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Speaker 3: There we go. It is a Wednesday. It is our

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Speaker 3: number two.

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, one of the all time greats the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, and Ducty in the class at twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: one of the top four five six left tackles of

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Speaker 1: all time.

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Speaker 3: We'll be joining us. He calls the.

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Speaker 1: Preseason games for the Cleveland Browns, which this year are fascinating.

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: J Mack is saying, how can you defend Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: when he's negotiating with Michael Parsons. So the reason I

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Speaker 1: do like, I'm kind of split fifty to fifty. I

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Speaker 1: don't always side with a player. But Jerry Jones is

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Speaker 1: discussing negotiations. He is openly discussing negotiations. Michael Parsons says

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Speaker 1: a year left in his contract in Cincinnati. They won't

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Speaker 1: even we don't even start the conversation. Mike Brown hides

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Speaker 1: from you.

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Speaker 4: Oh so that's the bar, the Cincinnati Bengals of the bar.

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Speaker 1: You have no legal obligation to sign somebody do a

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Speaker 1: contract a year early. We've got a CBA, We've got

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Speaker 1: all this stuff figured out there. You're now The other

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Speaker 1: one is, well, Micah has outperformed his contract.

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Speaker 3: No he hasn't.

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Speaker 1: He's a pro bowler in the top of the first round.

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Speaker 1: The player selected either before or after him, Rareshaun Slater,

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Speaker 1: left tackle, more valuable position, arguably also been a pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: Now he got paid, but he didn't out perform as contract.

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Speaker 1: You're a top fifteen player, you're a pro bowler. You

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Speaker 1: should be, especially if you're in And I think left tackles,

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Speaker 1: and I said this yesterday, quarterbacks the most important position

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Speaker 3: Left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Second, if you get a left tackle like Mishaan Slater,

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Speaker 1: you sign him.

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Speaker 3: Edge rushers, uh, quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Left tackle dominant interior d lineman over edge rusher. There

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Speaker 1: aren't any I mean, we can all who's the best

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Speaker 1: defensive interior lineman ever? Regi White second best, Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: many great interior defensive line. There's a lot of great

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. The league's got eight to ten good ones.

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Speaker 1: There's a kid named Jared Verse for the Rams. That

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Speaker 1: I like Micah, but Jerry is openly discussing the contract

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Speaker 1: a year early.

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Speaker 3: And Micah has.

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Speaker 1: Been an excellent player, but the ID is wildly outperforming

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Speaker 3: No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's he has been a hit. You view first round

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Speaker 1: He's clearly Jerry's open to paying him because he's negotiating.

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Speaker 1: If your company comes to you a year before and hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about a contract that's happened to me once

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Speaker 1: than you normally would. That's a good sign. They like you,

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Speaker 1: but you know they're I don't think. Here's Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: this week on the Micah Parsons negotiations.

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Speaker 5: I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about

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Speaker 5: thirty seconds and gave the number, shook hands. The details

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Speaker 1: A Facebook buying Instagram, a lot of that stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And player contracts are a little different with that. Joe

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Speaker 1: Thomas the all time great left tackle for the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: one of the best ever calling the Browns preseason games.

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Speaker 1: So my lead story today was, there's this bubbling story

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Speaker 1: But I have to ask you, Joe, you've probably heard

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Speaker 1: is it bigger than it should be?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's bigger than it should be because Shador Sanders

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Speaker 6: he's got a lot of people that really believe in him.

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Speaker 6: They're huge fans of him from when he was in college,

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Speaker 6: and they want to see him succeed. And what's the

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Speaker 6: best way for him to succeed is if he just

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Speaker 7: As soon as he walks through the door.

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Speaker 6: In Cleveland, he gets all the reps and no matter

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Speaker 6: But that's not what Cleveland drafted him with a mindset

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Speaker 6: of right, they got him in the fifth round is

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Speaker 6: a great value. They've got a bunch of other quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: to see who's going to separate themselves so that as

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Speaker 7: Give that guy a little bit more reps.

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Speaker 6: So right now, it's just a matter of the situation

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Speaker 6: you want to see him get all the reps and

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Speaker 6: you're mad and you're going to come up with a

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Speaker 7: But really the reality is this is just a situation.

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Speaker 6: He's competing with two other young guys to see who's

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Speaker 6: the first or second preseason game as the clear number

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Speaker 3: So there was an it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I was I don't know who was doing the interview,

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Speaker 1: but I heard Brock pretty talking about this in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours. He talked about and brought pretty

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Speaker 1: six to one and Purty's like about forty percent of

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Speaker 1: the time, I don't see where I'm throwing it. That's

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Speaker 1: times I can't see offensive linemen like Joe Thomas or

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Speaker 1: by the way, Dylan Gabriel played with better teammates at

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Speaker 7: I don't think he is. I think Shadeur is ahead

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Speaker 7: of Dylan right now. Wow. Dylan clearly has some things

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Speaker 6: Obviously, his mobility, his ability to get outside the pocket,

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Speaker 6: to worry about throwing from in the pocket. But the

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Speaker 6: challenge of being a short quarterback, especially in the NFL

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Speaker 6: And that takes a lot more time than if you

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Speaker 6: You're able to see the windows and so far Chadur

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Speaker 6: has I think, in my opinion, outplayed Dylan at this

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Speaker 6: He's been pretty accurate and pretty impressive with some of

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Speaker 6: the big time plays that he's made. And I think

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Speaker 6: that's why a lot of Browns fans are really excited

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Speaker 6: to see him on Friday, as he's going to be

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Speaker 6: he's a gamer, right and so gamers they rise to

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Speaker 6: that occasion and we expect to see some great plays

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Speaker 3: So that's really interesting, Joe.

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Speaker 1: So, because I'm I can only go on clips, but

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Speaker 1: when I watch Dylan Gabriel, there are times he gets

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Speaker 3: I can't see him. I mean literally, and this is

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Speaker 3: not a knock on the kid.

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Speaker 1: This was This was my big question coming into I

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Speaker 1: want my ideal quarterback size. Josh Allen's an outlier. Most

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Speaker 1: guys aren't that big. It's like Justin Herbert six' five.

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Speaker 1: STURDY i just think it, Matters so. LISTEN i didn't

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Speaker 1: shader is pretty pretty. LIKABLE i mean it. IS i

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Speaker 1: mean the, vibe body. LANGUAGE i mean to, me he's

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Speaker 1: tickets you, know bother me as. SOMEBODY i don't even

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Speaker 1: like when guys put their hat on, backwards so speeding

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Speaker 1: tickets really bother. Me how is he what's the vibe

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Speaker 6: AND i think anybody that's been his teammate At colorado

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Speaker 1: Pocket all, right we're gonna circle back To. Cleveland my

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Speaker 1: prediction Was flacco is the. STARTER i said this before.

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Speaker 1: to get in preseason. Now Dylan gabriel's banged, up So

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Speaker 1: shadur could take the lead with a good One. Friday

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Speaker 1: So i'm Going, Flacco shadure And dylan that's my. Order

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Speaker 1: And pickett will be. Moved somebody will lose a. Quarterback

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Speaker 1: he's a capable, backup and we still Have Toshaan, watson

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Speaker 7: IT i think you're onto something right.

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Speaker 6: There i'm not sure That Kenny Pickett i'm gonna take

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Speaker 6: Sense Right he's a guy that's got, Experience he's a

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Speaker 6: Right flacco has done a good, job but we're not

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Speaker 7: Shadoor we want to see. Him can he be that?

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Speaker 1: Season, well great stuff From Joe, thomas The hall Of,

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Speaker 1: famer ten Time pro bowl, er a top five or

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Speaker 1: six left Tackle i've ever seen. Play it is great seeing.

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Speaker 7: Bud, yeah thanks for having me on kin you.

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Speaker 1: Interesting so you, know we asked, him you've seen him both,

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Speaker 1: play and he said he Likes shador Over Dylan, gabriel

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Speaker 1: AND i said before the, Draft dylan looks small and

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Speaker 1: lose it AND i can't see. Him i'm not blaming the,

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Speaker 1: kid but He dylan also played At. Oregon oregon's GOT

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Speaker 1: oregon and their. Touchdowns colorado had a battle, line no run,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel and the best little QUARTERBACK i saw WHEN

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Speaker 3: Vikings most quarterbacks were like six. Four there were big.

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Speaker 1: Guys uh and and And Johnny mandil didn't work And russell.

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Speaker 1: a lot of TIMES i can't see that brought pretty.

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Speaker 1: i Think shaduur is. Taller i've also seen multiple pieces of.

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Speaker 1: and he's a big. Kid I'm i'm six one and

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Speaker 1: THAT i. Know we're six feet and he's clearly bigger than.

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Speaker 1: So Joe thomas Said flacco And, Shaduur that's WHAT i.

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Speaker 1: Think Kenny Piicketts. Soufie you want to if you're drafting two,

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Speaker 3: Play? Flaco is we know What Kenny pickett?

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Speaker 4: Is you don't.

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Speaker 1: Know you don't know What Dylan gabriel is or shit

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Speaker 1: or in a real. GAME i want to see. IT

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Speaker 8: News i'm gonna start this hour with a small team

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Speaker 8: from The midwest known as The Kansas City. Chiefs they've

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Speaker 8: had a pretty decent run during this near dynastic stretch

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Speaker 8: Here Colin Patrick mahomes TOLD Usa today there's stuff we've

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Speaker 8: got to get better, at especially. Myself this plays on

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Speaker 8: Day i'm gonna do whatever it takes to, win whether

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Speaker 8: that's passing for a lot of yards not.

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Speaker 4: Passing for a lot of. Yards BUT i think.

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Speaker 8: IF i play, better that's gonna make it better for the.

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Speaker 8: Team well said by a great. Leader, obviously his receiver

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Speaker 8: stunk last year and they should be much much improved this.

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Speaker 8: Year i'm gonna hate some crow when this team makes.

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Speaker 1: It's the division's. Tough you, know it's funny they're. There

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Speaker 1: A brady played him in The Super, bowl blew him.

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Speaker 1: Out brady played him in THE afc playoff game In

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Speaker 1: arrowhead beat. Him but you, know it shouldn't be lost

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Speaker 1: on anybody That mahomes has been blown out twice In Super.

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Speaker 1: Bowls brady loses Every Super bowl he Lost David tyree,

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Speaker 1: Catch Mario manningham catch The Philly. Special one of the

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Speaker 1: great things About brady he just doesn't get blown out

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Speaker 1: ever in Those Super. Bowls he wins or he loses

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Speaker 1: close and and and there's a. Variation there's a variable With.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and just just before we you, know And i'm

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Speaker 1: not just saying this Because brady's At, fox BUT i

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Speaker 1: know we're ready with mahomes success to just annoyed. Him.

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Speaker 1: King just just Remember brady on the way out had

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Speaker 1: the last, word way out of his, Prime way way

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Speaker 1: out of his.

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Speaker 8: Prime is this your way of Saying mahomes is coming

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Speaker 8: off a really bad year where he was not a

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Speaker 8: top four quarterback in the.

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Speaker 3: League pretty?

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Speaker 4: TRUE i, mean it's pretty.

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Speaker 8: TRUE i know certain chiefs fans of this network are

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Speaker 8: losing their mind hearing, that But i'm, sorry it's just the.

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Speaker 4: Facts let's move.

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Speaker 1: On to That brady didn't have one of the great

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches in league.

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Speaker 8: History, Well josh, McDaniels, right he was phenomenal as a

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Speaker 8: head coach in. Debt oh, no he was terrible and

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Speaker 8: fired almost. Instantly, okay let's move on to The. Rams

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Speaker 8: Colin Devonte adams was on The pivot podcast and talked

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Speaker 8: about the most interesting first round pick from this.

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Speaker 4: Year's, Draft Jacksonville Travis.

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Speaker 10: Hunter i'm not even concerned so much if he can

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Speaker 10: do it over the course of a game or a.

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Speaker 10: Season it's more, like how long is his career going to?

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Speaker 10: Be if he's playing that many, snaps.

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Speaker 3: You gotta put.

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Speaker 1: UP i want to see him on. Offense you, know

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Speaker 1: in the, seventies maybe you put him at corner, First

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Speaker 1: but TODAY i need twelve, targets ten, catches And i'd

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Speaker 1: READ i WOULD i had him in returning. KICKS i

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Speaker 1: would have him doing as much AS i could to

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Speaker 1: guarantee if he gets four, kickoffs he gets twelve TARGET

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Speaker 1: i want the ball in his. Hands you can be

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Speaker 1: a great, corner Soa Saft gardner And Patrick shirtan Before

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Speaker 1: Sean payton doesn't mean you're a playoff. Team you can

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Speaker 1: win games much more easily on the offensive side than

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Speaker 1: the defensive. SIDE i can't wait to watch. Him you,

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Speaker 1: know this is really.

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Speaker 8: Interesting there's a huge disconnect between fans and players on

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Speaker 8: This Travis hunter. Thing BECAUSE i REMEMBER i hosted and

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Speaker 8: had a player in here and he was, like no way.

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Speaker 4: Can Travis hunter play both?

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Speaker 8: Ways now you Got Devonte adams, saying, yeah that's not gonna.

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Speaker 8: Work other players have come out and, said, yeah this

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Speaker 8: is not a good. Idea, meanwhile fans are, like he

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Speaker 8: could do, it why? Not like they just don't Understand,

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Speaker 8: colin that this is going to be little mission impossible

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Speaker 8: For Travis hunter to tackle and defend and then quick

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Speaker 8: turnaround and now you're running routes and Catching like you,

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Speaker 8: said what ten ten balls on twelve?

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Speaker 4: Targets it's.

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Speaker 8: It you can't do it and be successful for a

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Speaker 8: full season or.

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Speaker 1: Career i'll tell you what it's easier to do that

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Speaker 1: then pitch at an all star level and be an

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Speaker 1: all star power hitter like Shoe Heyo tani that, there people,

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Speaker 1: wave this is easier the football. Part i'd rather, say

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Speaker 1: how about? This can you throw at a major league

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Speaker 1: level and Get major League baseball hitters? Out or can

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Speaker 1: you make a tackle on a running?

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Speaker 4: Back what is with?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 4: Look a tackle on a running? Back?

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Speaker 1: Colin have you seen what what show He otani is?

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Speaker 1: Doing doesn't even make sense that he's A he's literally

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Speaker 1: an all star, pitcher all star bas, eater all star power,

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Speaker 1: Hitter All star average. Hitter you're saying That Travis hunter

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Speaker 1: couldn't return, punts be a, receiver and occasionally you'd put

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Speaker 1: him in on pass.

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Speaker 8: Cover, wait he hasn't done it yet in the. Pros

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Speaker 8: let's see if he. CAN i don't think he could do.

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Speaker 8: IT i think it's way more taxing on your body Than.

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Speaker 8: Otani were you bat three or four times a, game,

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Speaker 8: Right that's what's so hard about.

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Speaker 4: That the pitching is every what three or four? Days kyle.

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Speaker 8: IT i think If Travis hunter pulled it, off that's

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Speaker 8: way tougher than what o'tani's doing at a high. Level

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Speaker 8: like he could do it and get cooked and be

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Speaker 8: a terrible. Quarterback but to do it at a high,

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Speaker 8: LEVEL i Think Travis hunter.

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Speaker 1: Lot baseball is more skilled than football. Pitching it's an

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Speaker 1: art form hitting at the major league. Level you have

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Speaker 1: to be in the batting cage for a decade before

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Speaker 1: you ever get into a major dag. Cage Antonio gage

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Speaker 1: made The hall Of. Fame he didn't play college. Football

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Speaker 1: he was.

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Speaker 8: Just a tight end and he wasn't playing both. Ways

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Speaker 8: you know what else is inn art form? Tackling Derrick

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Speaker 8: Henry okay go look that go look up that.

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Speaker 3: Art there's there's One Derek call.

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Speaker 8: And there's One christian, McCaffrey and there's One Saquon, barkley

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Speaker 8: and there's One James. Cook, like come on tackling these, Guys,

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Speaker 8: COLIN i think you're. Way we need to get somebody

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Speaker 8: From jacksonville on the show next week if.

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Speaker 4: Possible all, right next, Up. Colin final.

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Speaker 8: Story The colts just announced That Anthony richardson will get

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Speaker 8: the first crack at the starting. Job he will start

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Speaker 8: in these first preseason game this.

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Speaker 4: Weekend Daniel jones.

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Speaker 8: Aka Danny dimes is the backup and buried here in

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Speaker 8: the notes third.

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Speaker 4: String are you ready for?

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Speaker 8: It Riley, leonard your favorite Former Duke Notre dame quarterback

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Speaker 8: breathing down the neck Of Vanilla vic Aka Daniel.

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Speaker 3: Dimes what are they saying About Riley leonard's.

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Speaker 4: Camp they're not saying anything because he's a non.

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Speaker 8: Factor it's all About Anthony richardson Versus Daniel. Jones if

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Speaker 8: anything On Riley. Leonard they're still talking about that drive

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Speaker 8: that he, had okay to open the.

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Speaker 1: Championship remember a couple of years ago when people made

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Speaker 1: fun of me On Joe. Milton remember that that was

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Speaker 1: a Big. Joe well he was In New england the

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Speaker 1: backup and.

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Speaker 3: Right, YEAH i, said.

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Speaker 1: You, guys just watch the kid's got a. Cannon great

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Speaker 1: kid can. Work if you heard The Joe milton, stories very.

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Speaker 1: Interesting go look Up Joe.

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Speaker 8: Milton, yeah hold on, THAT i, MEAN i MEAN i

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Speaker 8: maybe i'p late to the. Game Joe MILTON nfl stats

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Speaker 8: he played in one game was twenty two or twenty?

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Speaker 8: Nine get me a good in area? Seven twenty two

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Speaker 8: of twenty?

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Speaker 3: Nine what is? He Joe?

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Speaker 4: Montana, well is it like a week eighteen?

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Speaker 2: Game?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 4: WHAT i don't?

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Speaker 5: Know what DO i?

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Speaker 3: See two of twenty? NINE i don't care if it's week.

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Speaker 8: Thirty he's throwing against ups drivers In december in a

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Speaker 8: meaningless game that The patriots.

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Speaker 3: Go look at Where Joe milton is currently. At by the, Way.

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Speaker 4: Joe milton is currently on The Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys interesting ONE nfl, start one eleven passer.

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Speaker 3: Rating you just go ahead and laugh at My riley.

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Speaker 4: Laughing i'm JUST i.

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Speaker 8: Know they took advantage Of Jerry, jones who loves to

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Speaker 8: overpay for guys like the wide receiver they got From.

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Speaker 8: CAROLINA i forget his. Name they got a third round,

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Speaker 8: pick bring him on. Down now they Got.

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Speaker 3: Joe MILLWILL i will die on this.

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Speaker 1: Hill Joe milton deserves a shot to be the guy

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Speaker 1: in this league on some team could be a terrible.

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Speaker 1: Team he deserves a. Shot there is something there with that.

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Speaker 4: Kid are you his? Agent AND i like don't.

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Speaker 3: Know i'm just.

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Speaker 1: Saying i'm not. Saying i'm just. SAYING i watched sixty

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks play year in this.

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Speaker 3: League annually.

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Speaker 1: Sixty Joe milton's had ONE nfl. Start his passer rating

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Speaker 1: was one to.

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Speaker 4: Eleven. Boom, Okay Joe milton Or Zach. Wilson who who

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Speaker 4: would you?

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Speaker 3: Start i'd Been Joe.

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Speaker 1: Milton, yes ALL i got was a bunch of eye

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Speaker 1: rolls on the.

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Speaker 4: Interweb, Okay Joe milton Or Hendon?

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Speaker 3: Hooker Joe? Milton what you just.

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Speaker 8: Like it that he's like six y six and. CHISELED

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Speaker 8: i like.

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Speaker 1: THAT i like that he's a great, athlete coachable with

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Speaker 1: a rocket. Arm that's WHAT i like called traits this.

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Speaker 1: Guy J mack with the, News well.

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Speaker 2: That's the, news and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line.

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Speaker 3: News he was In New. England he played in a preseason.

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Speaker 1: Game i'm, LIKE i don't. KNOW i, mean that looks

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Speaker 1: like a guy that could play in this. LEAGUE i

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Speaker 1: got a lot of. Pushback Uncle colin does not forget

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Speaker 1: those slights on. Quarterbacks coming up, next a quarterback That

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Speaker 1: i'd like to see. WORK i don't think he's gonna,

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Speaker 1: work but he would have a much greater chance to

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Speaker 1: have been. Great but he keeps getting an he keeps

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Speaker 1: getting nothing but the wrong landing.

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Speaker 3: Spot And i'll tell you who that quarterback. Is it's

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Speaker 3: Not Joe.

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Speaker 4: Milton.

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Speaker 1: You, know the from time to, time if you're a,

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Speaker 1: sportscaster somebody will come up and, say, oh my son

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Speaker 1: and my advice is always, like go to. YouTube i

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Speaker 1: didn't have YouTube the distribution models that kids have now are.

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Speaker 1: AMAZING i MEAN i used to have to send out

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Speaker 1: on ninety six dot Five The. FROG i, mean that's

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Speaker 1: the way the world was. Now just go On, instagram

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Speaker 1: go on. YouTube there's no. Excuse somebody will find. You

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Speaker 1: and that's the WAY i kind of feel with, quarterback

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Speaker 1: like And i'll give you an, Example Justin. Fields he's

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Speaker 1: a really nice, kid AND i think he does have,

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Speaker 1: talent but he doesn't have Like Andrew Luck Jaden daniels

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Speaker 1: talent where he can overcome the wrong, coach the wrong.

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Speaker 1: System Andrew Luck goes eleven and five as a rookie

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Speaker 1: roster was. Awful Jaden daniels last year goes twelve and

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Speaker 1: five roster was mostly. Bad those are the first two

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Speaker 1: guys Since John, elway in my, opinion that can just

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Speaker 1: overcome anything right out of the. Gate in THE nfl

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Speaker 1: first year did not have things going necessarily all their.

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Speaker 1: Way AND i would admit That Justin fields has not

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Speaker 1: had the best set of. Circumstances three, teams multiple defensive.

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Speaker 1: COACHES i think he'd be better if he Got sean

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Speaker 1: McVay Or Andy. Reid but here's the reason WHY i

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily buy him is that if he was truly,

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Speaker 1: special McVeigh would call him up to back Up stafford

654
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: because they're going to go draft a, quarterback Or Andy

655
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: reid would call, him Or shanahan would want is that

656
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: the reality with you will always find a. WAY i

657
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Use Josh allen all the. Time Josh. Allen you, know high,

658
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: school high school in the middle of nowhere In. California

659
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: he didn't get any college. Offers he goes To, wyoming

660
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: he gets blown out every time they face teams Like

661
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: oregon And. IOWA i watch those get blown, out blown.

662
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Out high.

663
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: School nobody saw him play zero star at, college almost

664
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: nobody saw him. Play wyoming was bad and everybody in

665
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: the league was flying To. Wyoming smart offensive coaches will

666
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: identify you.

667
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Eventually that's Why Baker.

668
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: MAYFIELD i may have had issues With Baker, mayfield BUT

669
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: i always said he's a top twenty quarterback talent on the. Planet,

670
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: eventually mcveigh's, like get out. Here, Eventually Liam cohen IS

671
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: i like that. Guy Sam. Darnold Kyle shanahan's, like get,

672
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: ME i don't care what happened In carolina and The

673
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: jets offensive coach get. Me Then kevin O'Connell offensive, coach

674
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: get Me Sam darnold and they wanted to resign. Him

675
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: defensive coaches don't have the ability to figure OUT o

676
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: lines and.

677
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks they just. DON'T i, Mean i've said.

678
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: IT i Think Pete carroll Likes Geno smith much more

679
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: than the offensive coaches and the league. Doing gino's. Fine

680
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: but one of the reasons THAT i question justin. Fields

681
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: we got Enough Ohio state, Stuff we had ENOUGH nfl.

682
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Tape where are the offensive coaches? Going just get him

683
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: in the building over, Here it'll.

684
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: WORK i, Mean.

685
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Donald's career was a. MESS i Mean caroline and The

686
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: jets Was i'm seeing. Ghosts shanahan reportedly McVeigh liked. Him

687
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: kevin O'Connell, like the smart offensive guys are, LIKE i

688
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: like that.

689
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: Guy you go look At Patrick. Mahomes When Patrick mahomes get.

690
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: A losing college, record losing, record he was WHY i

691
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: saw him play like once in college he was? Wild

692
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: but who liked? Him Andy, Reid John, gruden shan on.

693
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: Pay it was the offensive coaches that were, like get

694
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: me that college kid with a losing record in an

695
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: average college. Conference so it's not THAT i don't Think

696
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Justin fields has. Talent he does good kid has TO

697
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: i don't think he sees the field very. Well i've

698
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: said it's About Zach. Wilson some guys just don't see the.

699
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Field some guys Like mahomes sees the. Field mahomes can

700
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: see something and let go of the ball within a half.

701
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: Second It's Jayden daniels has, that like cognitively, athletically it's

702
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: weird how good it. Is, Uh AND i just don't

703
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: see that With justin Or Zach. Wilson but one of the,

704
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: reasons Like SAMUEL. L jackson bounced Around hollywood, forever then

705
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: he becomes a. Superstar eventually you'll have A Quentin. Tarantino

706
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: you will find somebody that goes that guy is. Good

707
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: if you never make it In, hollywood it wasn't meant to.

708
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Be somebody will find.

709
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 9: You.

710
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: Eventually somebody's gonna find. You and my question With justin

711
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: feels it one of these offensive, coaches he keeps going

712
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: to defensive Coach jets defense Coach Aaron glenn defensive. Coach defensive.

713
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: Coach they don't have the feel of offensive. Coaches so

714
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's not LIKE i don't like. Him

715
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: it's just is there is there people lined up like

716
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: you could say whatever you want About Kirk. Cousins shanahan likes,

717
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: Him kevin O'Connell likes. Him you, know like like there

718
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: Are Raheem morris Was sean mcvay's best. Friend Raheem morris

719
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: goes To, atlanta they go get and make a bid

720
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: and Get Kirk. Cousins some of that's McVay in McVay

721
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: probably likes. Him so whether you like him or, not

722
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive coaches Like Kirk. Cousins they. Do

723
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: speaking of great, Quarterbacks Josh Allen Hard Knocks Buffalo bills

724
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: finally like an interesting team In Hard knocks they don't

725
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: have any. Controversy SO i don't know how interesting it,

726
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: is but here was a little sample Of Josh allen

727
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: on Hardwa Hard.

728
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 11: Knocks being mentioned FOR mvp means your team is doing really,

729
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 11: well probably in the hunt for the, playoffs and you're doing.

730
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 11: Job it doesn't change my life to have that accolade

731
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 11: or to have more of those. Accolades the only thing

732
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 11: That i'm worried about is doing EVERYTHING i can to

733
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 11: bring A Lombardi trophy.

734
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: HERE i contend that the highest Rated Super bowl of

735
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: all time would be The Buffalo bills and The Detroit,

736
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: lions so kind of in a way rooting for, that

737
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: the long standing Losing Detroit lions and The, bills who

738
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: have actually had a lot of great teams that can't.

739
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: WIND i find right now the easiest team in the

740
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: league to root for is The Buffalo. BILLS i get

741
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: if they had Two Super bowls With Jim, KELLY i

742
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel his. Way but it's like my wife used

743
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: to have to. Work she was in Corporate, america and

744
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: she always said the nicest people she'd ever met were In.

745
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo she's, like it's an underrated place to. Live it's

746
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: the nicest people in the. World and you don't have

747
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: a heart or a soul if you're not rooting For

748
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: buffalo to win A Super. Bowl you have to, like

749
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: here's the. Thing detroit is easy to root. Against they've

750
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: been in, competent, Right it's like it's not like they've

751
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: gotten bad. Breaks, Now buffalo has been really, Competent sean,

752
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: McDermott Jim. KELLY i mean great, Players Marv. Levy they've

753
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: had good, coaches they've had great, quarterbacks they've had good.

754
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: Gms they've had great. Teams they just ran into The cowboy.

755
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: Dynasty they ran into great. Teams so it's if you

756
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: look at all of sports In North, america there are two.

757
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: Teams AND i don't know a lot about, hockey but

758
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: it does feel like The Toronto Maple, leafs it's about

759
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: time they want To Stanley, cup you, know like like

760
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: they've Been they've had enough. Quality that's a big. Sat

761
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: you can't get a ticket to a game In. Toronto

762
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: it's about time they. Won and it's ironic To. Toronto there's

763
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: a little drive over To. Buffalo BUT i feel that

764
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: The Bills lions at the highest scoring game in the

765
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: league last year at ninety. Points If i'm rooting for

766
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: A Super, bowl AND i don't, Really i'm rooting for good. Games,

767
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: lions WHO i think take us that? Back And Buffalo.

768
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Bills AND i said, THIS i was seen as sort

769
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: of A Brady. HOMER i am kind of fatigued with

770
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: The Lebron james. Story it's nothing Against, lebron but Like

771
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: i'm a little fatigued with. IT i, MEAN i know

772
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: he's a big, story BUT i got a little. Fatigue

773
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Like brandy To, tampa to me was. FASCINATING i was

774
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: a new. STORY i was kind of over Grumpy. Belichick you,

775
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: Know tom had to watch what he. Said you, Know

776
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: edelman's getting. Over it's an efficient. Offense it's not that

777
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: much fun to. Watch Like buffalo is a great, watch

778
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: and they're a great watch because of one. Guy it's

779
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: not the schemes of. McDermott they're a great they're a

780
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: great team to watch With. Buffalo BUT i do think

781
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: since twenty, eighteen the resume cannot be. Denied Josh allen

782
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: has more touchdowns than Even Patrick. Mahomes SO i think

783
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: you have to be careful about reducing people. Down Like

784
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: i've said this before About Charles. Barkley barkley's one of

785
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: the RARE nba Players i've ever. Seen he was great in,

786
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: transition he was great in the low, block and he

787
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: was great shooting the, jumper Like Michael, jordan not much

788
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: of a three point. Shooter michael was great in transition

789
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: and could be really, good but he wasn't really a

790
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: low block.

791
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: Performer michael was.

792
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: A mid range, assassin the greatest mid range player of all,

793
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: time and he could finish at the. Rim but he

794
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: didn't put him on the low block a. Lot when

795
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: it was a kind of a center. League barkley could

796
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: go low with that you, know sizable. Butt he was

797
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: great in. Transition he could shoot. Threes he didn't won a. Title,

798
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Now barkley didn't have the best practice. Habits But charles

799
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: is an all. Timer charles is an all. Timer Dan

800
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: marino's an all, timer prettiest throw over the. Football not

801
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: every great. Guy If Derek jeter goes to The Kansas City,

802
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: royals he probably does not win A World.

803
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: Series so you know the landing.

804
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: THING i will say this To buffalo's, credit AND i

805
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: think this they deserve credit for. This it's not a wealthy,

806
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: town although all the owners are. Wealthy they've gone out

807
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: to build a new, stadium and part of the stadium

808
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: build you're seeing it In Hard, knocks is to cut

809
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: down the. Wind and Now Josh allen's got a very strong.

810
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: Arm but that is really an underrated move by The Buffalo.

811
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Bills they're, like, listen we have the first or best

812
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: quarterback on the, planet and he's got about six more

813
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: years of prime. Football let's try to have him throwing

814
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: in blizzards less. Frequently it's not a little. Thing they

815
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: went to the science and they're, like, listen.

816
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: When you Have.

817
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: Josh, allen the only way he can be. Neutralized it's

818
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Not Steve, spagnola it's Not Bill. Belichick he Owned. Belichick

819
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: go look At Josh allen Against. Belichick he owned.

820
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: Him the only.

821
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: Thing that neutralizes the all time great quarterbacks is bad.

822
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Weather that's. It and So, buffalo to their, credit said we're,

823
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Gonna we're. Gonna we gotta make it easier For we

824
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: don't want to go into a game against an inferior

825
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: court on a team of the good pass. Rush And

826
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: josh can't remember a few years how many years ago

827
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: was it when there was a nor'easter and was it

828
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: In buffalo Or? Foxborough it Was Mac jones Against Josh.

829
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: ALLEN i don't even know where the game was it.

830
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: Was it may have been In. Foxborough it was horrible

831
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: weather and it was like a good game BETWEEN i

832
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: think it Was Mac jones And Josh. ALLEN i swear

833
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: my memory hasn't hasn't, Faded and it was like bad

834
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: weather hurts the superstar quarterback And buffalo's, like, yea we're

835
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: gonna fix the weather. Thing credit to them so and

836
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: credit To Josh, allen WHO i do think is more

837
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: talented Than Patrick. Mahomes But mahomes inherited and you read

838
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: and that's just a. Difference that's the. Difference it's Bo

839
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Nick Sean, Payton that's the. Difference So jay mac CAN

840
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: i push back on?

841
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 6: Something?

842
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 8: Sure see you said the best Super bowl would Be

843
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 8: Bill's lions or the highest, rated the most.

844
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: Interesting what IF i Said Bills.

845
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 8: Niners you get two, coasts you Get Kyle.

846
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: Shanahan looking to exercise.

847
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 8: Demons you've got the dead last pick in the, draft

848
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 8: rock party Against Josh. ALLEN i Think Niners bills would

849
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 8: be an unbelievable contrasting styles in quarterbacks and. Coaches offensive

850
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 8: coach first defensive coach in The Super.

851
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Bowl The niners are The yankees of The West. Coast

852
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: they have a huge, following so The niners will always

853
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: get a GOOD tv. Rating but Brock perty is not.

854
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: Dynamic oh, shit op. THIS i think The lions are

855
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: a little bit like The. Cubs remember The Cubs Indians

856
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: World Series Lovable?

857
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: Losers yeah, YEAH i mean that's The lions to.

858
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 6: Me