1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of The 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: List Be Real Podcasts. As always, my name is Sammy J. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: And this week's episode, we have Adam Met. You probably 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: know him from his band A j R. He is 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: also the executive director of Sustainable Partners and is currently 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: getting his PhD and human rights. With this nonprofit that 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: he started, he's been working with the u N and 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: he's been educating people on climate change all around you. Guys, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I love this episode so much. I learned a lot 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: and as always, I can't wait for your feedback. Okay, Adam, 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you're on my podcast because we 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. We're in a very 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: strange time with a pandemic, and you are a huge 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: actus and you're also a huge musician. Um, what has 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: it been like working on your music in this pandemic? 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Music has been really weird over the last eight months, 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we talk a lot about how we 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: make all our music in our living room, and funny enough, 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of artists have had to transition and make 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: music the way we've made music our entire career, because 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: now they have to make music in their bedroom, in 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: their living room because they can't really go into big studios, 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and we've never worked in big studios, so I know 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot it's the pandemic has been really hard for 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: a lot of people. But professionally it's the process. Well 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: for us, Yeah, we know what we're doing. I mean, 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what's so great is you know you 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: first of all, you get to work in your living room. 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to work in a stay. Do you 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: have that creative freedom? Um, has have you drawn any 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: more inspiration or has it been hard to find inspiration 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: during this pandemic when creating music, it's been It hasn't 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: been that difficult to find inspiration, but it's a very 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: different kind of inspiration. So pre pandemic, the way the 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: songwriting happens, Ryan and Jack do most of the songwriting, 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: but they tend to look at the world around them 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: like they are in college or they're going to parties 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: where we're on tour, and the kind of look around 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: them for for inspiration. But now the music we're writing 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: is much more internally focused. We actually have time to 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: explore our own minds and figure out, Okay, what's happening 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: in these shadows over here is it more you know, 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: nostalgic or is it more self reflective? And it's it's 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: having us create a different kind of music. And you know, 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: our song Bang is about that transition between being a 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: kid and being an adult and you know, actually having 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: to eat keen wa because that's the adult thing to do, 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: and you know, do what your taxes because you're supposed 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: to do that as an adult. But post Bang, like 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: are the last song we released as one called bummer Land, 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: and the songs are much more self reflective. And I 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: think that's because we are being forced to be more 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: self reflective during quarantine. I mean, how can you not be, 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: especially when you're at home, when you can't keep distracting 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: yourself with the work, you have to really focus on yourself. 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: Do you make any discoveries during quarantine about yourself or 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: any passions that you didn't know you had? Oh, that 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: is a good question, Um, passions that I didn't know 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: that I had. I've always liked to cook, but I 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: think I've been cooking two and three times as much, 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: uh during quarantine. Um. I really like Asian food, so 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I've been making a lot of you know, noodle soups 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: and dumplings and things like that. So I think I'm 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna take that with me after quarantine is over and 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: continue to do that. I mean, that's an awesome skill too. 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: I love cooking to have a favorite dessert to make, Oh, dessert. 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm really bad at dessert. I tried to make um 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: dessert once and it ended up tasting like soap because 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: I used like the wrong I used either baking soda 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: instead of baking powder, or baking power instead of baking soda. 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Still excuses me. Something that I'm really excited to talk 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to you about is how focused you are on sustainability 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and the environment and how we can become more eco 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: friendly UM as a society. So for those who don't know, 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: how would you describe what it is to reduce your 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: carbon footprint? Yeah, so it's a really interesting concept. The 77 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: term carbon footprint was actually coined by BP, the oil company, 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: which is really surprising. That's contradictive, Yeah, exactly. UM. BP 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: came up with this term after there was a massive 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: oil spill and wanted to put the burden on individual 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: people instead of them taking the blame themselves for making 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: the environment a better place. So right off the bat, 83 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: we have problems in the environmental space. So something that 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I work on a lot is this idea of individual 85 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: responsibility versus corporate and government government responsibility. And yes, it 86 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: would be amazing if everybody you know, switched to paper straws. 87 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: But even if every single person in the world switched 88 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: to paper straws, that would do almost nothing to help 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: protect the environment what we really need to do. And yeah, 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: and I know there have been a lot of campaigns 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: about straws, and you see, you know, turtle swimming in 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: the ocean with straws up their noses and that. Yes, 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: of course it's terrible, But even if we got rid 94 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: of all the plastic straws, it would be point o 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: o o one per cent of the work we need 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: to do. The best thing we could possibly do is 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: convince the companies where that we buy things from to 98 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: actually make changes on their side. There are some amazing 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: companies out there. There's a shoe company called All Birds 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: who is incredible that makes their shoes completely sustainable. And 101 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Microsoft just made a huge announcement that actually developed plane 102 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: fuel that doesn't put any carbon into the atmosphere. So 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: if we can support companies that are making really big 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: sweeping changes, and if we can choose somebody like All 105 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: Birds over another shoe company. You know, shoes, if you 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: think about it, Actually the shoes that you're wearing on 107 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: your feet are made mostly of plastic which are made 108 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: from petroleum. So essentially people are walking around with big 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: buckets of oil on their feet and they don't even 110 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: think about it that way. So if your choices can 111 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: help companies that are doing a really good job with sustainability, 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: that's how we're going to make the biggest change. Okay, 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: so many questions. First of all, just to break it 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: down for people who including myself, who aren't as aware 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: of sustainability as I should be, because I think this 116 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: needs to be talked about. More carbon, Yeah, what is it? 117 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: What is it made of? How does it affect the Earth? Yes, 118 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: carbon is a molecule, and if you look at the 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: periodic table of elements, if you're in middle or high school, 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: you're probably learning about the periodic table um carbon see um. 121 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: One of the greenhouse gases that goes into the atmosphere 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: from driving cars, planes, transportation, anything like that, is something 123 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: called CEO too, which is one carbon molecule and two 124 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: oxygen molecules and that goes up into the atmosphere, and 125 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: what it does is we're increasing the number of those 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: molecules that are going up into the atmosphere and it's 127 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: warming the planet, which means that the polar ice caps 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: are going to start to melt, sea levels are gonna rise. 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: It's going to make the areas around the equator harder 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: to live in. Plants are not going to be able 131 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: to grow as easily, and we are killing off a 132 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: lot of different species, especially insects. Climate change is very controversial, 133 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: which I don't understand why because science is science. You 134 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: can't scientists facts. It's it's not about opinion in that way. Um, 135 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: what can we do to make it so the world 136 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: doesn't keep getting warmer? One, it's voting for people who 137 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: have really good records on climate change and are saying 138 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: they're committed to it. Um. Number two, it's getting out 139 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: into the street and making your boy has heard. And 140 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: number three it's it's what I call the micro influencer. 141 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: And they don't have massive social media platforms. They have, 142 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, a few hundred or a few thousand followers 143 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: on social media, but the people who are following them 144 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: are their friends and their family. Yeah, you're much more 145 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: likely to listen to advice from your friends and your 146 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: family then you are from a celebrity. So as a 147 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: micro influencer, you have a lot more power over your 148 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: community than somebody who has millions of followers. I was 149 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: doing a lot of just try and do as much 150 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: advocating for this past election, and something I kept telling 151 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: people is that there's always someone that will listen to 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: you that won't listen to anyone else. For those who 153 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: don't think, Okay, climate change, it's not going to affect me, 154 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: What do you say to them? Why should I care 155 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: about it? Climate change affects every single person. Um, I 156 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: know you have listeners here in the United States and 157 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: probably around the world. If you think about what's happening 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: in Detroit and access to water, climate changes affecting you. 159 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: The indigenous communities around the United States, the Native Americans 160 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: very much affected by climate change. Even the heat waves 161 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: across California that have caused these enormous forest fires are 162 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: climate change related. New Orleans, Texas, and Florida across the South, 163 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: the hurricanes, all of these are climate related effects. So 164 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: you were past the point where we're saying, Oh, it's 165 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: not affecting me, So then why don't people believe it? 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: People don't believe it because they don't see the connection 167 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: between the two. You know, you've heard about forest fires 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: your entire life. Oh, there was a forest fire and 169 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: we need to put it out. They don't understand that 170 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: the forest fires that are happening now are so much worse. 171 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: What we need to do is really have a strong education. 172 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: And that's something that I care about a lot. I mean, 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: I've stayed in school for a long time and I'm 174 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: almost done with my doctorate, But I think this kind 175 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: of information should be being taught at elementary school level, 176 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: middle stoo level, high school level. I find that so interesting, 177 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking back. My brother goes to college 178 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: out in the West Coast and his school actually had 179 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: to put out an evacuation notice because the air quality 180 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: got so bad because of the fires, so he had 181 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: to leave for a few days with his roommate. So 182 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: that's because of climate change. Um, when did you find 183 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: this passion? Was it through your through creating music? Was 184 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: it before? Was it just through school? My passion for 185 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: climate and sustainability came through human rights. So we would 186 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: travel the world as musicians, seeing people in all different 187 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: types of communities and the thing that brought them together 188 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: was our show. So we would go to you know, Moscow, Russia, 189 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and into Ukraine and all across Europe and Australia and US, Canada, 190 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: South America. And the fact that they didn't even speak 191 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: our language but they would still be singing all our 192 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: lyrics back to us made me think of the things 193 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: that make us more that that that that make us 194 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: more in common then make us different. That's not the 195 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: right way of saying but more common we have more 196 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: common ground with people in the division. That is the 197 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: right way of saying it. Thank you for fixing that 198 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: for me. Um So I started thinking about, you know, okay, 199 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: what are these things that divide us and what can 200 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: we be doing aside from music to bring people together. 201 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: And one of my degrees that I'm focusing on is 202 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: human rights law and what can we do from a 203 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: legal perspective to make sure everyone is protected? And climate 204 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: change and sustainability became a key part of that because 205 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: one of the big things around the world that is 206 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: actually violating human rights laws are countries that are not 207 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: protecting their citizens from the effects of climate change. You've 208 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: always talked about, you know, the connection between human rights 209 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: and climate change. Would an example of this be what 210 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: happened in Flint, michion In with the lead in the water. Absolutely, so, 211 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: the US government did not protect people's right to water. 212 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: Period They did not protect people's right to water. And 213 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: it was a local failure and it was a national failure. 214 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: And yes, the fact that the right to water was 215 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: violated makes it a climate problem because we need to 216 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: look at how we can take water from the resources 217 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: around us and bring it into people's homes. Now, I 218 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: think this is so fascinating to me. And I know 219 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: you started the nonprofit of Sustainable Partners, and I know 220 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: you've also uh partnered with the u N, which is huge. 221 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: How did that come about? Did you approach them? And 222 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: also I'm always curious and like the behind the scenes, 223 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: the business side of things. How do you make that 224 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: kind of initiative actually happen. Yeah, it's a really good question. 225 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean I started working with the u N a 226 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: couple of years ago because they were looking for ale 227 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: to help especially translate their really complex scientific ideas around 228 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: sustainability and make them accessible to younger people to understand, Okay, 229 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: what really is happening with climate change? How can we 230 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: fix problems of poverty and education? And that partnership with 231 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: the u N developed into, you know, a much deeper partnership. 232 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: We did something with I Heart Radio where we recorded 233 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: a series of p s a S Public service announcements 234 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: that ended up reaching over eighty million people, educating them 235 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: about sustainability. And it's crazy, but that only happened because 236 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: of partnerships. And that's one of the reasons why I 237 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: named my nonprofit Sustainable Partners, because the only way that 238 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: we're going to amplify this messaging is through developing really 239 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: strong partnerships. That is so incredible, and I think if 240 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: we all joined together and become partners, I really think 241 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: that we can accomplish some really great things. We have 242 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: to take a quick break, but when we come back, 243 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk more about your nonprofit Sustainable Partners, 244 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: how you and your brothers have figured out a way 245 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: to minimize your carbon footprint on tour, and how your 246 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: passion for sustainability has impacted your music career. We'll be 247 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. Something that I also want 248 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: to talk about is I know, you've found a way 249 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: to become very sustainable on tour um and I think 250 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: that's so awesome. But how do you do that? Because 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: tour you know, you're on buses, a lot, your on planes, 252 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: you're in hotels, there's a lot of drinks. Like, how 253 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: how did you manage for that to happen? Yeah, it 254 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: was a slow and a long process, and at this moment, 255 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: there is no perfect solution. It's more expensive to tour 256 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: sustainably than it is to tour not sustainably, and it's 257 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: just a reality right now, and hopefully within the next 258 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: five years will come up with more and more solutions. 259 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: But one of the main things we do is something 260 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: called carbon offsets, which essentially you can pay to pull 261 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the carbon out of the atmosphere that you put into 262 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: the atmosphere, and you can pay to do that through 263 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: planting trees, pulling plastic out of the ocean, and a 264 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: bunch of different offsetting mechanisms. Yeah. Yeah, So when we fly, 265 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: we calculate how much carbon we've put into the atmosphere 266 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: on the course of that flight, and we pull that 267 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: amount of carbon out of the atmosphere. It's not a 268 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: perfect solution because We're still putting the carbon into the 269 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: atmosphere to begin with, but it is something that can 270 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: slow down. Yeah, exactly. What It's something that I find 271 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: really refreshing. Is I am so fascinated by the education 272 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: system and the importance of it. What do you love 273 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: so much about learning because you keep going back to school? Yeah, 274 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: I keep going back to school. Um, And I have 275 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: to say, it does get very expensive, and I understand 276 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: that that is a big barrier for people that the 277 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: education system in this country, in the US in particular, 278 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: is too expensive. And I know a lot of the 279 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: people running for office, you know, I want to forgive 280 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: college debt and support that. But to actually answer your question, 281 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: I really love learning new things in ways that are interdisciplinary. 282 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is I would never 283 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: try and go get a degree in something like biochemistry, 284 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people would, but that's 285 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: just not the way my mind works. I am studying 286 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: the relationship between law and sustainability, and that takes into 287 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: account everything from law, science, humanities, sociology, anthropology, marketing, communications. 288 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: I like looking at things in terms of systems, and 289 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: that means the way things relate to each other and 290 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: the connections between things, and that's how our world functions. 291 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: And of course I don't blame people that are just 292 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: going into study biochemistry, because yes, that is an incredibly 293 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: interesting field. But I care about the connections between things, 294 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: and the academic world has allowed me to explore those 295 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: to my heart's content. I'm applying to colleges. Now, what 296 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: advice do you have about the college experience that you 297 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: can share, or even advice that you wish someone had 298 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: told you before undertaking this entire experience. I would say, 299 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: don't underestimate the value of a year off, either you know, 300 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: right before you go to college or even after you 301 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: do a year or two of college, taking a break 302 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: in the middle. I really advocate for that. I did 303 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: my first year of school and then I took a 304 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: year off to do a little bit of traveling, but 305 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: also to just take some time and breathe. And I 306 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: know some people can't afford that opportunity, and I feel 307 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: very you know, blessed that I was able to do that. 308 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: But taking time that's just for you as an individual 309 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: right now, especially in the middle of COVID. I couldn't 310 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: advocate for them more. I think I think we all 311 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: need to focus on our mental health. I think that 312 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: plays a big part in everything. To go back to 313 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: the music to tie it all in with all this, 314 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: UM has this education that you've continue to pursue and 315 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: your passion for sustainability and law and human rights influence 316 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: are impacted the way you want to create music, UM 317 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: or market your music. Yeah, that is a really good question. UM. 318 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: I struggle every day with how to incorporate the work 319 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: that I'm doing outside of music with the rest of 320 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: my music career. I mean, you you hit the nail 321 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: on the head, but I think there are elements of 322 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: it that we've its way into our music. UM. Our 323 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: song Burned the House Down is a perfect example. We 324 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: wrote it just because we were observing that our generation 325 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: around us and the amazing change that they were able 326 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: to that people were able to create just by marching 327 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: in the streets. And then the March for Our Lives 328 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: campaign picked up the song and started using it as 329 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: their theme song. UM. Yeah, they are. There are such 330 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: amazing and amazing group of people who have created real 331 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: change in the world. And I mean, on on my 332 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: podcast that I have I interviewed one of the founders 333 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: and the organizing director for that, and we've become really 334 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: good friends, and that happened through the music. So anything 335 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: we can do to allow the music to inspire people 336 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: to make a change and a difference in their own world, 337 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: I would say that's one. And then the second thing 338 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: is using our platform. I mean we if you look 339 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: at our website right now, our website doesn't look like 340 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: a normal artist's website. It gives you information about how 341 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: to advocate for those in your community that need the most, 342 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: how to find UM elected officials that are doing the 343 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: most to fight inequality, UM and to fight for climate. 344 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: So we want to use our platform absolutely as much 345 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: as possible to help. I think that's so awesome. Where 346 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: do you see yourself continuing this? Is it to keep 347 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: pursuing education, is it to get into legislation, Is it 348 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: to incorporate it more in your music? Or is it 349 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: all of the above. It is all of the above. 350 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be done with my PhD. Knock on wood. 351 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, if I pass my dissertation, UM, I should 352 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: be handing it in April or May, and then I'll 353 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: be done with that. UM. But I see myself continuing 354 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: to be in school. I'd love to write more in 355 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: a way that's accessible because you know, when you're in school, 356 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: you write for a very particular audience. But I'd love 357 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: to write more op eds and articles for you know, 358 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: different outlets and magazines to help make sustainability something that 359 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: is more accessible to people, because you're you're right, it's 360 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: very complicated and it's very difficult for people to understand. Okay, 361 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: what can I do about this? I want to be 362 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the person who can help make clear what we can 363 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: do to make this change. Have your brothers also found 364 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: have the same passion or is this something that you 365 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: just kind of carry on and translate? Um, they do 366 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: a lot of other things outside of music. Um, this 367 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: passion for activism is not as much part of their life, 368 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: but they support it tremendously. But they do a lot 369 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: of other things. They write for a lot of other artists. UM. 370 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: There in the middle of doing a pitching a TV show, 371 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: UM that they wrote the first season four, And they 372 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: are also in the middle of working on a Broadway 373 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: show that a producer approached them to write. That's great. 374 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: I think that's so cool that you can all you're 375 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: not all doing the same things, and you can you know, 376 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: enjoy these different parts of life of bringing all together 377 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: and how is that? How has that been working with 378 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: your family for what has it been like fifteen years? 379 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: How how how is that has it made her relationship stronger? 380 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Has it been tough at some points because it can 381 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: be hard to work with your family. It is definitely 382 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: made our relationships stronger. We grew up in a tiny 383 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: apartment in New York City. The three of us shared 384 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: the same room until I left for college, which was 385 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. We had triple bunk beds um but working 386 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: together has been was like a little bit of a 387 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: struggle in the beginning, and then the three of us 388 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: found our lanes, Like Ryan is so good at producing 389 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: the music and Jack is really good at coming up 390 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: with those catching melodies, and I kind of fell into 391 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: this space that's more focused on the business and marketing side, 392 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: and I found that I've excelled there, you know, figuring 393 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: out how to take the music and work that they 394 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: do and presented to the public, whether it's the kind 395 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: of content that we're posting on social media. The strategies 396 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: for rolling out our albums are radio campaigns and working 397 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: with my heart. Um. That is where where I've found 398 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: that I excel in the fact that we each respect 399 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: each other's expertisees has allowed us to grow to the 400 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: size that we are. I think it's so incredible and 401 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: it's really refreshing to still do what you love but 402 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: also have other things on the side and not have 403 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: it rely on one specific thing. Um, if you could 404 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: collaborate with any artists, not for a song or single, 405 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: but with this, with sustainability, who would it be? And why? 406 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: Oh that is such a good question and a question 407 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: that I've never been asked anything like before. See Okay, 408 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's for someone You guys get interviewed a lot. 409 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: That's like it, that's like, that's like my goals, has 410 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: questions that you've never gotten. That makes me happy. Awesome. Um, 411 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: let me think. So there are a few people, Now 412 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: these aren't necessarily music artists. These are you know, celebrities 413 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: and other forms. But Leonardo DiCaprio has done an unbelievable 414 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: job in making bio diversity something that's really really important 415 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: and it's not just oh, I'm going to do some 416 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: sort of vanity campaign because I know that the world 417 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: is in danger. He has done his homework, He has 418 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: educated himself. He really understands the problems that are going 419 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: on in the world, and he has a platform and 420 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: if you look at his Instagram, I don't know cent 421 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: about of it at awareness. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty amazing. 422 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: And to be able to use his platform and collaborate 423 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: on something, I would say, Leo DiCaprio, Okay, let's let's 424 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: manifest it. I feel like I could see that you 425 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: Thenard DiCaprio, the U N we have to take one 426 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: more quick break. But when we come back, I want 427 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: to talk about how we can all make an impact 428 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: and get involved to help our world. We'll be right back, 429 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: and we're back for people of all ages, because I 430 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: know for a while I was struggling to not know 431 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: how to become an activist and how to make the change, 432 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes it's when you're young, you're not 433 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: taking as seriously. How can anyone get started? How can 434 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: anyone get started? Look at Greta on Burke. She's awesome, 435 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: She's amazing. She went on strike from school for I 436 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: don't know, almost a hundred weeks, just her outside sitting 437 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: with a sign saying that she was striking for the climate, 438 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: and she would do it every single Friday. And first 439 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 1: it was just her for weeks and weeks and weeks, 440 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: and then there were three students, then there were a hundred, 441 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: then there were ten thousand, and then when we were touring. 442 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I've spoken at climate strikes all around the world. I 443 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: marched in one in Austria, I spoke in one in Omaha, 444 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: did one in Chicago, in Australia, all these different places. 445 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: She created a movement. And there are two organizations. One 446 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: is called Friday's for Future, which is the one that 447 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: she works with, which is amazing and anybody of any 448 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: age can get involved in very simple ways. The other 449 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: one is a great one that's based in the US. 450 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: It's called Sunrise, the Sunrise Movement. They are amazing and 451 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: they helped to get a lot of people elected, and 452 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: they helped to write Joe Biden's climate policy. And I 453 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: know that sounds really crazy, like yeah, it's people who 454 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: are from ten fourteen years old all the way through 455 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: adults working on this together. That makes me happy. I 456 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: feel like we should all come together more and I 457 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: hope that will happen in that we have more unity 458 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: as a society and we all take climate change more seriously. 459 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: For just to give people a sense if we don't 460 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: address climate change, what will happen to the earth? Oh, 461 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: that is a very sad thought. So there are islands 462 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: around the world that will no longer exist. There will 463 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: there are islands in the southeast that will just completely 464 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: be covered in water. If you think about Florida and Texas, 465 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: which are you know, the southernmost places in the continental 466 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: United States, they will become uninhabitable. It will be too 467 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: hot for people to live in those places. Um the 468 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: smoke that you see in California because of the wildfires 469 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: that will exist across the world. And then finally, there 470 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: are many other things, but finally, access to water is 471 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: going to become incredibly difficult. You you've seen videos, you 472 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: know of people in the middle of Africa who don't 473 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: have running water, who actually have to walk to a 474 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: well to get water. Water is going to start to 475 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: be rationed. It's one of our most valuable resources right now. 476 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Even the biggest investors in the world are starting to 477 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: invest in water because they know that that's something that 478 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: is going to become really scarce if we don't fix 479 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: climate change. WHOA and I think you know, I've been 480 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: trying to educate myself more in these issues. And I 481 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: believe it was in France that they're really making water clean, 482 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: water more accessible. How do we make those kind of 483 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: initiatives happen in the US, because I feel like a 484 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of other countries are more advanced in that and 485 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: in sustainability. Yeah, it's true, and a lot of it 486 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: is going to come from political will, meaning what politicians 487 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: are doing. And politicians are only going to know what 488 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: to do if we tell them what to do. You know, 489 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: politicians work for us. We get to fire them four years, 490 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: like we just did. You know we we fired somebody 491 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: just now. Um, So we need to make it very 492 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: clear what we're looking for from the people that that 493 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: work for us. It's our tax sellars that literally pay 494 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: their salaries and give them the budgets to do what 495 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: we want to do. So, like we were talking about before, 496 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: this idea of the micro influencer sharing these ideas. I mean, 497 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: you you learned about France and the access to water 498 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: and that they can filter water in the systems that 499 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: they have built throughout the entire city. It's amazing what 500 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: they're doing in Paris. If we can just spread education 501 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: about that and as we're going out and marching with 502 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: these organizations like I mentioned, if we're looking for specific, 503 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: concrete change, that's how we're gonna make it happen. It 504 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: all comes down to education, honestly, it does. It absolutely does. 505 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: And education doesn't just mean going to school. Education means 506 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: taking the time that you're you know, scrolling through social media. 507 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: There are millions of accounts that are amazing and teach 508 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: you about things. And it doesn't just have to be 509 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, Dam's challenges, as great as those are, um, 510 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: there are TikTok accounts that teach us about sustainability. There 511 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: Instagram accounts that teach about it. It's a great way 512 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: to kind of sprinkle in your vegetables along with your dessert. 513 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: It totally does. Honestly, during this past election, I was 514 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: I started following different accounts that fact check the news 515 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: and all that, and it gave me the one minute 516 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: recap of everything I need to know an interesting way. So, 517 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: but make sure make sure it's reliable whatever source you do. 518 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: I think that's something that I realized. You always have 519 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: to fact check absolutely, and fact checking doesn't really take 520 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: that long. People say, oh you have to fact check, 521 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: you have to fact check. Yes, if you find a 522 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: source that you've gone through a few of their different 523 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: articles or videos and you double check the information, you 524 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: can rely on that source. You don't need to fact 525 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: check every single thing that they post. You know, you 526 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: know that they're reliable and you can go to them 527 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: as your go to source. One that I really recommend 528 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: is now This Now This is an amazing account. Follow 529 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: them on YouTube awesome. Yep. They do videos, they're really short, 530 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: easy to understand, and they have a great focus on sustainability. 531 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: So every season, I've been trying to highlight different charities 532 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: and nonprofits to bring awareness to things because I've been 533 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: feeling really helpless this year like so many people. So 534 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: I want to shout out your nonprofit, Sustainable Partners, because 535 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: what you're doing is so important. So please tell people 536 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: how they can donate, get involved because what you're doing 537 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: with this organization is incredible. Definitely, we do so many 538 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: different things. We work with businesses, we work with individuals, 539 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: we work with I Heart, and we work with the 540 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: u n UM. You can go to our website which 541 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: is Sustainable Partners, Inc. Dot org and we have a 542 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: donate page. But one of the really cool things you 543 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: can do if you don't have money to donate is 544 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: listen to our podcast. It's called Planet Reimagined, and for 545 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: every person that subscribes to the podcast, we plant a treat. 546 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: So even just hitting that subscribe button, you are helping 547 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: us to be more sustainable and the world to be 548 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: more sustainable. I love that. That's awesome. Okay, that's incredible, 549 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: And Adam, I just want to thank you for coming 550 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: on my podcast. What you're doing is so inspiring and 551 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: it makes me want to take more action in the world. Again. 552 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: If you haven't already, go check out Sustainable Partners. Thank 553 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: you so much. This was awesome. Thank you for having me. 554 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: I hope you guys like this week's episode of the 555 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Let's Be Real podcast. If you have not already, don't 556 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: forget to subscribe, leave a comment and share this podcast 557 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: with so many love. As always, don't forget to follow 558 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: me on Instagram at It's Sammy J. That's I T 559 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: S S A M M Y J A y E. 560 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a great rest of your 561 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: day and I'll see you next time. Bye, guys.