1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac podcast, presented 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Look to the folks at 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans when you need someone who understands 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: the exes and oh's of healthcare coverage. They've been protecting 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. I'm Amy Wells. Coach Mac. 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, of course, is also here Mac. How you doing. Oh, 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm so splendid. The Titans are two in one, Like, 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: you can't be bad. No, that's very good. And I 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: mean I couldn't wait till we got back to doing this. 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: This is good. We've got a lot to talk about it, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: so I guess we should just start at the beginning. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: The Titans are two in one. They got the victory 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: over the Indianapolis Colts. Of course, it was a different 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: type of win than in Week two in Seattle, but 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: it was still one that showed off the Titans ability 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: to overcome adversity. Is that fair to say? That is 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: fair to say, Amy? And the thing about the National 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Football League, you know, as our listeners know, I mean 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: it's a seventeen game season now, so there's going to 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: be different types of looks every week, But what you 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: have to be able to do in the final draw 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: of all of it is find a way to win 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: the game and accord. And that is what they did. 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: And you're right in saying it was different because, first 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: of all, it was an AFC South game and especially 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: against Indianapolis, and you know how those games go. I mean, 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: we've both been associated with a lot of them, and 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: they're going to come down to just being very, very 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: physical with one another and it's going to be a 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: back and forth contest. This was a very much back 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: and forth contest, and there were several key things that 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: happened in the ball game that flipped it. But the 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: thing that the Titans had to do was overcome three 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: turnovers without getting any and that's very unusual in the 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: National Football League to be able to steal win a 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: ball game and be minus three at the end of 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the day in the turnover ratio. What was the biggest 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: bright spot for you in this Titans victory? What do 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: you take with you feeling good about this Titans team. 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: They stuck with a run game. They stuck with the 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: run game, and what has to happen if you're going 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: to be a running football team, which the Titans are. 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to have as a staff, 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: as a play caller, and as an offense patience with 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: it because people are going to stack the line to 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: stop our running game. We know that, we've seen it. 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: It's automatic when people come in the Colts. You had 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: everybody up front, they had the two corners pressed outside 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: and had the safety eighteen nineteen yards deep. They're going 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: to stop the run. So we didn't get discouraged early. 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Because if you are a running football team, what you're 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: going to have to be able to do is absorb 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: the body, blows early and then get ready to break it. 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: And I think you feel the same way I do. 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: I know our listeners do too. That every time they 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: turn and hand it to Derrick Henry, regardless of what 57 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: the outcomes before have been, you expect him to break it. 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: You're just waiting for him, and sooner or later, that's 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: what he did this game. So let's flip it around. Now, 60 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that are areas of improvement? 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Will call it we're being nice today, No, well, we're 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: gonna be real today. I mean, first of all, you 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: can't turn the ball over right, and you can't turn 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: the ball over in scoring territory because it's hard enough 65 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to get down there, and you start turning it over 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: in scoring territory and start forfeiting scoring opportunities to your opponent, 67 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: it's going to come back to bite you. Now. We 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: were very, very fortunate that our defense played really good 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: red zone defense, you know, except for one play in 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: this last ball game, but they had it. There was 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a time there where Indy had a chance to take 72 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: a lead, you know, and to me, you cannot turn 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: it over like we did, and especially down there in 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: the low red zone, because that can come back to 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: really really be serious problems. A big storyline throughout this 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: game was injuries. This Titans team is struggling with the 77 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: injury bug right now, but a bright spot, especially on 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball with the ride receivers. 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: We saw some younger guys stepping up to fill those 80 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: areas of need. Guys like Nick Westbrook, Akina, guys like 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Chester Rogers. That's a good sign, right, well, it's a 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: really good It's not a good sign. We've got people hurt, 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: but it's a good sign that, you know, those guys 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: stepped up and again we'll have a little bit of 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: a test here again, what's the probability of getting hurt 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: when you're play in the National Football League Game one? 87 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: And so you have to be ready. I mean you do. 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: And that's that's why. That's why everybody's on the football team. Everybody. 89 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: That's why you're on the active roster. You're you're expected 90 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: to contribute in a major way if you get a 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: chance to step in. And those names that you just mentioned, 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: those guys did that on the offensive side of the ball, 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: and that was critical. All right, Well, if you're injured 94 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: or not, buckle up, Buttercup, because this Titans team is 95 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: heading to New York. We're taking on the Jets this week, 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: and you're taking on a team that is still looking 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: to get its first win. They're owing three right now. 98 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: They've got a rookie quarterback. But this is not a 99 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: team to be underestimated. Coach Mac, tell me why, because 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: they got They play really good defense and they're in 101 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: the top ten right now statistically in the league defensively. 102 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Robert Salo, the head coach, got the job because he's 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: a prime premier defensive coordinate in the this league. They've 104 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: got people up front that can play. You know, they're 105 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: tops of the league in the red zone defense, so 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: they're doing things defensively to give themselves a chance to win. 107 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: You said it very clearly. They've got a rookie quarterback 108 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: with a brand new system that always is going to 109 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: give you a time for pause a little bit early on. 110 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: But you and I we both vetted, you know, the 111 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: quarterback coming out. We vetted him coming out of BYU, 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: and what we both said about him when we did 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: the Titans radio draft show was this guy can play. 114 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: And plus he comes from a university that spins the 115 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: ball and throws it around a lot, So it's not 116 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: like he came into the league unfamiliar with what goes 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: on as far as a quarterback reading. National Football League's 118 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: different windows are tighter, defenses are faster, but you just 119 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: don't want him to get hot when you're playing them. Now, 120 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: the Titans are about to face back to back rookie quarterbacks. 121 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: They have Zach Wilson this week against the Jets and 122 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the next week against Trevor Lawrence and the Jags. So 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: I did a little slew thing, Mac, I did a 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: little research, and I kind of looked at rookie quarterbacks 125 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: around the league and how they're doing so far. So 126 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: I look through the first three weeks. I know Jags 127 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: play on Thursday night. We are recording this Thursday afternoon. 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: I cannot predict the future, so I do not know 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: how he's going to play this evening. So that's not 130 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: part of this equation. This is just the first three weeks. 131 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: But looking at these numbers, it doesn't look great if 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you're a rookie quarterback in the National Football League. Mac 133 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: Jones is the only one who has gotten a win. 134 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: The Patriots are still one in two as it stands 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: right now. Completion percentages are fifty five point two percent 136 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: for Zach Wilson, fifty four point two percent for Trevor Lawrence, 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: sixty seven point five percent for Mac Jones. Justin Fields, 138 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: who's only played in a single game, but he had 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: a thirty percent completion percentage. Lots of sacks, not a 140 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns, a lot of interceptions. Mac. Are these 141 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: numbers surprising or unusual at this point in the season 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: or a rookie quarterback? Absolutely not. Let's go through the reasons. 143 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: First of all, it's the most pivotal position in the league. 144 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Second of all, if you're taking number one, it's because 145 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: your team is what not good? Right? Okay, so you're 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: going to a place that's not good. And the reason 147 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: when we sit there and look at it that mac 148 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Jones is most successful he went to the best organization, 149 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, he went to the Patriots to have a history. 150 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: These other organizations are still trying to get off of 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: their left foot and hopefully that these guys eventually down 152 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: the line are going to be a foundation building block 153 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: for them. And so it doesn't it doesn't surprise me 154 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: at all because that happens to new quarterbacks in this league. 155 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: And what I said earlier is about you don't want 156 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: one to get hot on you, because they've all got 157 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the ability to do that. What you want to be 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: able to do is confuse them enough early on so 159 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: that if they can develop, they develop on somebody else's time. 160 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I know there's a different story to every single one 161 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. Zach Wilson is facing different challenges than 162 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, than Mac Jones and justin fields. However, there 163 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: is one commonality in that they're all rookie quarterbacks. What 164 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: is the biggest obstacle that a rookie has to overcome 165 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: when they are just coming into the NFL, the rookie quarterbacks, 166 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: it's a completely different world. As I said, the speed 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: of the defense, first of all, and the windows are different. 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: First of all, hash marks are different. Everything's in the 169 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: middle of the football field here. It's not like you 170 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: know in college where you can be on one hash 171 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: and you've got a country acre to the other side, 172 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: to the white side of the field. Everything's in the 173 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: middle of field. Your windows close a lot quicker. And 174 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: then plus they have never ever seen in their collegiate 175 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: career the myriad of defenses the defensive coordinators put on them. 176 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: The bogies are the disguises that they get, so they 177 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: really don't know what's coming, and that to me is 178 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And the other thing that they have 179 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: to learn, too is they have to learn when it's 180 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: time to surrender and just go to the next play. 181 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: Because they come in as a number one draft pick. 182 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: I've seen at time and time again they feel like 183 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: everything's on their shoulders. They've got to make every play, 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes that leads to disaster. So I mean to 185 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: become a quarterback in the National Football League and accomplish quarterback. 186 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: You got a soak a while, You got a soak 187 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: a while. I mean, let's look at Mahomes. You know 188 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: every Mahomes is on everybody's list as a as a 189 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: young phenomen Well, he soaked the whole year. You know, 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: he didn't even touch the field, you know, his whole 191 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: first year. So that's the issue, especially when you when 192 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you have to start a rookie quarterback because he's a 193 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: number one pick and there's a lot writing on it. 194 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: You haven't been good before. You need to get the 195 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: interest back up in your team, and so you're gonna 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: have to take the pain that hopefully will come with 197 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: a game sooner or later. For Shane Bowen and the 198 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Titans defense, what do they have to do to keep 199 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: these rookies from getting hot when they're facing them? Or 200 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: what I always like to do, always like to give them, 201 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: you know, Bogey's disguise as a myriad of coverages because 202 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you can, you can pressure them, 203 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: but when you're when you're pressuring a quarterback, you know, 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: whether it's a young one or a veteran when you pressure, 205 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: and especially if you're if you're running five or six 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: man pressures, you clean up the reads for him, because 207 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: now you're one on one. If you bogey in disguised 208 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: coverages and play zone play, half man, half zone play, 209 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: quarter quarter halves, do different give them different looks. Then 210 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: you make them indecisive hold the ball. Then you've got 211 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: a chance to get the timing on your side, whether 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: you're rushing for or more so, the indecisiveness is what 213 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: you want to put on them to begin with. I 214 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: mean they can, you know, they can stand back there 215 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: because they've all been accomplished at the collegiate game and 216 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: if everybody's if the back end clears out and it's 217 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: just one on one, then their physical skills can take 218 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: over quicker than their decision making. Taking on the Jets 219 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: at MetLife poses its own set of challenges. How important 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: a special team is going to be in this matchup? Well, 221 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: I think it's big, and I think coach Rabel thinks 222 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: it's big too. We need to get a little more 223 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: out of our return game just for field position and 224 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: plus you would like to get I mean we've got 225 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: we've got, you know, a returner in Rogers that he 226 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: can break these things and so but we need to 227 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: give him better blocking, especially in to and I know 228 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: they've emphasized that just to be able to let him, 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: let him get clear, You've got to clear that first 230 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: wave when you're returning punts, especially, and if you can 231 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: clear that first wave, and that goes with the people 232 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: outside holding up the gunners because they can release before 233 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: the ball's punted. But then it also it takes on 234 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: the people on the inside the cylinder have to be 235 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: able to come to balance and at least shield I'm 236 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: not talking about blow up blocks. I'm just talking about 237 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: shield him so he can get up the field and 238 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: get into that second and third level. We need that 239 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: to happen. The Titans take on the New York Jets 240 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: in New York. Kickoff for that game is at noon 241 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Central time. Titans Radio kicks off at eleven Central time. 242 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: Check us out. Coach Mac is there, I'm there and 243 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: Rehet Brian is also there at eleven o'clock. So those 244 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: are all the things going on for the Tennessee Titans. 245 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: But I also would like to talk about some other 246 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: happenings in the National Football League, Coach Mac, And this 247 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: is an exciting thing sort of it's half exciting. So 248 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: the list of Modern era nominees for the Pro Football 249 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame's Class of twenty twenty two was announced 250 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: not too long ago, and it's comprised of one hundred 251 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: and twenty two players. So that is why I say 252 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: it's moderately exciting because you're basically the top one twenty 253 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: two right now. Yeah, but when you think of at 254 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: the top one twenty two of thousands that have played, 255 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to you've got to be special 256 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: just to be nominated, and the and the way the 257 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame works, I mean, you've got an initial nomination, 258 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: but it pairs down pretty quickly. But just to have 259 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: your name put put on that list means something because 260 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: it's one hundred and twenty two out of one hundred 261 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: and twenty two thousand and so it's a very unique group. 262 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: It does. And so just because you brought it up 263 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: and I have it right in front of me here, 264 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: the list will go from one twenty two to twenty five, 265 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: which is quite the drop off. That happens in November, 266 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: and then from there they named the fifteen finalists in January. 267 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: There you go, and I you know, and I've coached 268 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that have gotten into the Hall 269 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: of Fame. I've coached a lot of guys that have 270 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: been on that list and have yet to get into 271 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame, and some new guys that are 272 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: coming in for the first year. So it's exciting for them, 273 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: it's exciting for their families. Yeah. Well, so because you 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: mentioned it again, Mac, it's like you're reading my notes 275 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: right here. So there are ten first year eligible players 276 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: who are on this list. Some of them are names 277 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: that everybody knows, like wide receiver An kum Bolden, who 278 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: I drafted exactly, nice Pig, Mac, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, 279 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: Steve Smith, offensive lineman Jake Long and Nick Mangold, linebacker 280 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Where defensive lineman Robert mathis Vince Will for defensive 281 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: back Antonio Crimarti. I mean, like, these are name names 282 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: that are on this list. Mac. When you have a 283 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: guy that you have worked with or coached be named 284 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: in this way, be brought up in the Hall of 285 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: Fame conversation, that's gotta make you feel good, right, That's 286 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: really cool, It really is. And as a coach, you know, 287 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: you take great pride in those guys development, you know, 288 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: specially like Kinq. You know when I drafted him and 289 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: then seeing him, you know, get to this point. I'll 290 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: tell you what's really cool, Aimy. And you know, as 291 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: a as a coach in this league, you take you 292 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: really get personally involved with these guys. But if one 293 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: of your guys, and I've had, you know, a few, 294 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: get into the Hall of Fame and then they thank 295 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: you in their Hall of Fame speech, you feel like, WHOA, 296 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. That's really cool. Have you ever been 297 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: to like the Hall of Fame induction? Oh? Yeah, ceremonies 298 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: in the weekend. What is that like? Mac? It looks 299 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: like a ton of fun, big party, big party, and 300 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: everybody's feeling good because guess what, You've just gotten into 301 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and you got all You got 302 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: everybody there that you like in some people that you don't, 303 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: but you like him at that time. It's a huge party. 304 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful, wonderful time. If you've never experienced, everybody 305 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: needs to experience it. If you're an NFL fan, you 306 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: need to experience a Hall of Fame weekend one time 307 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: in your life. It's the only NFL thing I haven't done. 308 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: I just said, you need to experience it one time 309 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: in your life. Well, I've never. I mean, can I 310 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: just go? I mean it, seriously, conf just go, yes, 311 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: if you, if you need it, if you if you 312 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: need an entree into it, just let me know. Oh, 313 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: well you know some guys. Maybe we'll go when an 314 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: Quon Bolden gets in. Oh my, that'd be fun. I 315 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: mean you coached him, I worked with him for a year. Well, 316 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: so we're basically in our tie probably in this we're 317 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: in the front row. Yeah, I don't know why we 318 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be. I think I think this is done. Locked up. 319 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: This ridiculous conversation actually leads us really well into our 320 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: special guests for this episode of the Titans Amien Coach 321 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: Mac podcast, Sharine Williams Coach Mac. I'm so excited we're 322 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: going to be talking to Sharine Williams, and I gotta 323 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about her. She's an award 324 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: winning journalist who has made a career out of covering 325 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: the National Football League. After covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 326 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: as a beat reporter for six seasons, she joined the 327 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Fort Worth Star Telegram and spent seventeen years years covering 328 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. And the whole NFL. In twenty sixteen, 329 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: she joined the crew at Pro Football Talk, and she 330 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: continues to provide insider updates and analysis for them. She's 331 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: also appeared everywhere ESPN, Fox Sports One, NFL Network. She's 332 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: done a whole bunch of stuff. But here's where it 333 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: gets really good, coach mac. Sharine was the twenty fourth 334 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: president of the Pro Football Writers Association and was the 335 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: first female to serve in that role. She was also 336 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: one of the first women to become a member of 337 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee. And speaking 338 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame, She's got a spot in it. 339 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, she was selected as the Dick McCann 340 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Award winner. That award is given to a reporter who 341 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: has made a long and distinguished contribution to pro football 342 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: through her coverage. She was the first woman to receive 343 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: that honor, and her name is hanging in Canton, which 344 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: is so cool. Sharine's cover more than twenty Super Bowls. 345 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: She's been to seven Olympic Games. It's amazing the things 346 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: that she's been able to accomplish. Sharene I am geeking out. 347 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you on the show. Today. Well, 348 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: next time I need an introduction, I'm gonna I'm gonna 349 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: hire you to come back to Hell's quite the introduction. Well, 350 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm so excited, but I've got to start with an 351 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: origin story between you and Coach Mac. I've got to 352 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: know how you guys ended up together, because knowing the 353 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: map of everybody's lives that you guys were in two 354 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: different teams in two different places, the same place we 355 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: were was Texas. And so if anybody knows anything about 356 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: sports writing in Texas and the Fort Words Star Telegram, 357 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: and of course you know the Dallas Cowboys clearly you 358 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: know dominate everything down there. And when Sharene Williams came 359 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: on there, I think Sharene, didn't you start. Didn't you 360 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: start with the Cowboys in like eighty six? Is that 361 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: when you started with the Cowboys? Or the Fort Words 362 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Star Telegram started with the Start Telegram in ninety nine. 363 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: I started with the Buccaneers covering the Buccaneers in ninety four. Okay, Well, 364 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: and so everyone knew who Sharene was. And then Sharene 365 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: and I have a very good friend and a very 366 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: close friend in John McLean. And John McClean is the 367 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: one that introduced me to Sharne and then immediately, h 368 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, I've spent my whole life judge and talent, 369 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I said, this is a 370 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: really talented person. And I was right. And so everything 371 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: that you've read, all of those accolades are true. The 372 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: thing you did leave out, though, is that she is 373 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: a distinguished alumni, which is not easy to be from 374 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: Texas A and M University they brought her into. I mean, 375 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Texas A and M is very proud of their alumni. 376 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: I write, Sharine and you were honored as one of 377 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: her distinguished alumni too. So any accolades that you get 378 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: are very well warranted. But in the National Football League world, 379 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Sharne has always been very well respected and very fortunate 380 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: to be able to call her a friend. When I 381 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: was coaching at the Cardinals, she came up to training 382 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: camp when we were in Flagstaff, and uh, you know, 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: in her in her duties of covering the National Football League, 384 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: spent a couple of days up there, and so you know, 385 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: throughout the years, and especially at the Combine, you know, 386 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: I would always always see Sharne and John McClean at 387 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: the Combine. They always said at the same place, uh, 388 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, at the combine and then and then some 389 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: of the owner's meetings. So Sharine Williams, once you get 390 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: to nowhere and once you can counter as a friend, 391 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: uh if that never ends. But it all goes back 392 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: to we're both Texans that have both been very fortunate 393 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: to have made our living in the National Football League 394 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: for a long time now. Yeah, you know, and I've 395 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: written a lot of stories that have over overlapped with 396 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: with coach Mack's career, with Emmett Smith going to Arizona 397 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: and Phil Bennett's unfortunately his life dying on a lightning 398 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: strike way back when Coach Mack was great on that story, 399 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and unfortunately the Pat Tillman story. Um, he was great 400 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: on that story. So, uh, we've overlapped that way too, 401 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: because he's been such a big part of so many 402 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: big stories that have happened in the National Football League 403 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: in the time. And I do remember you taking a 404 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Coach Mack a few times, John McLean and I to 405 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: to a really good Mexican restaurant in Phoenix that I 406 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: always try to go back. I'm done. Hey, let me 407 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: tell you this is what this podcast is for. The 408 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: first thing, First, thing the food. The first when I 409 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: was at a head coach there at Arizona. They knew 410 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: that I love Mexican food, so I would have it 411 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: just about every day because they've got great Mexican food 412 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: out there and in Phoenix, and plus, you know, there's 413 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: nothing better to wash down a great Mexican food lunch 414 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: than doctor Pepper. So I used to have cases of that, 415 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the in the room. And in fact, 416 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: they just sent another three six packs up here to 417 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: the uh To to Ashley's office. She called me yesterday 418 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: and said, you've got an Amazon package and I said, 419 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: well open it. I said, I don't think it's dangerous. 420 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: And it was doctor Pepper. So anyway, the place, the 421 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: place where we went sharene is is Commodore Guadalajara, which 422 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: is underneath the overpass uh it is. It is the 423 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: place where you eat. It's a neighborhood place. And I said, 424 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: you and John McLean came down and said, Mike, we 425 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: want to go eat some good Mexican food here. And 426 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: you'd have to say anything else. I said, just be 427 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: at the hotel at this time. I'll pick you up 428 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: and if you don't like it, then never talk to 429 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: me again. That's true story. Oh my gosh. Okay, We've 430 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: got to get back on track because otherwise I'm gonna 431 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: get hungry. I want to go all the way back 432 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: to the beginning with you Sharene Why football? What is 433 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: it about this war? I know you always wanted to 434 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: cover the Cowboys. That was kind of the dream, the goal. 435 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: But what is it about this game that appeals to 436 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: you so much? Well, it was my mamma who lived 437 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: in Hillsboro, which is about an hour outside of Dallas 438 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Fort Worth, and she apparently learned the game from my grandfather, 439 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: who in fortune never got to know, and taught it 440 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: to me. And she was a huge Cowboys fan, the 441 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: biggest Cowboys fan of all time. And I tell you what, 442 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: she's looking down its most at some of the things 443 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I've gotten to do and some of the people that 444 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: I've gotten to meet. I just got back to from Canton, 445 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: and I thought of her as I you know, saw 446 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: Clap Harris and Drew Pearson and you know all those 447 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: people that she grew up rooting for. And Roger Staubach 448 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: of course, and so yeah, I wanted to marry Roger 449 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: Staubach like that one. My number one goal, and then 450 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: my second goal was to go cover the Cowboys and 451 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: the loss of the newspaper wrote a story on me 452 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: being Cowboys youngest fan, and I mentioned in there in 453 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: the second grade that I wanted to cover the Cowboys 454 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: and so have been very fortunate. I don't know how 455 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: many second graders give out get to live out their dream, 456 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: but I have been very fortunate to be able to 457 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: do that and now covering the NFL. But it's just 458 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: it's the greatest game on the planet. And I love 459 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: college football. But you know, college football to me has 460 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: too many of those bad matchups. Right you just get 461 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, A and M opens up with Kent State. 462 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, really, who cares? I want to see good games, 463 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: and when the NFL you see that every week. We 464 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: all know that Texans are gonna be terrible this year, 465 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: but I tell you what, you better be ready for 466 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: them or they're gonna beat you. I don't think they're 467 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna go ohen seventeen. They're gonna beat somebody because 468 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: somebody takes them too lightly. And that's what I love 469 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: this game. I think as every week is a great game, 470 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: great performances, and just the top level that we see 471 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: in our sport, and it's just so well, you know, 472 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: when you, as Coachmack knows, when you grow up in Texas, 473 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you grow up loving. You've been 474 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: around the league for long enough now that you've seen 475 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: so many different evolutions of this game, not only on 476 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: the field, but also off the field. And being a 477 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: female who's been in this space for so long, I'm 478 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: sure that the road for you has been very different 479 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: than some of the women who have entered into the 480 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: league in the last five or so years. It really 481 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: looks a lot different now. So going all the way 482 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: back to when you first started to be in those 483 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: spaces around locker rooms on the practice fields, trying to 484 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: do those interviews and do your job to the best 485 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: of your ability, what is that like and how has 486 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: that journey kind of evolved over the last few years. Well, 487 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: it's funny because I did have some flashbacks when John 488 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: Lynch went into the Hall of Fame and I was 489 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to get to present him in the Hall 490 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: of Fame room one time, and you know, great safety, 491 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: glad he's finally going in. But I thought about that, 492 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, I was the only few mine around when 493 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: I started on the NFL, there weren't many. Actually, Sage 494 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: still worked for a TV station, so she came out 495 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: every once in a while on Tampa, came out to 496 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers locker room. But it was way different back then. 497 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I have a ton of stories of 498 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: standing outside of locker rooms, not necessarily in the NFL. 499 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: This was born in college, standing outside of locker rooms, 500 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: and you know, all the men go into the locker 501 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: room and they forget about me and don't bring anybody 502 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: out to me, and I'm left standing there and I'm 503 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: with no interviews. And that happened on multiple occasions early 504 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: in my career. And then I got to the NFL 505 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: and it was a little bit better, but you're STERI 506 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: the only one, and that only one buck place where 507 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: the Bucks used to train too, was teeny tiny and 508 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: on Mondays, the guys would go out and do their 509 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: walk through and come back in and go in a 510 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: locker room. Why I didn't want to go on a 511 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: locker room because it was so tight and so crowded, 512 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: and they didn't want to sit in there anyway. And 513 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Trent Dilford always talked on Mondays, one of the rare 514 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who he'd get upset if you didn't want to 515 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: talk to him on Monday when loss whatever. He wanted 516 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: to talk on Mondays. And because of me, they all 517 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: started coming out of the locker room. It was great. 518 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the players wanted fortunately, the media, Rick Stroud, 519 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: Fred good On, some of those good people in Tampa. 520 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Don Banks was there at that time who did great 521 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: Don Banks, and so we would stand out in the 522 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: hallway and do our interviews and they did that for me, 523 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: and it was fantastic. The players liked it much better, 524 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: the media liked it much better. And so you have 525 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: some of those things too. I mean it's obvious you 526 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: stand out. You stand out way less. Now, as you said, 527 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: we've had many more women come through, and hopefully I've 528 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I've cleared a path. I don't know if I've troll blaze. 529 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: There been a pioneer those things, because there were so 530 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: many women who came before me, to Melissa Ludkeys and 531 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Lisa Olsens and all those women who did great things, 532 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: Christine Brennan. But hopefully I have paved some ways and 533 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: there's some obstacles out of there for women if this 534 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: is what they want to do. The path now is 535 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: set for you to do this, no question about it. Well, 536 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: as someone who has done a lot of work from 537 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: a hallway, I can definitely definitely say that I appreciate 538 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: the people who have come before me and made that 539 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: an acceptable practice, because working outside the locker room, right 540 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: outside those doors, trying to get the same amount of 541 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: stuff accomplished as not an easy feat. And I am 542 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: very appreciative for the people who have had to make 543 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: that a thing and make that something that is a 544 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: recognized practice. And to me, you know, Sharine, when I 545 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: first came here, you know, when I when I left 546 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: La and and and the Titans wanted me to come 547 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: here to do, you know, to broadcast, and I was 548 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: I was put into a three person office with Amy 549 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: and Ashley, you know, and then so they were they 550 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: were scared of me for about the first two weeks. 551 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: And then and then and then you know, they both 552 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: came to me and they said, and they said, this, 553 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: coach Mike, if you would, could you take time just 554 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: to teach us this game from the tape. Teach us 555 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: teach us from the tape. And so I mean, I'm 556 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: sitting here with two women that that absolutely love the game, 557 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: but they wanted to learn it. They wanted to learn 558 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: it so that they could do their job the job 559 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: better and that's that's the way. That's the way that 560 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: you have been talked to us a little bit because 561 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the by the positions that you hold 562 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the voting 563 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: aspect of that. I think that's just absolutely fabulous, and 564 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: they don't just hand those out to anybody. And I 565 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: just had to just talk to me a little bit 566 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: about that process and how that came about shrine. Yeah, 567 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: it's been great. You know, I think you just do 568 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: it long enough. And it was the first woman to 569 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: do that back in Michael Erwin's actually first year of 570 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven was when I went on the committee. 571 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: And it's almost a lifetime appointment. As long as you're 572 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: covering the NFL, you're gonna be a Hall of Fame selector. 573 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: We're now up to forty nine selectors in that room 574 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: and we have four women now. Actually Lisassaults are joined 575 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: last year and Mary Kay was already on there, and 576 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: we've added another. Lindsay Jones is coming on board as 577 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: the PFWA president. Now this year, she's taken that spot, 578 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: so there'll be four of us in there, which which 579 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: has been quite an evolution. But yeah, you know, I'm 580 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: sort of the Dallas Rick Goslin, who I know you 581 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: guys are having on the show soon coming up as 582 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: the Dallas voter. I'm an at large voter, but Goose 583 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: and I sometimes have to split up the cowboys to 584 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: people to present, and so I've gotten to present, you know, 585 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson and Larry Allen in the room and who 586 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: else I dined? Did John Lynch? The one time I 587 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: got to do Jimmy Johnson, which is fantatastic. On the 588 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: centennial class, that one was was really fun and really good, 589 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: and you try to do the best presentation that you can. 590 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: And I had Drew the year he didn't go in 591 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: and he was so upset, and the year he did 592 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: go in, so twenty twenty he didn't go into the 593 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: centennial class, and I was devastated and I felt like 594 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: I could have made a better presentation. And second guess 595 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: myself was at the presentation, and you know, I always 596 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: let them read it. I always talk to whoever it 597 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: is I'm trying to get into the hall of Fame, 598 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: and you just wonder if you let them down. You 599 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: feel like you did certainly, And then he got in 600 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: this year and it was just elation when he when 601 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: he got in finally after thirty three years. So it's 602 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: a big responsibility, especially for those candidates who are kind 603 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: of on the edge, who maybe need that push. They 604 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: need something, you know, they have questions about them and 605 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: they need something to push them over the top. You know, 606 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson, for instance, is the last receiver in NFL 607 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: history to lead the league and receiving yards with less 608 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: than a thousand yards. Think about that, less than a 609 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: thousand yards, let the league and receiving and we haven't 610 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: had that sense, of course because it was less of 611 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: a passing game. But you know, everybody wants to look 612 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: at the numbers. Well, the numbers have changed. You can't 613 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: always look at the numbers, and I think you use 614 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: your eyes. And if you saw a Hall of Famer 615 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: on the field when you watch that player play, that's 616 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: a Hall of famer. For Sometimes you just have to 617 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: forget those numbers. And sometimes, frankly it's some positions in 618 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line and other positions there aren't those numbers. 619 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: There that you can look at and say, well, I 620 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: don't like this player or player X because of these numbers. 621 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: But it is a fascinating process. We actually have the 622 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: contributor already starting to work on Class of twenty twenty two. 623 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: This isn't a thing that happens one day a year 624 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and then we're done. It's a 625 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: year round process. Pull back the curtain on that a 626 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit, if you don't mind, just kind of give 627 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: us a brief rundown. When you're getting ready for that 628 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: twenty two class and figuring out who's going to be involved, 629 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: what does that process really look like? Yeah, you know, 630 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: I think this is about the time you start looking 631 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: at that after you get done with the Hall of 632 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: Fame ceremony, you start thinking about who's going to be 633 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: on the modern ur ballot. Now we don't We don't 634 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: start the voting process for another couple months, and then 635 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: we won't vote on it until the week of the 636 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl or the week before the Super Bowl. I'm 637 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: not sure COVID has changed a lot of things. That's 638 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: one of the things that shanes is the voting process. 639 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Like when we do it, we used to meet in 640 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: person the day before the Super Bowl, and you know, 641 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: last year with COVID we did the zoom call, and 642 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: who knows where we'll be this year, whether we'll be 643 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: doing it over zoom or in person. But you know, 644 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: it's a long day and a long process, and you 645 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: just try to get prepared with that ballot once you 646 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: get the list of candidates on it, which isn't well 647 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: over one hundred, and you know, at this point, I've 648 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: done it so long, you know most of those who 649 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: are going to be on the ballot, So it's really 650 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: the first time ballot guys, first time eligible guys that 651 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at. For instance, de Marcus Ware is one 652 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: of the first ballot guys going that's up for candidacy 653 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: in class of twenty twenty two. So those are the 654 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: types of players who really want to spend the most 655 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: time on and talk to people about their careers. And 656 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: you want to talk to people that not necessarily that 657 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: coach them or played with them or any of that, 658 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: you want to talk to people that played against them. 659 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: Was this a hall of fame or was this a 660 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: player that you really had to prepare to stop or 661 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: was this just you know, another receiver that you face 662 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: that you didn't have the double type thing. So there's 663 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: a lot of that and a lot of those conversations 664 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: terrain this this for our listeners, this is absolutely fabulous 665 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: and for the Titans Amy and Coach Mack podcast. I 666 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: mean we could we could go on with this for hours, 667 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: and you and I have done this before, and the 668 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: next time, the next time that you can find John McLean, 669 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I know he's hard to corral. Let's get let's get 670 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: together and the next Mexican Food dinner is on Coach 671 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: Mac and so we need we need to do that again. 672 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can start, uh, I mean the season. Hopefully 673 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: we can see each other during the season, all of 674 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: us at some venue. But hopefully that we get to 675 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: have at Indy this year the Combine again, because that's 676 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: a that's a that's a great, great place to get together. 677 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: But I can't thank you enough. You know, when we 678 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: were putting a list together and and uh, you know 679 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: Amy and Ashley ask me put a list of people together, 680 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: Coach Mick that youth would love to be able to 681 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: talk to on this initial podcast, and you were right 682 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. And you are the 683 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: absolute best. Serene Well honored and privilege to be on here. 684 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: And I'm so impressed. I like that Coach Mac that 685 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: they've asked you to teach him the game, because I 686 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: don't think there's enough of that, you know, with people 687 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: coming to the game, and you know, people look at 688 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: women and say, well, you didn't play the game. Look 689 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: at most of the mail reporters. They didn't play the 690 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: game either, and sometimes they're scared to ask those questions. 691 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. You know, Jason Garrett and Rob 692 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Bryan when he was here as defensive coordinator, would always 693 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: do an offseason film room session and they'd go break 694 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: it down. They break down the play calls and what 695 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: they meant and what they were trying to do and 696 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: what they were trying to accomplish at this practice. And 697 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: you know, if Jason Garrett said something in a press conference, 698 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: I would pull him aside. He was great at walking 699 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: off and he loved those questions of all right, why 700 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: did you do this, why did you see this, Why 701 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: did you call this time out here? Why did you 702 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: have the safety do this? Whose responsibility was this? And 703 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: that's the only way to learn the game. If you 704 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: didn't play the game, you have to ask those questions, 705 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: and you have to learn it, and I want to 706 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: know what inside out and I don't know everything. Even 707 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: after thirty years of doing this, I don't know everything 708 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: there is about it. And I'm going to keep asking 709 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: those questions. And I'm so happy to hear that they're 710 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: asking those questions. Do you, Coach Mac. They're going to 711 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: be better for it. You're one of the best. Well, 712 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: thank Sharene, Sharine. I'm I'm just blown away. We could, 713 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: Mac is right, we could talk to you for two days, 714 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: but I know we have to let you go. You've 715 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: got so much going on, but we appreciate your time. 716 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: And I am inviting myself to the next dinner with 717 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: Coach Mac. I love it. I'm in, I'm coming. We 718 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: will all get together, Sharene, and I promise you it 719 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: will be good. And Coach Mack's got enough money to 720 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: pay for us. Also. You're fine. Love it. Thank you, 721 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: Coach Mac Spectacle. I could have talked to her for 722 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I said two days, for more than two days. 723 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: She's very She's impressive, she really is, and I mean 724 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: and the respect that she has garnered throughout her career 725 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, I mean you just heard 726 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: it and the things that she's done, especially for and 727 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: on this Titan's Amy Coachmack podcast, you know, we're gonna go. 728 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna run the gamut of people in the National 729 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: Football League and to me, the pioneers, the women that 730 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: have stepped up in the National Football League and have 731 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: paved the way for others. Shrine Williams is one of those. 732 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, first time first you know, female Hall of 733 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: Fame voter. Uh you know Dick McCann Award. I mean, 734 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: she's she is legit, and she is so legit, but 735 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: she's also so genuine and you know, I've I've known 736 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: her for a long time. Of course she's a Texas 737 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: A and M graduate and of course me being a frog, 738 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, you know all those people down there. But 739 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: look there. She has always been and a good friend 740 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: and she always will be. But she understands this league, 741 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: and she understands this league at a lot of different 742 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: levels and as I said, widely wide respected throughout the 743 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: league in all corridors. Don't get sacked by the high 744 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: cost of healthcare. Make Farm Bureau Health Plans your first 745 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: line of protection. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen 746 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: forty seven, Mac, this has been a solid show. I 747 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: feel like we've covered a lot of ground in a 748 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: short period of time. That's what we intend to do 749 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: is have solid shows, right Yeah, I mean that's the 750 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: game plan. Yeah. Okay, well let's keep doing it. Do 751 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: you have anything else to add? No? Solid? All right? 752 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: For Coach Mac, I'm Amy Wells. Thank you so much 753 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: for listening to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast. 754 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to write a review, subscribe, download it, send 755 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: it to your friends. Whatever you need to do to 756 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: spread the word that we are here. That's what we 757 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: would like for you to do. We'll see you next 758 00:36:48,080 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: time on the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast. Beat 759 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: to Love the be