1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: It is groundhog Day. Bucks to Tony Phil one of 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: the great movies ever been made. Groundhog Day with Bill 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Murray is Bill Murray's best movie. You think Ghostbusters one 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: is Bill Murray's best movie in terms of just watching 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: over and over again, and obviously it's the conceit of 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the movie. Groundhog Day is really good. I was laughing 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: this morning and our staff looked it up. Bill de 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Blasio was an awful mayor. But there are lots of 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: different groundhogs all over the country. Actually, evidently I didn't 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: know this. Georgia has their own groundhog and he lives 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: in like this is funny and ridiculous. He lives in 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: like a plantation style house and his name is Beauregard Lee, 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: named after obviously two different Confederate generals, which is really 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: funny and like it. Evidently it was trending on Twitter 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: today as people became aware that Georgia has their own 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: groundhog named Beauregard Lee, and Beauregard Lee said that they're 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: not going to have much longer of a winter, which 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: is a good one for the Southerners out there that 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: are dealing with ice, including the Nashville area where I live. 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: We got ice everywhere. Uh, but mayor build a blasio. 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, he was trying to hold up the 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: groundhog and he accidentally dropped it and the groundhog died. 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: This is this is I thought he heard it. Yeah, 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: he's a groundhog murderer. Yet the groundhog died a few 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: days later after the after the fall. I don't know 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: if they had to put him in like ICU or 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: what it was, but this is this is funny stats. 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: So Staten Island, we appreciate everybody listening out there on 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Staten Island. You say you played in the New York area. 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: The Staten Island represents Clay and buck Strong got a 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: lot of our people island, a ton of you listening 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: out in Staten Island right now. They had to change 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the policy to no longer allow anyone else to pick 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: up the groundhog. After the desio killed the groundhogs. It's 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: the rule. It's like, it's like, don't pick up my 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: groundhog or try to touch my dog, because you know, 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: no animals like you so Staten Island, Chuck, it was 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: actually Charlotte was the one that he dropped, and so 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: they redid it. And now the mayor is not allowed 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: to lift the groundhog anymore. But so it's Groundhog Day. 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Depending on the part of the country that you live in, 44 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: you either got six weeks more of winter or it's 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: going to be over sooner. You could gamble on this. Uh. 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Evidently out there too, so different groundhogs giving us different 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: forecasts going forward. But as I was, as I was 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: thinking about how crazy it is that de Blasio killed 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the groundhog, I also was thinking about how crazy it is. 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Did you know Buck that Stephen Colbert's audience still is 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: wearing masks? And he did a joke the other day saying, hey, 52 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Biden says, COVID's gonna be over May eleventh, and then 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: he cut to his crowd. And if you haven't seen 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: this video, I tweeted it out at Clay Travis. We'll 55 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: put it up on Clay and Buck as well. Entire 56 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: crowd of woke white people all wearing masks in Stephen 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: Colbert's show, and I believe the View, which is the 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: dumbest show on television, they still require their studio audiences 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: to be wearing masks too. And the reason why I 60 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up was they had a brand new, 61 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: massive study on whether masks work and it involved six 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: hundred thousand different people. I do have the details of 63 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: all this. It's really a study of studies. You know 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: how you can invest in a fund of fund where 65 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you're putting money in, and it's putting money in all 66 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: these different funds. This was research group of international doctors 67 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: who looked at seventy eight different masks studies. This is 68 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: the peer reviewed Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. And let 69 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: me tell you. You tell a lady that you work 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: for the Cochrane Database of Systematic review you're getting a 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: phone number at the bar, my friends. That's exciting stuff. 72 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: It is a lady killer that job. But they looked 73 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: at this and what they found, well, you can tell 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: everybody the results. But they looked at seventy eight studies 75 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: randomized control trial studies so RCT studies, which are the 76 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: most rigorous hypotheses, are our most rigorous method of testing hypothesis, 77 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and they found that masks have virtually no impact. And 78 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out. You can read 79 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: some of this study. Ian Miller has he's at ian MSc. 80 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: I found him on Twitter, had never met him before. 81 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: He puts up some of the greatest graphics on how 82 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: much masks fail. And he has done tremendous work on this, 83 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: and I started. I found him during COVID buck and 84 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, for instance, he would compare Orange County. We 85 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of listeners out in the LA area. 86 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Orange County had relatively lax mask standards compared to LA County. 87 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: They're side by side counties out there, and there was 88 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: virtually no statistical difference. Right. In fact, Orange County actually 89 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: had a lower incidence of COVID than LA County where 90 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: I live Nashville. Davidson County had a very stringent mask requirement. 91 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Williamson County, which is the Franklin Brentwood area for those 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: of you who know Nashville, had very lax masking standards, 93 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: no difference at all in the schools in terms of 94 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: the amount of COVID. So the data has overwhelmingly reflected 95 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: if this doesn't work. And so when I look and 96 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I see that video, that shot of the Colbar audience, 97 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: all of those people right now if they heard this 98 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: radio show be thinking, Oh, look at all those stupid 99 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: redneck Donald Trump voters not wearing masks, not getting the 100 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: COVID shot. And yet they are the ones who are 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: anti science. They are the sheep who support whatever the 102 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: new new thing is that their government tells them they 103 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: need to. And it was an interesting little metaphor to 104 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: me buck of the destruction of comedy, because Colbert's joke 105 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: basically was COVID's not over. Hahaha. Look at how my 106 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: audience is still wearing masks. But Colbert's show's not funny. 107 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: But it's also now really sad because if you're wearing 108 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: a mask in twenty twenty three to watch a comedy show, 109 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: you are fundamentally broken in your brain, and it's like 110 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: you're so committed to the falsehood that you bought into 111 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: that you can't acknowledge what reality reflects. You know, Clay, 112 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: There's there's a book called Breath that I think is 113 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: very interesting just about how we can't we've we've sort 114 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: of lost an understanding of how important breathing really is, 115 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: meaning the depth of your breathing through your nose or 116 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: through your mouth, it affects how you sleep at night. 117 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: It affects your anxiety level, it affects your mentality. How 118 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: you breathe and what you're breathing, but specifically how you 119 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: breathe is really really important for overall wellness and health. 120 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Anybody who understands you can do this yourself. You're really stressed, 121 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: take take ten deep breaths. And I know it sounds 122 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: very kind of new Age, like I'm sitting here hitting 123 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of wind chimes or something. No, no, it's science. 124 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: It actually is science. And they just just on that alone, 125 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: this pretense that masking up never had any there was 126 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: never any downs like, oh, it's not a big deal, 127 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: and actually's a really big deal. It's very uncomfortable, it 128 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: raises anxiety levels. It is effectively psychological torture in slow 129 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: motion for anybody who realizes how stupid it is. And 130 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, they also just were talking about studies. Study 131 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: just came out earlier this week that mask long. You 132 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: know that mask wearing This was an a journal nature 133 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: that it worsens dry eye, which doesn't sound like that 134 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: that big a deal until you realize for some people, 135 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: dry eye is really painful, and so wearing a mask 136 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: all the time, if you were a dry eye sufferer, 137 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: was making your eyes worse. It didn't keep you safe 138 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: from COVID at all, raise your anxiety level and gave 139 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: you more eye pain than you would have otherwise had. 140 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: And they pretended the whole time like, oh, it's fun 141 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: just weird, Clay, I mean, you know, it's funny. Actually 142 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I spoke to Leilani Doubting, who got you know, the 143 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: Daily Mail went after her. This is on the Clay 144 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: and Buck feed. We did a deep dive podcast there 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: is that you know, hit pieces on her because she 146 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: was a mask and vax and lockdown skeptic, just a 147 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: British celebrity. But who was like, I think this stuff 148 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: is dumb. She was totally totally right. But even she 149 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: said this double masking thing that was going on for 150 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: a while in America, they didn't really do that in 151 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: the UK, even like the double masking thing was a 152 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: pretty uniquely American psychosis on the world stage, and it 153 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: was because the only reason they went to that was 154 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: because the single masking was so obviously a failure, so 155 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: they just created How many years do you think it 156 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: would take for people who have been committed to masking 157 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: to acknowledge, Hey, yeah, that really didn't matter. Or are 158 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: they so committed to masking that many of these people 159 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: are going to wear masks for the rest of their 160 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: lives when they are out in I mean, I genuinely 161 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: think some of these people have become so committed to 162 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: the idea it's such a part of their personality. So 163 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I think the thing that it reminds me of is, 164 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, when there's sometimes after there's a mass shooting 165 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: or some incident with a gun that gets a lot 166 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: of attention in the press, and you will see people 167 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: and they'll make videos of themselves. They'll be like, well, 168 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to fight gun violence by taking this AR 169 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: fifteen and sawing it in half or something, you know, 170 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: as if that does anything. But their theory is if 171 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: it saves just once. The first of all, it's your 172 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: guns that just don't shoot anybody that you know, but 173 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: second of all, the if it saves one life delusion 174 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: that people create for themselves like, theoretically, this could do 175 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: some good, so I'm going to do I think that's 176 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: where what masking has turned into for people that they're 177 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: willing to go through. It's a virtue symbol and obviously 178 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: a symbol of democrat allegiance, but if you're willing to 179 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: go through the discomfort and the inconvenience of it on 180 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: the theory that if you mask up for twenty years, 181 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: maybe you'll prevent one COVID infection and one life will 182 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: be saved. And that's the way they justify it themselves, 183 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: which is which is just crazy, And we're thinking you 184 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: can do that with anything. Can you image? Imagine what 185 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,479 Speaker 1: our reaction would be when I saw the Colbar audience 186 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: all wearing you know, when he spun the camera to 187 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the audience and saw them and I saw them all 188 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: wearing masks. Still my jaw dropped, and I had this 189 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: sort of this can't be real thought process. And then 190 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: I went and I looked and on the Colbert Show, 191 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, they give out free tickets. I used to 192 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: be a huge David Letterman. I lived across the street 193 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: from the show us see them every day, literally every 194 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: day in line going into the studio. So I went 195 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: to go see David Letterman, you know, twenty years ago, 196 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: probably more or whenever he was doing the show in 197 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: the same studio. I loved watching David Letterman. I think 198 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: we've had this argument before you were not a letterman guy. 199 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: But it was such a cool experience to get to 200 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: go watch that show film, to get to sit in 201 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: a studio audience. And I would imagine that a lot 202 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: of the people out there that are listening to us 203 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: right now have been to New York City, and maybe 204 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: as a part of New York City you were like, oh, 205 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: I want to go watch you know, a show that's 206 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: filmed live. That would be a cool thing to do, 207 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: right I cannot imagine if I were in line, and 208 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I would think I was being pranked, and not that 209 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I want to go to the colbe Air show anyway. 210 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: But do these people really not recognize how ridiculous it 211 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: is that they're putting masks on the same thing in 212 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: the view audience. Are they so conditioned to expecting that 213 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: that's normal, or in the back of their minds are 214 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: they like, yeah, this is ridiculous that we're doing this. 215 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, there also were there were social distancing kind 216 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: of helper people who out because I lived right right 217 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: across the street from the Colbert Show, and also there's 218 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: Broadway theaters right there. I mean, that's that's been that 219 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: was my neighborhood for years. You could see that there 220 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: were social distancing clay outdoors for people before they would 221 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: go inside, where they would all sit in close quarters 222 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: for two hours. And they did this and it actually 223 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit if you've ever seen the movies. 224 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, in the show Succession, which is very well 225 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: done show on television, dark for sure, but very well 226 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: done for what it is, and very political in a 227 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: certain way that annoys me. But it's whatever. I put 228 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: that aside. I think it's but do you remember bor 229 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: on the Floor? Oh yeah, Boor on the Floor was 230 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: the patriarch of the family in the show Succession. I 231 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: think it's a bunch of his underlings. He basically just 232 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: makes them all crawl around. He gets drunk and makes 233 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: them all crawl around on the ground and snort like 234 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Piggy's basically right, like that's that's the game that he 235 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: makes them play, and it's completely insane. And the showrunner 236 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I remembered an interview the showrunner was describing how that 237 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,359 Speaker 1: was inspired by what Stalin used to do to his underlings, 238 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: because Stalin would get Stalin's fascinating, I mean, a true psychopath, 239 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: but also incredibly powerful and an amazing story, you know, 240 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: terrifying story. At the same time, Stalin would get his 241 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: underlings really drunk and try to get into their confidence 242 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: and then get them to say something they weren't supposed 243 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: to say, and then sending the firing squad like this 244 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: was one of the games. He's like, it's like, it's cool, 245 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: you could tell me, but he said he was he 246 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: was inspired by that sort of sadism from Stalin that 247 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: he would that's I mean, masking up and making people stand, 248 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, in distances outside. It was bore on the floor, folks. 249 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: It was what can I get away with making all 250 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: you idiots? Due to show you that I control you? Honestly, 251 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: it was mass psychosis. How about the fact that you 252 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: had to go to grocery stores and kind of had 253 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: to go up and down the aisle in only one direction. 254 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, as if that were somehow going to make 255 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: you safer and and I just remember people were so 256 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: mad at me and you not. Obviously our audiences which grew, 257 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, enormously during this period because we were two 258 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: of the first and no one denies us. We were 259 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: two of the earliest people in our respective spheres in 260 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: media to be like this is crazy. I mean, this 261 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: is this is bonkersville. What are people doing here? People 262 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: got so angry for others telling them what was so obvious. 263 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: It was a real lesson in human nature and human 264 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: psychology and mass psychology. And we haven't come to grips 265 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: with it as a country at all. There haven't been 266 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: any reckonings or any consequences. Really, it really has gone 267 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: like we're just supposed to move past this, and I 268 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: refuse to because you have to root out the mentality 269 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: that took hold, because it'll take hold again with something 270 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: else if we don't confront this. It's just a monster 271 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: lurking in the shadows. 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Welcome 338 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show joined now by 339 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine. Her book Laptop from Hell laid out what 340 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: we now know. Even Hunter Biden himself is acknowledging it 341 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: was in fact his actual laptopping. Here a long form 342 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: discussion with her. She was fantastic in the podcast feed. 343 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: If you go subscribe to Clay and Buck. Miranda appreciate 344 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: the time. I want to play for you. Joe Biden 345 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: addressing this in the October twenty twenty presidential debate with 346 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Let's listen, there are fifty former national intelligence 347 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: folks who said that what this he's accusing me of 348 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: is a Russian plan. They have said that this has 349 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: all the four five former heads of the CIA, both 350 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: parties say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. 351 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: Nobody believes to accept them. His and his good friend 352 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: Rudy Johnny Okay, Miranda divine all of a sudden, Hunter 353 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Biden's new legal strategy is, Yeah, the laptop is real. 354 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: I need to sue everybody who's been sharing it. What's 355 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: your reaction to this, and also Joe Biden and what 356 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: he said back in the debates. Well, look first, to 357 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the fact is that Hunter Biden's really just 358 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: a side show. He is not the important person. He's 359 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: just a sort of sorry, washed up former drug addict. 360 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: And the real object of the Republican investigations and the 361 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: concern of the American people of that where the national 362 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: security has been compromised is Joe Biden. And you heard 363 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: him there lying on stage at the debate. Just for 364 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: three weeks before the twenty twenty election. He knew that 365 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: was his son's laptop. Hunter had dropped that laptop off 366 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: and left it behind in Delaware in April of twenty nineteen, 367 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks before his father announced his candidacy. 368 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: It was a major problem for the Biden campaign. Joe 369 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Biden knew that, and he was lying. And of course 370 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: that later by the fifth one dishonest former intelligence officials, 371 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: including five former CIA directors or acting directors, that was 372 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: specifically cooked up to get Joe Biden off the hook 373 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: in that debate that was coming up in the last 374 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: few days of the election campaign. It was cooked up 375 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: five days after our story came out on October fourteen, 376 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: and it used sort of tricky language, but it said 377 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: that the laptop had all the earmarks of a Russian 378 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: information operation, and everybody heard that. They intended everybody to 379 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: hear that, as that the laptop was not to be trusted. 380 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: It was Russian disinformation or, as Joe Biden said, a 381 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Russian plant, complete garbage. And that's how the rest of 382 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: the media treated it. They didn't do the proper due 383 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: diligence that was needed on Joe Biden to unravel his 384 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: family's corrupt influence peddling scheme with countries over sees like 385 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: China and Ukraine and Russia that we're paying him his 386 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: family millions and millions of dollars. Miranda, you know this 387 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: taking the lawyers on board here and the new strategy 388 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: it seems from Hunter Biden of I want investigations, criminal 389 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: investigations into Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon and whomever. What 390 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: do you think the play is here? I man Clay 391 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: and I started off the show trying to get into 392 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: what he could possibly think will be achieved by this 393 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: or what the maneuver is all about. I mean, I 394 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you have one in mind or several, 395 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: but we're just trying to figure out what does he 396 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: think this would accomplish. Look, I think it's two things. 397 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: One is that it sort of takes the heat off 398 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden because if you notice the same. You know, 399 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: there are dark money donors who have funded these multimillion 400 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: dollar groups that have been put in place. David Brock 401 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: runs one called Facts First that specifically there to defend 402 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: the Biden family against congressional investigations and to go after 403 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: people who Hunter believes have done him wrong. And so 404 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: these very expensive lawyers who are writing these letters have 405 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: been co opted into this sort of offensive political campaign. 406 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: And although you know it would be wise, as several 407 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: lawyers have said, several ethics experts have said, for the 408 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: White House to remain aloof from this crazy operation that 409 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Hunter and his sugar brother, the entertainment lawyer Kevin Morris, 410 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: are running out of Malibu, because you know, we don't 411 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: know who those donors are, and if Joe Biden is 412 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: benefiting from that, then that's a real ethical problem. Not 413 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: that he really cares about that, but it really just 414 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: causes the White House a headaches. But you're seeing this 415 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: concerted briefing to favored reporters at the Washington Post and 416 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: the New York Times, the usual suspects, and they just 417 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: run the sort of bogus narratives that's being cooked up 418 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: in Malibu. So we're sitting Now you mentioned the FBI 419 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: has had this laptop since I believe December of twenty nineteen, 420 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: so twenty twenty one, twenty two, we're into three years 421 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: in change that they've had this laptop. Now Hunter's got 422 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: brand new, brand new lawyers. By the way, have they 423 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: reached out to you directly? Have you heard anything from 424 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: any of the new Hunter lawyers about about you being 425 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: in danger or legal peril because of what you've known? Look, 426 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm in touch with Kevin Morris fairly openly, fairly frequently, 427 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: but off the record, so I'm not sure that he 428 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: would give me a heads up, So I have no idea. 429 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think their legal strategy is particularly 430 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: well thought out. It seems to me what they were 431 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: doing yesterday was really just crafting a narrative for the 432 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: Washington Post and New York Times, et cetera. Their allies 433 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: and the media sort of muddy the waters. And you know, specifically, 434 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: I think the classified documents overlap between Joe Biden's scandal 435 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: and what's going on with the US attorney in Delaware 436 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: investigating Hunter Biden. I think that really frightens a lot 437 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: of people because it gets very close to the guts 438 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: of what the laptop reveals, and so I think that's 439 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: why they're sort of, I don't know, muddying the waters, 440 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: trying to get their story out and cemented in the 441 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: public mind. And also their main I think aim is 442 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: to try and cloud the chain of custody of the 443 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: laptop and pour scorn on John paulmac Isaac and try 444 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: and pretend that he's some sort of shadowy political figure. Yeah, 445 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: we talked about this to start the show, Miranda. That's 446 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of what I wanted to ask you about here. 447 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: For a long time Hunter tried to kind of hide 448 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: in the shadows and claim that he didn't know whether 449 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: this laptop was real or not. And certainly you heard 450 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in the debate say that as well, based 451 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: on the fifty one security officials and everything else who 452 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: said all that in their letter. Now it seems to 453 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: me that they're shifting from oh, the laptop isn't real 454 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: to essentially acknowledging the laptop is real and saying that 455 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been shared because that violated the law. 456 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: That feels I think you're right somewhat muddying the waters, 457 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: but also it's a weaker defense. So do you think 458 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: that Hunter is feeling more in peril? Is the heat 459 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: getting increased there? What in the world's going on? Well, 460 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: they just have got a very muddeled timeline of very 461 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: muddeled marrashi. If you know, I've talked to Kevin Morris 462 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: about this, I've heard a story about it last year. 463 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: He has this sort of mind map that's just enormous 464 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: and full of all these squiggly lines and makes absolutely 465 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: no sense. It's a vast conspiracy theory concocted to try 466 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and um, you know, say that the laptop wasn't Hunters 467 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: or John pullmack eyes, that didn't really have it, and 468 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't Hunter who dropped it off, Who wasn't Hunter 469 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: who signed his signature or gave his phone number, etc. 470 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: So it doesn't doesn't stand up to reality. But I 471 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: think they figured no matter how complicated, there's people who 472 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: are on their side and are you know, not have 473 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: been propagandized by their favored media organs that don't really 474 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: understand the full extent of this influence peddling operation, and 475 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: how it's not about Hunter Biden, it's about his father, 476 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the president, and whether he's compromised because of 477 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: the millions of dollars his family ranked in from America's adversaries. 478 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: And they also don't understand at all the FBI cover up. 479 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's all it is. I mean, it 480 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense today his lawyers, apparently the shooter Clariss does. So, 481 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's like Hunter Biden when he goes on 482 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: these interviews and he says, oh, it could be my 483 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: laptop might be is it isn't it could have been stolen. 484 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: He's all over the place, and like his father, he 485 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: says one thing one minute and says the opposite thing 486 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: the next minute, and people are just supposed to accept 487 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: that he tells the truth. You know, Miranda, can I 488 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: ask you at this point, is it your sense that 489 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: the Democrat machine, so everybody in power around Joe Biden, 490 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: do they view Hunter as a significant liability that could 491 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: bring down Joe or do you think they believe it's 492 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: basically handled and now baked in. No. I think that 493 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: they're concerned that he's a loose cannon and and with 494 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, because he's now got all this money behind him, 495 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: and he has Kevin Morris, who's a pretty savvy guy. 496 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: He made a lot of money out of the South 497 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: Park guys. And while he himself is a kind of 498 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: all over the place chaotic individual in his personal demeanor, 499 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: I think he's pretty sharp. And so he's determined that 500 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is going to go on the front foot, 501 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: and I think he has Hunter's best wishes in mind, 502 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: not Joe Biden's or the White House. And you know, 503 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden has always been ambivalent about his father. He 504 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: adores him, hero worships him in the one sense, but 505 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: on the other sense, feels deep anger and resentment towards him. 506 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean you saw that from the laptop when he 507 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: complained busily about having given half his salary to his 508 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: father and basically supported the rest of the extended family 509 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: and having received absolutely no credit or no respect for it. 510 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: They just treat him like some dissolute drug addict. I 511 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: wonder why they would do that, No doubt. Miranda, fantastic stuff. 512 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate the time. 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We power 541 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: through the Thursday edition of the program. A couple of 542 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: different little details out there. They have taken elon Omar 543 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: off of her committee assignment. That vote came down in 544 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: the last forty five minutes or so, and I wanted 545 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: to play this with you. Stay to the Union is 546 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and Joe Biden attended the National Prayer of 547 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: Breakfast with Kevin McCarthy. The two met for ninety minutes 548 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: yesterday to discuss the debt ceiling and what sort of 549 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: deal might be worked out. Buck again, there's gonna be 550 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: a great amount of words written, a lot of historyonics 551 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: surrounding the debt ceiling, and then eventually there's going to 552 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: be a resolution. I got to feel pretty confident United 553 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 1: States is not going to default on its on its loans. 554 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: But there's going to be the usual suspects out there 555 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: telling you that America is on the verge of collapse 556 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: and everything else. But and they'll eventually get something worked out. 557 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: And I think Biden's actually not in that great of 558 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: a spot because Democrats in his party in the Senate 559 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: are already saying, yeah, there needs to be a deal 560 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: worked out. But here is Biden talking again, not a joke, 561 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: about how he's gotten along with a lot of people 562 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: in the past that he didn't agree with. Pully. You know, 563 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: one of the interesting things when I first got to 564 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: the Senate, it was in the days when there were 565 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: some very strong segregations still in the Senate, from James 566 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Oeasland Mississippi and you know strom Thurman. I go down 567 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: the list. I used to watch Teddy Kennedy and James 568 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: o'eastland argue like hell on the floor, and then they 569 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: go to the Senate dirty and sit down. They eat together, 570 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: they eat together. I don't know how we do that anymore, 571 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: but we have to. We have to start treating each 572 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: other in ways different than we have. In my humble opinion, 573 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: let's start treating each other with respect. That's Kevin and 574 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: I are going to do. Not a joke. Look, some 575 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: politicians like each other and others don't. By the way, 576 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: you go back to the founders, Clay We've talked about this. 577 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: Some of the founders literally shot each other. I mean, 578 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, bad things happened. This notion that American politics 579 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: was always everyone just getting a long, having dinners and stuff. 580 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that people should act like 581 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: lunatics and they should resort to fisticuffs, but I just 582 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: think this is a This is a it's a platitude. 583 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: It's a Okay, Now, now I want to push for 584 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: some aspect of my agenda, So I'm going to pretend 585 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: that I want unity so that when you don't do it, 586 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: or you don't come along with what I want, you 587 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: don't want unity. Oh, It's just it's just a ploy. 588 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: It's not serious. Not only that, if Joe Biden has 589 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: told me that I am a threat to America because 590 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't get the COVID shot and that I shouldn't 591 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: be able to work, and that I'm going to have 592 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: to deal with a winner of death, and that I 593 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: am effectively a vector of unacceptable risk. And he's also 594 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: told me that I am supporting Jim Eagle, which is 595 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: far worse than Jim Crow two point zero. And he's 596 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: compared me to Jefferson Davis. I'm sorry, Why do I 597 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: want to make friends with this guy anyway? Like if 598 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: you hate me, Like, we've got a story going up soon. 599 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: On on OutKick, an ESPN guy said that I was 600 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: stupid and that I had had that I had had 601 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: a lobotomy, right, okay, Like he put that out there, 602 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: and then he tried to come back and apologize. I'm like, 603 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: you actually believe it. Don't apologize for who you really are. 604 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: You can agree or disagree with something, but as soon 605 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: as you start to get heat for something that you 606 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: said and you try to backpedal from it, then you're 607 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: just being dishonest and people can see you, see through you. 608 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: And after the last two years of Joe Biden being 609 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: among the most divisive presidents we have ever had in 610 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: our history, I'm sorry, I'm not inclined to give him 611 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and say, Okay, well, let's 612 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: be great friends, let's let's go eat dinner together and 613 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: everything else. You tried to get me fired because I 614 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to get a COVID shot. I'm sorry, You're 615 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: done to me. Let's remember something. Is there anything that 616 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: you can point to that Joe Biden has done something 617 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: that he has either signed an executive order on legislation 618 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: he has signed or even promised to sign that in 619 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: any way could be considered a hand extended to the 620 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: other side to get things done really great, meaning I can't. Hey, 621 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: what are you gonna talk to me about. You're gonna say, 622 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: infrastructure spending. I mean, yeah, Congress always likes to spend 623 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: some money on roads and bridges, and how much of 624 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: it really goes to the roads and bridges, who knows. 625 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: But that's not at you know, that's not Democrats making 626 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: a concession. You know, the government always wants to spend 627 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: more money for government labor. But what about something that 628 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: we can all agree, Hey, that I'll move the football 629 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: down the field. Nothing, there's been nothing. You're exactly right. 630 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: And so now the idea that you're gonna have this, 631 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: oh let's be bipartisan. Well, you lost the House and 632 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: you still have very little control in the Senate and 633 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: you have to do this. It's all fake