walking down the side of 522 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: the street with like a bleeding ear, having no idea 523 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: where he was, and he was so messed up and 524 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: traumatized and correct me if I'm wrong any of the 525 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: producers listening. But in my mind. I think he actually 526 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: did deal and struggle his whole life with like major 527 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: drug addiction and things like that. At the end of time. 528 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Wow, I would have too, I mean, come on, yeah. 529 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Right as you would. 530 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: So like, this whole episode is completely I mean other 531 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: than she to blow the low, you know. 532 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: To blow the blow it, blow it. 533 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: She faked the ear cutting. 534 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I love that scene too, where you're like the thing, 535 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: everything is like done, and no, Huck's back there with 536 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: the ear. Yes, wait a minute, wait a minute, and 537 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 5: he's sold it up and figuring out how it. 538 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Was cut and he's holding it up to Quinn's ear. 539 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. He figures out that the cut 540 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: of the ear is sort of serrated. He realizes that, 541 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: you know, if another person and was doing it, they 542 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: would have had good leverage and cut the ear cleanly off. 543 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: I love that scene too because it's like, oh, Quinn's 544 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: a freak. Quinn's a freak. Like the other people in 545 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: the scene are like, ew, that's where we be doing 546 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: and like gross, you can't have a fucking ear here, 547 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh no, put it next to my head. 548 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: I want to see what he's onto. But I love Hollis. 549 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 4: They gave Hollis Doyle. Like there's the scene between Hollis 550 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: and Quinn. Obviously Quinn hey Talis Doyle because of Cytron 551 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: blow up and he ruined her entire life and killed 552 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: Jesse Tyler. Yeah, but there's a beautiful scene where you're 553 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: standing in Quinn's office and you're like, I just want 554 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: my baby back. 555 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, like I fucked up, Like I really 556 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: messed up. 557 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, crying of conscience and guilt, you know, blaming himself. 558 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 5: You know, he said he doesn't know what happened, but 559 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: he but he does says say that he let her down. 560 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, he had a real moment of conscious 561 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 5: There was so. 562 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: And my god, Greg Henry, I'm pretty sure you turned 563 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: straight to camera and got like one tier kind of 564 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: rolling down your face like a real pro who has 565 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty credits on their IMDb can do well. 566 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: Like I was like, holy can act. 567 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: But it was. 568 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 7: It was so cool though too story wise that then 569 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 7: you know, hawk over hears Quinn leaving a message for 570 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 7: her father kind of ties everything together. 571 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: It really does, It really does. And then the other 572 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 4: huge emotional scene for Hollis where we see Hollis being 573 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 4: so different is towards more the end of the episode, 574 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: when after Hollis's I mean g takes the ear and 575 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: sort of measures it up, and Hollis like runs into 576 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: the hospital and is like, my baby, we got the 577 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: wired runners. She's back, We're good and comes in with flowers. 578 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: And she's gone. Maybell is gone. 579 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: And then she's calling a cab because she thinks she 580 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: has the money. We learned that she can up to herself, 581 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: and it's all tied up with a bow and then 582 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: we realize, I. 583 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: Guess who the cab driver is. 584 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the theme of today's episode is cabbyes, y'allab that's it. 585 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: Hawk picks her up, takes her back to Olivia's office, 586 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: and my god, that scene kills me. It's awful. Oh 587 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: my god. Hollis is sitting across from her and is like, 588 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: you have to choose, like right here, right now, family 589 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 4: or money? 590 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so heartbreaking it is. 591 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: Do you remember shooting that or not? Really? 592 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do remember that scene. It was like kind 593 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: of perfectly sparsely. 594 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 5: Written, you know, and it was maybele was really good too, 595 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: you know, she was she. 596 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Was amazing, she was wonderful. 597 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: But she was amazing. Her name is Andrea Bowen. My god, 598 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: she was perfect. 599 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, but she and Melinda it was like, and then 600 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: Carrie in the scene, it was like, really well set up. 601 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 5: I don't think it took us a long time to 602 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: really do, you know, it was all there on the page. 603 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: I remember being in that scene and you could see it. 604 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's on, it's in the episode, and whenever 605 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: they cut to Huck, I'm like almost welling up, like 606 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: it was to watch you guys work. The woman that 607 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: played your wife. Her work was just so Melinda, so 608 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: emotionally heartbreaking, and I remember just feeling so emotional watching 609 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: you guys. It was just so good. It was those 610 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: moments you guys ever have those moments when you're acting 611 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: and then you're like, oh shit, I'm watching the other actor. 612 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: The work is so good that I'm getting too caught 613 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: up in it instead of being, you know, in the 614 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: skin of the character I'm playing. And that kept happening 615 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: in the scene, you know what I mean. Yeah, I 616 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: was just watching and. 617 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 4: Like god, that used happened to me on Scandal all 618 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: the time, where I'd be like watching Carrie or watching 619 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: Game and be like, oh shit, I'm supposed to talk. 620 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my line. 621 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's my line. Is there any other I'm 622 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 4: trying to think, gee, any other? Are scenes in this 623 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: episode that majorly stuck out? I mean the big eies 624 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: for me, like all the Hollis do oil biggies, it's 625 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 4: the deer, it's you emotional and Quinn's office, it's you 626 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: with your daughter at the end, it's you eating hush 627 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: puppies from now until the end of time. Who But 628 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: then there's also a nice Olivia Jake, makey, makey, makey, audy, auty, sexy, 629 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: sexy time. 630 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: There is that, Yes, And there's also a scene between 631 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: Melly and Fitz where she's trying to convince him that 632 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: the children, you know, probably won't come to visit and 633 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: all of that, and he's hooked on the whiskey too, 634 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: and she's like, you wreak of whiskey every time the 635 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: children are around, and they can smell it on you. 636 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: It's such a powerful scene. She's so wonderful in it, 637 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: and so is Tony. 638 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: I love the direction on the scene where you guys 639 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 5: are like you're doing your spy thing and you find 640 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: the warehouse where Maybell was from you and you actually 641 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 5: find the room and you're looking around the room and 642 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 5: we're all discovering, well, there's the there's the curtains. 643 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but where's Maybell. And we're like, yeah, where's Maybelle? 644 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: And it goes, well, she was here. 645 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: It cuts to the cuts to the Bloody the Bloody cot. 646 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: It was here. 647 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It just made me laugh when 648 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: I saw it. 649 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: It's funny. I do have distinct memories of the scene 650 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: where they've wired half the money and Olivia Pope says, 651 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: we'll wire you the other half with proof of life, 652 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: you know, we'll tell you where, and Maybelle's like, no, no, no, 653 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: I'll give you the address. And she gives us this 654 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 4: address of this abandoned sort of gas station. And I 655 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: remember shooting the scene because it was me, G and 656 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: Carrie and we show up and Hawk is like the 657 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: guard dog and I'm there just because I'm a baby spy, 658 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: and out jumps Maybell as if she did such a 659 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: great job. I remember. 660 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: So she was pushed out. 661 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was pretending like she had been pushed by 662 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: her abductor. 663 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: There probably was a pa back there pushing her and she. 664 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: Jumps out and carries on the phone and she's like 665 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: I see her. I see her. It's confirmed, and Harrison 666 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: is like done and sending the other half of the morning, 667 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: and Olivia is saying to her like it's okay, it's okay, 668 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: it's okay. Come to us, come to us. You're safe. Now, 669 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: you're safe, And Huck has these amazing lines underneath his 670 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 4: let me get him. He's like, let me ge him. 671 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 4: I could still get him. And Carrie's like like no, no, 672 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: stand down, Hawk like no, and he's like, I got it. 673 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: There's still time. I could fucking take him. And then 674 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 4: she runs into her arms. But I remember shooting that 675 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: scene and it's nighttime and we're pulling into this like 676 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: abandoned gas station and this girl is abducted and we 677 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: get her and we throw her into the car and 678 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: we sort of like peel off and it's so high stakes, 679 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: and Olivia's screaming on the phone, and I do remember 680 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: it at that point, being like, WHOA, I'm on a 681 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 4: really fucking cool show, Like like when I auditioned, I 682 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: thought I was on like a really fast talking like 683 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: political women in power and like procedural case of the week, 684 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: Like I had no idea I was going to be 685 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 4: on something that was like dark and edgy. 686 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: And action packed at times shitty. 687 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 4: And like there was gonna be abduct shit, you know, 688 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: like I just didn't know. 689 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: You know what I remember. I remember they had soup 690 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: that day. Do you remember that. 691 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: Katie I loved when they had soup. 692 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: They had made like three different pots of soup. Of course, 693 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: it all goes back to. 694 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 4: The food Garamo. When I talked about food of this podcast, 695 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 4: it I it, are you a snacker on set? Or 696 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: are you and Joe Morton where he doesn't eat, like 697 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: he'd barely eats all day because he doesn't want to 698 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 4: waste energy to digestion, you have. 699 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: To use so much willpower. 700 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, basically like swatting my own hand half the 701 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 5: time and bring in those crispy creams. 702 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, shit, Yeah. 703 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 4: We will be back with more after the break. Some 704 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: fun facts about this episode is that guest star Melinda 705 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: McGraw played the second wife of Leroy Jethro Gibbs on NCIS. 706 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 4: But fun fact is that Darby Stanchfield actually played the 707 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: same character's first wife on NCIS. Wow, So that character 708 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: has a thing for redheads. Oh yeah, I guess right. 709 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: That must be. 710 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: It sounds like it. 711 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 4: And then both Greg Henry and Josh Malina had to 712 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 4: eat a ton of food during the filming of this episode. 713 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: Greg ate over fifty hamburgers and Josh ate twenty bowls 714 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: of fruit loops, which he then threw out, not. 715 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: The whole hamburger. You'd take a few bites and then 716 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: we'd cut and then they'd bring you another burger. 717 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and no, wait, question, Greg, are you on Twitter? 718 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: And I think you are? 719 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: I am, Yeah, I'm on Twitter. 720 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: Did you join Twitter during this time of the show 721 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 4: when we were all on it? 722 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 5: You know, the thing that was so great, one of 723 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 5: the many things so great about the Scandal family and 724 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 5: everything was because you would have these parties, you know, 725 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: at Jeff and Linda's most often, and yeah, you'd watch 726 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 5: the show so that you could then tweet while you 727 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 5: watched the show when it was actually being aired. And 728 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 5: I just took part of the great food and camaraderie 729 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 5: of those parties and I was like, nah, Twitter, what 730 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: I wouldn't know? 731 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Nahs, not for me. 732 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 5: And and truthfully, no one ever said you got to 733 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 5: do this. It wasn't until the final episode of season 734 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 5: two that we did the live reading of. 735 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes yeah when. 736 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: She says dad and the place goes nuts. It was crazy. 737 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 5: It wasn't until that episode that I got I got 738 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 5: somebody to assist me to become a part of Twitter, 739 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 5: and that was the first time that I ever sort 740 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 5: of tweeted, and I did a couple of things that 741 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 5: I thought were sort of holisy and never very comfortable 742 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 5: with it. 743 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: But I but I've tried. 744 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: You know, same same. They just took our blue checks away. 745 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: Did it actually happen, Yeah. 746 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: It happened today. They all just disappeared. I was like, well. 747 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 4: I haven't heard this yet. 748 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they just took everyone's blue checks away, 749 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: and you have to pay for it if you want it, 750 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: if you want it back. 751 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what they were threatening to do. And 752 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 5: I looked earlier this morning. They haven't done it yet. 753 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 5: But the whole reason that's there is because and Adam 754 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 5: helped me a lot with this. Actually, I went on 755 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 5: the Twitter and all of a sudden there was somebody claiming. 756 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: To be me. 757 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh no, all of a sudden, there reies 758 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 5: another one. They just kept happening, and so we got ABC. 759 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 5: Adam sort of called up. I think it was Christina 760 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 5: Fleischer or something. 761 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 4: Like that, Adam Shapiro, Yeah, Chrisina, to get it, get 762 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: it all rectified, to get. 763 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 7: It all rectified, and to have me verified as as 764 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 7: a person, as an actor and as a Twitter being. 765 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, now we're common folk again. 766 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: Well that brings us to. 767 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: The time tweet at the time you're ready to listen? 768 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that song keeps you boving. 769 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 4: And Greg Henry, you're a big singer, songwriter, musician, huge. 770 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: I do that. 771 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 4: We need a little tweets of the time jingle, that's 772 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: what we need. 773 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't know you seem to have that covering. 774 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 4: But we read some because Twitter was such a huge 775 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: part of our world that Greg Henry joined Twitter himself. 776 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: That's right. 777 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: So we're going to read a few of these in 778 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 4: our closing. 779 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: DC Cowgirl Forever tweeted, how stupid am I not to 780 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: see the ending coming. Jake was not upset when the 781 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: CIA director was harassing Olivia hashtag scandal. 782 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 4: Oh right, that's part of the episode. We didn't talk 783 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: about that. Yeah, Jake sort of. 784 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: Well, he's watching Olivia. He has a cameras, but. 785 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 4: That doesn't need to pin the mole on Osbourne. 786 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes him and Papa Pope. 787 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 4: And popa pope who comes in at the end, the 788 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 4: mysterious man. He comes in at the end, and Jake 789 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 4: has sort of framed Osborne to be the mole and 790 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 4: Osbourne is going to go down. He gets fired and 791 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 4: all of that and correct Moon to Jake is all 792 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 4: in with fits okay? At j Q abroad, who's the 793 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 4: j American Queen NBA on March twenty ninth, tweeted, how 794 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 4: many of you would lose an ear and your family 795 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 4: for twenty million dollars hashtag scandal? I would use an 796 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 4: ear for twenty million dollars? 797 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if I would. 798 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 4: Would you? 799 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 5: You can get a nice prosthetic device for about two 800 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 5: two million, I think something like that. 801 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 4: You know, and you're a real musician, So for him 802 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: to say it and lose his ear, I feel like 803 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 4: we're good. 804 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: Right, let's see at Renee Rico tweeted, you know there's 805 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: a podcast for scandal, right, very fun. Betsy Beers used 806 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: to do a podcast that we would all come on, 807 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 2: and I was a guest on it. So you were too, Katie. Yeah, 808 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: and she would do it from her office at Santa 809 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: Gower and come on for she'd have different guests. Yeah, 810 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: did you do it? 811 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 5: Greg? I didn't do it. She was talking to me. 812 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 5: They were talking to me about doing it, but then 813 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 5: I was I was gone. I think in Vancouver something 814 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 5: I couldn't and I couldn't do it. 815 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were doing film one hundred and sixty four. 816 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 4: Your agents better be damn grateful for you, gregul. 817 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: Could you put that in a song please. 818 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 4: And whistle real loudly and let them know what an 819 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 4: absolute gem, one of a kind talent and stand up guy. 820 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: Yes they have. 821 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 4: I'm so grateful that Greg Henry was all of our 822 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: Hollis Doyle. 823 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: We are, we are. 824 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: It's been so much fun. It's so much fun to 825 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: see you guys and the talk with see you. 826 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: Where are you? 827 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 4: Where are you? And are you still writing so much music? 828 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 4: Singing performing? 829 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a you know, as a songwriter, you had 830 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 5: my middle name, it's Greg Lee Henry, and so you 831 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 5: can go to any place that sort of streams the 832 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 5: music and find my songs. 833 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 4: All right. We love you Greg Henry much. Also I 834 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 4: just want to tell you, guys how excited we are. 835 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 4: We are getting to the end of season two, what 836 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 4: the hell? And I just want to tell you that 837 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 4: next week, what is our next episode called? Gearmo? 838 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: Do you know? I think it's Oh no, no, it's 839 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: it's Molly You Endanger Girl. Oh my god, that's our 840 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: next So our next episode is called Molly You Endanger Girl. 841 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: So good to us. 842 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 4: The best throwback line for a title from what was 843 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 4: the movie Ghosts? From Ghosts starring Tony Goldwyn, Patrick Swayze, 844 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 4: Demi Moore, and Whoopi Goldberg. You in Danger Danger. 845 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox. 846 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate, 847 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: or leave us a review. 848 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 4: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan, 849 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 4: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is 850 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 4: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher. Unpacking the 851 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 4: Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with iHeartRadio. 852 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 4: For more podcasts from Shondaland Audio, visit the iHeartRadio app 853 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: or anywhere you subscribe to your favorite shows,