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Speaker 1: From the RAMS facility at Cal Lutheran. Welcome to between

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Speaker 1: the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. I am with DeMarco far.

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Speaker 1: It is the end of draft day. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: a day, especially for the Los Angeles Rams, who made

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Speaker 1: ten picks. Ten picks on Day three d far ten

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Speaker 1: new players coming in. Yeah. More competition total, Yes, more

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Speaker 1: competition coming in. That's exactly what you want coming out

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Speaker 1: a draft day. No one should be comfortable, even the stars.

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Speaker 1: There were young guys coming for your positions. That's what

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Speaker 1: the drafts about. Yeah, And I think one thing that

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Speaker 1: we can say about this class is that, yes, the

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Speaker 1: Rams added positions players, four positions where there are some

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Speaker 1: clear needs, linebacker being one of them, offensive line being another.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like, and I told you this before

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Speaker 1: winning organizations do. And I say that because where they

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Speaker 1: got guys, the way they went about getting guys, it

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Speaker 1: just felt like a team that was in control of

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Speaker 1: What do you say. The old saying is good teams

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Speaker 1: don't rebuild their reload. Ye, discounts is reload. You're reloading

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Speaker 1: your depth. You're getting some backups for guys like Andrew Whitworth,

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Speaker 1: who's getting up there but still quality play, great player

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Speaker 1: at left tackle, but you need someone some camp legs

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Speaker 1: or a guy that can spell them, or a guy

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Speaker 1: that can actually replace him. So when you look at

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Speaker 1: how the Rams drafted and how they went about their business,

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Speaker 1: I thought they added the exact right pieces for this

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Speaker 1: football team. Hit all the right notes coming out of

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Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I thought so too. So we can

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Speaker 1: go through some of the names right now. I'll just

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna save all the names, well most of the names,

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Speaker 1: or at least one of the names for you, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'll read them off the sheet. So one

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Speaker 1: thing that's kind of funny is that the Rams did

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Speaker 1: not really have any of their original draft choices. They

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Speaker 1: received all their draft choices via trade. Even though the

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixtieth overall pick the fifth round that

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Speaker 1: a key to League, got it back yeah, as part

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Speaker 1: wonder if it's gonna continue like that. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it will. Will that be a trend? Yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe if you get that can't miss guy in the draft,

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Speaker 1: quarterback whatever. The next couple of years it won't be

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Speaker 1: like that. But this was a wheel in the deal on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially in the later rounds, right. I mean

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Speaker 1: a lot of deals were going on because different teams

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Speaker 1: have different things that they want from different spots, and

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Speaker 1: if you have certain guys and certain tiers on your

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Speaker 1: you're adding an extra pick in the fourth round, you're

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Speaker 1: adding an extra pick in the second round. In less

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Speaker 1: sneeds case, he kept adding picks in the sixth round

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Speaker 1: and then he got um oh boy, and that's the

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Speaker 1: name that I'm gonna save that name for you. Round

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Speaker 1: even let's go through all eleven of these picks. So

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Speaker 1: in the third round it was the twenty fifth choice

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Speaker 1: note Boom out of TCU made a notebook joke last

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Speaker 1: night on Twitter, you met. The Notebook is a good movie.

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Speaker 1: It's a quality movie. How did it go over? I'd actually,

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Speaker 1: would you actually say that same joke to him, mister

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Speaker 1: note boom? Maybe only because he's a rookie, he's huge, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is a really good movie. Anyway, So fourth round two selections.

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Speaker 1: First was one hundred and eleventh overall. That was offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman Brian Allen of Michigan State. He's a center and

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Speaker 1: that later on in the fourth round one hundred and

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Speaker 1: And the fifth round own um, the Rams were at

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Speaker 1: one hundred forty seventh overall. They picked Mica Kaiser, a

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixtieth overall, they picked outside linebacker Obo Okorn.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I feel really bad because I don't like

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Speaker 1: mispronouncing people's names. But yes, punition when he cover that.

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Speaker 1: Long Our buddy had a funny tweet that was basically

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Speaker 1: ohs on the Los Angeles Rams. He has sixty four

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Speaker 1: it up like all time or last season. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: but current Rams roster is what no doubt? Probably league wide? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really good for the La Rams. Also in the sixth round,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety second overall Jamil Dimbie out of Maine.

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Speaker 1: He is an offensive lineman one hundred and ninety fifth

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Speaker 1: this is another compensive No, it's not a story pick,

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Speaker 1: this podcasts. Two hundred and fifth overall outside linebacker Trevon Young.

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Speaker 1: He is out of Louisville, two hundred and thirty first overall,

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Speaker 1: thirteenth choice Travan Howard, linebacker und at TCU, and finally

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Speaker 1: the seventh round pick twenty sixth choice, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: as long as Andrew Whitworth is healthy, that's your guy.

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Speaker 1: become a starter. I think it's a great pick. Well.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that Sneeton McVay were talking about

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Speaker 1: he is aware of Andrew Whitworth. He knows that he's

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. He actually knows who's playing in

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that's he'd be willing to teach. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, because look, the Rams know what situation they're

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've got a quality guy to protect you

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Speaker 1: just to talk to Joseph note Boom directly, Andrew Whitworth

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Speaker 1: should not carry his own pads throughout training camp ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 1: ever ever, And don't speak until he speaks to you.

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Speaker 1: Just let you know anyway. I don't think I feel like,

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Speaker 1: You have to earn the right to speak to him.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to earn. You have to earn the

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Speaker 1: right to speak to him. I guess you kind of, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think this is more of a John Johnson type pick.

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Speaker 1: But not necessarily even that. You know, you think about

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup when the Rams got him at the sixty

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Speaker 1: that strong safety role exactly, and it turned out to

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Speaker 1: see what this guy looks like on a professional field.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if it shows up. I like

424
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Speaker 1: the tape he pops on tape. I want to see

425
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Speaker 1: if he can do or be that same sort of

426
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: guy versus pro competition. What popped on tape too. Oh,

427
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: he's got a great first step, he's got a good punch.

428
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 1: He's got good pursuit. I mean he's he's he's very

429
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: well trained when he's getting to the quarterback upfield shouldered

430
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: hardly misses love that sort of stuff. But let me

431
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: see that show up out here, right when there's a

432
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 1: bunch of guys out there that can also play right

433
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: and that that is I think that the difference when

434
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: you're going from place like Stephen F. Austin, you know

435
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: your competition is not going to be the same as

436
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: it was, say if you were playing in the SEC.

437
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, so now I think it's almost the

438
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup question. Can you perform at that level once

439
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: you get to this level? Oh yeah, well, boxing reference,

440
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: when a guy unloads the Sunday punch, your big right hand,

441
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: whatever you think is going to knock a guy out,

442
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: and you tag him with it and he's still there,

443
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: then what yes? Yeah, So I want to see if

444
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: his skill set, his moveset, how he sets up guys

445
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: to get to the pastor I want to see if

446
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 1: that actually translates out here. If it does, Wow, you've

447
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: got something. You've got another piece on your D line.

448
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: You're already loaded defensive line. You are, Yeah, and this

449
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: is this is a good thing. So he's probably depth

450
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: at defense in specifically five technique. That's what the Rams

451
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: are saying kind of in the draft room. And then

452
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: he said that as well. I'm Franklin did to the

453
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: media see me as a d ND. Someone said he

454
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: might be as good like right now, and I thought

455
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: this might have been a knock on Morgan Fox. It

456
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: could be he's as good as Morgan Fox right now.

457
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you know that? He hasn't even

458
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: taken a snap yet. Interesting, but they think athletically in

459
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: the way he plays, he could be as good right now.

460
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: I said, I need to see that. I need to

461
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: see that too. I really like Morgan Fox. Yeah, I

462
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: think we both do. We do prove that to me.

463
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: Let me see that. That's why I said, I want

464
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: to see this guy out here. Let me see him

465
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: perform versus pros guys that get paid. Yes, and he

466
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: is technically a local kid born in Los Angeles, so

467
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: nice for him to be able to get back out here. Oh,

468
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: he'll be playing for free thirty five tickets at every

469
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: home game. I'm just kid. Oh yeah, that'll be I'm

470
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: sure that'll be really really fun for him another the

471
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: first I should say, fifth round and draft choice. And

472
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Speaker 1: this is one I think that at least position wise,

473
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: people were really really looking for in terms of inside linebacker.

474
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: And the Rams picked up MIKEA. Kaiser out of Virginia

475
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: since his senior year in high school all through college,

476
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: like seven hundred tackles. That's amazing. All this guy does

477
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: is score one hundred tackles a year. That's all he does.

478
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: He runs everything down. And McVay mentioned this um sort

479
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: of imprompted, but just basically thinking about what are the

480
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: good things that Kaiser does as a football player, and

481
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: he mentioned great communicator. Oh good. So you know, we

482
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: keep talking about, Okay, who's going to be the defensive signal?

483
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: It is up for grabs, and I don't necessarily know that.

484
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: You know, when you're one hundred forty seventh overall pick

485
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: that you can you're expected to come in and be

486
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: of that day one starter. Anybody that active is definitely

487
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: definitely has good cardio, so he would be a candidate.

488
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: Don't give it to a guy with bad cardio. Yeah. Yeah.

489
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: When you can't breathe, you can't speak. When you can't speak,

490
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: you can't communicate. This is awesome right right, But watching

491
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Speaker 1: him on tape, yeah, I mean I love his dimension

492
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: six two about two fifty, and I mean he is

493
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: he's in a thousand different directions all at once. Yeah. Yeah,

494
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: I heard. The other guy that had just as many

495
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: tackles is a guy named Luke Keikley. Yeah. When you're

496
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: compared to a guy like Keikley, I don't like you.

497
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: I love you, yes, yeah, yeah, this guy another guy

498
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see compete for a job out here. Yeah,

499
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: Because I mean you have guys lack Remique Wilson, who

500
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about before, is potentially becoming that

501
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of defensive signal caller, if by nothing else, then

502
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: virtue of the fact that he's one of the few

503
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Speaker 1: inside linebackers who were already on who was already on

504
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: the roster, right, And then you also have guys on

505
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: the inside like Mark Baron, like Corey Littleton. Bryce Hagar

506
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: would also be another one of those guys I don't

507
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: want to like, slow down Mark Baron with signals just

508
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: run yeah yeah right, yeah, hit'll signal from somebody else.

509
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: You just run very fair. So this is something that

510
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: I think is going to be interesting to see over

511
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: the course of OTAs, over the course of training camp.

512
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: Right now, we're still in April. You've still got five

513
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: months basically until that first game, so there was a

514
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: lot of time to figure out that defensive signal caller.

515
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: But I still think it's a very important It definitely

516
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: won't We tried that. We tried that one time. It

517
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: didn't work for you. We mentioned that, you mentioned seven

518
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: you mentioned seven hundred tackles. It's high school right now.

519
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: Many tackles I had my senior year of high school.

520
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Speaker 1: I'll put it. If you broke double digits, I'd be shocked.

521
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: I didn't. There was like everybody on all the seniors,

522
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: I should say, I think they were eighteen of us.

523
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: Everybody had at least a defensive point. So, like you

524
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: did something on defense, whether it was a pass breakup,

525
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: a tackle, etc. Everybody had a point except for the

526
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: quarterback in me Miles. So you don't want to put

527
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Speaker 1: that on tape, bro I don't know. You don't want

528
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: to like make that public. I don't mind because you want.

529
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: I started nine of ten games in the regular season

530
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Speaker 1: at actually it was eight of ten. A guard one stalling.

531
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and say the name. He's next, go ahead,

532
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Well you know what also about Kaiser, But he played

533
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: all over the field, so that's something else that he

534
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: can do. Um they played three four defense and yeah,

535
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: I guess the next. That's sick Um, which is the

536
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixtieth overall pick that the Rams traded

537
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: to Denver for a key to leave and then received

538
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: back from Denver Um in exchange for a couple of picks.

539
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: Um is outside line ahead Abania All right, ok okay, yeah,

540
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: so this is the official non official. I shouldn't have

541
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: said official. This is the not official pronunciation of this name, Agbania.

542
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: He has a nickname, right, they call him Obo. Okay,

543
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: that's what we'll call So I feel like every time

544
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: he makes a really good play, we should just like

545
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: tweet a picture of an Obo. Make him stop? Okay. Sometimes,

546
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, for the audience that is just listening to

547
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: us on the podcast instead of watching us, I wish

548
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: that they could just see your face stop when I

549
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: say certain things and you just look at me with

550
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: such disdain and just disappointment. Okay, you only get two

551
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: That's that's all you get, book, and then that that's

552
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: all you get for the rest of this all right,

553
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: So what do you think of Obo? You know I

554
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: met him at the senior ball, didn't you. I love

555
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: his dimensions. I love the way he looks in paths,

556
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: and I love the way he plays. Um. It seemed

557
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: like that was the perfect fit. When you're out there

558
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: and you're looking for edge rushers and you're looking for

559
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: guys that I guess fit the dimensions right would be him.

560
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he really looks the part. He looks great

561
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: getting off the bus, and he can play. And I

562
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: love the fact that he plays better in a two

563
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: point that he can stand up and go. Now, you're

564
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: gonna have to do some things you're not used to

565
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: doing in this defense. But what he has and what

566
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: he brings to this football team, Wade Phillips could definitely

567
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: use it, especially with the interior pass rush. You have

568
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: known a guy that just keeps contained. Yes, the twenty

569
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: one man rule. We talk about this a lot. You

570
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: know what the twenty one man rule is? I feel

571
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: like I do, but you should say it to me anyway. Well,

572
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: if you're the twenty first man, that means keep everything

573
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: inside of you, don't let anything outside, keep it all inside.

574
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: He can definitely do that. I saw him fight off

575
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: guys at the Senior Bowl. I mean really really work

576
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: to keep leverage and keep contained. So that's the stuff

577
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: that defensive coordinators cove it. I mean getting to the passer,

578
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: rushing the passer. I mean some guys are natural lighted,

579
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: some guys are better. Some guys can just work at

580
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: it and make themselves good pass rstors. Connor Barrowin made

581
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: himself a good pass rusher. But keeping contain, keeping outside leverage,

582
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: that's the stuff that defensive coordinators cove it and love,

583
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: and that's what he can do. Well. I can tell

584
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: you having been in the draft room when they traded

585
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: up to make that selection, they were everybody in there

586
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: was as fired up as anybody to get him. Wait

587
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: till you see this guy in pads. Yes, I mean wow,

588
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: it's impressive. Well, and the first thing Wade Phillips said

589
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: when he got out on the phone with him was

590
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: are you ready to come rush the passer? Good? That's

591
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: what did he say. I have not heard the only

592
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: answers yes, sir, Yeah, I'm sure that's what he told. Yeah.

593
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: Anything else, just anything, well, anything you say anything else

594
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: other than yes, sir, hang up the phone right. Well,

595
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: when he was talking to the media on his conference call,

596
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: he said, the Ram see me as an edge guy

597
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: who can do linebacker things and also at an instant

598
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: easier for me to say contributor on special teams. So

599
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I'll be kind of doing what Robert Quentin was doing.

600
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna, like, you know, defer to

601
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: bones fossil on the special teams. Deal. We'll see, we'll see,

602
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: we'll see. But yeah, I mean, look, rookies are going

603
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: to have to work. That's the job. You're gonna have

604
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: to do special teams. So yeah, they'll find a role

605
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: for him. But he's gonna make his bones keeping containing

606
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: like you said, getting to the passer. Yeah, And what's

607
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: interesting is that he said he felt like the Rams

608
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: were going to take him. It was just a matter

609
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: of time. The Rams Swearie, I swear Miles walking into

610
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: the stadium when we got there late halfway through the

611
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: first practice, and the first time I saw him, I'm like,

612
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: that's the guy. No, lie, really, he looks the part.

613
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: That's the guy. If you're looking for an edge guy,

614
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: that's him right there. Well, yeah, it is. Yeah, another

615
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: little tidbit from the draft room, and we will have

616
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: a series of inside of the draft room articles over

617
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: the course of the coming week. But it was interesting

618
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: to see as this was sort of unfolding because this

619
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick. The Rams did not originally

620
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: heading into this draft have any fifth round picks, and

621
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: so as things keep going, all of a sudden, it's like, boom,

622
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're actually going to trade up to

623
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: get back into one sixty. They traded with Denver and

624
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: again this is a Rams original pick, which is kind

625
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: of funny. But as they do it, less Need you Know,

626
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: is calling. He's on the phone. You got twenty Pastewers

627
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: on the phone. My goodness. But everybody starts coming back

628
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: in because you want all those coaches to be able

629
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: to say hello to the pick. And so when Wade

630
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: Phillips comes in, he and Lessony do a little fist bump.

631
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips explodes the fist bump. That's pretty cool. Wow. Yeah,

632
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips was jacked about this one. I'm worried about you.

633
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Why I'm worried about you right now? Are I was

634
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: just I was just telling a little story. You just

635
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: gave me a play by play on a fist bump

636
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I did. It was great. I mean I saw it

637
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: my mind's eyes. I saw then. I feel like I

638
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: accomplished my mission. Wow. All right. Next pick was from

639
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: the sixth round. They got this one from the New

640
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: York Giants, John Kelly, running back out of Tennessee. You're

641
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: the first guy that mentioned Alvin Kamara that that sort

642
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: of I can't really, I cannot necessarily take credit for that.

643
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I will give a shout out to Nate Vane, our

644
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: friend and former colleague who now works for the Tennessee Titans.

645
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Is a Tennessee alum, went there for grad school, and

646
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: so he knows that football team pretty well. He watches

647
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: it all the time. And he said to me, this

648
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: is a guy who in some ways is like Camara

649
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: because he didn't necessarily get the opportunities on the field. Okay,

650
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: and so stylistically, stylistically probably a little bit not the same. Okay,

651
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: does have really good hands, and so you're now you're

652
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: talking about and in that way obviously that you have

653
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: the camar comparison. Well, the first thing they mentioned, I

654
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: think it was Sean McVay that said his toughness. Yeah, yeah,

655
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: and I believe he is a Philadelphia, no Detroit kid.

656
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Yes kid, I mean that's where you want to, you know,

657
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: get your running backs. I'm talking about toughness. You're talking

658
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: about Detroit is all about toughness. So yeah, I mean

659
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I looked up his high school and you know where

660
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: it was at, and just doing some research on him. Uh.

661
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: And then when you match that with the film you're watching,

662
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean it all makes sense. And the guy won't

663
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: turn down a shot and he's fast. Yeah, yeah, he

664
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: can avoid you, he can go through you. Um, and

665
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be competition behind Todd Gurley, there is. Yeah,

666
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: there's gonna be competition for those carries. I don't know

667
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: how many you're gonna get. Maybe Todd has designs untaken

668
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: every single carry if he wants to, and he can

669
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: handle it, so be it. But who whoever that backup

670
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: is has got to be able to keep pace or

671
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: keep the offense on schedule, so to speak, running football,

672
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: whether that's Malcolm Brown or whether that's a guy like

673
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Justin Davis still on the roster, or now you do

674
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: have John Kelly and that's somebody that can maybe come

675
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: in and contribute so I think obviously, when you're a

676
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: sixth round pick, you gotta expect that you're going to

677
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: be doing some special teams. I would expect to see

678
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that from Kelly coming up. But if he shows that

679
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: he can keep his hands on the football and that

680
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: he can run it, well, I don't see why he

681
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: can't be that kind of change of pace guy that

682
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: they probably envisioned Lance Dunbar would be. But just because

683
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: of Dunbar's health, that didn't necessarily work out that way

684
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: last year. We're gonna see he's going to get the

685
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to show what he can do. Yeah. Absolutely, And

686
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: like you said, when you have a running back you

687
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: just drafted to couple with a left tackle and a center, Yes,

688
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: preseason is going to be fun. Yes, yeah, absolutely, And

689
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: that this is another thing, you know, depth, Where are

690
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: we pointing out who we're looking at? You just keep working.

691
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. We're outside, so I could

692
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: easily to stress. Let me explode the fist bump, go ahead, anyway,

693
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: that was a good story. That was a good story.

694
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Refused to act like otherwise. But anyway, but you know,

695
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: he was talking about um watching Alvin Kamara and you

696
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: know what it was like to see him and do that.

697
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: And so what he told the media was me just

698
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: being able to watch him work at practice and he

699
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: caught everything. It translated that he translated that to the league.

700
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: I expected him to do the great things that he did,

701
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: and just having a guy like that his motivation for

702
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: all the younger guys that are under him. So that

703
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: definitely motivated me a lot. It was a path, I mean,

704
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: there's a path to the league. I love it. Well,

705
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: I did love it when guys that you were playing

706
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: with or behind or in front and they made it

707
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: to the next level. Yeah, and you're thinking, if he

708
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: can do it, why not me, Well, I'm going to

709
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: do it. Oh if he's having success at the next level,

710
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: then it's also something I'm going to do exactly. Yes.

711
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Cool um. So also the second of four six round

712
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: choicest ninety second overall. This is the choice that the

713
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Rams received in that Tavon Austin trade that was used

714
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: on offensive lineman Jamil Dimby out of Maine. Full disclosure, Man,

715
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: this is the only guy I don't know much. I

716
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know that much about him. He was apparently at

717
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl Okay, so you were there. I was not,

718
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to throw you under the bus.

719
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about him, Yeah, but neither

720
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: do I. Yeah, I'm actually going in reverse. I'm learning

721
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: about him now, which is fine. I mean, this is

722
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: this is the way the draft kind of works. Um,

723
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: what's interesting? Well, Lesnie gets paid to scout Maine. Yes, yeah,

724
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: and we kind of skipped Maine. The Rams had a

725
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: little bit of inside information because new Rams assistant wide

726
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: receivers coach Liam Cohen. Oh yeah, was actually his offensive

727
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: coordinator at Maine this past season. Now Cohen is with

728
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: the Rams. So oh, Maine, right, No, Delaware? Which one?

729
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Delaware is the Blue Hens? Okay, what's Maine? Could anybody

730
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: know the mascot at Maine the Bears something? No one,

731
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: nobody knows what come on in the life line here?

732
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: Nobody knows that the mask. I'm sorry, but it was funny.

733
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: It's it's like the Black Bears. Yeah, the Black Bears,

734
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: Black Bears, the Black Bears. Yeah. Well, very interesting. Bump

735
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: Okay exploded, he said. He told the media here in

736
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: LA that here pretty much all left tackle throughout his

737
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: four years of college, so he was just used to

738
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: being on the left side. But throughout this process, I've

739
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: been working on my versatility and from a concept standpoint,

740
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: I understand the game and had some great coaching. So awesome,

741
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: that's what he was telling the media. So we will

742
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: see how things shake out. And so again it's more

743
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: competition there, more about that interior of the well, if

744
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: he's playing tackle, I should say exterior of the offensive line.

745
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: And so that's something I think that the Rams definitely

746
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: could use. If your name isn't Whitworth, saffled Brown, Havenstein,

747
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: you better be in the gym. Soliv you better be

748
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: and Sullivan you better be working your butt off right now.

749
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: There's competition out there for jobs. Oh yeah yeah, Oh

750
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: there's young, hungry people, no doubt about it. Um, we

751
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: have four more picks to get through here quickly. We

752
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: will try to get through them for all of you.

753
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: Are we going so fast? Oh? No? Where you have

754
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: to go nowhere in particular? Slow down. I'm just I'm

755
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: just trying to be efficient here. The guy that's telling

756
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: fist bump stories is trying to be efficient. Go ahead,

757
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: you enjoyed the fist bump story. Go ahead, No you

758
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: don't want to admit it, but anyway, Sebastian Joseph was

759
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: nine overall choice. That was a pick received from Buffalo

760
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: via trade. He is a defensive lineman out of Rutgers.

761
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: The things you can tell when you're watching football without

762
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: sound is definitely the passion. You can tell that by

763
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: how long guys stay on the ground. This guy has.

764
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I think he's allergic to the ground. What do you mean,

765
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, when he gets up and he's pursuing. I mean, look,

766
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean like if he gets pancake, if he gets

767
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: if he gets knocked down, tripped, what have you pursuing

768
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: the football? He's up in the blink and he's pursuing again.

769
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: I mean he's pursuing to the football hall. Yes, And

770
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean there's some things that you can teach that

771
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: he needs to get better at, you know, keeping leverage

772
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: on blocks, making sure you don't get washed by. But

773
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: when you watch and he's in pursuit, this guy is dogged.

774
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: It seems like it means more to him than it

775
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: does the other guys on the field, not just his

776
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: own teammates, everybody on the field. Well, this is one

777
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: of the things I think you want out of maybe

778
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: sixth round, seventh round, these late round guys, high motor,

779
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: somebody that because you don't have to teach effort, right,

780
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: there are things that can be coached. I think what

781
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: you're talking about, they're playing with better leverage and things

782
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: like that. You can coach that. Yeah, I mean when

783
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: you bring out of your gap. I mean, I mean

784
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: there's stuff that you're going to get out here with

785
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: professional coaches. And remember you don't have school to worry about.

786
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: This is your job now, yes, so you have all

787
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: day to work on this. So he's going to get

788
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: better at the fundamentals. But like you said, the stuff

789
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: you can't teach, yes, like effort. Yes, he's got that

790
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: and he's he displays that every single snack. Right. So

791
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: one of the things that they might look for, Um

792
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: Joseph to do once he comes in playing nose tackle.

793
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Maybe spell at three technique as well, But he said,

794
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm incollege. He played both when he first came in.

795
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: I played three technique my third year. I moved three

796
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: year playing three. Now sorry, sorry, that job is filled.

797
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm just not not as a starter. But maybe you

798
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: come in and play a snap when one snap okay,

799
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: and then you can go back in on the sideline

800
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: where you belong there even walks fast. Do you do

801
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: anything slow? He said, no, no here, and I absolutely

802
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: believe that there's no way coach Rath does anything no slow.

803
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Um anyway, so Joseph said, my third year, I moved

804
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: to nose tackle and I played basically three different sides.

805
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: I played three tech, I played shade nose, and then

806
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: I played short notes. So I think I'm pretty versatile

807
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: in that aspect there. I always say this, man, there

808
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: should never be a no in your vocabulary as a

809
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: young defensiveligement. Oh yeah, can you play nose tackle? Yes, sir,

810
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you play defensive end? Absolutely? Yes? Can you play three technique? Sure?

811
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: Is that the way you were? That's the way everybody

812
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: should be. Yeah. Can you play on the right? Can

813
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: you play on the left? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, even if

814
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: you can't, yes, I can. Well, I mean what is

815
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: that saying? The more you can do, the more you

816
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: can do. But that applies to all kinds of things

817
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: in life, not just you know, football, different positions, but

818
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: like my job, I can do. The more you do

819
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: everything right, you know, like you're better off. Yes, you

820
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: can interview people, hosts and do podcasts, right the Big Three.

821
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean you you talk about Donald, Sue and Brockers.

822
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some mix and match guys in there,

823
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: some some different positions that are open. So you may

824
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: be able to steal a few reps at nose tackle,

825
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: You may be able to steal a few reps at

826
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: three technique. Maybe remember Dominic Easily is still here. Absolutely, yes,

827
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean there's gonna be some some roles out there

828
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: for some guys. No, I think that's important Tree. Remember,

829
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like, and I don't really have a

830
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: necessarily basis to know this on because we have not

831
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: seen them on the practice field yet this year, and

832
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: we won't for another few weeks. But just thinking about

833
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: how creative Wade Phillips can be. Just from a scheme standpoint,

834
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: there might be times where in Aaron Donald, a Dominican

835
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Sue is lined up on the outside in a pass

836
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: rushing situation and then you bring in somebody else and

837
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: put them on the inside. And so maybe that's a

838
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: way for you to quote un steal a rep. You know,

839
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what would make you do that. I don't know.

840
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean a week tackle, if your opponent lost both

841
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: tackles the week before. I don't know, I just I'm

842
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: not I'm just I'm making fun of you. Do that.

843
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: But from the standpoint of like even in the Atlanta game,

844
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: that playoff game, Aaron Donald lined up on the outside.

845
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and yes, yes, because he's that good and

846
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: won his battles. Yes, something just flew anyway. Oh yeah, yeah,

847
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: excuse you've been making fun of me from I'm not

848
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: making fun of my my fist pump story. Where are we?

849
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: We are at the last pick of the sixth round

850
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: for the LA Rams thirty first choice, two and fifth

851
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: overall Travon Young, outside linebacker out of Louisville. Was there

852
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: a quote by Samson ebucom that says, whoever is not

853
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: taking my job? There's a guy that I don't know. Yeah,

854
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I think I just read that. Yeah, there's a guy

855
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: who understands about these young guys coming in. When you

856
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: pick four edge rushers in the draft, that means the

857
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: job is open, regardless of whose pencil in at one

858
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: and two. Yeah. So that's the reaction I like out

859
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: of a second year guy or a guy going into

860
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: a second year when you see a draft like this. Yeah,

861
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: there's going to be competition. Yeah, you know how I

862
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: feel about samson A becoming I think that he is

863
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: a really good young player, and I'm really looking forward

864
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: to seeing how he has progressed from year one to

865
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: year or two as we get into training camp and

866
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: you start seeing those one on one battles with the

867
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. What kind of new things has he learned?

868
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: What can he really take there? This is what I

869
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: would whisper to him. The easy part is getting to

870
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, and that's that's almost impossible. Yeah, you know

871
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: what's impossible staying in the all Yeah, you have to

872
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: keep getting better, right, Yeah, because they're always looking to

873
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: replace you four outside guys, four edge rushers in a draft. Well,

874
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: but I there's that aspect of it. But there's also

875
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: the aspect of it that's you know, you also shipped

876
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: off Robert Quinn. True. All indications at this point are

877
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin probably will not be back for the Rams.

878
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: So those are your two starters at outside linebacker. It's

879
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: anyway right right, So yes, it is open. I think

880
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: even you could say right now samson A becom is

881
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: penciled in at one of those spots. And at this

882
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: point Matt Long Anchor would be penciled in at one

883
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: of the other spots because those were the two guys

884
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: who were backing up last year. But as you said,

885
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: this is up for grabs when you have somebody like

886
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: a treyvonn Young. Hey, maybe this is another guy that

887
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: can come in and get some reps based on what

888
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: he does in practice. And like I said, I love

889
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: the he is built to be an outside linebacker. Yeah,

890
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean you are playing the exact right position. I

891
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: love it when guys are born and bred outside backers

892
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: or or running backs and they're actually playing that position

893
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL, not a position switch can't stand that,

894
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: or they're playing out of position, yes yeah, or they're

895
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: labeled as something and they're clearly not right. Yeah, we'll

896
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: leave that there. Okay, Yeah, I think I picked up

897
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: what you were putting down. But um so, he was

898
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: saying to the media that he feels like he's going

899
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: to fit in well with Wade Phillips scheme. Young said,

900
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to be a pass rusher.

901
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: What I bring to the team is putting pressure on

902
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback or whatever they ask me to do, I'm

903
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: willing to do so I'm ready to go. Can you

904
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: cover a kick? He's gonna have to probably do some

905
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: of that. Thank you, m you know, at least in

906
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: terms of covering kicks. Can I put you on the

907
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: wing on the field goal team? Can I use you

908
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: in that way? Maybe? Okay? Can you snap the football?

909
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: This is unders asking right, and snapped the football long snap?

910
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: What do you need a long snapper? You always need

911
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: a backup long snapper. I guess you always need a

912
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: backup long snapper. Absolutely. The more you can do is

913
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: have you ever long snap before? I feel like I

914
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: try they even ask that question? Why they even asked

915
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: that question? I played center for again, said I wasn't

916
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: very good at it. Surprised, I'm shocked, but I was

917
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: a great communicator. That's why they tried to put the

918
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: guy that usually played center for Like, let's just go

919
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: back to me playing garden. Yeah, back to TCU. We

920
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: go um our producer Matt who you may recognize his

921
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: voice from the email back segment and this podcast, The

922
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: Disembodied Matt disembodied voice, Matt Um, he will be very

923
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: happy with this because we go back to TCU, which

924
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: he isn't alm. He went, he is an alumni of

925
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: he's not an almumtime. Yeah, it's been a long weekend,

926
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: gay Yeah, all right, okay, um, anyway, it's enough to

927
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: talk about Matt. Let's talk about Travan Howard. Yes, inside linebacker,

928
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: tackle machine. We'll compete for a job. Yes, Um, I

929
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: don't see him being the starter. Okay, yeah, I don't

930
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: see that right away, but I could be wrong. But

931
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: tackle but tackle machine at TCU. Well, I don't want

932
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: to make like a joke and make a lot of it,

933
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: but like he gives probably a lot of opportunities at

934
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: TCU because of the way they played defense. And wow,

935
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: you could have just left it a tackle machine. Yeah, yeah,

936
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: you didn't have to peel the onion. Now we're all

937
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: crying because you didn't have to peel the onion. But

938
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You've got a guy who

939
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: was already on this team in U, Bryce Hager, who

940
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: went to Baylor, and I think you could maybe say

941
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: some similar things. See I would have done, yes, tackling machine. Yes,

942
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: that's what they did. And I think that when Bryce

943
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: Hager has had his opportunities, he's actually done a pretty

944
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: good job. I thought he played pretty well against San

945
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Francisco at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when he said

946
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: when he's had two there and they attacked him too,

947
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: they went after right, and I think it was the

948
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: Arizona game. Yeah, yeah, Ogletree went down with the with

949
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: the elbow injury, and then he came in and I

950
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: thought he played pretty well there too. So again, this

951
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: is a pick where when you're in, when you were

952
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, you know you're going to be

953
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: fighting for a roster spot at the very least. So

954
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: that means he's gonna have to come in and he's

955
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: going to have to play special teams. Well, I wouldn't

956
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: even ask him. Can he cover a kick? You better? Yeah,

957
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: you better make absolutely that that's something that you're going

958
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: to have to Yes, all right, last, but not least,

959
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: defensive lineman Justin Lawler out of SMU, the twenty sixth

960
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: choice of the seventh round, two hundred and fourth overall.

961
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: What did I say to you when I was watching

962
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: them on video? Remember you don't remember, I don't, And

963
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: Marwin Jr. You did? Yes, you literally just said that

964
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: to me, maybe not even an hour ago. Yes, and

965
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: I already forgot. I mean, like watching a clone the

966
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: way they take on blocks, the way they disengage from blocks,

967
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: the way it seems like it's it's it's a matter

968
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: of pride if you try to run to his side,

969
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he is really going to fight

970
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: you all the way out to the sideline to turn

971
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: that running back back. And then when it's an obvious

972
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: passing sid you're you can tell this guy loves to

973
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: pass rush. And he's got a bevy of moves. Yeah,

974
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: not just a one trick pony. I'm coming off the

975
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: edge dipping rep. But I hope I get there. Yeah,

976
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: my countermove maybe might be a SMI. This guy's got

977
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: a thousand moves, Yeah, and he will throw everything but

978
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: one of them at you. I's trying to get to

979
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: the path. Yeah, I like it. I like to see

980
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: this guy go. So this is somebody that I think

981
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: is going to again, I'm going to have to come

982
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: in compete either at that they call a defensive lineman,

983
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: but as you're saying, more or less a Connor Barwin

984
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: style guy. So who knows exactly where he's going to

985
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: line up. But what he said to the media is

986
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: that what they did at SMU is pretty similar to

987
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: what the Rams do defensively, and so he said, I

988
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: think that's why we're such a good fit for each other.

989
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: I was a hand in the ground, four down guy,

990
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback and just making plays. They'd let me

991
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: run free, run loose, similar to what the Rams do

992
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: with their ends, and we look forward to having the

993
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: same success in LA. So if you look at what

994
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: the Rams do in nickel situations, that's when they're having

995
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: those guys put four four guys hand in the ground

996
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: and then they're going well, I just almost laugh when

997
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: he said they they allow guys to run free in

998
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: this defense. You got to earn that man. Oh well, yeah,

999
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: only certain guys get to run free, and their numbers

1000
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: start with nine and end and nine. Yeah, certain guys

1001
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: get to do what they want and run free. Maybe

1002
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: ninety three this year. I hope you can become that guy. Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: I hope you can ascend to that role. But you're

1004
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna have a specific role in this defense if you

1005
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah, and at some point maybe you get

1006
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: the show what you can do on a max level,

1007
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, absolutely all right. So you have a

1008
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: piece of paper in your hand that I do want

1009
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: to get to as Well's deleted alluded to this trades.

1010
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm in the trades. My goodness, look

1011
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: at that. Yeah, so there was a flurry of activitims

1012
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: made one, two, three, well, gosh, one two, three, four

1013
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven total already counted. Well,

1014
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: you held it up in front of me. It was

1015
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: awkward thing, Miles is wasting time anywa even trades eleven

1016
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: total trades. But that goes all the way back to

1017
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: the Peters deals. Yes, yes, active, I mean that's no

1018
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: shock for less need. He's been moving around in the

1019
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: drafts since he got here. Yeah, he's not afraid to

1020
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: move up, move down? What have you amass more picks?

1021
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: I think he's doing the exact right thing to ask.

1022
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: More picks means more bodies, Yes, yes, and that's exactly

1023
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: what the way. How many Draft Day pick the Raft Day?

1024
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: That goodness, great Draft Day? In total, over the last

1025
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: two days, they didn't make any fun. First day there

1026
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: was six Draft day trades. Six draft days. Yes, who

1027
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: knew that was so hard to say Draft day trades? Gosh, wow,

1028
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: there were six. So anyway, what Steve was saying in

1029
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: the in the press conference, after everything was done today

1030
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: was that basically they had a lot of players that

1031
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: they felt like could be quality guys to pick up

1032
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: up in the late mid to late rounds, basically Day

1033
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: three guys. And so that's why you saw them make

1034
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: so many moves. I mean, they came into this thing

1035
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: on Thursday with only one of their original picks left,

1036
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: and that was at number eighty seven. They ended up

1037
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: trading that back, got to eighty nine, and then got

1038
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: another pick from Oakland, and then they kept going and going,

1039
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: and when they moved around they would and you saw

1040
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: them like accumulate so many six round picks that eventually

1041
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we got to Boom. We can use

1042
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: these two move up and get obo with at number

1043
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: one sixties. So I think it was just a really

1044
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: well executed strategy. Yeah, it was a great draft I thought.

1045
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to put a letter grade on it,

1046
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: but I mean when you either when you look at

1047
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the division, at least Arizona got better,

1048
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: especially with Rosen at quarterback. At some point that's going

1049
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: to be the guy there. You know this, sooner than later,

1050
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: John Lynch is going to be a formidable opponent. Yeah,

1051
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: in this division. Yeah, he is building. He wants to

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: be where you're where the Rams are right now. So

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. And Seattle I think got better.

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people went after them

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00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: for that, for the running back they picked in the

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Speaker 1: first round, Penny, Oh yeah, yeah, if he stays healthy. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think that's all they've been missing, is that sort

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Speaker 1: of running back. Bring back the running game to that

1059
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Speaker 1: offense and help Russell Wilson. So you don't think they've

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00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: been missing like pass protection. I think you can take

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00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: some pressure off Russell Wilson at least by running the football, okay, fair, yes, absolutely,

1062
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: and take pressure off your offensive line because they couldn't

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00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: run it. You're right in the sense that, look, they

1064
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: really couldn't do anything running the ball right out Russell.

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Speaker 1: So I can just pressure Wilson team all day, right right.

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00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: You can't run to get me to back off. And

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Speaker 1: that's the way the Rams beat the Jesus Sad of

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00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in Seattle forty five to seven. Exactly. The

1069
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: game was two. I don't know, they only seven point um,

1070
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Speaker 1: But you brought up the rest of the NFC West.

1071
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: I thought that Rosen pick was really interesting for the Cardinals.

1072
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you know anything about the Cardinals, they

1073
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: clearly needed to get a quarterback probably in this draft,

1074
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Speaker 1: and it was interesting to see who they would be

1075
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: able to move up with and who they would move

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00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: up four. So then going and getting Rosen at number ten, well,

1077
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: everybody else apparently made nine mistakes. It's funny, man, I mean,

1078
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Speaker 1: all the talk about Rosen why he's not going to

1079
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: be drafted, and it all came down to what came

1080
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: out of his mouth right and apparently and with with

1081
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: within twenty four hours of being drafted, he's already having

1082
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: to backtrack on a comment he made on draft day

1083
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: when people when you say, I mean like, it was

1084
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: interesting just watching that and you could tell he was,

1085
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: like he was very frustrated that he was going further

1086
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: and further down. I love the fire. I love the

1087
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: passion too. I do, UM, but you might want to

1088
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: dial it down in the press conference maybe a little

1089
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: bit a little bit. Maybe a little little bit, a

1090
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: little bit. That's probably true. Um. Otherwise, I think what,

1091
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: let me say it this way, did you think of

1092
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: the first couple of picks in that round? What do

1093
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: you think of where the quarterbacks ended up in general, well,

1094
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't see Mayfield going number one. I

1095
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: didn't really. I mean that that that set the draft off.

1096
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, this is gonna be a wild draft

1097
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: after that. So I didn't see that coming. I kind

1098
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: of figured that maybe Josh Allen would be off the

1099
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: board next, but it turned out to be Sam Darnold.

1100
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: I think that's the right spot for him in New York. Um.

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00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: The only thing I worry about is are you going

1102
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: to start him week one? Are you going to start

1103
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: him early? Who? Sam Darnold? I don't think is he

1104
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: going to be the guy early? I think that because

1105
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: they have a guy like Josh McCown, I hope they

1106
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: go with him first. They can take the pressure of

1107
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: But they've got a lot of quarterbacks in that room

1108
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: right now, between Darnald bridge Coown, Bridgewater and Petty and Hackenburg,

1109
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: that's too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, one of

1110
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: them's been I guess they're starting to dangle him. What's

1111
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: the other one, yeah, Petty, Yeah, Yeah, they're trying to

1112
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: find suitors for him right now. Yeah. I did see

1113
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: that on Twitter as well. But for the Browns, do

1114
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: you like what they did number one, going with Mayfield

1115
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: and then getting Denzel warded four good players, good players. Um,

1116
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: their roster is a whole lot better than it was

1117
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: let's say two years ago. Well, let's just say it's

1118
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: a whole lot better than two years ago. Look, they're

1119
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: on one and thirty one the last two years. And

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Speaker 1: we talked about this, if it's a fair fight, if

1121
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: no politics involved in this competition. Yeah, are you telling

1122
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: me Baker Mayfield's gonna beat out Tyrod Taylor? I don't

1123
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: know that's too much starting experience coming the other director.

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00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: You think so for Tyrod? I wouldn't be surprised if

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00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is your opening day starter. I would be

1126
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: shocked if he finishes the year that way. Okay, that's fair.

1127
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at some point is going to be the

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Speaker 1: guy in Cleveland. That's why he was drafted. Yes, absolutely,

1129
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Speaker 1: And I just I think it's gonna be a good

1130
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: fit for Mayfield in Cleveland, just because he's got that

1131
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: kind of attitude that we'll see attitude we'll see, we'll see.

1132
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's tough for six quarterbacks that

1133
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: are six feet one and under. Yeah, you know, just

1134
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: in terms of seeing over the offensive lineman in the

1135
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: pocket and everything. So if you can turn the Cleveland

1136
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: Browns around, you are a legend. You are an absolute legend.

1137
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: Are a legend? All right? So any parting thoughts before

1138
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: we get out of here on this draft class. Now

1139
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: for the Las, how the draft I guess transpired, how

1140
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: it shook out or shook itself out. I still think

1141
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: Berkeley was the best player in the draft. Yeah, yeah,

1142
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: I love what New York did by taking him because

1143
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: it takes the pressure off Eli Manny. Yeah. I love

1144
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: what New England did at the end of the end

1145
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: of the first round with Sony Michelle. Yeah. Another thing,

1146
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: you're taking the pressure off Tom Brady. So I know

1147
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: running backs have been devalued, but man, are they important.

1148
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: They are? They are important, especially to these elite quarterbacks.

1149
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: So um, but this draft for the Rams, I thought

1150
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: they hit all the notes. Yeah, you need a depth

1151
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: on the old line. That's what you targeted with first

1152
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: two picks. I think those two guys are going to

1153
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: be great and fantastic. Uh. Four outside backers, four outside

1154
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: edge guys. Uh. The job is wide open. So come September,

1155
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: you're only gonna play with two. Yeah, I can't wait

1156
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: to find out who that's gonna be. Um. Yeah, but

1157
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: the excitement, you know, was all about free agency and trades,

1158
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: getting Sue here, getting to leave, getting Peters. So I

1159
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: mean the draft was about depth and you accomplish that.

1160
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: So i'd say well done by Sean mcvah and less

1161
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: need absolutely all right, guys, Well that'll do it for

1162
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: us Between the Horns. No parting shock okay, no notebook,

1163
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: no note boom. I'm about a fist boom. Are you

1164
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: just gonna make fun of me? Or can I close

1165
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 1: the show? You can close it? Thank you this month?

1166
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: All right? There you go, There we go. He never

1167
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: lets me close the stupid show. I just can't do it.

1168
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to do it now. Is that

1169
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: all right? I'm already in his head. I know you

1170
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: really are in my head. Thanks so much for tuning

1171
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: into this of Between the Horns. I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you know that we've got our latest edition

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Speaker 1: of Behind the Grind that is on Facebook watch DeMarco.

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1175
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1176
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Speaker 1: so far with that show and we're absolutely going to

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Speaker 1: keep that up. Next episode, we'll cover the draft. This

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Speaker 1: last one started with the first episode. Oh my goodness,

1180
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: it started with the beginning of the off season program.

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: It's DeMarco's fault and messing this up. It's real in

1182
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: my head. He's also guys, make sure that you check

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Speaker 1: out all of our draft coverage on the RAMS dot

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