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Speaker 1: All right, Hi everyone, I'm Rachel, Zoe and Roger and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to or Works for Us, where we talk

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Speaker 1: to people about what works for them in their relationships

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Speaker 1: and of course what doesn't. Okay. So I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things that Roger and I love the most

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Speaker 1: about doing Works for Us is that we get to

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Speaker 1: have very deep, very quality, meaningful conversations with people that

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Speaker 1: we truly love and have loved for very very long time,

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Speaker 1: and even if we've known them for what feels like forever,

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Speaker 1: like today's guests, I'm always really surprised still to find

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Speaker 1: out new details about their love stories and their relationships

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Speaker 1: that I actually never knew before. So today's guests are

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Speaker 1: one of the absolute, I can say this absolute hottest,

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Speaker 1: most beautiful couples in the world. Brian Outwood and doctor

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Speaker 1: Jake Deutsche. The issue is we really just call them

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Speaker 1: doctor Jake all the time, um, which is a title

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Speaker 1: that he earned. I actually call him doctor Jacob Morey

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Speaker 1: is actually how I referred to him. Typically for those

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Speaker 1: of you that no friends, you know that reference. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, since they're very fashionable crew, I think

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Speaker 1: we should describe what they are wearing. Um, I was

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Speaker 1: not done introducing that. I don't care. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the good stuff, Jake. Those sunglasses are insane. There's sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: They're like optics. They're like sort of like I don't

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Speaker 1: need sunglasses, but I do need sunglasses. But you could

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Speaker 1: see my eyes, but you can't see my eyes. I'm

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Speaker 1: so mysterious. I'm amazing. Yeah, you're giving me seventies disco vibes.

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Speaker 1: It's right now. They're kind of like they're kind of

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Speaker 1: like Bono shades at channeling his inner Tom Forward. I

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Speaker 1: was going to say to me, they're very like Tom

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Speaker 1: Forward vibe. A little denim, some great I wear, and

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Speaker 1: Brian is wearing an La Dodger's hat. Wow, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: you knew it was a Dodgers. It's actually scared when

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Speaker 1: I said that that I was wrong, but I just

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Speaker 1: knew what. I've never seen a nude colored La Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I've only seen the blue in the black. Is that

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Speaker 1: a gray market? I think he's playing. He's paying homage

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Speaker 1: to you. Thank you, my friends. Okay, so can I

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Speaker 1: finish my introduction please? So Brian. Brian is one of

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Speaker 1: the most iconic legendary shoe designers who worked for many

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Speaker 1: years as a runway model. So for those of you

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Speaker 1: that don't know what he looks like, I promise you

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Speaker 1: he can play that part. Before being discovered by the

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Speaker 1: late Gianni Versacchi, one of my all time idols, he

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Speaker 1: became the very first American designer to work for Versacchi

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Speaker 1: and later launched his own incredible shoe line, Brian Outwood

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, which quickly became a brand

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Speaker 1: favorite amongst so many many celebrities countless celebrities. I don't

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Speaker 1: even think we could begin to say how many celebrities

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Speaker 1: have worn Brian Outwood on the carpet. His gorgeous I

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Speaker 1: say gorgeous first. I really should say brilliant first, because

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Speaker 1: it's more respectful, but I have to say um. His

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Speaker 1: gorgeous and brilliant partner, Doctor Jake Deitsche, is a very

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Speaker 1: busy physician while also being the founder and clinical director

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Speaker 1: of Care Urgent Care, which aims to raise the standard

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Speaker 1: far and away, the most gorgeous doctor on the planet

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Speaker 1: and happens to be an extraordinary doctor. And I remember

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Speaker 1: when I first met him, which I'll get into later.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was kidding when he said he was

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Speaker 1: a doctor, but he really wasn't. He was like wanted

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Speaker 1: in the art. I did think you're an actor. I

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Speaker 1: thought you were one hundred percent an actor, and he said, actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm an ear doctor. I was like, very funny, no,

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Speaker 1: because we met at a party and it was loud,

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Speaker 1: and I said I'm a doctor and Brian heard actor.

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Speaker 1: And then we met again officially like that was like,

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Speaker 1: I totally forget that party. By the way, I never

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Speaker 1: met you were with your ex and I said hi,

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Speaker 1: and because I was like, ohd be so handsome, and

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm a doctor an actor, and then thank

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Speaker 1: god he heard actor. You wouldn't have been interested if

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Speaker 1: he was like a doctor. Brian would be like whatever,

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Speaker 1: a loser. He's like, sounds I guess to go to

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Speaker 1: work like a normal person. I don't like that. Well

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, guys. So, as I mentioned before, I

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Speaker 1: have known Brian and Jake. I've known Brian for what

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Speaker 1: I think is my entire adult life after college basically,

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Speaker 1: um and I have known Jake since pretty much maybe

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to hear the very in depth

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Speaker 1: story of how you guys found each other, how you

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Speaker 1: fell in love. Welcome to works for us, Brian and Jake. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: I thank you, We're excited, thank you. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: announce first we're separating. What Jake, you can't separate because

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Speaker 1: you're not technically married. No, actually, I'm pretty good with that.

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Speaker 1: talk about how the relationship didn't work. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: will be such good fodder. Can you just do that

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Speaker 1: for me? Please? But I will say you, guys, the

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Speaker 1: thing is on works for us. We've talked to many

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Speaker 1: people that their stories. We're not just like a very happy,

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Speaker 1: lack of drama kind of scenario. This is not like

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Speaker 1: a Cinderella story all the time. But we do always

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Speaker 1: like to start at the beginning. And I think with

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Speaker 1: know that the sort of your story, but I guarantee

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Speaker 1: there's still many parts that we don't and I really

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Speaker 1: want to share with our listeners because I think there

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Speaker 1: are so many people out there in our lives, as

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Speaker 1: you guys know, that have not found love, have not

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Speaker 1: found their forever person, have not found their relationship. And

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Speaker 1: I think that you guys have such a beautiful story

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Speaker 1: and we want to share it. So can you give

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Speaker 1: us a little bit the good, the bad, the ugly

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Speaker 1: um of how you met and just like how it

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Speaker 1: all happened. Well, it started on Facebook when people really

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Speaker 1: communicated through Facebook, because um, Jake's best friend, Brendan Monahan

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Speaker 1: um posted a picture of Jake on Facebook and I

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Speaker 1: knew Brendan through the fashion world and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is after I just broke up

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Speaker 1: out of a relationship. And I added Jake as a

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Speaker 1: friend quickly, and I saw that Jake was online and

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Speaker 1: I saw that he accepted it. The minute I added

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Speaker 1: it kind of started. It was so easy. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know he was out of a relationship, knew nothing about him,

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Speaker 1: don't remember ever meeting him. And then Um, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: up modo. Yes, Internet, by the way, has been how

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Speaker 1: long it has it been? Wait, don't tell me, don't

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Speaker 1: I can get it right. Um, two thousand and nine, ten,

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Speaker 1: I remember saying to Brian, like, I'm not looking for

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Speaker 1: if you don't know that for all of you done

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Speaker 1: going to be back in New York until August twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: and I was a good kisser. First thing I did,

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Speaker 1: first meeting, and we went to dinner at the standard Grille,

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Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, really, Bryan is such an

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Speaker 1: is because there wasn't an expectation of like, all right,

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Speaker 1: like three months we're moving in together. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: when we first met. Um. I think the first time

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Speaker 1: an unbiased perspective. What actually happened was we were at

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Speaker 1: maybe stay at this hotel like da da Da da dah.

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Speaker 1: Jake making blueberry pancakes, and that is what I remember.

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be Brian's in love. I haven't even met him. Me,

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Speaker 1: exactly UM. But I have to say just something totally

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. He's been very active in the pandemic. I

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Speaker 1: personally have used him as my consultant for many breakdowns

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Speaker 1: Jake and I have done Instagram lives about vaccine and

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Speaker 1: the fears, and I think Jake will probably do for

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Speaker 1: let's just I just love getting first impressions. I think

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Speaker 1: the first impressions, like wait, my first impression of them

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Speaker 1: are their first impression of each other. Nobody cares about you, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: but it is a good story of how we met

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Speaker 1: Brian Outwood. So you're welcome to tell the audience how

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Speaker 1: we met Brian. Ok actually, because that's an interesting story

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Speaker 1: As I've mentioned twenty times in the last twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: Brian is extremely handsome, and I'm known to have this

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Speaker 1: for Brian's hand in your permission. He did, Oh, you

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, this is true because I remember we

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Speaker 1: went upstairs in my parents' house. Jake came over and

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Speaker 1: he said, I have to talk to you, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, are they breaking up? I'll die.

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Speaker 1: I can't get through this breakup. Um. And I remember

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Speaker 1: And that was it, and obviously he said yes and

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00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: about weddings and we would talk about it on and off,

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Speaker 1: and then I was like Roger and I were engaged

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Speaker 1: for like four years. To me, the engagement's really the

486
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Speaker 1: But like, ultimately being engaged is like the honeymoon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do whatever feels right. But it's like ultimately there are

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Speaker 1: get invited to a wedding. Honestly, I really have no idea,

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Speaker 1: just wants to go to. I want to go to

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Speaker 1: the wedding. You know. I think it a good wedding, So, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's really the only reason I know

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. Yeah, it's like, come on, guys, like, when

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Speaker 1: are you going to host a big party? It's annoying already.

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Speaker 1: We're due for it, you guys are due for it soon.

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Speaker 1: I know. My birthday was the last big party in

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Speaker 1: New York City before the world shutdown. I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Actually I was there. We were there on your roof,

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Speaker 1: on your roof thing. Okay, So I have a question

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Speaker 1: you guys. I do have like one big, kind of

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00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 1: general question, but it's a kind of a loaded question.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is like the magic to your relationship?

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Speaker 1: Why does it work? What is the thing if you

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Speaker 1: had to think about, like, we are happy and this

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Speaker 1: really works and will be like this forever because because

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Speaker 1: I know like what our answer is. But I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: very curious to hear what you think. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think one part of it is knowing that you're supported,

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Speaker 1: knowing that someone's got your back. That's besides your family. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this is your you know, main family. But I think

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Speaker 1: that I think just being honest and have it, knowing

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Speaker 1: that you're supported and supporting each other. I think that's

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Speaker 1: very important. And no judgment, Yeah, no judgment. Like it's

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Speaker 1: a safe place to, you know, talk about whatever you want. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're changing, we're evolving through this whole relationship. Everyone is.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's normal to talk about all of

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Speaker 1: this and just you know, know that you're in a safe,

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Speaker 1: safe place to do that. It's nice. Yeah, And as

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Speaker 1: a doctor, I think, you know, probably the number one

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Speaker 1: reason it works is tequila. I love you so much

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Speaker 1: sat literally the same purchect because you numb yourself, right,

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Speaker 1: It works because you numb yourself to the constant daily pain.

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Speaker 1: Like Brian and I give these deep heartfelt, thought out,

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Speaker 1: meaningful answers, and then Roger and Jake give some obnoxious zinger.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Well that is really good and funny. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's tequila soda. I agree. You know, Jake, if you

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Speaker 1: just go, if you don't have the mixer, you find

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Speaker 1: yourself getting belligerently drunk too early, space it out. No.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing I was going to add to

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Speaker 1: Brian's very nice comment is, um, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: just being um accepting, intolerant, you know, like, um, I

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Speaker 1: find that like you make, you might a sacrifice, you know,

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Speaker 1: and like there might not be things that are perfect

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Speaker 1: about every part of the stage of your relationship. But

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Speaker 1: unless you conscientiously say, okay, I have to concede, sacrifice,

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00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: make you know, changes to make it work. That's I

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Speaker 1: think one of the solutions that has worked for us.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can't just have a prefixed idea and

542
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: if it doesn't meet that expectation, then throw it all away.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that's probably, you know, in addition

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Speaker 1: to drinking heavily, the other real important part of it.

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Speaker 1: And you have to be open to see that and

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Speaker 1: recognize that idea. But yeah, you know, because I think

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Speaker 1: about that a lot with some of our single friends.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, we have a lot of like perpetually

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Speaker 1: single people, and I just I see this like inability

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Speaker 1: to be flexible or to change that is really inhibiting

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Speaker 1: them from developing longer term relationships. So it seems pretty

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Speaker 1: simple but it's really hard. Part Well, I was going

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Speaker 1: to say, that's actually a point funny enough that we

554
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Speaker 1: have not heard on the podcast has because there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of underlying like similarities. There's like a thread

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Speaker 1: of like, you know, trust and safe person and like

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Speaker 1: Roger and I always say, like rooting for each other,

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Speaker 1: not competing with each other. The other way of saying, Brian,

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Speaker 1: like support is yeah, not being there to be like

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Speaker 1: well I told you so, Like that's not support rooting

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Speaker 1: for exactly rooting for them and making sure that you

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Speaker 1: know they know you're there and they fail, you're on

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Speaker 1: their team. And the other The other thing that's I

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Speaker 1: think been very positive for us is a balance between

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say like power, but just like

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Speaker 1: of our growth and sort of change and adapting. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it's difficult. I see sometimes relationships where one

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00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: person is you know, the bread winner or the lot

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Speaker 1: or the you know, just a bigger personality, and that

574
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Speaker 1: in balance can be difficult to translate to long term

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Speaker 1: success in a relationship. So we've had a good amount

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Speaker 1: of balance. You know. That's really really two really really

577
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: good points that we've really that we haven't talked about.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's an adaptability. And I think I'm

579
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: watching perpetually single friends now as they get older, wanting

580
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Speaker 1: to stay single longer and longer, because the older you get,

581
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Speaker 1: the less tolerant you are, the more set your ways

582
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Speaker 1: you are. And I think you're right. And I think

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Speaker 1: as long as like Roger and I have been together,

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Speaker 1: as long as you guys have been together, you have

585
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Speaker 1: both evolved so much as people. I mean, Jake, if

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Speaker 1: you think about it and ending your careers and they

587
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Speaker 1: flip flop, they equal, they balance. There's a shift in

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Speaker 1: whatever's going on. You know, Brian's not traveling as much.

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Speaker 1: I think with you, Jake, it's like you went from

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Speaker 1: to starting your own practices and now launching a new business.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think you're now more entrepreneurial. And

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Speaker 1: I think there was such a difference before and lost

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Speaker 1: and so I think you're a lot more confident than

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Speaker 1: used to be. Well he has, you know what I mean,

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,040
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Speaker 1: a lot more confidence, you know what I mean. Just

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Speaker 1: But I do think that you guys have grown together,

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637
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: when you need space, can you get it? Can you

638
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: look at him and I go into the other room. Yeah,

639
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: I do. That's exactly what I do. And for a

640
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: long time, you know, Brian lived in Europe more than

641
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: half of the year. Yeah, so for the first I

642
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: would say eight years of our relationship, we did a

643
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: lot of back and forth. Says, now you got me here?

644
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: How is that, Jake, how's that going for you? Those

645
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: long stretches of non Brian time. He keeps the knives

646
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: very sharp. Yeah. I mean, but but like we said,

647
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: with the sort of like the change and what we're

648
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: working on are doing, you know, now I'm out in

649
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: my different offices and practices, Whereas when we first met,

650
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: I was a free agent, and I you know, I

651
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: would work in the hospital. But then I was able

652
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: to travel all the time. Now I don't have that flexibility.

653
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: So you know that as much that space helps, you know,

654
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: kind of keep us insane, you know, I think it's

655
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: really difficult with people in the pandemic working from home

656
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and spending so much time together. I mean, luckily we

657
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: were able to prove that that wasn't an issue for

658
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: us a deal. But I think that that's a real

659
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: struggle that people have that you know, shit, I'm not

660
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: even going into the office. I have to be with

661
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: this person twenty four seven for sure. Oh yeah, I've

662
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: heard basically either people are getting divorced or having babies. Um,

663
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of one or the other.

664
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: You know, you guys at least are in la where

665
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: you have room and space. Yeah, it's been it's been

666
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: a good place to to but Jake, to that end,

667
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: there are days during the pandemic and even now we're

668
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: like we'll both be home all day and night. I

669
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: won't see him until like seven eight at night, and

670
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, how is your day. I've great, Right,

671
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: I've just had great. I didn't want to see him,

672
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: But that's good for each other. That's it's great. It's great.

673
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: It's actually I think it's really help. You live in

674
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: an apartment, so it's a little different circumstance. It's harder

675
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: to like have that really separation if you're not going

676
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: to an office or you know, having other things that

677
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: keep you otherwise occupied. So, yeah, it was nice. We

678
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: went to the office. We went to the office this

679
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: week for the first time. It was really nice, just

680
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: changing the energy and being like office energy, home energy. Yeah.

681
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: Something I wanted to ask you guys. You've been well,

682
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: I should say, Jake has been and now Brian has

683
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: been a dog parent for how long? Jake forever? I

684
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: mean you've had probably done. But you are the like

685
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: dog whisperer, like Goldie, like, we're new to this. When

686
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: we saw you guys this summer, I was like, Okay,

687
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: what do I do? She's eating sand? Can she eat this?

688
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, she can have carrots. I'm like, won't

689
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: she die? He's like no, did your setting boundaries work? Oh? No,

690
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: I know what boundaries? Has no boundaries? Boundaries? Did these

691
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: look like boundaries to you? Boundaries? Look at her puppy,

692
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: she's right there. Look at her. She's so happy she

693
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: is she cuts. But you guys actually have um a

694
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: real well I don't want to say gold he's not

695
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: a real dog. But you have like man dogs. You

696
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: have like human They weigh more than me. I think. Yeah,

697
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: we have two Golden Retrievers in a high rise in

698
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: New York City, LOGICALI and Tiberius. They are the most

699
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: beautifulous dream dog English cream goldens. Thank you. I mean

700
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: they are those dogs are actually magical. I was going

701
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: to have a real dog. It would be definitely your dog,

702
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: all right. Last one of our last questions, what's the

703
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: biggest fight you've ever gotten in? If you can share it?

704
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Do you remember? And how long did it last? Oh?

705
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: Which one are you thinking about? Um? No? Why I

706
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: just began share? No? No, you share it? Wait? I

707
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: remember one way you through my phone and bust and

708
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: broke my phone? Was that the same one you were thinking? No?

709
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: When you see steam coming out of Jake someone's head

710
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: that he was literally like, good explode. I don't even

711
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: what was it about. That's what's so funny. You don't

712
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: even know who knows? Who knows? But there was a

713
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: phone breaking incident that I know. I had to get

714
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: a new phone that next day. It was like, what

715
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: are you doing? Sorry? Crazy? It's okay, You've ben hilarious.

716
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: But it wasn't very long. I mean it was, wasn't it? Okay?

717
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm what about the most what's the most like epic

718
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: experience you've had together, like travel or whatever. I hope

719
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: that the answer I'm thinking of is the one. But

720
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: if it's not, it's okay. You're you're thinking the party

721
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: in Paris. I'm thinking Paris twenty twelve on the in

722
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: the hotel. That was literally the best week of my life. Yeah,

723
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: that was really great. Or Natalie's birthday. I was looking

724
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: Natalie's which one were thinking of When we were in

725
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: Paris it snowed. We had a huge room at the y.

726
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: We had that room that was so big that there

727
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: was a downstairs and Bristol it was it was the

728
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: downstairs that we didn't even know about it. I think

729
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: I think it was Natalie's for for sure. One because

730
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: we never get you in Europe that often, and to

731
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: have you in Italy that on vacation, yeah, and in

732
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 1: like that was just special. And that was my first

733
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: time leaving the kids. Yeah, cried the whole way. And

734
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: then there's been so many I mean, even like you guys,

735
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: like we've had like I mean we've been to Maldives

736
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: were beautiful, Yeah, but not even just travel stuff like

737
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: like going to the met Gallo, you know, you know,

738
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: like shit like that are like going to Oscar's parties.

739
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: I think that you're thirst for life and fun. I

740
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: think listen Brian's always had that. That's always been a thing.

741
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: But I think Jane, watching you kind of like join

742
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: that and love it has been like a treat to

743
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: watch you. Now have you been like were you always

744
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: like that, like more or were you more serious? And

745
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: like mart I would always like that. I'm like a

746
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: weird I'm a weird physician, like I a hybrid. I

747
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: love medicine, but it's not my only identity. So I

748
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: just I love other things that are interesting and you know,

749
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: experiencing things and traveling and whatever it is. So that's yeah,

750
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: that's why things merged so well between us. But you know,

751
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: you're extremely creative and visual, so thanks, yeah, so, but

752
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean there's been so many other things not just

753
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: like events are travel that we've been able to experience, Um,

754
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: just fun together. I feel like you're fun together. I mean, look, Jake,

755
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: you know this better than anyone. Brian is someone that like,

756
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: wherever you go, he's just going to make it more

757
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: fun because he's never gonna let it not be fun.

758
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: He's always going to laugh, he's always going to smile.

759
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: If you're in the worst place and you're miserable, and

760
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and five degrees. It doesn't matter. Brian,

761
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm really gets fine, you know. Roger and I always

762
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: say that he somehow manages to smile and be happy

763
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: through pretty much anything. I don't know that I've ever

764
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: seen Brian like pissed off and over it. And if

765
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: he's over it, it's typically like it'll be like we

766
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: have to go. Jake's hungry, you know, like we always

767
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: know out of gas, and he has got together. It

768
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: is a real gift and that's one of the things

769
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: that he's taught me, I think, is to you know,

770
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: be appreciative and be positive and be tolerant. And it's

771
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: such a simple act, but it's so had not though

772
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: it's hard, it's not simple. It's a gift and he

773
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: does it all the time. And you know, it's like

774
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: we put value on other things in the world that

775
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: are so superficial, whether it's like you know, who you know,

776
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: or how popular are, how much money you make, and

777
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes the value of that is so underappreciated,

778
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: and you know, something to really challenge ourselves to try

779
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: to improve on our daily life. Because myself included, myself included,

780
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: we just were all very serious and in it and

781
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I think when you know, every time we leave at

782
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: dinner with you, guys were just like that was so fun,

783
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: Like I really so light and just. But but even

784
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: if there's just stuff going on, it's sort of like

785
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: live in the moment. And I think that's what you

786
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: take away from it. Oh, Okay, where do you guys

787
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: see yourself in twenty years? If you do your relationship

788
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: you guys, what do you think, Like, what are you

789
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: going to be in New York? How many dogs are

790
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: you gonna be New York? You'll probably be breeding Golden's

791
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: in the Hamptons. I was going to say, yeah, we're

792
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: going to be We're going to be preserved, ye live

793
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: another hundred years, but um, you probably will be. I

794
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe say like we're gonna retire in Capri yea.

795
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: But it could be also like somewhere like in the

796
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: Web's post. They don't have a real hard plan there,

797
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: but he does want it pre golden retrievers that choose

798
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the owner that they want and they're like fifty thousand

799
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: of golden and I'm serious, that is like his dream.

800
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: They're like roll, they're like running these puppies, like twenty

801
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: of them running down these beautiful hills man in Hamptons,

802
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: and people just lose their mind, and that is that

803
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: would make Jake kind of like show and then they're

804
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: like diving in the pool, swimming with all these puppies.

805
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: You know, you know how much you know how much

806
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: I love to garden, and you know, like, so I

807
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: think that wherever, wherever it is there there needs to

808
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: be a house. There needs to be like a yard.

809
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: There needs to be sure so that we can enjoy that. Um.

810
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: Jake is literally, you guys, his university, and he like,

811
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: in addition to actually saving lives on a daily basis,

812
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: he actually can what's the proper name, um, horticulture. Horticulture,

813
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: horticulture Okay, ok yeah. I kind of like say, I'm

814
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: like a you know, semi master gardener. You are, you're

815
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: like a pro sumer gardener. Like it's so beautiful, Like

816
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: they're outside space in New York. I mean, it's just

817
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: like it's unheard of. And I was like, oh my god,

818
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: who did this for you? Jake? Like I can't keep

819
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: an orchid alive everything. Yeah. Yeah, so that's got to

820
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: be like our long term plan to have that that

821
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: kind of space that we can enjoy. And now he

822
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: needs a garden, he needs to be one with the

823
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: earth letting around. And then we need a basement because

824
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: Brian has so much well look at yeah, I got

825
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: Brian's a high class border. So we need to, you know,

826
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: have a place to keep all of the vindu. I

827
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: can't keep that in the basement bapes. Yeah, welcome to

828
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: my world. I know. That's how we had to get

829
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: Jake sweating. He's so he's so you need like a

830
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: mini house for it. Oh God, the amount of the

831
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: amount of stuff. When we went to Milan over the summer,

832
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: he went to the storage and he I could feel

833
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: his temples start to sweat, like he was like getting

834
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: hot because sauce. Because I'm trying to immediately, I'm going

835
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: into practical mode. How are we going to get this

836
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: all back to New York to our house at Hampton's. Yeah,

837
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: you and Jake need to really spend more time together.

838
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I think you should have a weekly call. We probably

839
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: could should. Yeah, let's put it on the agenda and

840
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: we don't really have to talk about much. But just

841
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: knowing that you're the other end of the phone and

842
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: we can compress will be very I'll be really nice.

843
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: I'd like that a lot. Yes, Okay, we're gonna ask

844
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: you a few quick rapid fire. We're going to let

845
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: you go back to life. Okay. Um, my favorite. And

846
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: they need to answer for each O. Sorry, you have

847
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: to answer for each other. It's like the newlyweds. Okay, Jake,

848
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: what do you guys, what are you most likely to

849
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: argue about? Like? What do you bicker about? What's your

850
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: like quickest like like like stuff that Brian lives around

851
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the house organized, yeah, like and and his his closet.

852
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm always just like, why why don't you like go

853
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: in there and organize that? You organize it in the night.

854
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: It's a tornado. I've always said, this is might go

855
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: to line. You think that this stuff just gets done

856
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: around here? Oh my god, that's hilarious to me all

857
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: the time. And then all and then and wait what

858
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: about this? This is a response. It's very sexy, like, babe,

859
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: you like doing that? Oh my god? He has you

860
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: really do have um quite a relationship? God, I do

861
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: you guys are for real? I mean these are the

862
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: real things. Um uh. By the way, nothing it matters.

863
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: But Brian didn't answer for Jake. I was about should

864
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: we care? No, But what Brian, what do you think same?

865
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: What do you think? You are you about the last?

866
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: He just leaves his clothes where ever he takes them off.

867
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: He just drops his clothes wherever they are so like

868
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: my kids. Like my kids, just drop it on the floor.

869
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Change okay, kitchen floor cool. I put myself away. I'm

870
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: very neat and okay, guys, all right, last one, um,

871
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: if you were yeah, I love this one because it's hard. Um,

872
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: it's a good one though. It is a good one. Um, Okay, Jake,

873
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: if Brian, if Brian was a piece of furniture, what

874
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: would he be. He'd be an He'd be like a

875
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: like a very very expensive Italian commode, like a closet. Okay,

876
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: I agree with that, to put all of the like

877
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: shoes and like the clothes and that he loves. By

878
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: the way, I'm with Brian. I'm with Brian. I thought

879
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: you were going to go for like a couch or

880
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: a bed or something. That's where that's where I was envisioning.

881
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: I think that's where Jake's gonna go. Very angular a couch.

882
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: Jake would definitely be a sofa or he can eat

883
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: his chocolate chip cookies late night and exactly what he

884
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: would be. As much as he loves design and the aesthetic,

885
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: he needs to be cozy and comfy. Yeah, that's Some

886
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: of my favorite memories of Jake are like Hampton's Jake

887
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch eating a pint of ice cream,

888
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: very snuggly with my children. Love a good dessert moment.

889
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: You're kind of a grown up kid, Jake, and I

890
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: love that about you. Get grumpy, you get hungry. All right,

891
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: you guys, this was the best. I love you so much.

892
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 1: I love your relationship. I love that we've gotten to

893
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: watch it from the beginning and like just seeing both

894
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: of you evolve so much, and you know, we just

895
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: we love you both so much and continue to be

896
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: by far and away, the most gorgeous couple I've ever

897
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: known in my life. There's no pictures here? How are

898
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: we going on? It's okay, I'll share some, but I

899
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: have Jakes looking for Instagram followers, but here follow doctor

900
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Jake Deutsch, Yes, right, doctor Jake. Okay, by the way,

901
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: you should follow him because you'll learn a lot and

902
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: um again, you know, it's very informative. We we we

903
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: love you guys, and please continue to constantly always appear

904
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: as if you've stepped off the cover of GQ. Don't actuations?

905
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: Do you guys for doing this? Yeah? Yeah, thank you.

906
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: It's fun. We have a lot of fun, Ellen, Jake.

907
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: Let's keep doing our ig lives because I have a

908
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: lot of new questions. Okays starting, I'm starting my boosters

909
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: and all the other stuff. So my medical so Brian,

910
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Brian's going to write the draft script. Yes, okay, just

911
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: making sure. Well, I love you both, love you, Love

912
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: you guys, Love you guys. That was a really good episode.

913
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: And I also like love doing episodes when it's sort

914
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: of like ation of our family. It's like a mirror.

915
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: I will say, it is a bit like looking in

916
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: the mirror with them. Yeah, that's what I was just saying.

917
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, Jake is all like me. He lives

918
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: in hell daily with a creative person who has really

919
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: big heart and sees joy in life and you know,

920
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: um that's true, and needs another person to make sure

921
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: that things happen. Yeah. Well, I mean it's called yin Andy,

922
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: It's called Yin and Yang. And by the way, yes,

923
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: I would like to say, yes, did I vary admittedly,

924
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: in the first twenty years of our relationship was the

925
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: more high maintenance one, but not high maintenance, but I

926
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: would say emotionally a bit more controlling, a bit more

927
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: Oh maybe I don't know about moody, but maybe bossy,

928
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: and then you've lost the bossy trade. Hold on and

929
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: let me finish the thought. But I'd like to say

930
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: that I do feel over the last like five years

931
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: since fight time it right, since we had like roughly

932
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: around when Caius was like two, we did some role reversal.

933
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: You became the sort of high maintenance, temperamental, moody, controlling one,

934
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: impatient and the like, and I became the like, life's

935
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: going to be, all right, let's figure it out kind

936
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: of person. Would you agree with that? I gave you

937
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: the first twenty years very graciously. By the way, well

938
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: thanks for that rage. I appreciate it. So what you're

939
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: saying is the first year. The fact that I stuck

940
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: around for twenty years is basically a testaments. And I'm

941
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: not saying you were easy. I just said, between the

942
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: two of us, well maybe just maybe when you build

943
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: up for twenty years without a valve or an outlet,

944
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: at some point you a lot. Yeah, well obviously, but

945
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: I think you just gotta you know, I think you

946
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: just gotta take control of the situation a little more.

947
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: And I think the issue is is that now that

948
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm taking control and you're used to taking control, there's

949
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of fireworks. No, I think I'm just annoyed anyway,

950
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: So factor Brian and Jake, Brian and Jake, Brian and Jake,

951
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Brian and Jake. So I that was really fun. One

952
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: point that I think Jake meane that I did find

953
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: interesting was that he needed to killa to cope with

954
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: his partner. You are so irritating. Why it's exact thinking

955
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. Brian had that sweet emotional thing. I

956
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: almost fell asleep, and then Jake just let out the singer.

957
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: The best part about that joke actually was when he

958
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: went forward a second time and rang the bell a

959
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: second time with the end tonic. I mean or and sod,

960
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: I think because obviously they wouldn't drink calories. It would

961
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: have to be soda by the way, Jake, they eat

962
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: a ton of food, does guys um. But I will

963
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: say that I think something I did learn they've had

964
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: role reversals, by the way, which I think has been

965
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: super interesting. And I think like one of the points

966
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: that they made, that Jake made, I thought was sort

967
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: of like adaptability to like changes in the relationship and

968
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: like when you fight and how you react to those things.

969
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: And I think you actually i'd like to say this

970
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: year on Jung kupor hold on, save it for your highlight, Rachel, Oh,

971
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: you're right, Okay, I'm rank God, I'm the only person

972
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: show anyway, this is a great episode. So a great episode.

973
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: You guys should know that if you don't know what

974
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: they look like, not to be superficial, you should google

975
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: um doctor Jake Deuts, not just because he's an incredible

976
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: doctor and as all these amazing medical practices, but because

977
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: he's really handsome and Brian, probably from my Instagram, you

978
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: may know that he already is very very handsome. Um,

979
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: there's a lot of seriousness in the world. It's fine

980
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: to just say that. Keep it superficial. And I don't

981
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: think people are listening to this show necessarily for the

982
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: facts of today. What do you mean they're learning about relationships?

983
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: We are relationship counselor no, not professionally noticed. They said

984
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: that they root for each other, which is very important

985
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: not being competitive and also noticing, Like, for instance, Rachel,

986
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: I think what you were trying to say is like

987
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: for the first twenty years when you were like super

988
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: like on the rise, I'm like being the queer woman,

989
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: and now like I am like just such a beast

990
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: in all the things that I'm taking on. Beast do

991
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: you mean like monster or like beast? Do you mean

992
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: like good at things? No, I'm more like Shrek. I'm

993
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: like a beast, but I'm like soft, just compared to

994
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: yourself to Shrek. We'll not physical. I'm down with being

995
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: Fiona's cool, it's hot. But anyway, the point is is

996
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: that I think what you're having trouble with is that

997
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm just peeking baby, and I am my Oh god, well,

998
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: you know everyone's telling me, like, you know, it's my

999
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: birthday this week and they're like, I cannot believe you're

1000
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: turning fifty three. He's thirteen years older than me. So anyway,

1001
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: he has a twelve pack. Actually he's it's I think

1002
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: it's back to like a one pack, but a year

1003
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: ago was a six pack. Um, and he worked really hard.

1004
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: He really works hard on this body. If she saw

1005
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: it more often, she might know my gods. Okay, if

1006
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: you like what you're saying, If you like what you

1007
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: heard so far, oh my god, the low budget show.

1008
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,640
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1009
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,120
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1010
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,160
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1011
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,280
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1012
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Speaker 1: Instagram at at works for Us. Also tell us your story,

1013
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,640
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1014
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,680
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1016
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1017
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,240
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1018
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: can also ask us for relationship advice, although I can't

1019
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: stress enough we're not actually by trade experts, but you

1020
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: probably already know that, But we of course will still

1021
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: take your questions and give our best answers. So if

1022
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,200
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1023
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,400
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1026
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,720
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1027
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: dot four dot us. Okay, so before we go, we

1028
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: want to leave you with our weekly little highlight and

1029
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: low light from our week. Because in relationships, the bad

1030
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: comes with the good, So this is our time to

1031
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: mention a little bit of both of those things. Babe,

1032
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: your highlight and your low light. I'm gonna start with

1033
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: a low light. I've been really really nice, really nice. Okay,

1034
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: that's your highlight. No, that's my low light. You know

1035
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: why it's my low light. Why are you talking like

1036
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: this because this is my radio voice, Reache. We're not

1037
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: in the radio, we're in a podcast. Oh my god,

1038
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: you sound like a freak. Can you get your normal

1039
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: voice back? Please? It is my normal vo. That's better, right,

1040
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: go go go. What's your highlight? What's your light to do? Oh? God, well, Mike,

1041
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: all fine. I was gonna start with my low light,

1042
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: meaning that I'm like super nice and superl engaged, and

1043
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: I thought that that would correspond to a level of

1044
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: nice and engage from you, and I don't know that

1045
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it back. I think maybe you just need

1046
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: to like also like just save up sort of like

1047
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: the choint. What's your highlight? The highlight is I'm hopeful

1048
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: and I what keeps me going? And the Rams. Isn't

1049
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: that a highlight? It is very nice? Yea RAMS three?

1050
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: And now thank you very much. My highlight is Tom Brady.

1051
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: We did what's tom Brady's team again? The Bucks Buccaneers? Ye?

1052
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: Is it just called the Tom Brady team? No Tom Brady, No,

1053
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Speaker 1: although I think they like sell out when they go

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Speaker 1: to other stadiums, just saying obviously, all right, Well, my

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Speaker 1: highlight is that I really am looking forward to spending

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Speaker 1: this fall holiday season with you, my love. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: well let's see. My highlight is definitely your new level

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Speaker 1: or approach to reactivity. Reactivity. Did we decide that was

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: an actual word like you could put it in a

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Speaker 1: scrabble game? Or was that like a made up word?

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Speaker 1: React not reactivity? Might be pretty sure it's a real word.

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Speaker 1: Probably it deals with electrical reactivity, science, chemistry. Something that anyway,

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Speaker 1: point being is that Roger on the Jewish Holiday went

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Speaker 1: on a very long hike and came back a totally

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: changed person and said, this is the new me. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to have more patients, and I've realized

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01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: it's just about all about my reactivity to things. And

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Speaker 1: he's going to look at how he reacts to different situations.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say, I think it's been ten

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: or twelve days and you have been really nice. You

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: have been literally a totally different person. Okay, anyway, my

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Speaker 1: low light is Okay, guys, here's the thing for all

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Speaker 1: of you parents out there that we're really, really really

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Speaker 1: excited for our kids to go back to school. And

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I'm so happy kids are in school,

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Speaker 1: but getting back to school mom life in addition to

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Speaker 1: my other life, it is hard core, like getting up

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01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: in the dark, getting them out the door, getting it's

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Speaker 1: just it's it's all just a it's a whole nother

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Speaker 1: full time job, as all of you parents know. So

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01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: that low light is really challenging to kind of get

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01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: back in the mom school mom schedule of life and

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Speaker 1: how early it actually is and the homework and all

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Speaker 1: of that. But anyway, wishing everybody a really safe, awesome

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01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: week filled with lots of highlights, and we will see

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Speaker 1: you all next week. We won't see you, but we

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Speaker 1: will speak to you and keep listening. We love you guys.

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Speaker 1: By Ye