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Speaker 1: and boy, do we have a show for you. One
Speaker 1: of the best matchups of the season. Are you Hike
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Speaker 1: Chiefs Offense, Cowboys defense who This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun one and we've got plenty to talk about on
Speaker 1: this one. As always. Heck Ma Harris and Isaiah stand back,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, We've got Chris Beam in the back. Everybody good,
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Speaker 1: it's more of like strapped down. Make sure the roller coasters.
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry Rob, No, right, yeah, baby, seat around both
Speaker 1: bull shoulders. Yes, yeah, it's going. I'm ready, put the
Speaker 1: head rest and the helmet on. You're about to buckle
Speaker 1: up and get ready to go. Heck mo, you're ready
Speaker 1: of course already. Are you talking about? Let's go around
Speaker 1: your neck pillow just in case it rubs and knicks
Speaker 1: if I ever good on one. That is the most
Speaker 1: bougie thing I think I've ever heard say. The kids
Speaker 1: have to have it, really though, Yeah, the kause the
Speaker 1: kids always fall asleep and throw up with one. He No,
Speaker 1: yeah I didn't either, So I think I think you
Speaker 1: and I turned out for I'm like mc light. I'm
Speaker 1: a rough nick, you know. But but the kids nowadays,
Speaker 1: they're not do it to say truth true? Huh yeah, okay, okay, evolution.
Speaker 1: I'll get back to you in a couple of years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know a couple of years. Oh, I
Speaker 1: mean putting it? I mean you said it. I'm not
Speaker 1: coming with two? No, because the couple two isn't that
Speaker 1: the reference a few a few let's say a few years. No,
Speaker 1: don know what I'm saying to stop watch Chase put
Speaker 1: that place number seventeen twenty three, Stop nine two am
Speaker 1: you s got this? I'm gonna get like a message
Speaker 1: from Rob that day and he's gonna be like, so
Speaker 1: calendar and be like, what are you talking about? You're crazy? Oh.
Speaker 1: So we are going to preview the Cowboys defense versus
Speaker 1: that Chiefs offense and the Chiefs offense finding the rhythm
Speaker 1: against the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday night. Foot football
Speaker 1: put up forty one points, the majority of those coming
Speaker 1: in the second half of Before we get into that,
Speaker 1: anything come out of yesterday. It was a day off
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, so kind of a slow Tuesday, right Rob,
Speaker 1: It was slow. News wise was awesome. We touched on
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones on the fan yesterday and what the right
Speaker 1: tackle situation might look like if Tyrant Smith comes back
Speaker 1: as early as this week. Other than that, I mean,
Speaker 1: hadn't been a whole lot of news in the in
Speaker 1: the old been there. One thing I did want to
Speaker 1: ask was is there any significance of having Debarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: back on the sideline again? The fact that he was
Speaker 1: on the sideline. He hasn't activated that practice window yet,
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to that point, but he was around right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, and I think he's all I think that'd
Speaker 1: give some juice on the sideline when we talked about
Speaker 1: kind he kind of sets the tone for this defense
Speaker 1: when he's been out there, and he's also ramping up
Speaker 1: his rehab. I mean, he's doing more deering practice off
Speaker 1: to the side with Britt Brown than we've seen, so
Speaker 1: I think he is getting closer. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: if there's any injuries. Ceedee Lamb had the arm contusion
Speaker 1: that kept him out of the second half, but I
Speaker 1: think if they weren't up by forty points, he probably
Speaker 1: would have been back in there. I think he's supposed
Speaker 1: to practice today most likely. That's good. And heck, I
Speaker 1: know you've been on a sideline like that before and
Speaker 1: you like the sounds of the sideline too. Love In
Speaker 1: terms of the video and that was released yesterday, but
Speaker 1: did you like seeing DeMarcus Lawrence back out there instead
Speaker 1: of being in like a field level suite and dapping
Speaker 1: up the guys when they come by, at least actually
Speaker 1: having a presence on the sideline. I mean, tak is
Speaker 1: one of the unquestioned leaders of your team and it's
Speaker 1: got to be killing him. To be sideline and not
Speaker 1: be a part of what's going on. Just gotta imagine
Speaker 1: all of the work that goes into this for these
Speaker 1: guys as as brothers, and an injury kind of ostracizes
Speaker 1: you from the group and you finally can you know,
Speaker 1: you're getting back to yourself and you feel healthy and
Speaker 1: obviously you can walk on your foot again. You want
Speaker 1: to be down on the sideline in any capacity. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be away, you know, I'd be back
Speaker 1: there with Chris, you know something like you know, like
Speaker 1: something like that, because you just it's something that you
Speaker 1: do every day. Football is a part of him. And
Speaker 1: not only that, Like I said, he's one of the
Speaker 1: unquestioned leaders of this team. Heck but loses his voice
Speaker 1: and he's in the back with like cough drops and things.
Speaker 1: Boy like we're sitting there with Chris. I'll be all here, Horsey.
Speaker 1: Don't you worry about it? What is it like getting
Speaker 1: a leader like that back? I saiah um, you know
Speaker 1: to what your Hecken's point. I mean, he's one of
Speaker 1: the leaders, the leaders that are definitely known on this team.
Speaker 1: They think they miss his presence and anytime you can
Speaker 1: have a guy like that present in whatever capacity he
Speaker 1: can be. I'm glad that the team's allowing him to
Speaker 1: be on the sideline. Sometimes they throw guys up in
Speaker 1: the up and up the suite or in the stands uh,
Speaker 1: typically a suite here, especially here in Dallas. Uh. But
Speaker 1: you know it's it's also when they allow those guys
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, because I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a hype man. He's a hype man when he's when
Speaker 1: he's playing. He's a hype man when he's not playing.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's always good to have your boys there.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you that extra juice. But yeah, in terms
Speaker 1: of when you're when you're not playing, it's sucks. It
Speaker 1: sucks when you're when you're used to being one of
Speaker 1: the guys. And um, even if you're just a special teamer, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to be on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in, but especially when you're one of the leaders
Speaker 1: on this team, the last thing you want to be
Speaker 1: is feeling like you're just isolated to just being with
Speaker 1: Britt Brown, which is not a bad thing. Britt's awesome,
Speaker 1: but it's not where you want to be. It's not
Speaker 1: funny either, It's not funny this is this is usually
Speaker 1: a great tank week for the media, this kind of game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and obviously he's still in ir but you know, there's
Speaker 1: been games where the Cowboys have matched up against a
Speaker 1: great offense and how they gonna stop him? And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm thinking of like twenty eighteen against the Saints. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where and he he will stand up in front of
Speaker 1: the media and kind of send a message through the
Speaker 1: media about the confidence level of the defense. He's coming
Speaker 1: after you. He's always had that and that and I
Speaker 1: remember that game is particularly that was the best defensive
Speaker 1: performance in a while for the Cowboys. So, uh, it's
Speaker 1: that kind of matchup again. How do they how do
Speaker 1: they stop this Chief's offense? Man, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a tasty one. They're going need every ounce of
Speaker 1: that confidence going into this game. Cowboys in the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have combined for eight hundred and thirty five total yards
Speaker 1: per game entering the matchup, and that's the sixth most
Speaker 1: all time in the NFL, sixth most since nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: in a matchup later than Week eleven, So I mean
Speaker 1: up there with Rams and Chiefs in twenty eighteen, which
Speaker 1: we saw what that kind of game turned into, drunk
Speaker 1: Bronco's Charger, Saints and Panthers, Eagles, Patriots, all of those
Speaker 1: in twenty thirty, eleven, twenty eleven. And then it's the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Cowboys coming up this week, and this
Speaker 1: is going to be a fun one. And like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are getting back on track, and first off,
Speaker 1: I want to kind of dial it back a little
Speaker 1: bit for the Chiefs standpoint and sort of deal with
Speaker 1: what the I guess the slow start. Dealt with what
Speaker 1: made them get off to such a slow start, What
Speaker 1: were they doing wrong? And how have they since fixed that? Heckpone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think initially teams were getting pressure. It's all derived
Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl. I'm gonna I'm gonna say a word.
Speaker 1: It's triggering for you, el ravo. And that's blueprint. I think.
Speaker 1: I think teams saw in the Super Bowl that what
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes does when he gets under pressure. He you know,
Speaker 1: some of the cardinal rules of sports apply. You can't
Speaker 1: throw Layton, can't throw across your body. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: has an IQ and he's a great decision maker. But
Speaker 1: you saw at the beginning of the season, he was
Speaker 1: starting to have some location problems, and I think the
Speaker 1: pressure was starting to get to him a bit as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know, per se if there's anything that he
Speaker 1: hasn't seen defensively, so it's hard for me to imagine
Speaker 1: that he's confused by anything. I just think that some
Speaker 1: of the decisions that he made clearly pointed out. That's
Speaker 1: how you started to have those turnovers. And look, just
Speaker 1: like with any other sport, whether we always use those
Speaker 1: boxing analogies, there's a guy has not seen him admit
Speaker 1: he was a boxer back and they may not remember
Speaker 1: Ben Away. God, he would hit you anywhere except for
Speaker 1: under your feet. I mean, he was that good. But
Speaker 1: the cardinal rule of boxing is if you can't not
Speaker 1: escape a left hook, you shouldn't be boxing. Box you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be boxing. And finally somebody cracked the code. I
Speaker 1: think Tampa may have cracked the code and some of
Speaker 1: those cardinal rules of football. Can't throw late across your body.
Speaker 1: Some of the things that he's been able to get
Speaker 1: away with because of his superior athleticism. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's in decline, but some of those things are starting
Speaker 1: to catch up with him. It certainly seemed that way
Speaker 1: early on, because Patrick Mahomes had never been stood up.
Speaker 1: I mean, it had been to a point where he
Speaker 1: had never really just laid in that. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were statistics about it all the way through the early
Speaker 1: parts of his career where he hadn't thrown under a
Speaker 1: certain amount of yards, or hadn't thrown a pick here,
Speaker 1: having thrown a pick there. I mean, he was as
Speaker 1: good as anybody to start a career in the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL. But then he pitter pattered through the
Speaker 1: middle of this season. And I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: think it came from that Super Bowl and I carried over.
Speaker 1: But it's also that offensive line, right, that offensive line
Speaker 1: is not as good as what it used to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and so I have to, honestly, I have to.
Speaker 1: I'm blessed to be able to be an insider for
Speaker 1: probably another podcast platform. And we had addressed this a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks back back when they were three and
Speaker 1: four and it and I pointed directly to the office
Speaker 1: of line and officer. Line is totally brand new, totally
Speaker 1: brand new. These guys have five new guys up front. Wow,
Speaker 1: they I mean from the starting from the left side.
Speaker 1: These guys drafted Creed Humphrey. Their center drafted him this year,
Speaker 1: trace me after the right guard drafted him this year.
Speaker 1: They had a guy their last year's drafty, the right tackle,
Speaker 1: Lucas nng Uh. He was a twenty twenty draft he
Speaker 1: but he opted out of the season because of the
Speaker 1: covid Um. You got Joe Thuney that they picked up
Speaker 1: from the from the Patriots, and the Orlando Brown they
Speaker 1: picked up from the Ravens. These guys, literally all five
Speaker 1: guys are brand new. So you're expecting Patrick Mahomes to
Speaker 1: still be Patrick Mahomes with five new guys that don't
Speaker 1: have any continuity the things that we've been talking about
Speaker 1: in terms of Collins and and Terrence Steell, And we
Speaker 1: don't want to move these guys around because of those
Speaker 1: the commisit it might mess with the continuity. Imagine moving
Speaker 1: all five pieces. So that's what these guys have sustained.
Speaker 1: And I was one of the ones to stand up
Speaker 1: on the table and say it's only a matter of time.
Speaker 1: The lightships, the light switches, it's only a matter of time.
Speaker 1: Because you're putting representing teams recognize that this was a
Speaker 1: whole new front. So what are you gonna do if
Speaker 1: you're a defensive coordinator. We're lighting them up, light them up,
Speaker 1: let's bring pressure because these guys can't figure it out.
Speaker 1: They don't know how to pass up off yet they
Speaker 1: don't know how to communicate. They don't know exactly what
Speaker 1: to do. So that was the issue early on. And
Speaker 1: then Patrick Mahomes, I'm still Patrick Mahomes, So I'm still
Speaker 1: gonna get out the pocket and do the things that
Speaker 1: I do. And what does that force you to do?
Speaker 1: Start making inherrent throws, start making throws that you used
Speaker 1: to be able to make. That you just say, my
Speaker 1: guys are better than your guys, and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: make plays regardless. And guess what, sometimes there's fifty fifty
Speaker 1: balls and those fifty fifty balls went the other way.
Speaker 1: So that's what happened early on with the kanc Chiefs,
Speaker 1: And that's why these guys are so dangerous because everybody
Speaker 1: in the whole country who watches football and understands how
Speaker 1: as these guys are offensively, the weapons that they have
Speaker 1: offers a coordinator that they have the hey coach that
Speaker 1: they have and the knowledge that he has a he's
Speaker 1: a Jedi. I don't think there's any questions in regards
Speaker 1: of that. And these guys are dangerous as they continue
Speaker 1: to get better. Okay, that's all they're going to continue
Speaker 1: to do is get better every single game. As these
Speaker 1: guys continue to get familiarized with each other. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of you know, the Sunday night game against Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and obviously they went off in that game forty
Speaker 1: one points. Got back to doing what they do. There
Speaker 1: was a graphic up there about how much less Pat
Speaker 1: Mahomes is being blitzed this year compared to the past.
Speaker 1: It's like ten percent drop. The teams are playing more
Speaker 1: coverage and honestly, like that's what you're seeing with Dak
Speaker 1: to some degree, teams and we're like, look, we can't
Speaker 1: do this. He's burning us every time. And so that's
Speaker 1: that's the challenge with the great quarterbacks. So they're they're
Speaker 1: doing more of that, and they haven't gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of variants in their offense in terms of targets. You
Speaker 1: look at the targets in there. I mean, we all
Speaker 1: know about Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey. They're amazing players. But
Speaker 1: beyond that they Okay, Tyreek's got one hundred and eleven
Speaker 1: targets this year, Kelsey eighty nine. The next guy is
Speaker 1: Hardman with fifty six, a huge drop off. So you know, satically,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are the best offense in the league. But
Speaker 1: I think I think you can make the argument that
Speaker 1: although maybe there's a similar approach to trying to play
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense, Cowboys have a little more balance in
Speaker 1: terms of what they can do to counteract that. And
Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't like to run that much anyway, So
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it, and I think Isaiah
Speaker 1: just spoke to it too. I mean, Pat, there's probably
Speaker 1: some frustration there when you get played like that, you
Speaker 1: want to hit the big plays, and maybe he was
Speaker 1: forcing some things and that's where the turnovers came, and
Speaker 1: also not to mention, and added an element to their offense.
Speaker 1: Will be back this week or is expected to be back,
Speaker 1: and that's Clyde Edwards Hilaire. He had been out for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Miss since we saw like another week,
Speaker 1: what was that, he just sit out one more. Now
Speaker 1: it's not a foregone conclusion, but his practice window has
Speaker 1: started in there is a great chance quote unquote from
Speaker 1: Andy Reid that he does find the way. The reports
Speaker 1: last week that he was practicing and practicing very well.
Speaker 1: Kids ready, But basically last week they said no, not
Speaker 1: so fast this week for the care We're gonna get
Speaker 1: ready for this one. By the way, he's kind of
Speaker 1: going along the same lines of career in season success
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott having a better season at the moment than
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, but Mahomes is the career leader in passer
Speaker 1: rating at least during his time. This is the fourth
Speaker 1: time that the season leader and the career leader in
Speaker 1: passer rating have met in the same game past week
Speaker 1: eleven or entering the week since nineteen ninety. The other
Speaker 1: matchups this is a fun one Jim Harball versus Steve
Speaker 1: Young in ninety five, John Elway versus Joe Montana another
Speaker 1: Kansas City Joe Montana, uh nineteen ninety three, San Francisco
Speaker 1: Joe Montana and Phil Simms. So that was in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety So, man, there's this is This has got the
Speaker 1: feelings of an historic matchup. But instant classic, yeah, instant,
Speaker 1: and it's guys, I mean, Pat Mahomes has done so
Speaker 1: much already. But he he's ascending and we know Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's sending. That's what's that's what's fun about it. Him.
Speaker 1: Like the opener was great because it's Brady, and Brady's
Speaker 1: a legend and all that, but these are two guys
Speaker 1: that are I mean, gonna be going at it. I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't play that often, but they're going to be
Speaker 1: right at the top for years to come. That's what's
Speaker 1: cool about it. But I just want to go back
Speaker 1: to what you were saying about defenses playing coverage. I
Speaker 1: think all around the league, that's what defenses have started
Speaker 1: to do. You see more big nickel all over because
Speaker 1: teams are willing to say I'm gonna rush three, rush four,
Speaker 1: and drop everybody else back into coverage because you're you're
Speaker 1: giving up so much in the passing league by staying
Speaker 1: with conventional linebackers and not hybrid safeties that can cover
Speaker 1: out in space. And I just look, they never have,
Speaker 1: like you pointed out, they never have really have been
Speaker 1: balanced with a running game. I think Edwards a layer.
Speaker 1: I mean, him coming back doesn't doesn't unnerve me simply
Speaker 1: because I feel like our defense is playing well enough
Speaker 1: to this point that they can nullify whatever impact that
Speaker 1: he'll have on this game. For me, I just want
Speaker 1: to know how Dan Quinn schemes this up from a
Speaker 1: coverage standpoint, because if you go back to the games
Speaker 1: where the Tennessee Titans play, them just saying when they
Speaker 1: came up against some pretty good defenses that often struggle,
Speaker 1: they went into a shell of themselves. Right that Titans
Speaker 1: game specifically, I went back and watched the first half
Speaker 1: and the Titans just flat out dominated them. Not only that,
Speaker 1: go back to the Bills game and you see those
Speaker 1: games where defenses that they don't have to sacrifice by
Speaker 1: coming after him. You talk about teams blitzing Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: and that was I saw a stat against Dak about
Speaker 1: how he is rated when teams try to bliss. He's
Speaker 1: picking guys apart and stop blitz pass the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: and I think Mahomes has been since whenever going back
Speaker 1: a couple of years. But that just says talks to
Speaker 1: his IQ. Now, if you're a team that's gonna put
Speaker 1: come after him with two or three down line, and
Speaker 1: of course he's just gonna turn around and hand the
Speaker 1: ball the clods. That was Hilaire. You know, so you'll
Speaker 1: have to stay in a base to some degree. I
Speaker 1: think I just think that for our dbs, for our
Speaker 1: second there our safeties. This game is gonna be a
Speaker 1: get a big game for them because they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to play sound without question. Yeah. Yeah, these guys don't
Speaker 1: run the ball much. They don't. They're not they're not
Speaker 1: traditional in that in that way. They don't. They understand
Speaker 1: that that's not where their strength of their team is.
Speaker 1: The strength of their team is getting the ball in
Speaker 1: their playmaker's hands by any means necessary, and that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily coming back and handing the ball off. These guys
Speaker 1: run more screens than probably any team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and that's how they get their running plays exactly, that's
Speaker 1: their running place. So I know people are all, these guys,
Speaker 1: we get shut down their run. Yeah, you might better
Speaker 1: shut down to run, but these guys are gonna run
Speaker 1: screens all day long. And that's like a long handoff
Speaker 1: exactly what it is, exactly what it is. It's it's
Speaker 1: almost like, how do you define a run these days?
Speaker 1: Because the analytics, yeah, behind the screen is like yeah,
Speaker 1: I almost said geeks. Because some people don't think like
Speaker 1: you should even run the ball anymore. And I and
Speaker 1: that's I think there's value in running the ball, but
Speaker 1: I think there is value also. And if they're loading
Speaker 1: the box, it's kind of what the Cowboys did against
Speaker 1: the Bucks. It's just yeah, spread it out to the outside.
Speaker 1: They do with Tyreek Hill. I think Darryl Williams had
Speaker 1: nine catches for one hundred and one yards, so you
Speaker 1: can kind of stuff that into his run productions. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, I mean he's not even I
Speaker 1: mean I guess attribute wise, they're him and Clyde Edwards
Speaker 1: there night and day. They're night and day skill wise.
Speaker 1: So if Clyde Edwards decides to make his comeback this week,
Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure that's why he held him out
Speaker 1: last week, we can expect him to have at least
Speaker 1: five or six screens in the game, and then you
Speaker 1: have to watch him on the screens. You have to
Speaker 1: watch Tyreek Hill on the screens to Keilsy on the screens,
Speaker 1: so that again, you know, to that point, it's a
Speaker 1: long handoff. And that's what they are, perfectly or they're
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. People talking about how they don't have a
Speaker 1: run game, and that's how they get their yardage inside
Speaker 1: the box. Well, even in a blowout win against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: forty one to fourteen was the score, and Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: still hit fifty pass attempts. He still went thirty five
Speaker 1: or fifty for four hundred plus and five touchdown. They're
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball around no matter if it's a
Speaker 1: big lead. Not so much. They don't really have that
Speaker 1: salt to way tough back like a Zeke who can
Speaker 1: really kind of put it on the ground and just
Speaker 1: keep rolling all the way down the field. Now. I
Speaker 1: know Tony Pollard did that against that land of quite
Speaker 1: a bit in that second half, which is great too,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if Williams is that guy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Clyde Edwards, a layer, especially coming off
Speaker 1: an injury, is that guy. However, they're gonna spread it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna spread that thing out and they're
Speaker 1: gonna get it to their weapons, and they are all
Speaker 1: very dangerous, especially when they have a little bit of space.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing that I want to hit when
Speaker 1: we come back on the other side of the break.
Speaker 1: How much space are the Cowboys gonna give them? Because
Speaker 1: we know this already. The big play is a big
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Speaker 1: Oh man, we haven't trouble, so there you go. Um
Speaker 1: mentioned this going into the break. The big play for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensively has not really been the best calling
Speaker 1: card for the dan Quinn's defense. There have been a
Speaker 1: ton of improvements on that side of the football. The
Speaker 1: big play has not been one of those. So how
Speaker 1: do they avoid that against Kansas City? Is there are
Speaker 1: a weakness that you've seen in Kansas City's offense that
Speaker 1: can take away from the big player, maybe downgraded from there.
Speaker 1: But is there anything that hack mother stands out to
Speaker 1: you that where the Cowboys defense could try and maybe
Speaker 1: something new to try and defend Kansas City. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you talked about the targets for Hill and Kelsey. Kelsey
Speaker 1: last year had fourteen hundred yards as a tight end,
Speaker 1: and it just you know that they want to target him.
Speaker 1: I believe trying to take Kelsey away immediately is going
Speaker 1: to be one of your best options. And also with
Speaker 1: Isaiah saying about the offensive line, you know that if
Speaker 1: you can get that pressure, contain the running game, those things,
Speaker 1: those aspects to their offense, you gotta eliminate certain things.
Speaker 1: He'll man. You just pray that you know he doesn't
Speaker 1: because because he can take it to the house anytime.
Speaker 1: And we saw that it was at twenty seventeen at
Speaker 1: the end of the game on a hell Mary ball
Speaker 1: or not even really hell Mary pass, he takes it
Speaker 1: and he scores in twenty seventeen at the last minute
Speaker 1: to go into halftime. I hated that place. Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just one. It's just one of
Speaker 1: those plays that he can make it anytime, and so
Speaker 1: you gotta try and cloud this guy. Put him in
Speaker 1: a situation where you when he gets the ball you
Speaker 1: get him down immediately. You have to pick one or
Speaker 1: the other, right, I mean, you can't. You can't double
Speaker 1: both every play. And I think I think it seems
Speaker 1: like teams are taking more chances just saying we'll take
Speaker 1: our chances with Kelsey, which is no fun in its
Speaker 1: own right. But tyreek Hill is just he can run
Speaker 1: past anybody on any given play wreck the game, embarrass
Speaker 1: you with his speed. So you know, that's that's what
Speaker 1: it seems like they're doing. And Kelsey's been he hasn't
Speaker 1: had the production that he's normally had so far, but
Speaker 1: he's eating up. He broke out Sunday night though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: eating up and the Cowboys, you know, tight ends have
Speaker 1: been a challenge at times, but Jayron Curse has been
Speaker 1: a nice addition in terms of that, you know, counteracting that.
Speaker 1: And Jordan Lewis, what he was able to do against
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts was really impressive. Yeah, I mean Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: took its lumps early. I mean he was catching a
Speaker 1: couple balls in those opening drives, but then it was
Speaker 1: shut down from then on out. So I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not comparing Kyle Pitts at the moments. Travis Kelsey, but
Speaker 1: Kelsey at some point, Yeah, I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: on a similar level. I think Kyle Pitts is that
Speaker 1: type of player. But right this second, Kyle Pitts is not.
Speaker 1: Right this second, Travis Kelsey, he said, what you gotta
Speaker 1: put some weight on dah he will. Yeah, he's coming
Speaker 1: out of floor. But I got a question for you
Speaker 1: guys as far as dan Quinn is getting a lot
Speaker 1: of accolades for his defense, but then in the same breath,
Speaker 1: and I feel like this is disingenuous When people say, oh,
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense can only be effective if they have
Speaker 1: a lead. Do you feel the same way about their defense?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, Okay, they are effective when they
Speaker 1: play with the lead versus and then you give dan
Speaker 1: Quinn the kudos that he's getting right now. I just
Speaker 1: I don't think those two things go together. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's entirely fair because Minnesota showed that they can
Speaker 1: stand up and win a game for you against a
Speaker 1: pretty good team, or at least a pretty good offense.
Speaker 1: But I do think there's evidence over the for the
Speaker 1: vast majority of this season, they have had the benefits
Speaker 1: of we can tee off because we got, we got
Speaker 1: leads coming. But it all works together because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are posting all a lot of these points because they're
Speaker 1: they're tied for second and interceptions in the league. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got fourteen picks, They're right up there in terms
Speaker 1: of takeaways. They're doing their part to help the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense as well. It is kind of tied together. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's entirely fair, but but that is You're right, like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of the narrative right now, is that they're
Speaker 1: protecting the defense. You can look at two of the
Speaker 1: last three wins and say that Patriots as well. You
Speaker 1: came from behind in that game too. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you played with a lead late and then basically
Speaker 1: gave that up and went into ot But I mean
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Vikings game, I think you could
Speaker 1: take as examples of the defense playing well enough for
Speaker 1: you without a big lead. Every road game so far
Speaker 1: this year has been decided by a single score. It's
Speaker 1: been so every road game. Keep that in mind going
Speaker 1: into Arrowhead, but it's been decided by a single possession
Speaker 1: every single game so far this season on the road.
Speaker 1: That doesn't say that the Cowboys have been playing with
Speaker 1: the lead. They've only lost one of those games so
Speaker 1: and that was the first one to Tampa Bay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one thing is it's been hard to test their
Speaker 1: run defense this season. It's been very hard, and Denver
Speaker 1: was able to do it, jumped out early and it
Speaker 1: didn't go well at all. But this is a this
Speaker 1: is a totally different matchup. We just talked about how
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're not going to hand the ball
Speaker 1: off thirty times, so I guess their luck runs out.
Speaker 1: Maybe Clyde Edwards a layer coming back. Now the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were able to pass over a healthy sae Quon Barkley
Speaker 1: and a healthy Christian McCaffrey, and now they get Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards a layer. But they're gonna get a client, all right. Um,
Speaker 1: In terms of a big play, to address your question,
Speaker 1: you can't stop these guys from having big plays, but
Speaker 1: you can't limit them. That's I'm just gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and say that. It's like it's like facing freed Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: I think you're not gonna get jabbed. You can let
Speaker 1: me how many times you get jabb but you're gonna
Speaker 1: get jabbed. So they're gonna get their big plays. You
Speaker 1: have to pick your poison. So I think teams are
Speaker 1: starting to take the approach in terms of trying to
Speaker 1: find a way to double Hill some way, somehow he does.
Speaker 1: So many of his routes are across the across the field,
Speaker 1: and if you're playing man, you can't. You can't play man.
Speaker 1: He's too quick. He's too fast. He's the fastest doing
Speaker 1: the league, hands down. He's too quick. He's too fast,
Speaker 1: So you can't jam him at the line of scrammisca.
Speaker 1: He'll shake you up. If you play off, he's gonna
Speaker 1: run right by you. If you try to double him,
Speaker 1: then somebody else wins. So it's hard to stop him.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to say, hey, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: him one man on him, and I'm gonna put the
Speaker 1: far safety and the near safety. You guys both have
Speaker 1: to keep your eyes on him. So you're literally trying
Speaker 1: to have three guys stop one person. So that's why
Speaker 1: these other guys start having big games. So you're playing
Speaker 1: too safeties high. Yeah, that man, I don't. I guess
Speaker 1: you have too. He plays if you play single. Hi,
Speaker 1: I understand this through film, saying you watch film too,
Speaker 1: you can't guard him. Man, No, no, it's impossible. And
Speaker 1: if you play zone, if you play a single high zone,
Speaker 1: he's just gonna run across the field to the gap
Speaker 1: over the other corner. Right. So essentially the blueprint is
Speaker 1: that two safeties high and instead of going man, you're
Speaker 1: passing them off. You oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have you have to pass them off and you have
Speaker 1: to to your point the game, Tennessee. What Tennessee did
Speaker 1: so well against these guys was get hands on guys
Speaker 1: as they crossed their zone. They were physical with him.
Speaker 1: Get my hands on you. You're gonna run by me,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna push the crap out of you or
Speaker 1: your jam you up a little bit, just to knock
Speaker 1: you off just a little bit as you go into
Speaker 1: the next zone. And then guess what our communication has
Speaker 1: to be such that the next zone that you're going to,
Speaker 1: my guy needs to be on his piece and Ques
Speaker 1: and be ready. We need our guys up front, four
Speaker 1: guys up front to try to get home as much
Speaker 1: as possible. It sucks that Gregory, it sucks Thatt d
Speaker 1: laws out, but we've been able to generate pressure without it.
Speaker 1: But our four guys are going to have to try
Speaker 1: to get home because these guys don't like to accept
Speaker 1: the fact that he that his guys are covered. He
Speaker 1: hates it. That's what's got him in trouble this year.
Speaker 1: A lot of those miraculous what the things that make
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes great are the same things that make him
Speaker 1: turn over. You know, you pretty turnover prone. So those
Speaker 1: great plays or throws across across the formation, across the coverage,
Speaker 1: all those kind of things, those become jump balls. And
Speaker 1: as long as you have guys that are being physical,
Speaker 1: and as long as you have guys that are staying
Speaker 1: in their hip pockets and you're like a pinball going
Speaker 1: down the field, those opportunities will present themselves. But just understand,
Speaker 1: your character has to be such that you have to
Speaker 1: be able to bounce back and put the last play
Speaker 1: away because they're going to get their big plays. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen the same way the week at our big places.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen on both sides. Two things to play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate to what you just said. One too high.
Speaker 1: Safety is something that a lot of defense have done
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys this year, right and in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense to their demise because the Cowboys have picked them
Speaker 1: apart because of the weapons, because of the options and
Speaker 1: the balance in terms of their games. They'll just turn in,
Speaker 1: hand it off and pound you with Zeke and Tony exactly.
Speaker 1: We have that option. Yeah, I don't know if Kansas
Speaker 1: City has the extent of that option, but I think
Speaker 1: they have an option to do that as well, especially
Speaker 1: with as bad as the Cowboys run defense has been
Speaker 1: at times this year. Because you think about it both ways.
Speaker 1: Sure it's not Zeke, it's not Pollard, but Edwards, Hilaire
Speaker 1: and Williams can still run the football efficiently. I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw what Denver did. Melvin Gordon and Javante Williams
Speaker 1: can run the ball efficiently as well, so too high safety.
Speaker 1: It definitely concerns me if there's those options as a
Speaker 1: whole from an offense. Secondly, you mentioned being physical. Has
Speaker 1: there been a consistency of physicality on this Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: this year, because I don't know if there has been.
Speaker 1: We've seen moments Denver, for instance, where there's people sent
Speaker 1: standing in the gap, hesitant to be physical at the
Speaker 1: point of attack. So are those two things that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense can afford to whiff on because I feel
Speaker 1: like if they whiff on, no, yeah, WHI no, not
Speaker 1: an option this week. So let's go ahead and say
Speaker 1: that right now. I don't know where I saw it.
Speaker 1: I was actually meant to send it to you guys.
Speaker 1: Yesterday there was a highlight. Somebody put together a highlight.
Speaker 1: I think it was just the NFL sounds of the
Speaker 1: game for Tyreek Hill and it was them just following
Speaker 1: him around and his releases. He just excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 1: He's literally just saying excuse me. He's saying excuse me
Speaker 1: every single time he's killing guys off the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: and he's laughing about it, right him and the DV
Speaker 1: you are laughing about it. And if the ball doesn't
Speaker 1: come his waysycha, Andrew Luck saying thank you whenever he
Speaker 1: gets good job, whenever he get hit. But I mean,
Speaker 1: so you can't whip. You have to these guys have
Speaker 1: to be intent on making sure that everything in practice
Speaker 1: this week is hands on, all our dbs, hands on
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, getting these guys freaking get a jam. Right.
Speaker 1: If you don't get a jam, the next man gets
Speaker 1: a jam. Bump him off as straight because he's gonna
Speaker 1: run across. He's like a little little pinball where he
Speaker 1: literally just weave his way through. And as long as
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahome has time back there, he will sit there
Speaker 1: and hold the ball and wait. If you play zone,
Speaker 1: if you play too high right, he if he has time,
Speaker 1: he will literally just run across from one zone to
Speaker 1: the second zone to the third zone, all the way
Speaker 1: across the field out the back end. He's coming out
Speaker 1: the back shoot right. Or if you try to go
Speaker 1: single high now you're trying to pass stuff off. You're
Speaker 1: taking the attention of that one safety and saying when
Speaker 1: he crosses the field, try to cut him off. Well
Speaker 1: then what Now? You got these other guys that are
Speaker 1: getting free. So it's going It's going to happen, but
Speaker 1: you have to limit it. And I think the only
Speaker 1: way that you could limit it is by being physical
Speaker 1: and staying in the hip pocket. Whenever the ball is
Speaker 1: in the air, they're gonna get their catches, but they
Speaker 1: better be contested because if you allow these guys to
Speaker 1: get the confidence to just catch the balls freely, or
Speaker 1: trying to play cover three and play saft or cover
Speaker 1: four and play soft it's gonna be a long day.
Speaker 1: And you're saying, hip pocket, that's just closing, closing that hill. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but I like what you what you're saying and
Speaker 1: playing the devil's advocate in this in this situation is
Speaker 1: good because you saw what Denver did versus us, and
Speaker 1: they were effective in that they were passing off CD,
Speaker 1: they were plassing off of Mary. But again, those guys
Speaker 1: were not healthy. We saw that and it bolded well
Speaker 1: for you. But then the next opponent steps up and
Speaker 1: tries to do that, they burn them the same thing
Speaker 1: that the difference is and you pointed out it's our
Speaker 1: running game. I mean, I guess on paper right now,
Speaker 1: I can see Dan Quinn going with four guys, one
Speaker 1: linebacker and six dvs because he has the safeties, he
Speaker 1: has the DV. So I'm sure, uh, Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 1: gonna play damn near the whole game. Obviously, we know
Speaker 1: Javon Jon Curse is gonna play the entire game. But
Speaker 1: that's the only approach that you can take. And I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna switch it up too. They're gonna switch
Speaker 1: it up as the Chiefs play a lot of trips
Speaker 1: formation and those screens that you're talking about. You go
Speaker 1: round a guys step back and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: Terik Hill takes the ball and you're still there bumping
Speaker 1: them off of the line scrimmage. Being physical at the
Speaker 1: line scrimmage is going to be important. Now what does
Speaker 1: that also get you if you with He said, so
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a big time gamble is
Speaker 1: The other thing they'll do, too, is to try to
Speaker 1: get Kelsey and they'll line him up right next to
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and like we just talked about it, he
Speaker 1: draws so much attention. Now Kelsey's free and can kind
Speaker 1: of win his matchup that way. Um, there was a
Speaker 1: staff from CBS. I think that Cover two and Cover
Speaker 1: four have been the most popular coverages against the four.
Speaker 1: Reason you can't you really can't do anything else because
Speaker 1: of that speed element. But to your question, I do
Speaker 1: think I don't think physicality has been a problem for
Speaker 1: this defense this season. Actually, I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: been their calling card. You only pointed out one game
Speaker 1: though I did, And yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: but they can't. You guys are like they can't miss tackles.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they had fourteen miss tackles against Denver.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn said, it was like three or four last
Speaker 1: Week's so much better, so much more sound, and so
Speaker 1: much more physical. This has to be the most physical game,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I don't think that more so
Speaker 1: than New England. Oh yeah. And the reason why Tennessee
Speaker 1: just disrespected Can City like that, not only because of
Speaker 1: the pressure, not only because of the bad decisions by Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but they hit the crap out of you. They wipe
Speaker 1: their faces. That's the thing. What's what's what's the culture
Speaker 1: of the what's their identity in Tennessee physical. We're gonna
Speaker 1: outfield will on both sides of anybody that plays Tennessee.
Speaker 1: You know you're you're coming out beat up right, You're
Speaker 1: going old Rabel right, You're gonna get beat The craps
Speaker 1: are gonna get beat out of you. Offensively, defensively, special teams.
Speaker 1: We're hitting you in the mouth. If we don't do
Speaker 1: anything else, you're gonna leave Buddy, bloody and Bruce. That
Speaker 1: has to be our approach because Kansas City doesn't like that.
Speaker 1: These is like the almost I almost use the fraternity.
Speaker 1: It's like the capitals of the fraternity. He's like these
Speaker 1: like these are like the pretty boys, right, these are
Speaker 1: the pretty boys of the wie. Now they're they're nice
Speaker 1: and then they're cleaning. They can make plays, but they
Speaker 1: don't want to get hit. They don't want to get hit.
Speaker 1: Are you in a frat? I'm not fra Hey, you
Speaker 1: just called the caps the pretty boy pretty boy around
Speaker 1: mirrors everything else. You call the soft soft piece pretty boys.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's que days, so they are real. Okay,
Speaker 1: se counters day today, my boys spice. Let me know
Speaker 1: that this morning. But no, I mean, but you want
Speaker 1: to hit these guys. I don't think outside of the
Speaker 1: Tennessee game, they haven't been hit, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they like it. I really don't think they like it.
Speaker 1: I don't think they respond well to it. So our
Speaker 1: guys need to flop. Donovan Wilson, strap them up, curse,
Speaker 1: strap them up, right, Kayze, don't do what you did
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Strap them up. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need everybody out there strapped up flat, Mica, this is
Speaker 1: your time to freaking unleash it. Dude, put your juggernai
Speaker 1: helmet on and run through somebody's soul, vander Ash, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen a wolf call all year. I've seen one
Speaker 1: wolf call that was after Jalen left. I need the
Speaker 1: wolf call out because we need all two hundred fifty
Speaker 1: pounds you running through somebody's chest cavity of this game.
Speaker 1: We have to outphysical these boys to make them second
Speaker 1: guess anything quick underneath coming at you. That is all right,
Speaker 1: And defensive line wise, it's where it's gonna start. Up front.
Speaker 1: We have got to apply that pressure and we've got
Speaker 1: we've got to relegate. Have our four guys up front
Speaker 1: or however we're gonna switch this up three four guys
Speaker 1: up front. Well, we gotta get physical. We we've got
Speaker 1: to get penetration, and we've got to get home. But
Speaker 1: you point out Micah Micael can be a big difference
Speaker 1: maker in this game. Yeah, good through somebody's soul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. I want to take that and make
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Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. All right, let's take our second
Speaker 1: break when we come back. How does Dallas get pressure
Speaker 1: with this offensive line from Kansas City. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: All right, real quickly before we wrap things up, Kansas
Speaker 1: City tackles in one words, one word from each of you.
Speaker 1: Offensive tackles for Kansas City have been trash. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I would probably go a little bit under. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'd probably say not adequate. But actually, I mean Isaiah
Speaker 1: mentioned there're two rookies on the interior. They've been part
Speaker 1: of the strength of their line, and they've had injuries
Speaker 1: on the tackle spot too, like Rimors has been out right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean look going back to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: like Heck mentioned like that's it's been a problem. You know.
Speaker 1: Tray Smith out of Tennessee, he's playing the right guard spot.
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey, who was one of the more touted interior
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in front of last raft out of OUH
Speaker 1: is playing the center spot, and he's been actually really
Speaker 1: good and oh Brown, I got veterans on the incaps,
Speaker 1: but but they haven't been great though, well not in
Speaker 1: day on one incap. The Kyle Long is out. Still
Speaker 1: exactly that was I think that was their game plan initially,
Speaker 1: Let's get some young guys on the inside or obviously
Speaker 1: except for the guard from New England, or some bets
Speaker 1: on the outside. And yeah, and Kyle Long has been
Speaker 1: on the pup list for quite some time now. He's
Speaker 1: expected to return soon, but still no word on whether
Speaker 1: or not it'll be this week or not. So without
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, without DeMarcus Lawrence again, how does how did
Speaker 1: the Cowboys generate some pressure? I'm gonna start with Isaiah
Speaker 1: on this one because I feel like we have something coming. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I'm in agreeance with the Heckma train in terms of
Speaker 1: putting Parsons on the wait a minute, hey, for this game,
Speaker 1: but for this game reason being, reason being, this guy,
Speaker 1: out of any quarterback that we've faced so far this year,
Speaker 1: can hurt you the most if he gets outside the
Speaker 1: pocket and you don't have somebody running after him, Our
Speaker 1: defensive alignment won't catch him. We have some really athletic
Speaker 1: defensive alignment. Our current guys that are playing won't catch him,
Speaker 1: so you need somebody that's gonna put some heat on him.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not like getting hit. He does not
Speaker 1: and he does not do a great job of ball security.
Speaker 1: We've seen that this year. He runs with the ball
Speaker 1: in one hand. He's all kinds of He's not worried
Speaker 1: about ball secured. He's worried about the big play down
Speaker 1: the field. And that's why I think if you have
Speaker 1: a two hundred and forties plus pounder, a guy who
Speaker 1: runs a four to three chasing after him, he can
Speaker 1: cause him some issues and give us the opportunities if
Speaker 1: Parsons hits him, chance for a fumble, if Parson puts
Speaker 1: pressure on him like we like we know he could,
Speaker 1: then we get those opportunities down the field for those
Speaker 1: in errand throws that Patrick Mahomes has likes that he
Speaker 1: likes to make because he likes those fifty fifty balls.
Speaker 1: He thinks his guys are just that much better than
Speaker 1: the defenders. Damn sure does. So you're on board. Obviously,
Speaker 1: no surprise there. Wouldn't that be funny if Heckman was like,
Speaker 1: you know, but I think he's better as a linebacker. Well,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean the thing is, because of their
Speaker 1: lack of a run identity, you don't need a true
Speaker 1: just linebacker in this In this game, you need people
Speaker 1: to get pressure and you need dbs. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I really like the way that he had a head
Speaker 1: esteem though against Atlanta, and we're able to kind of
Speaker 1: kind of control that edge a little bit more coming
Speaker 1: from the second level, more so than I think he
Speaker 1: had done previously in that specific mindset. If they brought
Speaker 1: him on a blitz on multiple occasions, I think that
Speaker 1: could work as well. I do as well. However, majority
Speaker 1: of the day, right think about let's just go ahead
Speaker 1: and just say that Kensey's gonna have sixty snaps. It's
Speaker 1: safe to say that kensa City has sixty snaps. Of
Speaker 1: those sixty snaps, how many times will he really affect
Speaker 1: this game at that level, They're not running a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff within that five yard range. Well, and that's
Speaker 1: what dan Quinn mentioned when he was asked about UH
Speaker 1: to the effect of he's generating a ton of pressure.
Speaker 1: How do you fee you feel encouraged that using him
Speaker 1: the right way? You guys know, how much I loved
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn Press conversation said, what an awesome question. I
Speaker 1: guess that's saying you're doing a good job Dan, or
Speaker 1: you're a dumb ass. But he said, he pointed out
Speaker 1: that you know he's going vertical a lot from the
Speaker 1: linebacker position as well. But you guys points well taken
Speaker 1: like this is a matchup where you have to get
Speaker 1: to Pat Mahomes. In the conversation, I'm gonna steal this
Speaker 1: directly from Nick Eatman, and he said, man, I want
Speaker 1: to use I want to use Michael Parsons like they
Speaker 1: used Troy Paulamalo. And I don't see nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: You know, just a guy that you line up everywhere
Speaker 1: and you know he can be effective from anywhere on
Speaker 1: the field. Last week against Atlanta, the one rush where
Speaker 1: he went he even tweeted Almari Cooper, I told you
Speaker 1: my dead leg was better than your, you know, and
Speaker 1: he would then and the guy didn't even put a
Speaker 1: hand on him. That's just the kind of speed, the
Speaker 1: athleticism that he presents from the from the from the edge,
Speaker 1: and even when he takes a bad angle, you see
Speaker 1: the speed that he could do to still get to
Speaker 1: the outside and not give up contain. He's just a
Speaker 1: special guy. And coming up against a player like Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: I see him different. I see him as a quarterback
Speaker 1: that can extend plays with his legs. No, he does
Speaker 1: not want to get touched, but he can extend plays
Speaker 1: with his legs, and they go to that scrambled drill
Speaker 1: and that's where he will make a mistake if you're
Speaker 1: touching him already, right, and so he's gonna try and
Speaker 1: extend to play, get something across his body. And that's
Speaker 1: where he was nightmarish at the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: trying to do this and also just looking at the
Speaker 1: role that they're getting on. Look at the games that
Speaker 1: they've played, look at the teams that they've beat, so
Speaker 1: a lot of that maybe fools gold up until this point.
Speaker 1: And I believe that this Dallas defense, which has been
Speaker 1: underappreciated to a certain degree, can actually put their stamp
Speaker 1: on this game. And that be the reminder because we
Speaker 1: hadn't seen an offense like this since Tampa as far
Speaker 1: as the weapons that they have, but we hadn't seen
Speaker 1: a team move formations like this either since Minnesota or
Speaker 1: maybe against the Patriots where they They're doing so many
Speaker 1: different things out of different formations. So look, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be a chess match, and Dan Quinn is worth
Speaker 1: this salt. You're gonna see it this week. I agree
Speaker 1: with you on the teams and the potential fools gold
Speaker 1: for Kansas City. We'll talk about that a little bit
Speaker 1: more on Friday. But their last two wins have been
Speaker 1: really impressive against against Green Bay and then against the
Speaker 1: Race green Bay without Oh that's right, it was without
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodd. Come on, come, okay, that's right. I forgot
Speaker 1: about that point point. We're gonna talk about that on Friday.
Speaker 1: But tomorrow we preview the Cowboys offense. Sir, I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense could have another big day. I've been
Speaker 1: looking at this Kansas City defense and I think the holes, man,
Speaker 1: I think there's some holes. We're gonna talk about it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I hope you had fun on this one. Lots of
Speaker 1: excitement around this matchup heading into Sunday. But for Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Isaiah Daanback, heck Ma Harris, and I'm Kyle
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