1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: This is bucks first thoughts, the news you need to 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: get for your day in forty five minutes. Make sure 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: you subscribe on the iHeart app, befoor, wherever you get 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: your podcasts. I'm a big proponent of having free and 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: fair debate. I'm a big advocate of discussion of complicated, 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: important topics. And you'll notice that when it comes to 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: so much of COVID, we haven't been able to do that. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: We've been told to shut up and do what we're told. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: That has been the theme of the last year. People 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: who have taken unprecedented power into their hands, and people 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: who claim the mantle of the science have been telling 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: you to just shut up, don't ask any questions. We're 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: not having this discussion. You do it because we say so. 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: We do it because otherwise everyone's going to die. And 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: they were wrong many times, and their policies didn't work, 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: and the things that they said would happen did not, 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: and things they said didn't happen did And at every 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: stage it just was the same game. Play upon people's 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: fears and use the power of the state to force 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: them to comply. Well, now, as we see with where 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: we are with this, Johnson and Johnson vaccine situation. We 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: have a lot of undoing of this brainwashing to do, 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: and we'll get into all of that, and I mean 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: just about whether we're allowed to have certain topics discussed. 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even taking a position on all this stuff. 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not even telling you one way or another. I'm 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: just saying we should have had much more debate about 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: everything going on with COVID. And a big problem with 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: all this has been social media censorship. As you know, 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the left has been dominating these social media sites for 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: well all time, but now they've decided to completely crack 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: down on conservative speech, and Twitter and Facebook act like 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the editorial pages of the New York Times. They decide 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: what can and cannot be shared, be written, and they'll 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: kick you off. They'll punish you well. One way that 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: you and protect yourself from this is with a virtual 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: private network. 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I know other people who feel like the 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: vaccine is the answer to a prayer, right, that this 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: is God giving us what we need to get past this. 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I know people on all sides of this. One of 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: my fundamental, my fundamental conclusions about everything that we've seen 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: over the last year is that it is deeply unhealthy 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: and incredibly problematic for health decisions to be taken over 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: by public public health bureaucrats, and that there's no discussion 73 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: or debate alout about this. It's do what you're told, 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: shut up, and do what you're told. And when you 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: start to push back on this, there's this mob fauciite 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: consensus mentality of we've already thought all this through for you. 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: You don't have autonomy, you don't have any basis for 78 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: questioning this. You have to just do what we tell 79 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: you to do. And it's not even just a function 80 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: of whether or not you take this risk yourself, it's 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: also whether you're willing whether you'll do what you're supposed 82 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: to do to protect all those around you. And so 83 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: you're morally blackmailed into the Fauciite consensus, as I call it, 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: which is just the These people make decisions, they're not 85 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: accountable to anyone. They don't get fired. They're not There's 86 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: not you know, there's no how many public health experts 87 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: in this pandemic have resigned because they suck at their jobs? 88 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: How many? Right? Fauci somehow After on the one hand, 89 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: he says we had the worst virus response of any 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: country in the world, which isn't even true by the numbers, 91 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: not by a long shot. But Fauci will say that. 92 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: But he essentially stays on in the Biden administration. He's 93 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the immovable bureaucrat. Nothing can get rid of this guy. Huh. 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: He says, he stays forever. He keeps his job forever. 95 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: And that's the mentality that's at the heart of so 96 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: much of what we've seen here, that it doesn't matter 97 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: what really happens. The good, smart people who make these 98 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: decisions for you are infallible even when they're wrong. Now, 99 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I know that's that's incoherent, it doesn't make sense, but 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: that's what we've been forced to accept as a country. 101 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: We've been forced If you didn't agree to mask up, 102 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: if you didn't agree to double mask. Now, if you 103 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: didn't agree to social distance, it didn't agree to shut 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: down your business. If you didn't agree to stop going 105 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: to church. They made you. They made you do these 106 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: things or else. And when they're wrong, there's there's no 107 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: consequence for them because they think they're doing the right thing. Okay. 108 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: This has resulted in a society that is now completely 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: unmoored when it comes to risk management and what is 110 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: acceptable and what is not acceptable. Let me tell you this. 111 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: I have always been in the camp of people of 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: people who strongly believe that you should be able to 113 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: determine whether or not you get the vaccine. It is 114 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: in your hands, it's your choice, and I've advocated for 115 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: people who are at high risk to get the vaccine. 116 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: But I've also said that I believe even for those people, 117 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: it should be their choice. You know, do you want 118 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: to get this to protect you. What they've done, though, 119 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: is by exaggerating, Oh did you know, they've durated asymptomatic spread. 120 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: If you look at the estimates and the numbers they 121 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: were using twelve months ago and what we actually see now, 122 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: they've dramatically exaggerated asymptomatic spread. But that was necessary. You see, 123 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: they had to make it seem like a more urgent threat, 124 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: because if really it's sick people that give this to 125 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: other people, and particularly people that are pre symptomatic in 126 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: a home setting where the government has basically no real 127 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: control over the situation, how are they going to get 128 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: everyone to mask up and lock down and wash their 129 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: hands and stay home. So they exaggerated asymptomatic spread. And 130 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I can show you, I mean, this is in the 131 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: journal Nature. There are publications that have pulled the data, 132 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: pulled the studies together, and they are very clear on this. 133 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: They will show you that, Yeah, it's they thought it 134 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: was forty percent asymptomatic spread. It's probably more like ten 135 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: to twenty percent. Now you can say, well that's still 136 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people, okay, but now it's asymptomatic people 137 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: all had to wear masks because that was a there 138 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: was a a ten percent of the spread coming from them. 139 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Even in situations where I mean, you know, you start 140 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: to break down numbers, you say, is this is this 141 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: a necessary public health measure or is this a panic maneuver. 142 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: I can't even have this discussion though in most places 143 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: I would get kicked off. I love that I'm on 144 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the radio, and I love that I podcast because I 145 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: can say that I can't write these things to you 146 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: right now. I can't actually put this stuff out on 147 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Twitter or Facebook or even online, although I try to 148 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: sneak some in at Bucksexton dot coms. You should always 149 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: go to my website there. And I've got a piece 150 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: on what a bureaucratic, bureaucratic monstrosity the CDC is up 151 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: right now that I wrote. But we haven't had the 152 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: exchange of ideas necessary to come to the truth on 153 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: this stuff. We've been told what to do. And this 154 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: brings me to and if you try to do what 155 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I do, which is come at these from different angles 156 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: and have a real exchange rooted in the facts, rooted 157 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: in reality, and make the case that these are risk 158 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: management decisions. Health policy is not the science, and people 159 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: who say that are morons, because it's okay, what level 160 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: of risk is acceptable? What level of risk? That's why 161 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Fouci won't give you an answer now, by the way, 162 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: about when we go back to normal. He could say 163 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: when we're at this number, but then they'd have to 164 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: stick to that and people would say, why is it 165 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: that number? I mean, we could probably handle it. You're 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: still accepting there'll be some spread, there'll be some death 167 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: of COVID, but we're going to go back to total normalcy, right, 168 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: So why does Fauci get to decide that. Ah, you're 169 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: starting to see this is the problem. This is the 170 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: the shaky foundation of their argument. And then you have 171 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: this recent Johnson and Johnson situation, and this is getting 172 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, panic click headlines. Oh my gosh, 173 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. By the numbers right now, 174 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: the chance of in the US, the chance of getting 175 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: a blood clot from a Johnson and Johnson vaccine is 176 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: one in a million. One in a million, that's the actual. 177 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: But you've had six cases of blood clots that they 178 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: think are attributable to the vaccine. You've had six million vaccinations, 179 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: and so now the CDC is saying, well, we should 180 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: consider a pause. Notice they keep doing this pause your life, 181 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: pause the vaccine life goes on, folks. I mean the 182 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: notion that we're just oh, we're just gonna hit the 183 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: pause button. There's a lot of stuff that comes with that, 184 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: and people are freaking out about this. Young people that 185 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I know who are at very low risk from COVID 186 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: and very low risk from the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. 187 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: There's no I know some of you are saying, Buck, 188 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: how do we even know what the long term effects 189 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: are of this? The answer is, you're right, we don't know. 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: You know that. That's a very simple truth that I 191 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: think we should all be comfortable. We don't really know. 192 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: There has been no long term testing on these vaccines. 193 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: That's just a fact. And I know right now you 194 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: say this kind of stuff and you might get you 195 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: banned from the internet. You might be called anti vax 196 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm stating an obvious truth. How can they run long 197 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: term testing on vaccines that have been in existence for 198 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: less than a year. Somebody, you know, riddle me that. 199 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: But again, I'm getting the vaccine. I am pro that. 200 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm not anti vaccine. I'm just merely pointing out we 201 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: can't even talk about it. And that results in a 202 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: lack of trust among people who say, why aren't we 203 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: able to have an open discussion about this? Why have 204 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: the social media companies and the news media and American 205 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: corporations all united to effectively become high priests of the 206 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: mask religion. Masking did not save us from this. Masking 207 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: was also tried extensively in the Spanish influenza pandemic of 208 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen, and in case you didn't know, didn't work 209 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: out for that one either. But there were people who 210 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: believed if only we masked more, if only we mask more, 211 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: we'll be safe. And there were big fights about it. 212 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, there were anti mask societies. And now you 213 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: have you know, beta mails from vox dot com who 214 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: are running around writing pieces about how they know the science. No, 215 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: they really don't, they really don't. And there's been such 216 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: a shutdown of debate and discussion that now one in 217 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: a million risk when the fauciite consensus wants it to 218 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: be is too high, do what they say. But people 219 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: see this and they say, well, hold on, if the 220 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: chance of my two year old getting COVID and giving 221 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: COVID to anyone else is you know, one in fifty 222 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: thousand or one in one hundred thousand, and the state 223 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: says that's not acceptable, which is what they have done 224 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: in some states. If that's their approach, is one in 225 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: a million risk of a vaccine something that we need 226 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: to take on. Right, You see how they've completely and 227 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: utterly undermined our notion of a reasonable assessment of risk 228 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: in society for health and for public health purposes, because 229 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: when they want you to shut up, they say, well, 230 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: it's not a hundred percent, so we can't say you're safe. 231 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: When they want you to lock down and mask up, it's, well, 232 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: you know, if it saves just one life. They're playing 233 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: these games with all these numbers all the time. They're 234 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: making value judgments for you. They're making judgments based on 235 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: ratios and numbers for you, not absolute principles. They're saying 236 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: this is acceptable risk for you. But they pretend that 237 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: there's actually an answer to this, and they've got it. 238 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: You see, is one in a million risk for a 239 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: vaccine for you? Is that something that makes you gives 240 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: you pause shouldn't be one in a million risk if 241 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: you look at other things out there, you'd never leave 242 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: your house if you're worried about one in a million risk. 243 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: But they have conditioned the American people the lockdown mentality 244 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: is that if there is any chance, even theoretical chance 245 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: of an outcome, and we want to use this to 246 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: take away your freedom and liberty, that's enough. That's what 247 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: they've done. So you see they've reset the neurons in 248 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: millions and millions of people's brains. Here. You know, they've 249 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: changed our thinking about this, They've abused it and manipulated 250 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: it for their own purposes, and now we're seeing what 251 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: the results are when there are some problems. It was 252 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: inevitable that there were going to be some problems with 253 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: these vaccines. All vaccines have some level of risk, but 254 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: in order to control people's actions and control populations, they 255 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: play games with the actual ratio, the actual numbers, and 256 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: pretend to have all the answers when they don't. Now 257 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: they've got a situation of tremendous public distrust. And I 258 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of you disagree with me, and I'm 259 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: pro vaccination on this point, not for all vaccines, but 260 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: for this vaccine. Yeah, I think this makes sense for 261 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: people that said, I understand that it should be a choice, 262 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: and I understand that they've pretended to have more certainty 263 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: than they do, and they've taken away your ability to 264 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: make your own choices here under the premise that they 265 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: are like the public health gods and cannot be questioned. 266 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: There are different tools that we can use for different 267 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: periods of when things are outbreaking out. When there is 268 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: an outbreak, for example, we know that if vaccines are 269 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: going arms today, we will not see an effect of 270 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: those vaccines, depending on the vaccine, for somewhere between two 271 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to six weeks. So when you have an acute situation, 272 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: extraordinary number of cases like we have in Michigan, the 273 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: answer is not necessarily to give vaccine. In fact, we 274 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: know that the vaccine will have a delay response. The 275 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: answer to that is to really close things down, to 276 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: go back to our basics, to go back to where 277 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: we were last spring, last summer, and to shut things down, 278 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: to flatten the curve, to decrease contact with one another, 279 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: to test to the extent that we have available to 280 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: contact trace. Sometimes you can't even do it at the 281 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: capacity that you need. But really what we need to 282 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: do in those situations is shut things down. I think 283 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: if we try to vaccinate our way out of what 284 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: is happening in Michigan, we would be disappointed that it 285 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: took so long for the vaccine to work to actually 286 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: have the impact. I mean, I wonder is the CDC 287 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: director is it just like she's a robot, this director Wilensky. 288 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Does she not actually think she just has a bunch 289 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: of data, a bunch of talking points that she repeats 290 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: over and over. We're gonna shut We're gonna do a 291 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: two week straight up shutdown, not even a reduction in 292 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: indoor dining whatever. We're gonna actually shut down in Michigan 293 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: for two weeks. Does anyone think that that's going to 294 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: solve the problem. You're gonna shut down for two weeks, 295 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: and then what happens when you start to reopen again. 296 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: We've gone through this before, we keep doing this. They 297 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: don't understand, They don't seem to get it. They squeeze 298 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: the balloon, the air goes to one part of it, 299 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: and then they squeeze the other part, and then they go, wait, 300 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: wait a second, the air still moving around inside the balloon. 301 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: That this was all about hospital capacity from that by 302 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: their own words at the beginning. And now it's like 303 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: they act like it's like a cure. We're just gonna 304 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: stop seeing. We're gonna stop living and stop seeing each other. 305 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: That'll stop the disease. I mean, it will work a 306 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: little bit for the time you do it, but then 307 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: you reopen and I know that they say, oh, well, buck, 308 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have vaccines, and that's the thing. We're 309 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: getting these vaccines two to six weeks. You think they're 310 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a full on lockdown for two to six weeks. 311 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: Are they gonna have everyone gets hectored and nagged lockdown? 312 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: But there's still people going as stores, seeing each other 313 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: in private homes. You know, it's never We've never done 314 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: an actual lockdown, even in our first two weeks of this. 315 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: And she says the thing about test and trace. I mean, 316 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: I just have to ask, are these people morons? Michigan 317 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: has seen a two hundred percent rise in coronavirus cases 318 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: since last month. Okay, cases are up two x. I'm sorry, yeah, 319 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: two x, from two thousand a day to six thousand 320 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: a day. Do you think the state of Michigan has 321 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: the resources to test and trace six thousand cases a day? 322 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: How would that even look? Do you think that that 323 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: would even stop it? Let's say that they could even 324 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: try to test and trace everywhere. You're still finding out 325 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: about people who have already been exposed to the virus. 326 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: But this is just they're like, you know, chickens with 327 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: their heads cut off in the public health establishment. They're 328 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: just running around, you know, making noise. It doesn't make 329 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: any sense. What are they saying? Test and trace? We're 330 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: back to that that you heard her, that's the CDC 331 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: chief And she goes, well, you know, maybe you know 332 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: that might not work. Yeah, to work nothing, zero, not 333 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: at all. But why is she saying it? Because it's 334 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: the best she's got. That's the best she's got, because 335 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: you know what, they really don't want people to think about, 336 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: why is Michigan having so many cases? They can talk 337 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: about variants as much as they want, but we have 338 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: numbers on that too. The UK variant B one one seven, 339 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: they say, accounts for a lot of new cases in 340 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: that state, maybe as high as seventy percent of cases 341 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: in Michigan. And according to the CDC, I'm sorry, no, 342 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: they don't know how many cases in Michigan. Michigan has 343 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: two thousand, two hundred and sixty two confirmed cases. So 344 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: forget about that seventy percent number. Two thousand, two hundred 345 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: sixty sixty two confirmed cases, But Florida has three thousand, 346 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: five hundred and ten So why why is Michigan completely 347 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: out of control when when Florida's actually had more confirmed 348 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: cases of this variant and Florida's open Michigan is still 349 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: doing all the things. Wash your hands, social distance, double mask. 350 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I double mask because I'm a fauciite and I believe this. 351 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: This little tyrid smurf goes on TV. You know, just 352 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: a little longer, just a little longer, hold a little more, 353 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little more time, you don't know, you know, 354 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: you could get a plateau, and it could be a 355 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: diminution of the ascendancy of the next phase of the 356 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: parabolic upsurge of the down surge. I mean, this guy 357 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: is so pathetic at this point. Just listen to him. 358 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: I call him doctor Thesaurus because every time he goes 359 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: on TV, he's using all these words that he doesn't 360 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: have to use to sound more authoritative and smart than 361 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: he is. Because the guy's grasping, now, what is he 362 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: even saying? And we got CDC Wilenski telling us, yeah, 363 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: shut down Michigan for two weeks. Do you think you 364 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: think that's gonna Fly's gonna say, yeah, let's just shut 365 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: it down for two weeks. Oh wait, No, maybe it'll 366 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: be four weeks, maybe it'll be six weeks. The public 367 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: health establishment in the United States bureaucracy federal and state 368 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: level has been a enormous failure during this pandemic. Understand 369 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: that an enormous failure, and they still want to control you, 370 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: and they want to act like they know what they're doing. 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Things that 406 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: are supported by both law enforcement and community members. Things 407 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: that we know that would reduce the chance of a 408 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: routine traffic stop escalating into a loss of life. The 409 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: governor of Minnesota, they're doing what we know so many 410 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: politicians are going to do, which is to claim to 411 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: do something in the aftermath of the shooting of Dante Right. 412 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: Killing of Dante Right in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota over the weekend, 413 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: and as we know, there's already lots of riots, more 414 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: riots expected riots and protests are going to spread to 415 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: other cities across the country. Are we really supposed to 416 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: accept this as some kind of new normal. We're supposed 417 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: to believe that this is the way things should happen. 418 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, there are there are other police involved incidents 419 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: that have lethal force that are it's completely unjustified. But 420 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: if the victim of it is not black or hispanic, 421 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: but particularly not not black, there's an expectation that there 422 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: will not be riots, that there will not be any 423 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: civil disorder, and that it will just go through the 424 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: process and we'll see what happens and hopefully we get justice. 425 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: And but anytime there's a there's this narrative as we 426 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: see of law enforcement and a lethal force incident with 427 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: a young black male, there is the heightened prospect immediately 428 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: of riots and looting. This is disgraceful. This is disgraceful. 429 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: And the Democrats are playing a double game here because 430 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: they'll say that they don't want this, but as we know, 431 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: in so many ways, they actually encourage these feelings because 432 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: they go along with the false narrative. They go along 433 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: with the lie that BLM is built upon, which is 434 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: that cops are routinely, systematically and without consequence, murdering unarmed 435 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: black men. The Dante Right shooting, based on the video 436 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: we've seen, was a was what would be called in 437 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: police parlance, a bad shoot. It may in fact be 438 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: a involuntary manslaughter case. It could actually be criminally charged. 439 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: It looks very bad. It looks like a tragic accident. 440 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: Accidents do happen. Anybody who's around firearms knows, you know. 441 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: They used to tell us stories when I was in 442 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: the CIA about people that were really squared away, and 443 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: you know, even former military and people that were you know, 444 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: elite special operations. And sometimes somebody has an a d 445 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, an accidental discharge. It happens. I'm not in 446 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: any way justifying or minimizing. I'm just saying that is 447 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: the that is the obvious fact of what we see 448 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: in that video. I mean, clearly, this veteran of the 449 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: force of over twenty years, somebody been a police officer 450 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: for a long time. As woman who pulled what she 451 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: thought was her taser made a terrible mistake. This has 452 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: happened before as well. This is something where in the 453 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: heat of the moment, muscle memory comes into play and 454 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: you can make a terrible mistake. There's a reason why 455 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: anybody who spent any time training around farms will will 456 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: say that, you know, trigger discipline is so important, knowing 457 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: your target, knowing what you're doing, making the affirmative decision 458 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: to shoot ads are it's it's it's life and death. 459 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: And that's why firearms safety is so important and proper training. 460 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: And these people who are suggesting, as Governor Waltz was 461 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: here in Minnesota, that if only we had a different policy, 462 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: this wouldn't have happened. Now unless you want disarmed cops, 463 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: and good luck getting cops to police high crime neighborhoods 464 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: without any lethal force option available to them, unless you're 465 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: going to disarm your cops and timely, which would mean 466 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: just allowing criminals to run rampant and really destroying the country. 467 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: I think you're going to have the possibility of something 468 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: like this happening. We're not going to be able to 469 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: turn every every patrol officer. We're not gonna be able 470 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: to turn every you know, every state trooper into a 471 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: Delta force operator who you know, with his eyes closed, 472 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: can hit a target at two hundred yards in his weekend, 473 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, after running four miles at you know that's 474 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: not going to happen. Okay, So we could stop with 475 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the oil. If only there was a different training. No, 476 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: it was. This was a terrible accident that happens to 477 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: come at an awful time, given the situation of Minnesota 478 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: and the Chauvin trial and everything happening around it. So 479 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: we know this is a match into a tinderbox. And 480 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: already there's more rioting and looting that has happened. President 481 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and looked the Democrats. Their fingerprints are all 482 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: over the BLM riots of last summer. They were they 483 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: were supportive of the They justify this, They do not 484 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: get They always do the the halfhearted kind of you know, condemnation, 485 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: the wishy washy condemnation of violence. But I mean, I 486 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: understand why everyone's so upset and we need to protest. 487 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: Me Ney to get out there and get angry about 488 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: this because fundamentally, the cops are racist and this is 489 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: a racial justice issue. That's the way they do it 490 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, here's Joe Biden saying that 491 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: he wants peace and calm play thirteen. There is absolutely 492 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: no justification none for looting, no justification for violence. Peaceful 493 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: protests understandable. And the fact is that you know, we 494 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: do know that the anger, pain and trauma to exist 495 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: in the black community in that environment is real. It's serious, 496 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: and it's consequential, but it doesn't will not justify violence 497 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: and or mooting. And so the question how we in 498 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: an orderly way make clear that you get down to 499 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: a full blown investigation to determin what facts are happened. 500 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: It's just astonishing, quite honestly, that the President of United 501 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: States is even in a position where he's having to 502 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: weigh in on this, and any president would given the realities. 503 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, think about this. I mean, this 504 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: is a an incident. There are there are literally millions 505 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: of law enforcement stops and arrests of Americans every millions. 506 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: You might have one incident like this a year or 507 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: even every few years, meaning the specifics of going for 508 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: a taser and actually going for your firearm instead. It 509 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: has happened. There have been other situations of law enforcement 510 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: with an AD with an accidental discharge, and it can 511 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: be lethal. And so now we're what is the lesson 512 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: that we're supposed to take from this? I mean, that's 513 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: what I want to know. What are what are we 514 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: supposed to believe here that after twenty some odd years 515 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: on the police force, this this cop decided what what 516 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: did she do other than make a terrible mistake? You know? 517 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: What what did she do that was that was evil? 518 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: Do do we think that she wanted to throw her 519 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: because her life is gone now too in a sense, 520 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, her life will never be the same. She 521 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: may end up going to prison, She's definitely going to 522 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: lose her job, and and quite honestly, she should right 523 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: and she might have to face a manslaughter charge here 524 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: the same way that you know, if you were a 525 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: distracted driver and you swerved off the road and you 526 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: you mowed some poor innocent bystander down, you know you're 527 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: gonna probably serve some prison time for that. You can't 528 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: do that right, you're responsible for that. And this is 529 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: a situation that, in terms of the moral culpability, gets 530 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: pretty close to it. Now, there's another piece of this 531 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: which then goes to that it'll be left out of 532 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: so many the discussions that it would be it would 533 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: be helpful to try to convince people in general across 534 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: the country do not resist arrest because the moment there 535 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: is resisting, and there's clearly resisting of arrest in this 536 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: bit of the guy basically makes a run back to 537 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: his car, and this escalates a situation. And when you 538 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: have forced escalation happening and pulses are racing, and and 539 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, you've got people's adrenaline pumping. When that's going on, 540 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: there's the there's a heightened risk of something like this happening. 541 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: That's not to say that what happened is you know 542 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: the content that what happened is you put the culpability 543 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: on the individual who is killed. Here. Clearly that's not 544 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: fair and that's not true. But if we're really going 545 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: to analyze the situation, it would be helpful to have 546 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: a campaign of please everyone, do not resist arrest from 547 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: police police officers. Fight it in court, take it, you know, 548 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: take it in court. Take your take it in the 549 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: court of public opinion as well as in the court 550 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: of law. You know, there's there's always time to fight 551 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: this stuff back at the station house, there's always time 552 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: to to deal with this. But I mean, unless you 553 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: really think that you've got a cop who's actually trying 554 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: to kill you or harm you on purpose. And I 555 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: mean i've that does happen, but it's very rare. You know, 556 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: you've got to allow law enforcement to do their jobs. 557 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: And I just feel like we're now gonna we're having 558 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: the cycle of the conversation again and the cycle of 559 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: destruction that comes from this, and there's a lot of 560 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of dishonesting around it. You know, when the 561 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota governor says we need to get more training or 562 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: more procedures, this is this is a muscle memory issue. 563 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: This is she she just you know, she meant to 564 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: push on one door and she pushed on another door. 565 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, she made a mistake and she's going to 566 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: pay a price for it. She should get due process 567 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: in this. But as we know that itself now has 568 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: become a problem. When people are angry and when the 569 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: narrative lines up in this way of a black victim 570 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: and law enforcement lethal force incidents, all of a sudden, 571 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: the rules come into question themselves, the rules, the procedures, 572 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: the protections and individuals have under our legal system. And 573 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: we're already seeing that all employees working for the City 574 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: of Brooklyn Center are entitled to due process with respect 575 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: to discipline. This employee will receive due process. And that's 576 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: really all that I can say today. Then do you 577 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: support the determination of an officer of life this who 578 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: has made the type of mistake that has cost a 579 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: president of yours life? Do you support determination of this 580 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: type of officer? And what message are we senter you're 581 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: a Brooklyn Center to the rest of the world about 582 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: the evaluation of black life of this type of an officer. 583 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: You know, I understand and appreciate the comment that you 584 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: made and why you said it, But if I were 585 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: to answer that question, I would be be contradicting when 586 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: I said a moment ago, which is to say that 587 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: all employees are are entitled to the due process. That 588 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: city manager was fired for saying that. That's right. He's 589 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: been He's been fired. The city manager of Brooklyn Center, 590 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Minnesota terminated from his job for saying that there is 591 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: a there's an expectation here of due process for all 592 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: city employees. That's Kurt Bogainey, and he's fired for stating 593 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: a fact. This is the country we live in. Now 594 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: you understand this. You can be fired. You can suffer 595 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: consequences for speaking the plain truth about something for which 596 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: there can be no debate about whether what you said 597 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: isn't true. It's just people don't like the truth. And 598 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: then you you suffer the consequences. You say something that 599 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: is true, you say the sky is blue, and the 600 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: mob says, I don't want to hear that. You're fired. 601 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: That's what happened every city employee, I mean, it depends 602 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: on where you are, but they all have some form 603 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: of due process procedure for somebody who does you know 604 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: who has a situation like this on the job, For 605 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: law enforcement, for any public sector employee, there's there's usually 606 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: a union agreement or there's some understanding and there's an investigation. 607 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: Now I understand that we have a video and it 608 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: all seems very clear, but they do have to take statements, 609 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: and there is there is a due process here. And 610 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: for people that are saying, oh it doesn't matter, get 611 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: rid of it. Okay. So when someone's accused of murder, 612 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: do we just skip the trial and just and just 613 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, take him down to the hanging scaffold? Is 614 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: that is that where we're going to go to as 615 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: a society here or do we have trial by jury? 616 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: Do we have presumption of innocence? You know, I'm sorry, 617 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to throw out fundamental judicial procedures, fundamental 618 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: issues of justice in our society through the system. Because 619 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: people are angry, people are angry. Is not enough for 620 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: us to abandon central, central, systematic protections of the individual 621 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: here through the process. Yeah, do I think this woman's 622 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: gonna lose her job? She's definitely gonna lose her job, folks, 623 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: and she should and she might get criminally prosecutor depends 624 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: on the specific statutes in the state of Minnesota. You know, 625 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: I mean, she's not going to go to jail most likely, 626 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: I'd say for a long time, but you know, she 627 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: might get a few years. Again, it varies, And I'm 628 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: not a criminal defense attorney and certainly don't know the 629 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: laws in the state of Minnesota specific to this, but yeah, 630 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: could she end up serving you know, three or four 631 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: or five years in prison for this. Yeah, that sounds 632 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: plausible to me based on what happened, what's happened in 633 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: other cases, and you know just who the whole thing though, 634 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: we now are in a place where you can get 635 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: in trouble for saying what is factually true. I mean, 636 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: this would be like saying if I stood up and said, 637 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: Derek Chauvin deserves the legal presumption of innocence in the 638 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: courtroom through our system, and someone said, you know what, Yeah, 639 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: but I don't like you saying that about Chauvin, So 640 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: you know you're fired. But I'm just stating a fact 641 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: and the truth and something that's been agreed upon in 642 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: our society for a very long time as well. But 643 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: oh no, the whole system, the rules have to be 644 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: thrown out the moment, the moment that they are inconvenient 645 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: to the leftist authoritarians. There can be no protection, there 646 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: can be no process, and they will undermine it. You know, 647 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: they talk so much about sacred institutions under the Trump administration. 648 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: What could be a more sacred institution than trial by 649 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: a jury of your peers, the presumption of innocence due process. Now, 650 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: I know in this case, they're talking about administrative process, 651 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: but that still exists for a reason too. That's also 652 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: there so that people don't suffer unfair consequence, that they 653 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: have a right to make their side of the issue known. 654 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, no matter how awful somebody is, and whether 655 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about a you know, a mass murderer, we 656 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: still understand that they should have the presentation of the 657 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: right too. I mean, a lot of the times I'll 658 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: take a plea bargain, but the presentation of a defense 659 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: and the process still matters. And look, I think it's 660 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: very likely you're going to see a firing. You probably 661 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: she might be fired by the time you even hear this. 662 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: I mean some of you listen to the show on 663 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: a delay or you listen to it on demand on 664 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. So it's very likely that I'll already have happened. 665 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: But you know, she's getting some process right now. Here's 666 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Center mayor who's saying they got to fire 667 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: the officer. You know, we're right now assessing what we're 668 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: going to do, what actions we're going to take next. 669 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: You know, in any of the line of work, if 670 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: you kill someone in any other line of work, you 671 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: are at the very least going to lose your job. 672 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: And so my position has been that, you know, I 673 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: do believe that the officer should be fire. I do 674 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: believe she should lose her job. Yeah, she's gonna lose 675 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: her job, and he is going to lose a lot 676 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: more than that. This woman, this officer, look for obviously 677 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: tremendous sympathy and prayers out to Dante Wright's family and 678 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: to his friends. It's an awful tragedy. This officer, though 679 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: her life is also ruined. She's gonna have to carry 680 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: this the rest of her life. Her career is ruined. 681 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: She is now always going to be remembered for this 682 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: one incident. I think it's very clear that she had 683 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: no intention of shooting this young man and it was 684 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: a terrible accident. And you know, her family has to 685 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: carry this burden out too. I mean, the whole thing 686 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: is an awful tragic and I just wish that as 687 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: a country, we were more geared toward trying to show 688 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: grace and respect to each other as we deal with 689 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: things like this, instead of breaking into stores and stealing 690 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: cell phones and sneakers. But for those who choose to 691 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: go out and as mayor Carter said, to exploit these 692 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: tragedies for destruction or personal gain, you can rest assured 693 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: that the largest police presidents in Minnesota history and coordination 694 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: will be prepared. You will be arrested, you will be charged, 695 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: and there will be consequences for those actions. It's not debatable. 696 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: You're not making the case. You're hurting the case. You're 697 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: undermining the grief, and you hear it from families time 698 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: and time again. Don't you dare step into our space? Well, 699 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: we're trying to enact change to our system. Nisota governor 700 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: actually sounding like he's upset about the rioting and the 701 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: looting that's already gone on. And we'll see if he 702 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: follows through on this. But this is just as I 703 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: always tell you about incentives. Incentives matter so much at 704 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: the border. Do people get to come into the country 705 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: if they show up at the US Mexico border now 706 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: and play the system? Do they get to stay? If 707 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: the answers yes, they're going to keep coming. Now, let's 708 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: look at incentives for looting and riding. Do people who 709 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: break into stores and steal stuff and cause mayhem an 710 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: anarchy and attack cops that are rocks at them? Do 711 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: they get away with it because they enjoy this obviously, 712 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: either like doing this, they feel justified at some level 713 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: in some way, or they use this as a pretext. 714 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: They don't really think it's justice, I'm sure, but they 715 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: just pretend. Do they get away with it? If the 716 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: answers yes, they're going to keep doing it. So we 717 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: need to understand that that is a part of all 718 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: of this. Right whether or not the law enforcement authorities 719 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: and the people in charge here make those who break 720 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: the law in some kind of make believe solidarity with 721 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: the Dante Right family, those people need to be punished 722 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: because they're hurting people that had nothing to do with this. 723 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: Officer Potter had nothing to do with the situation, and 724 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: they don't deserve that. That's unjust as we all know. 725 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: It's very obviously. So while the Minnesota governor is saying 726 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: that you will be charged and we'll see, there's there's 727 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: been more. There's riots. Last night, they had a curfew, 728 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: they've already call at the national Guard. They had more 729 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: more riots, more looting going on. Where you where do 730 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: you think the mainstream media is and all of this 731 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: the corporate media, democrat media, where do you think they are? 732 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: Do you think they're trying to give a full context 733 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: to this and just be professionals in the realm of 734 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: journalism and tell people what the facts are and present 735 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: this honestly. No, of course not. You know, that's not happening. 736 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: This is how they This is how they justify their 737 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: constant left wing activism under the guise of journalism. This 738 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: is an opportunity for them to push the racism storyline, 739 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: even though is there any evidence of racism whatsoever in 740 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: this incident. There's no evidence of races them. There's evidence 741 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: of a terrible a terrible mistake, an accident, and an 742 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: action that occurred that was not intended by the person 743 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: doing the action. That's what we have evidence of. But 744 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: it'll it still falls into this. You know, we're hearing, 745 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: even Biden, you know, the grievances within the black community 746 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: or so real, and we need to hear them and 747 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: everything else. Well, this this is not a a you know, 748 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: this is not a police brutality case. This is not 749 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: a oh my gosh, you know they this officer was 750 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: kneeling on this person and should have gotten them helper. 751 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: This is very different from George Floyd using a taser 752 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: in the circumstance would have been would have been justified. 753 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: And remember they keep pointing out that that Dante Wright 754 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: had air fresheners in his rear window. I had never 755 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: heard that that's illegal before. Apparently it is. It's kind 756 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: of like tinted windows, which, by the way, the officer 757 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: in New Mexico who was executed at close range with 758 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: a rifle by a drug dealer, he pulled a guy 759 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: over because of his tinted windows. This is a lot 760 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: of this. And what they found out about Dante, right, 761 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: is that he had an outstanding warren for his arrest. 762 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: So people who break little laws are more likely to 763 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: break big laws. This is a central the broken windows theory, 764 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: which is how you've had the tremendous drop off in 765 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: crime in so many cities across the country, which by 766 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: the way, ended last year and we had the highest 767 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: murder raiding the United States in twenty years. Thanks BLM movement. 768 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: A lot of good that did for people. But you 769 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: know the activists CNN and an MSNBC, and you know 770 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: other news organization you know Vox dot Com and HuffPo 771 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: in these play who reads a huff Post total garbage 772 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: shows box these places they have wealthy people, were well 773 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: off people sitting in safety and comfort in safe neighborhoods. 774 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: A lot of times not very diverse neighborhoods either, but 775 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: they love to talk about diversity at these places, and 776 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: they cheer on the rioting, the looting, and the so 777 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: called BLM activist class as they make everything worse for everybody, 778 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: which is what I've been saying all along. You know, 779 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: if BLM was going around and they're saying we want 780 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: police accountability and we also were going to make sure 781 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: there are no riots, We're also going to you know, 782 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: if BLM actress are showing up saying if you riot, 783 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: you are destroying our cause, you are helping the you 784 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: are helping the other side, whatever that means, you know, 785 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: then I'd be more willing to have a conversation about this. 786 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: But no, the BLM protests end up being cover for 787 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: the riots that always come later, and then it's always 788 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: mostly peaceful. As we know, thanks everything worse for everybody. 789 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: Police feel like they're undermined. Are so many of our 790 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: valiant law enforcement officers across the country feel like their 791 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: jobs aren't they are made harder, and they don't have 792 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: the political backing. They need to make very difficult decisions 793 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: in troubling situations. But I mean, if you want an 794 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: example of how honestly how disgusting our news media is 795 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: and how it's just a political monolith, they all think 796 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: the same stuff. They all pushed the same narrative. I 797 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: know exactly where there. It's like their brains are all 798 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: wired in a certain way for stories like this, I 799 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: know exactly where they're gonna go. Yesterday, the Brooklyn Center 800 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: Police Chief Gannon had an exchange. I mean, this was chilling. 801 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: He had an exchange with with a bunch of journalists 802 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: at the press conferences with the first major press conference 803 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: the police held on the Dante Right shooting. And here's 804 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: I want you to listen closely because you know the 805 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: audio from the journalist is not great. We'll discuss it, 806 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: but listen in as this is the Brooklyn Center police 807 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: chief being told by journalists that he did not see 808 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: and experienced what he did. Play one final question, what 809 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: was your decision? Order? Protesting in front of the police 810 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: station led to dispersal order and then on the back 811 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: end of that time, a dispersed order sealed Tennis. Just 812 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: so everybody's clear, I was front and center at the 813 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: protest at the at the riot um. We did not 814 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: that there was so I was we were being the 815 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: officers that were putting themselves in harm's away, were being 816 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,959 Speaker 1: pelted with frozen cans a pop. They were being pelted 817 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: with concrete blocks. And yes, we had our helmets on 818 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 1: and we had other protection here. But an officer was injured, 819 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: hit in the head with a brick brick that was 820 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: a head of the county deputy. He was transported to 821 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 1: the hospital. So we had to make decisions. We had 822 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: to disperse the crowd because we can allow our officers 823 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: to be harmed. And I've already answered the question I 824 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: believe about your lighting. I know that's a that's a 825 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: big deal with you, and I understand that, but I 826 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: thought i'd explained that myself. So if that is, I 827 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: told you, it's my decision, and that's why I made 828 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: that decision. You have journalists. You're telling the chief of 829 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 1: police who was there and watching his fellow officers get pelt, 830 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: and there's video of it. I've seen it, Okay, there's 831 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: there's proof beyond any reasonable doubt, and he was there 832 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: with his own eyes anyway, and he was actually present 833 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: for this being hit with cinder blocks and rocks, and 834 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: they'd like to take cans and freeze things in the cans. 835 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: So it's basically like a really, really easy to throw 836 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: projectile and they're they're hitting officers with it. I mean, 837 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: how many rocks would you allow to gash open your 838 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: head at your job before you would take some kind 839 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: of action to stop it. I'm just wondering, right, But 840 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: notice the journalists don't do that, don't say that there 841 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: was no riot. Are they delusional or they liars or both? 842 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: Those are the only options. There was very obviously a riot. 843 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: But you see, this is where we get to the 844 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: greater truth, beyond the actual truth. And this does have 845 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: a very Soviet feeling, and it does increasingly seem like 846 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: the mentality of some of the more extreme communist movements 847 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: in history is much more ascendant within our own Democrat 848 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: party in the American left than we'd like to believe. 849 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: That it doesn't matter what really happened. It matters what 850 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: you can convince people happened and how you can leverage 851 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: that for the cause. Why do you think they run 852 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: around talking about the insurrection on January sixth? It was 853 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: not an insurrection. There was no violent effort to overtake 854 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: and overthrow the United States government. There was a riot 855 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: where some people became violent against law enforcement officers. BLM 856 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: does that all the time. It was not an insurrection, 857 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: but they used that term, and it's because of the 858 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: power that it gives them to then attack their opponents 859 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: and shut them down and set up fencing and set 860 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: up thousands and thousands of National Guard all over Washington, DC. 861 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: And now here we are there's another moment here. What 862 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: is that? What is the story? Think about this? What 863 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 1: is the story the left wants to tell right now? 864 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 1: What do journalists want people to see in Brooklyn Center? 865 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 1: Racist white cop kills unarmed black man for no reason, 866 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: because that's what cops do in this country, and the 867 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: Republican Party is fine with it, and they cover it up. 868 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: That's the storyline that they're pushing. It's a lie, but 869 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: that's what they want people to think, and so they 870 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: don't want any focus on the riots. Let's forget about 871 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: the riot. Who cares let people riot? That's that's the 872 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: expression of their rage at the at the false narrative 873 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: that's being told here. I mean, does any person really 874 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: want to argue, does any person actually want to expose 875 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,919 Speaker 1: themselves who open public debate about whether officer Potter here 876 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: wanted to kill? I mean you think she she she's 877 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: on she's got a bodycam on. Okay, it's all on videos. 878 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: She's got other officers there, it's broad daylight, she's yelling taser. 879 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't be more clear that this is 880 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: an accident actually, but still racism, still racism. I mean 881 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: where we're getting to the point now where if a 882 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: police officer, let's say, was driving home, drunk, off the 883 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: job even and the police officer hit a bystander on 884 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: the on a street corner and the bystander was wide 885 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: or Asian, you know, oh, that's a drunk driving accident. 886 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: The person to be held accountable. But if if the 887 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: police officer, it's a police officer on his or her 888 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: own time, drive in the car, drunk hits hits a 889 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: person who's a black victim, it's still evidence of racism. Somehow, 890 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: no intend to be racist, but it's evidence of racism. 891 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: You see the comparison, But they run, they run with 892 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: the narrative anyway, and it's so damaging and it's going 893 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: to result in more misery and more destruction and the 894 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: further degradation of community police relations in Minnesota and all 895 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: across the country. And you know what a lot of 896 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: people are going to think when they when they hear 897 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: the media said there's no riots, and they push this 898 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 1: narrative of racism, which is behind all of this, always 899 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: is well, I can't trust the cops. The cops are bad, 900 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: and maybe I should fight back against them when I'm arrested, 901 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: which is a very unwise, very bad idea and leads 902 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: to leads to more unnecessary force escalation situations that don't 903 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: have to happen, and is also going to lead to 904 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: more tragedies. But the media cannot be trusted to speak 905 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: honestly about this at all. They will not. And remember 906 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: this is all happening with the Chauvin trial in the background. 907 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: In fact, in this case, the Chauvin trial just miles 908 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: away a quick a quick drive from Brooklyn Center is 909 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: the Derek Chouvin trial, which is happening under the pretty 910 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: explicit threat of mob violence. If the outcome is not 911 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: what the mob demands, it's a very bad time for 912 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: justice in this country. And we are we are losing 913 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: our faith in these systems and institutions, and the people 914 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: that are pushing the hardest on them are the most 915 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: reckless in their rhetoric and the most damaging, I think, 916 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: in their aims.